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Topic: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09 (Read 607036 times)
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Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 11:06:09 AM
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Just got off the phone with Jodibug, who has been (needlessly) outside the courthouse since midnight last night to ensure she got in. Per Jodibug: Those who were there this morning were given a pass to return at 1 p.m. for some kind of criminal hearing with ab. She did say that the 2 graves were confirmed, and that ab admitted one was specifically for Elizabeth, although there was no provocation at all on Elizabeth's part. AB also verified that she just wanted to know what it felt like...
*** This information was relayed to me by Jodibug (my sister) who has just left the courthouse following the certification hearing. *** I'm sure she will be here soon to update you all more thoroughly.
wow well i hope she will know what it feels like to spend the rest of her natural life in jail and eternity in hell. sorry if that comes across as harsh but its how i feel
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"COLE COUNTY, MO. -- Juvenile court authorities decided to charge a 15-year-old murder suspect as an adult at a certification hearing Wednesday morning.
Alyssa Bustamante, of St. Martins, Mo., is charged with first degree murder of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.
Olten’s body was found Friday, Oct. 23 in the woods behind her home in the rural mid-Missouri town. Olten went missing walking home from a friend’s home on Wednesday, Oct. 21. That evening started a three day search with over a hundred volunteers, K-9 units and a helicopter.
Olten was visiting Bustamante’s home when her family reported her missing. Bustamante lived down the street from the Olten family.
Police found the body after written evidence led police to Bustamante. Bustamante, after talking to the police, took them where the body was concealed in the woods.
There were two graves dug on the Friday, Oct. 16, the week before Olten’s death.
At the hearing a highway patrol officers said that during that investigation Bustamante said she “wanted to know what it felt like.”
Cole County Prosecutor Mark Richardson said that fact that Cole County Sheriff Greg White wants first degree murder charges shows that White believes Olten’s murder was premeditated.
Family court Judge Jon Beetem decided that Bustamante will stand trial as an adult. However, Bustamante could still become eligible for treatment through the Missouri’s Division of Youth Services.
"You'd have to have a certification and you'd have to have a finding of guilt," said Legal Counsel Samantha Green, "and conviction in the adult courts for dual jurisdiction."
The judge heard recommendations from juvenile court authorities and weighed the specifics of the crime against Missouri’s ten criteria to charge a juvenile as an adult -
Seriousness of offense and consideration of public safety if suspect should be transferred to general jurisdiction
Whether the offense involved vicious force and violence
Whether the offense was against a person or property, with greater weight given to offenses against a person, especially if personal injury resulted.
Was the offense was part of a repetitive pattern of offenses, where the child may be beyond rehabilitation under the juvenile code.
The record and history of the child in juvenile system and other courts will be considered
The sophistication and maturity of the child as determined by considering home, other environmental and emotional conditions and pattern of living.
Age of the child
Consider the programs available to the juvenile system.
Whether or not the child will benefit from treatment or rehabilitation programs available to the court.
Racial disparity and certification.
Bustamante has been in juvenile court custody since she was arrested on Oct. 23.
Bustamante has a history of mental illness. She attempted suicide in 2007. Since then, Bustamante has been under treatment.
Bustamante attended Jefferson City High School. School friends said that she was nice and they do not understand what would have caused her to commit this crime.
An adult arraignment is scheduled for today at 1 p.m."
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=378814
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floodgates are opening.
The interwebs are dancing!
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has anyone read if Alyssa or any of her family attened the hearing? or any of Elizabeth's family?
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Quote from: Northern Rose on November 18, 2009, 11:01:02 AM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 10:58:26 AM
NOW!!!!! Can we post the peripheral information we have found????
Klaas said once her name was released we could post pictures etc of her. I would be careful about the other minors (the twins and EA).
I will follow your lead....
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Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
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Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 11:11:48 AM
"COLE COUNTY, MO. -- Juvenile court authorities decided to charge a 15-year-old murder suspect as an adult at a certification hearing Wednesday morning.
Alyssa Bustamante, of St. Martins, Mo., is charged with first degree murder of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.
Olten’s body was found Friday, Oct. 23 in the woods behind her home in the rural mid-Missouri town. Olten went missing walking home from a friend’s home on Wednesday, Oct. 21. That evening started a three day search with over a hundred volunteers, K-9 units and a helicopter.
Olten was visiting Bustamante’s home when her family reported her missing. Bustamante lived down the street from the Olten family.
Police found the body after written evidence led police to Bustamante. Bustamante, after talking to the police, took them where the body was concealed in the woods.
There were two graves dug on the Friday, Oct. 16, the week before Olten’s death.
At the hearing a highway patrol officers said that during that investigation Bustamante said she “wanted to know what it felt like.”
Cole County Prosecutor Mark Richardson said that fact that Cole County Sheriff Greg White wants first degree murder charges shows that White believes Olten’s murder was premeditated.
Family court Judge Jon Beetem decided that Bustamante will stand trial as an adult. However, Bustamante could still become eligible for treatment through the Missouri’s Division of Youth Services.
"You'd have to have a certification and you'd have to have a finding of guilt," said Legal Counsel Samantha Green, "and conviction in the adult courts for dual jurisdiction."
The judge heard recommendations from juvenile court authorities and weighed the specifics of the crime against Missouri’s ten criteria to charge a juvenile as an adult -
Seriousness of offense and consideration of public safety if suspect should be transferred to general jurisdiction
Whether the offense involved vicious force and violence
Whether the offense was against a person or property, with greater weight given to offenses against a person, especially if personal injury resulted.
Was the offense was part of a repetitive pattern of offenses, where the child may be beyond rehabilitation under the juvenile code.
The record and history of the child in juvenile system and other courts will be considered
The sophistication and maturity of the child as determined by considering home, other environmental and emotional conditions and pattern of living.
Age of the child
Consider the programs available to the juvenile system.
Whether or not the child will benefit from treatment or rehabilitation programs available to the court.
Racial disparity and certification.
Bustamante has been in juvenile court custody since she was arrested on Oct. 23.
Bustamante has a history of mental illness. She attempted suicide in 2007. Since then, Bustamante has been under treatment.
Bustamante attended Jefferson City High School. School friends said that she was nice and they do not understand what would have caused her to commit this crime.
An adult arraignment is scheduled for today at 1 p.m."
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=378814
There were two graves dug on the Friday, Oct. 16, the week before Olten’s death.
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Wonder who the second grave was meant for? Maybe EA the girl Elizabeth was playing with? The area was heavily wooded, that means lots of roots. She was very determined to dig TWO graves the week before.
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Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 11:13:11 AM
floodgates are opening.
The interwebs are dancing!
thanks for all the updates today jill with the news articles and stuff!
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Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 11:14:59 AM
has anyone read if Alyssa or any of her family attened the hearing? or any of Elizabeth's family?
Can we say their names NOW????
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Suspect, 15, ordered to stand trial as adult in killing of 9-year-old girl
JEFFERSON CITY | A Missouri judge has ordered a 15-year-old girl to stand trial as an adult for the slaying of 9-year-old Elizabath Olten, whose disappearance last month touched off a two-day search.
Cole County Circuit
Judge Jon Beetem ruled today that the crime was serious and vicious and the state had no adequate facilities or services to treat the teenage suspect if she were to remain in the juvenile court system.
The girl was identified in court by her juvenile defense attorney only as Alyssa.
She was immediately arrested on an adult charge of first-degree murder following the judge’s ruling.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1577903.html
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COLE COUNTY - 15-year-old Alyssa Bustamante's court proceedings moved into adult court Wednesday.
The 15-year-old suspect is accused of killing 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten in October.
During the morning certification hearing, Cole County Judge John Beetem opened the hearing to the public to determine if Bustamante could stand trial as an adult. As an adult, Bustamante's name and gender became public information. A hearing in adult court will take place at 1 p.m.
KOMU has a team of reporters at the Cole County Courthouse to bring updates throughout the day.
During the morning juvenile certification hearing, the first person to speak was Principal Jeff Dodson of Jefferson City High School. He talked about Bustamante's performance in school as one of the top one-third in the class. He spoke how he had casual interactions with Bustamante and found her to be an average student. The only unexcused absence she had from school was the day after Olten's death.
http://www.komu.com/satellite/SatelliteRender/KOMU.com/ba8a4513-c0a8-2f11-0063-9bd94c70b769/07ae129e-80ce-0971-0113-e864f8522814
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Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 11:14:59 AM
has anyone read if Alyssa or any of her family attened the hearing? or any of Elizabeth's family?
KOMU.com reported that the suspect (Alyssa Bustamante) was in court. Any one have any photos/video from outside the courthouse? Can't imagine Elizabeth's family wouldn't be there. Anyone see Alyssa at the trial who can report on her appearance and mannerisms? Is LE planning a press conference???
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Hearing scheduled Wednesday for teen Missouri murder suspect
JEFFERSON CITY — A judge was to consider Wednesday whether the 15-year-old suspect in the slaying of a 9-year-old mid-Missouri girl found in the woods two days after she went missing should be prosecuted as an adult.
The teenager, whose name and gender have not been released by police, is accused of first-degree murder in the death of Elizabeth Olten. Law officers said the teen led them to Elizabeth's body in a wooded area in St. Martins, which is west of Jefferson City.
The teen has been held in juvenile custody since last month. Cole County Judge Jon Beetem was scheduled to hear arguments Wednesday on whether the teen should be prosecuted as an adult.
Under Missouri law, children as young as 12 can be charged as adults with first-degree murder. Ten factors are considered in deciding how to treat juveniles accused of crimes. All must be evaluated, but Beetem does not need to weigh them equally.
Among the factors: the seriousness of the crime; whether viciousness, force or violence was involved; whether people or property were affected; the suspect's criminal record and background; the individual's age, sophistication and maturity.
Court officials have planned extra security measures for Wednesday's hearing, which is open to the public. Cell phones, laptop computers, tape recorders and cameras all have been banned from the courthouse and those who attend the hearing can't re-enter the courtroom once it has started. Law officers at a security checkpoint in the court basement will be screening more items.
Hundreds of people searched for Elizabeth after she did not return on Oct. 21 from a neighbor's house about a quarter mile away. Searchers twice had checked the area where her body was found two days later, but the Cole County Sheriff's Department said Elizabeth had been well concealed.
Authorities have released few additional details, including how Elizabeth died. Cole County Sheriff Greg White said the 15-year-old was contacted after unspecified written evidence was obtained. Law officers have not said how it is believed Elizabeth encountered the teen or where it is believed that she was killed.
White has said that Elizabeth and the 15-year-old were acquainted but not relatives.
Elizabeth was a fourth-grader who baked cookies, worked puzzles with her mother and liked playing dress-up with her animals, according to her obituary. Elizabeth also enjoyed music, and her favorite musicians were Taylor Swift and the character Hannah Montana.
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2009/11/18/hearing-scheduled-teen-missouri-murder-suspect/
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adding a sentence to the story from KRCG above:
"Highway Patrol Criminal Investigator Sgt. David Rice said that there were two graves dug on the Friday, Oct. 16, the week before Olten’s death. There was no school that day because of parent teacher conferences. Rice also said that during the investigation Bustamante said she “wanted to know what it felt like.”
they've updated:
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=378814
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Teen certified as adult in Olten case
Fifteen-year-old Alyssa Bustamante has been certified to stand trial as an adult in Cole County as a suspect in the killing of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten.
Bustamante is expected to appear in court this afternoon.
Olten's disappearance last month set off a two-day search in the area near her home in St. Martins before her body was found Oct. 23.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/nov/18/teen-certified-adult-olten-case/
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Quote from: QueenieB on November 18, 2009, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 11:14:59 AM
has anyone read if Alyssa or any of her family attened the hearing? or any of Elizabeth's family?
KOMU.com reported that the suspect (Alyssa Bustamante) was in court. Any one have any photos/video from outside the courthouse? Can't imagine Elizabeth's family wouldn't be there. Anyone see Alyssa at the trial who can report on her appearance and mannerisms? Is LE planning a press conference???
no digital devices allowed inside the courtroom.
I understand that there are members of the Websleuths forum that were planning to attend. Not sure if they have posted their reports yet.
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i hope they videotape the hearing today at 1pm. i dunno why they wouldn't since she has been certified as an adult.
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Quote from: sunshine12 on November 18, 2009, 11:24:59 AM
i hope they videotape the hearing today at 1pm. i dunno why they wouldn't since she has been certified as an adult.
It's adult court so I hope that the news is there with cameras as well.
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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