Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #66

[Fuzzball]

Hi, I never did see the sonagrams.  Are we sure they were not Caseys and Lees????

OMG! Good question! Of course this picture-happy family would have those around, wouldn't they?

[numbersgirl]

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0382/SEC012.HTM&Title=->2008->Ch0382->Section%20012#0382.012

Here's a link to Florida's Statute concerning a Presumptive Death Certificate...In the absence of a body, a Death Certificate is issued under Court Order.

[BooMonkey]

Is anyone thinking "escort" with Kasey?  I have thought that all along --
Wish someone would come out with the 1200 plus comprimising pics of KC..I think earlier tonight someone metioned LP had them?
I don't want to see the picks just want to listen to CA explain them...it would be interesting I am sure.

Considering her past, this profession is not really reaching IMO. Why not? She does almost every guy she meets, why not get paid for it? She loves being the center of attention and then money to boot?! Bonus!!

But she had no money boo. If she did, what did she do with it?

Who says she doesn't have money? I don't think she would tell anyone if she has a secret bank account. I'm sure she was stashing some of it away for her disappearing act. Plus going to the club, the cell phone bills, the gas in her car, she had to pay for that some of the time. She wasn't getting paid huge money, but some just the same IMO. I think she did it for the thrill, living life on the edge, being the center of attention.

[joesamas mama]

Is anyone thinking "escort" with Kasey?  I have thought that all along --
Wish someone would come out with the 1200 plus comprimising pics of KC..I think earlier tonight someone metioned LP had them?
I don't want to see the picks just want to listen to CA explain them...it would be interesting I am sure.

Considering her past, this profession is not really reaching IMO. Why not? She does almost every guy she meets, why not get paid for it? She loves being the center of attention and then money to boot?! Bonus!!

But she had no money boo. If she did, what did she do with it?

Shot it up her nose, her arm, and into her stomach?

She was up til all hours of the night even when she wasn't partying, so that's a good possibility. Also she is chatty cathy.

[always 1]

Evening Monkeys, I have been reading the IM between Casey and NYItaliano guy. I'm sorry, they are just disgusting. I am having a hard time getting through it all.

Also, I know this is off topic, but I would like to ask you to keep my puppy in your prayers, he needs all they prayers he can get. Sorry for O/T, I promise no more tonight.

Honey this is what you do - you go to a vet that has care over bills - and get that PUP pumped up with saline. For fluids and demand Meds for what ever is. I had a kitten that I adopted and the day I brought him home - he never meowed nor moved. Went on the next day. I called the shelter that I had adopted him from and they said - NOT our problem. I took him to the vet and they saline packed him -under his skin. He was under a lb. He looked like a tiny gray blimp.
He never ate and I swear to god I thought I was going to lose him. I took him back again the the same VET and the VET said in a Irate voice -
Where have you taken this Kitten to for CARE prior!  I screamed back at her like a bloody freak - HERE and He has only been here - YOUR partner ! You do know her don't you?
They again PUMPED him with Saline and gave him a liquid diet that I had to feed him with a syringe.  I said Enough is Enough. I called my Friend Banana * yes that is her real nickname Banana and she worked for Humane Society for years and I told her what was. She met me in the parking lot with a med for Canines - antibiotic. I had spent over 700.00 on my baby with no change of health at the vet and I ran out of money. Way even before the 700.00

This is that little frail Kitten that I thought Would Never Survive

My DD kissing his nose.
He is almost 9 yrs old - and is and Will always be the love of My life - His nickname is Daddy .. he is the silent ruler of my house.

PRAYING for your puppy as fervently as if he were my own.

[no rose colored glasses]

Welcome Eternal.... Deenie that is a beautiful cat.

[invision]

Is anyone thinking "escort" with Kasey?  I have thought that all along --
Wish someone would come out with the 1200 plus comprimising pics of KC..I think earlier tonight someone metioned LP had them?
I don't want to see the picks just want to listen to CA explain them...it would be interesting I am sure.

Considering her past, this profession is not really reaching IMO. Why not? She does almost every guy she meets, why not get paid for it? She loves being the center of attention and then money to boot?! Bonus!!

But she had no money boo. If she did, what did she do with it?

Shot it up her nose, her arm, and into her stomach?

She was up til all hours of the night even when she wasn't partying, so that's a good possibility. Also she is chatty cathy.

Personally I think had a more serious "addiction" been going on w/Casey ... we would have heard something about it ... She would have been taken to detox or rehab instead of county jail .. To have an addiction to the extent of "shooting up" would require rehab and a detox w/a supliment such as methadone or suboxone as not to have serious withdrawl complications.  IMO

[Deenie]

Welcome Eternal.... Deenie that is a beautiful cat.

thank U - he even says Ma Mah ... he is my rock.

[pink angel]

I really do question that birth certificate.  Like other monkeys I checked out my children's b/c's, and on all of them there is tons more info.  Such as the address where their dad and I lived, our names (including my maiden name), and our signatures underneath.  They also have the time each was born, how much each weighed, their length, and if it was a single or multiple birth.  Also includes the name of the hospital, the doctor's name and address, along with the doc's signature underneath. 

Lots missing from Caylee's so-called b/c, IMO.  Makes me wonder why!   

That's the birth certificate you get from the courthouse.

My son recently needed a birth certificate and due to a recent move I had no idea where his was, so he went down to the courthouse, showed his photo ID paid his ten bucks and got a replacement. Which is similar to the one of Caylee's.

It doesn't have the time or his size/weight. Just his name, my name, his dad's name, place/city of birth and date of birth.

It doesn't list the time he was born, his size or length, his dr's name like his original certificate did.

[joesamas mama]

Is anyone thinking "escort" with Kasey?  I have thought that all along --
Wish someone would come out with the 1200 plus comprimising pics of KC..I think earlier tonight someone metioned LP had them?
I don't want to see the picks just want to listen to CA explain them...it would be interesting I am sure.

Considering her past, this profession is not really reaching IMO. Why not? She does almost every guy she meets, why not get paid for it? She loves being the center of attention and then money to boot?! Bonus!!

But she had no money boo. If she did, what did she do with it?

Who says she doesn't have money? I don't think she would tell anyone if she has a secret bank account. I'm sure she was stashing some of it away for her disappearing act. Plus going to the club, the cell phone bills, the gas in her car, she had to pay for that some of the time. She wasn't getting paid huge money, but some just the same IMO. I think she did it for the thrill, living life on the edge, being the center of attention.

I didn't think about that boo. She did tell Baez she had thousands of dollars, I don't really remember the amount.

[eternal0void]

I really do question that birth certificate.  Like other monkeys I checked out my children's b/c's, and on all of them there is tons more info.  Such as the address where their dad and I lived, our names (including my maiden name), and our signatures underneath.  They also have the time each was born, how much each weighed, their length, and if it was a single or multiple birth.  Also includes the name of the hospital, the doctor's name and address, along with the doc's signature underneath. 

Lots missing from Caylee's so-called b/c, IMO.  Makes me wonder why!   

There's nothing inherently suspicious about the birth certificate because, in the U.S.A., there are actually two forms of birth certificate used interchangeably: the "long form" and the "short form".

The "long form" is the official birth certificate recorded at the time of birth.  This is the kind of birth certificate you dug out of your records box, and it has lots of information on it.

However, the kind of birth certificate usually issued when you go to get a copy of your birth certificate (unless you specifically request the "long form") is the "short form", which has much less information on it than the "long form".  As long as the "short form" contains the child's name, date of birth, sex, place of birth, and the names of the child's parents, it can legally be used interchangeably with the "long form", as the state issuing the "short form" is effectively confirming the existence of a "long form".

[trimmonthelake]

ak mom parts of the 30th area have been searched already.  It is a huge area .  Would you mind if I got your email address from Klaas? If you are uncomfortable with that it is ok>

No problem at all.  Paging Klaas..... can you do that?

Done

Thank you!!!  You are such a great zoo geeper!! hehe

Hi Akmom..just wanted you to know I saw you    .....and we have the best zoo geeper!

[joesamas mama]

Thank you Monkeys for your prayers for my baby. I really appreciate it more than you will ever know. Thanks again!

[numbersgirl]

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0937/Sec024.HTM

Florida has a specific statute dealing with the Birth Certificate of a Missing Child...

[Deenie]

I really do question that birth certificate.  Like other monkeys I checked out my children's b/c's, and on all of them there is tons more info.  Such as the address where their dad and I lived, our names (including my maiden name), and our signatures underneath.  They also have the time each was born, how much each weighed, their length, and if it was a single or multiple birth.  Also includes the name of the hospital, the doctor's name and address, along with the doc's signature underneath. 

Lots missing from Caylee's so-called b/c, IMO.  Makes me wonder why!   

That's the birth certificate you get from the courthouse.

My son recently needed a birth certificate and due to a recent move I had no idea where his was, so he went down to the courthouse, showed his photo ID paid his ten bucks and got a replacement. Which is similar to the one of Caylee's.

It doesn't have the time or his size/weight. Just his name, my name, his dad's name, place/city of birth and date of birth.

It doesn't list the time he was born, his size or length, his dr's name like his original certificate did.

basically it is proof of his birth?

I agree with you. My DD original birth cert has everything on it - all her stats and mine

Her vitals everything is on it   -time of birth, gender, race, weight blah yadda
that cert they post as Caylee's is a acknowledgment of her Birth - not her actual BC
jmo

[numbersgirl]

I really do question that birth certificate.  Like other monkeys I checked out my children's b/c's, and on all of them there is tons more info.  Such as the address where their dad and I lived, our names (including my maiden name), and our signatures underneath.  They also have the time each was born, how much each weighed, their length, and if it was a single or multiple birth.  Also includes the name of the hospital, the doctor's name and address, along with the doc's signature underneath. 

Lots missing from Caylee's so-called b/c, IMO.  Makes me wonder why!   

There's nothing inherently suspicious about the birth certificate because, in the U.S.A., there are actually two forms of birth certificate used interchangeably: the "long form" and the "short form".

The "long form" is the official birth certificate recorded at the time of birth.  This is the kind of birth certificate you dug out of your records box, and it has lots of information on it.

However, the kind of birth certificate usually issued when you go to get a copy of your birth certificate (unless you specifically request the "long form") is the "short form", which has much less information on it than the "long form".  As long as the "short form" contains the child's name, date of birth, sex, place of birth, and the names of the child's parents, it can legally be used interchangeably with the "long form", as the state issuing the "short form" is effectively confirming the existence of a "long form".

Hi Eternal...thanks for the information.

[eternal0void]

Is anyone thinking "escort" with Kasey?  I have thought that all along --
Wish someone would come out with the 1200 plus comprimising pics of KC..I think earlier tonight someone metioned LP had them?
I don't want to see the picks just want to listen to CA explain them...it would be interesting I am sure.

Considering her past, this profession is not really reaching IMO. Why not? She does almost every guy she meets, why not get paid for it? She loves being the center of attention and then money to boot?! Bonus!!

But she had no money boo. If she did, what did she do with it?

Shot it up her nose, her arm, and into her stomach?

She was up til all hours of the night even when she wasn't partying, so that's a good possibility. Also she is chatty cathy.

Personally I think had a more serious "addiction" been going on w/Casey ... we would have heard something about it ... She would have been taken to detox or rehab instead of county jail .. To have an addiction to the extent of "shooting up" would require rehab and a detox w/a supliment such as methadone or suboxone as not to have serious withdrawl complications.  IMO

If it was just the weed there would have been no serious withdrawal complications, and weed is still expensive enough to warrant getting all the extra money you can find.  There are a number of other drugs (LSD among them) which have no serious withdrawal complications (even for regular users) while still being quite expensive.  And despite prison official claims to the contrary, prisons are still great places to score some drugs (minus the obvious problem of having to do them inside a prison...).

[Fuzzball]

well now, this is interesting!!     cindy's mother writing about casey being pregnant BEFORE...

"i smiled when you said cindy says she doesn't think casey is pg.  i don't think she thought casey was pg the last time around either???  something is keeping casey from facing her mother???  (i was so devastated last time when casey was pregnant.  it was almost like it was my own child).  i just felt terrible and i could imagine how letdown cindy felt."

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/112608discoverysetten/1/lg/Anthony_pgs_2901-2950_Page_17.htm

Wow. She was pregnant before? Cindy was let down? Crazy? Was Cindy let down because she wanted Casey to be a baby factory to keep the family "together"? I am so confused!

My interpretation in red below:

"i smiled when you said cindy says she doesn't think casey is pg (recently).  i don't think she thought casey was pg the last time around either???(last time being when she WAS pregnant with Caylee)   something is keeping casey from facing her mother???  (i was so devastated last time when casey was pregnant.  it was almost like it was my own child - meaning that Shirley was devistated just like she would have been if it had happened to Cindy).  i just felt terrible and i could imagine how letdown cindy felt."

that's another way of looking at it, interesting!  if this is what that's referring to, what's your thoughts on why shirley felt devastated and cindy may have felt letdown?

  She is  agreat grandmother to a teenage girl who is having a baby with no husband and no future don't think most great g m would be devastated by a miss carriage would say this --its  sad about the baby-but  it was an act of god-and you are young. In the future this should not happen again.  You are to young to have a  baby and you have no way to provide for a child.  You made a mistake dont  make another

I think Shirley simply meant she was devastated that Casey was pregnant at all, back when she was denying being pregnant with Caylee. Shirley's generation didn't welcome out-of-wedlock pregnancies, nor did grandparents expect to raise their grandchildren back then. For a 19-year-old to show up unmarried and pregnant could certainly be devastating, a sign of complete failure and breakdown of morals and discipline in a family, a think to be ashamed of.

[Kat_Gram]

I think Baez is going to use the family as what Casey was trying to " protect" Caylee from. He sais that we would understand. That Casey had been thru alot. He used the term Steel Magnolia. The innuendo of abuse, all kinds.
Heck, if there wasn't a dead baby in this story, I would feel for Casey.
If she had killed Cindy or George, maximum one year.
Has the abuse she told Jesse and Tony L about ( hinted at ) been brought up
on any of the news shows ? NG is a rehash and I was away from computer and TV for a few days. There was a TV in the hotel rooom, but the remote was in small hands. Went to the USA for a two dayer ( Black Friday with kiddos ) Holy Moley, what trip is all I can say. I am getting to old to do shopping as a combat sport.
Daughter is planning next years. I'll have to get a fake cast or a sling a week before so I can't go or something. Or start training now. 
 

[Deenie]

I have seen my Original Birth Certificate - I was born in 1966
It even has a box for each of my parents Professions - My Dad's career title at that time is on my Birth Cert.

County Info/Hospital name/time of birth  all is listed

Same as within both my parents boxes - single, married, divorced, alive births, ( past present) everything is on the cert of me and my stats.

My mothers catagorys of boxes single birth, multiple birth past present -
the way it was written to be filled out - document -   I was # of ? child she gave a live birth too - meaning I was 1 of 2 ..or 2 of 3. etc.

But that was then ... I am only speculating but have to believe that the BC that they are circulating for Caylee is not the original for her birth cert.