Natalee Case Discussion #810 3/21/09 - 3/24/09

[jen3560]

Lifesong - I'm so sorry you are their latest target!!!

No worries, guys.

It's a very small price to pay...its not like my daughter went on vacation and never came back.   



I was raised well, and taught how to handle myself in confrontational circumstances.

I'm gonna be just fine.  I'm glad to have my resolve strengthened.

Besides....it actually was a little boost to my ego!  I already told them I was just me, nobody to anybody in this case.      

BTW - Buckshot/Jen and anybody else who was asking,

The biggest reason I think the witness is not Caps/Anonimo is because Caps/Anonimo kept changing ponds - but the witness lives in one house at one pond.  Make sense?

Makes sense......................

Do you think he maybe found a "witness", and then it became the Monserrat pond? 

[jen3560]

  2NJ!!

[klaasend]

Published: March 24, 2009 10:44 am             

(10:50 a.m.) Natalee Holloway update
Holloway trying to cover all the possibilities

By Brian Livingston

blivingston@themeridianstar.com

Dave Holloway, the father of missing teenager Natalee Holloway who disappeared four years ago while on a senior trip to Aruba, said this morning he really doesn't think his daughter's body will be found during this latest search.

But he didn't want to spend the rest of his life wondering, "What if", either.

"The guy whose claims prompted this latest search at the pond has been bugging me for some time," said Holloway of Meridian. "He is convinced he saw something and he passed not one but two polygraph tests conducted by reputable technicians. Now, I'm not really sure just how accurate polygraph tests are but I kept thinking what if he is right. I just couldn't see any reason why he would lie about what he believed he saw."

The latest search is centered around a water run-off retaining pond on the island. Aruban police say previous searches of the marshy area have turned up nothing. Holloway admitted all indications have pointed to the ocean as to where his daughter's body is likely located. But the little bit of doubt placed in his head by this "witness" gave Holloway pause.

Holloway contracted a tracker dog specialist to begin his latest search for evidence into Natalee Holloway's May 2005 disappearance early Monday. Nothing was found during Monday's search.

Natalee Holloway, from Mountain Brook, Ala., was 18 when she was last seen in May 2005 in the Aruban capital Oranjestad on the final night of a high school graduation trip. She reportedly left a bar with Dutch man Joran van der Sloot. No trace of her has been found despite extensive searches involving hundreds of volunteers, Aruban soldiers, FBI agents and even Dutch F-16 jets with special equipment.

http://www.meridianstar.com/local/local_story_083114849.html



Also - posted by Lala's at GM.  Not sure if it's a current photo or not:

[Blue Moon]

Published: March 24, 2009 10:44 am             

(10:50 a.m.) Natalee Holloway update
Holloway trying to cover all the possibilities

By Brian Livingston

blivingston@themeridianstar.com

Dave Holloway, the father of missing teenager Natalee Holloway who disappeared four years ago while on a senior trip to Aruba, said this morning he really doesn't think his daughter's body will be found during this latest search.

But he didn't want to spend the rest of his life wondering, "What if", either.

"The guy whose claims prompted this latest search at the pond has been bugging me for some time," said Holloway of Meridian. "He is convinced he saw something and he passed not one but two polygraph tests conducted by reputable technicians. Now, I'm not really sure just how accurate polygraph tests are but I kept thinking what if he is right. I just couldn't see any reason why he would lie about what he believed he saw."

The latest search is centered around a water run-off retaining pond on the island. Aruban police say previous searches of the marshy area have turned up nothing. Holloway admitted all indications have pointed to the ocean as to where his daughter's body is likely located. But the little bit of doubt placed in his head by this "witness" gave Holloway pause.

Holloway contracted a tracker dog specialist to begin his latest search for evidence into Natalee Holloway's May 2005 disappearance early Monday. Nothing was found during Monday's search.

Natalee Holloway, from Mountain Brook, Ala., was 18 when she was last seen in May 2005 in the Aruban capital Oranjestad on the final night of a high school graduation trip. She reportedly left a bar with Dutch man Joran van der Sloot. No trace of her has been found despite extensive searches involving hundreds of volunteers, Aruban soldiers, FBI agents and even Dutch F-16 jets with special equipment.

http://www.meridianstar.com/local/local_story_083114849.html



Also - posted by Lala's at GM.  Not sure if it's a current photo or not:

based on that story the guy who prompted the search by bugging Dave for a long time passed 2 lie detector tests (if I am reading that right).  So one and the same, Caps =witness.

[Tamikosmom]

Holloway's dad says pond search may take 2 weeks


ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — The father of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway said Monday that a U.S. private investigator has begun scouring a pond in Aruba for signs of his daughter and the search may take up to two weeks.

Dave Holloway said the Aruba Prosecutors' Office has asked the investigator, Fred Golba of Chicopee, Massachusetts, to not speak to reporters during his search for evidence into Natalee Holloway's May 2005 disappearance.

Holloway said the tracker dog specialist will comply with the request.

Golba will be searching the pond for "10 days to two weeks maximum" in search of any answers that have eluded the family, Holloway said from his home in Meridian, Mississippi.

Golba has searched for her eight times before on the Dutch Caribbean island. Sections of the pond area have been searched previously and no evidence was ever found.

Natalee Holloway, from Mountain Brook, Alabama, was 18 when she was last seen leaving a bar in the Aruban capital on the final night of a high school graduation trip. No trace of her has turned up despite recurrent searches and extensive publicity.

Dave Holloway said a witness last year alleged that he saw the only remaining suspect, Joran van der Sloot, coming out of the brackish pond in northwest Aruba with only one sneaker on after Natalee's disappearance.

On Monday, telephone calls to the prosecutor's office went unanswered.

Aruban police referred calls regarding the Holloway case to their office.

In early January, Chief Prosecutor Hans Mos said his office was "approaching the end of this lengthy investigation" and appealed to the public for help.

http://tinyurl.com/cbk3bd

oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2008, 11:31:03 PM »

... The Monserat pond was searched after it was pumped dry.  No one is commenting on the pond search.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2844.40

"Pond in May 2008"

[Tamikosmom]

Published: March 24, 2009 10:44 am             

(10:50 a.m.) Natalee Holloway update
Holloway trying to cover all the possibilities

By Brian Livingston

blivingston@themeridianstar.com

Dave Holloway, the father of missing teenager Natalee Holloway who disappeared four years ago while on a senior trip to Aruba, said this morning he really doesn't think his daughter's body will be found during this latest search.

But he didn't want to spend the rest of his life wondering, "What if", either.

"The guy whose claims prompted this latest search at the pond has been bugging me for some time," said Holloway of Meridian. "He is convinced he saw something and he passed not one but two polygraph tests conducted by reputable technicians. Now, I'm not really sure just how accurate polygraph tests are but I kept thinking what if he is right. I just couldn't see any reason why he would lie about what he believed he saw."

The latest search is centered around a water run-off retaining pond on the island. Aruban police say previous searches of the marshy area have turned up nothing. Holloway admitted all indications have pointed to the ocean as to where his daughter's body is likely located. But the little bit of doubt placed in his head by this "witness" gave Holloway pause.

Holloway contracted a tracker dog specialist to begin his latest search for evidence into Natalee Holloway's May 2005 disappearance early Monday. Nothing was found during Monday's search.

Natalee Holloway, from Mountain Brook, Ala., was 18 when she was last seen in May 2005 in the Aruban capital Oranjestad on the final night of a high school graduation trip. She reportedly left a bar with Dutch man Joran van der Sloot. No trace of her has been found despite extensive searches involving hundreds of volunteers, Aruban soldiers, FBI agents and even Dutch F-16 jets with special equipment.

http://www.meridianstar.com/local/local_story_083114849.html

 

The witness was the motivator of this latest search of the pond!!

 

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

I cannot comprehend the witness being so agressive regarding a search of this pond.  This stinks of CAPS.

Janet

[Nut44x4]

It really does Janet....smells real bad 

[Tamikosmom]

Two youngest grandkids (5/7) just dropped off by their Dad.

Off for now!!

Janet
3:30 PM PT

[SunFreak2]

Hello all - been a long time.  This is all too much of a coincidence where this witness says Natalee is.  Now we have the Gardener of Mansur seeing what looked like Joran, Satish and one other boy at the pond by the tennis courts.  We have the photographs frpm the Aru-Bay videos showing what we thought were Joran's tennis shoes down by the water. We have the white trash bag that Natalee was supposedly in, in this pond. They went to drain the pond but could not completely drain it.  Too much coincidence for me. I hope they find her, but it's too wiggy to actually happen. 

[Mere]

Hi...back and caught up....Jen....thank you for your notes...got them all.

Quote from the Meridian Star sounds as though the witness is the reason for the search....and the witness is the one who has bugged Dave for a year....imagine....!

[Keepthefaith]

Hello all - been a long time.  This is all too much of a coincidence where this witness says Natalee is.  Now we have the Gardener of Mansur seeing what looked like Joran, Satish and one other boy at the pond by the tennis courts.  We have the photographs frpm the Aru-Bay videos showing what we thought were Joran's tennis shoes down by the water. We have the white trash bag that Natalee was supposedly in, in this pond. They went to drain the pond but could not completely drain it.  Too much coincidence for me. I hope they find her, but it's too wiggy to actually happen. 

Are you a CapsLockWizard Follower?TIA

[SunFreak2]

Are you a CapsLockWizard Follower?TIA

What does it matter anyway?  I don't even know who that person is. Sorry.   

[klaasend]

Hello all - been a long time.  This is all too much of a coincidence where this witness says Natalee is.  Now we have the Gardener of Mansur seeing what looked like Joran, Satish and one other boy at the pond by the tennis courts.  We have the photographs frpm the Aru-Bay videos showing what we thought were Joran's tennis shoes down by the water. We have the white trash bag that Natalee was supposedly in, in this pond. They went to drain the pond but could not completely drain it.  Too much coincidence for me. I hope they find her, but it's too wiggy to actually happen. 

Hi Sunfreak - good to see you!  I don't hold out much hope either to be honest.

[Keepthefaith]

Are you a CapsLockWizard Follower?TIA

What does it matter anyway?  I don't even know who that person is. Sorry.   

Thanx SunFreak2...

[Mere]

Are you a CapsLockWizard Follower?TIA

What does it matter anyway?  I don't even know who that person is. Sorry.   

Hi SF....I have been reading some of your old material....wish we had kept it up to date....that
was a lot of work....

[nonesuche]

As sad as it is to read this has kept Dave up nights, part of me is relieved to see Dave use the correct word for what some have done consistently in this case, which is to bug the you-know out of this family. I am also guessing that some still quest for the reward funds.....I won't speculate further.

KTF, Sunfreak posts at GM predominately.

[Tamikosmom]

Hello all - been a long time.  This is all too much of a coincidence where this witness says Natalee is.  Now we have the Gardener of Mansur seeing what looked like Joran, Satish and one other boy at the pond by the tennis courts.  We have the photographs frpm the Aru-Bay videos showing what we thought were Joran's tennis shoes down by the water. We have the white trash bag that Natalee was supposedly in, in this pond. They went to drain the pond but could not completely drain it.  Too much coincidence for me. I hope they find her, but it's too wiggy to actually happen. 

Hi Sunfreak ... it has been a while.

I believe the Pond witness entering the scenario is bringing about a simple finale to the Aruban coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holoway since May 30, 2005.

Think about it.  Only Joran will be implicated in the disposing of Natalee Holloway's body and ... Paulus will play a minor role in picking up Joran at McDonalds after the fact.

In other words ... Deepak and Satish becomes non-issues.  Others involved in the disposal of Natalee Holloway's body become non-issues.  Those involved in the coverup become non-issues.  Those involved in Aruba's underground economy in involving the sex trade, pornograph, gambling, alcohol, drugs and money become non-issues.

Janet

+++++


CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Update on Natalee Holloway Investigation
Aired February 23, 2006 - 21:00 ET

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  I know one thing that Deepak Kalpoe did in August was, when the gardener came before the judge of instruction to give sworn testimony of witnessing those three suspects together in the Kalpoe brothers' car that night at the pond, across the street from the Marriott, it was in front of the prosecutor, in front of the defense, the judge of instruction, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, Joran Van Der Sloot.

Deepak panicked. He panicked when the gardener gave that testimony. That very afternoon, he called an Aruban girl to help him establish an alibi. She, in turn, panicked. She called FBI. She dialed the 1-877-NATALEE number and told them that she did not want to be involved in this.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/23/lkl.01.html

[KYcat]

Hi all, I just want to clarify something.  When Dave made the comments below:

snipped>>>

"The guy whose claims prompted this latest search at the pond has been bugging me for some time," said Holloway of Meridian. "He is convinced he saw something and he passed not one but two polygraph tests conducted by reputable technicians. Now, I'm not really sure just how accurate polygraph tests are but I kept thinking what if he is right. I just couldn't see any reason why he would lie about what he believed he saw."

snipped>>>

Does he mean that the fact that a witness saw something that could lead to Natalee is what is bugging him OR that the witness has been bugging him for some time?????

I took it to mean to mean the fist circumstance not that the witness was actually bugging him?

Any thoughts? 

 

[KYcat]

I need an edit button!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!