Natalee Case Discussion #756 6/5 -6/8/08

[Rob]

ATA/AHATA hadn't changed her talking points, LOL! I didn't realize it until Klaas posted the original Rob, but she was posting alongside GABE LEO!

Gabe didn't get the new talking points yet either. 

this people just absolutely suck at the cover-up game. The trick of any good cover-up is not to allow anyone to know it exists. That's the whole idea. 

it then goes to a realm of nut-jobs and conspiracy theorists who just get laff'd at.

These idiots have cost themselves their entire economy.

[johan555]

Julia Renfro is Glenda. She mistakenly posted an email with the address to Aruba Today.

She originally took the name “Glenda” with an avatar of the Wizard of OZ, thinking she was “the good” witch. She wasn’t smart enough to know the name is Glenna.

She wrote the trash article regarding the medjet and The bad FBI. The article quoting Angela Munzenhofer and Dompig. It is still availble at the Aruban police website KPA.

ALSO - Julia Renfro posted with the nickname of BONDIA here at SM before she was banned and went to the Refugee's site using the nickname Glenda.

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Another Glenda Reaction : 

BhamMom wrote:
nichols,
Drag up a chair and tell us the truth. We’ve waited for 2-1/2 years.

The truth is that Beth is actually just a nice person, a good Mom, and a grieving Mom who comes from a hard working good family. She is also a good daughter, sister and friend. Perfect, not hardly, but certainly good. If she lived next door to you, she is someone you would like and enjoy.

Glenda posts:
Yeah right, that is why she tried to destroy the innocent lives of 120,000 people, mostly women and children… All for what? Because she took the decision to allow, send and sign consent for her minor child to go on a co-ed all-inclusive drinking fest with no supervision to an island in the Caribbean just 20 miles north of Venezuela. Sorry Nic, Aruba didn’t invite Natalee here to get drunk starting early in the morning, have a stranger lick her belly filled with alcohol and then for her to get into a car with him and two other strangers. ~ these are facts, I’ve left the other stuff out as hearsay, but the ABOVE is a fact.

Nobody deserves something bad to them, in the same time, Beth’s own words, “I didn’t deserve to have Natalee!” I dare you to say Beth didn’t say it!

She has the same style as Renee Gielen 

[caesu]

dutch minister of Transport was in Aruba yesterday and met with Edison Briesen.

http://www.verkeerenwaterstaat.nl/actueel/nieuws/ministereurlingsbezoektnederlandseantillenenaruba.aspx

Wednesday june 4th: Aruba
Minister Eurlings is holding talks about serveral issues with mister Briesen, minister of Transport and Tourism of Aruba. On the agenda are aviation safety, maritime affairs and the maritime cooperatin within The Kingdom

Eurlings left / Briesen middle / don't know who the guy on the right is, maybe M.E.P. Dierikx., director-general of the dutch Transport department - division Transport and Aiviation.

important issue was also the environment tax - this eco-tax comes into force july 1st.

the antilles and aruba want this eco-tax lifted.
but the netherlands is not going to give in.

http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/politiek/car20080527_ticket-tax

of course the antilles/aruba don't like this tax.
because that makes flights from Europe more expensive (for tourists).
already expensive due to high fuel prices.

[Dayhiker]

ATA/AHATA hadn't changed her talking points, LOL! I didn't realize it until Klaas posted the original Rob, but she was posting alongside GABE LEO!

Gabe didn't get the new talking points yet either. 

this people just absolutely suck at the cover-up game. The trick of any good cover-up is not to allow anyone to know it exists. That's the whole idea. 

it then goes to a realm of nut-jobs and conspiracy theorists who just get laff'd at.

These idiots have cost themselves their entire economy.

  They do suck at cover-ups, Rob, I suspect because their charade had always worked before. Those fools got sniffed out the first week and still kept at it, and you are exactly correct, it has cost them a fortune.

This airline crisis is payback. If they had done the right thing they'd have enough passengers to support the flights but they don't and they're getting axed.

[Dayhiker]

Julia Renfro is Glenda. She mistakenly posted an email with the address to Aruba Today.

She originally took the name “Glenda” with an avatar of the Wizard of OZ, thinking she was “the good” witch. She wasn’t smart enough to know the name is Glenna.

She wrote the trash article regarding the medjet and The bad FBI. The article quoting Angela Munzenhofer and Dompig. It is still availble at the Aruban police website KPA.

ALSO - Julia Renfro posted with the nickname of BONDIA here at SM before she was banned and went to the Refugee's site using the nickname Glenda.

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Another Glenda Reaction : 

BhamMom wrote:
nichols,
Drag up a chair and tell us the truth. We’ve waited for 2-1/2 years.

The truth is that Beth is actually just a nice person, a good Mom, and a grieving Mom who comes from a hard working good family. She is also a good daughter, sister and friend. Perfect, not hardly, but certainly good. If she lived next door to you, she is someone you would like and enjoy.

Glenda posts:
Yeah right, that is why she tried to destroy the innocent lives of 120,000 people, mostly women and children… All for what? Because she took the decision to allow, send and sign consent for her minor child to go on a co-ed all-inclusive drinking fest with no supervision to an island in the Caribbean just 20 miles north of Venezuela. Sorry Nic, Aruba didn’t invite Natalee here to get drunk starting early in the morning, have a stranger lick her belly filled with alcohol and then for her to get into a car with him and two other strangers. ~ these are facts, I’ve left the other stuff out as hearsay, but the ABOVE is a fact.

Nobody deserves something bad to them, in the same time, Beth’s own words, “I didn’t deserve to have Natalee!” I dare you to say Beth didn’t say it!

She has the same style as Renee Gielen 

Just another cog in the coverup Johan.

[Buckeye]

Julia Renfro is Glenda. She mistakenly posted an email with the address to Aruba Today.

She originally took the name “Glenda” with an avatar of the Wizard of OZ, thinking she was “the good” witch. She wasn’t smart enough to know the name is Glenna.

She wrote the trash article regarding the medjet and The bad FBI. The article quoting Angela Munzenhofer and Dompig. It is still availble at the Aruban police website KPA.

I bet that was sent to Hendrik Jan Korterink....just to keep him in the loop....

[dennisintn]

Well, all the airlines are in trouble right now.  I have to take the "cattle car" to Texas when I go and if I take American, they charge for the first bag so I have to wear a whole weeks worth of clothing on the plane!!!

lol, will you be strapping a steamer trunk across your shoulder as your purse?
dennisintn

[johan555]

180 OFFICIAL DELEGATIONS TO THE ANTILLES   

In 2007 departed there every two days an official delegation from The Hague to the Antilles. It is about 180 delegations from eleven different ministries.

Nobody in The Hague appeared to know from which ministry, at what time and why there has been crossed. It took more than three months before the Ministry of Interior Affairs and Kingdom a full list had collected.

All officials travelling business class to the Antilles, as it applies to all intercontinental flights. The delegations consist of at least one person and up to eight people. According to calculations of the cost of a trip NOVA least 5000 euros and a maximum of 42,000 euros.

The objectives of the travel is on the list specified, among other acquaintance, orientation, consultation with ministers, wetgevingsoverleg, bilateral cooperation and participation in various working groups on drugs, for example, finance and division.

The list includes only the travel of civil servants to the West Indies. Visits to the West Indies of local administrators and officials - just as delegations of Second MPs - not counted.

In addition to the 180 official delegations who in 2007 travelled to the West Indies, in the same year, there were also 181 Dutch for a year or longer stationed at one of the islands. These include judges, prosecutors, police and tax.

[sandy leiva]

Caesu...if you provide me with that Minister of tourisms' phone #...I will call him...and, tell him how to get some GREAT publicity for Aruba...and help bring the tourists back....Yep I will....

Destiny...

i read your earlier request. but i didn't think you were serious. 

but this is the phonenumber of the Tourism Department: from the USA: 011-297-588-0114
and this is his email: edisonbriesen@yahoo.com
this is the email of his secretary(?), Tamara Waldron: t.waldron@aruba.com

Thank You Caesu....one ringy dingy.....

I didn't know Tamara Waldron was his secretary. She posted the very first piece of government propaganda on 6-5-2005

I'm sure someone has it.

nice - one more mystery solved.

good job caesu

"...looking at the picture does not mean blaming the island or its people….we should keep looking at the big picture which does involve at looking at other possibilities, other than a crime, for the dissapearance of the 18 year old.
 
So far there has not been any indication of a murder, a kidnapping etc and we should all stick together and help in searching for his girl instead of assuming things and smearing Aruba on the news.
 
I do believe she will be found as there have been numerous sightings of Natalee, which indicate more that this is a runaway case than any other….of course we don’t know for sure, but we must leave the windows of numerous possibilities open."

Comment by Tamara Waldron | June 5, 2005, 7:13 pm

looking clearly and with eyes wide open you dont have to be a horses-petut to know that when "something bad happened" and blood was found but the tourist Natalee disapeared after being drugged and whisked away by the 3 perps  that a death has occured and every one on the island is covering it up. JMHO

[dennisintn]

Nobody deserves something bad to them, in the same time, Beth’s own words, “I didn’t deserve to have Natalee!” I dare you to say Beth didn’t say it!

She has the same style as Renee Gielen 


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and every bit as demented and full of bs.  neither could recognize the truth or actual facts if they slapped them in the face.
dennisintn

[Helen Back]

Julia Renfro is Glenda. She mistakenly posted an email with the address to Aruba Today.

She originally took the name “Glenda” with an avatar of the Wizard of OZ, thinking she was “the good” witch. She wasn’t smart enough to know the name is Glenna.

She wrote the trash article regarding the medjet and The bad FBI. The article quoting Angela Munzenhofer and Dompig. It is still availble at the Aruban police website KPA.

ALSO - Julia Renfro posted with the nickname of BONDIA here at SM before she was banned and went to the Refugee's site using the nickname Glenda.

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Another Glenda Reaction : 

BhamMom wrote:
nichols,
Drag up a chair and tell us the truth. We’ve waited for 2-1/2 years.

The truth is that Beth is actually just a nice person, a good Mom, and a grieving Mom who comes from a hard working good family. She is also a good daughter, sister and friend. Perfect, not hardly, but certainly good. If she lived next door to you, she is someone you would like and enjoy.

Glenda posts:
Yeah right, that is why she tried to destroy the innocent lives of 120,000 people, mostly women and children… All for what? Because she took the decision to allow, send and sign consent for her minor child to go on a co-ed all-inclusive drinking fest with no supervision to an island in the Caribbean just 20 miles north of Venezuela. Sorry Nic, Aruba didn’t invite Natalee here to get drunk starting early in the morning, have a stranger lick her belly filled with alcohol and then for her to get into a car with him and two other strangers. ~ these are facts, I’ve left the other stuff out as hearsay, but the ABOVE is a fact.

Nobody deserves something bad to them, in the same time, Beth’s own words, “I didn’t deserve to have Natalee!” I dare you to say Beth didn’t say it!

She has the same style as Renee Gielen 

She makes it sound downright dangerous!  Do they put that in their travel brochures?

"Come to Aruba, an island in the Caribbean JUST 20 MILES NORTH OF VENEZUELA!"

As if Beth should have known better than to allow Natalee's vacation..........BASED ON THE LOCATION OF THE ISLAND. 

Perhaps we should warn the rest of the world for Julia.

 

[dennisintn]

ATA/AHATA hadn't changed her talking points, LOL! I didn't realize it until Klaas posted the original Rob, but she was posting alongside GABE LEO!

Gabe didn't get the new talking points yet either. 

this people just absolutely suck at the cover-up game. The trick of any good cover-up is not to allow anyone to know it exists. That's the whole idea. 

it then goes to a realm of nut-jobs and conspiracy theorists who just get laff'd at.

These idiots have cost themselves their entire economy.

  They do suck at cover-ups, Rob, I suspect because their charade had always worked before. Those fools got sniffed out the first week and still kept at it, and you are exactly correct, it has cost them a fortune.

This airline crisis is payback. If they had done the right thing they'd have enough passengers to support the flights but they don't and they're getting axed.

they are not used to having to back up their lies and promises. they're used to lying and appeasing tourists who go home in a few days.  being held accountable for their words and actions is completely alienable to them.
dennisintn

[Buckeye]

Julie Renfro has been on the "Beth signed the waver for an all inclusive...drinking binge....." way before Maglio posted the parent is responsible.  She was the first to post a link to the article...hmmmm

What I say is...After visiting Paradise Island, in the Bahamas, and having to pay $4 for a can of pop.....I would have seriously considered an all inclusive, for my daughter, who would have only been there three days and was not interested in varying cuisines. I would prefer her to have unlimited access to pop. water, gatorade and food.  It would have been really hard to budget otherwise.  The prices are outrageous.

Just because Julia is a drinker does not mean that everyone that buys an all inclusive ticket plans to heavily drink booze.  I saw Natalee with water in front of her in the casino.  She was sitting fine on the stool and was steady walking around the casino.  If she got sick later it was from "something bad" that she was given...or perhaps...food poisoning...if you ask me.

[always 1]

Ha ha Dennisintn, the last time I flew my belt set off the metal detector and I had to endure the "perf Patdown" just think what that would do.  I would probablly have to go in the "take it alll off tent".

[johan555]

Julia Renfro is Glenda. She mistakenly posted an email with the address to Aruba Today.

She originally took the name “Glenda” with an avatar of the Wizard of OZ, thinking she was “the good” witch. She wasn’t smart enough to know the name is Glenna.

She wrote the trash article regarding the medjet and The bad FBI. The article quoting Angela Munzenhofer and Dompig. It is still availble at the Aruban police website KPA.

ALSO - Julia Renfro posted with the nickname of BONDIA here at SM before she was banned and went to the Refugee's site using the nickname Glenda.

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Another Glenda Reaction : 

BhamMom wrote:
nichols,
Drag up a chair and tell us the truth. We’ve waited for 2-1/2 years.

The truth is that Beth is actually just a nice person, a good Mom, and a grieving Mom who comes from a hard working good family. She is also a good daughter, sister and friend. Perfect, not hardly, but certainly good. If she lived next door to you, she is someone you would like and enjoy.

Glenda posts:
Yeah right, that is why she tried to destroy the innocent lives of 120,000 people, mostly women and children… All for what? Because she took the decision to allow, send and sign consent for her minor child to go on a co-ed all-inclusive drinking fest with no supervision to an island in the Caribbean just 20 miles north of Venezuela. Sorry Nic, Aruba didn’t invite Natalee here to get drunk starting early in the morning, have a stranger lick her belly filled with alcohol and then for her to get into a car with him and two other strangers. ~ these are facts, I’ve left the other stuff out as hearsay, but the ABOVE is a fact.

Nobody deserves something bad to them, in the same time, Beth’s own words, “I didn’t deserve to have Natalee!” I dare you to say Beth didn’t say it!

She has the same style as Renee Gielen 

Just another cog in the coverup Johan.

Sure dayhiker i think they have the same Boss 

Another  brainwash technique   

this is also one of them  :
The Natalee Holloway Conspiracy

Project smoke special 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NtzCPPN3bU&feature=related

[Tamikosmom]

Here is the full post from the front page of SM:

Tamara Waldron wrote:

THanks Gabriel! As an American citizen living in Aruba, and having lived in the U.S. for nearly 10 years I can assure you that most of us are looking at the big picture and we share the concerns of Natalee’s family and friends.
Howver, looking at the picture does not mean blaming the island or its people….we should keep looking at the big picture which does involve at looking at other possibilities, other than a crime, for the dissapearance of the 18 year old.
So far there has not been any indication of a murder, a kidnapping etc and we should all stick together and help in searching for his girl instead of assuming things and smearing Aruba on the news.
I do believe she will be found as there have been numerous sightings of Natalee, which indicate more that this is a runaway case than any other….of course we don’t know for sure, but we must leave the windows of numerous possibilities open.

Jun 5, 7:13 PM

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/07/natalee-holloway-information/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.msg85278;topicseen#msg85278

Ministry of Transportation AND TOURISM

The Strategic Communications Task Force is a working group established in Aruba to address the issues surrounding the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The Task Force includes representatives from AHATA (Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association), ATA (Aruba Tourism Authority), business and government leaders. The Task Force continues to support the Holloway/Twitty families and will continue to offer support in their search for Natalee Holloway

Steering Committee of the Strategic Communications Task Force:
 
Myrna Jansen, chairperson Aruba Tourism Authority
Serge Mansur, chairperson Aruba Trade & Industry Association
Jorge Pesquera, chairperson Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association
Edwin Roos Chamber of Commerce
Jaap Beaujon Advisor
Agustin Vrolijk Department of Foreign Affairs
Frits Israel Aruba Tourism Authority
Gina Lopez-Gnecco Aruba Tourism Authority
Rob Smith Aruba Hospitality & Security Foundation

Additional members

Greg Peterson Aruba Trade & Industry Association
Olindo Koolman Former Governor of Aruba
Alfonso Riverol Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association
Andy Osbourne Aruba Timeshare Association
Jan van Nes Aruba Timeshare Association
Bill Carson Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association
Erik Brete Liaison to the office of the Prime Minister
Henry Baarh Minister Plenipotentiary Washington
John Merryweather Former Government Official
Tamara Waldron Ministry of Tourism and Transportation
Ruben Trappenberg Aruba Airport Authority

Contributing participants

Helen Bautista Fitzgerald and Co.
Kelly Marshal Fitzgerald and Co.
Florence Quinn Quinn and Co.

What we do

The Strategic Communications Task Force’s goal is to stay abreast of all developments in the Natalee Holloway disappearance, verify if information given is truthful and bring forward the correct facts when necessary. The Task Force also aims to inform the public and media whenever there is information that can be shared and monitor media coverage both locally and internationally in an effort to prevent and minimize any damage to the economic well being of Aruba. The Task Force believes that it is very important to keep the community at large well informed of the latest developments.

http://www.aruba.com/nholloway/taskforce.htm

[Buckeye]

Let me get this straight...cruiselines have already cut back....now the planes...and the plan is to try and broadcast, in America, a piece trashing a young tourist and her family...after an islander confessed....and this will encourage tourism???

The only people they will attract, are ones that hate Americans, as much as those promoting this plan.  VanNie won't be selling a lot of fancy coffee.

[Buckeye]

johan

bamboo is Rob's buddy.....

[Lala'sMom]

Julia Renfro is Glenda. She mistakenly posted an email with the address to Aruba Today.

She originally took the name “Glenda” with an avatar of the Wizard of OZ, thinking she was “the good” witch. She wasn’t smart enough to know the name is Glenna.

She wrote the trash article regarding the medjet and The bad FBI. The article quoting Angela Munzenhofer and Dompig. It is still availble at the Aruban police website KPA.

ALSO - Julia Renfro posted with the nickname of BONDIA here at SM before she was banned and went to the Refugee's site using the nickname Glenda.

Oh the memories...I mean nightmares. 

[Lala'sMom]

Julia Renfro is Glenda. She mistakenly posted an email with the address to Aruba Today.

She originally took the name “Glenda” with an avatar of the Wizard of OZ, thinking she was “the good” witch. She wasn’t smart enough to know the name is Glenna.

She wrote the trash article regarding the medjet and The bad FBI. The article quoting Angela Munzenhofer and Dompig. It is still availble at the Aruban police website KPA.

ALSO - Julia Renfro posted with the nickname of BONDIA here at SM before she was banned and went to the Refugee's site using the nickname Glenda.

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Another Glenda Reaction : 

BhamMom wrote:
nichols,
Drag up a chair and tell us the truth. We’ve waited for 2-1/2 years.

The truth is that Beth is actually just a nice person, a good Mom, and a grieving Mom who comes from a hard working good family. She is also a good daughter, sister and friend. Perfect, not hardly, but certainly good. If she lived next door to you, she is someone you would like and enjoy.

Glenda posts:
Yeah right, that is why she tried to destroy the innocent lives of 120,000 people, mostly women and children… All for what? Because she took the decision to allow, send and sign consent for her minor child to go on a co-ed all-inclusive drinking fest with no supervision to an island in the Caribbean just 20 miles north of Venezuela. Sorry Nic, Aruba didn’t invite Natalee here to get drunk starting early in the morning, have a stranger lick her belly filled with alcohol and then for her to get into a car with him and two other strangers. ~ these are facts, I’ve left the other stuff out as hearsay, but the ABOVE is a fact.

Nobody deserves something bad to them, in the same time, Beth’s own words, “I didn’t deserve to have Natalee!” I dare you to say Beth didn’t say it!

She has the same style as Renee Gielen 

Yes, Glenda..they did...that is part of the promotion of the island...it's known all over facebook and myspace and various other places as the party place to be.  Remember the slogan...One Happy Island?  WTH do you think they are talking about?  No one could be happy on that place without being drunk at some point...oh, my...now I am getting iirritated all over again.