Natalee Case Discussion #745 3/25 - 4/4/08

[klaasend]

This is certainly only my opinion and if it is inappropriate, please feel free to delete.  I don't know a lot about posting at forums, actually I don't know ANYTHING about posting.  I just know that I have followed this case from the very start and it broke my heart and filled me with such outrage at the injustice of it all.  I don't feel like I am part of the SM group but I feel comfortable here reading and learning.  I have read at other forums and one in particular is filled with such hate and venom for Natalee and her family that it sickens me to read there.  I just can't believe some of the vile things said there and don't understand how anyone could possibly feel that way about Natalee and her family since they are the victims in this situation. 

Just the fact that Joran and PVDs said they "know more but won't tell it now because it would hurt certain people".  Unbelievable!!  A young woman is missing/murdered, her family is devasted, and the Sloots are worried about hurting certain people!  WHO?  WHO CARES!  This family has been HURT beyond comprehension.  Not one of the suspects has been held accountable for any of their lies and actions.  People think Beth has acted inappropriately.  Give me a break.  Beth and Dave, etal, have done exactly what all parents should do - FIGHT LIKE HELL FOR JUSTICE FOR THEIR DAUGHTER!

Just my opinion - like I said you can delete if you want - I don't know where to post what so this might not even be the place to post the above comments. 

Thanks for letting me vent 




 

BRAVO!!  Post of the day!  I agree with you 100%!

[San]

This is certainly only my opinion and if it is inappropriate, please feel free to delete.  I don't know a lot about posting at forums, actually I don't know ANYTHING about posting.  I just know that I have followed this case from the very start and it broke my heart and filled me with such outrage at the injustice of it all.  I don't feel like I am part of the SM group but I feel comfortable here reading and learning.  I have read at other forums and one in particular is filled with such hate and venom for Natalee and her family that it sickens me to read there.  I just can't believe some of the vile things said there and don't understand how anyone could possibly feel that way about Natalee and her family since they are the victims in this situation. 

Just the fact that Joran and PVDs said they "know more but won't tell it now because it would hurt certain people".  Unbelievable!!  A young woman is missing/murdered, her family is devasted, and the Sloots are worried about hurting certain people!  WHO?  WHO CARES!  This family has been HURT beyond comprehension.  Not one of the suspects has been held accountable for any of their lies and actions.  People think Beth has acted inappropriately.  Give me a break.  Beth and Dave, etal, have done exactly what all parents should do - FIGHT LIKE HELL FOR JUSTICE FOR THEIR DAUGHTER!

Just my opinion - like I said you can delete if you want - I don't know where to post what so this might not even be the place to post the above comments. 

Thanks for letting me vent 

No need to delete your post it's fine.

The people who said Beth acted inappropriately were the ones who murdered her daughter and covered up the crime.

Acting inappropriately to me is when Beth was sitting in the Sloot's home and that fat skank Anita Van der Sloot was describing what her son did to her daugher knowing damn well that Natalee was dead.

[Tamikosmom]

This is certainly only my opinion and if it is inappropriate, please feel free to delete.  I don't know a lot about posting at forums, actually I don't know ANYTHING about posting.  I just know that I have followed this case from the very start and it broke my heart and filled me with such outrage at the injustice of it all.  I don't feel like I am part of the SM group but I feel comfortable here reading and learning.  I have read at other forums and one in particular is filled with such hate and venom for Natalee and her family that it sickens me to read there.  I just can't believe some of the vile things said there and don't understand how anyone could possibly feel that way about Natalee and her family since they are the victims in this situation. 

Just the fact that Joran and PVDs said they "know more but won't tell it now because it would hurt certain people".  Unbelievable!!  A young woman is missing/murdered, her family is devasted, and the Sloots are worried about hurting certain people!  WHO?  WHO CARES!  This family has been HURT beyond comprehension.  Not one of the suspects has been held accountable for any of their lies and actions.  People think Beth has acted inappropriately.  Give me a break.  Beth and Dave, etal, have done exactly what all parents should do - FIGHT LIKE HELL FOR JUSTICE FOR THEIR DAUGHTER!

Just my opinion - like I said you can delete if you want - I don't know where to post what so this might not even be the place to post the above comments. 

Thanks for letting me vent 
 

KYcat ... thank you for your heartfelt post.

Janet

[Buckeye]

KYcat

I hear you and share the same emotions.

[GBMW]

Hi Janet,

when you 'read around' there are posts that Beth / the family lied, manipulated...well just about everything .
To give you an example...a recent thing: if Jorans confession is true in general (which she believes) why isn't Beth 'mad' at Daury but seems to express anger only towards Joran in interviews?

Daury is the one that dumped Natalee in the ocean; and in that way the possible murderer of Natalee. Of course Joran was the one that was with Natalee and didn't get help; he started the whole cover up & lied about it for years - made money of it...

But Daury is the one who disposed of Natalee....the one that actually threw her daughter in the ocean while Joran was walking home / chatting / downloading porn. And yet she doesn't mention any anger in her recent press towards him. She did state in the Peter R. de Vries show 'Look at what they've done' but after this it seems she stayed quiet concerning Daury.....


Maybe she's only doing this because Joran is the only one she knows the true identity of and the one who holds a big responsibility...maybe she doubts the Daurypart in the confession...could all be...but it seems a bit weird.

GBMW ... why do you have to analysis Beth's reaction.  Can you not just give this anguished mother the benefit of the doubt that her response has a foundation.

Joran was in a position to get help for her daughter who was in distress.  What did he do?  He call on an unknown assistance with a boat to take her out to sea and dump her.  In otherwords ... a hitman.

It makes perfect sense to me that Beth's anger would be focused on Joran.  Joran put the chain of events into motion that led to Natalee's death ... Natalee's disappearance.

Janet


++++++++++++

Holloway Suspect: 'I Know What Happened'
Dutch Student Said Natalee Holloway's Body Was Dumped in the Ocean
February 3, 2008

In one taped conversation, van der Sloot told van der Eem that Holloway visibly convulsed "like a movie," that she was shaking "a lot."
 
"Did you try CPR on her?" asked van der Eem.
 
"Of course, I tried everything," van der Sloot said. "I tried to shake her. I was shaking the bitch. I was like, 'What is wrong with you man?' I almost wanted to cry. Why does this s*** have to happen to me?"

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4222253&page

Hi Janet,
you asked for the things that make me wonder a bit sometimes. I gave you an example...that's all. I haven't thought of Beth / Natalee's family in any other way then they are the victims. To me it's about what happened to Natalee and who's responsible for what happened to her (I don't believe she committed suicide). Her family & friends deserve to know this & those responsible for her fate deserve to be held accountable for their actions.

[hotping]

KYcat...You are Definitely a MONKEY...Your above post proves that to Me....Thank You for saying what IMO is felt by Most of the MONKEYS  YOU ROCK! 

[Tamikosmom]

Hi Janet,

when you 'read around' there are posts that Beth / the family lied, manipulated...well just about everything .
To give you an example...a recent thing: if Jorans confession is true in general (which she believes) why isn't Beth 'mad' at Daury but seems to express anger only towards Joran in interviews?

Daury is the one that dumped Natalee in the ocean; and in that way the possible murderer of Natalee. Of course Joran was the one that was with Natalee and didn't get help; he started the whole cover up & lied about it for years - made money of it...

But Daury is the one who disposed of Natalee....the one that actually threw her daughter in the ocean while Joran was walking home / chatting / downloading porn. And yet she doesn't mention any anger in her recent press towards him. She did state in the Peter R. de Vries show 'Look at what they've done' but after this it seems she stayed quiet concerning Daury.....


Maybe she's only doing this because Joran is the only one she knows the true identity of and the one who holds a big responsibility...maybe she doubts the Daurypart in the confession...could all be...but it seems a bit weird.

GBMW ... why do you have to analysis Beth's reaction.  Can you not just give this anguished mother the benefit of the doubt that her response has a foundation.

Joran was in a position to get help for her daughter who was in distress.  What did he do?  He call on an unknown assistance with a boat to take her out to sea and dump her.  In otherwords ... a hitman.

It makes perfect sense to me that Beth's anger would be focused on Joran.  Joran put the chain of events into motion that led to Natalee's death ... Natalee's disappearance.

Janet


++++++++++++

Holloway Suspect: 'I Know What Happened'
Dutch Student Said Natalee Holloway's Body Was Dumped in the Ocean
February 3, 2008

In one taped conversation, van der Sloot told van der Eem that Holloway visibly convulsed "like a movie," that she was shaking "a lot."
 
"Did you try CPR on her?" asked van der Eem.
 
"Of course, I tried everything," van der Sloot said. "I tried to shake her. I was shaking the bitch. I was like, 'What is wrong with you man?' I almost wanted to cry. Why does this s*** have to happen to me?"

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4222253&page

Hi Janet,
you asked for the things that make me wonder a bit sometimes. I gave you an example...that's all. I haven't thought of Beth / Natalee's family in any other way then they are the victims. To me it's about what happened to Natalee and who's responsible for what happened to her (I don't believe she committed suicide). Her family & friends deserve to know this & those responsible for her fate deserve to be held accountable for their actions.

GBMW .... I sincerely apologize if I over reacted.

Janet

[KYcat]

Thank You  Monkeys.  A great big thank you for all your hard work and research.  The Monkeys have brought so much information out on this case that I otherwise would never have known about.  I don't know how y'all do it.  If I can ever contribute anything that will help the cause I will certainly post it.  But I appreciate just being able to read and learn here.  Thanks again. 

Oh, and I'm sure we will show up on that "other site".  They seem to take such joy from bashing anyone that supports Natalee and family. 

One more thing, if the "other site" is reading this.....  Beth has acted with the utmost graciousness throughout this whole nightmare.  As a mother of four children, I can tell you that I would NOT have been so gracious if this had happened to one of mine.  I would have already ripped their F..... faces off.  Take a poll on that ..........
 

[Tamikosmom]

Thank You  Monkeys.  A great big thank you for all your hard work and research.  The Monkeys have brought so much information out on this case that I otherwise would never have known about.  I don't know how y'all do it.  If I can ever contribute anything that will help the cause I will certainly post it.  But I appreciate just being able to read and learn here.  Thanks again. 

Oh, and I'm sure we will show up on that "other site".  They seem to take such joy from bashing anyone that supports Natalee and family. 

One more thing, if the "other site" is reading this.....  Beth has acted with the utmost graciousness throughout this whole nightmare.  As a mother of four children, I can tell you that I would NOT have been so gracious if this had happened to one of mine.  I would have already ripped their F..... faces off.  Take a poll on that ..........
 

 

Not my wording but ... my sentiments exactly.

Please post more often KYcat.  You are a Monkey through and through.

Janet

[GBMW]

Hi Janet,

when you 'read around' there are posts that Beth / the family lied, manipulated...well just about everything .
To give you an example...a recent thing: if Jorans confession is true in general (which she believes) why isn't Beth 'mad' at Daury but seems to express anger only towards Joran in interviews?

Daury is the one that dumped Natalee in the ocean; and in that way the possible murderer of Natalee. Of course Joran was the one that was with Natalee and didn't get help; he started the whole cover up & lied about it for years - made money of it...

But Daury is the one who disposed of Natalee....the one that actually threw her daughter in the ocean while Joran was walking home / chatting / downloading porn. And yet she doesn't mention any anger in her recent press towards him. She did state in the Peter R. de Vries show 'Look at what they've done' but after this it seems she stayed quiet concerning Daury.....


Maybe she's only doing this because Joran is the only one she knows the true identity of and the one who holds a big responsibility...maybe she doubts the Daurypart in the confession...could all be...but it seems a bit weird.

GBMW ... why do you have to analysis Beth's reaction.  Can you not just give this anguished mother the benefit of the doubt that her response has a foundation.

Joran was in a position to get help for her daughter who was in distress.  What did he do?  He call on an unknown assistance with a boat to take her out to sea and dump her.  In otherwords ... a hitman.

It makes perfect sense to me that Beth's anger would be focused on Joran.  Joran put the chain of events into motion that led to Natalee's death ... Natalee's disappearance.

Janet


++++++++++++

Holloway Suspect: 'I Know What Happened'
Dutch Student Said Natalee Holloway's Body Was Dumped in the Ocean
February 3, 2008

In one taped conversation, van der Sloot told van der Eem that Holloway visibly convulsed "like a movie," that she was shaking "a lot."
 
"Did you try CPR on her?" asked van der Eem.
 
"Of course, I tried everything," van der Sloot said. "I tried to shake her. I was shaking the bitch. I was like, 'What is wrong with you man?' I almost wanted to cry. Why does this s*** have to happen to me?"

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4222253&page

Hi Janet,
you asked for the things that make me wonder a bit sometimes. I gave you an example...that's all. I haven't thought of Beth / Natalee's family in any other way then they are the victims. To me it's about what happened to Natalee and who's responsible for what happened to her (I don't believe she committed suicide). Her family & friends deserve to know this & those responsible for her fate deserve to be held accountable for their actions.

GBMW .... I sincerely apologize if I over reacted.

Janet

The reaction came from the right perspective so you're forgiven 

I'm off to bed; it's 03:45 for me...bedtime! Luckily I don't have to get up early.

[hotping]

Thank You  Monkeys.  A great big thank you for all your hard work and research.  The Monkeys have brought so much information out on this case that I otherwise would never have known about.  I don't know how y'all do it.  If I can ever contribute anything that will help the cause I will certainly post it.  But I appreciate just being able to read and learn here.  Thanks again. 

Oh, and I'm sure we will show up on that "other site".  They seem to take such joy from bashing anyone that supports Natalee and family. 

One more thing, if the "other site" is reading this.....  Beth has acted with the utmost graciousness throughout this whole nightmare.  As a mother of four children, I can tell you that I would NOT have been so gracious if this had happened to one of mine.  I would have already ripped their F..... faces off.  Take a poll on that ..........
 

I totally agree! 

[Tamikosmom]

Good Night Monkeys

God Bless

Janet
8:00 PM

[texasmom]

Good Night Monkeys

God Bless

Janet
8:00 PM

Goodnight Janet, and God Bless you too.

[Observer]

Nice post KYcat! Your getting me all pumped up!!!! 

Looks like Awemainta has been hacked also!

[2NJSons_Mom]

KYcat...

I've just caught up and had to post something before saying

g'nite all.

[dennisintn]

This is certainly only my opinion and if it is inappropriate, please feel free to delete.  I don't know a lot about posting at forums, actually I don't know ANYTHING about posting.  I just know that I have followed this case from the very start and it broke my heart and filled me with such outrage at the injustice of it all.  I don't feel like I am part of the SM group but I feel comfortable here reading and learning.  I have read at other forums and one in particular is filled with such hate and venom for Natalee and her family that it sickens me to read there.  I just can't believe some of the vile things said there and don't understand how anyone could possibly feel that way about Natalee and her family since they are the victims in this situation. 

Just the fact that Joran and PVDs said they "know more but won't tell it now because it would hurt certain people".  Unbelievable!!  A young woman is missing/murdered, her family is devasted, and the Sloots are worried about hurting certain people!  WHO?  WHO CARES!  This family has been HURT beyond comprehension.  Not one of the suspects has been held accountable for any of their lies and actions.  People think Beth has acted inappropriately.  Give me a break.  Beth and Dave, etal, have done exactly what all parents should do - FIGHT LIKE HELL FOR JUSTICE FOR THEIR DAUGHTER!

Just my opinion - like I said you can delete if you want - I don't know where to post what so this might not even be the place to post the above comments. 

Thanks for letting me vent 




 

BRAVO!!  Post of the day!  I agree with you 100%!

KYcat, it sounds like you're right at home here.  your head and heart are in the right place so sound off at will.
dennisintn

[Shell]

San,  @ fat skank

[texasmom]

 

from: KYcat on Today at 09:06:20 PM
This is certainly only my opinion and if it is inappropriate, please feel free to delete.  I don't know a lot about posting at forums, actually I don't know ANYTHING about posting.  I just know that I have followed this case from the very start and it broke my heart and filled me with such outrage at the injustice of it all.  I don't feel like I am part of the SM group but I feel comfortable here reading and learning.  I have read at other forums and one in particular is filled with such hate and venom for Natalee and her family that it sickens me to read there.  I just can't believe some of the vile things said there and don't understand how anyone could possibly feel that way about Natalee and her family since they are the victims in this situation. 

Just the fact that Joran and PVDs said they "know more but won't tell it now because it would hurt certain people".  Unbelievable!!  A young woman is missing/murdered, her family is devasted, and the Sloots are worried about hurting certain people!  WHO?  WHO CARES!  This family has been HURT beyond comprehension.  Not one of the suspects has been held accountable for any of their lies and actions.  People think Beth has acted inappropriately.  Give me a break.  Beth and Dave, etal, have done exactly what all parents should do - FIGHT LIKE HELL FOR JUSTICE FOR THEIR DAUGHTER!

Just my opinion - like I said you can delete if you want - I don't know where to post what so this might not even be the place to post the above comments. 

Thanks for letting me vent 

from: KYcat on Today at 09:41:44 PM
Thank You  Monkeys.  A great big thank you for all your hard work and research.  The Monkeys have brought so much information out on this case that I otherwise would never have known about.  I don't know how y'all do it.  If I can ever contribute anything that will help the cause I will certainly post it.  But I appreciate just being able to read and learn here.  Thanks again. 

Oh, and I'm sure we will show up on that "other site".  They seem to take such joy from bashing anyone that supports Natalee and family. 

One more thing, if the "other site" is reading this.....  Beth has acted with the utmost graciousness throughout this whole nightmare.  As a mother of four children, I can tell you that I would NOT have been so gracious if this had happened to one of mine.  I would have already ripped their F..... faces off.  Take a poll on that ..........
 

  KYcat, I agree with you 100%!  I hope you'll post more often! 

[Shell]

Anybody that would bash Beth in any form or fashion is weird and ignorant. JMHO

[KYcat]

Goodnight Monkeys!!

Keep up the GOOD FIGHT!

  (I hope my smiley is giving the peace sign -  I'm a child of the 70's)