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Anyone watching JVM?

yup

Somehow I knew Crystal and Marie were involved in this thread. A ha !!!!

post from ws anna fl

Wonder what made them figure this out.  I had seen also.

 ::MonkeyWaa:: I'm so lost! What's going on? Can someone narrow it down for me?

Nora

Scared of the big bad monkeys is now saying this to posters at ws;

Look, I'm frustrated. I'm scared. Just like everyone else here, I'm just trying to help find Haleigh. If I thought my own mother or brother or child had something to do with it, I would turn them in. It doesn't matter what side of the family I'm related to. All that matters is that we find her. Even if I were related to Ron or Misty I would feel the same way I do about them not being truthful. This isn't about family wars or bickering. This isn't about "sides". And believe me, I hear both. This is about a little girl in danger who needs to be home with her family where she belongs.


Meant to slander RC without any actual proof. Too scared, to bullied etc.

Not to be rude but, I'm about to be...RoseRed...If you think people shouldn't be scared, then *you* go over there and confront Ronnie and his friends. Trust me when I tell you, you wouldn't do that if you knew them.

ITA Anna! I'm sure I speak in behalf of every member here that no one wants to make it any harder than it already is now. People just keep speculating in their desire to come up with what happened to Haleigh. I continue to pray that ANYONE can help lead to finding her!

PRAYERS to you!

That's okay...I'm getting used to it. Not from here but from SM people lurking from their website to here.

Island I said it before and now I'll say it again, it is making me wonder just what is going on here....

guess I should of done that from the get go.

Ok, I'm not into internet wars, but this is just strange.  Makes you wonder what this person has been told over the phone.  We can bet it wasn't about the x mod.



source: WS

FCL, was that a WHOLE post? The whole thing? from..... ?

Man, I must be loony. (Dont' answer that; It's rhetorical - heh) but from what I read over yonder before the thread went poof then reappeared, many of the posts were rude, in-her-face, and bordering on cruel.... I mean THERE not here. Here there were "welcomes" and "How can we help" everywhere.

Oddy McOdd

(OK that's gettin old) :-)


 

Sorry, I just now saw Today's post.

K.

 ::MonkeyCool::

Rana sorry I should of posted the 2nd one first, tryin to work at same time.

How does a brand new poster at WS know the posters at SM?  This is just weird.

I will tell you something else that admins can do.  It is not being done in this case though, but something to watch out for.  Lets say you have someone who signed up years ago and never posted, or only post a little back then.  You can change the name of that poster to something else and it gives the impression that the person has been around a long time.  It's always good when you are having doubts about someone to look at their posting history.  Like I said not true in the case, but information for the future.

And now this from anna fl;

If someone from Ron or Misty's extended family/friends wanted to go online to get help finding Haleigh, then I'm sure they could. I don't see them online anywhere though...

Well anna they are online...hope that puts a little fire under your butt. 

Nevermind FCL I just backed up two posts and saw your clarification.

Thanks

 ::MonkeyCool::

hello to everyone

Did I hear this in my dreams or did someone find out the GF was not actually in the house all night?  I have been gone for awhile.  My mom is still sick.  Just trying to catch up.  I thought in the beginning that she couldn't have been there and not heard someone come in and take that little girl.  This is so sad.  I get so angry when people hurt and kill innocent children.  Why not go and kill someone like Charles Manson or Casey Anthony or either of the older male Vandersloots.  I'm just venting. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I KNEW I smelled something and it was not our cage...... something feels wrong monkeys.. Like I have been saying, there is an agenda there, just can not figure what it is... but there is one.. why trying to devide the SM and WS peeps??? seems family of a missing child would want ANYONE and EVERYONE to help.  jus sayin

good question and why does she think we are all of one mind on this case?

No I'm the doof for not scrolling back

DOINK shoulda had a V8

 ::MonkeyCool::

OK~I have been in contact with CS's side of the family and they are awaiting the air card to get on the net, this person wants to post as SM, but can't because they don;t have the air card. They are going to email me tomorrow if it comes in, and then I will email Klaas so this person can be approved. I literally just got off the phone with info for them, but there is no way too access it unless someone else let's them use their cable etc, I went ahead and sent it anyway so they will have it ASAP once able to log in.

I think Anna FL or Stormy may be Lindsey Croslin

I'm not even logged in and I feel like I'm going to get myself banned  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I've noticed that one of their admins has gotten extremely active, bet they are logging IPs, even on the guests.  Must remember to unplug router tonight  ::MonkeyLaugh::

I have missed a whole lot.  What does WS stand for?

Where did the statement in red appear??

Anna fl is now saying the LE took dvd's from Ron & Misty's home and does anyone know what they are.

Yo Anna I been asking about those for weeks now so join the party!  And by the way it does not say dvd's it says cassettes/recordings. 

BRAVA APPLAUSE!!!!

I felt twinges of a Twilight Zone episode myself, (replete with theme song)but bizarro world works too!:-)

YIKES! WTH?

Hi Mariloo - WS stands for Websleuths

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyConfused::

So her saying she just got of the phone with Crystal and Marie is a lie?

I am SOOOO with you on that. We are all here at SM for that reason,that purpose.. We opened our hearts and extended a hand to her and this is where it goes..    ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh!!!.  I have never been there.  Have to work all time.  Only have time for SM.  Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHIFMkmhDY0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHIFMkmhDY0)


**snort** . .  ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Klaas, have you heard a rumor that the girlfriend was not in the mobile home during the abduction?

I've been following this train wreck, and it just gets weirder and weirder.  ::MonkeyEek::

This was posted at the bottom of one of the posts. Does anyone know about this??

One of our own members is involved in the nightmare of a missing daughter AND precious granddaughter! No media, no FBI and now the case is "cold". This is a very bizarre case ~ you'll be amazed at what Kathy has been going through! Please read the thread and let's join hands in bringing this case to the attention of the media! This case CAN be solved!

My suggestion would be to go look at the IP that was used when she posted here and run it to see if its FL.  It's just too strange that someone is posting like this.  It takes someone who is really familiar with forums to be able to watch two at the same time and I believe this person at the beginning claimed they just learned how to quote.  How come the mod that lives in FL isn't posting?  Wish I could remember where in FL she is from.  Believe she moved not to long ago.  (No it isn't Windchime.)

IM.... I have been trying to say that.. ok... all this started yesterday when I brought a post here about lindsy living thru the woods behind RC's house..was from topix I believe.. then stormy posts that directions to her house were posted here.. umm ok, so that leads one to believe stormy is lindsy, then she and "A Fl" get me and klaas banned and BOTH start trashing the monkeys.. something smells and it is not our cage

Am right there with ya, searching, feeling and smelling something wrong.  Not sure yet what it is tho.  Been kicked back yesterday and today, just watching.  And I don't like it at all.  Nope. 

I have my thoughts, as am sure you do as well.  For one thing, if she who lives thru the woods and behind the house is who we think she is, why would she be teaming up with Crystal's camp?   

IMO The Admin at WS is paranoid, after all, she found out her right hand WC was a sex offender, she allowed Murt back on her forum and it is drama galore over there. people posting that there are helicopters flying from North Florida into Georgia, a mobile home near Blanchard park is being raided.. they are a hot mess   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hello Monkeys, whats up with WS, why are they trying to dis SM, just   what kind of forum are they and whats their problem with us....if I didnt know better I would think that forum was being run by teenagers or something, weird!

  Anyway, I am from Florida and I have been to  Satsuma this past weekend, and I did ask a few people for phone numbers just so I would have contact with someone there and in the Know, and I will be calling them here in a minute to see what is up and if what has been said about the helicopters and the police asking for DNA is true, and I will post and answer as soon as I get it!!!!   

At least three times a week I get an email about introducing myself in that one thread about your hat and talk about yourself. I did that many, many months ago, right about the time I stopped posting there, I'm starting to get little paranoid  ::MonkeyRoll:: about this, it's like leave me alone, I don't get it. And I am suspicious of those two posters, and I do wonder what the agenda really is.

Thanks HH

Good question

I'll answer that I have heard those rumors.

I should have stayed up a little longer last night. I'm less lost than I was but... who is this lindsy person and who is this stormy person. Why did A Fl get ya'll both banned? I thought she came here for help and then she disappeared. So she went back to WS? Sigh...well that's crazy. I don't get it. She showed up here asking for help and she got all kinds of nice welcomes and lots of help. What happened?

I totally agree! 

Seems to me that there are a few 'over yonder' who are the ones that keep posting snarky and untrue comments every now and again about SM, and the others just go along with it, adding to it.  It's like the result of this is alarming others, (including the new locals to that forum) who run with it, not even bothering to check any of it out.   
(including the staff from over there who reacted by banning folks from here). 

I will laugh my ass off if WS is being punked..  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Especially if it is by the ex-mod who may be pizzed that T didnt back her up or lie for her... MOO

That's great HH, because the paranoia is getting out of hand over there.

Agreed, I ve been in both the last week watching it all.  She's getting slammed by a member now that the cat is out of the bag.  Telling her that she is in there slandering the cummings on behalf of crystals family.

OMG, now wouldn't that be something?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Mariloo - yes, I've heard those same rumors but I have no idea what the actual truth is.

Hold on WS is not saying anything about us,  they actually were very kind last night and just tried to get past that stormy saying stuff about us.  It's anna fl and stormy starting the crap, not the ws posters.

Are they coming from good sources or have they been confirmed?  I've been away and I don't go elsewhere to discuss.  I have come to trust SM.

The DNA being asked for was in an article..but the posters over yonder said something to the effect that LE swooped in grabbing DNA swabs from everyone.. not the exact words but close

 Originally Posted by A Fl  View Post
I can't really say everything yet but i do know that something is happening; nobody really knows for SURE. They did come in a rush and take a bunch of people's DNA including from both sides of the family and friends. Police are being very VERY quiet about it but there's more activity than usual and the feeling is strong that something is about to happen. I feel that it will be very close to what some people here have theorized but not a RSO.

I just removed the nna from name... that is the exact post.

We know from public records that Lindsy lives thru the woods and behind Ron's home. 

Stormy said on a public forum that she lives thru the woods and behind them. 

She is also pizzzzzzzed cuz we read that on a public forum and dared to repeat it.   ::MonkeyRoll::  Telling everyone that WE are giving out the directions to her house. 

Ermmmm.. SHE did that herself. 

Websleuths Sux? 

 ::MonkeyWink::

I didn't ask who this person was on the phone with, I forgot her email addy and she wanted some info I have, she still can't access it unless someone else let's her use their cable or when her air card arrive.

God I am so grateful to Klaas and all of my fellow monkeys.. no matter what goes on here, we are not in some sort of tightly regulated mind control booth...

But... They have left those nasty untrue posts and deleted my tactful nice post setting it straight and banned me and klaas.. so therefore... they are letting it go on and taking it a step further and banning unfairly... not that I want to be there after seeing all this .....

Well, that blows.....

...big baby chunks....

That is all.

Then how do you explain me being banned last night?

Hi Wyksy.. how are you feeling hon? I hope you are better.. I have had this repiratory thing since christmas!  ::MonkeyConfused::

Thank you Klaas.. and me....

Granted, I AM CONFUSED, so having said that..... from what I could gather.... well let me say hypothetically so I don't get myself in a mess. *IF* someone were related to Misty, by marriage or otherwise, she may be coming across as being in Crystal's camp b/c she fears for Misty and thinks Misty is in a jam and fears Ron and has issues with Ron?

02 cents.


 

Stormy started it, true.  But read last night's post, pages 11-13 and on, many from WS jumped in and agreed and added their own snarkiness.  One poster over there did take a stand against it all, and that post went poof, while snarky posts remained.  Wouldn't be surprised if they don't poof the whole thread, cuz it's proof of their snarkiness and lies about us. 

::MonkeyLaugh::  I was going to tell you that you were going to be banned when you posted here that you were going to PM an invite.  No psychic talent needed for that one.  I'm assuming that you are using a different ID there, so they probably had to search for the PM to see who to ban.  Don't think you can search PMs, at least a year ago you couldn't, so its a open every one.  If your not using a different ID, I really have no idea why it took so long for you to be banned, unless the button pressers were not around.

It stinks IMO. Unprovoked, uncalled for, unfair..... I can go on.
Their loss.

But it still stinks on principle.

hi. I haven't read any posts here in a while but heard someone was lurking on both this and the WS website and that people were questioning who I am?  I just want to say that I am very appreciative of the help from here at SM and at the other site WS.  I don't normally go to either of them but have just been trying to put together some information from the confusion of what's happening lately.  Just for the record, I am NOT Lindsey Croslin and I don't know her.  The only posting I ever saw from her was on a news (first coast?) website. 

Hi flamom!  Not doing good today hun.  :(  Docs put me on this stuff that really helped the first couple of days.  Today I'm feeling worse than ever tho, and in major pain.  Am fixin to go back to doc when son gets home with the car.   ::MonkeyConfused::

What is up with this stuff, you've had yours since Christmas?  OMG, I'd be in tears by now!  How are you handling it?   

Well thanks for clearing that up Anna fl.

Right, and you too. 

Ahhhhh yes, now that could explain it!  Thanks!

Still stinks.

What does PM stand for again?

Yeah I thought so. 

(Not aiming my vent at you at all, Today) :-)

This makes me sound like an a$$, (what else is new - heh) but if someone wanted to "snow" people or create a distraction or forward an agenda or pull the wooly, etc  coming HERE would not likely be the place to do so successfully.

.02

 ::MonkeyCool::

They have not been confirmed, at least to my knowledge.

Hi Anna, good to see you.  I think no matter where you post there are going to be a small handful of people that question your identity.  Most of us here are just happy you are doing what you can to help find Haleigh!

Here,Here  ::MonkeyWink::

Is Ronald Cummings supposed to be a violent person?  I am getting that from several of the posts. I mean, it seems like several people fear him.   ::MonkeyShocked::

Just winging it, but got the brain jump from your earlier post on the previous thread. So IOW, you seeded it :-)

Thanks Anna
Wyks, it started as asthmatic bronchitis, went to pneumonia and pleurisy, back to asthmatic bronch and I carcked a few ribs coughing.. steroid shota, antibiotics, inhalers and Magic cough medicine ..  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Actually some of the WS poster's chimed in about SM, and not in a good way....just some though! But, Tricia did say she was going to get in touch with SM and if we didn't stop the copy/paste she would take further action ::MonkeyRoll::

We gather you are a relative of Haleigh as you stated.  Nobody here is tryin to stir pots.  Both sites are equally good.  I guess some feelings got hurt when you came here and than accusations started and from accusations we now have speculations.  We can't help it, but we are all here to do whatever we can to help find Haleigh.  Regardless of who did what.  Just my thoughts.

 

People that are posting on different forums that claim to know the family are indicating that he is, yes.

Been thinking about this case, after having listening to the apparent "locals", and reading here there and yonder. 

Am beginning to believe (along with others it seems), that there is much that LE has tucked up their sleeve that they are not sharing with the public. 

We have the dumpster, with THREE hits by cadaver dogs, and LE is saying nope nothing there.  That's crap, IMO.  I can understand LE saying 'no comment at this time' or such, but why lie? 

It's frustrating enough with no news on this case from LE, with conflicting stories from Ron/Misty/Crystal and families... But to have news from LE that makes no sense at all,  ::MonkeyNoNo::  noooooo, I think something's up. 

If I'm wrong, I'll buy a hat and eat it.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

As the web is free to all I'm not sure what she can do about it.  I think our government has bigger fish to fry than our one last outlet to free speech. JMO

I don't know why but from the beginning, I have suspected her truthfulness.  It seems she is not telling all that happened that night.  I know she took a lie detector test and supposedly passed per her, but I just cannot get her out of my mind.   I am a light sleeper and I wake up at any little noise.  And just knowing, she is a teenager, she probably put those kids to bed and went outside or maybe even to someone's house for awhile and came back to find the little girl gone.  Knowing, she might get into trouble, she said she had been there all night.  Just a scenario that has crossed my mind.  Am I crazy for thinking his way?  I just would love to hear the truth and I don't believe we have heard the whold truth yet.

I must of missed it...all I saw was explaining that stuff is traded and grabbed all the time between the two by posters nothing mean.  but I don't last to the wee hours.  Between the blackberry and the pc I'm already in trouble w/hubby.

Isn't teamwork a wonderful thing?!   ::MonkeyDance::
 

Anna fl, we have been trying to find out about Orlando Traylor, we can't find much on him.  But if he is now in Daytona, I noticed that Brandon's myspace now says Daytona also.  He is a pastor?

Searching...I am right there with you...have been skeptical from the beginning with this AnnaFl and I think that my posts from way way back will back this up...Something is not right...I do not appreciate someone coming on forum boards and jacking around with posters who are really concerned with this little child being found....I do not like this one bit! now I have to catch up on this thread...I saw your post and I had to skip ahead with my reply...

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I know and agree, that's why I was LMAO.... ::MonkeyWink::

Amen to that  ::MonkeyCool::

And you were wondering about DVD's on the police report taken from Ron's ... I've been wondering about that from day one.  Why would they take it? I would think they would only take illegal things, JMO.

The police report actually says; cassettes/recordings

I just wanted to clarify that I found these two websites when i was looking for information right after Haleigh disappeared. I wanted to post because I felt frustrated just reading and not being able to comment. I couldn't register at WS so i emailed and was told I needed to talk to Tricia to verify that I was who i said I was (related)...which I did and I talked on the phone with Tricia a lot before posting and since. I felt comfortable there because I knew at least one person could verify that I wasn't just some weirdo pretending to be someone I wasn't because I think people act suspicious (understandably I guess) if someone close is posting. Ya know? Anyway, nobody there has ever said anything negative to me about posting here too.  Tricia encouraged me to and never said anything negative either.  If others did, i didn't hear/read that or I guess I just wasn't paying attention.  I'm sorry.

 ::MonkeyEek:: 

My gosh!  How similiar!  And yours since Christmas??   ::MonkeyWaa::

Mine started as a cold, went into the flu, went into bronchial pneumonia, pleurisy and one broken rib from the coughing.  And so far just antibiotics and pain meds.  The pain meds are good (vicodin).  But the antibiotics don't seem to be working.

What's the 'magic' cough meds?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe for voice analysis comparisons???  They know something we don't.

Anna, so you are a cousin.. is it a cousin to haleigh? or someone else in the family?
Just wondering and you do not have to say which family was just curious is all..I know you seem to not want anyone to know how you are related due to concerns.

FROM WS

I have no ties to Crystal's family at all but I am related to Ron (first time I've posted that here in the open forum) but not immediate family.

Family ties mean nothing. Just because Ron shares my DNA does not mean that I think he is innocent. In fact, quite the opposite. I know enough to know that everything you have shared here is either true or very well warranted concerns.

Posted by?

Read that and I believe that was posted by ....pirate.

Hmm really.. is that why Tricia banned the ones whom "invited" you? because she is oh so ok with you posting here.... uggg I'm stepping out to wash this taste outta my mouth.

You do not need to apologize.  The stealing is a hazard of these sites in my opinion and you appear to not be accustomed to that.  We all just want so badly to get these children found and back where they belong.  That is all. 

That's true, I forgot about that.  I have not been banned to the best of my knowledge, but I did not try to PM Anna fl (don't know how) so maybe I flew under the radar.  I also have not posted over there in a couple of days...

Searching...again...right there with ya! I have been on a few forums and this is not sitting well with me at all...not that I am an expert but,,,,just sayin'....someone is playing here....

Spank me if I am wrong.... ::cartwheel::

Anna if there's nothing we can help you with...look around, but put your helmet on that's what we do in case we stumble accross crap we don't like here.  We are pretty equally divided and openminded on the theories here.  And know that we are all praying for the safe return of Haleigh. 

YES!! Well said.

Yowza call me nuts, but I saw all the info  "sharing" as just that  -- "sharing." The more folks who read it, the more people are thinking on how to help. I don't get all the territorial-ness of it all..... the possessive "this-is-ours! NEENERS! " mentality.

**sigh**

But you might like it!!!  **snort**

(I'll see myself out...)

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

Rana, yes you would think that the mentality would be that the more info out there the better...geez!  It isn't about us or them, it is about a little child who is missing for crying out loud!

They are totally different over there now.  I lurked here and there for many years before joining both.  It just seems like school to me over there, so many taboo subjects, no posting of names or websites, really weird for a sleuthing site.  Sometimes I have to spell the clues out you know. Than you guys can look it over confirm it or tell me I'm nuts.  But over there it's become very controlled.  I still like all the different threads on each case.

AnnaFL - as I posted earlier, it doesn't matter to me what forum you post on.  What matters to me is that Haleigh is found, that's what matters.

I PM'd you at WS and invited you to join here after we noticed some of your posts being deleted at WS and the thread disappearing.  I PM'd you under the name I have used at WS since April 1005 which is Caldeb.

It's possible that Tricia and the moderators are not aware that Caldeb at WS is Klaasend at SM.  No matter.  Anyway, this is the message I got after inviting you here last night:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/WS.jpg)

Is that the Jennifer and Audrianna Wix case?  Jennifer's mom used to be a member at WS, but don't remember her nic.

Apparently the PM's were not very "P" so, yes,  there ya go.... under the radar.... ::MonkeyCool::

That is all.

seems to me like the more info shared would be better as more theories and more tips could arise.. Maybe if INFO was SHARED some headway would be made.. just saying..... I am here to find Haleigh, not to have a pizzing contest with WS over who gets to have who on thread and who found what. IT IS ABOUT HALEIGH and that was the point I tried to make with my post last night on WS that Tricia deleted mind you and then banned me for good measure.

I agree; I took it to mean that if the posts were getting deleted over there, that there are other places one can post without the confusion of surprise deletions based on a technicality or.... etc..... the infamous  the now-ya-see-um-now-ya-don't posts can be dang confusing and exhausting.

Jus sayin

No, you're not crazy at all for thinking that.  It's a very good possibility.  And you're right, we sure haven't heard the whole truth.  It's very frustrating, trying to help, when we don't have many pieces of the puzzle to even begin putting together. 

man oh man.....

bru--tal....

Klaas, I do want to apologize to you for you getting banned. When I seen stormy over there saying we were mean to Anna and how we were stealing posts and just being down right hateful toward SM, I posted my thoughts on that and THAT is when you and I both got banned. I feel it is my fault you were banned, it just seemed like WS was in a competition and we are trying to find a missing child and only trying to assist in finding her and it upset me to have SM being spoken so badly about..

Anna why did you make comments about SM over on WS a bit ago like we are being bad to you or wronging you in some way? I just have to ask because ALL the monkeys are here for the missing and ONLY for them,because of big hearts and some of us have missing relatives and KNOW how it feels...

I think that Misty left the house as well...and No, we have not heard the whole truth..People are protecting themselves at Haleigh's expense....IMO

Everyone on this site has been more than willing to assist AnnaFl with whatever info she has asked of the members.  Everyone has been polite, truthful and honest in their replies.  Everyone wants to help in anyway they can.  No one has been rude or made nasty comments to AnnaFl.

Then why did she post the following comment????  What justified this??

That's okay...I'm getting used to it. Not from here but from SM people lurking from their website to here.

Did she not reach out for HELP???? 

Yeah...what Gramma said just now!!

Hi Red... I am stepping back for a bit monkeys. I am way more upset then most know. I was at WS because my brothers thread is there... Now I am not so sure I want his info there...

If I was in charge, I would start with the girlfriend and inject truth serum and maybe a little Chinese torture and we would find this child real quick. The sad truth is she probably will not be found alive.  I really hope the dad is not involved but now, I am not sure of him either.  When he was first on TV, his body language seemed like he was guilty of something, maybe just being high or something.  Anyway, he just kept looking away and down at the ground, very strange reaction.  I am no expert, but I have raised three boys and when they did something they did not want to talk about, they would not look me in the eye.. Just a mamma's instinct.

Anna FL has left the house.  Here as a guest?  Who knows.  She sure came in quick after the post about us at WS.

Hey Red!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/wavehi.gif) 

C'mon in, the more the merrier!   ::MonkeyDance::

<<<<BIG HUGS FOR YOU>>>>

Hi mariloo....If you notice though, Crystal the bio mom does the same thing...she looks away and down at the ground as well...

Searching is your brothers information here too?

Yesssssss!!  People do seem to be considering their own possible predicaments, rather than realizing this is about a missing child!  IMO, they need to man-up (even the females) and own up to whatever, cuz time is of the essence!! 

Yeah I have to wonder about the GF myself.

I'm sorry Searching, I didn't realize anything about your brother, please take care. Mary

Would you please clarify for me, how can someone be on as a guest???  I had seen her name on the top that she was signed in. 

quote: Yeah I have to wonder about the GF myself.

me too Klaas....me too...she is hiding the truth...I feel sure of it...

As a guest you can't post here right? at least I couldn't....just lurked....and lurked and lurked...

You are right.  This is so weird.  I feel like this is why so many so-called family members are there, not to look for Haleigh, but to see what is in it for them or to make sure certain information does not come to light.  At this point, I am not sure who to believe in.

I'm with you, I have a mamma's instinct also.  ::MonkeyWink::

Awwww Searching.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/hug.gif) 



   

Don't sign in.  Then you are a guest.

Me three.

Klaas you have nanners.  I don't need any nanners back, just sent a thought.

That's interesting. I find it more rude that individuals PM, that would stand for PRIVATE MESSAGES, are being read. So much for an expectation of privacy. I am sure that will be welcome news to posters.

I might write on this more at length; however, I find some actions on the internet as juvenile as I have ever witnessed. People can post anywhere they want. That is why the web is so big. The individuals that post on a site are not property of the site, their postings are property of the site.

I have been out of High School for quite a while and have no ambition to return. Johnny or Suzy are allowed to be invited to other people's houses for a sleepover, party or to listen to music downloads. Guess what, they will go back to Christy's place after that as that is where they normally hang.

For that some one is banned? How dare you spend time at someone else's house and not spend time with me. God God.

I am pretty sure at this point as SM has been around since 2005, people know who we are and where we are. A simple innocent invite with no malicious intent being dealt with like that is beyond comical.

I would tend to think that reading people's PM's might be a bigger issue. I have read WS for years and must say I am a bit shocked. What I will say as they can ultimately do what they please ... is when unique content is posted on SM or any one of the family of blogs under the SM logo will have proper attribution.

I will end by saying what a difference there is between blogs and forums and blog based forums.

Mariloo...me either...not sure who or what to believe...


sorry if this has been posted before, but I heard that Crystal had to move her tent because the property owner wanted her to move it...sortof heartless if you ask me.....Unless it is noisy and is getting out of hand for the property owner....it is his land and he can do what he wants with it I guess..
but why can't Crystal just move her tent onto the lot that Ron's mobile home is on? Surely he would let her do that as well as the land lord would ok it I would think...

Newb question - what are nanners?  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm with you, mariloo.  Mama's instinct here too.  Seems from the start he's either been lying or not being completely honest, which is basically the same thing.   

What I can't get over is that had all sides been completely honest with what they knew, rather than hiding stuff, Haleigh might have been found quickly.  But with all this time gone by and they still dragging their feet?   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Doesn't look good. 

My only hope is that IF someone took her for revenge, etc. that they have Haleigh safe and unharmed, and are just waiting for whoever to do whatever, then will release her to her family. 

Doesn't surprise me.  Hard to be comfy when saying one thing there, and another thing here.  IMO. 

 

Thanks,

Email

Obviously something you and I never get...tee hee! am thinking it is emails? we don't have the PM system here right anyone?

I think Crystal was close to the River Villas so maybe the residents had a beef with ...whatever.... Also, I think Ron was asked to move his tent as well.

Those who are here reading only, either not signed up or not signed in, will show at the top as guests. 

BWAH!! and **snort**

I was on  one site and the PM thingy was so dang tiny, I didn't see it. My box was full and I never knew it.

That sounds dirty.

(I'll see myself out...)

(You keep sayin that, but you never go) .  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Island, you have mail!

   Ok everybody, I just talked to someone in Satsuma, and I didnt get the same story as was told earlier, what I was told was that LE did come and get DNA from some people at chrstals camp , but not blood DNA, just like hair samples and also stuff that they didnt get the first time, probably just stuff that they forsee that they may need in the future, or maybe something that was found in the dumpster, the LE really is keeping tight lipped about almost everything, even to family members.....also about the helicoptors flying over head and stuff, uhhh no, there might have been one that flew over and circled back, but  who knows if it was related to the search for Haleigh  or something else.
   I was also told that LE is really leaning on Mistie, and that all these people that are coming on saying that people need to talk to LE, but are scared to do so, NOT....LE seems to be getting alot of info and is searching out anybody that has ever had any dealings with Ronald or Mistie, just because LE hasnt told what is going on doesnt mean they dont know, and who knows who they plant where to gather info, there;s more than one rat sqeaking!!!!!!

    Now that IS the word from someone right there in the neighberhood!!!!!!

Red, very well said.   The PM issue has been around for awhile.   The other day there was a denial posted and I looked up the mod (a program) that allows PMs to be read, it was actually on the site that the admin told everyone to go to.  After I posted the link and info here there was a retraction of sorts.  Interesting.  I wouldn't be so upset, but the admin was posting under his name that he sits on the great white throne.  Rubbed me the wrong way.

  I suppose all the cameras and the activity would get annoying after awhile...but geez, have a heart ...there is a child missing...Still, maybe they aren't the tidiest either and there could be garbage and stuff piling up? not sure...just some random thoughts as to why they would be asked to move...

Was there a place to check to receive or not receive? I forget which I chose heh.

Hugs for you ((((((Searching))))))

thanks HH....that makes more sense than what we have been fed lately...by others who say they are in the know...

Very well said, Red!  Thank you!   ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks HH. 

  Yes, that did sound dirty but I like it! My mind just goes there...sorry.. ::cartwheel::
I am not for everyone.... ::MonkeyDance::

That is terrible.  I wonder if there was too much noise?  Or too much media?  Ron must not get along with her or he would have suggested that in the beginning.  Is anyone allowed in the mobile home yet?  Poor Haleigh.  God bless her and keep her.

The forum admins have their emails on the front page of forum. 

i LUV IT WHEN YOU TALK DIRTY, oops sorry for the caps, workin.

www.firstcoastnews.com

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- Twenty-three days into their investigation, law enforcement officers are still trying to find Haleigh Cummings.

The five-year-old was last seen when her father's girlfriend, Misty Croslin, says she put her to bed.

Investigators have not fingered a suspect, but today members of Croslin's family spoke out about the search.

Croslin's mom and dad, Lisa and Hank, spoke out about a 19-year-old cousin who lives in Tennessee. His name is Joe. We are not identifying his last name because police have not named him a suspect in the case.

Police confirm the FBI has talked to Joe. Croslin's father says he spoke to police about the teenager on Tuesday. "I was into the police station yesterday telling them everything. I hope I don't get in trouble for saying, but ya know. I don't know what else to do."

The First Coast News I-team has found Joe's myspace page. The last posting on his site is from February 22, 2009.

A friend by the name of Thomas told Joe, "Just go back down there and help find the lil girl it just might clear your name."

The Croslins say about two weeks before Haleigh disappeared, Joe and Haleigh's dad, Ronald Cummings, had an issue over a gun. "He stole Ronald's gun. One morning, on the porch, said, Ronald will get what's coming to him. It was dropped, he left and Haleigh was gone," says Lisa Croslin.

Police confirm they are investigating the information about the stolen gun.

A week and a half ago, when police were asked if Joe was a suspect police said, "The one in Tennessee? No, he is not at all."

But then later, police changed their comment to no one has been ruled in or out as a suspect.

"The way I understand it, they're not ruling them out. I don't want to get in trouble for things I say, I don't know. The police is doing their jobs," says Hank Croslin.

Mariloo...they are allowed back in the home but Ron does not want to go back there without Haleigh...don't blame him...

Thanks HH, much appreciated.  ::MonkeyWink::

Wouldn't that be wonderful if someone is holding her but don't you think they must know by now they are gonna be in deep doodoo if they bring the child forth.  She is old enough now to talk and spill the beans.  I will always believe Misty knows.  I think she has been threatened.

www.firstcoastnews.com

Haleigh's Family Moving from Memorial Wall Camp
Posted By: Jennifer Lindgren     Created: 3/4/2009 2:43:56 PM    Updated: 3/4/2009 5:30:02 PM
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SATSUMA, FL -- The family of Haleigh Cummings' mother is moving again.

For the past three weeks, Crystal Sheffield and her mother Marie Griffis have been staying in a tent just outside the wall to the River Villas neighborhood where Haleigh lived with her father.

The makeshift camp has grown in size, in part because of all the memorials left for Haleigh, who has been missing since she went to bed on the night of February 9.

The family, who lives in Baker County, says the spot next to the wall is as close to the investigation as they can be.

But Haleigh's grandmother says the owner of the River Villas asked them to move.

River Villas co-owner Richard Jennings told First Coast News his heart goes out to the family but he has asked the family about their future plans.

Jennings says the presence of the camp has sparked questions and concerns about the safety of the family.

The camp is near a busy intersection and a railroad track.  
Jennings says he's not forcing the family to move but he wants to know if they're planning to move on.

Haleigh's family says they're faced with a new challenge now.

They're asking a property owner across the street if they can set up at that location.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office, meantime, released 7 DVDs containing a week's worth of dispatch calls starting from the morning Haleigh disappeared.

whew! Just caught up. You guys sure had a LOT to say since 5 PM when I left the computer!!!

Thanks for this report, HH!

I personally think there is just no news today to share with us, so little things are being blown out of proportion, and since I don't "do" WS .. I have no more to add to that conversation, than I said yesterday about the issue. Pre-adolescent behaviour, IMO. And I'd like to re-state that no one knows for sure who is who on forums such as these, nor what their personal motives are. Just sayin.

Let's put our heads together and help find Haleigh or bring her justice, depending.

Thanks Red for your post.

I agree Cookie, it does seem heartless.   And yet, something tells me we haven't heard the whole story.   

There are conflicting reports by the media.  Have read one report that Crystal's camp was asked to move, and have read another that both hers and Ron's were asked to move.  Still not sure which is which, and if perhaps the media got it wrong... again. 

One thing that I've heard regarding Crystal's camp is that it has expanded due to the things that folks are bringing by and leaving, a sort of memorial/dedication site for Haleigh.  That kind of thing can take on a life of it's own, as in what happened with Caylee's memorial site. 

The owners of the property, or the community etc may be concerned with all of that plus the media and the traffic, etc.  I don't really know the whole story.  So it may be more than someone just being heartless and saying off you go.  Of course, it could be exactly that tho.   ::MonkeyEek::  And if so, that would really be sad. 

Yes, the mobile home was released last Friday. But it has been said that Ronald finds it too deoressing to be there without Haleigh, so he is not staying there.

Thanks HH.

It's good to know they're leaning on Misty.

Yeppers, no more PMs here. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Rana, you are too funny!  Every time you *snort*, it cracks me up!   ::MonkeyWink::
And please do not show yourself out.  (altho it's funny when you say that too!) 

There was something BIG! happening. Did it fizzle?

Yep...the Viagra wore off....

BWAH!!
Don't encourage me, Wyksl A little bit of me goes a long way - heh.

I have to laugh sometime or I'll burst into tears.

And if Nancy says Totmom again I'm gonna open a vein.
oh puh-leeze. That doesn't even make sense.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

  ::MonkeyHaHa:: That's what happened, I wondered.

Hmmmmmm......


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Yep, just BIG  rumors Im afraid!

(((Searching)))

WE love ya' Babe!

Nite all and if there is anyone here who has lost a loved one or one is still missing, may God bless you and yours and I pray for resolution.  You are all bunches of fun here at SM, I don't care who else banned you. ::MonkeyTongue:: ::cartwheel::

But what I don't get is why the excitement and craziness and paranoia that was flying high this afternoon, must have been some reason for all that hoopla.

Good night Mariloo.

Where was all this hoopla coming from?

nite Mariloo...I am about ready to turn in myself...I hate to though, seems like I miss something everytime I log off...but hubby is telling me to "get Off that thing"....

at least he didn't say  "get on that thing".... ::cartwheel::
ok. ok....time for bed I think....
nite all...

    Now that IS the word from someone right there in the neighberhood!!!!!!
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Hmmmmmm......


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Aw, that is so cute! lol.


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I know...snort away....
sometimes I end up in someone else's cage too when I do the quote thingy...

Hmmmmmm......


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Aw, that is so cute! lol.


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That IS interesting indeed! 

Nighty!!

Is it rodeo night at the house? heh heh :-) Gotta keep it interesting. (Sometimes I wear sexy funny hats)

Sorry, is that TMI? :-)

Yep, in that scenario there's definitely the possibility that Haleigh would talk.  Unless whoever may have her is someone she doesn't know and cannot identify.  These people could just drop her off at a safe haven and jet before being seen. 

I dunno.  I have so many theories now it's hard keeping up.  lol 

WS

Thanks Grama! 

Since Crystal's camp is "outside the wall to the River Villas neighborhood", seems to me that the property co-owner of the River Villas wouldn't be in a position to ask Crystal what her plans are, or suggest anything to her.  Doesn't sound like she is ON their property at all! 

And it sounds like it's a concern to this co-owner only, not to the community at large, otherwise Crystal wouldn't be thinking of trying to move her camp across the street from where she is now.  Sigh.  I hope for her sake she can work this out with the other property owner.  I can just imagine that Crystal only wants to be as close as possible. 

All I can say to that is, consider the source!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

And on NG.. same here!  grrrrrrrr..

Also, I love babies.  I love twins.  But I do not tune in to NG to see her babies and their every waking moment.   And am sick unto death of trying to get the latest info on missing children and other cases, only to have to endure her gushing over them!  Why can't she just direct those interested to her site and be done with it?  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/smiley-gahh.gif)

Shocking, that the rude part does not provide accountability as to the reading of the PM in the first place.
Save for the fact that I have several good friends I have made from that site, I am embarassed at the affiliation.

Private being the operative word here,it would be a misnomer as the expectation of privacy is little more than a ruse apparently.
Try starting a thread about who has access, or better yet PM or email the admins and see what happens.
A "tidbit"... owner was advised of the activity of Windchime months ago, and btw, if you allow access to members PM's and personal information, again she was warned about the practice by me personally in November, you don't get to say...
"We were shocked.." unless it can be interchanged with "we got caught"  

Say it with me ... "Professional Responsibility"

Lastly, stop soliciting LE on every major case, they are on to you and it's embarassing, not to you apparently, but to those that actually work with them on a regular basis-

Blink  

It appears that it may have been happening in someone's mind only, then took on a life of it's own from there. 

WS = unnecessary D-R-A-M-A  ::MonkeyTongue::
I knew when I was reading over there earlier tonight it was all crap.
I like facts. The fact is that Haleigh is missing and needs to be found.
I am very skeptical of people who come to these forums professing to be 'insiders'.. I am sure there are those on here who have inside info to different cases and keep their mouths shut and only share it in emails.. please, enough of these people. LETS FIND HALEIGH

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Thanx, I love kitties.  Soooooo curious! 

Hear, Hear!!!

Very well said, Blink! 

And ya know they will see this 'over yonder'.   They've posted themselves that they are lurking over here, which is obvious, as evidenced by the 'extra' guests we've had in this thread today.  Heh. 

Happy reading WS!!   ::MonkeyDance::

Great post Blink34.

I started to say for the over yonder-ers - something about where the sun don't shine, and I don't mean Seattle; but I stopped myself - heh

 ::MonkeyCool::

HH, thank you for posting this, and for doing all that you do to help!   ::MonkeyWink::

Any thoughts on why LE is being so very tight-lipped on everything?  It's SUCH a difference after what we've gotten in the Anthony case.  It's sooooooo frustrating!  We want to help, yet haven't a clue where to even begin, because it's like we have nothing to go on! 

Well Rana, it's a good thing you stopped yourself.    ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

I think any one of us could give the same kind of vague answers that Anna, Misty and now pirate.. (lol) are giving to the incredulous spellbound crowd over at WS  ::MonkeyShocked::
If I am wrong I will eat a dog biscuit..  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Howdy Wyks, I would think it is because of the size of the town, this isnt Orlando and everybody knows everybody and LE surely doesnt want the people that they might have and interest in to know that they do, for then they will be gone or threaten other people not to say a word! I also believe they are questioning the right person with Mistie and that with her is where the answers will be found and if so, then of course they wont say anything as that would let whomever she is giving them info on know that it is being done, so really they have no choice!   I dont think it will be long before something blows wide open!!!!!  I am still praying for Haleigh, I feel that too much time has gone by!

Hello Monkeys, I had to step back and take a breather, I am so upset I could not stop crying.

Klaas, not sure if my brothers information is here as I did not look. I found WS by looking for his info to see if any new leads were out there.When I get better together, I will e-mail his information to you.

Thank you ALL for the love,but this is Haleighs thread so I will stay on topic after this.

I have asked a dear friend to kindly ask Tricia to kindly take my brothers info off there. It was not an easy decision but I really do not want people like that involved in his case in any way. I realized after this chain of events that
1, they are very juvenile in there actions over there and 2, My brothers case is not in the news and well, never will be,he is an adult and had a troubled past of which no one knows. The only lead we ever had was my other brother,whom after questioning by LE sold his belongings and left what he did not sell behind never to be heard from by our family again, other then to tell my Step mother to tell me he never wants to speak to me again because I sent LE there to talk to him. I could care less if that brother speaks to me or not,he started molesting me when I was 4-5 and started raping me at 7. To believe he has done something to my missing brother is easy,he is pure evil. so no, my brother will not make news. I was banned from WS because someone stating OBVIOUS mis truths is supposedly "in the know" in a case in the news.  Yes it hurt,simply because it has proven I was spot on, they are in it for becoming famous in the news. No, I do not want them to touch my brothers case. Not much was ever really posted on his case either except by a dear sweet lady, The Aunt of Lorne Boulet,she was my rock in the beginning of this but I lost my home,my husband and everything due to so much time and effort going into my brothers case and also lost contact with her. Apparently she is showing as banned as well. Which blows me away because she is a very sweet lady. With that said, It is quite plain to see if the case is not in the news,the higher power at WS has no use for it.

Love to all my monkey family, I will be lurking,trying to get my thoughts back together as I did have to break down and take something to calm me down,which I have not had to do in quite a time. so hoping it will start working and I can stop crying.

Hugs to you all.

AMEN!  some people are just too easy.

one more thing..... when searching for a loved one, you grab on to anyone and anything you think can help, trust me.. they tell you to not listen to the psychics, easy to agree to,harder to stick to.. I rode the wind of those psychics and anyone else I thought could help. I hung on EVERY ONES word.   THAT is why I was suspicious of certain posters.. like Anna Fl... I read where she was posting on topix and she knew NOTHING of the family,but suddenly after getting all the info from there and other places, she said she was a cousin..that is why I asked her what I did and she could not/would not answer.. you should read that topix thread,starting at page 14,quite enlightening.

From there......

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All I[m saying is that Misty's dad finally walked into the police station and told them what he knows, apparently something new. He says he was hoping he wouldn't "get in trouble" but he just felt compelled to just tell them whatever it is he knows. 

SPELLBOUND! That's the word I was looking for....

Had to add the red portion..sorry... scrambled mind right at the moment...

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Anna, I am curious if you know if LE has had to subpoena DNA from anyone?
All I know is they had a handful of subpoena's yesterday and took the DNA today.
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Maybe a monkey with an "in" can see if this is true?? seemed to me most of the family was willing to give/do what ever was needed to find Haleigh....

(((((((Warm & comforting Monkey hugs for you Searching)))))))

Anna
If you see a post that upsets you, incites you, or is rude, look to the top of that post on the right and hit the button with the exclamation point. That button will immediately report the post to the mods.
I know it is hard, but try not to quote them so that if the mod deletes the post, it won't mess up the whole thread..I hope that helps you!

Hahaha if she thought the monkeys were mean to her,there will not be any posts left there if she uses that button...lol

The oddest thing..

I haven't seen the supposed "locals" posting 'over yonder' say anything yet that we haven't already heard in the media or have surmised by what we have heard. 

Just saying..

Thank you and BTW, the Kind and loving people here is why I joined the monkeys. Not to mention,you are all smart and make me look good.. lol  :)

::MonkeyHaHa:: I read that and had the same reaction..  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Ahhhh we're on the same wavelength!  Sorry, didn't read this before posting.  But I agree with you!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

And hugs to you, Searching!

So sorry for what you have been through,

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BTW Searching, may I say that your hat really shows off the shine in your eyes...  ::MonkeyTongue::

Makes sense, HH!  I agree that LE is questioning the right person, in Misty.  Even some of the psychics online are going with her, have sensed she is the one who either did something or knows what happened.   Many of us have felt it from the start.  But it's the darndest thing, cuz just when I decide on one, another theory nudges forward and oohhhh my gosh, it could be just as possible.  This case is infuriatingly frustrating!  And that's a mouthful.  lol
 

I'd likely be doing that as well, Searching! 

About the topix thread, I get so dizzy lost over there, do you have an easy link? 

Searching My heart broke when I read your post.  I want you to know that if the world had more people like you, it would be a much better place.  After all that you have endured, you are still a kind, caring, compassionate person.  I must tell you that you and people like you are what keeps me grounded.  Just when I think this world is beyond redemption, I hear of yet another amazing person, who overcame odds to survive tragedy and heartbreak.  Probably why I am drawn to SM. 

Sorry O/T Mods!   

We'll make sure and post his information here too.  Just let me know and I'll get it set up. 

((HUGS back at ya!  Don't let WS get to you, it's not worth it!))

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/T4M811EB7J5FLGJ0S/p14

Just look for anna 1's posts.. I got this topix link off WS yesterday and then posted what I was finding and my questions arising from what I was reading and that is when all he11 broke loose.

Thank you all for the kind,comforting and supportive words. It means a lot to me and it is the kindness that brought me here.

Searching


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Thanks Searching!  It is interesting what you said about the transformation, so to speak.  While reading that I was thinking of how easy anyone could do this, especially anyone in Florida and near that area.  And unfortunately, there are some folks in this world who are ermmm .. unwell enough .. to do this type of thing, sad as that is. 

I was involved in another very high profile case, of a missing adult, doing basically what we do here.  I have a heart for doing a family tree, and did one on that missing person and families involved.  One of the family members of the perp contacted admin and me, having been drawn to the work we were doing, especially the family tree, and wanted to confirm the info we had found.  Except this person wanted to remain 'behind the scenes' where it felt safe to em.  From the start I believed in this person cuz 'it felt right', and cuz of the details the person said which helped, that no one else could know but family.  The info we received from this person came 'before' anything came from the media or LE, unless it was to confirm what the media/LE was saying, and to give us the bigger picture.   

All of which is NOT like what we are getting so far with these so called 'locals'.  Red flags and hiked up hinky meter is what I get with them. 

Thanks for the link! 

You are welcome Wyks..
seen this on WS...

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anna, did you see the family tonight???either side... what's going on , you want our help but you really are not giving us much to go on. if you know a name send it, we'll do the rest.
mods please don't ban me, i just got here..

A Fl posted this in reply to the question..
I don't have much more to give right now. I'm just waiting to hear about what happened today and what's happening tonight. Everyone is tired and angry and frustrated and scared and sad...that's all I know right now. I really think something is breaking right now but police aren't telling anyone anything. It's tense, it's somber, I wish I had more to give you right now. You mentioned in your post that you just got here...I've posted off and on all day as I am home today and not down at the tents, just posting what I get when I get it on the phone.
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again, no REAL information..just innuendo.

Thankyou Tricia and mods........
if this gets dangerous for our girls in Fla, can we go to members only??
I can't even imagine how it would be to be so close to any crime such as this one.
My heart goes out to our Fla. girls!
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This was just posted over yonder, and this is what I mean by FOS, I live in Florida, I went to Putnam county, just what do they think is going on in that small town, they act like this is the Mafia... whatever... there's nothing more going on there then what goes on in every small town around here, and believe me, if things were that bad I believe Putnam would have made and appearance in the local news way before now!  This is just one small town family that got in trouble of their own making and I dont see people from that town just all of a sudden getting killed for talking 0n the internet and not really saying anything that hasnt already been said to begin with!   Please, if you think Putnam County is scary then come here where I live, redneck country will really give you something to worry about.......gosh

SEARCHING     I won't say it as well as others but your courage and commitment is awesome. You are exactly the
                    kind of Monkey that trys to make sense in a senseless world. We are lucky that you are here.
                   
                         more hugs

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Big hugs to you searching {{{{hug your neck}}}}. I never knew about your brother, and I hate that you hurt due to WS'ers and that Dumb arse last night here that called you out, when we all know he was truly talking about SS (who seems to have a serious hard on for "Ronald" as she calls him). You don't deserve this, nor did Klaas.......but, consider the source. I truly believe they are about to implode over there anyway. ::MonkeyTongue:: I am praying so hard that there is a resolution to this ASAP, it's gut wrenching to see no information and a family with absolutely no answers ::MonkeyNoNo::

Pls God, bring Haleigh home.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::As always 99.9 percent of you are wonderful, caring, and thoughtful posters to our guests.

To the rest of you. GOD ALMIGHTY SHUT UP AND LEAVE.

From now on any smart ass remarks ( not decent disagreeing but smart ass rude remarks) will earn that poster a banning for life. No questions asked.

Carry on.
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OMG~They are losing it ::MonkeyShocked::

Haha Great minds IM, I was just coming to point that post out to you monkeys... Talk about power going to someones head.. sheesh.

And thank you and miz jay for the kind words. really,you monkeys will never know how much you all mean to me.. Dsn, I seen your post a few pages back.. ((hugs)) to you and to all of you. This has been a very enlightening day for me honestly.
Like I said,when searching for someone,you grab the shirt coat of ANYONE and EVERYONE and I now wish I had never got involved over yonder. Being a member there brought more heart ache to an already broken heart. My heart truly aches for families looking for missing loved ones..

Searching hugs (neck and bear) to you. Please hang in there!

Goodnight, my Monkey friends..
sweet dreams and God, please keep Haleigh safe and bring her home where she belongs..

Thank you.. I  saved my LeeWee PeeWee you did for me so I can look at it and laugh.. It is so perfect,just seems so well..lee..  :)

Searching, I knoe just how you feel, you know I have a sister that is missing also, and while searching for her all these years is where I have learned how to talk to people and get some insight into what is going on!   I would never post something just for the sake of posting it. A missing child is nothing to make stuff up about!  Some people arent worth the feeling bad about, we are the best right here at SM, and we stick together, you are among friends here, the rest will destroy themselves or just go away when they dont get any more attention!...........I say phooey on them, this is where we belong!

G'Night FlaMom, watch the water here in Fla...it seems to be having bad effects on people...    ::MonkeyLaugh::

Thank you HH. I am sorry about your sister,really. I am proud to be a monkey. I feel I have found home here. Now, lets find Haleigh  :)


IBE, Thank you and Hugs back to you. :) you are all great.

Lets put our monkey heads together and find this girl.

Night Monkeys~I hope tomorrow will be the day Haleigh is found, this has to end..........hug your babies, and never take anything for granted.

IM

No, hadn't seen that yet.  Thanks! 

Sounds like someone over there may be thinking along the same lines as well! 

Night IM. Hoping with you that tomorrow she is found. Alive,safe and well

  A few hugs for you Islandmonkey, you put your money where your mouth is by your kind gesture to Crystal and family.Often I might think " gee wouldn't this or that be nice to do" but that's all that happens!

It's got to be heart wrenching to have all these days pass with no signs of your child and then your "campsite" is uprouted, to where?  All the chaos, confusion and pain has to be unbearable and then to top it off, more DNA samples needed, a mothers mind would probably immediately go to the awful thought of needing it to compare to a body.

It does say LOTS about the family, their response to your offer.  If we had a clapping monkey it would be right herebut since we don't here's 
                                 ::MonkeyDance::

I'm working on it~after speaking with the family, maybe I'll take that money to find a PI to look into the boat issue, it's about the only thing left I can think of.

Thank you~like I said I've been blessed and was just trying to pay it forward so to speak............I agree it says alot about them that they wouldn't take any money, but I'm keeping in touch and told this person to keep my number (toss away phone) and to pls call if they ever find themselves in a pinch, I'll be there.

You know it works, you give - you get.  It's always worked well for me, when hubby is not slapping my hand. Your a good person.

So this anna fl/1 has been all over the boards.  Interesting she's giving a good story over there, they are hanging on every word.  Most of my favorite posters over there are gone.

Yeah, I see what you're saying!  Good example of the fear being built up over there.   

My middle son lived right near this town for about a year before he moved to Tampa.  Since he used to live so close, I've been telling him about this case.  He's watched a bit of it on the news too.  When I started telling him this latest stuff, he was looking at me sideways.  lol  And saying.. "Ermmm mom, WTF?  That little hick town isn't Miami or something, ya know?"    ::MonkeyHaHa::  In Tampa he lived right across from Pinellas Park, where Ron went for the tatoo.  Says if anything, that's where Ron could have hooked up with some bad dudes.  Am sooooo glad my son is back in Nebraska again.  lol

IMO, there's no need to get everyone over yonder all worked up about something that very likely isn't true.  Might be a redneck area, yet not much different or dangerous than any other small town USA.   Also, IMO, the dangerous part was likely brought on by Ron supposedly robbing a drug dealer, and the fallout from that.  That could occur anywhere.  And not likely so very dangerous for anyone discussing it, such as on an online forum, etc.

good night everyone.  sweet dreams.

[quote This was just posted over yonder, and this is what I mean by FOS, I live in Florida, I went to Putnam county, just what do they think is going on in that small town, they act like this is the Mafia... whatever... there's nothing more going on there then what goes on in every small town around here, and believe me, if things were that bad I believe Putnam would have made and appearance in the local news way before now!  This is just one small town family that got in trouble of their own making and I dont see people from that town just all of a sudden getting killed for talking 0n the internet and not really saying anything that hasnt already been said to begin with!   Please, if you think Putnam County is scary then come here where I live, redneck country will really give you something to worry about.......gosh
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I'm way behind and catching back up.

I was thinking the same thing. Zeesh... I live in redneck country too. It's not like there's danger around every corner or the Cummings are online watching every word that's said. I realize all it would take is one person to notify them all but... they would have to take that person on plus everyone else in the long line.

 

So true, but LMAO about hubby slapping your hand ::MonkeyHaHa:: I honestly believe any monkey (not just me) would step up to the plate, it's just a matter of tracking the person down to actually make the offer, I just lucked out today when someone in the media gave me the phone number I requested.

    I'm glad that your son is in the heartland again, the way it reads from these "FL girls" , Satsuma is home to the catfish cartel, all these characters are rough around the edges but  bad guys with gangsta hit men, I don't believe it.

It's almost like a mass hysteria is being spread by a few, if it was that dangerous with enforcers behind every tree, it makes no sense for them to be talikng about their children at school, their house general location but to a local, they could probably figure it out.

I'm going to reply to my own post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

If any hysteria is brewing they all should be scared as chit at all the predators in their midst
they ought to direct all that energy to try and identify all the SO's living on every corner
and use all that badass energy to not so quietly show'em the highway.

Amen.

God bless all you sweet monkeys and thanks again for being so welcoming. Most places, when going through ugly stuff like what has happened here recently, would eyeball newcomers like us and perhaps be cynical like a "certain" place is in a very warped way. The atmosphere wouldn't remain so welcoming. You've stayed kind to all the newcomers here. Thanks! And the "drama" hasn't deterred you a bit from trying to do all you can to help find sweet little Haleigh. This is just one example of many that helped us decide to join SM. You're all VERY different... and it's appreciated very much.

Nick and Nora
Proud to be Scared Monkeys!

Thanks mizjay!  And yeah, I agree with you.  If life were indeed that dangerous, I doubt they'd come online and be giving such info as their general location, etc.  Who does that anyway, even living in the safest places? 

Am thinking that with all the SO's in that area, that's likely the worst danger.  Heck, out in Cali we lived surrounded by two gangs, the Bloods and the Crips.  Ya learn who not to piss off, that's all.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Awww so nice of you to say!  Glad you both are with us!   ::MonkeyWink::

     ::MonkeyHaHa::

        last quote stack from me, gotta learn to highlight or snip 

Searching, my heart breaks for you!  God bless!

   

   Nick and NORA   welcome and just wanted to say the THIN MAN movies are my absolute faves!!!!   

Am heading for the monkey bunky.  G'nite monkeys and guests.  May tomorrow be the day Haleigh is found.  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sleep.gif)

One also has to wonder why someone who was posting on that Topix site would end up joining the over yonder site after news and info of WCime ordeal was posted on that topix thread. If I was related to a missing little girl and seen that posted, I would not run and join said site. unless I was maybe up to no good.. just sayin

Thank you A's... I am heading to the monkey bunky too. It has been a loooong day.  Hugs to all monkey family. sleep well.

May tomorrow bring new light to this case and Haleigh be found alive and well.

yeah I'm up now. Had a nightmare. Note to self: NO more Chuckie movies with hubby! I'm like a toddler.

Some comments here remind me of a story....

(GROAN!)
 You know those "psychics" not the real ones - the other ones......
"Anyone here with a relative...." (no, none of us have relatives)

"Anyone here with a relative.... letter M.. I'm getting a strong... letter M... anyone? How bout you miss? I see an aura around you. Your dad's name start with M?"
 
"No"

"Brother?

"NO"

"Son?... UNCLE?..

"No"
 
"Was the letter M *IN* the name? ..."

"...um no" 

"What's your father's name"

"My father's not passed away"

"I didn't say he was. But what's his name?"

 "Herald"

"Does the last name have an M ?

"no!"

"It's Herald what?" 

"Ratnaster"

"Herald Ratnaster!  What a beautiful name!... but it's MISTER Herald Ratnaster right? SEE I AM AMAZING!!! Good night Drive safely. Don't forget to tip your waitresses and next time try the veal."

Some of this....  reminds me of that..... I know; it's a riveting story. ah-ite back to bed

 ::MonkeyCool::

below..... from over yonder aka "OY" - heh "JOB?" ....yikes. Trouble in paradise?....OY I'm not sure, but I think my favorite part is the "Godalmighty shutup and leave" in all caps. And not for nuttin, if sarcastic a$$ remarks are frowned on, many with  any hint of a sense of humor wouldn't last 2 seconds over at OY. I even briefly thought of --tongue-in-cheek -- screen-naming myself "Saracastic a$$"  Me thinks someone could benefit from V kitty; but as a disclaimer, I am not saying that in any professional capacity" **snort** That is all :-)

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Originally Posted by Tricia Today, 12:48 AM  #260
Administrator

As always 99.9 percent of you are wonderful, caring, and thoughtful posters to our guests.

To the rest of you. GOD ALMIGHTY SHUT UP AND LEAVE.

From now on any smart ass remarks ( not decent disagreeing but smart ass rude remarks) will earn that poster a banning for life. No questions asked.

Carry on.
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Originally Posted by passionflower Today, 01:02 AM #262

Thankyou Tricia and mods........
if this gets dangerous for our girls in Fla, can we go to members only??
I can't even imagine how it would be to be so close to any crime such as this one.
My heart goes out to our Fla. girls!
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Originally Posted by Tricia  Today, 03:19 AM #276
Administrator

Of course but remember, just because a thread is in the private area doesn't mean it won't be taken and posted all over the Internet.

We have members here whose job it is to steal posts and take them to other forums. Pretty petty and childish actually but true.

I hope and pray that our friends in Florida will not put themselves in any type of danger and if posting on Websleuths causes you concern that DON'T DO IT.

It's not worth it ladies. Turn off the computer and stay safe

Tricia
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http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80838&page=12 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80838&page=12)

But I would have spelled sarcastic correctly. **snort**

Good morning Rana -- We have not met -- I see that you have put in a lot of time and work on this case.  Thanks for all the information. 

Wyks -- I hope you are feeling better -- I have actually been sick with the same thing but no sore ribs, thank goodness. 

I just saw this and thought I would post the link -- http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-asec-caylee-anthony-haleigh-cummings-030509,0,7504565.story

Many,many boards that I have logged onto are doing this.
There sure is a lot of rumbling at ws these days.......... ::MonkeyEek::

Anna fl at ws is starting to remind me of that crazy Joy from the casey anthony case.  Whacky to say the least.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/18850854/detail.html#-  new news

On Wednesday, anyone who had been inside the Cummings' home was asked to give a DNA sample. Police called it a routine part of their investigation.

This could be the best thing they've done.  Maybe they have strange DNA somewhere in that house like from Haleigh's bed?  Or no strange DNA found anywhere in that house?

Didn't A Fl  say at WS LE showed up with subpoenas in hand for all the family and friends, which did not sound right as the family has seemed to be willing to do what asked...and this article says nothing like that either...I felt she was embellishing on the article that was posted yesterday about DNA...

Oh and Good Morning.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/18850854/detail.html#video

The comments under this video are talking about Anna fl at ws, it's all over the net about what she is doing.  Good now she can be more hated than the Bachlor Ha Ha!

They are saying this video of Ron is new, but if it is his hair sure grows fast.

Sally  commented 5 hours 39 minutes ago
Hi,I had to go look,because you all made me curious,you are right,what a horrible forum.Why would people stay at a forum that is so mean to thier members?Can the Cummings and Croslin Family find out who is this AnnaFl person who is?She comes to a board and turns it upside down,but it couldn't happen if it wasn't allowed.That is the meanest forum I have ever seen.Please find Haleigh,that is what it is all about.How shameful for a girl to go just to talk badly about a family,she should be ashamed.

Hmmmm me thinks the truth of A Fl will come out and looks like WS is getting their publicity.. Shame that Stormy had stopped posting before they got to see the full scope of that thread and what has been done.

Good Morning Searching!  I'm inclined to agree w/you about the reporter/friend of sheffield family sent to trash the cummings.  She knows nothing more than us and boy is the web burning up about her deeds of last night and what she did to us and what she is continuing to do to ws. 

I'm very excited about this DNA collecting, to me it means they can get down to any strange DNA in that house now.  If none strange it's gotta be a known person. 

I so want to go in there and post just not sure what to post to try to nail her.

Molly  commented 11 hours 16 minutes ago
If it's not bad enough with the families,there is a girl AnnaFl posting on forums and she knows as much about the families as a doorknob.People are sucking up to her to get answers she doesn't know.It is crazy what people will do to get attention.It is also very funny to see people sucking up to her on one section and another, talking about how little she doesn't know.I hope she doesn't start asking for donations,good grief.


LOLOL

I am hoping they got DNA from the brick at least to tie to someone.This girl has been gone too long. She needs to be found.

HH....very correct! Otherwise if they think that it is scary where they live, try living in some of the bigger cities.....give me a break...scared...yeah right!

Searching, I am skipping a few pages on this thread of which I will go back and catch up but I had to post this to you.....Sorry that you are distressed about your brother..but may I share that my own brother was "missing" for over 18 yrs...maybe longer...but in this last year, he has reached out to family and we have heard from him...My mother has still not seen or talked to him, long story, but I emailed him and my other brother has seen him and says that he is ok...He is/was a drinker and a gambler...I am pretty sure that he lost everything, including what he took from my mom.... but that is my brother...totally not your situation I am sure....Anyhooooo....just telling you this info to let you see/know that there is always hope for your loved one to come back as well....We did not hear from him in all the years that he was missing...we did not know what had happened to him...but now at least he is safe...Hope that the same happens for you and your family...

Thank you Cookie. Close to same situation,my brother has had issues of drugs and alcohol for many years. Was almost killed some years ago when he was thrown through a sliding glass door,he crawled up in someones yard to get away from the guy and by the time he was found,had bled almost to death. A family member claims to have spoken briefly to him around the time he disappeared,but said he spoke of skateboards/boarding. He is an artist and loves art,he has drawn beautiful things,and always spoke about the new picture he was working on or one he had finished,he plays guitar and always spoke of that and songs he was writing when talking to him,he even would play a song he wrote over the phone. so the skateboard/boarding thing just rings odd....I am sure he is alive somewhere..Maybe he will reach out sometime and hopefully he will be clean and sober.
Glad your brother is back where you know he is safe. Wonderful news and really does give hope.

That's the one great thing in life "You can't pick your family"  just love them for what they are worth.  As much as my brothers bother me w/their uppity weird ways I can't imagine not being able to reach out and call them and tell them that I love them and rehash old childhood memories.

It hurts just thinking about it.  You guys stay strong and I wish you HH, Cookie and Searching much love and peace.

Hey I found a MURT comment on Topix on the Windchime blog.

lily  commented  13 minutes ago
That forum (Websleuths) is ridiculous. If you read there with an objective perspective - you can tell that someone is posing as these characters that have "inside" information. stormy, AnnaFL, pirate and maybe others are typical posers giving just enough information to get everyone all intrigued and then when it comes to giving "real" information they are "tired", "scared", "on the phone with the family" or some other lame excuse. Yesterday was like reading a script in a really bad missing kid movie. And then, you get the condescending mods threatening "banning for life" anyone who dares to question this little charade. Don't go there if you're over 13 years old. Geesh

Searching....high 5 to you sister! I think that you and I were one of the first to suss this AnnaFl out, or at least to speak up about it...maybe the rest of the monkeys are nicer than me...but I call a spade a spade...I give everyone the benefit of the doubt but I have a limit..
I used to post on a forum when Madeleine McCann disappeared...there were a few characters on there who had more than one sock...they would come on the forum with all this vague info...then their sock would feed upon it, asking questions, backing him/her up....many people on the board hung on every word and believed the most unbelievable events! Finally after months of his < I know some detectives on the case and they are telling me blah blah...something will happen on this day or that day...but I can't tell you exactly cause they told me in secret....and on and on...
that is why I had my doubts about AnnaFl for one thing.....Some to this day still believe that character was telling the truth...even though not one thing came to be the truth, except of course what was already in the papers and news that this character repeated on the forum... ::MonkeyConfused::

O/T

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/TIF13AVKQLT1C0PPS

MURT Post#16 incase anybody missed it.  I don't know Murt, but know he was involved w/casey anthony case.

Fat cat...where were you last night? I missed your posts.... ::MonkeyWink::

I think I was slow on the uptake of what you guys were saying.  Dumby me...so gullable.

I was working doing Broker price opinions and popping in and out, that added to my slow revelation about what was going on with Anna fl character.

fat cat...in that article that you provided, where Ron said that he was moving from the trailer...understand that he is upset and does not want to go back there...
but what are everyone's thoughts? do you think that he should wait until Haleigh is found? how might she feel when she is found and taken to a strange different house? I know children adapt easily...but still, maybe he could/should wait for a while, yet he can't continue to live in a tent forever either...sigh....wish I had the right answers for them...The best thing would be if Haleigh was found today and then the dilemmas of where to stay/live would be solved for them..

I think it really sucks for someone to be so deceitfull when we are all here trying to help and give moral support out of the kindness of our hearts.  I'd really like to go down to Gainsville right now and give her a piece of my mind. 

I started to see that all the family members were checking in on their myspaces as the weeks went on so it was inevitable that this would happen.  But we know what they say about hind sight.  I still think it is some lame ass reporter trying to get us to do her work like Searching said. How hard can that job be what is she is sitting up in her house with no news trying to make news now.

I agree, have you seen his hair in this video, looks like he buzzed it......I thought so during the tattoo video, but wasn't positive until I saw this video............definitely far shorter.

But getting bad publicity, slammed.........

I sure hope we find her a live................

We have to look at Haleigh's side of this as well.  When she returns, and if she is put back into that same dwelling, what repercussions will it have on her??  I don't want to go into detail, but I think you understand what I mean about this.

Even if Ron was able to re-enter the home and feel comfortable.  What about Haleigh and Ron Jr.  We have no idea what is actually taking place while she is gone.

Grama...really good points about Haleigh and Ron Jr...thanks..

Wow~sorry, I totally missed the reporter part.......home with a sick kid and slow on the uptake, so Anna Fl is a reporter? And, how far is gainesville from Satsuma if anyone knows..........

we don't know if annafl is a reporter, but we suspect that she is a fake.....

Cookie I think if he had nothing to do with it he is acting right, when Haleigh is found he will march right back in there with her if she wants to go.  If she comes back and is traumatized she may have very bad feelings about that house.  If I were him and somebody broke in my house and stole my baby I would feel violated and not go back in either.  I've felt from the beginning that Ron was thinking about a SO taking her and all that that implies, I could just feel the grief in the pit of my stomach for that.  Your not sure who took you baby so your up and your down, you don't want to think the worst, but the best is so far away.  But that's my thoughts on Ron.  I may be reading to much into him, but he's got lots of depth to wade thru. 

By not going back in he also is leaving a pristine crime scene if there was an abduction it makes his statements valid to me for all his bad boy stuff.

It kinda throws me off if he did it.  Like the Ant's, go back in and get rid of crap and destroy evidence.   

Yep...you are right...I agree with what you are saying...I guess that I was looking at it through a child's eyes, where did my home go.... but on hindsight, it would be very scary and troubling for Haleigh to go back there as well...she would be scared....poor baby girl...

Well, I never even considered the reporter angle~but it's a good one.

I missed this too yesterday:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132855&catid=3


Meanwhile, Neves said Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, was looking to buy a home.

"He has a small amount of money for a down payment," she said.  ::MonkeyRoll:: Just peaks my curiosity that he/proxy on his behalf has set up a bank account for donations for his living expenses, rent, car payments etc per the statement they gave. If he has money to put down on an house, wouldn't it be more prudent to hire a PI to help out, that's what I would do-that would be a priority to me anyway.

where is it about the house and the money for down payment, I'll listen to the video again, but I didn't hear it or read it in that article???

Told ya I was slow today, I posted the prior link   ::MonkeyConfused::  .......it's in this one:

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/03/05/news/news01.txt

Police take more DNA samples in Haleigh case

By Larry Sullivan and Chris DeVitto
Published: Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:17 AM EST
Authorities obtained new DNA samples Wednesday from several people close to a 5-year-old Satsuma girl missing since Feb. 10.

The samples, sought by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, were taken to ensure investigators had good DNA materials from relatives and others who were around Haleigh Cummings, a sheriff's spokesman said.

Among those giving samples was Misty Croslin, the girlfriend of Haleigh's father who was babysitting the little girl when she vanished.

Samples had been taken earlier, said Capt. Dick Shauland, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.



"Evidently they weren't good so they resulted in having to retake them," Shauland said.

Shauland compared to samples to other forms of identification.

"It's sort of like FDLE having a record of them, like fingerprints," he said.

Haleigh was reported missing at 3:27 a.m. Feb. 10.

According to a sheriff's office report, Croslin told deputies she put Haleigh and Haleigh's little brother in the same bed about 8 p.m. the night before.

"Misty said they were sleeping in her bed, and when she laid down at around 10:30 p.m., both children were still in bed," the report says.

Croslin said she awoke at 3 a.m. to discover Haleigh missing and the back door open, the report says.

Croslin said Haleigh was wearing a pink shirt and tan pants, but investigators later found the pink shirt in the house and now say they don't know what Haleigh was wearing when she disappeared.

An Amber Alert for Haleigh was issued a short time later, triggering a massive search and investigation by local, state and federal authorities, including the FBI.

"The detectives are still following up leads," Shauland said Wednesday.

As of this week, the sheriff's office had received more than 2,300 tips about the case, Shauland said.

Also Wednesday, Haleigh's maternal grandmother said she had heard rumors that one lead in the case involving a cousin of Croslin.

"I don't know that it's going to take them anywhere," Teresa Neves said. "I don't know the guy or what kind of questions they asked. I can only trust them (police) to do that."

Shauland said investigators were following tips wherever they might lead.

"The cousin is still in the mix, as is everybody else," Shauland said. "We haven't eliminated anybody."

Shauland acknowledged the family's interest in leads from the case.

"They have legitimate concerns," he said. "All of this stuff is still being followed up by the detectives to be sure."

"Obviously they didn't pan out," Neves said. "I don't know what happened. We got that information yesterday. Surely if they had any information they would bring her home."

Meanwhile, Neves said Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, was looking to buy a home.

"He has a small amount of money for a down payment," she said.
Relatives of Cummings and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, who lives in Baker County, have maintained vigils in tents on the road leading to the Cummings rented home in Satsuma.

The Sheffields set up in a grassy area near Buffalo Bluff Road and the River Villas subdivision, but were told Wednesday they had to move from the site. They were hoping to relocate nearby.

Cummings' tent is in the front yard of a home not far from his house.

Neves said Wednesday the family was hopeful despite the passage of time.

"All you can have is hope and faith," she said. "You just have to trust that God will bring Haleigh home."

quote: "The cousin is still in the mix, as is everybody else," Shauland said. "We haven't eliminated anybody."

before, another officer was reported as saying that the cousin was cleared...not a suspect..wth?

Tricia on First Coast news blog now putting other blogs straight;

Tricia1234 wrote:
Dear Narnian and Crazyover8,

Tricia Griffith here. Owner Websleuths.com
You have misunderstood the situation at Websleuths. I posted a warning to other posters who were being down right rude to Anna. They can disagree and question and chose not to believe her but I don't want them to whip out smarta$$ remarks just to be mean. They can post the same message without being a jerk about it.
The reason I allowed Anna on to discuss what she knows is I spoke to her several times at length and it is my opinion she is very sincere and knowledgeable about the case.
Since there is no way to actually verify her accounts of the family and situations I have expressed to the members that although I believe her there is a chance she is not the real deal. I believe I said the door was open to the fact she might not be the real deal. Words to that effect. The members can decide for themselves if she is telling the truth. Like I said, I believe her.
It is a change from our usual rules of if you state fact you have to back it up or if it's your opinion you must state so. Because Anna can add a lot of background I felt her understanding of the inside workings was something the members of Websleuths would want to read about.
Also,I don't let Anna say anything she wants. We have edited her posts and deleted them too. As long as people are not rude to Anna they can post what they want.
I hope this clears it up. If you want to email me please do so at triciastidbits@yahoo.com

Tricia1234 wrote:
Showing the family dynamic is helpful to the case. No one has been ruled out as a suspect. If the police come out and say the parents, girlfriend, cleared then you're right. It would never be allowed. As it stands now no one has been cleared and to take it a step further, the family's behavior may have something to do with her disappearance. We just don't know. We have a 17 year old girl not only the caretaker of two small children but is also the girlfriend of the 24 year old dad. That in itself is shocking to me and could have a direct connection to the who and why, then again maybe not. Until someone is cleared then a look into the family dynamic, both sides, is welcomed.


I'm sorry but this about Misty being 17 has PO'ed me from the beginning, my mom was 16 and dad 19, by the time mom was 20 she had 3 she was changing diapers when she was 5, I know many many young mothers and god help you if you do something to their children.  Even Laura Ingles boyfriend woulda been considered a peddie by todays standards.  Sorry guys but this is just the way it is in some places, it is old as time and I don't see it changing anytime soon.  And if the Croslins have no beef with it than the po po will not do a damn thing about it.  Don't waste my tax dollars on some 16 yr old who wants to shack up w/24 yr go get the real bad guys who go after those under 12.  But to say that because these are shacking up is the root of this is just wrong.  It goes on everywhere.  Hell we used to marry 13 yr olds to each other and this still takes place around the world.  JMO  Go ahead throw nanners now.

Great minds Grama, I was going to say the same thing. I do not see Haleigh feeling safe in her bed for a long time if ever after she is found.

Island thank you.  This DNA thing sounds awfully suspect to me.  Sounds to me like they have something and local LE got the wrong kind of samples from family.

Also Ron supposedly has 2 jobs he does side landscaping for his aunt Katrina Belcher?

Maybe we should ask the Pastor/Reverand of Ron's to verify what the funds can be used for?

isn't tricia the same one who trusted that admin person who turned out to be a pedo?
her credibility is not real high on some peoples list....from what I have seen on other forums...I personally know nothing about her so I can't say...just if they are supposed to be such slueths, why didn't they slueth their own admin? just asking a question..

Few things I may have missed here yesterday. 

1.  AnnaFL posted that she WAS NOT in Satsuma,(this was from last evening, one of her posts on WS) if so.....how did she know that Ron was not AT THE TRAILER ALL DAY.

2.  If the incident with Ron stealing money / drugs is / was true, how / why...would this be the case...as supposedly he has some money for a down payment on a dwelling.

Question to think about.  If some bad people have Haleigh because Ronald owes them money or stole money from them, then why wasn't Haleigh returned for the reward?  Especially when LP had $25,000 in the mix.  Why would some bad guys hold onto a little child.  Children are hard to deal with, they cry, need to be fed, all sorts of troublesome things for someone that is doing it out of revenge.  This is the main reason I do not believe the reports coming from "over there" that everyone is so afraid.  The rewards would have fixed that problem, the bad guys would have taken it and run. 

I agree with you Today, doesn't make sense, I see I missed things again overnight with this poster who claims to be a family member.

Cookie, you are spot on. Same Tricia and some think that Windchme is still there at WS under a different nic. I can believe that. She and Tricia were BFF after all. It is sad that in the haste and want for fame/fortune/recognition,Tricia is willing to stoop to the levels she is.

FCL, I think you misunderstood one of my posts. What I was saying is, I think Anna Fl was embellishing on an article that came out yesterday morning about LE asking for DNA from family/friends. Anna Fl claimed  LE rushed in with hand full of subpoenas for DNA from ALL FAMILY and FRIENDS .. I found that suspect,did they just have blanket subpoenas without names and fill in a name of who was standing there? Although, the reporter angle is a pretty good one. I however suspect it is a closet joy or murt. If you read at that topix site and yes, it is the same anna,the link came from WS, page 14 on,you will see she knew NOTHING about the family to start, then later after gathering information from around the web,she claimed to be a cousin,that is why I asked her who's cousin she is,and she would not answer me. she will not say how she is related in WS how ever which just brings the red flag higher.

1. cus she is friends w/crystal and they are watching him like a hawk instead of sharing the time on some random person equally.  Anger/revenge will make you do that.  This meshes w/his statement about not being able to get away.  I'd like to get her side of the story, not her momma's-HER'S. Not her past story, but todays.  Is she watching Ron, does she think he did it.  She's said herself that Haleigh is Ron's heart and she doesn't think he did it.

2.  stolen drug money?  I don't see him whipping that out there right now, you'd think LE would be all over that.  And the fed as we have FBI also on the case.  Stealing from the fund, the same see above.

JMO

I too caught that DNA blurb.........that was odd. Well, as in everything in this case, there are two sides to the landscape "job", and I'm not free to elaborate on them.

Here is th info about the donations:

A Bank of America account has been established by a  San Mateo funeral home to help the family of Haleigh Cummings. They are asking for donations of any size. You can drop off a donation at any Bank of America branch or donate online. The “Haleigh Cummings Fund” is account number 8980 2673 7912.

“Ronald has been out of work, keeping vigil, waiting for Haliegh to come home,” Jamie Watts with Watts Funeral Home said Thursday. “There’s finances being incurred and the community wants to help.”

Watts’ Funeral Home is also selling Haleigh buttons and t-shirts.

I think iot is Watt's who is in charge of setting up the donations and where they are being used, and in the video/article it mentioned car payments, rent etc., and if he has enough money to put down on a house, I think he could use it to add to the reward, fliers for Haleigh and a private investigator.........to my knowledge I can't remember the pastor weighing in on the donations since he didn't set any of it up, I'm unsure he would know.

Because she can not keep her lies straight.. She also,when asked where,responded with Gainsville.. umm funny,that's where her isp shows up from. I believe Ron was there and I have not seen Stormy or Anna post, have any of you? not that I have looked either,I did when I first got up...but not since then.

Searching, please don't let what happened over at WS upset you anymore, I know that is hard to do, but take care. I'm so mad about all of this I can't see straight. Mary

My non physchic prediction is that one or more of the three will become to frightened to post.  There will be some kind of big announcement.  Maybe even saying that the locals are afraid of what's being posted about them at, yep you guessed it SM.  This too will blow over, trust me. Don't take it personal.  My hope is HH can get more real local information. 

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ahhh yes... I am with FCL on that.. That information came from Anna fl and her side kick Stormy. I doubt it is true. LE would definitely be all over that like flies on horse dung. We have also seen how well Anna keeps her story straight.

Ahh No rose, I am hurt,but because that is one less place for my brothers info to be, but is ok. I have so many kind people right here at SM that it has really brought me through, I was crying last night over the situation and decision I felt I had to make in removing his information from there but I feel better today, I have gotten so many words of encouragement and it is very helpful. They chose a high profile case over mine and chose to believe people that had no clue were even who they said they were and ultimately banned me over them,for the high profile case. That is telling in its self. It shows even more what the agenda is over there. Also, well, there is this person that had her BFF windchime as a mod for all that time, a mod that could get information on families,users of WS, whom is a convicted SO.. So, I consider the source. I am proud to be a monkey, proud to be with such kind,caring people. I do thank you and all other monkeys,many times over for your kind words and encouragement.

hahaha you and I must be riding the same psychic wave. I have been waiting for that post you speak of to show up there.    ::MonkeyRoll::

Nope both have blue lights next to their names.

Hey if Anna comes in here I want it posted in Big Letters ok?!

Anna fl   sorry Anna.

I was just over yonder and LFlorida is repeatedly asking if Stormy is all right... oh and LFloridas cop friend called while she was posting and phone screwing up and yada yada.. go look, it is amusing...

This is heartbreaking... a video of Haleigh and her little brother opening presents last Christmas has just been released to the media (no sound on the video). You can find it here (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/022509Haeligh_Video).

which blog did you see this on, I do not see it.

and all the really good posters are gone.  ss and winterrose won't even go in there and I really enjoyed there posts, IDK them, but liked what they were saying to stormy and anna fl.

it is amusing, I'm supposed to be working and can't stay away, working at home is really hard some days.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132855&catid=3

scroll down to comments section

i wrote this part;

I'm sorry but this about Misty being 17 has PO'ed me from the beginning, my mom was 16 and dad 19, by the time mom was 20 she had 3 she was changing diapers when she was 5, I know many many young mothers and god help you if you do something to their children.  Even Laura Ingles boyfriend woulda been considered a peddie by todays standards.  Sorry guys but this is just the way it is in some places, it is old as time and I don't see it changing anytime soon.  And if the Croslins have no beef with it than the po po will not do a damn thing about it.  Don't waste my tax dollars on some 16 yr old who wants to shack up w/24 yr go get the real bad guys who go after those under 12.  But to say that because these are shacking up is the root of this is just wrong.  It goes on everywhere.  Hell we used to marry 13 yr olds to each other and this still takes place around the world.  JMO  Go ahead throw nanners now.

It's unbelievable, it's childish, and I would like to know why that is going on when an innocent child is gone?

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"she can not keep her lies straight".
Oh goody, this case needs this like another hole in a head....
Hope this doesn't hurt the case........ ::MonkeyConfused::

It's like Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys  ::MonkeyRoll::

Ditto on this link too from an earlier post here...forgot the posters name sorry.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/18850854/detail.html#- ::MonkeyHaHa::

And what's this about Ron buying a house? Again tatoo and buying a house while daughter is missing, here comes my cynical side.  ::MonkeyRoll::

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-asec-caylee-anthony-haleigh-cummings-030509,0,5058660.story

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Caylee Anthony, Haleigh Cummings: Cases' key similarities, differences
Eight months later, Caylee Anthony and Casey Anthony remain squarely in the spotlight. Yet only a few weeks after Haleigh Cummings disappeared, interest in her case is dwindling.
Helen Eckinger

Sentinel Staff Writer

March 5, 2009

The day everyone said goodbye to Caylee Marie Anthony, the world learned about another missing little girl.

So TV trucks rolled from the 2-year-old's memorial in Orlando to a double-wide trailer about 80 miles away in Putnam County — the place where 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings was last seen alive.

"It was deja vu all over again," said Bob Longo, news director for WESH-Channel 2.

During the following days, the pack of satellite trucks parked near Haleigh Cummings' home in tiny Satsuma rivaled the media turnout after Caylee's remains were found in December near her home in east Orange County.

But soon, reporters on the latest missing-little-girl story began leaving Satsuma.

It wasn't deja vu after all.

Haleigh's story is fading after three weeks, but the Anthony saga has remained in the headlines for almost eight months.

The contrast between the tents and trailer in Satsuma where Haleigh's family pleaded for her return and the Anthonys' suburban home points to one of the reasons Haleigh's story is fading from the headlines, said Roy Peter Clark, senior scholar at the Poynter Institute.

"I think the greatest difference between the Caylee story and the Haleigh story is social class," said Clark, whose institute is a school for journalists in St. Petersburg. "I don't believe that working-class Americans get a very fair shake in the news media in general."

Only a handful of reporters remain in this isolated community north of the Ocala National Forest — even though investigators said Haleigh was abducted and they think she is alive.

Expect more coverage in the months leading up to October's trial for Caylee's 22-year-old mother, Casey Anthony, who is accused of killing her daughter.

"Any missing child is a tragedy and a cause for great alarm and concern," said Bob Jordan, news director for WFTV-Channel 9. "Every one of those kids is news, but that does not translate into equal news interest."



Strange twists stand out
The Anthony case has all the elements and more of the kind of stories guaranteed to draw an audience: sex, crime and general interest, said Paul Lachelier, an assistant professor of sociology at Stetson University.

Photos of a scantily clad Casey Anthony, reports about her romantic life and the stories she told about a nanny who abducted her daughter — a story investigators don't believe — are drawing readers.

So are other details, including the serious charges against the young mother, frequent courtroom battles and the behavior of her parents, George and Cindy Anthony.

The photos and videos of Caylee also captivate viewers.

The case also has provided bizarre twists and turns, beginning when Casey Anthony was arrested after claiming Caylee had been missing for 30days.

"When she was questioned about that, her effect was so flat and unemotional that it called our human experience into question," veteran Orlando defense attorney Cheney Mason said.

Then, Mason said, a "circus" ensued: California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla injected himself into the situation. Casey Anthony was in and out of jail. Protesters routinely amassed outside the Anthony home demanding justice.

"There is constant fuel for the fire," Mason said.

The Haleigh case hasn't offered as many twists and turns. News crews scrambled recently after cadaver dogs hit on a scent in a dumpster. But the container was searched and nothing was found.

Most media coverage of Haleigh's disappearance has revolved around her family's pleas for her safe return.


Fewer leaks, less to say
Law enforcement has released little information about its investigation into Haleigh's disappearance, unlike the Caylee case, which was marked by frequent news conferences and leaks from insiders.

"The return of Haleigh is the most important thing, but we also have a crime involved somewhere with her disappearance," Capt. Dick Schauland of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said.

"We're trying not to jeopardize the criminal investigation or possible future prosecution."

For Orlando media, coverage also has been hampered because Satsuma is far away — a two-hour drive for some — and because Putnam County isn't considered part of its market.

Jordan, WFTV's news director, and Steve Hyvonen, news director for WKMG-Channel 6, had different opinions about the Anthony case: Hyvonen said that the story continues to generate strong ratings and that WKMG viewers are clamoring for more coverage, while Jordan said his station is no longer seeing the rating spikes that occurred early on in the case, and that he thinks viewers might be getting sick of the story.

The directors said their stations have received little viewer feedback about the Haleigh story.

"We have been up there just because it's such a significant story," Hyvonen said.

"But as each day goes by without a new development, it get a little lower as far as where it plays in the newscast."

I don't trust their (WS) vetting process. She didn't even know her own moderator was a child sex offender but talks to someone who posts with a local Florida IP on the phone once or twice and believes they have super secret insight.

It isn't about finding Haleigh over in that thread. It's about bashing Ron and pretending like something "big" is happening. Some grand conspiracy. That AnneFl chick said Ron hadn't been in his tent all day in one thread and then said she was "an hour away" in another. How the heck does she know what Ron is doing?
Heaven forbid you call Crystal or her family into question..

It's all about WS wanting to look like they have an exclusive and drumming up traffic.

Tricia has become the Geraldo of the Sleuthing Community.

Thank you Pooky!   ::MonkeyWink::   Seems quite a few folks have the same kind of thing going on, it's very odd!   Like we have become immune to the reg. antibiotics or something.   Hope you are feeling better soon too! 

Tricia has becom the Geraldo of the Sleuthing Community, exactly and very well stated.

Don't breathe on me. ;)

Hope you both are feeling better. Thank you for the link and for the work you are doing here.

LOL pink!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Haleigh 'not a cold case'
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20090305/ARTICLES/903050987


Sad quote. Breaks my heart.

This has no doubt already been posted, as it is sev. days old.  I snipped part of the article cuz I find the bolded part VERY interesting!! 


SATSUMA, Fla. -- In a time when many businesses are thinking about their bottom line, the Spur Saloon in downtown Palatka is thinking of other people. The bar managers are going to donate 100% of the door charges from Thursday, Friday and Saturday to Haleigh Cummings mother.
 
“I have a seven-year-old and a four-year-old, and I would go crazy if I lost a child, and we wanted to do something special,” said Miguel Ziolko, Spurs Saloon Manager.


This is a local business to Ron, and yet... they are donating 100% of the door charges to Crystal!!   This is very kind of them to do.  And I think it's very telling that they aren't donating this $$ to Ron.  What do you guys think? 

Sorry, forgot the link:

http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/Local-Bar-Helping-Haleigh-Cummings-Family/DoWtjBhisEG2__zsZch6oA.cspx (http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/Local-Bar-Helping-Haleigh-Cummings-Family/DoWtjBhisEG2__zsZch6oA.cspx)

did I do a bad no rose?  I was just posting that as the pstchic wave post really seems to be coming true... seems that Stormy will be to afraid to post is what I was thinking. Was not meaning to do a bad. I said before and will say again, people should work together to find these missing people,not try to hide information and sneak to get glory for being a super sleuth. Their hearts are apparently not in the right place. I am sorry if I did a bad...

I think it is telling to some level. Maybe they seen all the donations were going to Ron,whom lives there,has family there yet Crystal lives a ways away from there and is not getting any donations so to speak,yet I do not think she nor her family has asked for any either,which also speaks volumes.

Hopefully with everyone working together,she will not become a cold case,we monkeys will try to not let that happen, right?

I don't think so Searching.  My take on her comments is that they were directed at those over yonder on what you had posted, not at you personally. 

Right! 

It could be because of that, Searching.  Thanks for your viewpoint on it!   ::MonkeyWink::

Umm did I miss something? I knew Crystal owed back child support,but not Ron.... Anyone?

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Do you think this is a feasible theory?
Ron owed Joe drug money. There was a fight between the two.
Misty was angry about the money - Ron owed for the kids and now owed drug money too.
Misty took her anger out on Haleigh. She contacted her brother to help her dispose of the body. Her brother used the van and dropped Haleigh's body in the river (attached to one of those cement bricks).
Misty "bricked" the door and made sure she mentioned it to the dispatch when she called 911. She was beginning her story that would frame Joe. Getting Joe off Ron's back meant they wouldn't have to pay their drug debt and she would not be accountable for Haleigh's death.
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Ahh Thank you Wyks, whew, was worried there for a minute.

Regarding the article comparing the Caylee and Haleigh case, my take on the Caylee case is that her family has made the whole circus from the start. And everyone loves to go to the circus.  There were new circus acts almost daily.  I believe that a lot of this was driven for the money that could be had.  Haleigh's case is different in that there is some circus, mostly blog driven, but not much.  So no media attention.  Then there is Adji, whos family has done nothing circus like.  And there is little to no media coverage.  It was good that NG had the new information about Adji last night otherwise he would be easily forgotten.

If NG was smart she will see the interest in all these cases.  She could easily feature three a night.  I do not understand why JVM & NG seem to be covering the same thing, NG has almost become a rehash of JVM. 

Oh Searching please don't think I meant you, the behavior over on WS has disgusted me to no end, I am a member, though I will not post there they make me so mad. Searching :smt052

You did nothing wrong, I read it the same way Wyks did.

I do have on favor, I don't know which place you are copying the posts from.  If you know who you could just copy the the link and paste, if not could you just tell us where the posts are coming from?

Thank-you Wyks that is exactly what I meant, I don't express myself well when I'm upset, I would never hurt anyone's feelings here.

I don't think I've read it reported anywhere that Ron owed money to anyone.  Maybe the poster just meant that for a theory? 

Or maybe she meant 'Ron owed for the kids' to mean that Ron was owed for the kids, not that he himself owed the $$? 

I agree, Today!  Seems NG's heart isn't in her shows anymore.  She seems distracted by her babies, which truth be told, I'd probably be as well.  However, NG's shows are not much except for repeated taped sections and, as you say, a rehash of JVM.   I cannot believe she's still leading out stories on Caylee/Casey with that same old 'breaking news....'   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Am beginning to think that NG's shows are about done, let the Friday night dude take over or step away.  IMO. 

Thank you. I was so afraid I had done bad. :)     

What??  Anther CIRCUS.  Goodness, now we have the Anthony Circus and also the Cummings Circus. 

Everyone wants to get their act in.  Also, remember there is a very large sum of monies...still available as in..REWARD.

Money plays funny tricks on people's minds.

Sad to say, but darn well true.

I took that as saying he owes for the kids, like back support..could we have missed a post where AnnaFl claimed this? or one of the others?  Ohh and I read a post on one of those links posted,news site,can not remember which now,but brought up Pirate now saying they are a relative,yet they joined in Dec. I think it was..soooo they joined a sleuthing site for missing persons before the relative was missing?? Can we say premeditated or at least running a scam???

Here Here!!!  Repeated is putting it mildly.  The same goes for NG opening words.  How many times did we have to watch Casey in her jail visit with G & C., the video of Caylee reading her book??  If they were indeed lost for more videos, discussion on the case, then get on with it.

Cover other missing children, like Adji & Haleigh. 

It is so hard to understand all of this, never in a million years would money matter to me under these circumstances and it makes me ill that people do these things.

Good Day Monkeys, well I see the Fl people at WS has flew the coop for awhile, trying to figure out which stories to make up for their next trip to the forum, WTFE,  anyway, yea, like I said ....no big distraction yesterday, no helecoptors flying around, no police charging in and grabbing DNA from everyone, what a joke on WS......

I so agree with everything you just said Pink! I stated last night that if AnnaFl was for real, I would eat a dog biscuit.. Let's just find Haleigh and let WS and T stroke their own egos.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Haleigh's Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=64767608915)
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We could have missed a post for sure.  Could be that he owes child support for Jordan and the other possible child it's rumored that he has.  Heck it's hard keeping up, so am very glad we can all keep our eyes open and put our heads together on this stuff!  lol 

I read that from Pirate too, can't remember where she said that tho.  It does seem an odd coinkydink that she joined before Haleigh went missing.  A in Fl has said that there a million cousins to the family.  Considering how it seems that most folks are related to each other in some way in that area, it might be very true.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Am thinking that at the very least some of those who say they are 'related' to one of the families could be online to distract in some way.  It may seem they want Haleigh found, yet there could be a hidden agenda.  Am sitting back watching, trying to puzzle out what that could be.  Seems cases such as this often brings out some real weirdos!  Just makes it harder for those who are being honest and sincere, only trying to help. 

That's sure true, Grama!  It was good to see NG covering Adji's case yesterday. 

Thanks for posting this!   ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80795&page=12

Apparently some members are starting to stand up to be heard.

I am not sure about the DNA testing though, because they only lived in the house for several months, correct?  Couldn't unknown DNA come from previous tennants or their friends?  Help me see how this would help?  ::MonkeyConfused::

woops..looks like WS members are hitting the hills,there is another poster there that said they do not go there because of the shenanigans....  Im glad I am a monkey... I have also seen where people are applying here at SM because they feel our hearts are in the right place... They are so right..So,lets weed out all those rumors go back,list facts as we know them and find out what happened to this baby girl.

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Tricia Griffith here. Owner Websleuths.com
You have misunderstood the situation at Websleuths. I posted a warning to other posters who were being down right rude to Anna. They can disagree and question and chose not to believe her but I don't want them to whip out smart$$ remarks just to be mean. They can post the same message without being a jerk about it.
The reason I allowed Anna on to discuss what she knows is I spoke to her several times at length and it is my opinion she is very sincere and knowledgeable about the case.
Since there is no way to actually verify her accounts of the family and situations I have expressed to the members that although I believe her there is a chance she is not the real deal. I believe I said the door was open to the fact she might not be the real deal. Words to that effect. The members can decide for themselves if she is telling the truth. Like I said, I believe her.
It is a change from our usual rules of if you state fact you have to back it up or if it's your opinion you must state so. Because Anna can add a lot of background I felt her understanding of the inside workings was something the members of Websleuths would want to read about.
Also,I don't let Anna say anything she wants. We have edited her posts and deleted them too. As long as people are not rude to Anna they can post what they want.
I hope this clears it up. If you want to email me please do so at triciastidbits@yahoo.com


So not true...
Anna can drag Ronald Thur the mud all she wants....Someone tries to question her about something that is not already public information...AnnaFl says she would whether not say or can't answer that...Give me a break she is some teenage kid with nothing else better to do with her time...Tricia don't worry i won't be back to your site...I see how you treat people....Everyone is right about the drama they keep going over there to keep everyone on the edge of their seats....
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At least here on FCN all they will do is delete your post...You don't get a time out for not agreeing with some fakes...

Everybody has a right to their opinions on FCN but not on Websluthes...Hey Tricia, i hope Annafl was worth all the members you have now last because of her and your unfair treatment.
3/5/2009 1:34 PM EST on firstcoastnews.com

IIRC they asked for DNA from family friends as well. I would hope that after 4 or 5 months there would not be a previous tenants DNA there,least I would hope not..that could really confuse the investigation huh?

Did we have this information..oh and yeah,WS took that from insessiontrials.. hello pot,im kettle..     ::MonkeyNoNo::

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I posted this in the Anna thread in response to some comments made over there but since this is the Ron thread I thought I should post it here as well. If that isn't the right thing to do I apologize.

Someone on another message board called Ron's work several days ago to find out the shifts.
His shift is from 4:30 p.m. until 3:00 a.m.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/sh...0#post12832046
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The connection??

Originally Posted by ElizaAvalon 
This is probably for the Ron thread, but maybe Anna can verify. I believe someone posted yesterday that Ron worked for his aunt Katrina B.

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IIRC Anna said that he works with her in the side, with her tree triming srevice. I am sorry, i don't know were it is located on this thread, but someone posted the web site to the business. hope that helps. Someone please correct if wrong info.

I'm tired of this.  One person PM me and we can talk over the phone so ya'll can put this to rest with calling me a liar.

Look, all I care about is finding Haleigh.  I don't even know what all  this talk is of banning or how these websites even work.   Or are related.  All I know is that people call me on the phone and tell me that people are saying I am a reporter, a liar, weirdo or whatever.  What does this have to do with Haleigh?  Please stop being mean.  I tried to find a phone number for Scared Monkeys so I could call and talk to them to clear up all these bizarre rumors, but I can't find a phone number.  So if somebody wants to PM me, I will be happy to call to clear the confusion.

There are no pm's on this site.

ok.  Well, is there a contact number for this site?

This is just weird..............(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/Tot5658/emoticons/gifs4/Xtras/Gifs%20from%20sherry/th179.gif)

Anna,I feel sure you could email Klaas for whatever reason you choose.She will be glad to help resolve the issue if she can.Does that help?

yes, true. I know but what steams me is that two members at OY who are also monkeys got banned for.... well long story short - it was absurd.

You won't find a phone number as we don't make it a practice to call members due to privacy issues.

In these forums there will always be believers and nonbelievers, it's just the way it is.  You are correct in that Haleigh is all important here and nothing else.  Why even worry what others are saying about you since you know you are telling the truth? 

FWIW any rumors that started about you started at WS and not at SM.  Like I said, there will always be nonbelievers and that's a chance you take.

I will not allow this thread to turn into a thread about you or your believability.