SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2

[hotping]

Was Viriginia the one who left the island early like on the 28th of May....Why did She leave early? 

[jackb]

either that or the poison note$ refer to credit..... JVDS is playing the next night at Wyndham

Also, remember the "who gave Mary the poison wine of Baccus?"  That spelling is very close to the Alabama senator's name who came to Aruba for some reason after this all happened.  I always thought that was curious.  Wonder if there is a connection from Alabama somewhere?  j/b

[MumInOhio]

Was Viriginia the one who left the island early like on the 28th of May....Why did She leave early? 

I am not sure when she left, but in the picture at the link Lala's posted she looks just like Nat does in the car video...

I thought that she graduated a year earlier and have wondered if maybe she was staying separately from the MB'ers, maybe at the Marriott.

there was something about the plane going down to pick her up. I need to go back and read it again.

[MumInOhio]

either that or the poison note$ refer to credit..... JVDS is playing the next night at Wyndham

Also, remember the "who gave Mary the poison wine of Baccus?"  That spelling is very close to the Alabama senator's name who came to Aruba for some reason after this all happened.  I always thought that was curious.  Wonder if there is a connection from Alabama somewhere?  j/b

If they knew it was a kidnapping and somehow knew it was the wrong girl...there would be a big Alabama connection...

[Lala'sMom]

VIRGINia=MARY

Yep, you're a Shangohead. LOL

[MumInOhio]

VIRGINia=MARY

Yep, you're a Shangohead. LOL

LOL...I take that as a compliment.

Chata...I reread all your posts...I really wish you would post more often! Should we follow that Star and the Days of St. John?

[Lala'sMom]

A few posts from Caps theories...some still hold...I think others have been discarded.  Interesting theory anyway about gambling debts and payoffs. A lot of info interwoven among the conversation. 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.1120

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.1140

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.1320

[Lala'sMom]

VIRGINia=MARY

Yep, you're a Shangohead. LOL

LOL...I take that as a compliment.

Chata...I reread all your posts...I really wish you would post more often! Should we follow that Star and the Days of St. John?

It was indeed...not that your are at Goddess status yet...but keep working on it. LMAO

[jackb]

Was Viriginia the one who left the island early like on the 28th of May....Why did She leave early? 

How about West Virginia connections?  Bird on a wire?  Old, old politician it was rumored from W. Virg.  high up, very high up and very popular in politics who was supposed to be into this sort of orgy type thing.  He still is active.
Maybe some connection there as well.  A sacrifice had to be made and if the right girl left, then someone had to replace her.  This is erie to say the least.
j/b

[Lala'sMom]

When did Deutekom (sp) retire?  Do we know? 

[MumInOhio]

When did Deutekom (sp) retire?  Do we know? 

Is this the one OM, that Caps mentioned yesterday? If so he said he was still there yesterday,IIRC. (Running all over...Caps posts, Chata's posts, Loesge posts, but will go back and check...LOL)

[MumInOhio]

Now here is my way of thinking or seeing this.

Prosecuter Duetekom is not on list list,

Maybe The singing man song is not on the list,

Duetekom good friend with Paules and King. they are the one that deal with the issue of Alex Mathew in KIA.

On the night in question, maybe the siging mausic man saw Deutekom, but could not point him out from the list.

The singing man song was not on the list.

CAPS.

Deutekom is the DirtyHand in OM , Why he is not on the List?. He was there in April 2005 till today.

Found it on page 9! We are posting up a storm...LOL

[jackb]

When did Deutekom (sp) retire?  Do we know? 

I am under the impression that he is still PUBLIC prosecutor.  He is relatively young, born in 1943.  There are different type prosecutors, but he is supposed to stand between Aruba (and other antilles) and the NL on decisions.  He supposed to be over the show.  Palus is 55, I think.  Some say 50, but I believe he is 55 by now.  This prosecutor is not all that much older than Palus.  j/b

[Lala'sMom]

We do have a bunch of smart monkeys....given recent info on the dutch owned apartments....




bleachedblack

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2007, 11:29:03 PM »
   

Amsterdam Manor is gold........maybe this was the golden maze. My feeling is there has to be a particular place, probably a hotel that tourists in general are taken when found passed out, drunk on the beach, or wherever until they can sleep it off. Maybe they brought Natalee to this place?

[Lala'sMom]

Note STom reply to me about Paulus whereabouts on said night...would like to know his source for this info...

Stom

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #214 on: August 09, 2007, 03:17:52 PM »
   
Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 09, 2007, 01:01:11 PM
The 5th suspect is Paulus van der Sloot.  That Paulus was the "boyfriend" from earlier in the week.  Eleye clearly thought this and argued this point with me many times. He had very good reasons for saying that and although I tried without success, he stuck with his assumptions. As of this moment, I can't say for sure what the deal is.  It was a revolting thought to me...that Natalee would have been interested in that older man.  I truly do not see that in any way possible, but I am only speculating also. So to each his own.  If there is someone that can prove it...I will believe it.

Lala'sMom,

Paulus was in Holland.  He arrived Sunday afternoon, before going to the Casino with Joran.  He couldn't have been the boyfriend from earlier in the week, if there was ever any.[/b]

[MumInOhio]

Question? 

Did they take the wrong girl?

[Lala'sMom]

Thought everyone would be interested in this too...


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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #257 on: August 13, 2007, 02:52:11 AM »
   
http://hcgtv.net/viewtopic.php?id=1110&p=12


#287 2005-06-21 4:52 pm
Siman Guest Re: Joran Van Der Sloot, house searchedFirst of all I see a lot of you discussing the suspects being charged, The system in Aruba doesn't work like that. When they decide to go to court than they will charge them. Not before.

In the Aruban/Dutch/European system it is believed that releasing information will interfere with the process of a trial.

When the charges are presented these will be released.


005-06-22 9:27 am
Siman
Guest Re: Joran Van Der Sloot, house searchedNobody knows what the Police have with regard to evidence. You cannot say that nothing has been found.

The first time a suspect is brought before a magistrate is to confirm that the process of arrest has been carried out accordingly. After that the suspect can be brought in again and evidence or testemony needs to be presented in which the magistrate may decide that it is reasonable to keep the suspect longer.

This can be repeated up to 116 days. This is done to protect the investigation.

There is one aspect that needs to be considered. Natalee H. is 18. Legal of age in Aruba. She cannot be found. She has no duty to let her whereabouts be known. There is no crime.

All that we know is that the boys lied about dropping her off at the Holiday Inn. The Police better have A LOT of evidence to hold them.




2005-06-21 4:56 pm
Siman
Guest Re: Joran Van Der Sloot, house searchedThe FBI is completely involved with this case and is helping the Aruban Police.

One thing everybody has to understand is jurisdiction. In trial it might be turn out to be a technicality if a Judge will consider interference from outside "forces".

That is why the FBI can suggest certain things. They help with the serach and offer all technical assistance. However, their involvement is limited by jusridiction.

On another note, Aruba is an autonomous member of the Dutch Kingdom. Not a protectorate.

[Lala'sMom]

When did Deutekom (sp) retire?  Do we know? 

Is this the one OM, that Caps mentioned yesterday? If so he said he was still there yesterday,IIRC. (Running all over...Caps posts, Chata's posts, Loesge posts, but will go back and check...LOL)

Then according to Shango he can't be Dirty Hand...he has to be leaving or retiring or something like that...gosh...my brain is mush today.  Oops!  I forgot...there are many dirty hands....I just want to know who is the main Dirty Hand. The one that makes teepees fall and the island to implode.LOL

[MumInOhio]

When did Deutekom (sp) retire?  Do we know? 

Is this the one OM, that Caps mentioned yesterday? If so he said he was still there yesterday,IIRC. (Running all over...Caps posts, Chata's posts, Loesge posts, but will go back and check...LOL)

Then according to Shango he can't be Dirty Hand...he has to be leaving or retiring or something like that...gosh...my brain is mush today.  Oops!  I forgot...there are many dirty hands....I just want to know who is the main Dirty Hand. The one that makes teepees fall and the island to implode.LOL

How did Rudy keep the Justice Minister's job? How could he bargain for his brother to have it if he didn't? Is he pulling the strings? His brother? Or is some-one pulling them for him?

[Lala'sMom]

When did Deutekom (sp) retire?  Do we know? 

Is this the one OM, that Caps mentioned yesterday? If so he said he was still there yesterday,IIRC. (Running all over...Caps posts, Chata's posts, Loesge posts, but will go back and check...LOL)

Then according to Shango he can't be Dirty Hand...he has to be leaving or retiring or something like that...gosh...my brain is mush today.  Oops!  I forgot...there are many dirty hands....I just want to know who is the main Dirty Hand. The one that makes teepees fall and the island to implode.LOL

How did Rudy keep the Justice Minister's job? How could he bargain for his brother to have it if he didn't? Is he pulling the strings? His brother? Or is some-one pulling them for him?

All of the above.  If we go with this guy as Dirty Hand...how does this make the teepees fall?  How does this fit into anything known about this case?  I am just thinking here, but welcome any random thoughts by anyone at this point.