Lively Case Discussion #675 8/8 - 8/10/2007

[SunnyinTX]

Easy, correct me if I'm wrong, but does that NOT say he became a lawyer in 2006?   Was he a Judge before he was a Lawyer?   I will ask NO MORE!!!!

he went from:

- lawyer in the Netherlands
to
- lawyer for the Aruban government (according to Hasibokus)
to
- contract proofer for the Aruban government (Brabants Dagblad)
to
- secretary/office manager in a department of the Prosecution office
to
- trainee judge
to
- lawyer

At least that is what the Brabants Dagblad said.

Now that I read that he must be a bit of a loser, never being able to keep a job for more than a few years 

thanks Ramm....I agree about him being a loser.....but wouldn't it be great to know exactly why he left each of those positions.....

[Rammstein]

Easy, correct me if I'm wrong, but does that NOT say he became a lawyer in 2006?   Was he a Judge before he was a Lawyer?   I will ask NO MORE!!!!

he went from:

- lawyer in the Netherlands
to
- lawyer for the Aruban government (according to Hasibokus)
to
- contract proofer for the Aruban government (Brabants Dagblad)
to
- secretary/office manager in a department of the Prosecution office
to
- trainee judge
to
- lawyer

At least that is what the Brabants Dagblad said.

Now that I read that he must be a bit of a loser, never being able to keep a job for more than a few years 

thanks Ramm....I agree about him being a loser.....but wouldn't it be great to know exactly why he left each of those positions.....

yes, but the Netherlands has very strict privacy laws and thus information like that is almost impossible to obtain.

[SunnyinTX]

In my search for photos of Joran, I did find this one of Steve Croes with a new hair color at CnC.  This was taken last night 8/8/07:

..and the new hair color sure doesn't help....he looks twice his age

[SunnyinTX]

thanks Ramm....I agree about him being a loser.....but wouldn't it be great to know exactly why he left each of those positions.....

yes, but the Netherlands has very strict privacy laws and thus information like that is almost impossible to obtain.

thanks Ramm....it was just one of those 'I wish' things

[oldfart]

Silly question  here...
So was Paulis a Judge in training in May 2005 or  held some other position ?

[oldfart]

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[2NJSons_Mom]

Klaas,

What's that on Steve Croes's shirt?

Easy,

I tend to agree about the olive branch, fwiw. 

[klaasend]

Klaas,

What's that on Steve Croes's shirt?

Easy,

I tend to agree about the olive branch, fwiw. 

Not sure - it's a photo screen print of some guy..who knows.

[Rammstein]

Silly question  here...
So was Paulis a Judge in training in May 2005 or  held some other position ?

I disagree, not a silly question.

I know that Paul van der Sloot was in the Netherlands (Den Bosch or Hertogenbosch as it is officially known) for his training to become a judge in 2004 because I found a reference to him at a judicial site.

Some sources say he was told that there would be no place for him on the bench prior to Natalee's disappearance and some claim afterwards.

I don't know, I believe it was before and that he was trying to milk the government for more money by what he lawyer claimed but I cannot prove that, documents like that are protected by privacy laws.

[greeneyedlady]

Klass wrote -

Exactly - that photo has to have been taken in the Netherlands.  Wonder if the Sloots still own a home there or if that was the home of a relative?
~~~~

I've always wondered if the VDS still have the 'estate' that he defended for IIRC 20 years to prevent the construction of a new road, for the purpose of safety.

Never found out what happened to that property.  Was it entailed?  Part of an inheritance?  Titled?

How large?  Value?  Lost for taxes?  Who owns it now?

I wonder some times why some describe them as average, when they had an 'estate' in Holland to defend.

IIRC, the road was build elsewhere.

[Rammstein]

Klass wrote -

Exactly - that photo has to have been taken in the Netherlands.  Wonder if the Sloots still own a home there or if that was the home of a relative?
~~~~

I've always wondered if the VDS still have the 'estate' that he defended for IIRC 20 years to prevent the construction of a new road, for the purpose of safety.

Never found out what happened to that property.  Was it entailed?  Part of an inheritance?  Titled?

How large?  Value?  Lost for taxes?  Who owns it now?

I wonder some times why some describe them as average, when they had an 'estate' in Holland to defend.

IIRC, the road was build elsewhere.

I think it was his families/parents property that he tried to save. So he will not get much money from it until 1 or both of his parents die.

But your right, a nice plot of land can sometimes be worth a lot of money. How much will go to PvdS depends on the number of brothers and sisters he has.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Klaas,

What's that on Steve Croes's shirt?

Easy,

I tend to agree about the olive branch, fwiw. 

Not sure - it's a photo screen print of some guy..who knows.

Was thinking Che Guevara, the Argentinian revolutionary, but that's because Che is legible...can't really see the picture as well. 

[greeneyedlady]

Thanks, Ramm.

[Rammstein]

Thanks, Ramm.

I am not sure though he has brothers and sisters, but his parents came from the part of the Netherlands were it was almost impossible to find condoms due to the influence of the Catholic Church so most families in the South had plenty of kids.

[greeneyedlady]

Thanks, Ramm.

I am not sure though he has brothers and sisters, but his parents came from the part of the Netherlands were it was almost impossible to find condoms due to the influence of the Catholic Church so most families in the South had plenty of kids.

OK...LOL..did they make condoms back then?
Well I don't know-that was before my time.

[Kermit]

JULIA RENFRO REFERS TO PAULUS AS A JUDGE - I do not believe people would call him a judge if he
did not hear cases in Aruba!
Taxi drivers probably make more than the judge!
Julia Renfro
Editor-in-Chief
Aruba Today
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1982.540

[Kermit]

Kermit - looks like the same guy in the other photo with the radiator to me.

Yeah I think so too - that wiry hair is a dead give away.

[Kermit]

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Quote from: boywonder on Today at 07:36:55 AM
You wouldnt know when the Prosecutor General( mrs. Fernanda Croes-Pedra) learned that PVDS contract had expired and that he failed the judge in training? It has been banded about here that Paulus knew in March 2005 ..Was it his obligation to inform his boss or did the Joint Common Court of Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles notify her?

But mrs. Fernanda Croes-Pedra was not his boss, his boss was mr. ing. L.A.J. de Lannoy, the president of the court of Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles.

He had no links to the prosecutor general, mrs. Croes-Fernandes Pedra (sorry, I copied down the name incorrectly) was only appointed on februari 1st 2002 so Paul van der Sloot only worked for her for about 11 months before he got a job as judge (a procedure that takes many months). It could even be that Paul van der Sloot applied for ajudges position because of mrs. Croes-Fernandes Pedra because some feel she was a politically motivated appointee by the MEP government.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=3077.345

[Kermit]

PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT DID PERFORM AS A JUDGE IN ARUBA

"Paul van der Sloot is a judge-in-training, serving a three-year term on the bench that allows him to hear a limited number of cases."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159970,00.html

[klaasend]

PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT DID PERFORM AS A JUDGE IN ARUBA

"Paul van der Sloot is a judge-in-training, serving a three-year term on the bench that allows him to hear a limited number of cases."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159970,00.html

Judge or no judge, IMO Paul VDS is involved at least in the coverup of what happened to Natalee that night.  "He will do anything to protect his son".  His son that was known to have anger problems, the one who killed his own dog and blamed it on a friend.  The son that obviously ruled the household and did whatever he wanted.  The son who stole from his mother.  The sociopath that harmed Natalee.

PVDS is scum for protecting his son.