Natalee Case Discussion #704 12/11 - 12/18/2007

[Anna]

Hotshots,

I see you are reading.  Do you know if Alex Matthews is in jail in this country?  I read on another forum someone claiming that he is and that he is claiming to be tortured by our government.  That doesn't sound right.  I knew he had visa problems because of known prior convictions but did not think he was in jail.

Since you have met him, I was hoping you would know.

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[NYC_lover]

NYC,

In this country, conversations between attorneys and clients are privileged and can't be used in court against someone.  Of course, if the police were to hear them then they would know, they just can't present that in court sort of like confessions to priests and many medical records are also confidential.

But my conversations are so boring, I don't think anyone would want to listen, haha.

Ok, well in the Netherlands, the conversations become used against someone in the court, of course when that is most important evidence. Here in the NL, the police hear that also and that can get used to someone.

My conversations are also boring, nothing importants. And when I tell to much by the cell phone and discussed this, for example with my father, he want stop directly the conversation by the phone. And I discussed with friends nothing importants, when they want hear, that I talk about boys, and ect. Good luck! And tell people when they have some problem, no evidence is no case. That would be hart for them to hear all the time in my phone calls. Hahahaha good for them!
Still happy for that Government that I am still not learning Law.

[Anna]

I hope tonight's slowness was just a fluke and Monkeys will not give up and will continue to show support for the family especially Beth who has been through so much.  Must continue to keep the faith.  Maybe Mos will shock us and actually prosecute at least one of the suspects for something or other he can dream up.

Hang in there, Monkeys, and keep the faith.  I think the weather has some of us offline tonight.

Goodnight any still reading.

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[Spock]

My theory is that Koen was afraid to go out on the boat,
so Sander went.  Koen got nervous and called Sander's
cell phone and they talked while the boat was on the way
back in to the marina.

interesting theory

Koen was not on the island. However, sander did invite Joran out on the boat that night.

[IBE]

I hope tonight's slowness was just a fluke and Monkeys will not give up and will continue to show support for the family especially Beth who has been through so much.  Must continue to keep the faith.  Maybe Mos will shock us and actually prosecute at least one of the suspects for something or other he can dream up.

Hang in there, Monkeys, and keep the faith.  I think the weather has some of us offline tonight.

Goodnight any still reading.

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Been reading and lurking but had to sign in to say "Ditto" to this post

[IBE]

Hotshots,

I see you are reading.  Do you know if Alex Matthews is in jail in this country?  I read on another forum someone claiming that he is and that he is claiming to be tortured by our government.  That doesn't sound right.  I knew he had visa problems because of known prior convictions but did not think he was in jail.

Since you have met him, I was hoping you would know.

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I had to laugh when Anita complained that Joran's Human Rights were being violated in jail: This was in ref. to him not having a Bible (wonder if she included the lack of the press coverage he wanted as a violation of HR?)

I laughed because I had read, if I remember correctly, the Paulus was the right had man to King (aka Voking I think) who was a head of the KIA when Matthews was beat up et al... I had heard that Paulus was the one who had all all the evidence of wrong doing and it went "poof"... as in covering up and disposing of evidence.

Mr. Matthews rights for human dignity were only restored in the Intl. (am I right?) World Court of Human Rights and Civil Rights. I know I don't have the correct name here but it one of the Courts in Hague.

My question would be to Mr. Matthews how much of a role did Paulus play, helping King that lead and cover up of the brutal things that happened to you.

Maybe King came to the aid of Paulus at his house to block the search of his house as a payback to Paul helping King many years before.

[IBE]

Sorry Anna that I didn't get here sooner... then I could have been the 3rd pea rolling around in the pot or at least 3 peas in a pod.

Anna, I think it was last night or a few says ago you said that Anna might have known where the key to the boat as she as cousins to Koen. Would you please tell me more.. like who is related to whom and how?

Anita could have told Paulus where to find the key when she was in Holland.

Another very good, loyal monkey has posted many times that Anita has high influence from the Hague??

I like it to be posted just what it is.

Also at one time I had thought that Paulus had a brother in what would be like our Congress in Holland and this brother was extremely active in a leading political party then.

I see to remember that Klaas siad I was wrong. Did I dream that or ????

I had a dream the other night that I saw a street marker that was telling me where a missing girl who I have become quite involved was located... the name and numbers were so plain and I couldn't remember them when I woke up, even the shape of teh sign. It had an S in one tho... anyway, maybe God will help me have the dream again and I can remember.

Any travel trade shows coming to SoCA???

All Monkeys, you are so important. Keep up the Good Works, Dedication through all the highs and lows.

Am going to the Lounge and check out the Christmas tree. Glad it's called that here. We call it what it is.. A Christmas Tree and just a pine tree that happened to come along from the Politically Correct forest or tree farm.

[IBE]

Sorry I got so excited about going to see the tree that I didn't run the post throught the spelling checker

Stay warm, safe and healthy.

[IBE]

"through" not "thought". Good night all and good morning to those in read this soon.

[ldstlou]

Morning Klaas, you are up super early!!!

[MumInOhio]

Good Morning! Still catching up! Saw Taco on TV about DP last night and he had to throw in how innocent his client Joran is!

[ldstlou]

Good Morning! Still catching up! Saw Taco on TV about DP last night and he had to throw in how innocent his client Joran is!

Good Morning!!
and to taco and his "innocent client" 

[MumInOhio]

My theory is that Koen was afraid to go out on the boat,
so Sander went.  Koen got nervous and called Sander's
cell phone and they talked while the boat was on the way
back in to the marina.

interesting theory

Koen was not on the island. However, sander did invite Joran out on the boat that night.

Not sure that I agree about that. I just read something, and will have to go back and find it, about Dave saying Koen's alibi was broken. I was reading some excerpts and interviews about Dave's book at the time and it may have been a Fox interview.

[MumInOhio]

Anyone had any unwelcome company? Mine arrived on #700, think around 11 in the morning. Hoping I can persuade them to leave in a little while, but only just found him. Damn...didn't think I was that interesting. Would feel much better if his last name was net!!!!!!!!

[Nut44x4]

Anyone had any unwelcome company? Mine arrived on #700, think around 11 in the morning. Hoping I can persuade them to leave in a little while, but only just found him. Damn...didn't think I was that interesting. Would feel much better if his last name was net!!!!!!!!

Am I on crack?? I do not understand your post...lol. ??

[Silverfox]

I betcha someone is having nightmares these nights...

You know...someone who sweats...

I bet his wife has to keep buckets by the bed just to have a place to drop the dripping wet sponges...

We are onto you Paulus...

Have you had the courage to tell your wife yet about your little rendezvous with Joran in the casino?  You know the one where you sit next to Nat and make passes at her?  You know the video? LOL... You probably told her that it was a Doppleganger, right? Just someone who looks like you, sweats like you, drools like you, slumps like you, wears long sleeved-short sleeve white shirts like you, sits at the same table as your son like you, etc. etc. 

Did you signal Joran that "she's the one?"  huh?  Your selection for the night since your wifey was out of town? heh, heh... LOL, is that a video camera with you there?  Bad boy, Paulus... Bad boy

[wreck]

I betcha someone is having nightmares these nights...

You know...someone who sweats...

I bet his wife has to keep buckets by the bed just to have a place to drop the dripping wet sponges...

We are onto you Paulus...

Have you had the courage to tell your wife yet about your little rendezvous with Joran in the casino?  You know the one where you sit next to Nat and make passes at her?  You know the video? LOL... You probably told her that it was a Doppleganger, right? Just someone who looks like you, sweats like you, drools like you, slumps like you, wears long sleeved-short sleeve white shirts like you, sits at the same table as your son like you, etc. etc. 

Did you signal Joran that "she's the one?"  huh?  Your selection for the night since your wifey was out of town? heh, heh... LOL, is that a video camera with you there?  Bad boy, Paulus... Bad boy

I don't think Paulus sweats anymore. I think he is finally off the hook. He already knew that the Aruban high officials were covering for him -- now he KNOWS the DUTCH are in on the cover up as well. He is home free.

[MumInOhio]

Anyone had any unwelcome company? Mine arrived on #700, think around 11 in the morning. Hoping I can persuade them to leave in a little while, but only just found him. Damn...didn't think I was that interesting. Would feel much better if his last name was net!!!!!!!!

Am I on crack?? I do not understand your post...lol. ??

LOL Nut I thought you were good at riddles. My Techie cuz just told me how to make him go away and he's gone! Does this make it any clearer!

[Buckeye]

Anyone had any unwelcome company? Mine arrived on #700, think around 11 in the morning. Hoping I can persuade them to leave in a little while, but only just found him. Damn...didn't think I was that interesting. Would feel much better if his last name was net!!!!!!!!

Am I on crack?? I do not understand your post...lol. ??

Hacked on  thread 700 (we're now on 704) ??

[wreck]

Anyone had any unwelcome company? Mine arrived on #700, think around 11 in the morning. Hoping I can persuade them to leave in a little while, but only just found him. Damn...didn't think I was that interesting. Would feel much better if his last name was net!!!!!!!!

Am I on crack?? I do not understand your post...lol. ??

LOL Nut I thought you were good at riddles. My Techie cuz just told me how to make him go away and he's gone! Does this make it any clearer!

It doesn't for me! #700 ????