Natalee Case Discussion #818 4/30/09 - 5/17/09

[bastibro]

I know the following transcript negates my theory but ... something is not right when it is considered that Skeeters' hard drive and the disputed segment of McGraw's tape cannot stand alone in this defamation lawsuit.

Janet

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 'The Abrams Report' - December 1, 2005

DAN ABRAMS, HOST:  Coming up, the Aruban government now claims that a crucial piece of videotape evidence in the Natalee Holloway investigation has been doctored and that one of the suspects did not say that he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  We have got all the versions of the tape ...

Transcript
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10294603/
 

Thats right.
ALE had it tested by Dutch NFI.

 

Are you sure about that?

And if so - which of the THREE versions did they have tested?

The original from Skeeters?

Or one of Aruba's TWO DOCTORED recordings?

They analyzed both the original and the Dr Phil tapes.

According the NFI = Dutch Forensic Institute the Dr Phil tapes were altered.

[Keepthefaith]

Me personally.I just want the 2poe's to have to come to an American courtroom and get "GRILLED",for hrs,in regards to what transpired....That would be a GodSend! 

We all would but in my openion ... it ain't gonna happen.

If the Kalpoes are put in a position of being required to testify under oath in regards to anything that would incriminate them or Aruba ... they will both just drop the lawsuit.  However ... considering their backers are unknown and ... the Kalpoes are adults without means ...  Phil McGraw's attorneys are going to receive zilch in a frivolous lawsuit claim.

If the defamation lawsuit is dropped ... the financial backers will pay the Kalpoes' attorney fees and other costs Deepak and Satish may have occurred.  The Kalpoes may receive an already negotiated settlement from the financial backers for their participation.

It is the financial backers of the defamation lawsuit who will reap any monies awarded through an anticipated negotiated settlement with Phil McGraw.

IMO

Janet

I do agree Janet..They won't go near an American courtroom!We could all get in the Banana Bus and drive down the PCH to the courthouse to watch the fireworks....Oh how nice it is to dream...

[jen3560]

I know the following transcript negates my theory but ... something is not right when it is considered that Skeeters' hard drive and the disputed segment of McGraw's tape cannot stand alone in this defamation lawsuit.

Janet

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 'The Abrams Report' - December 1, 2005

DAN ABRAMS, HOST:  Coming up, the Aruban government now claims that a crucial piece of videotape evidence in the Natalee Holloway investigation has been doctored and that one of the suspects did not say that he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  We have got all the versions of the tape ...

Transcript
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10294603/
 

Thats right.
ALE had it tested by Dutch NFI.

 

Are you sure about that?

And if so - which of the THREE versions did they have tested?

The original from Skeeters?

Or one of Aruba's TWO DOCTORED recordings?

They analyzed both the original and the Dr Phil tapes.

According the NFI = Dutch Forensic Institute the Dr Phil tapes were altered.

You might want to read a little more closely both that article that Janet posted a link to, and the posts I made about/from it.

It might clear up that misconception you have.

Oh - and no one has seen anything from the NFI.  Just Arlene spouting off about what their report supposedly said.

[jen3560]

I know the following transcript negates my theory but ... something is not right when it is considered that Skeeters' hard drive and the disputed segment of McGraw's tape cannot stand alone in this defamation lawsuit.

Janet

+++++++

 'The Abrams Report' - December 1, 2005

DAN ABRAMS, HOST:  Coming up, the Aruban government now claims that a crucial piece of videotape evidence in the Natalee Holloway investigation has been doctored and that one of the suspects did not say that he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  We have got all the versions of the tape ...

Transcript
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10294603/
 

Thats right.
ALE had it tested by Dutch NFI.

 

Are you sure about that?

And if so - which of the THREE versions did they have tested?

The original from Skeeters?

Or one of Aruba's TWO DOCTORED recordings?

They analyzed both the original and the Dr Phil tapes.

According the NFI = Dutch Forensic Institute the Dr Phil tapes were altered.

Oh - and you might also want to revisit the California court's recent determination that there was NO TAMPERING of Skeeter's original recording.

That ought to raise a few new questions about either the NFI's abilities, or the questionability of whether or not they ever did an analysis at all.

 

[bastibro]

I know the following transcript negates my theory but ... something is not right when it is considered that Skeeters' hard drive and the disputed segment of McGraw's tape cannot stand alone in this defamation lawsuit.

Janet

+++++++

 'The Abrams Report' - December 1, 2005

DAN ABRAMS, HOST:  Coming up, the Aruban government now claims that a crucial piece of videotape evidence in the Natalee Holloway investigation has been doctored and that one of the suspects did not say that he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  We have got all the versions of the tape ...

Transcript
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10294603/
 

Thats right.
ALE had it tested by Dutch NFI.

 

Are you sure about that?

And if so - which of the THREE versions did they have tested?

The original from Skeeters?

Or one of Aruba's TWO DOCTORED recordings?

They analyzed both the original and the Dr Phil tapes.

According the NFI = Dutch Forensic Institute the Dr Phil tapes were altered.

You might want to read a little more closely both that article that Janet posted a link to, and the posts I made about/from it.

It might clear up that misconception you have.

Oh - and no one has seen anything from the NFI.  Just Arlene spouting off about what their report supposedly said.

Janet always uses a lot of words
The more words you need to make something clear, the less you say.
I`m quite positive on this and I do not have that info from Arlene.
Kalpoe IMO clearly said "she didn`t" unfortunately.
I dont want to offent anyone and I stand with Beth and anyone pro Natalee in this case,
but in the first place I stand with the truth !

[Kermit]

roger
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 241

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Is our Skeeters recording fake?    Reply with quote
I received the recording directly from the Aruban Police Department.(snip)
Receiving this directly from the Aruban Police provided me assurance and confidence that it was exactly what they maintained it to be. Evidence from a prosecution view. Plus, unsubstantiated info:
http://scrux.com/natalee

[Kermit]

I stand with the truth !

Pfffff!

[klaasend]

Bastibro - it really doesn't matter what you think.  It does matter in a court of law that the JK2 initially told authorities that ALL THREE HAD SEX WITH HER.  You cannot dafame someone if they have already defamed themselves.

[Keepthefaith]

I stand with the truth !

Pfffff!

  Being so polite Kermit!

[jen3560]

I know the following transcript negates my theory but ... something is not right when it is considered that Skeeters' hard drive and the disputed segment of McGraw's tape cannot stand alone in this defamation lawsuit.

Janet

+++++++

 'The Abrams Report' - December 1, 2005

DAN ABRAMS, HOST:  Coming up, the Aruban government now claims that a crucial piece of videotape evidence in the Natalee Holloway investigation has been doctored and that one of the suspects did not say that he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  We have got all the versions of the tape ...

Transcript
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10294603/
 

Thats right.
ALE had it tested by Dutch NFI.

 

Are you sure about that?

And if so - which of the THREE versions did they have tested?

The original from Skeeters?

Or one of Aruba's TWO DOCTORED recordings?

They analyzed both the original and the Dr Phil tapes.

According the NFI = Dutch Forensic Institute the Dr Phil tapes were altered.

You might want to read a little more closely both that article that Janet posted a link to, and the posts I made about/from it.

It might clear up that misconception you have.

Oh - and no one has seen anything from the NFI.  Just Arlene spouting off about what their report supposedly said.

Janet always uses a lot of words
The more words you need to make something clear, the less you say.
I`m quite positive on this and I do not have that info from Arlene.
Kalpoe IMO clearly said "she didn`t" unfortunately.
I dont want to offent anyone and I stand with Beth and anyone pro Natalee in this case,
but in the first place I stand with the truth !

Newp - that lazy excuse doesn't cut it with me - nor does a "I know but I can't tell".

The facts as we know them to be now don't bear out what you're claiming.

Just read the page before this one in this thread.  It clearly shows who doctored what.

Here's a hint - it was ARUBA.

happy reading!

[klaasend]

roger
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 241

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Is our Skeeters recording fake?    Reply with quote
I received the recording directly from the Aruban Police Department.(snip)
Receiving this directly from the Aruban Police provided me assurance and confidence that it was exactly what they maintained it to be. Evidence from a prosecution view. Plus, unsubstantiated info:
http://scrux.com/natalee

Yes Kermit - Roger/Scrux is about as reliable as getting the truth from ALE or Renfro.

[jen3560]

roger
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 241

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Is our Skeeters recording fake?    Reply with quote
I received the recording directly from the Aruban Police Department.(snip)
Receiving this directly from the Aruban Police provided me assurance and confidence that it was exactly what they maintained it to be. Evidence from a prosecution view. Plus, unsubstantiated info:
http://scrux.com/natalee

Hiya kerm honey!

I had forgotten about Roger.

He clearly received one of the TWO DOCTORED Aruban versions.

I swear - Dan Abrams and his experts deserve medals for that show they did.

[Kermit]

Perhaps Dr. Phils attorney's would be interested to know that the Aruban LE gave a news paper photographer, Julia Renfro copies of the Skeeters tape and she gave them to a blogger; Evidence in a criminal case to post on his website!


Posted by Glenda at RU:
2. Anita suggested that perhaps Scrux could host it on the internet, the way Scrux had hosted the Skeeters recording.

10. Publishing Skeeters is another matter. The recordings were provided as possible evidence by Skeeters to the police and he said he had proper ownership. The police gave them to me. My publishing those recordings was the best thing that could have happened to Deepak, because they cleared his name (not slandered him).

[jen3560]

roger
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 241

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Is our Skeeters recording fake?    Reply with quote
I received the recording directly from the Aruban Police Department.(snip)
Receiving this directly from the Aruban Police provided me assurance and confidence that it was exactly what they maintained it to be. Evidence from a prosecution view. Plus, unsubstantiated info:
http://scrux.com/natalee

Yes Kermit - Roger/Scrux is about as reliable as getting the truth from ALE or Renfro.

Aren't they all just one and the same? 

Oh yeah - and toss medley in there, and you've got quite the credible bunch! 

"White Noise" is my new name for that whole group.

[Kermit]

roger
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 241

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Is our Skeeters recording fake?    Reply with quote
I received the recording directly from the Aruban Police Department.(snip)
Receiving this directly from the Aruban Police provided me assurance and confidence that it was exactly what they maintained it to be. Evidence from a prosecution view. Plus, unsubstantiated info:
http://scrux.com/natalee

Hiya kerm honey!

I had forgotten about Roger.

He clearly received one of the TWO DOCTORED Aruban versions.

I swear - Dan Abrams and his experts deserve medals for that show they did.

I'm glad you remembered this Dan Abrams show.
I watched the Dan Abrams show the night he aired those different tapes!

[Tamikosmom]

JANET

I got an email from Grandpa - he said to tell you hello.

 

Grandpa and I must have platonic bond that time cannot break.

Jen ... please tell Grandpa that his presence has been felt for some time now.

Thanks

Janet

 

[Kermit]

roger
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 241

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Is our Skeeters recording fake?    Reply with quote
I received the recording directly from the Aruban Police Department.(snip)
Receiving this directly from the Aruban Police provided me assurance and confidence that it was exactly what they maintained it to be. Evidence from a prosecution view. Plus, unsubstantiated info:
http://scrux.com/natalee

Yes Kermit - Roger/Scrux is about as reliable as getting the truth from ALE or Renfro.

Yes and I believe it shows conspiracy to obstruct justice by Renfro, Scrux and Aruba law enforcement.

[klaasend]

JOHAN IS A LIAR - Klaasend never said THIS was THE trap that was stolen.

[jen3560]

roger
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 241

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Is our Skeeters recording fake?    Reply with quote
I received the recording directly from the Aruban Police Department.(snip)
Receiving this directly from the Aruban Police provided me assurance and confidence that it was exactly what they maintained it to be. Evidence from a prosecution view. Plus, unsubstantiated info:
http://scrux.com/natalee

Hiya kerm honey!

I had forgotten about Roger.

He clearly received one of the TWO DOCTORED Aruban versions.

I swear - Dan Abrams and his experts deserve medals for that show they did.

I'm glad you remembered this Dan Abrams show.
I watched the Dan Abrams show the night he aired those different tapes!

Yup - I remember watching it too.  I will never forget Arlene freaking out over them all calling it "the Aruban version".

 

Especially considering what it was pointing out - that Aruba doctored the tape after they got it from Jamie.

Remember how her voice used to get higher and higher in pitch the more upset she would get? 

[bastibro]

I stand with the truth !

Pfffff!

Is that the American equivalent of Capslockwizard trying to tell me something?