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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 - 7/28/09 (Read 442830 times)
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Blue Moon
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #160 on:
July 19, 2009, 07:32:20 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on July 19, 2009, 07:27:56 PM
I need to ask ya'll something.
The couple that was killed in the Florida panhandle once owned a strip club called
Back Seat.
Wasn't that one of Mr. Pink's company names?
Mags, are you getting a funny feeling something is very wrong in this case of murder? I have a very strong feeling something is just not right about the circumstances surrounding all this.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #161 on:
July 19, 2009, 07:36:59 PM »
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:30:58 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on July 19, 2009, 07:27:56 PM
I need to ask ya'll something.
The couple that was killed in the Florida panhandle once owned a strip club called
Back Seat.
Wasn't that one of Mr. Pink's company names?
I am wanting to say it was Back Seat Bangers? I could be wrong.
Thanks, Blue Moon. I was thinking it was Back Seat Productions. Surely, there is no connection.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #162 on:
July 19, 2009, 07:43:00 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on July 19, 2009, 07:27:56 PM
I need to ask ya'll something.
The couple that was killed in the Florida panhandle once owned a strip club called
Back Seat.
Wasn't that one of Mr. Pink's company names?
Murdered Fla. Couple's Daughter Will Care for 13 Siblings
The Adult Daughter of Byrd and Melanie Billings Will Move Into the Family Home
By LEE FERRAN, BILL McGUIRE and LAUREN COX
July 19, 2009
Byrd Billings was a 66-year-old entrepreneur who dabbled in used cars, boats and
the adult industry
before finally hitting it big. Melanie Billings was a 43-year-old country music lover who fed the homeless and was devoted to her MySpace page.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8122403&page=1
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #163 on:
July 19, 2009, 07:43:34 PM »
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
QUOTE FROM BASTIBRO:
I guess you are familiar with my take on that issue Blue Moon,
Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.
Besides that I would consider any answers from Eduardo Mansur as not reliable.
QUOTE FROM BLUE MOON:
Oh Bastibro do not put words in my mouth. You and others STILL do not get it. I DID NOT say I believe Natalee was in that cage (very possible though). What I AM saying is WE WILL NEVER know what was in that cage because they were allowed (ALE) full unrestricted access to that cage to remove "whatever" was in it without any objections from anyone on that ship. Face it, that IS what Kyle said and HE has NOT returned to dispute those words. The pictures clearly show large plastic bags with "evidence" in it being removed. Now whether it was the remains of Natalee or the remains of whoever WE will never know because ALE was allowed to do it without ANY objections from ANYONE. Do you get my drift now. You are entitled to your opinion BUT so am I and Kyle cannot dispute his own words
I don't believe Bastibro has been back to answer this. Why? Because he or the rest of them have NO answers. Having an opinion is one thing but when stated so firmly that Kyle would not lie when we have his words here for all to read is another thing. My conclusion at this point is there were remains in that cage. JMO Who's we do not know but I do have a feeling it was Natalee but now it cannot be proved.
The part I highlighted in green above I find interesting too. Just curious as to what that opinion is based on.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #164 on:
July 19, 2009, 07:44:37 PM »
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:32:20 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on July 19, 2009, 07:27:56 PM
I need to ask ya'll something.
The couple that was killed in the Florida panhandle once owned a strip club called
Back Seat.
Wasn't that one of Mr. Pink's company names?
Mags, are you getting a funny feeling something is very wrong in this case of murder? I have a very strong feeling something is just not right about the circumstances surrounding all this.
As I said before, A group of seven or eight people, some of them active military, training for a month
to burgle a home surely raises suspicion. I think there is more than we know at this time.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #165 on:
July 19, 2009, 07:46:03 PM »
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
QUOTE FROM BASTIBRO:
I guess you are familiar with my take on that issue Blue Moon,
Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.
Besides that I would consider any answers from Eduardo Mansur as not reliable.
QUOTE FROM BLUE MOON:
Oh Bastibro do not put words in my mouth. You and others STILL do not get it. I DID NOT say I believe Natalee was in that cage (very possible though). What I AM saying is WE WILL NEVER know what was in that cage because they were allowed (ALE) full unrestricted access to that cage to remove "whatever" was in it without any objections from anyone on that ship. Face it, that IS what Kyle said and HE has NOT returned to dispute those words. The pictures clearly show large plastic bags with "evidence" in it being removed. Now whether it was the remains of Natalee or the remains of whoever WE will never know because ALE was allowed to do it without ANY objections from ANYONE. Do you get my drift now. You are entitled to your opinion BUT so am I and Kyle cannot dispute his own words
I don't believe Bastibro has been back to answer this.
Why? Because he or the rest of them have NO answers.
Having an opinion is one thing but when stated so firmly that Kyle would not lie when we have his words here for all to read is another thing. My conclusion at this point is there were remains in that cage. JMO Who's we do not know but I do have a feeling it was Natalee but now it cannot be proved.
I agree.
This reminds me of "Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies."
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #166 on:
July 19, 2009, 07:50:11 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on July 19, 2009, 07:44:37 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:32:20 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on July 19, 2009, 07:27:56 PM
I need to ask ya'll something.
The couple that was killed in the Florida panhandle once owned a strip club called
Back Seat.
Wasn't that one of Mr. Pink's company names?
Mags, are you getting a funny feeling something is very wrong in this case of murder? I have a very strong feeling something is just not right about the circumstances surrounding all this.
As I said before, A group of seven or eight people, some of them active military, training for a month
to burgle a home surely raises suspicion.
I think there is more than we know at this time.
I agree.
Mixed Picture of Billings' Emerges in Fla. Double Murder Case
Robbers Allegedly Killed for Children's Medication, Family Documents and Some Jewelry
By LEE FERRAN and BILL McGUIRE
July 17, 2009
Together, they adopted 13 children with autism, Down Syndrome and other developmental disabilities and lived in a sprawling home west of Pensacola.
Interviews and court records obtained by the Associated Press also portray Byrd Billings as a former strip club owner-turned used car dealer who was once sentenced to probation for an adoption scam. He frequently crossed paths with "shady characters," according to an ex-wife, but police have offered no evidence linking his past to the murders of Billings and his wife.
Known around Pensacola as "Bud," Byrd Billings spent his early years in Mississippi and Tennessee. He owned a car dealership in Mississippi in the 1980s, and incorporated a boat company in 1976. The corporation was dissolved in the 1980s. In divorce records from the dissolution of his second marriage, in 1993, Billings reported having a net worth of just $1,400, including total cash assets of $100 and a net monthly income of $1,190. Four months after the divorce, Melanie became his third wife.
At the time of their death, they were living in a $700,000 home - opulent by Pensacola standards - and associates say they employed several people to care for the children. But how they
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8110569&page=1
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #167 on:
July 19, 2009, 07:50:43 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2009, 07:43:34 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
QUOTE FROM BASTIBRO:
I guess you are familiar with my take on that issue Blue Moon,
Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.
Besides that I would consider any answers from Eduardo Mansur as not reliable.
QUOTE FROM BLUE MOON:
Oh Bastibro do not put words in my mouth. You and others STILL do not get it. I DID NOT say I believe Natalee was in that cage (very possible though). What I AM saying is WE WILL NEVER know what was in that cage because they were allowed (ALE) full unrestricted access to that cage to remove "whatever" was in it without any objections from anyone on that ship. Face it, that IS what Kyle said and HE has NOT returned to dispute those words. The pictures clearly show large plastic bags with "evidence" in it being removed. Now whether it was the remains of Natalee or the remains of whoever WE will never know because ALE was allowed to do it without ANY objections from ANYONE. Do you get my drift now. You are entitled to your opinion BUT so am I and Kyle cannot dispute his own words
I don't believe Bastibro has been back to answer this. Why? Because he or the rest of them have NO answers. Having an opinion is one thing but when stated so firmly that Kyle would not lie when we have his words here for all to read is another thing. My conclusion at this point is there were remains in that cage. JMO Who's we do not know but I do have a feeling it was Natalee but now it cannot be proved.
The part I highlighted in green above I find interesting too. Just curious as to what that opinion is based on.
My guess would be Hotshot TOLD him that and he firmly believes it.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #168 on:
July 19, 2009, 07:57:44 PM »
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:50:43 PM
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2009, 07:43:34 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
QUOTE FROM BASTIBRO:
I guess you are familiar with my take on that issue Blue Moon,
Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.
Besides that I would consider any answers from Eduardo Mansur as not reliable.
QUOTE FROM BLUE MOON:
Oh Bastibro do not put words in my mouth. You and others STILL do not get it. I DID NOT say I believe Natalee was in that cage (very possible though). What I AM saying is WE WILL NEVER know what was in that cage because they were allowed (ALE) full unrestricted access to that cage to remove "whatever" was in it without any objections from anyone on that ship. Face it, that IS what Kyle said and HE has NOT returned to dispute those words. The pictures clearly show large plastic bags with "evidence" in it being removed. Now whether it was the remains of Natalee or the remains of whoever WE will never know because ALE was allowed to do it without ANY objections from ANYONE. Do you get my drift now. You are entitled to your opinion BUT so am I and Kyle cannot dispute his own words
I don't believe Bastibro has been back to answer this. Why? Because he or the rest of them have NO answers. Having an opinion is one thing but when stated so firmly that Kyle would not lie when we have his words here for all to read is another thing. My conclusion at this point is there were remains in that cage. JMO Who's we do not know but I do have a feeling it was Natalee but now it cannot be proved.
The part I highlighted in green above I find interesting too. Just curious as to what that opinion is based on.
My guess would be Hotshot TOLD him that and he firmly believes it.
I was thinking maybe Caps, but probably the same difference.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #169 on:
July 19, 2009, 08:25:36 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2009, 07:57:44 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:50:43 PM
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2009, 07:43:34 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
QUOTE FROM BASTIBRO:
I guess you are familiar with my take on that issue Blue Moon,
Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.
Besides that I would consider any answers from Eduardo Mansur as not reliable.
QUOTE FROM BLUE MOON:
Oh Bastibro do not put words in my mouth. You and others STILL do not get it. I DID NOT say I believe Natalee was in that cage (very possible though). What I AM saying is WE WILL NEVER know what was in that cage because they were allowed (ALE) full unrestricted access to that cage to remove "whatever" was in it without any objections from anyone on that ship. Face it, that IS what Kyle said and HE has NOT returned to dispute those words. The pictures clearly show large plastic bags with "evidence" in it being removed. Now whether it was the remains of Natalee or the remains of whoever WE will never know because ALE was allowed to do it without ANY objections from ANYONE. Do you get my drift now. You are entitled to your opinion BUT so am I and Kyle cannot dispute his own words
I don't believe Bastibro has been back to answer this. Why? Because he or the rest of them have NO answers. Having an opinion is one thing but when stated so firmly that Kyle would not lie when we have his words here for all to read is another thing. My conclusion at this point is there were remains in that cage. JMO Who's we do not know but I do have a feeling it was Natalee but now it cannot be proved.
The part I highlighted in green above I find interesting too. Just curious as to what that opinion is based on.
My guess would be Hotshot TOLD him that and he firmly believes it.
I was thinking maybe Caps, but probably the same difference.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #170 on:
July 19, 2009, 09:09:41 PM »
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 07:46:03 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
QUOTE FROM BASTIBRO:
I guess you are familiar with my take on that issue Blue Moon,
Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.
Besides that I would consider any answers from Eduardo Mansur as not reliable.
QUOTE FROM BLUE MOON:
Oh Bastibro do not put words in my mouth. You and others STILL do not get it. I DID NOT say I believe Natalee was in that cage (very possible though). What I AM saying is WE WILL NEVER know what was in that cage because they were allowed (ALE) full unrestricted access to that cage to remove "whatever" was in it without any objections from anyone on that ship. Face it, that IS what Kyle said and HE has NOT returned to dispute those words. The pictures clearly show large plastic bags with "evidence" in it being removed. Now whether it was the remains of Natalee or the remains of whoever WE will never know because ALE was allowed to do it without ANY objections from ANYONE. Do you get my drift now. You are entitled to your opinion BUT so am I and Kyle cannot dispute his own words
I don't believe Bastibro has been back to answer this.
Why? Because he or the rest of them have NO answers.
Having an opinion is one thing but when stated so firmly that Kyle would not lie when we have his words here for all to read is another thing. My conclusion at this point is there were remains in that cage. JMO Who's we do not know but I do have a feeling it was Natalee but now it cannot be proved.
I agree.
This reminds me of "Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies."
Or 'ask me no questions because I will not answer them'..... didn't take the time to go find my post asking questions about his SS statement. Quite honestly, I think of the case, what it means to me, how it will ever be resolved. I try not to spend time on those who follow but make half ass'd statements with no backup......Yes, I have read today's comments and agree. Even noticed Debbie logged on earlier and wondered if she'd have something to offer or if maybe she was just checking spelling.
If I sound a little irritable, maybe it's because it's been a long, busy weekend here. I come here first and last, every day that I can & won't stop unless this computer craps out, I croak or am out of town.
San, I love your website photo & message.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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July 19, 2009, 09:15:00 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on July 19, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
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Even noticed Debbie logged on earlier and wondered if she'd have something to offer
or if maybe she was just checking spelling
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_____
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #172 on:
July 19, 2009, 09:17:27 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2009, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on July 19, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
<snipped>
Even noticed Debbie logged on earlier and wondered if she'd have something to offer
or if maybe she was just checking spelling
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<snipped<
That's what I was thinking.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #173 on:
July 19, 2009, 09:20:29 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on July 19, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 07:46:03 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
QUOTE FROM BASTIBRO:
I guess you are familiar with my take on that issue Blue Moon,
Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.
Besides that I would consider any answers from Eduardo Mansur as not reliable.
QUOTE FROM BLUE MOON:
Oh Bastibro do not put words in my mouth. You and others STILL do not get it. I DID NOT say I believe Natalee was in that cage (very possible though). What I AM saying is WE WILL NEVER know what was in that cage because they were allowed (ALE) full unrestricted access to that cage to remove "whatever" was in it without any objections from anyone on that ship. Face it, that IS what Kyle said and HE has NOT returned to dispute those words. The pictures clearly show large plastic bags with "evidence" in it being removed. Now whether it was the remains of Natalee or the remains of whoever WE will never know because ALE was allowed to do it without ANY objections from ANYONE. Do you get my drift now. You are entitled to your opinion BUT so am I and Kyle cannot dispute his own words
I don't believe Bastibro has been back to answer this.
Why? Because he or the rest of them have NO answers.
Having an opinion is one thing but when stated so firmly that Kyle would not lie when we have his words here for all to read is another thing. My conclusion at this point is there were remains in that cage. JMO Who's we do not know but I do have a feeling it was Natalee but now it cannot be proved.
I agree.
This reminds me of "Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies."
Or 'ask me no questions because I will not answer them'..... didn't take the time to go find my post asking questions about his SS statement. Quite honestly, I think of the case, what it means to me, how it will ever be resolved. I try not to spend time on those who follow but make half ass'd statements with no backup......Yes, I have read today's comments and agree. Even noticed Debbie logged on earlier and wondered if she'd have something to offer or if maybe she was just checking spelling.
If I sound a little irritable, maybe it's because it's been a long, busy weekend here.
I come here first and last, every day that I can & won't stop unless this computer craps out, I croak or am out of town.
San, I love your website photo & message.
I also come here first and last thing every day before I head over to the other threads. You never know when there will be good news that Natalee is finally coming home to her family and country. It is a very simple thing to do the right thing for Beth and Dave and for the memory of Natalee. Aruba, sadly, will never do the right thing.
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from 2NJ:
San, I love your website photo & message.
Sand what is your website photo?
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Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 09:22:10 PM
from 2NJ:
San, I love your website photo & message.
San
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what is your website photo?
Darn it---correction.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #176 on:
July 19, 2009, 09:35:13 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on July 19, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 07:46:03 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
QUOTE FROM BASTIBRO:
I guess you are familiar with my take on that issue Blue Moon,
Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.
Besides that I would consider any answers from Eduardo Mansur as not reliable.
QUOTE FROM BLUE MOON:
Oh Bastibro do not put words in my mouth. You and others STILL do not get it. I DID NOT say I believe Natalee was in that cage (very possible though). What I AM saying is WE WILL NEVER know what was in that cage because they were allowed (ALE) full unrestricted access to that cage to remove "whatever" was in it without any objections from anyone on that ship. Face it, that IS what Kyle said and HE has NOT returned to dispute those words. The pictures clearly show large plastic bags with "evidence" in it being removed. Now whether it was the remains of Natalee or the remains of whoever WE will never know because ALE was allowed to do it without ANY objections from ANYONE. Do you get my drift now. You are entitled to your opinion BUT so am I and Kyle cannot dispute his own words
I don't believe Bastibro has been back to answer this.
Why? Because he or the rest of them have NO answers.
Having an opinion is one thing but when stated so firmly that Kyle would not lie when we have his words here for all to read is another thing. My conclusion at this point is there were remains in that cage. JMO Who's we do not know but I do have a feeling it was Natalee but now it cannot be proved.
I agree.
This reminds me of "Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies."
Or 'ask me no questions because I will not answer them'..... didn't take the time to go find my post asking questions about his SS statement. Quite honestly, I think of the case, what it means to me, how it will ever be resolved. I try not to spend time on those who follow but make half ass'd statements with no backup......Yes, I have read today's comments and agree. Even noticed Debbie logged on earlier and wondered if she'd have something to offer or if maybe she was just checking spelling.
If I sound a little irritable, maybe it's because it's been a long, busy weekend here. I come here first and last, every day that I can & won't stop unless this computer craps out, I croak or am out of town.
San, I love your website photo & message.
I agree 2NJ. I try not to spend too much time thinking about "them" either; it tends to made me mad and grumpy. And since Bastibro has developed a habit of coming here to make his comments about posts, but doesn't see fit to answer any subsequent questions regarding his comments; I've come to consider him just another drive-by like so many others before him. JMO
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on July 19, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 07:46:03 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
QUOTE FROM BASTIBRO:
I guess you are familiar with my take on that issue Blue Moon,
Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.
Besides that I would consider any answers from Eduardo Mansur as not reliable.
QUOTE FROM BLUE MOON:
Oh Bastibro do not put words in my mouth. You and others STILL do not get it. I DID NOT say I believe Natalee was in that cage (very possible though). What I AM saying is WE WILL NEVER know what was in that cage because they were allowed (ALE) full unrestricted access to that cage to remove "whatever" was in it without any objections from anyone on that ship. Face it, that IS what Kyle said and HE has NOT returned to dispute those words. The pictures clearly show large plastic bags with "evidence" in it being removed. Now whether it was the remains of Natalee or the remains of whoever WE will never know because ALE was allowed to do it without ANY objections from ANYONE. Do you get my drift now. You are entitled to your opinion BUT so am I and Kyle cannot dispute his own words
I don't believe Bastibro has been back to answer this.
Why? Because he or the rest of them have NO answers.
Having an opinion is one thing but when stated so firmly that Kyle would not lie when we have his words here for all to read is another thing. My conclusion at this point is there were remains in that cage. JMO Who's we do not know but I do have a feeling it was Natalee but now it cannot be proved.
I agree.
This reminds me of "Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies."
Or 'ask me no questions because I will not answer them'..... didn't take the time to go find my post asking questions about his SS statement. Quite honestly, I think of the case, what it means to me, how it will ever be resolved. I try not to spend time on those who follow but make half ass'd statements with no backup......Yes, I have read today's comments and agree. Even noticed Debbie logged on earlier and wondered if she'd have something to offer or if maybe she was just checking spelling.
If I sound a little irritable, maybe it's because it's been a long, busy weekend here.
I come here first and last, every day that I can & won't stop unless this computer craps out, I croak or am out of town.
San, I love your website photo & message.
Hi 2NJ, I do the same thing. I come here first and last.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #178 on:
July 19, 2009, 09:37:23 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2009, 09:35:13 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on July 19, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 07:46:03 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
QUOTE FROM BASTIBRO:
I guess you are familiar with my take on that issue Blue Moon,
Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.
Besides that I would consider any answers from Eduardo Mansur as not reliable.
QUOTE FROM BLUE MOON:
Oh Bastibro do not put words in my mouth. You and others STILL do not get it. I DID NOT say I believe Natalee was in that cage (very possible though). What I AM saying is WE WILL NEVER know what was in that cage because they were allowed (ALE) full unrestricted access to that cage to remove "whatever" was in it without any objections from anyone on that ship. Face it, that IS what Kyle said and HE has NOT returned to dispute those words. The pictures clearly show large plastic bags with "evidence" in it being removed. Now whether it was the remains of Natalee or the remains of whoever WE will never know because ALE was allowed to do it without ANY objections from ANYONE. Do you get my drift now. You are entitled to your opinion BUT so am I and Kyle cannot dispute his own words
I don't believe Bastibro has been back to answer this.
Why? Because he or the rest of them have NO answers.
Having an opinion is one thing but when stated so firmly that Kyle would not lie when we have his words here for all to read is another thing. My conclusion at this point is there were remains in that cage. JMO Who's we do not know but I do have a feeling it was Natalee but now it cannot be proved.
I agree.
This reminds me of "Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies."
Or 'ask me no questions because I will not answer them'..... didn't take the time to go find my post asking questions about his SS statement. Quite honestly, I think of the case, what it means to me, how it will ever be resolved. I try not to spend time on those who follow but make half ass'd statements with no backup......Yes, I have read today's comments and agree. Even noticed Debbie logged on earlier and wondered if she'd have something to offer or if maybe she was just checking spelling.
If I sound a little irritable, maybe it's because it's been a long, busy weekend here. I come here first and last, every day that I can & won't stop unless this computer craps out, I croak or am out of town.
San, I love your website photo & message.
I agree 2NJ. I try not to spend too much time thinking about "them" either; it tends to make me mad and grumpy. And since Bastibro has developed a habit of coming here to make his comments about posts, but doesn't see fit to answer any subsequent questions regarding his comments; I've come to consider him just another drive-by like so many others before him. JMO
edit to correct typo!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 09:22:10 PM
from 2NJ:
San, I love your website photo & message.
Sand what is your website photo?
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