Lively Case Discussion #640 6/15 - 6/16/2007

[Lala'sMom]

First- that Van from Carpe's bucket and in an Arubay video was from the Tierra Del Sol Golf Course.

LaLas- Ed Smit said there was an FBI agent on the videos.. but who knows if that is true.

I'm not sure who else who have been identifiable in the early days.

But you told me it was someone we would recognize.  

[BTgirl]

Real Simian:
18. Name: Simian | E-mail | IP: xx
The Simian got friggin’ tired. I.e. the Simian never mentioned any Sumerians. What does that mean? By the way, in Caribbean slang the “Babylon” is the Police.
Posted Jun 30, 11:01 AM |


Many, many people ridiculed both Eleye and Colombo when they said this was the case...many.  It just had to be the Dutch...

Lala's - do you think Jossy could be Simian? It just doesn't sound like Jossy to me. We've all read quite a few things written by Jossy, and it doesn't sound the same to me. For instance - do you think Jossy has EVER used the word "friggin"?  

[Observer]

I guess MF just took everyone for a ride and I don't know what to make of Lazlo's posts.

It may have been a "game" MF was playing.  Don't forget, they have FOB2 to retreat to.  

Where is FOB 2 located?

In the Twilight Zone  

http://www.freedomofblog2.com/

So maybee those that are MIA are actually still creating there spin in private so it isnt traced back to them?

[Lala'sMom]

Real Simian:
18. Name: Simian | E-mail | IP: xx
The Simian got friggin’ tired. I.e. the Simian never mentioned any Sumerians. What does that mean? By the way, in Caribbean slang the “Babylon” is the Police.
Posted Jun 30, 11:01 AM |


Many, many people ridiculed both Eleye and Colombo when they said this was the case...many.  It just had to be the Dutch...

Lala's - do you think Jossy could be Simian? It just doesn't sound like Jossy to me. We've all read quite a few things written by Jossy, and it doesn't sound the same to me. For instance - do you think Jossy has EVER used the word "friggin"?  

No I do not...haven't been convinced yet.  I think it is a person very closely connected to ALE though.

[BTgirl]

Real Simian:
18. Name: Simian | E-mail | IP: xx
The Simian got friggin’ tired. I.e. the Simian never mentioned any Sumerians. What does that mean? By the way, in Caribbean slang the “Babylon” is the Police.
Posted Jun 30, 11:01 AM |


Many, many people ridiculed both Eleye and Colombo when they said this was the case...many.  It just had to be the Dutch...

Lala's - do you think Jossy could be Simian? It just doesn't sound like Jossy to me. We've all read quite a few things written by Jossy, and it doesn't sound the same to me. For instance - do you think Jossy has EVER used the word "friggin"?  

No I do not...haven't been convinced yet.  I think it is a person very closely connected to ALE though.

Yes, I agree. I wish we could figure out who.  

[igsigs]

I guess MF just took everyone for a ride and I don't know what to make of Lazlo's posts.

IMO, i think Lazlo did call some police information number in the NL and was told that the case was still open and that there is a new search. My question would be whether or not the person who answered the phone knew what they were talking about.

Wouldn't you think Lazlo had a connection at the police department? I can't imagine whichever police officer happened to answer the phone commenting to a stranger about an open investigation. It sounds more like something a personal contact would say.

Police Dept. connections would make sense, but i have no idea really. Lazlo developed contacts with DeVries and Joran's publisher and was able to squeeze info out of both of them. Maybe just a sweetalker? : )

[sb]

Someone ought to hack that private chat they have and see what they have been up to. If they are holding private discussions of criminal activity, they can't claim privilege.

[bleachedblack]

Real Simian:
18. Name: Simian | E-mail | IP: xx
The Simian got friggin’ tired. I.e. the Simian never mentioned any Sumerians. What does that mean? By the way, in Caribbean slang the “Babylon” is the Police.
Posted Jun 30, 11:01 AM |


Many, many people ridiculed both Eleye and Colombo when they said this was the case...many.  It just had to be the Dutch...

1.     Babylon     
   

Used to indicate a strong and powerful, yet corrupted and immoral place. A city in bible propecy. Some believe it may be the future fate of the United States. Prophecies:

(Revelation 14: A second Angel followed, calling out, "Ruined, ruined, Great Babylon ruined! She made all the nations drunk on the wine of her whoring!"

(Revelation 16:19) The Great City split three ways, the cities of the nations toppled to ruin. Great Babylon had to drink the wine of God's raging anger--God remembered to give her the cup!

(Revelation 17:5) A riddle-name was branded on her forehead: GREAT BABYLON, MOTHER OF WHORES AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

(Revelation 18:2) his voice thunderous: Ruined, ruined, Great Babylon, ruined! A ghost town for demons is all that's left! A garrison of carrion spirits, garrison of loathsome, carrion birds.

(Revelation 18:10) They'll keep their distance for fear they'll get burned, and they'll cry their lament: Doom, doom, the great city doomed! City of Babylon, strong city! In one hour it's over, your judgment come!

(Revelation 18:21) A strong Angel reached for a boulder--huge, like a millstone--and heaved it into the sea, saying, Heaved and sunk, the great city Babylon, sunk in the sea, not a sign of her ever again.

(Revelation 18:24) The only thing left of Babylon is blood-- the blood of saints and prophets, the murdered and the martyred.

"Oh, Babylon, the whole earth has drank the maddness in your wine. Now a day has come when you must pay for every crime."
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2. babylon    
   
   

The state, the system, particularly when corrupt or authoritarian. Also the police, as they are the agents of the threat of force that the state derives it's power from.

It symbolized a protest against the oppression from Babylon, which had made its use illegal.
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3.    babylon    
   

A term originating from Jamaica to describe the police

The babylon all over this place

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=babylon

[BTgirl]

I guess MF just took everyone for a ride and I don't know what to make of Lazlo's posts.

IMO, i think Lazlo did call some police information number in the NL and was told that the case was still open and that there is a new search. My question would be whether or not the person who answered the phone knew what they were talking about.

Wouldn't you think Lazlo had a connection at the police department? I can't imagine whichever police officer happened to answer the phone commenting to a stranger about an open investigation. It sounds more like something a personal contact would say.

Police Dept. connections would make sense, but i have no idea really. Lazlo developed contacts with DeVries and Joran's publisher and was able to squeeze info out of both of them. Maybe just a sweetalker? : )

I wish I could talk that sweet! Sometimes I can't even sweet talk hubby into feeding the dogs.  

[COLOMBO]

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 1:43 am
The Simian has a handicap of 12

what does 84 mean? an age?

[klaasend]

I guess MF just took everyone for a ride and I don't know what to make of Lazlo's posts.

It may have been a "game" MF was playing.  Don't forget, they have FOB2 to retreat to.  

Where is FOB 2 located?

In the Twilight Zone  

http://www.freedomofblog2.com/

So maybee those that are MIA are actually still creating there spin in private so it isnt traced back to them?

It was just opened about a week ago by Moonshadows so they could have a place to post without trolls.  I don't think JR Dutch Atty has returned or anything...I belileve FOB2 is all Moonie's.

[Rob]

BTW, all 3 vans are different. Look at the wheel wells.

That doesn't mean they aren't used for the same thing, though. I do feel that they are used to carry forensic/laboratory equipment.

SB- at first glance I thought the same thing. But in all honesty, we need to look at this a lil more to be sure. I'm not totally convinced they are all that different. I see some things that could be similar. Sorry fer the palpitations.

[BTgirl]

Someone ought to hack that private chat they have and see what they have been up to. If they are holding private discussions of criminal activity, they can't claim privilege.

Okay - who out there has a teenage boy in their house. That's what you need to hack another site.  

[Easywriter]

I guess MF just took everyone for a ride and I don't know what to make of Lazlo's posts.

IMO, i think Lazlo did call some police information number in the NL and was told that the case was still open and that there is a new search. My question would be whether or not the person who answered the phone knew what they were talking about.

Sounded to me like Lazlo called the person back and confirmed a couple times.

I hope that he/she is right!  I would like to see some action!!!!!!

[Lala'sMom]

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 1:43 am
The Simian has a handicap of 12

what does 84 mean? an age?

Darn it! Colombo, just come on in here and talk to us...you know I am terrible at this stuff...I need help.

[Rob]

First- that Van from Carpe's bucket and in an Arubay video was from the Tierra Del Sol Golf Course.

LaLas- Ed Smit said there was an FBI agent on the videos.. but who knows if that is true.

I'm not sure who else who have been identifiable in the early days.

But you told me it was someone we would recognize.  

can you re-fresh my memory? I don't ask often. LOL

[sb]

Rob, it wasn't YOU who made my heart skip beats. I knew you were kidding...    This place was WAY too slow for that- if Joran was re-arrested we would have had 2 threads in an hour's time!

Boy would I LIKE to know if there's any truth to the K2 thing. THAT may be the story of the day before it's all said & done.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

DANA

 LOL  Gumby..  I recall Gumby and Pokey..  I guess I am old.. lol

[sb]

Someone ought to hack that private chat they have and see what they have been up to. If they are holding private discussions of criminal activity, they can't claim privilege.

Okay - who out there has a teenage boy in their house. That's what you need to hack another site.  

Yeah, it kind of goes with the territory nowadays.  

Mind you I don't want us to do anything illegal, but it would be something else to know what they have been keeping so hush-hush the last couple of weeks.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 1:43 am
The Simian has a handicap of 12

what does 84 mean? an age?

Darn it! Colombo, just come on in here and talk to us...you know I am terrible at this stuff...I need help.

Yes, I was mulling Columbo's post....I was a terrible bowler, but they like dme for the handicap....golf, bowling????  Got lost in the math....