Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09

[jill]

ILC is full of it. They are claiming that the 2 families didn't get along yet all the kids played together? Cause now they're saying that the older kids were friendly with each other as well. How can that be? Yep, they are definately spinning something stinky.

you mean like Elizabeth's older sis and AB were friends?

That might be true - I read somewhere, maybe here, that the older girl in the pool in the YouTube pool vid is Elizabeth's older sis.

But I definitely agree that ILC has an agenda, and I think the agenda is to put some info out there to help sway people's thinking re: AB and her grandparents.

Northern Rose is absolutely correct.  What reason in the world would the GP's have for going to Elizabeth's house that night, if they did not know she was missing?  And I do not believe for a minute that the GPs did not know Elizabeth was there.

Wasn't the first thing we heard that the Grandparent had told Elizabeth to go home?

[espresso]

ILC is full of it. They are claiming that the 2 families didn't get along yet all the kids played together? Cause now they're saying that the older kids were friendly with each other as well. How can that be? Yep, they are definately spinning something stinky.

you mean like Elizabeth's older sis and AB were friends?

That might be true - I read somewhere, maybe here, that the older girl in the pool in the YouTube pool vid is Elizabeth's older sis.

But I definitely agree that ILC has an agenda, and I think the agenda is to put some info out there to help sway people's thinking re: AB and her grandparents.

Northern Rose is absolutely correct.  What reason in the world would the GP's have for going to Elizabeth's house that night, if they did not know she was missing?  And I do not believe for a minute that the GPs did not know Elizabeth was there.

Wasn't the first thing we heard that the Grandparent had told Elizabeth to go home?

Bolded by me. I'm not sure-I don't remember but I do remember reading that the GP's told Elizabeth's mom that she left the already.Now how could they say that if according to ILC the GP's didn't even know she was there in the first place?

[Northern Rose]

ILC is full of it. They are claiming that the 2 families didn't get along yet all the kids played together? Cause now they're saying that the older kids were friendly with each other as well. How can that be? Yep, they are definately spinning something stinky.

you mean like Elizabeth's older sis and AB were friends?

That might be true - I read somewhere, maybe here, that the older girl in the pool in the YouTube pool vid is Elizabeth's older sis.

But I definitely agree that ILC has an agenda, and I think the agenda is to put some info out there to help sway people's thinking re: AB and her grandparents.

Northern Rose is absolutely correct.  What reason in the world would the GP's have for going to Elizabeth's house that night, if they did not know she was missing?  And I do not believe for a minute that the GPs did not know Elizabeth was there.

Wasn't the first thing we heard that the Grandparent had told Elizabeth to go home?

ILC is stating that the twin brothers of AB were over at Elizabeth's house playing with Anthony the night Elizabeth went missing.

[jill]

this Charolotte Rhodes girl is a total POSER.

Check this out - she used to call herself a Juggalette.

What a joke!

http://www.google.com/search?q=Juggalette+CharlieaCyanide+AKA&hl=en&sa=2

[espresso]

ILC is full of it. They are claiming that the 2 families didn't get along yet all the kids played together? Cause now they're saying that the older kids were friendly with each other as well. How can that be? Yep, they are definately spinning something stinky.

you mean like Elizabeth's older sis and AB were friends?

That might be true - I read somewhere, maybe here, that the older girl in the pool in the YouTube pool vid is Elizabeth's older sis.

But I definitely agree that ILC has an agenda, and I think the agenda is to put some info out there to help sway people's thinking re: AB and her grandparents.

Northern Rose is absolutely correct.  What reason in the world would the GP's have for going to Elizabeth's house that night, if they did not know she was missing?  And I do not believe for a minute that the GPs did not know Elizabeth was there.

Wasn't the first thing we heard that the Grandparent had told Elizabeth to go home?

ILC is stating that the twin brothers of AB were over at Elizabeth's house playing with Anthony the night Elizabeth went missing.

I don't know what to make of that. Wouldn't something have been said somewhere about how the boys didn't see her head home or she didn't pass them on the way? I mean it's a distance of 4 houses right? So if these kids hung out together on a regular basis you'd think the parents would have some sort of basic relationship. That'd there be more info as to who was where when she first went missing. I never saw anything that Patty Olten said "Well the boys were at my house and Elizabeth was at their's and they didn't see her on the road." You know?  I don't know if I'm making any sense lol.

[Jan_in_Tx]

I don't know if I missed something or just read it wrong...I recall something about the GP's sending Elizabeth home, but I think I remember something about someone(Elizabeth?) calling and telling Patty that she was going home, then when she didn't show is when mom notified the police. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I might be getting confused! 

What is ILC trying to accomplish by shining a dark light on Patty? She lost her child and is having to deal with it almost alone...what she may or may not have been doing the night baby EO was killed is irrelevant...SHE LOST HER  BABY TO A MONSTER! WS will allow ILC to speculate EO's mom's extra curricular activities, WRONG on sooo many levels.

Who is this 20 yr old they are speaking of? I was under the impression there was AB, a younger sis, and 2 younger bro's...wasn't aware of an older sib??

[jill]

ILC is full of it. They are claiming that the 2 families didn't get along yet all the kids played together? Cause now they're saying that the older kids were friendly with each other as well. How can that be? Yep, they are definately spinning something stinky.

you mean like Elizabeth's older sis and AB were friends?

That might be true - I read somewhere, maybe here, that the older girl in the pool in the YouTube pool vid is Elizabeth's older sis.

But I definitely agree that ILC has an agenda, and I think the agenda is to put some info out there to help sway people's thinking re: AB and her grandparents.

Northern Rose is absolutely correct.  What reason in the world would the GP's have for going to Elizabeth's house that night, if they did not know she was missing?  And I do not believe for a minute that the GPs did not know Elizabeth was there.

Wasn't the first thing we heard that the Grandparent had told Elizabeth to go home?

ILC is stating that the twin brothers of AB were over at Elizabeth's house playing with Anthony the night Elizabeth went missing.

check out Northern's reply #713

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6338.700

[jill]

oops, quoted the wrong post - meant to quote espresso.

[jill]

I have to say that this is the first I've heard of a 20 year old living at AB's house.

I did not know that.

[jean75]

Hello thanks for the welcomes.  I hadn't read all the stuff posted so I wasn't sure if it was posted or not. She wrote something about there being 3 people  in the woods. Could she know thatther is perhaps more than 1 person involved or is this all just fabricated b/c she likes attention.

[jill]

I've forgotten my manners.  To all of the new monkeys:

[no rose colored glasses]

Jules71 
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Location: Washington State
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilovecookies 
I have no idea. But I'd assume it'd been a while. She'd been in therapy for years, and I'm sure she had been taking it most of the time she was in therapy

I wonder if her meds changed recently - the dose or type of med.
 
    If this is true, the prozac or any other meds she has been on, is going to be part of the excuse. This has happened before when a medication of this kind has been given to a teen, and the teen either commited suicide or murder.

[Txsflame]

Smooth is online right now..be intresting to see what pops up NOW!!!!

[Nut44x4]

Apparently the therapy didn't work

[no rose colored glasses]

Apparently the therapy didn't work

No surprise, and some of the medicine given to teens, really shouldn't be, but that's a whole other story.

[no rose colored glasses]

Smooth is online right now..be intresting to see what pops up NOW!!!!

Probably more shocking stuff for a reaction, it's a game now for her.

[shelby]

the 20 something that also lives at the GP's house is a HE now.  Really seriously wondering if this is one of AB's frineds.  The best friends of AB's B/f has been all over the local sites as well defending him and in one post he stated that the b/f was at the house with AB that day

Ilovecookies 
Registered User   Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 9 
 
No, my friend took at his cell phone to record because he said that he thought there was going to be a fight.

is this ILC the 20 y.o.?  ILC stated that they used to be a cutter - not something an older person would do, is it?

Yes, older people do it too....

[shelby]

i think if you google the grandparents address, or the daycare phone number, there is another couple listed as living at that address. I forget where I saw it though, and don't remember the dates. Sorry.

[no rose colored glasses]

i think if you google the grandparents address, or the daycare phone number, there is another couple listed as living at that address. I forget where I saw it though, and don't remember the dates. Sorry.

I don't remember that, this could be what Ilovecookies is talking about.

[Northern Rose]

NG just opened her blog for tonights show. Please leave a post so that Nancy knows this ia newsworthy. 

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/02/portrait-of-a-killer/#addcomment