SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2

[MumInOhio]

One more thought on Dirty Hand!…Van der Straten was taken of off the case for 5 or 6 day by Oduber. The Police Union got him back on. So some-one has more power than Oduber! Or has the goods on him, which would be the same, I thinK? Who?

[COLOMBO]

Who attends these high stakes gambling parties?  The type that you pay in human flesh rather than cash?  Hmmmmm.....

Goodship Lolliop-alive & well & living in Aruba?

[COLOMBO]

similarities?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4d9ce_mission-viejo-ca-woman-missing-on-s_news

[Chata]

VIRGINia=MARY

Yep, you're a Shangohead. LOL

LOL...I take that as a compliment.

Chata...I reread all your posts...I really wish you would post more often! Should we follow that Star and the Days of St. John?

I would post more often but I have dial-up and it is verrrrry slow.  Gets frustrating to post and find the subject has changed. 

I don't know what was meant by the star and St.John, but I don't think they were thrown in to fill space in a post.  CAPS may have some insight there. 

I do think there are some connections with the "movers and shakers" on the Island and maybe/probably in the US.  I tend to lean toward organized crime.

Of course, this is all just my opinion.

Chata

[Lala'sMom]

similarities?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4d9ce_mission-viejo-ca-woman-missing-on-s_news

Insurance fraud...intoxicated...alone...could have been picked up?   All speculation...just like this case.  I am wondering if she routinely walked to the casino that late at night?  The reporter indicated she was a regular at the casino...I don't suppose there has been any updates on this case at all.

[Lala'sMom]

Hi Chata...we can post slower if you need us to...please drop by more often.

[COLOMBO]

similarities?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4d9ce_mission-viejo-ca-woman-missing-on-s_news

Insurance fraud...intoxicated...alone...could have been picked up?   All speculation...just like this case.  I am wondering if she routinely walked to the casino that late at night?  The reporter indicated she was a regular at the casino...I don't suppose there has been any updates on this case at all.

she spent her nights at their tables

[Lala'sMom]

similarities?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4d9ce_mission-viejo-ca-woman-missing-on-s_news

Insurance fraud...intoxicated...alone...could have been picked up?   All speculation...just like this case.  I am wondering if she routinely walked to the casino that late at night?  The reporter indicated she was a regular at the casino...I don't suppose there has been any updates on this case at all.

she spent her nights at their tables

I agree..just wish we could connect all this together. 

[Lala'sMom]

One more thought on Dirty Hand!…Van der Straten was taken of off the case for 5 or 6 day by Oduber. The Police Union got him back on. So some-one has more power than Oduber! Or has the goods on him, which would be the same, I thinK? Who?

Going by your interpretation..Straten would not be the Dirty Hand we seek...even though Babalu opend the window...we may indeed be looking at others such as Kermit's Bernadina and Caps ....D....whatever his name is....I really need to learn that name. LOL

[COLOMBO]

One more thought on Dirty Hand!…Van der Straten was taken of off the case for 5 or 6 day by Oduber. The Police Union got him back on. So some-one has more power than Oduber! Or has the goods on him, which would be the same, I thinK? Who?

Going by your interpretation..Straten would not be the Dirty Hand we seek...even though Babalu opend the window...we may indeed be looking at others such as Kermit's Bernadina and Caps ....D....whatever his name is....I really need to learn that name. LOL

Can't remember exact words but I saw him give a interview on MSM to the effect that there was enormous pressure at that time - the threat of being fired was being held over everybody's head.....which one could expect if the scenario of loesge was true

I think that Babalu is here:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders

-either physically or virtually perhaps

[hotping]

Could Someone please correct this Key if any is not correct...I need something to go by for better understanding...TIA 

THE KEY:

Here's a list of what the code means, as interpreted by myself and other scaredmonkey bloggers; together we agreed enough to come up with this. This is all interpretation and speculation--these aren't necessarily my opinions; I'm just interpreting what I think Shango is saying. Others may see things differently, or dismiss this as a hoax. I think this is all too real.


*Mary=Natalee
*The Lamb=Joran
*Shivas=Kalpoe brothers
*Dirty Hand=police commissioner Van Der Straaten
*The Elder=Paulus Van Der Sloot
*His Lordship=unknown; maybe the Aruban Prime Minister
*Sumerians= maybe American government officials or Jossy Mansur, head of Diario
*Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba
*Arawaks=native Arubans
*Arawak King=Prime Minister, or possibly the boat with the same name from the mainland that frequents Aruba.
*Olorum=supreme being
*46th Spirit=a reference to Bifrons, a spirit with the swollen features of a rotting corpse; makes people around him aware of their own mortality. Not sure what the connection is hereÖ
*Teepees=dwelling of innocent people/carefree island culture was first suggested, but I think it really means the islandís businesses: casinos, hotels, etc. that would be hurt worst by a drop in tourism
*Roll=reference to doing the drug ecstasy; doing X is called ërollingí
*Keystone=Dirty Hand=the center of corruption, which will expose this crime and other corruption
*The Lions=the truly dangerous people involved in underworld; Nataleeís real killers (or those responsible for her death)
*The Maze=location of rave parties/ seedy underworld of the island
*Sacrifice=person or people who will take the fall if truth isn't exposed (The Lamb and shivas)
*Cowboys=Americans searching for Natalee; her family, EquuSearch, FBI, etc.

*Indians= arubans
*Loot=Natalee; some think this means hard evidence of any kind
*Wampum= money, income to Aruba; the economy
*Occam's Razor=medieval principle that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed
*Doppleganger=an invisible shadow-self possessed by every human
*Eden=truth

*cowboy gods=the real power in the U.S.: FBI, senators, et cetera

 

Note: Shango says three things frequently enough that I think it more efficient to provide one translation here to use afterward:

 

I must (go) feed the messengers

Either Shango has sources of his own he has to confer with (my guess), or he is leaking information to the media or elsewhere as well.

 

The gods are talking

Refers to ongoing communiquÈs between the Aruban government, the Netehrlands, the U.S., etc.

 

Light the fires!

The day of charges/trial/conviction are approaching.

 

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http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1190

 

[jackb]

VIRGINia=MARY

Yep, you're a Shangohead. LOL

LOL...I take that as a compliment.

Chata...I reread all your posts...I really wish you would post more often! Should we follow that Star and the Days of St. John?

I would post more often but I have dial-up and it is verrrrry slow.  Gets frustrating to post and find the subject has changed. 

I don't know what was meant by the star and St.John, but I don't think they were thrown in to fill space in a post.  CAPS may have some insight there. 

I do think there are some connections with the "movers and shakers" on the Island and maybe/probably in the US.  I tend to lean toward organized crime.

Of course, this is all just my opinion.

Chata

Get you a Win Cleaner One Click Clean software disk, they are not expensive,  and run it on One click when you go on I-net or just to clean up off line or every time you get on a blog and when you finish.  Also search and find Fire Fox browser and bring it down to use.  Get on with your regular home page and immediately close that out after you are connected and bring up your Fire Fox browzer.   Use that on your blogs.  It is much faster, even with dial up. It is faster than DSL for going to different pages.  You can run the One Click any time.    Jack b

[Chata]

I would post more often but I have dial-up and it is verrrrry slow.  Gets frustrating to post and find the subject has changed. 

I don't know what was meant by the star and St.John, but I don't think they were thrown in to fill space in a post.  CAPS may have some insight there. 

I do think there are some connections with the "movers and shakers" on the Island and maybe/probably in the US.  I tend to lean toward organized crime.

Of course, this is all just my opinion.

Chata
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Get you a Win Cleaner One Click Clean software disk, they are not expensive,  and run it on One click when you go on I-net or just to clean up off line or every time you get on a blog and when you finish.  Also search and find Fire Fox browser and bring it down to use.  Get on with your regular home page and immediately close that out after you are connected and bring up your Fire Fox browzer.   Use that on your blogs.  It is much faster, even with dial up. It is faster than DSL for going to different pages.  You can run the One Click any time.    Jack b
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Thank you for the info Jack ... I will save it until one of my children comes over and let them set it up for me.  I am not very computer savy when it comes to new software.  They are really after me to at least upgrade to DSL ... LOL.  Maybe I will one day.

Chata

[finngirl]

Could Someone please correct this Key if any is not correct...I need something to go by for better understanding...TIA 

THE KEY:

Here's a list of what the code means, as interpreted by myself and other scaredmonkey bloggers; together we agreed enough to come up with this. This is all interpretation and speculation--these aren't necessarily my opinions; I'm just interpreting what I think Shango is saying. Others may see things differently, or dismiss this as a hoax. I think this is all too real.

Doppleganger=an invisible shadow-self possessed by every human

always found the doppelganger reference most intriguing

both in terms of how doppel was recognized by other posters
and in wondering how literally the term may have been used

the codetalkers were esoterically literate, for sure

does anyone have a handle on the recognition factor?
was recognition triggered by something in post style?

did doppel make appearance to mis-direct?
did doppel contradict what sim was posting?
is that what was recognized?

cuz I've read/re-read and I don't pick up on anything

possibly some were familiar w/ the schedules of others,
that they could not possibly be posting at certain times
and therefore knew it was the doppel online?

most simple definition of deppelganger: alter ego:
another side of oneself; a second self;
an intimate friend or constant companion

A doppelgänger is the ghostly double of a living person, a sinister form of bilocation.

Bilocation is a term used to describe the ability/instance in which an individual or object is said to be, or appear to be, located in two distinct places at the same instant in time.

In the vernacular, "Doppelgänger" has come to refer to any double or look-alike of a person ... most commonly an "evil twin". The literal translation of the German word is "doublewalker", meaning someone who is acting (e.g. walking) the same way as another person.

The doppelgängers of folklore cast no shadow, and have no reflection in a mirror or in water. They are supposed to provide advice to the person they shadow, but this advice can be misleading or malicious. They can also, in rare instances, plant ideas in their victim's mind or appear before friends and relatives, causing confusion.

Some stories offer supernatural explanations for doubles. These doppelgängers are typically, but not always, evil in some way. The double will often impersonate the victim and go about ruining them, for instance through committing crimes or insulting the victim's friends.

[finngirl]

does anyone have a handle on the recognition factor?
was recognition triggered by something in post style?

did doppel make appearance to mis-direct?
did doppel contradict what sim was posting?
is that what was recognized?

cuz I've read/re-read and I don't pick up on anything

uh, never mind, a very smart monkey helped me

"I see" ... said blind/forgetful finn

:::slinks away:::

[finngirl]

found some stuff I saved from July 2005

did the poster's nic contain the word wizard ... ?
see sandraK's response below

some good elements here:
Mark Fuhrman's "a little truth in every lie"

WHERE IS NATALEE HOLLOWAY?

The original lie was that Natalee was dropped off at the Holiday Inn and approached by two security guards, a description of whom was given in enough detail that two such men were quickly identified and arrested. Her body was hidden where the original lie says it is, period: The high rise hotel strip area, near Marriott and Holiday Inn. The most harmless scenario for the three boys involved was to say that they quickly dispatched Natalee back to her hotel since it was observed that she may have been tipsy at the time she was seen driving off with them. Furthermore, it has been said that Natalee did return to her hotel room briefly to retrieve something and left again and so, in the event that someone may have seen Kalpoe's car in the vicinity of the Holiday Inn subsequent to leaving Carlos and Charlie's while she got something from her room, they had to cover for the car potentially being seen near the Holiday Inn. Therefore, the story was concocted BEFORE the hiding location near Holiday Inn or Mariott was chosen, and her body was placed where it was in order to support the original lie.

2001 Aruba trip report describing an "Old Hotel's" remnants near the Marriott & Holiday Inn: "we walked past Marriott to where an old hotel and old craft stalls once stood. This area also had windsurfing booths set up for young and old.. Pretty trashy, no luck but best area for finding many seashells."

The story-fabricators also selected two security guards known as regularly patrolling in the vicinity of said hiding place as the scapegoats. The body-hiding consultant being familiar with a hiding place close to Natalee's hotel, the Holiday Inn. In other words, the body-hiding consultant has been to this hiding place before, it was not a quick, random choice or created for the occasion. Ergo, her body will be found within the security guards' customary patrol area. (This does not mean that the body-hiding consultant has hidden other bodies but he may know of the existence of other bodies in the selected hiding place).

Why were the guards singled out and not "a stranger" or nobody? Why bring a potential perpetrator into the alibi at all? This tells you that Joran and the Kalpoes do know that something happened to Natalee and it tells you that they all concocted a story that might fly in the event that the hiding place in *THE GUARDS' CUSTOMARY PATROL AREA* is found with Natalee inside. It also tells you that Steve Croes was the one who suggested the body-hiding place close to where his boat is usually anchored. So Croes knows the Kalpoes better than he says since they brought him into it early on with the initial intention of using his boat and before fine-tuning the original alibi. Croes discouraged that idea, not wanting to participate, suggesting instead the guard story along with a good hiding place near Holiday Inn that he was familiar with, since this is his territory. He knows the security guards' patrol routine and could describe them in detail. Croes is the one that the guards need to be mad at. Why did these two, specific individuals come to mind when they were not even on duty that night instead of some random, fabricated individual? Because Croes had to duck those two guards in the past while visiting the hiding location for a different reason and therefore the guards were the first scapegoats to come to mind when fabricating a story about how Natalee will have come to be found in the location of the guards' customary nightly patrol.

The location of Natalee is further confirmed and identified by the second, (adjusted), story which is currently that the Kalpoe brothers dropped Natalee and Joran off alone on the beach near the Marriott. This is also a lie, since they did not allude to the fact that Natalee was now deceased when dropped off there with Joran. The adjustment in the story indicates that her location may be closest to the Marriott in particular. The body of Natalee Holloway was hidden on land in the Palm Beach area of the hotels. To frame the security guards, she could not be put out to sea and potentially disappear forever because the Kalpoe's car might have been observed waiting at the Holiday Inn while Natalee retrieved something from her room. The body was put in a place where it could be found. Her body was meant to be discovered, initially THE BODY WAS HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT. The intention of the original lie was to frame the guards and absolve Joran and two Kalpoes of being the last people to have Natalee in their possession, a better scenario all around since Croes did not want to involve himself or his boat. It is said that Paulus Van Der Sloot made the statement that there is "no case without a body", to the boys. This probably precipitated a call to Croes to use his boat.

WHAT HAPPENED TO NATALEE HOLLOWAY?
Joran and the Kalpoe brothers did not deliver Natalee to the beachfront high rise strip and leave. They only stopped by for Natalee to get something from her room and then they all left together. They may have driven around some and they may even have visited the lighthouse as stated but, ultimately the Kalpoe brothers dropped Natalee and Joran both off at the Van Der Sloot residence where Joran has his own apartment, separate from the main house. The currently held scenario is that Paulus Van Der Sloot had picked Joran up from a McDonalds around 11:00 p.m., took him home and then went about his business, assuming that Joran was home for the night. Did Joran or Paulus bring a "walnut salad" home from McDonalds? That was mentioned.

It is also currently held that Joran sneaked out off the property at some point and went to Carlos and Charlie's where he met back up with Natalee who was to return home the following morning.

The Van Der Sloot property has a pool and is gated. My contacts say that Natalee fell off a gate. They also describe a "Victorian Pool", which means that there may be a gazebo there or something Victorian about the surrounding area or the home. This pool, (or the gate) according to them, is supposed to be angular in some way. The angular comment could possibly apply to an angular object near the gate that she fell onto. It's difficult to tell the context of the angular remark. My contacts describe Natalee as "dopy" at the time she fell off the gate, so it is not to say that going to a boy's home in the middle of the night is something that she would ordinarily do. So the Kalpoe brothers dropped Joran and Natalee back at Joran's house and this gate may have been closed and locked. It could be that the gate was not locked, but simply that opening it would have made enough noise to alert Daddy Van Der Sloot to a returning Joran and his company. Natalee either fell off the Van Der Sloot gate sneaking onto the premises with Joran or she had to climb that gate a second time trying to run away from the property.

I think that she was trying to run away and I think that she may have been "taken advantage of", prior. In any case, she fell from the gate and was injured to an unknown degree. This is when Paulus Van Der Sloot becomes aware and involved and the Kalpoe brothers were called back to the residence to discuss the details of where their car, and Joran in particular, might have been seen with Natalee after Joran sneaked out and met up with her. This, because she was in bad shape or unconscious by the time Paulus Van Der Sloot, comes into play. I believe that the Kalpoe cell phone record of the first call from Joran is going to show that Kalpoe was called from the Van Der Sloot home to come there and help remove Natalee; not to pick up Joran from the Marriott area as they all now say. This would be why there was blood in the Kalpoe car. If they dropped off a deceased Natalee and Joran near the Marriott to meet the body-hider, they may have changed their story to Marriott beach to explain their car potentially being seen there. That's why the current lie reveals and refines Natalee's location as closer to the Marriott rather than the Holiday Inn. They are all still in cohoots but currently, the Kalpoes are trying to distance themselves from further involvement with Natalee once they dropped her and Joran at Van Der Sloots', since they were not at the scene when she died but they do have to cover for the first call received from Jorran, and they needed to cover for the potential of their car being seen at Marriott beach.

My contacts continually cite Paulus Van Der Sloot as the killer and they observe Natalee with tape or something over her mouth. Because of this, I suspect that it was Paulus who suggested application of the tape or a gag while she was unconscious lest she come to and start hollering, and she suffocated or otherwise succumbed to her injuries while Paulus and Joran were trying to figure out what to do about her. I have mention of her being in a garage at a certain point in this, but I don't know if Van Der Sloots have a garage. If so, that's where they had her. I do not think that her death was intentional and it could be that they would have taken her to the hospital, but I do think that a trip to the hospital was not immediately undertaken as they discussed what to do with the circumstances at hand. She was probably at death's door and possibly showing evidence of being "taken advantage of" by the son. The circumstances had the potential to create a career-derailing scandal for "The Judge" and she died as options were being weighed.

WHO HID NATALEE HOLLOWAY?
I don't think that Van Der Sloot, Sr. has ever had to dispose of a body before but he is in the position to know who would and could. He or Joran knew somebody on the Island in need of exchanging favors and my contacts are naming Lorenzo Van Rijn as that person. I don't know if they are related. Once the cover story was agreed upon between Van Der Sloot, Sr., Joran, the Kalpoes, Croes, and possibly some other confidants who were asked for advice. I believe that Lorenzo was called. He was asked to stash her and Natalee was taken by Joran with the returning Kalpoe(s) in Kalpoe's car to Lorenzo, to remove the rest of the party except Joran from culpability for the actual disposal of Natalee. They most likely wanted Kalpoe(s) to take her to Lorenzo alone but they declined to go without Joran and possibly be held liable for the incident. Kalpoe(s) then dropped Natalee and Joran off with Lorenzo and the Kalpoes went home. Joran advises Kalpoe that he will be in contact via the internet later as a means to avoid more cell phone contact. I believe the Kalpoe mother is aware that the boy(s) left the house again.

After Natalee was hidden, Joran most likely walked home as he currently states. All of their stories are going to have an element of truth in order to cover potentially having been seen. I don't think that Lorenzo would be stupid enough to be seen dropping Joran back at the crime scene and I'm sure that daddy was cowering on the premises in a state of shock while she was being disposed of; hence text message to Deepak from Joran that he got home okay; indicating that the hiding task was completed without incident.

#1. Guard 1 (freed)
#2. Guard 2, (freed)
#3. Kalpoe 1, driver, (detained)
#4. Kalpoe 2, story substantiator, (detained)
#5 Kalpoe Mama, complicit, (unsuspected) knows her boy(s) did not stay home and went back out that night 
#6 Van Der Sloot 1, Romeo, (detained)
#7 Van Der Sloot 2, technically the killer, (freed)
#8 Croes, body-hiding consultant, (freed)
#9 Van Rijn, body-hider, (unsuspected)

followed immediately, of course, by a comment from sandraK defending Steve Croes:

WIZ.. Cam was on SteveO...and the boat Dock area All Night.
He dumb as a Box O' Rocks.. but He not in this..
I'm Stickin" with my "Big 95" Theory ....

"Big 95 Theory" I think refers to the fact that Panty Boy works for radio station Big 95

followed immediately by another defense from sandraK:

Lorenzo's phone records cheaked..He Never met Joran or the Alpo Bros. in his Life..
This is wasting Time.. We need to look @ the SBF People.!!!

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Wick3DsBaby the mod posted this in LCD #21

Monday, July 25, 2005 6:13:43 PM

*This is coming from a 2nd source, I trust the 2nd source but it's not to say the first source is trustworthy, take it as you wish, I'm only relaying. No, the sources will not be identified, please do not ask. AGAIN, I'm not saying this is true, but it is for your speculative minds...

"Karin is setting him up. Says they are dirty. Not a cover but also blaming anybody they can to close the case. The judge allowed him to read her a statement in court before his release. Now she is really pissed. And gonna get him."

**From what I gather, the "he" is PVDS

***CORRECTION to previous post ~ The "he" is not PVDS, it's Deepak. Again, my source is reliable, that person's source may or may not be, as agreed by my source ... make sense?

[MumInOhio]

Good Morning!

Trying to track down Oduber’s movements and the dates van der Straten was off the case. Oderber was in Fort Lauderdale for I believe an Organization of American States summit.  He met with Condy rice on June 6th. Arrived back in Aruba the morning of June 9th. (I found the link to this eons ago and recall reading it, but not the dates!)

Van der Straten was on the case on June 5th and June 11th.
Questions…Who would be in charge with Oduber out of the country – 2nd. In charge? Is that who got rid of van der Straten? And who the heck is Hasell in the getegrip post??
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http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/05/natalee-holloway-update-sunday-june-5/#comments
          June 5th…FP…CNN
Chief Jan van Strantan said the two men are security guards at the Hotel Allegro near the Holiday Inn where Natalee Holloway was staying.

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June 6th…Florida…Oduber

http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/2007/07/aruba-accuses-us-government-of.html

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1015 - Van der Straten (head of investigation) on the air, he defends his police department. Info is false about confession. They’re investigating still. (Liela)
Posted June 11, 2005…Front Page
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-sat-june-11/#comments
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ZAANDAM, Eric  – current President of Police Union.
 
ZAANDAM, Stanley  - Ex-Commissioner Stanley Zaandam, "the body of Natalee Holloway may have already been found and CVP (Police Commissioner) looked the other way to do a favor for Paul Van der sloot. To exculpate the son of Paul, the CVP and fiscal Chief Prosecutor Karin Janssen made the false arrest of two ex-security guards, Jones and John, called this a "tactical maneuver" and denied them their freedom another 10 days."(Bon Dia, 9/19/2005)

Zaandam, Stanley J.
Korps Politie Aruba (K.P.A.) Quo Vadis? (Waarheen?) / Stanley J. Zaandam. -
Aruba : Consultancy & Editorship Stanella, 2000. - 272 p. ; 23 cm.
ISBN 99904-948-8-6

http://www.madurolibrary.org/html/library/books/antilliana/z.html

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From getagrip….Thank You!

9.19.2005
Ex-commissioner Stanley Zaandam in his new book KPA-Quo Vadis 2,3
To exculpate the son of Paul vd Sloot, the commissioner and fiscal falsely arrested two ex security guards
Police command nominations named as the reason of the mistake
Bon Dia Aruba
9/19/2005


ORANJESTAD – The police corps committed a blunder in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. According to ex-commissioner Stanley Zaandam, who dedicates attention to the case here and also in his upcoming publication.

According to Zaandam, the nominations - of among others Commissioners Bernardina, Dompig, Hassel and Richardson, along with 34 high-rank 1st class inspectors - which are against the law and hierarchy of the KPA [police corps], have serious consequences for the quality and integrity of work in KPA.

Accoding to Zaandam, none of the high-ranked commissioners has the qualifications nor experience to conduct a judicial investigation.

Police at the top of political list

According to Zaandam, Commissioner Dompig is under the instruction of Minister Rudy Croes, of MEP.
He also states that 20 other policemen were ranked high on a political list. Five others (…) among them Commissioner Hassell, according to Zaandam.

He also claims this is how Commissioner vd Straten was appointed to this case. However, according to Zaandam, this should not be work for a commissioner.

BLUNDER

Zaandam continues talking about the blunder under which the 3 youngsters were questioned, which should have been a simple case, but one that resulted in KPA’s biggest blunder, due to the deceiptfulness of JvdS, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, they remained free another 12 days.

FALSE ARREST

Zaandam keeps on saying in his book, two days after 5/29, the body of Natalee H. may have already been found and Cvp [police commissioner] looked the other way to do a favour for Paul vd Sloot (ex of chief staff of Cabinet PG [prosecutor general] J. Zwinkels). To exculpate the son of Paul, the CvP and fiscal chief prosecutor Karen Jansen made the false arrest of two ex-security guards, Jones and John , called this a ‘tactical maneuver’ , and denied them their freedom for another 10 days.

This, continues Zaandam in his book, is the issue here. However, he has much more to tell regarding the case of Natalee Holloway.

[translated by Getagrip]
Posted by Getagrip at 9/19/2005 12:18:00 PM   

[MumInOhio]

Caps...Is Martina in the Prosecuter's Office with van Deutekom?

TIA

[Blonde]

Last night I made myself watch this movie, it was terrible this group of sick people druged these kids  just to kill them anyway they wanted.
This took place in Europe.After watching half of this movie other thoughts were in my head about rave parties, Lions Den etc.
Just click on the link and you will get a feel of this terrible movie that may have some truth in it.

Psychological thriller Hostel, about three backpackers in Europe who become victims in a torture ring.

http://www.hostelfilm.com/

[MumInOhio]

We do have a bunch of smart monkeys....given recent info on the dutch owned apartments....




bleachedblack

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2007, 11:29:03 PM »
   

Amsterdam Manor is gold........maybe this was the golden maze. My feeling is there has to be a particular place, probably a hotel that tourists in general are taken when found passed out, drunk on the beach, or wherever until they can sleep it off. Maybe they brought Natalee to this place?

Lala's...are you leaning toward the Ansterdam Manor or just pointing out the Dutch ownership.

I recall the Apartments that Yap and Caps posted...Whitehouse and Montanja? Did both thes have a Star? Or was there another one as well?  TIA