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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 - 7/13/09 (Read 433489 times)
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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What wonderful pictures of Dave and his Natalee. Special thoughts to them
today.
Happy Father's Day to all the Dad Monkeys!
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KTF - Some OBSERVABLE progress would be great to see, or some verbal assurance. Guess I will have to cling to hope, that one day Natalee will be returned and justice will be served.
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on June 21, 2009, 01:01:15 AM
Progress is being made even though there is no
observable
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My Canoe is always ready & waiting for it's maiden voyage!
I agree.
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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ARUBA - The Untold Story of Natalee Holloway and Corruption in Paradise
Dave Holloway:
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I watched as she received her high school diploma, and I took pictures of her at her graduation ceremony. I planned to be there when she graduated from college and then medical school. My pride would have enveloped us both. I had long imagined the day when I would see my Natalee in her beautiful white wedding grown. We would meet in the back of the church for her last moments as "daddy's little girl" and, as she encircled my arm with hers, I would lean down and whisper the words that all fathers must say to their daughters on that very special day, "I love you." I would walk her down the aisle and proudly offer her hand to her fiance, and I would return to my seat knowing that my girl had accomplished all that a father could desire. At that moment, it would be clear that the first tier of her life with me had come to an end and that the man she would now look to for approval and love would be her husband. But she would always be my little Natalee ... always.
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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HAPPY FATHER'S DAY DADDY AND GRANDPA MONKEYS!!
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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ARUBA - The Tragic Untold Story of Natalee Holloway and Corruption in Paradise
Dave Holloway
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By the beginning of August, I had already spent at least fifty days in Aruba, and it was wearing me thin. While reports were coming from people like Jossy Mansur and others, I was quite depressed about the lack of any solid information in Natalee’s case. There were moments when we desperately needed to regroup, but we had to keep moving forward in our search for Natalee. During those times when we traveled back home, friends and family put us back into our comfort zone and made the days more bearable. It was hard to take, when we reflected on college and her birthday and then pictured Natalee being buried in a landfill or at sea. It was during those times that I would take a moment to reflect back to when Natalee was much younger. I suppose we all do that when our children leave home. We wish for those times when we still have them under our wings, knowing their every move, and watching them learn about life. But, this is different from anything I had envisioned. I had planned to someday tell Natalee’s children about her growing up years, as she would sit nearby giggling and correcting me and telling it her own way. I would be showing them pictures of their mother from when she was their age. I never imagined that I would be describing to the world what my missing daughter was like, the pride that we felt sharing her accomplishments, the joy she brought to us, and the terrible pain we are in now. It isn’t easy not knowing how the story will end. So I will continue to take my little trips back in time to be with Natalee again and to remember how happy we once were. Although I had always cherished our memories, it is only now that I realize how very important they really are to me. Each moment with Natalee, each smile, each hug, each “I love you, Daddy” has been a blessing, and they help to sustain me during this agonizing journey. I can close my eyes and still hold on to my little girl, if only for a fleeting instant.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Would a mod please remove my post #912, and remove the quote box from #913. I really should learn to not try to post until I've had at least two cups of coffee.
Thanks in advance!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on June 21, 2009, 11:31:31 AM
Would a mod please remove my post #912, and remove the quote box from #913. I really should learn to not try to post until I've had at least two cups of coffee.
Thanks in advance!
I found another typo...please fix (line 7) "supposed" s/b "suppose we all do that"
TIA
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Today should be a day of great reflection for Kyle Kingman,John Silvetti,Louis Schaefer & Tim Trahan!
IT'S NEVER TO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT THING KYLE KINGMAN
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Quote from: billb on June 21, 2009, 12:54:38 AM
Quote from: billb on June 21, 2009, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: billb on June 21, 2009, 12:27:15 AM
So where do we go with Robin cuddling up with/defending aruba agenda...taking Dave along?
Tim Miller siding up with shafer/silvetti?
I also believe it has contributed to possibly delaying Justice for Natalee....but it is only my opinion and certainly not fact....
I do
know
believe
aruba agenda IS the driving force that has prevented Justice for Natalee......
I'll try again...
bad guys stay bad guys....that's expected.
Robin/Dave going along? Tim Miller going along?
Does it change anything at the end of the day? Delay quite possibly....
Robin/Dave....delays outcome....but probably doesn't change outcome when it is said and done.
Tim Miller? Seems to me he holds cards that COULD influence the outcome.......But I don't know all the hands playing in the game...If things are in the works that will get Justice for Natalee....Tim Miller's hand my be OBE (Overcome by events)....
I guess that leaves to......believing in patience......
I don't think it's so simple as good guys/bad guys. Tim Miller and the family have much more information than SM members and all other bloggers. Sometimes things are shades of gray. Where else is Tim going to get access to the equipment and services provided by Schaeffer and Silvetti? Tim is a gatherer of resources to conduct searches. If SM is truly a site to support the families of missing people, I think it's members need to stand behind the family and the people they have chosen to help them. (Unless, of course, law enforcement considers a family member to be a suspect). It would be terrible if the actions of searching into these peoples' backgrounds and companies caused Equusearch to lose valuable resources that could one day save the life of someone else's loved one.
Also regarding all the tracing of links between these companies: of course they all do business together and there are many links between them. They are all in the same industry! Of course their paths are constantly crossing. Now if suddenly you notice someone OUTSIDE of their industry showing up as a board member or owner of a company, THAT would be noteworthy.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Quote from: iris44 on June 21, 2009, 02:31:27 PM
Quote from: billb on June 21, 2009, 12:54:38 AM
Quote from: billb on June 21, 2009, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: billb on June 21, 2009, 12:27:15 AM
So where do we go with Robin cuddling up with/defending aruba agenda...taking Dave along?
Tim Miller siding up with shafer/silvetti?
I also believe it has contributed to possibly delaying Justice for Natalee....but it is only my opinion and certainly not fact....
I do
know
believe
aruba agenda IS the driving force that has prevented Justice for Natalee......
I'll try again...
bad guys stay bad guys....that's expected.
Robin/Dave going along? Tim Miller going along?
Does it change anything at the end of the day? Delay quite possibly....
Robin/Dave....delays outcome....but probably doesn't change outcome when it is said and done.
Tim Miller? Seems to me he holds cards that COULD influence the outcome.......But I don't know all the hands playing in the game...If things are in the works that will get Justice for Natalee....Tim Miller's hand my be OBE (Overcome by events)....
I guess that leaves to......believing in patience......
I don't think it's so simple as good guys/bad guys. Tim Miller and the family have much more information than SM members and all other bloggers. Sometimes things are shades of gray. Where else is Tim going to get access to the equipment and services provided by Schaeffer and Silvetti? Tim is a gatherer of resources to conduct searches.
If SM is truly a site to support the families of missing people, I think it's members need to stand behind the family and the people they have chosen to help them. (
Unless, of course, law enforcement considers a family member to be a suspect).
It would be terrible if the actions of searching into these peoples' backgrounds and companies caused Equusearch to lose valuable resources that could one day save the life of someone else's loved one.
Also regarding all the tracing of links between these companies: of course they all do business together and there are many links between them. They are all in the same industry! Of course their paths are constantly crossing. Now if suddenly you notice someone OUTSIDE of their industry showing up as a board member or owner of a company, THAT would be noteworthy.
You had to choose today to post this crap ehh Iris44!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Quote from: iris44 on June 21, 2009, 02:31:27 PM
Quote from: billb on June 21, 2009, 12:54:38 AM
Quote from: billb on June 21, 2009, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: billb on June 21, 2009, 12:27:15 AM
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I do
know
believe
aruba agenda IS the driving force that has prevented Justice for Natalee......
snip
I guess that leaves to......believing in patience......
I don't think it's so simple as good guys/bad guys. Tim Miller and the family have much more information than SM members and all other bloggers. Sometimes things are shades of gray. Where else is Tim going to get access to the equipment and services provided by Schaeffer and Silvetti? Tim is a gatherer of resources to conduct searches. If SM is truly a site to support the families of missing people, I think it's members need to stand behind the family and the people they have chosen to help them. (Unless, of course, law enforcement considers a family member to be a suspect).
It would be terrible if the actions of searching into these peoples' backgrounds and companies caused Equusearch to lose valuable resources that could one day save the life of someone else's loved one.
Also regarding all the tracing of links between these companies: of course they all do business together and there are many links between them. They are all in the same industry! Of course their paths are constantly crossing. Now if suddenly you notice someone OUTSIDE of their industry showing up as a board member or owner of a company, THAT would be noteworthy.
Everyone is welcome to their own opinion Iris44, but I don't agree.
You
really
think that the fact that some "Scared Monkeys" are researching information that is ON THE INTERNET FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE would be reason to deny "valuable resources" that might save a life to Tim Miller?
Seems ridiculous to me...that is IF they're donating their "valuable resources" for the right reasons in the first place!
Why would these people donating valuable resources even know or CARE what's going on here at Scared Monkeys? Why would they think that Tim Miller, or anyone besides the Admin of this site would have any control over that?
Natalee's family IS supported here. But if we have a question about
anything
in this case, we are allowed to ask it and explore it with each other. And we can also decide for ourselves what information we gather is interesting or noteworthy.
That's one of the things that makes us unique from other Natalee Holloway forums.
Plus we have a lot of different people, ideas, and opinions all working together toward the same goal.
TRUTH AND JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN HOLLOWAY!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 21, 2009, 09:56:43 AM
ARUBA - The Untold Story of Natalee Holloway and Corruption in Paradise
Dave Holloway:
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I watched as she received her high school diploma, and I took pictures of her at her graduation ceremony. I planned to be there when she graduated from college and then medical school. My pride would have enveloped us both. I had long imagined the day when I would see my Natalee in her beautiful white wedding grown. We would meet in the back of the church for her last moments as "daddy's little girl" and, as she encircled my arm with hers, I would lean down and whisper the words that all fathers must say to their daughters on that very special day, "I love you." I would walk her down the aisle and proudly offer her hand to her fiance, and I would return to my seat knowing that my girl had accomplished all that a father could desire. At that moment, it would be clear that the first tier of her life with me had come to an end and that the man she would now look to for approval and love would be her husband.
But she would always be my little Natalee ... always.
Thank you Janet!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
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=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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