Lively Case Discussion #553 12/3 - 12/4/2006

[Tylergal]

My point of posting that photo is, we don't know who claims to have seen Natalee doing coke.  We don't know if it's a bogus witness or someone who really thinks they saw Natalee.  The thing is, this girl could be mistaken for Natalee, IMO.  Not saying this girl would do drugs, just trying to make a point.

She could be make to look like she was Natalee shopping in a jeweler or using her ATM or offering someone coke, especially if a key reporter who is good with photography, and knows how to photoshop a little and lie a lot had anything to do with it.

[Tylergal]

The same day Ruth Dijkhoff died..."June 18 (2005)– Rene Van Heyningen found partially beheaded in a cemetery"

That was exactly what I thought.  Anyone here read Beach House?  The murder is committed somewhere between 5/29 and 5/30 by the fixer who takes care of anyone who is "against" the powers that be.

[mishy]

Monkeys, let me say that everyone looks so nice in their Christmas attire!! It's so festive in the cage...it's really helping me get in the spirit.

CBB, you're doing a great job with the Photoshop work...and so is Klaas, as usual. She did wonders for my look  

Hey Snoopy! Glad you are OK~~

[klaasend]

My point of posting that photo is, we don't know who claims to have seen Natalee doing coke.  We don't know if it's a bogus witness or someone who really thinks they saw Natalee.  The thing is, this girl could be mistaken for Natalee, IMO.  Not saying this girl would do drugs, just trying to make a point.

She could be make to look like she was Natalee shopping in a jeweler or using her ATM or offering someone coke, especially if a key reporter who is good with photography, and knows how to photoshop a little and lie a lot had anything to do with it.

Exactly  

[memphis]

Forgive me for being a little off the current topic....just working on a theory....

I believe I saw Florida post modeling pictures of Guido (which I had seen) and GVC. Is it common knowledge amongst monkeys that GVC modeled also? Does anyone know if it was the same agency?

Tell me if this has already been beat to death and i will shut up.  

[Dana]

Hello Shell, so good to see you.  We have missed you.

Is it just the replay you have trouble with, or cant you listen live either ?
What player are you using.
Tom has it set up now so you can just play the file right from the web page as an option, or just download it.
For those that missed the show I will re air it tonight at 9pm et on
www.scaredmonkeys.com/radio

[Lala'sMom]

Forgive me for being a little off the current topic....just working on a theory....

I believe I saw Florida post modeling pictures of Guido (which I had seen) and GVC. Is it common knowledge amongst monkeys that GVC modeled also? Does anyone know if it was the same agency?

Tell me if this has already been beat to death and i will shut up.  

 Good question...I don't know the answer though.  Bet Klaas does.

[klaasend]

Forgive me for being a little off the current topic....just working on a theory....

I believe I saw Florida post modeling pictures of Guido (which I had seen) and GVC. Is it common knowledge amongst monkeys that GVC modeled also? Does anyone know if it was the same agency?

Tell me if this has already been beat to death and i will shut up.  

Those weren't modeling photos of GVC, but photos he posted at his Hi5 site.  That's not to say that he hasn't modeled, I just don't believe that's where those photos came from.

[Lala'sMom]

Hello Shell, so good to see you.  We have missed you.

Is it just the replay you have trouble with, or cant you listen live either ?
What player are you using.
Tom has it set up now so you can just play the file right from the web page as an option, or just download it.
For those that missed the show I will re air it tonight at 9pm et on
www.scaredmonkeys.com/radio

I can usually listen live, but I was gone last night so I tried the replay without success.  Thanks for the info.

[memphis]

Forgive me for being a little off the current topic....just working on a theory....

I believe I saw Florida post modeling pictures of Guido (which I had seen) and GVC. Is it common knowledge amongst monkeys that GVC modeled also? Does anyone know if it was the same agency?

Tell me if this has already been beat to death and i will shut up.  

Those weren't modeling photos of GVC, but photos he posted at his Hi5 site.  That's not to say that he hasn't modeled, I just don't believe that's where those photos came from.

This was just one very small picture and it didn't look like the others I've seen with the tourist girs, etc. I got the impression it was an official modeling picture. I will try and find it or ask Florida.

Thanks Klaas!

[memphis]

Hello Shell, so good to see you.  We have missed you.

Is it just the replay you have trouble with, or cant you listen live either ?
What player are you using.
Tom has it set up now so you can just play the file right from the web page as an option, or just download it.
For those that missed the show I will re air it tonight at 9pm et on
www.scaredmonkeys.com/radio

Dana, I can listen to the archives, but have lots of troublel listening live. The player that comes up is Itunes.    I don't know how to change it and use another player.

[Dana]

Hello Shell, so good to see you.  We have missed you.

Is it just the replay you have trouble with, or cant you listen live either ?
What player are you using.
Tom has it set up now so you can just play the file right from the web page as an option, or just download it.
For those that missed the show I will re air it tonight at 9pm et on
www.scaredmonkeys.com/radio

Dana, I can listen to the archives, but have lots of troublel listening live. The player that comes up is Itunes.    I don't know how to change it and use another player.

The best player for live is winamp.
A free player can be downloaded at www.winamp.com
You must a setting in your i tunes that makes it the default player.

[memphis]

Yes, but I have looked everywhere for that little button. I think that Itunes planned it that way.  

I'll download WinAmp and mark it as the default player.

Thanks so much!  

[klaasend]

Forgive me for being a little off the current topic....just working on a theory....

I believe I saw Florida post modeling pictures of Guido (which I had seen) and GVC. Is it common knowledge amongst monkeys that GVC modeled also? Does anyone know if it was the same agency?

Tell me if this has already been beat to death and i will shut up.  

Those weren't modeling photos of GVC, but photos he posted at his Hi5 site.  That's not to say that he hasn't modeled, I just don't believe that's where those photos came from.

This was just one very small picture and it didn't look like the others I've seen with the tourist girs, etc. I got the impression it was an official modeling picture. I will try and find it or ask Florida.

Thanks Klaas!

I think this is the one you are referring to and Florida did call it GVC modeling, but I don't think it really is.  We know Guido was a model and had his photo at a modeling site, as far as I know this photo of GVC came off of his tickle or Hi5 site.

[memphis]

Klaas, That's it! Thank you!

I feel better. It looks like a modeling pic and I was thinking the two may know each other.  


Thanks again!

[2NJSons_Mom]

The same day Ruth Dijkhoff died..."June 18 (2005)– Rene Van Heyningen found partially beheaded in a cemetery"

That was exactly what I thought.  Anyone here read Beach House?  The murder is committed somewhere between 5/29 and 5/30 by the fixer who takes care of anyone who is "against" the powers that be.

I've been looking around on this.  

6/18/05 was a Saturday, and also the day following Steve Croes arrest.  

6/23/05 (Thursday) was the date PVDS was arrested & said he talked to Ruth Dijkhoff at the bank...it doesn't say, however, that she, in fact, worked there, but I did find something inconclusive that could mean she had been a bank employee at another bank, prior.  R. Dijkhoff is a contact listed on a 2001 Registration form on this site:

http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/general/musea/iaca/registration.html

If the deceased Ruth Dijkhoff-Holtmann is the same person he reference, I, too, am coming up with nothing more.  If she is the same person, it's eery, like many other things, that she'd was dead 3 weeks later.  

As Anna and others said, if she'd been an employee at CMB, and was not in on that date, that would be something.  If she was just another customer, it wouldn't mean much, at all, especially now.  Just my thoughts at the moment.

[klaasend]

THE LINEUP - Fox News - 10pm Eastern

12/3/2006

Did a lawyer for one of the suspects in the Natalee Holloway case pay a visit to the lead prosecutor to "clear his conscience"?  We have the scoop.

[Shell]

I sure wish my memory was better on this, or that I had saved the link..sigh...but I was reading the other day about a modeling agency that was really a front for porn. Unsuspecting young ladies (girls actually), asked to pose in provacative poses. The method sounded a lot like a Freddy setup. Did anyone else see this story, I think it was on msn news? Or did I dream it...lol

[Dana]

THE LINEUP - Fox News - 10pm Eastern

12/3/2006

Did a lawyer for one of the suspects in the Natalee Holloway case pay a visit to the lead prosecutor to "clear his conscience"?  We have the scoop.

scoop or poop

cant help but ask with some of these shows .

[klaasend]

The same day Ruth Dijkhoff died..."June 18 (2005)– Rene Van Heyningen found partially beheaded in a cemetery"

That was exactly what I thought.  Anyone here read Beach House?  The murder is committed somewhere between 5/29 and 5/30 by the fixer who takes care of anyone who is "against" the powers that be.

I've been looking around on this.  

6/18/05 was a Saturday, and also the day following Steve Croes arrest.  

6/23/05 (Thursday) was the date PVDS was arrested & said he talked to Ruth Dijkhoff at the bank...it doesn't say, however, that she, in fact, worked there, but I did find something inconclusive that could mean she had been a bank employee at another bank, prior.  R. Dijkhoff is a contact listed on a 2001 Registration form on this site:

http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/general/musea/iaca/registration.html

If the deceased Ruth Dijkhoff-Holtmann is the same person he reference, I, too, am coming up with nothing more.  If she is the same person, it's eery, like many other things, that she'd was dead 3 weeks later.  

As Anna and others said, if she'd been an employee at CMB, and was not in on that date, that would be something.  If she was just another customer, it wouldn't mean much, at all, especially now.  Just my thoughts at the moment.

That's this guy which could have been her husband...don't know:


R.M. Dijkhoff
Assistant Managing Director

http://www.cmbnv.com/management.php