Natalee Case Discussion #831 3/13/10 - 4/22/10

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http://tripreports.visitaruba.com/dynamic/servlet/ReportDetails?CAT_ID=29&ARTICLE_ID=1261

Submitted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 by: rona coster

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY. Nizar Perret Gentil, better known as Nizo, celebrated his 12th birthday at the Karma Lounge with Isaira Mansur as DJ and mom Muna and grandmother Elizabeth Habash as chaperons. The kids enjoyed the cool music, refreshments and a giant cake, in addition to the excitement of being in the ‘hot spot’ of town. An excellent student and a good tennis player, Nizo, reports that being a teenager does not feel any different, he is still the same Nizo, he says!

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I didn't know you became a teenager at 12.

Me either, and would have never dreamed of having a 12 year old's birthday party at a nightclub. 

 

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http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6538007/__Peter_R._laat_optie_open__.html

Google translation:

Fri April 16, 2010, 13:17 | 294 responses

Peter R. de Vries leaves open option

by Martijn Koolhoven

AMSTERDAM - Peter R. de Vries calls the shame and quick decisions in consultation with his lawyers about the upcoming broadcast of Sunday. "The facts that we like to be of paramount importance. That's worth a lot, but I do not say that the penalty but we have to defy. "
 


On the broadcast of Sunday is now being finalized. "The facts I want to reveal, are much more important than the privacy of Koos H.", said the crime reporter at the court of Amsterdam. "The court agrees with me, that it is shocking revelations, but leave the privacy part triple child murderer still outweigh the risks."

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http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6553150/__Peter_R._trekt_twee_miljoen_kijkers__.html

Google translation:

Mon April 19, 2010, 08:47

Peter R. de Vries attracts two million viewers

LONDON - Nearly two million people have looked at the SBS 6 on Sunday night broadcast of Peter R. de Vries. According to the Foundation for Research Watch program attracted more than 1.8 million viewers. The viewing figures were only 20 hours of the NOS News Studio Sport England and the crime program.


It was the third in a series on the convicted murderer Koos H. The crime reporter showed, after a court ruling, however, no hidden recordings of H. as he once did.

The Amsterdam court forbade De Vries, Endemol and the images of SBS Friday Koos H. broadcasting, on penalty of a fine of 500,000 for each of the three parties. Koos H. in 1982 was convicted of the murder of three young girls. A childhood friend of H. was recently equipped with a hidden camera and did so several times in H. visit to his cell. H. spoke in detail about the crimes for which he was convicted and a number of other unsolved cases.

In the last part of the triptych was Sunday the relationship between H. Hague court and the now deceased Cornelis Stolk examined. H. tells his old friend Nico van Stolk Empel that helped him several times in exchange for sexual services. Also, Stolk acquitted him after a violent robbery.

VVD MP Fred Teeven wants Minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin of Justice research shows, so that the bottom stones still comes up.

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http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6554855/__De_Vries_twijfelt_over_werk__.html

Google translation:

Mon April 19, 2010, 11:44

Google translation:

Peter R. de Vries doubts about work

HILVERSUM -
Peter R. de Vries does not know whether he still wants to continue his work as a crime reporter. "I go the next time or I think very carefully in this star will remain one. I would have liked to remain credible," said De Vries after his broadcast yesterday.


Peter R. de Vries.

De Vries had been broadcast about serial killer Koos H. change after a ruling by the judge. Sunday why he could no hidden camera footage of the Hague from the TBS broadcast clinic.

"I was sitting at home disappointed, angry and frustrated look. I find it not to digest shame, yes, a blatant miscarriage of justice, that our report has substantial interest entanglement, abuse and corruption within the judiciary, the judge should not be broadcast as we really were planning. How many compliments I received about the content too: the original broadcast was much stronger and more convincing, "the crime reporter on his website.

Therefore, he doubts whether his work under these conditions will still run. "I find it hard again next week after a draaideurcrimineel to enter that happen towards the judge does not know when I most notorious criminal in the Netherlands, a serial killer with three lawyers, more or less to run. When I rankles that ".

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http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/6569210/___Peter_R._de_Vries_moet_doorgaan___.html?p=37,2

Wed April 21, 2010, 11:59


Alberto Stegeman, "Peter R. de Vries must continue '

by our editorial staff

LONDON - Alberto Stegeman not hope that Peter R. de Vries his job as a crime reporter specify.


Alberto Stegeman.
Photo: Huitink Photography
 

Peter R. de Vries.

"It would be a great loss to journalism in the Netherlands," says Alberto at Times Media . "It's someone who for so long so many good things done and is doing. That would really be a very great loss."

Continues: "I want these calls to him to keep on going. There are many wrongs that we should lay bare."

Peter gave earlier this week that he was not sure whether he wants to continue his work as a crime reporter. He had been broadcast about serial killer Koos H. adjust after a ruling by the judge. Sunday why he could no hidden camera footage of the Hague from the TBS broadcast clinic.

"I go the next time or I think very carefully in this star will remain one," said Peter after the show. "I would have liked to remain credible. I find it hard again next week after a draaideurcrimineel to enter that happen towards the judge does not know when I most notorious criminal in the Netherlands, a serial killer with three lawyers, more or less to run. When I rankles that. "

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http://www.peterrdevries.nl/peters-dagboek/wil-ik-nog-door-als-misdaadjournalist/

Google translation:

Monday, April 19, 2010, 10:03 hours

Peters Diary

Let me through as a crime reporter?


Mr. Cornelis Stolk

During the broadcast of Sunday evening on the (sexual) relationship between serial killer Koos H. and Vice-President of the Hague tribunal, Mr. Cornelis Stolk, streamed indignant text messages from friends, relatives and those involved in again. Repeating words were "shocking" and "unbelievable" and quite a few contacts congratulated me with the breaking up of these hushed.


Koos H.

Shame
I could however not be happy. I sat at home disappointed, angry and frustrated look. I think it's a shame not to swallow, yes, a blatant miscarriage of justice, that our report has substantial interest entanglement, abuse and corruption within the judiciary, the judge may not be broadcast as fact that we were planning. How many compliments I received about the content too: the original broadcast was much stronger and more convincing. The "balloons" that we had to place, were too limited and a poor substitute for the real, full statements of Koos H., with his body language and facial expressions you could see. The court nevertheless considered that there was no need for broadcasting the hidden camera images and suggested that we could best quotes suffice. But balloons are no awkward silences, you see not grimacing, hear no hesitation or shame, and feel that something is not confessed.

The judge did not seem to understand that a dialog of five minutes between Nico and undercover child murderer Koos H. in written text bubbles on TV to 20 minutes and then you also a kind of watching teletext. Result: displaced tekstjes which we build all the dialogue had to omit. And why? Because to a lifelong career criminal sentenced to at least three - but probably more - children abducted, tortured, abused, murdered and dumped like garbage has, in his privacy must be protected. You do the TV but to turn and see (consumer) programs in which rogue machine repairers and unreliable car salesmen with a hidden camera filmed, but a serial killer in a crime program of all confessed and abuses in the judiciary reveals, with three lawyers (!) and a psychiatrist at the meeting and it's done!

Ratings
Which I find particularly amazing, but I have the impression that I am quite alone in. The traditional law-abiding Dutch press is mainly about the fact that we have ignored a verdict, rather that a flaming editorial writes that the objectionable and the time that these revelations we not allowed to broadcast words and images. Of course you can criticize my decision to the earlier images still broadcast, but a little journalistic approach here is really not prohibited. But the reality is that three quarters of the press is a smirk and chuckle that accursed crime reporter finally get back sometime called. That's much more fun!

That a serial killer confessed using it in the card is played is like taken for granted. The news that the broadcasts contained in many places is ignored. The essence of the revelation journalism - truth and revealing it! - Is most clearly not in my box (more) spent. I've read in recent weeks and heard so much nonsense to journalists, columnists and commentators who called knew nothing about, but nevertheless had a clear field. Many of them did not go beyond the old cliché that it's me " only with the audience goes , 'SBS 6 that " commercial TV "and that the survivors of child murders" really not waiting ' . Well. Never read that it is remarkable - and not so commercial - a program in three weeks time, nearly four hours of airtime a matter of thirty years ago, afraid to spend. Is that something at all is happening in our high-speed Internet era?

Revolt
And then you also have the scribes of NVJ the Dutch Association of Journalists, which also was immediately ready with an explanation that I respect the investigative journalism harmed by ignoring the ruling. It is the same NVJ that stopped when I was a journalist on two occasions on the street was attacked and molested because of the work I do. Nor have I heard when I NVJ was frequently threatened with death as a journalist because I just took verbal argument against Wilders and his Freedom Party. No, for that matter I myself have more respect for the often maligned and ridiculed Belgian press, which is not picked up when an injunction was a serial killer Marc Dutroux photo of publishing - Belgian Koos H. - And massively ignored. Sometimes you need to revolt. Sometimes you dare ignore a court order. Sometimes you have to abandon natural docility. Can the press in the Netherlands still learn something.

Bitter
But again, this diary does matter cause 'the press' says I 'not against criticism, "that I long toes I' I 'overwrought' or 'bitter' and that I to 'megalomania' suffer.

Whatever. I fully support what I did. For a minute. For this crime because I became a journalist. But I'll go the next time or I think very carefully in this star will remain one. I would have liked to remain credible. And that means I find it hard to again next week after a draaideurcrimineel who happens to be the way to the President not know, while I most notorious criminal in the Netherlands, a serial killer with three lawyers, more or less to run. By that I rankles.

Peter R. de Vries

Last update: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 10:13 hours

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http://www.peterrdevries.nl/cover/moraalridders-verborgen-cameras-en-ron-p./

Google translation:

Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 10:00

Peters Diary

Morality, hidden cameras and Ron P.



The sigh in my last diary I have another good think about whether I should do as a crime reporter in this constellation - in which revealing hidden camera images are prohibited by the court - by will, has led to quite a stir. Many readers were out there that I just might give in the towel and sent a total of several hundred troubled emails. The press picked it up, with the result that I did last night by Andrew Tijs van den Brink and Knevel were questioned about their programs' moral '. I have good to explain to the towel that I really can not just throw down. I have a contract for two years and am not a runaway. But the fact is that a judge's ruling calls for reflection: it still has meaning for such ambitious, difficult hidden camera of actions, as the court considers it in this way? Anyway, many thanks everyone for the many encouragements to continue to focus. That felt good!


Antoinette Hertsenberg

Hidden camera
By moral, I was confronted with a statement of TROS Radar Hertsenberg Antoinette, who was unhappy with the fact that we have ignored a court order. They feared there yourself to experience disadvantage. Well, the shirt is in journalism closer than the skirt. Now I think that the Dutch court evaluates each procedure itself and when Mrs. Hertsenberg the fence is really not for me to think about. Separately, I want to say that it is the consumer items that are quick and sometimes irresponsible use of hidden cameras. We have him in the case of Koos H. deployed in a multiple murderer was sentenced to life, but how many times I do not see that a consumer columns dubious ad salesman, a rogue machine repairman or other small roller be visualized in their whole and cut, is not counting. And these people are usually not at all suspected, indicted or convicted. There are only some consumer complaints received. Well I find that often go far. In that sense you could say that I am afraid that my program harmed the frivolous way in which Retail Antoinette Berg and her colleagues use the hidden camera. Well, let's just say that everyone must do his own thing, and especially his own decisions to make.

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More about what was revealed in Peter's latest here...warning...it's sickening.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://pasteurella.blogspot.com/2010/04/koos-hertogs-over-cornelis-stolk.html&ei=_uTPS43-AoGe8ATApoWtCw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Cornelis%2BStolk:%26hl%3Den

But then again, if the truth were known about what has kept Joran Van der Sloot from justice, how different a story would it be?  I really have to wonder.

 

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Truth and Justice for Natalee!

That's what it's all about Aruba,

We won't give up!

 

[Tamikosmom]

REMINDER

THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE KALPOES

Deepak Kalpoe's June 13th suspect statement regarding where he was prior to going to the Wyndman is a blatant lie.  His vehicle was had been observed by the handlers behind the gate in the van der Sloot's resident less than an hour prior to the Twitty group's arrival there.

What was going on behind those gates?  Had Paulus learned that Natalee Holloway's mother and stepfather were on the island looking for their daughter and damage control was where it was at?  Had Paulus been forwarned by LE, Charles Croes or Eric Williams that the Twitty group was on the way to his residence to confront Joran?

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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 44.  Alberto and Claudio went to the location, looked over the fence, and there it was.  A silver-gray Honda with big tailpipes and fancy features, just as the students had described.  They wrote down the license plate number and the address.  On the piece of paper is eveything we need: the name of Joran van der Sloot, his address, and the tag number of the car Natalee was seen getting into. 

Page 45:  At Noord it takes almost half an hour to get uniformed officers to accompany us to the van der Sloot home.

The silver Honda isn't here any more.

The officers sound their horns and sirens for about five minutes before a man answers the door.  He is Joran's father, Paulus van der Sloot.  He has his cell phone in his hand.  The police as to see Joran.  Paulus responds that he isn't home and calls his son to find out where he is.  He tells the police that Joran says he is in a poker tournament in the back of the casino at the Wyndham Hotel.  Again we load up, adding Paulus to this madcap possee riding in convoy with the police to the Wyndham.

Page 46:  We arrive at the Wydham, and the car barely stops rolling before I jump out ...

I run straight to the back where Joran told his father he would be and return to the front.  There is no sign of him.  I turn around to see Paulus on his cell phone aain.  He tells us that his son is back at their house now.  He is there with his friend, Deepak Kalpoe, the own of the silver Honda.

Page 47:  We are instructed to go back to the van der Sloot residence, where Joran is now waiting.

Page 48:  It’s about three o’clock in the morning .  It’s a school night.  They (Joran and Deepak) aren’t dressed as if they have been to a casino.  They are in grubby T-shirts and shorts.  I make a mental note that I will ask to be the casino footage from the Wyndham later on.  Just to see if they were really there tonight – or, rather, this morning.

Page 121:  And finally we learn from the Wyndham Hotel manager that Joran and Deepak do not appear on their security videos at the time the two claimed to be at the poker tournament there – the same time we were stand in the van der Sloots’ front yard in the wee hours of May, 30.


Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - June 13, 2005

Because all of the blackjack tables in the (Radisson) casino were full, Joran and I decided to go to the Wyndham Casino. Guido had said that he was going home and that he would drop off Andre at his place. Joran and me walked to my car that was parked on the parking lot. We got into the car and we drove to the Wyndham Hotel.

When I was parking my car in the parking lot, Joran's phone went off. Joran had said Paul. So I knew that it was Joran's father.

[Tamikosmom]

PETER DEVRIES

Newsweek - February 8, 2008

Do you believe that the Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, were involved in any way?

PETER DEVIRES:  No, not at all.  On the tapes Joran calls them stupid.  I don't believe they were involved.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/109260/page/3


THE COMPLETE STORY
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case

Peter Devries:

Jorans friends Deepak and Satish, who have been arrested for this case several times, are completely innocent.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm


BETH HOLLOWAY

Nancy Grace - August 26, 2006

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: We`ve known from day one...

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are way deeply involved in this.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/26/ng.01.html

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PETER DEVRIES

Newsweek - February 8, 2008

Do you believe that the Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, were involved in any way?

PETER DEVIRES:  No, not at all.  On the tapes Joran calls them stupid.  I don't believe they were involved.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/109260/page/3


THE COMPLETE STORY
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case

Peter Devries:

Jorans friends Deepak and Satish, who have been arrested for this case several times, are completely innocent.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm


BETH HOLLOWAY

Nancy Grace - August 26, 2006

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: We`ve known from day one...

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are way deeply involved in this.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/26/ng.01.html

I still don't see what Peter Devries' OPINION (if he indeed even still thinks that way) about the Kalpoes' involvement has to do with the price of tea in China. It has absolutely NO bearing on the Dr. Phil case.

[Tamikosmom]

QUESTIONS THAT DEMAND ANSWERS

It has been well over two years since the judge afforded the Kalpoes' representatives a five day extention to produce the requested case documents.

1.  Considering that Deepak and Satish are no longer suspects in the Natalee Holloway case ... could this be the reason that the court has not dismissed the defamation lawsuit?

2. Could the position of the Kalpoes' attorneys be that the non-suspect status regarding their clients imply that the disputed segment of Dr. Phil recording must stand alone and any possible manipulation implies defamation?

3.  Could it that the possible position of the Kalpoes' attorneys have merit that the judge has been weighing for the past two years?

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Brothers Questioned in Holloway Case Sue Dr. Phil
Judge Refuses to Dismiss Holloway-Related Suit Against CBS and 'Dr. Phil' McGraw
LOS ANGELES Feb 6, 2008 (AP)

A judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, the lead attorney for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward A. Ferns.

"I'm going to take Dr. Phil down," he said outside the courtroom. ....
 
The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and got rid of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

Cremer said the taped remarks by Van der Sloot, which were secretly recorded by a Dutch crime reporter, help his clients' defamation case.

"It pretty much exonerates my boys, doesn't it?" Cremer said.

In their dismissal motion, attorneys for CBS Television and McGraw maintained lawyers for the Kalpoes did not meet deadlines to produce all documents they have demanded concerning the criminal case investigation against the brothers in Aruba.

But the judge gave the Kalpoes' lawyers another five days to satisfy the document deadline.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/WireStory?id=4248025&page=1
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/WireStory?id=4248025&page=2


klaasend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
« Reply #494 on: February 27, 2010, 08:30:43 PM »

I haven't seen anyone here at SM that believes 100% of what Joran says whether it be the Range Rover story or the most recent falling off balcony story.  I do believe many feel as though with every lie is a smidgen of truth. 

It's clear to me that Joran is simply throwing stuff out there hoping it sticks and in the process making some $$.  He knows that he's already paid the consequence of unlawful disposal of a corpse.  Could be that the stories not involving K2 are in hopes of K2 getting a large settlement from Dr. Phil and sharing with Joran.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7126.msg1083973#msg1083973

[wreck]

QUESTIONS THAT DEMAND ANSWERS

It has been well over two years since the judge afforded the Kalpoes' representatives a five day extention to produce the requested case documents.

1.  Considering that Deepak and Satish are no longer suspects in the Natalee Holloway case ... could this be the reason that the court has not dismissed the defamation lawsuit?

2. Could the position of the Kalpoes' attorneys be that the non-suspect status regarding their clients imply that the disputed segment of Dr. Phil recording must stand alone and any possible manipulation implies defamation?

3.  Could it that the possible position of the Kalpoes' attorneys have merit that the judge has been weighing for the past two years?

++++++++


Brothers Questioned in Holloway Case Sue Dr. Phil
Judge Refuses to Dismiss Holloway-Related Suit Against CBS and 'Dr. Phil' McGraw
LOS ANGELES Feb 6, 2008 (AP)

A judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, the lead attorney for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward A. Ferns.

"I'm going to take Dr. Phil down," he said outside the courtroom. ....
 
The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and got rid of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

Cremer said the taped remarks by Van der Sloot, which were secretly recorded by a Dutch crime reporter, help his clients' defamation case.

"It pretty much exonerates my boys, doesn't it?" Cremer said.

In their dismissal motion, attorneys for CBS Television and McGraw maintained lawyers for the Kalpoes did not meet deadlines to produce all documents they have demanded concerning the criminal case investigation against the brothers in Aruba.

But the judge gave the Kalpoes' lawyers another five days to satisfy the document deadline.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/WireStory?id=4248025&page=1
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/WireStory?id=4248025&page=2


klaasend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
« Reply #494 on: February 27, 2010, 08:30:43 PM »

I haven't seen anyone here at SM that believes 100% of what Joran says whether it be the Range Rover story or the most recent falling off balcony story.  I do believe many feel as though with every lie is a smidgen of truth. 

It's clear to me that Joran is simply throwing stuff out there hoping it sticks and in the process making some $$.  He knows that he's already paid the consequence of unlawful disposal of a corpse.  Could be that the stories not involving K2 are in hopes of K2 getting a large settlement from Dr. Phil and sharing with Joran.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7126.msg1083973#msg1083973

Where I think you are missing the point, is this:

The Judge in the Dr. Phil case CANNOT and HAS NOT considered any actual MERITS of either side's case. The only thing the judge CAN weigh so far is whether or not PROCEEDURAL requirements are being met. Nothing about the MERITS of the case can even be considered until an actual trial.

[Tamikosmom]

Wreck

Why do you think that the judge ... after affording the Kalpoes a five day extention in February, 2008 to produce the documents ... has not bowed to the request of McGraw's attorney to dismiss the case.

Janet

[wreck]

I cannot answer what the Judge is basing his rulings on -- but it is a sad fact that in American law today -- cases are postponed, extended, and delayed almost indefinitely. The cases are so back-logged that it is routine to continue to delay and delay and delay. All it takes is one side to simply ask one question or make a request for a minute ruling for the judge to simply postpone another "hearing" a few months off. Sad, but Civil cases often drag on for many many years. When the Kalpoe attorneys run out of these tricks (or they run out of their money supply) it might eventually stop.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Wreck

Why do you think that the judge ... after affording the Kalpoes a five day extention in February, 2008 to produce the documents ... has not bowed to the request of McGraw's attorney to dismiss the case.

Janet

Maybe it's because the Kalpoe's US attorneys have used the law to their advantage, which also might include their failing to apply for their visas in the proper manner. 

Of course, I am just throwing this out there...I do not have legal background...far from it.

[2NJSons_Mom]

I cannot answer what the Judge is basing his rulings on -- but it is a sad fact that in American law today -- cases are postponed, extended, and delayed almost indefinitely. The cases are so back-logged that it is routine to continue to delay and delay and delay. All it takes is one side to simply ask one question or make a request for a minute ruling for the judge to simply postpone another "hearing" a few months off. Sad, but Civil cases often drag on for many many years. When the Kalpoe attorneys run out of these tricks (or they run out of their money supply) it might eventually stop.

Well said, Wreck.  Our property was comprimised during escavation for road work.  Even though it wasn't our fault, we were subpeonaed to appear in court along with the county & the contractor.  We lost personal time about a half dozen times, only to find out that someone couldn't attend, didn't show, or it was a religious holiday.  It finally was heard in a court outside the jurisdiction and resolved.  The attorneys found ways to stall and we could not control it.

[Tamikosmom]

Wreck

Why do you think that the judge ... after affording the Kalpoes a five day extention in February, 2008 to produce the documents ... has not bowed to the request of McGraw's attorney to dismiss the case.

Janet

Maybe it's because the Kalpoe's US attorneys have used the law to their advantage, which also might include their failing to apply for their visas in the proper manner. 

Of course, I am just throwing this out there...I do not have legal background...far from it.

Neither do I.  That is why I am speculating until the truth can be revealed.

Thank you 2NJ

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

I cannot answer what the Judge is basing his rulings on -- but it is a sad fact that in American law today -- cases are postponed, extended, and delayed almost indefinitely. The cases are so back-logged that it is routine to continue to delay and delay and delay. All it takes is one side to simply ask one question or make a request for a minute ruling for the judge to simply postpone another "hearing" a few months off. Sad, but Civil cases often drag on for many many years. When the Kalpoe attorneys run out of these tricks (or they run out of their money supply) it might eventually stop.

Thank you Wreck.

I hope you are right.

Janet

[2NJSons_Mom]

 

Getting closer to a new thread....

[wreck]

how many do we need?

[wreck]

5?? 

[2NJSons_Mom]

5...4....3...????