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« Reply #820 on: March 05, 2009, 10:26:11 PM »

Some still tend to believe the Jan 7th images were photoshopped!

Those people have drank too much of the KOOL-AID and eaten too many blood stained chocolate bars.
They probably beieve that Kyle was lying in all of his posts, too.

 
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« Reply #821 on: March 05, 2009, 10:33:58 PM »

I ask this question about once a month:

What happened to Greta's big renewal of interest in the case and Joran??? September - October, she spent big bucks and big air-time on Joran and his sit-down interview about "human trafficking". In November, the big "secret" was that she and Beth were heading back to Aruba -- Caps said "big arrests" were happening too.

Since then (3 months later) ----- ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MENTIONED!!!!

 
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« Reply #822 on: March 05, 2009, 10:37:15 PM »

I ask this question about once a month:

What happened to Greta's big renewal of interest in the case and Joran??? September - October, she spent big bucks and big air-time on Joran and his sit-down interview about "human trafficking". In November, the big "secret" was that she and Beth were heading back to Aruba -- Caps said "big arrests" were happening too.

Since then (3 months later) ----- ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MENTIONED!!!!

 
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« Reply #823 on: March 05, 2009, 10:38:05 PM »

I ask this question about once a month:

What happened to Greta's big renewal of interest in the case and Joran??? September - October, she spent big bucks and big air-time on Joran and his sit-down interview about "human trafficking". In November, the big "secret" was that she and Beth were heading back to Aruba -- Caps said "big arrests" were happening too.

Since then (3 months later) ----- ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MENTIONED!!!!

 

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« Reply #824 on: March 05, 2009, 10:53:15 PM »

I posted my latest document.  In my final draft ... I had provided an introduction in each section but my DIL believe that to avoid any problems ... Kyle Kingman's words need to speak for themselves.

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Topic: THE PERSISTENCE - THE TRAP (DOCUMENT)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4641.new#new

Thank You Janet The Document is Great and Please Tell Your DIL Thank You Also... 
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« Reply #825 on: March 05, 2009, 10:55:56 PM »

I posted my latest document.  In my final draft ... I had provided an introduction in each section but my DIL believe that to avoid any problems ... Kyle Kingman's words need to speak for themselves.

Janet

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Topic: THE PERSISTENCE - THE TRAP (DOCUMENT)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4641.new#new

Thank You Janet The Document is Great and Please Tell Your DIL Thank You Also... 

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« Reply #826 on: March 05, 2009, 10:57:01 PM »

I don't think it was a scam LifeSong.JMOO.I don't know which is worse.Letting the Evil doers of Aruba get away with the potential remains of Natalee Holloway or,committing many Felony's by falsifying evidence in a missing person case for monetary value,all the while making people believe ALE got away with the remains....Just my thoughts FWIW..


P.S.In either scenario.Who the hell was thinking about the family?
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« Reply #827 on: March 05, 2009, 11:00:52 PM »

[quote

The thing that has always bothered me is why did they wait from December 30 till January 7 to dive
on the site again.
If I were an American citizen looking for another American citizen and had seen the cage/trap
with wat appeared to be a skull in it, there is no way I would have let it sit there for a week
without going down and checking it out.  I would have not waited on Aruban divers.
If Edwardo was on board, fine ...dive with him or without, but check it out.
It does not make sense to just let it sit there.
I agree!! The whole purpose of this "costly" ocean search was to recover Natalee. At this point they BELIVED they had found her. WHY spend another whole week of costly time waiting around doing nothing????????????

The suspense would have killed me!  I would wager that at least 50% of the men on
the Persistence knew how to dive with tanks, even if they were not certified SCUBA.

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and if all else failed they could have flown in a US diver sooner than a week....
[/quote] Doesn't the FBI have divers? I know that the FBI was not supposedly on board but You would think that the Crew of the Persistence would have called them in....WTH was going on that They did not dive before the Arubans ever came back to retrieve the contents of the trap.....
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I'm still two pages behind...but in mho....and by all the good comments here...it is unbelievable the the Persistence crew NOT dive on the cage...it was only 90 ft to it!
If nothing else, the ROV should have been going full time to get as much footage as possible.
If it was John S. (who the evidence seems to point too) he must have had a tight hold on all to ensure them that they would wait for the arubans who offered to dive again with the Persistence crew to sample/recover the contents of the cage.
How the heck he did that is mind boggling also.
I can't even imagine how it was explained to Tim Miller and Dave that the aruban divers came in and took everything away right under the eyes of the Persistence crew...
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« Reply #828 on: March 05, 2009, 11:01:44 PM »

It is realized by John Silvetti supporters that Kyle Kingman's words reveal the truth encompassing his betrayal of Natalee Holloway, the family and those who embraced the Persistence undertaking with prayers and financial support.

Kyle Kingman holds the the power ... the Ace card and ... he must be appeased if John Silvetti is to be protected from the legal and professional fallout encompassing so many aspects of the Persistence deception.

THE PROBLEM: Kyle Kingman's own words.

THE SOLUTION: Create a smokescreen to obscure Kyle Kingman's own words. The messengers must be the focus. The messengers must be discredited.

Janet

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
« Reply #487 on: January 08, 2009, 05:58:05 AM »


If all this Persistence/Kyle conspiracy theory stuff is the real deal, why is the family, the media, etc. not jumping all over it? The more I read all Kyle's "statements" the more he reminds of when my son was 14 and had his own website. I think Kyle the ocean exploring geek has a little make believe world going on, and you're all going along for the ride. …
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4351.msg617328#msg617328


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« Reply #202 on: December 04, 2008, 03:07:37 AM »


... You guys are going to look really silly in the end for downing the people like silvetti, and Kyle, and CAPS. There must be more to do with your time then pick on the ones who actually go out of their way to help. I do not see anyone here going out there to actually help as these people did ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg565899#msg565899


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« Reply #89 on: March 02, 2009, 04:59:48 PM »


This was posted at BFN by LegallyLex who is Silvetti's sister:

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=8398.msg408940#msg408940

Quote from: LegallyLex on March 02, 2009, 12:46:20 PM

And I would again like to thank the Persistence and their crew for their selfless acts during the search along with Mr. Schaeffer who funded the search.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4617.msg699240#msg699240
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« Reply #829 on: March 05, 2009, 11:03:25 PM »

I posted my latest document.  In my final draft ... I had provided an introduction in each section but my DIL believe that to avoid any problems ... Kyle Kingman's words need to speak for themselves.

Janet

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Topic: THE PERSISTENCE - THE TRAP (DOCUMENT)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4641.new#new

Thank You Janet The Document is Great and Please Tell Your DIL Thank You Also... 

Tamikosmom -
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« Reply #830 on: March 05, 2009, 11:08:00 PM »

Janet,
I came back after my TV program to read your document.

You and DIL did a superb job.  Thanks to both of you for all your effort in this regard.

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« Reply #831 on: March 05, 2009, 11:13:28 PM »

Good work, Janet.  It is helpful to have it all there to read.
Thank you.
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« Reply #832 on: March 05, 2009, 11:14:37 PM »



Great, great job, Janet!  Kyle's words do paint quite a picture. 

    

Justice for Natalee!  We will not go away!  They have to give her back!
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« Reply #833 on: March 05, 2009, 11:15:09 PM »

Janet!Nothing but the words of Kyle Kingman!Great work!
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« Reply #834 on: March 05, 2009, 11:15:30 PM »

Janet,

Great work!  Thank you!  
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« Reply #835 on: March 05, 2009, 11:23:25 PM »

 

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Papiamentu translation:

mother iresponsable child owing to come cocaina

yesterday morning one mother owing to arrive cu his child of 2 year at sitting-room of emergencia of dr. horacio the. oduber hospital, cu the participacion cu his child owing to come one saco of cocaina. the mother was bao cry, saying cu his child, for one descuido, owing to arrive at some saquito of cocaina, cu is pertenece n’e parents y owing to come one of they.

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con can is possible? baby of 2 year owing to come one saquito of cocaina parents have to carga responsabilidad for thing owing to sosode

yesterday morning one mother owing to arrive cu his child of 2 year at sitting-room of emergencia of dr. horacio the. oduber hospital, cu the participacion cu his child owing to come one saco of cocaina. the mother was bao cry, saying cu his child, for one descuido, owing to arrive at some saquito of cocaina, cu is pertenece n’e parents y owing to come one of they. police also owing to being avisa of the caso here, while cu dokternan owing to cuminsa cu labamento of stomach of the baby, for evita cu the will can die of overdosis of drugs. one of the first question cu owing to surgi is, what touch in the cas ey, one cantidad of saco of cocaina? is dificil believe cu this is for own usage, or in the cas here will have business of drugs, for cual police now is haciendo the investigacion. also miembronan of recherche owing to present at hospital, where they owing to cuminsa interroga the mother, that have to pour abao now, what touch the drugs in cas y of that the is. can owing to see one desesperacion on the cara of the mother, y more late, we owing to being informa cu the baby is for of danger y cu the personal of sitting-room of emergencia of dr. horacio the. oduber hospital owing to haci one good trabao, salbando life of the child of 2 year here. investigacion of part of recherche have to bay determina, of that y where the drugs here was.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #836 on: March 05, 2009, 11:24:52 PM »

Tremendous, Janet!!! Thank-you! 
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« Reply #837 on: March 05, 2009, 11:25:23 PM »

Some still tend to believe the Jan 7th images were photoshopped!

Those people have drank too much of the KOOL-AID and eaten too many blood stained chocolate bars.
They probably beieve that Kyle was lying in all of his posts, too.

 


 
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« Reply #838 on: March 05, 2009, 11:26:04 PM »

Thanks Magnolia and Anna.

The quotes were all on the SM Site or Kyle's blogs ... it was just a matter of compiling Kyle's own words in an order that told of the deception of the Persistence.

To tell the truth ... I had worked very hard to day articulating introductions to each part.  However ... DIL was a little leary when you consider there are those "out there" who would twist my words and ... claim I defamed John Silvetti.

Well ... I will be gone tomorrow.  Seven year old grandaughter is in an inter-school public speaking contest tomorrow.  I will be watching her do her thing while Papa is teacher on call (TOC) for home schooled older brother.  Mom will be attending a field trip with younger brother.  While Dad is away (pilot) ... Mom sometimes gets somewhat overwhelmed.

It's crazy!

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« Reply #839 on: March 05, 2009, 11:27:36 PM »

Tremendous, Janet!!! Thank-you! 

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