Natalee Case Discussion #762 6/30 - 7/6/08

[SS]

Thanks SS, but does that mean if he makes the final descision, can Joran and the others be brought back in or not????

I don't know.  I'm sure it would be possible if enough new evidence were to be presented.  We can only hope so.  DTKM is the one who supposedly knows all of the details of what went on and he's the one who fixed the coverup.  We were told that he is very powerful and everyone is afraid of him.  He calls all of the shots.

[always 1]

Ok, well thanks CAPS for your answers.  And thank you Klass for helping me again.

[Destiny]

dialuna 11 Juni, 2007 solo di pueblo reference

Mr. Frans van Deutekom
(Officier van Justitie)
7.00 – 8.30 p.m


http://tinyurl.com/5t98mp

Quote from email from Aruba last week...Destiny

Hi xxxxxxx;

In Joran's book he write about Freddy, who he is and who are the parents. But I don't have the book anymore because I have lent somebody the book and he doesn't return it to me yet.

THe man Deutekom is a important person in the justice of Aruba (a fiscal) but I don't know if we have picture of him. If I find one I will send it to you. I keep looking at other names. I let you know.

 

Bye

xxxxxxxx

[Destiny]

I thought Karen was sleeping with him...gosh that guy gets around. 

Can you actually even imagine sleeping with Paulass? (I didn't say that did I?)

You would need *Janitor in a Drum* Douche to clean up....

Destiny

[Helen Back]

So Julia is tangled up with Deutekom?

Do I need a breath mint?

 

[Destiny]

He is also looking to get in touch with old school chums!

http://tinyurl.com/5bsqws

Carpe Sweetums....Let's get in touch with his old school chums too!!!!

We have so very much to *share* with them.....

Destiny

[carpe noctem]

CAPS does that mean he was there when the boys were let go and does that mean it is written in stone (so to speak) can the charges be levied against them or not???

Yes, He is the weakest link...since he thinks he was not involved, but he was there....I can say for sure 100%...he was there that night... he is the one that will call the shots.

like any move there is a script, in the case of Natalee time was essential to write a perfect script.

Compare simple case of Maduro vs Hendrick.... he twisted the stories eventhough there are all proef.

Now to establish the proedf he needed 2 witness to go against Maduro (he took 2 Dutch cops) not arubians cops.

The Technical department investigators report show conclusive that he hit Maduro with the car but he argue that he has witness statement that the casr was slowing down and so he could not hit maduro that hard....LOL

but the Judge follows the TEchnical investigators report and so is this story like a movie that Madura is the one that is lying.

in he case of Natalee the time was needed to cover all corners with simple finding a withness that say that they look like the person he saw bu he is not sure. Now to make things go is way, there should be a fall guy and for how long. Well the rotten apple from holland did his home work and manipulated the system to protect someone in the same line of work, The Government, and the system at all Cost.

So how do we get to the truth? 

It is the Gov't and the System he wanted to protect AT ALL COST, right?

Well, then we need to make it AT ALL COST.

We should keep blasting, and blasting, and blasting, and blasting...

Hopefully, Peter R. De Vries will keep blasting, and blasting, and blasting...

until they can't take it one more day. AT ALL COST

Brute force is the only thing these people understand.

We need to help them with that. Whatever it takes!

[carpe noctem]

He is also looking to get in touch with old school chums!

http://tinyurl.com/5bsqws

Carpe Sweetums....Let's get in touch with his old school chums too!!!!

We have so very much to *share* with them.....

Destiny

 

[klaasend]

Capslock - Let me ask your personal opinion.  Could Karen Janssen and Jan van der Straten have wanted to do the RIGHT thing but could they have been stopped by Deutekom?  Were their hands tied by Deutekom?

[Destiny]

Rob...I am *ready* for that Dr. Phil Attrny phone number...if you can't get it for me...please let me know ...so I can try another avenue...TIA...and huggiepoos....

Des...

[caesu]

The Technical department investigators report show conclusive that he hit Maduro with the car but he argue that he has witness statement that the casr was slowing down and so he could not hit maduro that hard....LOL

Isn't that like shooting someone just a little? LOL 

this should show for everyone how corrupt this OM actually is.

OM asked 1 week sentence for Croes.
OM asked 4 months for Maduro AND 160 hours community service.

both conditional, so they won't have to serve time if they don't make another offense.
for Croes 2 years probation, for Maduro 3.

every Aruban can now fear for his live.
the Croes brothers can go on rampage through the island.
and anyone who files a complaint doesn't get justice but gets a prison term requested for them by the OM.

if Maduro has to go to prison i doubt the police force and the other Arubans are going accept that without protest.

but then if Maduro won't get a prison term Croes will file a lawsuit against him.

you do want to read the translation of this article tomorrow:
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_44138.php

this was the reaction by Croes, published already yesterday:
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_44111.php (in english)

[Destiny]

Thanks SS, but does that mean if he makes the final descision, can Joran and the others be brought back in or not????

I don't know.  I'm sure it would be possible if enough new evidence were to be presented.  We can only hope so.  DTKM is the one who supposedly knows all of the details of what went on and he's the one who fixed the coverup.  We were told that he is very powerful and everyone is afraid of him.  He calls all of the shots.

And probably divies out the pay-offs too....

[Destiny]

The Technical department investigators report show conclusive that he hit Maduro with the car but he argue that he has witness statement that the casr was slowing down and so he could not hit maduro that hard....LOL

Isn't that like shooting someone just a little? LOL 

this should show for everyone how corrupt this OM actually is.

OM asked 1 week sentence for Croes.
OM asked 4 months for Maduro AND 160 hours community service.

both conditional, so they won't have to serve time if they don't make another offense.
for Croes 2 years probation, for Maduro 3.

every Aruban can now fear for his live.
the Croes brothers can go on rampage through the island.
and anyone who files a complaint doesn't get justice but gets a prison term requested for them by the OM.

if Maduro has to go to prison i doubt the police force and the other Arubans are going accept that without protest.

but then if Maduro won't get a prison term Croes will file a lawsuit against him.

you do want to read the translation of this article tomorrow:
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_44138.php

this was the reaction by Croes, published already yesterday:
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_44111.php (in english)

Or...just a little bit pregnant....

[Destiny]

Capslock - Let me ask your personal opinion.  Could Karen Janssen and Jan van der Straten have wanted to do the RIGHT thing but could they have been stopped by Deutekom?  Were their hands tied by Deutekom?

Klaas...I'm thinking along the same lines with you....BTW can you, or anyone else tell me how to pronounce his name...Deutekom...correctly?   TIA..

Destiny...phonetically would work just fine...

[Destiny]

CAPS....Fantastick...just really Wonderful investigative work...KUDOS!!!!!

Destiny

[carpe noctem]

I'm probably wrong...


...but I have been calling him    > DOOTIE - CUM   

[Destiny]

I'm probably wrong...


...but I have been calling him    > DOOTIE - CUM   

You wicked...wicked...man....Lova Ya Sweetums

[texasmom]

The Technical department investigators report show conclusive that he hit Maduro with the car but he argue that he has witness statement that the casr was slowing down and so he could not hit maduro that hard....LOL

Isn't that like shooting someone just a little? LOL 

this should show for everyone how corrupt this OM actually is.

OM asked 1 week sentence for Croes.
OM asked 4 months for Maduro AND 160 hours community service.

both conditional, so they won't have to serve time if they don't make another offense.
for Croes 2 years probation, for Maduro 3.

every Aruban can now fear for his live.
the Croes brothers can go on rampage through the island.
and anyone who files a complaint doesn't get justice but gets a prison term requested for them by the OM.

if Maduro has to go to prison i doubt the police force and the other Arubans are going accept that without protest.

but then if Maduro won't get a prison term Croes will file a lawsuit against him.

you do want to read the translation of this article tomorrow:
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_44138.php

this was the reaction by Croes, published already yesterday:
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_44111.php (in english)

Thanks Caesu!  I agree with you, and appreciate the links!

[klaasend]

Capslock - Let me ask your personal opinion.  Could Karen Janssen and Jan van der Straten have wanted to do the RIGHT thing but could they have been stopped by Deutekom?  Were their hands tied by Deutekom?

Klaas...I'm thinking along the same lines with you....BTW can you, or anyone else tell me how to pronounce his name...Deutekom...correctly?   TIA..

Destiny...phonetically would work just fine...

I would guess at:  Dootcom or Dootcome

[SS]

I thought Karen was sleeping with him...gosh that guy gets around. 

Can you actually even imagine sleeping with Paulass? (I didn't say that did I?)

You would need *Janitor in a Drum* Douche to clean up....

Destiny