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Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #6 7/2/13 - 7/9/13 (Read 243502 times)
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Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #6 7/2/13 -
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https://twitter.com/yamiche
Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 2m
Carter is important b/c #GeorgeZimmerman told Sean Hannity he only heard of stand your ground after shooting. Carter: I covered it in class
Corey Dade Corey Dade @CoreyDade 9m
Carter: "We talked about the law, elements of the law" and criminal procedure. State gives him past homework assignments to review. #GZtrial
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July 3, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
@artistofideas Nor spelling in general.
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Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
West: "Reasonable person" or "reasonable belief" standard used to determine self-defense? Carter: Yes. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 4m
Carter says he worked for Orange County public defender's office while teaching. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 7m
Carter to #GeorgeZimmerman, when asked to identify him: "How ya doin', George?" #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 8m
Carter: "I remember talking about it (SYG) quite a few times." State done, West now up for cross. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin
lisaciancilisacianci @lisacianci 11m
Are you interested in the #georgezimmerman trial? Then follow @renestutzman and @JeffWeinerOS. Watch live at
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
West: "You didn't write the book?" Carter: "No, I did not," was recommended. Didn't focus on FL law specifically. #ZimmermanTrial
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July 3, 2013 Tweets act
https://twitter.com/yamiche
Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
Don West now asking Carter about specifics of Florida's self defense law and the evolution of castle doctrine to stand your ground
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 6m
Carter says the class' textbook didn't discuss Florida law specifically but Carter says he focused on Florida in discussions and lectures
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Discussion about Castle Doctrine/SYG was part of classwork not contained in book? Carter: Yes, wasn't in book. #ZimmermanTrial
Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman @renestutzman 3m
Follow the George Zimmerman trial and offer ur opinions.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-live-video-chat-20130612,0,7210676.htmlpage
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Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 5m
West questioning Carter on law prior to SYG, duty to retreat from danger if possible. State objects. Attorneys to the bench. #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 6m
West: SYG expanded Castle Doctrine to outside home, removed "duty to retreat?" Carter: Correct. #GeorgeZimmerman #Trayvonmartin
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 7m
West: Florida's self-defense law not actually called "stand your ground," right? Carter: No, "it's a nickname." #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 7m
West questions Carter on how laws are codified, Carter says he's familiar with Florida's self-defense laws. #GeorgeZImmerman #ZimmermanTrial
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
After state objection to West's description of law, Nelson tells jurors she'll explain law to them before deliberations. #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 5m
Carter continues explanation of pre/post SYG status of the self-defense laws. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 6m
Nelson: Clarify if evolution of self-defense law discussed in class, or just speaking as lawyer. Carter: Came up in class. #ZimmermanTrial
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The florida legislature has protected victims
http://www.joffelaw.com/state-rules/90-404.html
Florida Rules of Evidence
90.404 Character evidence; when admissible.--
(1) CHARACTER EVIDENCE GENERALLY.--Evidence of a person's character or a trait of character is inadmissible to prove action in conformity with it on a particular occasion, except:
(a) Character of accused.--Evidence of a pertinent trait of character offered by an accused, or by the prosecution to rebut the trait.
(b) Character of victim.--
1. Except as provided in s. 794.022, evidence of a pertinent trait of character of the victim of the crime offered by an accused, or by the prosecution to rebut the trait; or
2. Evidence of a character trait of peacefulness of the victim offered by the prosecution in a homicide case to rebut evidence that the victim was the aggressor.
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https://twitter.com/yamiche
Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 1m
Judge Nelson tells jury she will explain what the law is before deliberations.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 2m
Carter: "When stuff hits the fan, you're judge by the jurors." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
Carter says self defense is subjective and uses example that someone might be in fear if approached in the dark rather than in daytime.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 4m
West still going over what Florida's self defense law says and castle doctrine.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 27s
West: Don't need to wait until near death to act? Carter: No, "I would advise you probably don't do that." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
Carter: Injuries not needed for "reasonable fear," but "the fact that there were injuries" can support fear. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Carter: "Things can change in a matter of moments." West: Situation can turn deadly quickly? "Oh, yes." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
West: Injuries not a requirement of self-defense law? State objects. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 5m
Carter: When acting in self-defense under law, "actions have to meet a reasonable standard, objectively." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Kyle Hightower @khightower 8m
Carter also says he taught class that the same presumption for reasonable fear of not present in Stand Your Ground.
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 4m
Carter says he told #GeorgeZimmerman 's class that things can change in a matter of moments. Having no injury doesn't mean there's no fear.
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Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Carter says person who initiated situation can be put on the defensive, if response is disproportionate. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 5m
Carter says he explained to class that people can start off defending themselves and take it too far and become the aggressor.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
#ZimmermanTrial: Judge allows testimony on #GeorgeZimmerman's criminal justice classes | Updated:
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#TrayvonMartin
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Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 4m
West done with cross, state's Richard Mantei back up for redirect. Defense objects to 1st question. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei: "Imperfect" self-defense involves disproportionate response, "like a gunshot?" Carter: "Like a gunshot." #ZimmermanTrial
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara in cross: #GeorgeZImmerman only wanted ride-along once, in 2010? Krzenski: Yes. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
Krzenski says #GeorgeZimmerman indicated he wanted ride-along to "solidify my chances of" career in law enforcement. #TrayvonMartin
Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Next up: Jim Krzenski, administrative services for SPD. Here to talk about #GeorgeZimmerman's ride-along. #TrayvonMartin
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 48s
Krzenski done. Next witness to appear by Skype at 11 a.m., so court will recess until then. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 59s
Krzenski says #GeorgeZimmerman only applied once to do a police ride-along. He's quickly off the stand.
Court in recess until 11
Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 1m
Officer Jim Krzenski says #GeorgeZimmerman wanted to do a police ridealong to solidify his chances of a career in law enforcement.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 5m
After discussion with West and Mantei about self defense Carter is done testifying.
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7/2/13
As George Zimmerman Prosecution Implodes, A Media Invested In His Guilt Grows More Shrill
"Since the Zimmerman trial began, the instant analysis of the nationally televised case – meriting near wall-to-wall coverage on the cable news outlets – has not been favorable to the prosecution. State witness after state witness has had their credibility impugned or introduced reasonable doubt that Zimmerman’s actions may not meet the threshold necessary to convict him for second degree murder. And as the state’s case against Zimmerman grows thinner, the tone of those in the media who have invested a significant portion of the last 16 months in an effort to indict him in the court of public opinion has grown more caustic"
"On Monday evening, Grace lit up a spokesperson for Zimmerman who claimed that the defendant felt fear for his life during the physical altercation with Martin. Grace expressed over-the-top incredulity of this assertion and cut straight to commercial when in-house legal expert Matt Zarrell backed up the Zimmerman spokesman’s claim"
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/as-zimmerman-prosecution-implodes-a-media-invested-in-his-guilt-grows-more-shrill/
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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 1m
Jury is back in court.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
Jury not back yet as attorneys try to figure out audio issues.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 4m
Court is back in session.
Zimmerman's former college professor is supposed to be testifying by Skype
. They are having audio issues
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Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 37s
Judge says hang up and find another way to call him.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 51s
This Skype call is having a lot of problems with pop ups of people calling interrupting the call.
Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 1m
Pleasants class was distance learning, online class with discussions.
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche 3m
Scott Pleasants taught criminal investigation at Seminole County College
to #GeorgeZimmerman
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