Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 - 3/13/10

[carpe noctem]

Julia Renfro This confession was given nearly a year ago. The OM investigated it with the cooperation of forensic scientists from the Netherlands, the declared his taped account of what happened a fantasy... didn't and couldn't have happened that way. SO, the question is, why is RTL going to air a "Fantasy" of what didn't happen to Natalee? When they know that there is no evidence?
Tue at 9:06pm


Doesnt matter ho-bag. Joran keeps talking, story keeps moving along.

Certainly I would think you could snatch a firm grasp on that concept by now, my dear.

5 years... and as long as Sporter keeps moving the chains.... Aruba will keep taking it

in the banana boat. 

Wubs woo - mean it.

Tiring... isnt it?

[Anna]

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/miMedia/2010/week08/Fri16.joranbekent.xml

vid of Joran

[EURobert]

Here btw is a link to the Dutch satirical blog GeenStijl.nl. On the Telegraaf article this morning.
Hope you can see the funny stuff of that - translated - post: http://tinyurl.com/yda785y

[Kermit]

Just in SBS6 Shownews the first images of the interview JvdS with TerrorJaap: Joran crying... and crying... and crying...
Makes me curious. Can he 'act' that?

Does a bear poo poo in the woods
 

Well, he had the time to prepare, so...

Here a link to the preview: http://www.shownieuws.tv/web/show/id=186479/langid=43/contentid=148846

Oh, they cut out the images of Joran crying; probably because of the copyright. The interviewed guy also says he thinks there will not be very much left of Natalee's remains; "the van der Kouwes-girl was found after a couple of weeks and only little was left of her body".

So has Joran agreed to show them where he put her body yet?

I haven't heard anything like that. I'm afraid Joran knows that if he tells them where they can find the body they will find GHB, semen of different people and other stuff that will implicate them, as well!

 

But he basically implicates and tells the name of his accomplice, house, etc because in that other article those reporters, John go online and check out this accomplice. Deepak said that they dropped him at the beach. So how does this fit Deepak & Satish's statements if they all went to a party at this friends house?

Something doesn't make sense to me.

[jen3560]

Few points on Buckeye's article from the last page.

1. Can't be Lorenzo - his father is dead. This person has a living father - or did in 05.

2. Astrid did not move in October of 05 - she moved later - in 06 if I recall correctly.

3. Looks like Freddy to some extent because of the two houses.

4. why do these people not just bark out the name and keep playing the initial game?

5. blood on pavement - and blood other places - and no one noticed this?

Didn't Koen have an apartment, in town?  Maybe a second "family" home? 

Whose father also posts a lot of online pics?

 

And who is this witness who has an online blog?

[jen3560]

Andre Santos has a brother and a sister.???

And his father was in the picture back in 2005.

[jen3560]

OK so what we have so far:

1 - 20 yr old Aruban
2 - Drug dealer in the hotels
3 - At his father's house
4 - Mother alibied him
5 - Gave 2 witness statements
6 - Blood below his balcony
7 - Blood in his car
8 - Name (either first or last) begins with A
9 - Disposal in Bubali Bird Sanctuary - from the only entrance to it there is, walked as far as they could

How many statements did Freddy give?

Freddie Alexander Arambatzis
June 12, 2005 11:05
pages 5
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Juan Boezem
description: witness statement of JVDS neighbor/friend

Freddie Alexander Arambatzis
June 13, 2005 17:00
pages 5
writer: Johny Erasmus
description: witness statement

Freddie Alexander Arambatzis
June 16, 2005 15:30
pages 8
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Marcelino Ras
description: witness statement

Freddy Zedan
June 17, 2005
pages 6
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Freddie Alexander Zedan Arambatzis
June 28, 2005 14:25
pages 11
writer: Shaniro Kelly/Haydee Nadal
description: witness statement

Freddy Zedan Arrambatzis
July 1, 2005
pages 9
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Haydee Azucena
description: witness statement

Wasn't Freddy's mother the supervisor of the Bulbai Sanctuary?

Mmmmmmmmm this is really stretching my memory, but I thought she worked at that hotel that had recently closed?  Alegro or something?  And was currently unemployed?

[Kermit]

Here btw is a link to the Dutch satirical blog GeenStijl.nl. On the Telegraaf article this morning.
Hope you can see the funny stuff of that - translated - post: http://tinyurl.com/yda785y

Thank you EURobert for helping with your posts. That is very interesting.

[Anna]

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/miMedia/2010/week08/Fri16.joranbekent.xml

Vid with Dutch reporter showing the house!

[klaasend]

I was having a problem watching the video on the Dutch website, it kept buffering, so I copied it and put it in photobucket.  Here is the preview of the Jaap interview with Joran:

[Kermit]

Wasn't Freddy's mother the supervisor of the Bulbai Sanctuary?

Mmmmmmmmm this is really stretching my memory, but I thought she worked at that hotel that had recently closed?  Alegro or something?  And was currently unemployed?
[/quote]

BLONDE if you're around - you probably have that information. Didn't Freddy's mom work as a supervisor at the Bulbai - was it the Bulbai racquet club or sanctuary?

[carpe noctem]

Here btw is a link to the Dutch satirical blog GeenStijl.nl. On the Telegraaf article this morning.
Hope you can see the funny stuff of that - translated - post: http://tinyurl.com/yda785y

Thank you EURobert for helping with your posts. That is very interesting.

I stand with the frog!

Big thank you to you EURobert for all you contribute.

[EURobert]

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/miMedia/2010/week08/Fri16.joranbekent.xml

vid of Joran

"... The OM (publ.pros.) will search the marsh only when Joran points to the exact spot where he dumped Natalee's body ..."

[klaasend]

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/miMedia/2010/week08/Fri16.joranbekent.xml

Vid with Dutch reporter showing the house!

Anna - I can't watch that video, it shuts down on me.  I've posted the first one I saw but I don't see the house it in?

[Kermit]

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/miMedia/2010/week08/Fri16.joranbekent.xml

vid of Joran

Thank you Anna, I'm watching now.

[klaasend]

Andre Santos has a brother and a sister.???

And his father was in the picture back in 2005.

Yes and it's Andre Dos Santos. 

[Anna]

Klaas, the house is just in the second video.  Then the reporter actually wades out in the swamp!  I think the site is too busy right now.

[Tamikosmom]

Aruba Prosecutor: Hundreds Questioned in Natalee Holloway Case
Thursday, April 27, 2006

Police have said nothing about their latest arrest, of a 20-year-old man, identified by prosecutors by the initials A.B. He was released after six hours of interrogation on Saturday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,193408,00.html

A.B. was arrested and questioned in April, 2006.  According to the Dr. Phil log ... Freddy was not interrogated in April, 2006.

Janet

++++++


PRIVILEGE LOG: CONTENTS OF ARUBAN COUNSEL'S CRIMINALL FILE

Kalpoe v. McGraw, et al.
Case Number: BC3 63401

Name: loran van der Sloot & Freddy Arambatzis
Date; 13 June 2005118:30
Pages: 2
Writer/lnitiator: Dennis Jacobs I Juan Boezem
Description: transcript of a face to face meeting

Name: Freddy Alexander Arambatzis
Date: 12 June 2005 / 11:05
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs & Juan Boezem
Description: witness statement of Joran van der Sloot's neighbor/friend

Name: Freddy Alexander Arambaizis
Date: 13 June 2005 / 17:00
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator. Johny Erasmus
Description: witness statement

+ Name: Freddy Alexander Arambatzis
Date: 16 June 2005115:30
Pages: 8
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs & Marcelino Ras
Description: witness statement

Name: Freddy Alexander Zedan Arambatzis
Date:28 June 2005 / 14:25
Pages: 11
Writer/Initiator: Shaniro Kelly & Haydee Nadal
Description: witness statement

Name: Freddy Zedan Arrambatzis
Date: 1 July 2005
Pages: 9
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs & Haydee Azucena
Description: witness statement

Name: Freddy Zedan Arrambatzis
Date:20 July 2005
Pages: 4
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs, Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Name: Freddy Alenxander Arambatzis
Date: 10 February 2006/17:15
63
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs /Eric Soemers
Description: interrogation of a suspect
Responsive to Request 41

[EURobert]

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/miMedia/2010/week08/Fri16.joranbekent.xml

Vid with Dutch reporter showing the house!

Anna - I can't watch that video, it shuts down on me.  I've posted the first one I saw but I don't see the house it in?

There are now three different clips of the show posted in the 'catalogue'.

[Blonde]

OK so what we have so far:

1 - 20 yr old Aruban
2 - Drug dealer in the hotels
3 - At his father's house
4 - Mother alibied him
5 - Gave 2 witness statements
6 - Blood below his balcony
7 - Blood in his car
8 - Name (either first or last) begins with A
9 - Disposal in Bubali Bird Sanctuary - from the only entrance to it there is, walked as far as they could

How many statements did Freddy give?

Freddie Alexander Arambatzis
June 12, 2005 11:05
pages 5
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Juan Boezem
description: witness statement of JVDS neighbor/friend

Freddie Alexander Arambatzis
June 13, 2005 17:00
pages 5
writer: Johny Erasmus
description: witness statement

Freddie Alexander Arambatzis
June 16, 2005 15:30
pages 8
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Marcelino Ras
description: witness statement

Freddy Zedan
June 17, 2005
pages 6
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Freddie Alexander Zedan Arambatzis
June 28, 2005 14:25
pages 11
writer: Shaniro Kelly/Haydee Nadal
description: witness statement

Freddy Zedan Arrambatzis
July 1, 2005
pages 9
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Haydee Azucena
description: witness statement

Wasn't Freddy's mother the supervisor of the Bulbai Sanctuary?

ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT LILIAN REGINA MONTANJA 39-F


Freddy's mom is a "Supervisory Director" for the Bubali Sports Club located in Noord. Bubali is also the location of the Bird Sanctuary which has 2 ponds.
Here is the complete name of Freddy's mom: Freddy's mom is a "Supervisory Director" for the Bubali Sports Club located in Noord. Bubali is also the location of the Bird Sanctuary which has 2 ponds.
Here is the complete name of Freddy's mom:
LILIAN REGINA ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT
It appears that she has been married twice. I don't know if Rodriguez or Albert is her maiden name. Since she is listed as being "Dutch" I would think that "Albert" was probably her maiden name....but, I am not sure. Can anybody help me out on this?
I have always thought "Zedan" was Freddy's last name until I found this other info. Could it be his middle name?
You can find this information at:
http://206.48.100.138/registry/registry_search.afp
Type in: S.C. BUBALI where it says TRADE NAME & then click search.