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« Reply #680 on: April 05, 2009, 03:49:47 PM »

Dominic Casey...boy it seems so suspicious that he and Cindy would have had a falling out.  I'm thinking that Cindy wanted DKC to lie or omit facts in his deposition with Morgan.  DKC got a very high-powered attorney at the very last minute and cancelled his depo.  I've not yet heard that the depo has been rescheduled.  Has any other monkey any information on this? 

I'm also wondering WHY DKC thought he needed to get such a high-powered attorney.  I'm beginning to think that DKC could be in a whole lot of trouble in this whole mess with Cindy and could be in jeopardy of losing his PI license and possibly going to jail. 



I just wish that anyone connected with the Anthony's would step up to the plate and tell the TRUTH.
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« Reply #681 on: April 05, 2009, 03:56:04 PM »

JUJU THIS IS B-11'S MYSPACE.  Her blogs are listed on the right hand side, just click on the title for it to open and you to be able to read.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=54234635

I went to the site and subscribed; however, I cannot find the information that Boo posted...the latest item I found was for April 3.  ?


Maybe she is editing it - there was an April 5th entry - 1am.  I saw it!  But you are correct, not showing right now.
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« Reply #682 on: April 05, 2009, 04:03:44 PM »

Sunday morning OT for the Catholics here (c'mon, we already had our "blockbuster" for the day, Cindy and Dom broke up! Oooh, do you think she'll stop leaving notes on his locker? And will he peel out when he sees her in the parking lot? )

So, it's Palm Sunday. As we're reading the Passion (the big long long long long part that leads up to Jesus' death)...did anyone else hear the music  from "Jesus Christ Superstar" playing in your head? And did anyone else think it might be more FUN if we just sang the whole play? And then, of course, cos we're Catholic, did anyone else feel guilty about thinking Father should make the Mass more fun?

(Oh, this monkey is SO going to hell! )
I just got in the cage Tevye. WTH is this about Cindy and Dominic?

As the good Catholic that I am, I listened intently to the full gospel and didn't think a thing about Jesus Christ Superstar music. I thought about Jim Caveziel in Passion of the Christ, he was so hot.  

All I could think about during the reading was how bad my knee was hurting and I never thought it would end. So my Tevye friend, I will be rotting in hell along with you!

At least I'm not a sociopath, Father told me so yesterday!  
I could have told you that you weren't a sociopath, I can't believe the priest made a comment like that. You are way to kind and thoughtful and you love Joe  Cindy and Dom had a falling out, hope Dom starts telling tales about Cindy and George. Get prepared Cindy and George will get deposed on Thurs. Can't wait for the lies to begin. Also the Anthony's took their new boat on a maiden voyage 
Actually he told me if I didn't feel guilt for hating the Ants, I would be considered a sociopath! I really had a gigglesnort under my breath when he said that.

I can't wait until Thursday, do you think the videos will come out Thursday or Friday? Any info on when Mr Casey's depo will be? That's the one I want to see. That man is creepier than creepy. He reminds me of a skeletor.

I heard about the maiden voyage on the boat. I hope it is a three hour tour like on Gilligans Island. Do you think Cindy dressed like Ginger, Mary Ann or Mrs Howell? 
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« Reply #683 on: April 05, 2009, 04:05:00 PM »

JUJU THIS IS B-11'S MYSPACE.  Her blogs are listed on the right hand side, just click on the title for it to open and you to be able to read.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=54234635

I went to the site and subscribed; however, I cannot find the information that Boo posted...the latest item I found was for April 3.  ?


Maybe she is editing it - there was an April 5th entry - 1am.  I saw it!  But you are correct, not showing right now.

ANJ - thank you.

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« Reply #684 on: April 05, 2009, 04:06:22 PM »

ANews - thanks so much for your helpful tips and links!  I promise I'll practice and get better!

Regarding the falling out between Cindy and Dominic - I notice on D's LE interview Jan 7, Brad Conman is listed as his attorney so it would seem Dominic was not yet considered a threat to Cindy's version of things.  Maybe his new attorney has suggested he cut all ties with the vindictive Cindy - she may have threatened to nail him if he refused to be a martyr on her behalf.

I would think he's already in hot water for running three concurrent contracts that might all have conflicts of interest - with the Ants, Casey herself and Baez.  If Cindy sent him out there to find the body and move it - and if she now knows that he could testify to that fact for the defense and thereby be implicated as a suspect, she may be spitting mad.  It would be obvious even to her that after listening to both his testimony and Hoover's that were just released they both were hedging their bets and looking to make a quick buck selling that video to some tabloid if the Ants didn't come through with all the money they supposedly owed him.
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« Reply #685 on: April 05, 2009, 04:07:39 PM »

So Dominic and Cindy had a falling out. What a shocker. Bad timing on her part since ol Dom has NOT given his deposition yet. Hmmmm the tales he could tell. Bad move on her part. She must not have heard of the adage:
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer!

He's gonna spill about their affair, how she reacted, how early she knew Caylee was dead, how she is protecting her daughter. All her dirty little secrets out in the open cause she had to try to control Dom.   

Holy Shiznit!   

too good and funny!

NJM, so happy to see you back to yourself!

I've been sick with allergies, and then company coming to dinner today... hope i don't miss anything!

Hello to all the Monkeys!
HELLO Mags, sorry you've been sick, can I come to dinner too?  What is on the menu? Crab puffs? Just kidding, have fun with your company and feel better. Hugs JSM
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« Reply #686 on: April 05, 2009, 04:13:45 PM »

Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest and Welcome to all of the new Monkeys...

I am just getting caught up after having 3 of the grandkids yesterday.....I think I cooked all day long. lol

Dolce, you just look so darn beautiful in your new pic. The babes are really growing now. I was excited with all the grandbabies, but was just blown away when my son's twins were on the way. They will simply amaze you when they get here. I can just about bet you the girl will be the boss. Mine will be nine next month and she is still the boss.

JSM, hope that knee gets better soon. I can assure you....you do not want a knee replacement.

Glad to all all of you today.

Boo.... thanks for the info from BB11....I can't wait to see how it all plays out. I hate the boat didn't sink yesterday. I have to try to get my house put back together before morning, so looking forward to the new doc. dump. Just hope it is better than the last one.
Thanks Darla have you had a replacement? It is feeling better today. Wrapped in ice, propped up above my keyboard, it's really hard to type though. Once you get your house back together, I would gladly let you come and get mine straightend up. 

 I remember going to my Grandma's house. She cooked, baked cakes and cook pancakes for breakfast all the time. Even when she was old, the first cold day of winter she would call us to come get her homemade soup. I really miss her.
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« Reply #687 on: April 05, 2009, 04:15:42 PM »

Dominic Casey...boy it seems so suspicious that he and Cindy would have had a falling out.  I'm thinking that Cindy wanted DKC to lie or omit facts in his deposition with Morgan.  DKC got a very high-powered attorney at the very last minute and cancelled his depo.  I've not yet heard that the depo has been rescheduled.  Has any other monkey any information on this? 

I'm also wondering WHY DKC thought he needed to get such a high-powered attorney.  I'm beginning to think that DKC could be in a whole lot of trouble in this whole mess with Cindy and could be in jeopardy of losing his PI license and possibly going to jail. 



I just wish that anyone connected with the Anthony's would step up to the plate and tell the TRUTH.
I wish it would happen too, but I believe anyone connected to the Ants wouldn't know the TRUTH if it slapped them smack in the face. JMO JSM
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« Reply #688 on: April 05, 2009, 04:20:21 PM »

Okay, here is what I have so far.  Dear Son is coming over, so will get back to this later and see if anyone has anything for me! 

June _______    Teen saw casey car
June or July??_________     Teens called police to scene and were told it was bomb  -          who was responding officer??? CAIN????
July 19     Kio tells police about it being teen hang out -Met with Detective Wells by          school.
June 24     Gas can of georgie and OFFICE CAIN takes call
Aug 11     Kronk calls - doesn’t meet with anyone.  Officer _____ comes out and          didn’t find anything.
Aug 12      Kronk calls tipline. Officer McBride (female) takes call, logs it and passes          it on to Gerald (sp?) White who cleared it after 2 days when Melish said          area had been cleared.
Aug 13     Kronk again - CAIN comes gets scared of snake!
Aug 12     Gale St. John and crew there.  They have their video showing they were          there - Aug 12 or 13 ish
Aug 18    Keith Williams shows cindy bag - note she handles things - so that would          explain fingerprints later found.
Oct 21         K. Williams back again - school calls for trespass.  Officer responding          ______.

Nov 08      TES Search.  JHoover approaches TES searcher w/white-car-sighting          story.

Nov 09      2nd day of TES Search.  Tim Miller calls off the search.


Nov 15      "Meet and Greet."  DCasey and JHoover go on first search at Suburban Dr.        Video time stamped Nov 15.

Nov 16      DCasey and JHoover go on second search at Suburban Dr.


Dec 11    Kronk finds skull


Need:   Any additional dates of Tes searches for completeness.   Still firming up dates.  Kio’s should be okay via interview: http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/kiomarie-cruz-le-interview-transcript/   What else???  Please - feel free to add or correct me!   This is just a rough start, and my dates are not exact nor double checked - but if we could somehow make a list of all at the scene and all who were there and their other connections - just seems it would be useful.  The daisy chain is starting to look not far fetched.  Some of the dates Desi originally had, when I so rudely ran a slightly different direction are taken out for this point.  Those date are critical in showing any possible actions that imply the anthonys knew Caylee was disposed of already.  L


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« Reply #689 on: April 05, 2009, 04:20:22 PM »

ANews - thanks so much for your helpful tips and links!  I promise I'll practice and get better!

Regarding the falling out between Cindy and Dominic - I notice on D's LE interview Jan 7, Brad Conman is listed as his attorney so it would seem Dominic was not yet considered a threat to Cindy's version of things.  Maybe his new attorney has suggested he cut all ties with the vindictive Cindy - she may have threatened to nail him if he refused to be a martyr on her behalf.

I would think he's already in hot water for running three concurrent contracts that might all have conflicts of interest - with the Ants, Casey herself and Baez.  If Cindy sent him out there to find the body and move it - and if she now knows that he could testify to that fact for the defense and thereby be implicated as a suspect, she may be spitting mad.  It would be obvious even to her that after listening to both his testimony and Hoover's that were just released they both were hedging their bets and looking to make a quick buck selling that video to some tabloid if the Ants didn't come through with all the money they supposedly owed him.

I really hope they've had a falling out...it makes for very interesting discussion...bad timing on Cindy's part...bet the new high-powered attorney has had a LOT to do with the falling out...i.e., DKC is just not bowing down and doing as Cindy says he should do any longer...

Like I've said previously, it will get much worse and much nastier as it gets closer to trial...and just think...the trial is still 6 months away...no telling what we'll hear/find out in all that time.

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« Reply #690 on: April 05, 2009, 04:20:47 PM »

Dom Casey didn't show for the depo, and hired a big wig attorney, I don't think the depo has been rescheduled yet. Can't wait for that one.
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« Reply #691 on: April 05, 2009, 04:24:32 PM »

Cindy - the neck throttler...question: do we know if anyone other than Cindy and KC that directly saw Cindy choke KC?  I'm thinking that if they have Cindy on the stand and she denies choking KC, that it can't be proved unless KC gets on the stand and testifies to it.  I doubt that even Jose will put KC on the stand.


Putting Casey on the stand would be a very bad move on Baez's part.  The prosecution would eat her alive.
I believe the choking incident is hearsay - told to Tony L and Jesse by Lee who did not witness it.  A neighbor reported an incident involving a lot of loud screaming  and saw Cindy leave the house with Casey yelling after her but I am not sure when that occurred.

It's my understanding that if Casey wishes to change her original police report to try to frame someone besides ZFG she is going to have to get on the stand but I could be wrong.  If that happens, Ms. Burdick will eat her alive on cross.
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« Reply #692 on: April 05, 2009, 04:26:25 PM »

Dom Casey didn't show for the depo, and hired a big wig attorney, I don't think the depo has been rescheduled yet. Can't wait for that one.

I'm very curious to see/hear what happens in Morgan's depos with Cindy and George.  But..the one I'm most interested in is Lenonard Padilla..which Morgan specifically re-scheduled to take after Cindy and George.  tee hee

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« Reply #693 on: April 05, 2009, 04:27:03 PM »

Cecy - Agree with your thoughts and D.Casey might have just figured out that his love of freedom is greater than his love for cindy!  Epiphany time! 
As to fitting in, you are doing fine!  I was not saying you need more practice - just trying to be a helpful girl scout monkey for all who are new!  (might be the mom in me! LOL)
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« Reply #694 on: April 05, 2009, 04:27:30 PM »

JUJU THIS IS B-11'S MYSPACE.  Her blogs are listed on the right hand side, just click on the title for it to open and you to be able to read.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=54234635

I went to the site and subscribed; however, I cannot find the information that Boo posted...the latest item I found was for April 3.  ?


Maybe she is editing it - there was an April 5th entry - 1am.  I saw it!  But you are correct, not showing right now.

ANJ - thank you.



Just trying to catch up in this thread today.

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« Reply #695 on: April 05, 2009, 04:30:26 PM »

Cindy - the neck throttler...question: do we know if anyone other than Cindy and KC that directly saw Cindy choke KC?  I'm thinking that if they have Cindy on the stand and she denies choking KC, that it can't be proved unless KC gets on the stand and testifies to it.  I doubt that even Jose will put KC on the stand.


Putting Casey on the stand would be a very bad move on Baez's part.  The prosecution would eat her alive.
I believe the choking incident is hearsay - told to Tony L and Jesse by Lee who did not witness it.  A neighbor reported an incident involving a lot of loud screaming  and saw Cindy leave the house with Casey yelling after her but I am not sure when that occurred.

It's my understanding that if Casey wishes to change her original police report to try to frame someone besides ZFG she is going to have to get on the stand but I could be wrong.  If that happens, Ms. Burdick will eat her alive on cross.


Cecybeans - that's what I was getting at..."hearsay"....but Baez has done some dumb things before and he might try to get it in through questioning Lee on the stand.  I say "try", because I think the prosecution would object and the judge wouldn't allow the questioning.  I just don't think that KC will ever take the stand. 
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« Reply #696 on: April 05, 2009, 04:30:37 PM »

Hi Monkeys, I am back.  Do we get a Doc Dump tomorrow, anything else????
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« Reply #697 on: April 05, 2009, 04:34:55 PM »

Hey ya monkeys, wishing you all a blessed Palm Sunday for our fellow Christians, a glorious day for all.

Reading to catch up,  I'm just not shocked at all by what B11  posted for several reasons.  DC canceled his deposition at grave risk of contempt, I think its easy to see how he doesn't want to go down with the ship (too late for that Id say) speaking of ships (sort of lol) maiden voyage....OMG what Im avoiding saying on a sacred day!!   The Anthonys have a huge problem since Cindy admitted to detectives  during a subsequent search warrant after Caylee's remains were found that she "sent someone" to those very woods on Suburban (DC).  Casey despises her mother & after Caylee's remains were recovered it became obvious by her statement read by her attorney that she had new cause to be very resentful.   I do not think that Casey's defense will be successful in showing Cindy being responsible for Caylee's murder per se but they will sell her down the river with some sort of culpability, in a heartbeat -- I agree with so many on that & you could see it coming just in how they interacted with each other way back in mid July, much less the evidence.   But one of the key things that will seal Casey's fate is her statement to her brother "Maybe I'm just a spiteful B."

A few mentioned Casey saying to her parents during their jail visit "dont worry I havent said anything" another line that disturbed me came from Cindy was on July 15th...her contact to Casey (about the car), I think the text was pretty much quoted as being "call me, huge problem."   In that same jail visit Cindy tells Casey that if she needs someone to talk to that she can contact Dominic Casey.   The date of contract between Casey & Dominic Casey is Sept 12th, correct?   This should be very interesting for the Anthonys to explain why they felt the need for their  PI to also sign an agreement with their daughter prior to her being indicted on murder one charges for the suspected death of their granddaughter.   If memory serves, Casey was home for the second time after her second bond was posted but before her indictment.

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« Reply #698 on: April 05, 2009, 04:38:51 PM »

Dom Casey didn't show for the depo, and hired a big wig attorney, I don't think the depo has been rescheduled yet. Can't wait for that one.

I'm very curious to see/hear what happens in Morgan's depos with Cindy and George.  But..the one I'm most interested in is Lenonard Padilla..which Morgan specifically re-scheduled to take after Cindy and George.  tee hee



I reluctantly agree with (I believe it might be Blink's?) contention that somehow Cindy and George will skate on this (unless one of the reasons she hates Baez is that he won't drop the countersuit and therefore eliminate their need to testify without taking the 5th).   I'll bet they have been busy all week autodialing to get a medical excuse.  So I am not holding my breath, and if those two are talking  we know they are lying.  Paddy though!  Yeah - I can hardly wait for what he's got to say!!
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« Reply #699 on: April 05, 2009, 04:41:02 PM »

Hi Monkeys, I am back.  Do we get a Doc Dump tomorrow, anything else????

Welcome back A1!   Hope you had a nice trip, well aside from your flight from H E double hockey sticks.
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