Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006

[Carnut]

I was hoping somebody would find record of Joran stating that he picked up Paulus at the airport, etc. as I am almost certain we hared that from a source of either Joran or Julia, one of the Sloot team.

Has to be to distance Paulus from such activities.  Wonder what went on the other nights Anita was away?

Anna, it was very early on and it was posted by someone in Aruba in one of the blogs or forums.  It might have originated either here or at RWV.

Well, I know for sure it was discussed at RWV, but I still maintain it was one of the first explanations by JVDS in the Greta interview.

[SunFreak2]

So PAULUS was not in Holland with Anita.  WHY did someone make a point of making us think that he was?  Why was that important?

So we wouldn't connect him & his dirty old men's club pals

Exactly.  There has to be a reason why we were lead to believe he was out of town with Anita while the MB kids were in Aruba.

Yes, but he were told he was in town on that Sunday/Monday when she disappeared. We were told he went to the poker tourny with Joran.  Then we saw the casino shots.  Why was it important to cover Paulus's butt prior to the tournament?

[robots]

ARUBA, the Scum of the Earth

had no idea this was going to affect their paradise from hell island in the manner it has. some think the country and tourism is just fine, HA
what a load of BS that is.

but because they didnt realize it was going to be as bad as it is

they just kept going down and down and down and down

too far down the road to turn back, but they are so stupid they will drag the whole country down with them

aruba is not only EVIL but stupid as well

[Anna]

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Ah, Klaas,
I keep forgetting about the "decoys" too!

I have wondered if Paulus is also in charge of visas in any way.  Like the 400 illegal ones issued by Rudy Croes for the "exotic Dancers" as that might well be something the NL would frown upon in conferring on him the title of judge with such a thing in his record.

Wonder how much they charged for those in addition to the legal amount?  At $1000 apiece, well, we can all do the math.  And once in the system, it is likely Holland that would or could end up paying the bills on lots of these just as with illegals in this country.  Has to annoy the NL since Aruba rufuses to give an accounting of their funds, even those given by the NL to them.

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[SunFreak2]

I think there has been only one reason for all the lies from the suspects, witnesses, Aruban spokespeople, & the darkside bloggers. To confuse the story so no one person can be found guity beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[robots]

paulus is nothing but walking -talking -STALKING  LOAD of BS


paulus is a SWEAT MACHINE

its called NERVOUS from GUILT

 

[robots]

i think the reason they have all the cash is because they STEAL it

they steal it at the poker tables

they use hand signals with dealers and their CRONIES at the tables

when you cheat at a poker table it is called STEALING in my book

[nonesuche]

So PAULUS was not in Holland with Anita.  WHY did someone make a point of making us think that he was?  Why was that important?

So we wouldn't connect him & his dirty old men's club pals

That's what I was going to say.

Me too.

Thank you for the transcript San, off to bed with me, everyone rest well!

[Anna]

i think the reason they have all the cash is because they STEAL it

they steal it at the poker tables

they use hand signals with dealers and their CRONIES at the tables

when you cheat at a poker table it is called STEALING in my book

Deepak did report a tourist complaining that Joran was cheating the night the Alabama Delegation arrived.  I have wondered about that and about Guido being involved in some sort of scheme.

[SunFreak2]

Wonder how much they charged for those in addition to the legal amount?  At $1000 apiece, well, we can all do the math.  And once in the system, it is likely Holland that would or could end up paying the bills on lots of these just as with illegals in this country.  Has to annoy the NL since Aruba rufuses to give an accounting of their funds, even those given by the NL to them.

Why doesn't the NL just dump Aruba as one of their protectorates or whatever they call the Netherlands Antilles?  It seems Aruba is just shaming them and draining money from them.  I doubt if Aruba ever gave them one dime of the profits from tourism. Or perhaps tt's a symbiotic relationship and the NL needs them to tranship their drugs in & out, and launder their dirty money too.

What bothers me the most about Aruba's judicial system is that it is based on the one in the NL's which is also the basis of the world court.  Look at what happened in the Milosevic trial where they dragged their feet so long, the defendent died in prison.  But yet, they are trying to expedite this case for the vd Sloots.

[justinsmama]

Sunfreak-

I wasn't challenging you with my post regarding the truth of Boxtel Freeway, I thought perhaps you didn't have the full story, that's all. I do think the parents of Joran avoided disciplining him and as a parent, I know what that entails and of a "sporter" physically larger than you are. It's not easy, it requires you be very hands-on and persistent and consistent. If we don't start holding some parents accountable I fear our society will have increasing problems.

I also think highly of you and your opinions, so hopefully we can agree to disagree on parts of this and agree on others?

Will have? That boat has already sailed.

None and Car are right. It is literally a weary experience nearly every day in this household to set limits, and provide appropriate consequences when those limits are not adhered to by Justin. It would be easy to give in!  And God knows that there are times that I want to do so. I would be remiss as a parent should I take that route. I love my son too much to do that to him. He would suffer as an adult should I not do my job now. My youngest sister, the "baby" of our family, went through hell as a young adult from our father's permissiveness and our mother just being worn out by the time the fifth one hit adolesence. My sister found that the rest of the world expected far more of her than our parents did. She railed against those expectations for several years. Luckily, something must have been built into her foundation, as she finally saw the light and has been a responsible adult for a long while now.

[klaasend]

So PAULUS was not in Holland with Anita.  WHY did someone make a point of making us think that he was?  Why was that important?

So we wouldn't connect him & his dirty old men's club pals

Exactly.  There has to be a reason why we were lead to believe he was out of town with Anita while the MB kids were in Aruba.

Yes, but he were told he was in town on that Sunday/Monday when she disappeared. We were told he went to the poker tourny with Joran.  Then we saw the casino shots.  Why was it important to cover Paulus's butt prior to the tournament?

Yes, but back in the beginning we were told he had just arrived back in Aruba around 4:40 or 5pm on May 29th.

[robots]

LET me do a little TRANSLATING
 


To your question whether Joran went to school on Monday
May 30th 2005, I can state the following. I cannot precisely recollect
whether Joran went to school that day. It is possible that he did not
go to school that day.


"um,,,,errr.. ahhh....errrr  if i say he did not go to school that day it will look very bad for FRANKENJORAN if i say he did not go to school SO i will say that i cant remember much of anything"
       

[klaasend]

I was hoping somebody would find record of Joran stating that he picked up Paulus at the airport, etc. as I am almost certain we hared that from a source of either Joran or Julia, one of the Sloot team.

Has to be to distance Paulus from such activities.  Wonder what went on the other nights Anita was away?

Anna, it was very early on and it was posted by someone in Aruba in one of the blogs or forums.  It might have originated either here or at RWV.

Well, I know for sure it was discussed at RWV, but I still maintain it was one of the first explanations by JVDS in the Greta interview.

Just checked the Greta interview and he doesn't mention his dad, only lhis mom being in Holland.

[robots]

i think the reason they have all the cash is because they STEAL it

they steal it at the poker tables

they use hand signals with dealers and their CRONIES at the tables

when you cheat at a poker table it is called STEALING in my book

Deepak did report a tourist complaining that Joran was cheating the night the Alabama Delegation arrived.  I have wondered about that and about Guido being involved in some sort of scheme.

YEP, dont try it in vegas

but in ARUBA when the whole casino is in on it against a bunch of Teenage tourists...

its like SHOOTING FISH in a BARREL

[Carnut]

So PAULUS was not in Holland with Anita.  WHY did someone make a point of making us think that he was?  Why was that important?

So we wouldn't connect him & his dirty old men's club pals

Exactly.  There has to be a reason why we were lead to believe he was out of town with Anita while the MB kids were in Aruba.

Yes, but he were told he was in town on that Sunday/Monday when she disappeared. We were told he went to the poker tourny with Joran.  Then we saw the casino shots.  Why was it important to cover Paulus's butt prior to the tournament?

Yes, but back in the beginning we were told he had just arrived back in Aruba around 4:40 or 5pm on May 29th.

Well, now just because PVDS statement says he stayed in aruba dosen't necessarily make it so.

[Carnut]

I was hoping somebody would find record of Joran stating that he picked up Paulus at the airport, etc. as I am almost certain we hared that from a source of either Joran or Julia, one of the Sloot team.

Has to be to distance Paulus from such activities.  Wonder what went on the other nights Anita was away?

Anna, it was very early on and it was posted by someone in Aruba in one of the blogs or forums.  It might have originated either here or at RWV.

Well, I know for sure it was discussed at RWV, but I still maintain it was one of the first explanations by JVDS in the Greta interview.

Just checked the Greta interview and he doesn't mention his dad, only lhis mom being in Holland.

Ok, guess my memory fails me, sure thought I saw it there.

[Kat_Gram]

Nice to see our board jumping again like this! I have been on several nights where I post and then sit back and listen to the crickets.

You got Crickets?

I ate a cricket yeaterday. Crunchy.

[San]

GOODNIGHT EVERYONE

[SunFreak2]

paulus is a SWEAT MACHINE

its called NERVOUS from GUILT

 

I think Paulus's sweating is why Aruba is flooding.  It's not rain, it's sweat.