Lively Case Discussion #612 5/2 - 5/4/2007

[klaasend]

I don't have FP on my blog list, what does it stand for?

Front page of SM

[vms]

Could there be somebody with the same name as Andres Meneses who lives in Aruba?  Seems he would need to be more local to be involved.

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Yes, that's what I was trying to ask. We've jumped to the conclusion that the Andres Meneses on the witness list is a plane photograher, right? My brain isn't working this morning from too little sleep.

[Tylergal]

Could there be somebody with the same name as Andres Meneses who lives in Aruba?  Seems he would need to be more local to be involved.

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Anna, the information that KErmit gave us was that he was a photographer and "pilot."  Now in my research he is a "virtual pilot" so for me, that is a stretch, but then I am new-world-nomenclature challenged anyway, so that he is listed as a pilot is confusing, but this kid is a virtual pilot and a photographer.  If one flies a lot, Aruba to Costa Rica is not a stretch.  One if by land, two if by sea, and I in the air will be....ready to ride and spread the alarm to every casino, village and farm.

[blah]

Blah,
Kermit would be a "he" and Miss Piggy his girlfriend.

Don't you ever watch the Muppets?  

 

"her" was a typo for he, i guess I have extra r's floating around herre today

[Lala'sMom]

Does Aruba have something similar to a seafood market or seafood packing plant?  TIA

[Starr]

Could there be somebody with the same name as Andres Meneses who lives in Aruba?  Seems he would need to be more local to be involved.

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Yes, that's what I was trying to ask. We've jumped to the conclusion that the Andres Meneses on the witness list is a plane photograher, right? My brain isn't working this morning from too little sleep.

Google Andres Troya Meneses (Aruba)

I am sure someone already has.
It mentions this name with Oduber and Croes

[Rob]

Could there be somebody with the same name as Andres Meneses who lives in Aruba?  Seems he would need to be more local to be involved.

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Anna- unless it is strictly an 'online relationship' .. but in that case, how did the ALE have basically unlimited access to him?

[IndyDan]

Andres Meneses:

http://sjospotter.hi5.com

It is just speculation that this is the Andres referred to in the legal docs or did I miss something actually connecting him?

Yes, I believe it is him.  Unless it's a coincidence we have 2 people with the same name very interested in photographing planes and flight simulation.  I realize he appears to be too young to actually be a pilot but he could be a student pilot.

Ok, I'm confused. How does the plane photography connect him.
I guess I need to look at the list again...

VMS,

Well, it doesn't.  That's why we are trying to figure out the connection.  For him to be called in seven times to give statements means there has to be a connection.  We just don't know what it is.

I wonder if he had to come from Costa Rica each time to make those statements.  How far of a trip would that be?  I wonder if he had to pay his own way and all of that?  Does he now live in Aruba instead?  Doesn't seem to.  

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Maybe being called in 7 times for questioning has nothing to do with his aerial photography, maybe it's something completely unrelated.  ???

[Rob]

Does Aruba have something similar to a seafood market or seafood packing plant?  TIA

not to my knowledge... just try getting ice in your drink....LOL... I'm just kidding.. they have ice...  

[blah]

Could there be somebody with the same name as Andres Meneses who lives in Aruba?  Seems he would need to be more local to be involved.

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Yes, that's what I was trying to ask. We've jumped to the conclusion that the Andres Meneses on the witness list is a plane photograher, right? My brain isn't working this morning from too little sleep.

Google Andres Troya Meneses (Aruba)

I am sure someone already has.
It mentions this name with Oduber and Croes

could this have been one of the witnesses they kept the identity under wraps - one of the witnesses they tossed in the nuthouse, labeled a crackhead,  or deported or whatever??

[Lala'sMom]

Does Aruba have something similar to a seafood market or seafood packing plant?  TIA

not to my knowledge... just try getting ice in your drink....LOL... I'm just kidding.. they have ice...  

Thanks.

[Tylergal]

Could there be somebody with the same name as Andres Meneses who lives in Aruba?  Seems he would need to be more local to be involved.

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Yes, that's what I was trying to ask. We've jumped to the conclusion that the Andres Meneses on the witness list is a plane photograher, right? My brain isn't working this morning from too little sleep.

Google Andres Troya Meneses (Aruba)

I am sure someone already has.
It mentions this name with Oduber and Croes

Was that in the context of them belonging to a socialist political party, wherein there are names of Arubans as well as members from other countries who belong to an international socialist party.

[Starr]

Yes, in connecting names and places, that came up

[klaasend]

Could there be somebody with the same name as Andres Meneses who lives in Aruba?  Seems he would need to be more local to be involved.

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Yes, that's what I was trying to ask. We've jumped to the conclusion that the Andres Meneses on the witness list is a plane photograher, right? My brain isn't working this morning from too little sleep.

Google Andres Troya Meneses (Aruba)

I am sure someone already has.
It mentions this name with Oduber and Croes

Not really, that's an International Socialist Movement website and the Andres Troya Meneses does not appear to be linked to Oduber and Croes on the site itself.

[Tylergal]

Morning Monks-

I am reminded of what Kermit posted on the FP the other day.

He said that others will be arrested that we have not heard of before. This Andres is someone I have not heard of before last nite... just like everyone else...

This person fits his criteria and Kermit has been saying this for well over a year.

just something else to think about.

Is this the pimps official photographer and Freddy the video man? Who was in that white car closely following K2 in deepak's car as they drove in front of the diamond store?

I asked that last night of Kermit and got no direct response.  That little frog is similar to a chamelon.  It can slip right through your fingers, now you see it and now you don't, rather than changing colors; it will just avoid a direct answer.

Tylergal.. I'm sorry to say that is not at all true about Kermit. I know, I spent alot of time with that lil frog and know that is not true.

If Kermit has the answer, Kermit will provide it. Please take no offense to my post, but I think Kermit just dropped by and then left... that is one busy Frog.  

Au contrere.  I think Kermit knows far more than he shares.  I think that is one smart little frog and he keeps much close to the vest, while sharing things for others to think about and research while he goes out looking for other tid bits to work.  No, I think he is much smarter than most give him credit for.  He works hard and expects others to do their homework as well.

[oldfart]

Peeking in...

In the filing  you have spellings of Menses and Meneses

Aruban white pages has a
Menes Jeane A  
Willem De Zwijgerstraat 7 ..................584-6619

I'm just wondering..

[Silverfox]

Methinks it is just a matter of time now...

I suspect that in addition to the two Sloots that some other very well placed government officials will also be charged in one way or another...

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there isn't an organized crime and drug connection here -- did you really believe that the US DEA agent just happened to coincidently be handy right at the beginning?  Corruption runs deep in some circles where lots of money is involved....

and the leaked video at the casino that shows paulus?  there are other cams as well, you know?  every casino is loaded to show every table and every angle to watch not only the players -- but the dealers as well....

[Starr]

Have to go.

Sorry I couldn't help.
I am one of those people who have to get to the last page to figure out whats going on!

[AZLady]

Klaas, can you ask Dave Holloway if he knows how Andres Meneses might be involved in the case?  Since the kid was interviewed eight time, Dave might know who he is and what his relationship is with the three perps.

[Tylergal]

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, Silver Fox, wherever you are!  Good to see you and I do believe these little pimps are an extension of their elders.  Absolutely whether or not there are ever arrest of the elders; there certainly is a moral connection.  These young thugs learned from example.