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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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March 03, 2010, 12:33:12 PM »
Quote from: Anna on March 03, 2010, 11:25:38 AM
I think the reason Joran does not implicate others prior to Andre is because he has no assurance that they will go along with his story and thinks they likely will not. He can't say they did this and that without knowing they will not directly contradict his current version of events.
Now why he has suddenly decided to implicate Andre baffles me. I wonder why Andre is not speaking out about this and why he has not been interviewed by the local press on this. Maybe because there is an ongoing investigation? Has Andre been told he can't discuss this because of the investigation?
I would really like to hear Andre's version of events.
Perhaps Joran wouldn't dare implicate ones involved. They might spill it all, to save themselves.
I would love to hear Andre's version too Anna.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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I'm wondering where the heck Andre is and why hasn't he denied everything. Isn't that the normal protocol here?
And what would the Aruba polis do anyway - they didn't do anything to two mutton heads driving a rape mobile all over the island.
couldn't find any evidence
so what would they find after five years with big ole fatty?
and ya know, Joran can claim anyone is his accomplice - it doesn't matter.
Joran is NOT, I repeat
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going to jail for this crime. That's been decided and he knows it.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: Rob on March 03, 2010, 01:27:19 PM
I'm wondering where the heck Andre is and why hasn't he denied everything. Isn't that the normal protocol here?
And what would the Aruba polis do anyway - they didn't do anything to two mutton heads driving a rape mobile all over the island.
couldn't find any evidence
so what would they find after five years with big ole fatty?
and ya know, Joran can claim anyone is his accomplice - it doesn't matter.
Joran is NOT, I repeat
NOT
going to jail for this crime. That's been decided and he knows it.
His Myspace, which up until yesterday was public but he hadn't visited since 2/14/2010 was just made private either late yesterday or today.
http://www.myspace.com/andremsantos
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Blanken : he says she fell over a railing after snorting cocaine. But were not going to haul his ass in and question him further. Sorry to bother you Mister Joran.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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March 03, 2010, 01:40:46 PM »
Quote from: Rob on March 03, 2010, 01:27:19 PM
I'm wondering where the heck Andre is and why hasn't he denied everything. Isn't that the normal protocol here?
And what would the Aruba polis do anyway - they didn't do anything to two mutton heads driving a rape mobile all over the island.
couldn't find any evidence
so what would they find after five years with big ole fatty?
and ya know, Joran can claim anyone is his accomplice - it doesn't matter.
Joran is NOT, I repeat
NOT
going to jail for this crime. That's been decided and he knows it.
ITA Rob. There will be no justice for Natalee. There COULD be, but there won't be.
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Blanken : it's inappropriate to bring him for questioning during the time of his father's death. I have provided the media with a list of other inappropriate situations and / or dates that are also inappropriate. Those include; Any day ending in a "Y", All 12 days of Christmas, All 8 days of Hanukkah, The Holy month of Ramadan, St John's day, Easter Holiday, Palm Sunday and Ash Wednesday, The Sabbath, Columbus day, President's day, Oduber's Birthday, Nadira's and Mr Rameriz's Anniversary, Any time Juile Renfro is in rehab, Any time the Kalpoe's are having their unibrows waxed, Carnival, Labor day, Memorial day, Anita's back shaving day, July 4th, July 5th, July 6th, July 7th, Any time the prosecutor's office is closed for the 2 to 6 week holiday, and of course May 30th.
This should help the media understand what's appropriate and the proper timing and situations under which we can question Mr Joran. Thank you for your understanding.
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Rob,
I agree. Joran knows he will never be arrested for this. I think Aruba still thinks it will magically just go away. They are very slow on the uptake and tend to have that disconnect from reality. It seems as though a group of them get together and after a drink or twenty they decide what is likely to happen.
More times than not, they are totally wrong. They still think the less said or done, the sooner this goes away. If they were to arrest Joran and actually hold a trial, I think they may fear constant media scrutiny and there is no telling just what Joran might say.
I think it was after one such meeting replete with drinks that the blundering decision was made that the Kalpoes should sue Dr. Phil.
Aruba has been given yet another opportunity to do the right thing but instead they bungle it yet again. They would screw up the proverbial two car funeral procession.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: Rob on March 03, 2010, 01:45:42 PM
Blanken : it's inappropriate to bring him for questioning during the time of his father's death. I have provided the media with a list of other inappropriate situations and / or dates that are also inappropriate. Those include; Any day ending in a "Y", All 12 days of Christmas, All 8 days of Hanukkah, The Holy month of Ramadan, St John's day, Easter Holiday, Palm Sunday and Ash Wednesday, The Sabbath, Columbus day, President's day, Oduber's Birthday, Nadira's and Mr Rameriz's Anniversary, Any time Juile Renfro is in rehab, Any time the Kalpoe's are having their unibrows waxed, Carnival, Labor day, Memorial day, Anita's back shaving day, July 4th, July 5th, July 6th, July 7th, Any time the prosecutor's office is closed for the 2 to 6 week holiday, and of course May 30th.
This should help the media understand what's appropriate and the proper timing and situations under which we can question Mr Joran. Thank you for your understanding.
Rob, You forgot the Queen's Birthday, Frosted Flake Memorial Day and National Chollar House Week!
Hilarious, I might add and oh, so true!
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Quote from: Anna on March 03, 2010, 01:51:15 PM
Rob,
I agree. Joran knows he will never be arrested for this. I think Aruba still thinks it will magically just go away. They are very slow on the uptake and tend to have that disconnect from reality. It seems as though a group of them get together and after a drink or twenty they decide what is likely to happen.
More times than not, they are totally wrong. They still think the less said or done, the sooner this goes away. If they were to arrest Joran and actually hold a trial, I think they may fear constant media scrutiny and there is no telling just what Joran might say.
I think it was after one such meeting replete with drinks that the blundering decision was made that the Kalpoes should sue Dr. Phil.
Aruba has been given yet another opportunity to do the right thing but instead they bungle it yet again. They would screw up the proverbial two car funeral procession.
righto bucko and it's all magically delicious. Could you just imagine what that lunatic might say if he got on the stand??? OMG, that would be hilarious as he blames EVERYONE down there... I would love LOVE love to see that!
Joran on the stand = new name for Aruba, and I can think of a few
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: klaasend on March 03, 2010, 01:31:53 PM
His Myspace, which up until yesterday was public but he hadn't visited since 2/14/2010 was just made private either late yesterday or today.
http://www.myspace.com/andremsantos
Thanks Klaas. I'm glad to know he finally woke up!
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Quote from: Rob on March 03, 2010, 01:32:10 PM
Blanken : he says she fell over a railing after snorting cocaine. But were not going to haul his ass in and question him further. Sorry to bother you Mister Joran.
Any statements Joran makes are now strictly voluntary. And we all know how reluctant Joran is to discuss this unless there are at least a million watching and the price is right! He's such a shy, sensitive type, it could tramuatize him for life and might cause him to become some kind of pathological lying predator.
Oh, wait. . . . uh, nevermind.
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Does anyone recognize any of the others in the photo from Andre's MySpace? I don't. They are still doing the outdated gangsta hand signs. Maybe someone should tell them those are no longer kewl.
But at least he appears to have some friends. I do have to wonder why he doesn't assemble a few of them and pay his BFF Joran a visit while Joran is within reach. I'd be more than a little miffed were I Friend A.
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Quote from: Anna on March 03, 2010, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 03, 2010, 01:32:10 PM
Blanken : he says she fell over a railing after snorting cocaine. But were not going to haul his ass in and question him further. Sorry to bother you Mister Joran.
Any statements Joran makes are now strictly voluntary. And we all know how reluctant Joran is to discuss this unless there are at least a million watching and the price is right! He's such a shy, sensitive type, it could tramuatize him for life and might cause him to become some kind of pathological lying predator.
Oh, wait. . . . uh, nevermind.
Tacopino said this case made Joran a psychological mess lol. Taco forgot that Joran was in therapy long before this case - and he belongs locked-up in Den Dolder with Johan wrapped up snuggly in a straight jacket and a sippy cup.
This case made Taco a psychological mess.
Keeping the lid on Joran is a challenge he should have never accepted, you know he's regretting it.
I wonder if there are any cases of the client being killed by their attorney.
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BTW, the Joran's Latest Confession Show was shown again yesterday on RTL. If a million saw it the first time, then well over a million have seen it now.
And they have to be wondering why nothing has been done the same as we are.
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Nobody will forget. Not in 5, 10, 20, or 30 years.
History has been written. Their lives were over in the first 10 days.
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Quote from: carpe noctem on March 03, 2010, 02:15:27 PM
Nobody will forget. Not in 5, 10, 20, or 30 years.
History has been written. Their lives were over in the first 10 days.
how simple it was....
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: Anna on March 03, 2010, 02:06:14 PM
Does anyone recognize any of the others in the photo from Andre's MySpace? I don't. They are still doing the outdated gangsta hand signs. Maybe someone should tell them those are no longer kewl.
But at least he appears to have some friends. I do have to wonder why he doesn't assemble a few of them and pay his BFF Joran a visit while Joran is within reach. I'd be more than a little miffed were I Friend A.
None of them are people from the Joran days that I can tell. Anna if you got a chance to read his Myspace blog before he set it to private, he doesn't sound like a very happy kid. I seriously worry about what Joran throwing him under the bus like this will do to him.
ANDRE - DON'T LET JORAN DO THIS TO YOU!
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Quote from: blah on March 03, 2010, 12:33:05 PM
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It might be Aflac!
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Quote from: Rob on March 03, 2010, 01:45:42 PM
Blanken : it's inappropriate to bring him for questioning during the time of his father's death. I have provided the media with a list of other inappropriate situations and / or dates that are also inappropriate. Those include; Any day ending in a "Y", All 12 days of Christmas, All 8 days of Hanukkah, The Holy month of Ramadan, St John's day, Easter Holiday, Palm Sunday and Ash Wednesday, The Sabbath, Columbus day, President's day, Oduber's Birthday, Nadira's and Mr Rameriz's Anniversary, Any time Juile Renfro is in rehab, Any time the Kalpoe's are having their unibrows waxed, Carnival, Labor day, Memorial day, Anita's back shaving day, July 4th, July 5th, July 6th, July 7th, Any time the prosecutor's office is closed for the 2 to 6 week holiday, and of course May 30th.
This should help the media understand what's appropriate and the proper timing and situations under which we can question Mr Joran. Thank you for your understanding.
That's about right.
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Quote from: Anna on March 03, 2010, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 03, 2010, 01:32:10 PM
Blanken : he says she fell over a railing after snorting cocaine. But were not going to haul his ass in and question him further. Sorry to bother you Mister Joran.
Any statements Joran makes are now strictly voluntary. And we all know how reluctant Joran is to discuss this unless there are at least a million watching and the price is right! He's such a shy, sensitive type, it could tramuatize him for life and might cause him to become some kind of pathological lying predator.
Oh, wait. . . . uh, nevermind.
Tacopino said this case made Joran a psychological mess lol. Taco forgot that Joran was in therapy long before this case - and he belongs locked-up in Den Dolder with Johan wrapped up snuggly in a straight jacket and a sippy cup.
This case made Taco a psychological mess.
Keeping the lid on Joran is a challenge he should have never accepted, you know he's regretting it.
I wonder if there are any cases of the client being killed by their attorney.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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