Natalee Case Discussion #733 2/17 - 2/21/08

[ala_gunslinger]

I wonder if the MB students were finally able to idenify the older local guy seen talking to Natalee at the pool & casino.  And, Ed K....Identify the bartenders he was hanging out with at C&C....

IIRC
If it was Ed, he rode with a waiter that spoke Spanish.  Don't know anything about a bartender.

Nothing about Natalee and an older man...heard rumors of her chatting with "too young" beach bumbs...but not from a reliable source.

Might I suggest a link to your sources....it might be easier to clarify....as not just rumor...

I would never post a rumor...This info is from the MB student's interviews.
An older guy seen with Nastalee in the casino (30 minutes)
An older local guy seen with Natalee at the pool
Kissel says he made friend's with waiters/bartenders and drove with them to C&C...AS he sees Natalee leaving, he says to himself
Paraphrase: "I drove here in THE car, I guess it's okay she leaves in THE car"
It can't be Deepak's car he is refering to.

Actually, it can.

[Tamikosmom]

Does anyone know for sure what bar this is next to the H I

It is entirely possible that Boeti did see something that night on the beach.
It is where he hangs out, where all the "pimps" play.  Mickey Johns is reportedly a drug dealer on the beach.

Boeti Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXbUURh7GUE&mode=related&search=

Debra ... thank you for posting the link to that interview.

I have saved the transcript to that interview but ... I never realized how close Boeti was camped to the Holiday Inn ... how close he was camped to the outside entrance to Natalee's room ... how close he was camped to the rooms of other Holiday Inn guests.

Another reason not to go to Aruba ... drug addicts camped right out side your hotel room.

Janet

[klaasend]

O/T sortof

Posted at RU by All10suspects:

http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/story/1578641/?d_feature_story=1

Valentine's Day Search of Homes
From NC WANTED Staff

Posted: Jul. 11, 2007 2:31 a.m.
Updated: Feb. 18, 2008 9:29 p.m.

DETAILS IN THE ALLEGATIONS
NC WANTED confirmed that the Wake County Sheriff's Office along with the SBI served search warrants on Thursday, February 14 at the homes of Jason Young's mother, Pat Young, in Brevard, and also his sister, Heather McCracken, in Etowah.

Reports indicate Jason Young has been living with his sister, Heather McCracken since the murder of his wife, Michelle Young.

No warrants have been returned to the Wake County courthouse at this time, and sources indicated the warrants have been sealed.

The entire Young family has been tight-lipped about Michelle’s murder and Jason’s status as a suspect.

Michelle Young was found bludgeoned to death in her Raleigh home on November 3, 2006.

The case garnered national media attention, but no arrests have been made.

Jason Young was named a suspect on November 7, 2006 in a Non-Testimonial Identification Order signed by Judge Donald Stephens of Wake County.

The Wake County Sheriff's Office maintains that Jason Young has not been cooperative in the investigation, and will not speak with them about the murder of his wife, Michelle Young.

Soon after the murder in Raleigh, Jason Young packed up and moved to the mountains to live with his sister, Heather McCracken, and has avoided answering questions from authorities.

Heather McCracken's home and property were searched on February 14, 2008.

Jason Young's mother, Pat Young, told NC WANTED, "He is doing what he's been told to do, and that is all you need to know."

On Valentine's day, authorities also searched the home and property of Pat Young.


I put this here because the thread for Michelle Young has been closed.
Looks like Jason family is not helping out. Protecting their son at all costs. Sound familar?

[Observer]

Natalee met with a local man for 30 minutes not a older man.

[Hotshot]

Does anyone know for sure what bar this is next to the H I

It is entirely possible that Boeti did see something that night on the beach.
It is where he hangs out, where all the "pimps" play.  Mickey Johns is reportedly a drug dealer on the beach.

Boeti Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXbUURh7GUE&mode=related&search=

Its Moomba for sure!!!!!

[klaasend]

Natalee met with a local man for 30 minutes not a older man.

Thanks *******, that's how I remember the statement as well.  I believe the "older man" comment was made about the blackjack table and it references who we suspect was PVDS.

[Buckeye]

Thanks Klaas and *******.

The Ed quotes are a bit off, also, IMO.

[Buckeye]

Thanks Klaas and *******.

The Ed quotes are a bit off, also, IMO.

Found it:

O'REILLY: Now, did you see her get into a car with Van Der Sloot and these two other guys?

KISSEL: I did not see her getting in the car. I saw her leaving, looked like with Van Der Sloot. I didn't see her getting in the car. You couldn't really see the road from inside the bar, so that is what I saw.

O'REILLY: But nothing set off any alarm bells for you, Ed? You didn't -- you weren't concerned or anything like that?

KISSEL: No. I wasn't personally concerned about anything. From what I've heard, I heard people talk about him and he sounded like a nice guy. So I didn't think any big deal.

I personally had ridden in the car over there. I made friends with one of the waiters. I'm fluent in Spanish, and you know, I was friends with somebody. And so I was thinking, you know, I rode in a car with somebody, she rides in the car with somebody, no big deal. I didn't think about it.

June 16, 2005

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159764,00.html

[klaasend]

Thanks Klaas and *******.

The Ed quotes are a bit off, also, IMO.

Found it:

O'REILLY: Now, did you see her get into a car with Van Der Sloot and these two other guys?

KISSEL: I did not see her getting in the car. I saw her leaving, looked like with Van Der Sloot. I didn't see her getting in the car. You couldn't really see the road from inside the bar, so that is what I saw.

O'REILLY: But nothing set off any alarm bells for you, Ed? You didn't -- you weren't concerned or anything like that?

KISSEL: No. I wasn't personally concerned about anything. From what I've heard, I heard people talk about him and he sounded like a nice guy. So I didn't think any big deal.

I personally had ridden in the car over there. I made friends with one of the waiters. I'm fluent in Spanish, and you know, I was friends with somebody. And so I was thinking, you know, I rode in a car with somebody, she rides in the car with somebody, no big deal. I didn't think about it.

June 16, 2005

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159764,00.html

Buckeye - thank you!

[Tamikosmom]

Beth knew in September, 2005 that there had been a Natalee/Paulus connection on May 29, 2005 ... months prior to the revelation of the casino video that appears to show Natalee and Paulus conversing.

I suspect that Beth learned about this encounter when the MB students who were at Black Jack table that evening realized that the "older" man was Paulus when he was exposed by the Natalee Holloway related media.

Janet

++++++++++

Katherine (Madison) Whatley
FBI Statement
July 12, 2005

After swimming at the hotel on Sunday, WHATLEY and other classmates, including HOLLOWAY, ate dinner at a restaurant next to the hotel. After dinner they went to the casino at the hotel. A few classmates were gambling at a card table along with an "older man" and YURON VAN DER SLOOT. (Whatley 302)


Beth Twitty
Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
September 19, 2005

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9407728/

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: ..... I don‘t think there was ever a question that Joran and Paulus Van Der Sloot had been in that Excelsior Casino, and, particularly, on the night of the 29th where he and his father met Natalee.

[klaasend]

Thanks Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Thanks Janet

Your are welcome Klaas.

Well ... time for a game of 500 Rummy!

Good Night Monkeys.

Janet
8:40 PM

[klaasend]

Nite Janet

[BUCKSHOT]

are there picture of mark purcell jr and/or sr available?
unless blind, i did not see them in aruba who's who thread.

[Buckeye]

Ready to call it a night.

Did anyone see this, at RU, today:

dugo  PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:01 am         

Moszco .. also former lawyer of Eduardo Matthew..

We might hear a little more about Vocking King......hmmmm

[Observer]

Ready to call it a night.

Did anyone see this, at RU, today:

dugo  PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:01 am         

Moszco .. also former lawyer of Eduardo Matthew..

We might hear a little more about Vocking King......hmmmm

Thats very interesting! I guess we know now why she picked him!

Night!

[ala_gunslinger]

Natalee met with a local man for 30 minutes not a older man.

Depends on the point of reference.

[BUCKSHOT]

joran has given us the most details of his inconsistencies.

otherwise, the aruban police would carry out their pre-planned cover-up, and their mouthpieces (including prosecutors) would famously report to the media, "we can not comment on our ongoing investigation."

joran, you accidentally shot yourself in the foot this time, bud.

[klaasend]

Ready to call it a night.

Did anyone see this, at RU, today:

dugo  PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:01 am         

Moszco .. also former lawyer of Eduardo Matthew..

We might hear a little more about Vocking King......hmmmm

Thats very interesting! I guess we know now why she picked him!

Night!

Wow, very interresting!

[klaasend]

are there picture of mark purcell jr and/or sr available?
unless blind, i did not see them in aruba who's who thread.

Hopefully ******* will post a pic of Mark Jr. for you, mine isn't handy.  I think it may be posted in the Shango thread or the MIP6 thread.