Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #3 7/5/10 - 7/8/10

[Titch]

Hi Monkeys. I haven't posted in this thread, but have been lurking....one thing that always seemed odd to me and I want others opinions.  On the day Kyron went missing, dad was working from home. Apparently, both mom and dad (and therefore, younger sister) went to the bus stop to meet Kyron. That just strikes me as odd. If my husband was going to meet my son, I would stay home with my daughter or vice versa. In my neighborhood, entire families do not go and meet the bus. I thought this seemed very staged. Am I off base?

Hi mgo, long time no see!  < waves >

Yes, it seems really odd to me as well.  We've heard from Kaine that they had plans to go for ice cream after he got off the bus.  Yet still, that doesn't explain the entire family showing up to pick him up from the bus.  If anything, everyone hops in the car and go to pick him up from school, then off to get the ice cream.  Would make it more fun for him I would think.  They walked to the bus stop tho.  Was that to establish an alibi of sorts?  This is the strangest case ever.  IMO. 

Hey Wyks,

I completely agree with you, which leads me to my original thought. I don't think Kaine knew Terri drove Kyron to school before Kyron left for school on June 4th. I was thinking he just assumed Kyron rode the bus. Maybe Terri told Kaine she took Kyron to school early in the morning bc Kyron wanted her to see his project all set up or bc he wanted her to see the Science Fair with him before everyone came in & it got crowded. It was going around that someone on Sauvie Island witnessed Terri in her Mustang followed by a white truck barrelling through the roads, even said that one of the vehicles veered off the road so they took the plate # & called it in. Has this been verified bc if it has I haven't found it?

Now, something I can't get out of my head...Masons. It bugs me that kristian is just in jail. It bugs me that he's only in there for 6 months. 6 MONTHS! When researching their lodges & members, I saved a bunch of pictures that show them working hand in hand with several authorities in various venues. My grandfather was a Mason, worked at DuPont's for many many years, was chief of Fire & Rescue in my hometown, he volunteered for everything & involved himself in tons of charities. It's a brotherhood just as much as a fraternity is with a major university - you'll always be protected. Ok, now that all that is explained, is it possible that Kaine is being overlooked & receiving preferential treatment?

In my eyes, it's still pointing to Terri. I'm attempting to be objective...but what about if it's neither of them but a product of both of their many indiscretions? Nothing's adding up & Kyron's still missing. It makes my heart ache.

[Tamikosmom]

Son and Dil just popped in for a quick visit and ... I talked them into a game of Scabble.

Maybe answers regarding Kyron will be forthcoming tomorrow.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
7:50 PM PT

[ospainter]

Rob,

Honestly, the video I saw of Tanner on BOC, I found him credible. I have to wonder if there was a volunteer that day to help in moving the children and that is who he was referring to, not a sub like School says was not there. Might be more of his story I haven't seen or heard, but he described/talked without missing a beat IMO.

Hard to believe someone in a small area, out and about goes unnoticed.

I live in a small area, got a phone call one day, "saw your husband going toward hospital is everyone ok"? umm no, he is working near there. Everyone knows everyone, but no one saw Teri that day that I have heard. She takes him to school in the car, but LE is looking for her in a white truck.

Making my head spin.

OS
 

OS

I believe that others saw both Terri and Kyron that morning but ... Kaine has instructed anybody with infomation not to talk to the media .. just law enforcement and ... law enforcement has no comment ... no comment ... no comment ...

However ... the Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby did confirm that teachers did observed both Terri and Kyron on the mornnig of June 4, 2010 prior to 8:45 AM.

In the Caylee Anthony's case .... transcripts and tapes of suspect and witness statements as well as 911 calls were release lickity split.

OS ... have a cuppa green tea ... no more spinning head.

Janet

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THE MORNING OF JUNE 4, 2010

Details emerge about the day Kyron Horman turned up missing
Published: Saturday, June 05, 2010, 11:21 PM
Updated: Friday, June 18, 2010, 5:02 PM

THE BACKPACK - THE COAT

Instead of taking the bus near his home off Cornelius Pass Road as usual, he hopped into the car with his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, who drove him to Skyline Elementary School.

They arrived sometime after the school opened about 8 a.m., went to his classroom, dropped off his coat and backpack and he showed his stepmother his exhibit, "The Red-Eyed Tree Frog."

THE PHOTO

Horman, who has raised Kyron since he was an infant, snapped a picture of him standing in front of it that she later posted on her Facebook page. .....

THE WITNESSES
 
Terri often volunteers at the school, working closely with Kyron's teacher, Kristina Porter. Shelby said that Porter saw Kyron in her classroom with his stepmom before 8:45 a.m. and another instructor reported seeing him in another classroom at some point.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html


Kyron Horman disappears during Oregon school science fair
June 7, 2010

THE WITNESSES

Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.

http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=28


Sources: Search for Kyron Horman Focuses on Step-Mom, Cell Records
4:52 PM June 17th, 2010

THE CELL PHONE RECORD

The island is more than five miles from rural Skyline Elementary School, where Horman was reported missing June 4. But rescuers on horseback, on foot and in dive teams have repeatedly scoured the island beginning around June 10 and continuing this week — even after Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton called off other major search operations last Sunday.

WW has learned that federal, county and city law-enforcement officials say the reason for the search of Sauvie Island is that cell-phone records reveal Kyron’s step-mother, Terri Moulton Horman, may have been on the island the day he disappeared.

http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/06/17/sources-search-for-kyron-horman-focuses-on-step-mom-cell-records/

Janet,

TY for the suggestion, going for tea right now..

I did read that the PTA President Zimmerman (think that's her last name) saw them also, not leaving just there at the school.

OS

[Wyks]

i often wonder how that went
dad prob hardly ever meets the bus
maybe he says kitty and ill go
TH says oh what a treat for kyron we will all go
IDK, just wonder why all 3 went

i see i didnt finish my thought

IDK, just wonder why all 3 went, as that looks like the loving close knit fam
 that is portrayed, yet we have a hire for murder, and kyron missing

I think that's the problem, CW... I think 'PLAN A' was to present this family as a loving, close-knit family. 

When some things got out in such a way as to throw that picture to the public askew, seems there was a scramble for 'PLAN B', which was something like, 'ok well maybe we aren't so close-knit, but we're still a loving family, see??'  And out comes Kaine who explained how he walked his wife and daughter to the bus stop in order to meet the bus, and then they were gonna go get ice cream.  (what kid wouldn't be thrilled with that, just before having dinner, see how loving we are?)  ... nevermind that no one else (not even Terri) had mentioned Kaine's having been at the bus stop that day. 

When other things got out in such a way as throw that picture to the public askew, seems there was a scramble for 'PLAN C', which was something like, 'ok well maybe we actually aren't so close-knit or loving, but we're a family, see??'  And family sticks together.  Well, except that we're actually three against one.  And out they come for a 'media event', with Terri as the target.  Pointing fingers, she knows something she needs to tell.  (Meaning that 'we' don't know anything, we have nothing to tell). 

Seems to many of us that there's something more major going on than a child having gone missing (if that wasn't bad enough!).  Something needed Plan A, Plan B, and Plan C in place.  When that didn't work... seems there was no Plan D and all holy hell broke loose. 

Now maybe we'll get to the truth.  Or not.  Maybe we'll never know... until/unless someone who does know something starts talking.  That's the only thing that will bring this whole charade to a screeching halt. 

Poor Kyron.  I'm hoping he's still alive.  So when I hear, 'bring Kyron home'......... Which home?  Which parent?  Couldn't even begin to guess which would be best for him, if any. 

IMO. 

[Tamikosmom]

I am speechless!

Janet

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Missing Child - Kyron Horman, 7
Posted on Jun 07, 2010

Having my own children, including a 7-year-old boy, this especially resonates with me.  Kryon Horman has been missing since Friday (6/4).  He was last seen at Skyline Elementary School in Portland, Oregon.  Please circulate and contact the authorities if you have any information.  Below is an email from Kyron's father.
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From: Horman, Kaine A
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: FW: Kaine Horman's son is missing

All,

If you have seen local Oregon news or been browsing the internet or FaceBook there is a good chance you have seen an article similar to the one that Becky forwarded (below).  While this note is difficult for me to write in this state of mind I felt it necessary for Kyron’s sake.

Optional actions for you:

The Intel network is large and wide-reaching.  Many have asked me what they can do to help us and my answer is the following:

1.       Forward Kyron’s information to as many people as you feel comfortable with; the more people that see this will increase our chances of finding him

2.       Do not speak to any media if contacted; I am trying to contact Intel legal to give them the heads up and help with this situation

Physical description at the time of his disappearance (picture is show in Becky’s note and here):

He is 3 foot 8 and 50 pounds, with blue eyes and brown hair. He was wearing black cargo pants, white socks, worn black Sketcher tennis shoes with orange trim and dark-colored t-shirt with the "CSI" show logo

Police Hot Line Number:

(503) 261-2847

Some rough background:

The article that Becky forwarded is pretty accurate with details.  He was dropped off at school about 8:45 and went missing sometime between then and 9 or 9:30am.  We did not know he was not at school until we went to get him off of the bus at 3:30 and he was nowhere to be found.  The bus driver immediately called the school which responded that his teacher had not seen him all day in class, at which point we notified police in partnership with the school.  It is still unknown whether he left school grounds on his own or was abducted.  Be assured that there are currently an amazing number of agencies and amount of person-power being applied to the search and investigation.

Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers for Kyron’s safe return.  I will update the group once status changes which will hopefully be soon.  At the time of this note Kyron has now been missing for ~48 hours; time is of the essence.

Kaine Horman
Enterprise Business Architect
Intel Corporation

http://ackerlaw.com/posts/2010/06/07/missing_child__kyron_horman_7

BUMPED

[ospainter]

Son and Dil just popped in for a quick visit and ... I talked them into a game of Scabble.

Maybe answers regarding Kyron will be forthcoming tomorrow.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
7:50 PM PT

Nite Janet,

have fun.

Think I'm gonna lay back and just rest my weary bones.

OS

[Claycat]

I'm wondering if the psychic poster is Allison Dubois.

[Wyks]

Janet: I agree with your post. I get the feeling hubs is setting her up. That being said, I reserve the right to change my opinion LOL.

I agree to the set up, big time.  Just cannot figure out how it's going down seemingly with LE's blessing.  That just boggles my mind.

As as for you changing your opinion... LOLOL  You're in good company!   

 

[Wyks]

BUMPED

Guess some of us aren't as speechless as you may be Janet, cuz we've ermmmm seen this and talked about it at great length.  I know several of you were busy then tho.  I'm all talked out on this at the moment.  Well.. no I'm not.  LMAO.  This email from Kaine is what helped me to start looking in his direction, seeing his apparent need for control. 

Sometimes I think it might be a good idea to have our discussions by subject, along with a daily thread.  Cuz a lot of good discussions are lost along the way, getting buried in threads that many don't have time to wade thru. 

[ozziesmom]

Hi Monkeys. I haven't posted in this thread, but have been lurking....one thing that always seemed odd to me and I want others opinions.  On the day Kyron went missing, dad was working from home. Apparently, both mom and dad (and therefore, younger sister) went to the bus stop to meet Kyron. That just strikes me as odd. If my husband was going to meet my son, I would stay home with my daughter or vice versa. In my neighborhood, entire families do not go and meet the bus. I thought this seemed very staged. Am I off base?

i often wonder how that went
dad prob hardly ever meets the bus
maybe he says kitty and ill go
TH says oh what a treat for kyron we will all go
IDK, just wonder why all 3 went

Hi Monkeys, jumping in here.....They may have all gone to hear about how the science fair project went over...Was there a telent show as well? Or is that not right?

[Claycat]

BUMPED

Guess some of us aren't as speechless as you may be Janet, cuz we've ermmmm seen this and talked about it at great length.  I know several of you were busy then tho.  I'm all talked out on this at the moment.  Well.. no I'm not.  LMAO.  This email from Kaine is what helped me to start looking in his direction, seeing his apparent need for control. 

Sometimes I think it might be a good idea to have our discussions by subject, along with a daily thread.  Cuz a lot of good discussions are lost along the way, getting buried in threads that many don't have time to wade thru. 

I think that is a good idea, Wyks. 

The funny thing about this whole weird case is that I wasn't on the fence at the beginning, and now I am.  It is beginning to look like too much of a setup, and Kaine's actions bother me a lot!

[ozziesmom]

I'm not so sure that Terri had the baby with her that day, wouldn't at least ONE witness have mentioned the baby? Not a single mention that she was with mom....

Where's Kyron?

[d in texas]

Interesting posts at OregonLive.com by 'Sincerelyours'.  Here are the posts all on one page.  Supposedly lives in Arizona, yet has local 'info', including about the gardner and the 'Phyllis' some are talking about on the net.  Supposedly has known Terri's parents for 10 years.  Posts on this page go in order from the bottom of page up:

http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/rosecitybluessinger/index.html



   

That is really interesting!!  Do we know if she is for real?  Interesting, have to think about it all for awhile.  Thankyou for sharing that.

[d in texas]

I am speechless!

Janet

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Missing Child - Kyron Horman, 7
Posted on Jun 07, 2010

Having my own children, including a 7-year-old boy, this especially resonates with me.  Kryon Horman has been missing since Friday (6/4).  He was last seen at Skyline Elementary School in Portland, Oregon.  Please circulate and contact the authorities if you have any information.  Below is an email from Kyron's father.
______

From: Horman, Kaine A
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: FW: Kaine Horman's son is missing

All,

If you have seen local Oregon news or been browsing the internet or FaceBook there is a good chance you have seen an article similar to the one that Becky forwarded (below).  While this note is difficult for me to write in this state of mind I felt it necessary for Kyron’s sake.

Optional actions for you:

The Intel network is large and wide-reaching.  Many have asked me what they can do to help us and my answer is the following:

1.       Forward Kyron’s information to as many people as you feel comfortable with; the more people that see this will increase our chances of finding him

2.       Do not speak to any media if contacted; I am trying to contact Intel legal to give them the heads up and help with this situation

Physical description at the time of his disappearance (picture is show in Becky’s note and here):

He is 3 foot 8 and 50 pounds, with blue eyes and brown hair. He was wearing black cargo pants, white socks, worn black Sketcher tennis shoes with orange trim and dark-colored t-shirt with the "CSI" show logo

Police Hot Line Number:

(503) 261-2847

Some rough background:

The article that Becky forwarded is pretty accurate with details.  He was dropped off at school about 8:45 and went missing sometime between then and 9 or 9:30am.  We did not know he was not at school until we went to get him off of the bus at 3:30 and he was nowhere to be found.  The bus driver immediately called the school which responded that his teacher had not seen him all day in class, at which point we notified police in partnership with the school.  It is still unknown whether he left school grounds on his own or was abducted.  Be assured that there are currently an amazing number of agencies and amount of person-power being applied to the search and investigation.

Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers for Kyron’s safe return.  I will update the group once status changes which will hopefully be soon.  At the time of this note Kyron has now been missing for ~48 hours; time is of the essence.

Kaine Horman
Enterprise Business Architect
Intel Corporation

http://ackerlaw.com/posts/2010/06/07/missing_child__kyron_horman_7

Why did he feel the need from the start to avoid MEDIA????  sorry but if my child/loved one even my darn dog was missing the MEDIA would be the one to put the word out.  I remember hearing on June 4th-6th on a report that the family would not speak to the media, and that struck me as so out of the norm....in hindsight ??was he having an affair, was HE hiding that, what happened in May with the landscaper and the 911 call, why was that sealed right away when Kyron vanished into thin air.  Something is so not right her, sorry the step mother is just too obvious. I don't get it at all...where is this adorable little boy? 
Question did the birth parents ever go out and search?  Visions of Caylee Anthony coming back....

[Kat_Gram]

So, I am waffling about my opinion also.
Landscape guy did not come forward on his own, according to NG program. LE found him. Then, he comes up with this story. Kaine knows nothing about LS guy ??
Terri has hired a big name criminal attorney. Well, getting a RO lifted is a job for a criminal attorney. There were some sort of threats made, according to who, Kaine?
Or his gf ? Kaine didn't want LE looking at his laptop. Kaine didn't want ppl at his work speaking to the media. Probably everyone in the office knew the water cooler chat  about the affair with his co worker. 
..
I don't like the way just info pointing at Terri is coming out and there are too many questions about Kaine I would like the answers to. Like how far away is his work from the school ? He doesn't go to the science fair, but he can take off and work from home that day. Or was it the afternoon ?
This could be twisted either way and maybe more will come out when and if Terri tries to get the RO lifted.
Why don't I like either Kaine or Terri ? Wife ill, goes for treatment, gets better, no husband and babysitter marries husband. Gets visitation with kid. Guess she could have fought that, but maybe still not on her feet at the time.       

[ospainter]

O/T

Another child missing

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/article_7fb32622-88ac-11df-ba71-0017a4a78c22.html

Mo. child disappears from front yard

Police in Louisiana, Mo., have issued an Amber Alert for Alisa Maier, 4, who disappeared tonight.

Alisa was playing in her front yard with her brother when a black four- door passenger car pulled up and took the child from the yard about 8 p.m., according to police.

Alisa is white with brown hair and brown eyes and 3 feet tall. She was last seen wearing a white T-shirt and blue jean shorts.

The only description of the driver of the car was that he was a young white man with dark hair.

Anyone with information about the abduction is asked to call the Louisiana Police Department at 573-754-4021.

Louisiana is on the Mississippi River, about 80 miles north of St. Louis.

OS

Klaasend has started a thread for Alisa in the Missing Person's Forum.  Link to Alisa Maier's thread:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8221.msg0#new

[crazybabyborg]

Hi Monkeys!

I've had to read a lot to catch up with this case............. and I'm sure I've missed some things.

I'm more confused than when I started about what I think happened, at this point. Usually, when following a case, someone emerges as the bad guy, even if the bad guy is a total stranger and has no name yet. This case is confusing. I was sure the stepmom knew what happened and that Dad didn't. Now I'm not so sure. Geez......

One thing does seem clear to me. Tragically, I do believe Kyron is no longer with us. That's the one thing that seems to have emerged in my mind, and the one thing I hope I'm most wrong about.

[klaasend]

Hi Monkeys!

I've had to read a lot to catch up with this case............. and I'm sure I've missed some things.

I'm more confused than when I started about what I think happened, at this point. Usually, when following a case, someone emerges as the bad guy, even if the bad guy is a total stranger and has no name yet. This case is confusing. I was sure the stepmom knew what happened and that Dad didn't. Now I'm not so sure. Geez......

One thing does seem clear to me. Tragically, I do believe Kyron is no longer with us. That's the one thing that seems to have emerged in my mind, and the one thing I hope I'm most wrong about.

I think we are all confused.  I'm just hoping that Kyron is tucked away someplace and being taken care of.

[cartfly]

How is it that Terri was in the white truck that day but there were reports of a mustang driving erratically on Sauvie Island? (mustang story from first thread) How did Kaine get to work? Do they own more than "two" vehicles?

[cartfly]

New story on Blinks page:

http://blinkoncrime.com/