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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #859 6/13 -
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Quote from: Anna on August 24, 2011, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Puzzler on August 19, 2011, 03:08:19 AM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/joran-van-der-sloot-free-by-xmas
The prime suspect in the NATALEE HOLLOWAY disappearance, JORAN VAN DER SLOOT may be freed from Peruvian prison by Christmas.
It never ends. And after Casey Anthony, this country is not doing so well in the justice department either. I am totally disillusioned now.
There's still hope for justice, Anna. Check this out--
http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/joran-van-der-sloot-unlikely-be-freed
Joran van der Sloot unlikely to be freed
Published on 18 August 2011 - 9:57pm
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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In Natalee's Room
Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway
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It's early morning, and the house is quiet. I'm still lying in bed, eyes closed. I don't want to open them, because when I do, I'll have to face the day I've dreaded the most for the past twenty months. Today I have to pack up Natalee's things for the last time. Today I will have to say the final good-bye. And I'm not ready.
Eyes still closed, I hear an occasional car pass in front of the house. Another one stops across the street, and I hear the car door open, letting music and cheerful muffled voices escape for a moment. Then close again. The stillness in the house is interrupted by the harmonious tapping of little paws as Macy the dog and Carl the cat move across the hardwood floors. Stopping for a moment. Then tapping again. The cold morning brings the sounds of life's activities as people step into another day of their routines.
Maybe if I don't open my eyes this day will just pass and I won't have to face what I have to do. The painful inevitable chore that has been looming over me since my beautiful daughter, Natalee disappeared on the last night of her senior high school trip to Aruba. The day has come to take her room apart and box it up. I have to go through her belongings, which have remained untouched since she left home on May 26, 2005. The movers will be here day after tomorrow.
Nothing of my life before Natalee disappeared in Aruba has remained intact. Not my career. Not my home. Not my marriage. My husband, Jug, and I are divorcing after six years. My son, Natalee's younger brother, Matt, and I are moving in two days. I have a lot to do.
I manage to swing my legs off the bed and sit up. Reluctantly, I open my eyes and sit on the edge for a few moments. I feel like concrete. Heavy. Very heavy. Finally I stand up and slowly walk a half dozen steps or so down the short hall and turn right at Natalee's bedroom doorway ...
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I'm glad I'm alone to recount the events that have brought me to this place on this morning, preparing to pack up and leave this house and Mountain Brook. Standing in the doorway of Natalee's room, I unwillingly step inside to the center of it, look around slowly, take it all in. In what feels like slow motion, I bend my knees until they touch the floor, rest my hands on the light cream-colored rug in front of me, and roll over onto my right side. Curling up in a fetal position, my head tucked down, arms crossing over my chest, I close my eyes again. And the cry I have fought off for almost two years finally comes. The final good-bye cry. And it comes hard. From somewhere deep, deep inside me. And it feels as if it will never stop. As if the pain can never be contained again.
NATIONAL MUSEUM OF CRIME & PUNISHMENT
Loving Natalee
http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Quote from: Kermit on August 21, 2011, 01:12:22 PM
Natalee
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on August 25, 2011, 08:46:37 PM
Quote from: Sharon/Tx on August 25, 2011, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on August 25, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: Sharon/Tx on August 25, 2011, 02:18:26 PM
Hiya Monkeys! I don't see tatoos either but if that is her, I wonder where that big black purse is now?
... and dress ... and platform shoes.
Janet
Exactly, Janet!
Where is her phone?
Did they follow her pings or wasn't it set up "for international calling?"
YES!!
When Robyn Gardner's communication with Richard Forester is considered ... it appears that there should be a cell phone with the international calling option.
Janet
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A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway
I Feel Such Regret
Page 31:
Clutching both portraits, Jug and I drive to the private hangar at the far side of the Birmingham airport. On the way I contact Cingular Wireless and have international calling activated on my cell. I activate Natalee's too. If she has hers with her, she can call me now.
If she had had international calling last night, she could have called someone for help. Why didn't we do this before she left? I feel such regret.
The Goal of Education
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The goal of education is twofold: to bring a message about personal safety to high-school and college students and to educate travellers.
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Websites:
Natalee Holloway Resouce Center
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx
Facebook:
Natalee Holloway Resource Center
http://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing
Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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August 25, 2011, 09:20:30 PM »
Posted on Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/astrid.winterdal?sk=wall
Tornado hits Aruba on the north side, causing damages to church school and a few homes. I thank God that no one got hurt, he must be watching over us! It is very scary, I sympathize with the families who were traumatized and all who endured damages to their homes. I hope they get assistance to rebuild their homes, as well as the church and schools. Thank god! also that there were no children at school when this took place.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1689407
Aruba: Intense winds damage schools, houses
Associated Press
2011-08-26 05:40 AM
Authorities in Aruba say severe winds from a passing thunderstorm badly damaged three schools and ripped the roofs off several homes in the southern Caribbean island's northwest. No injuries were reported.
Marck Oduber is a meteorologist with the Dutch island's weather service. He said the damaging winds at daybreak Thursday were from a downburst, or downdraft of wind and rain, during an intense thunderstorm moving from west to east. He ruled out a possible tornado.
Authorities said winds ripped aluminum roofs and shingles off about 10 homes in the district of Noord. Ceilings collapsed at three public schools just after dawn.
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August 25, 2011, 09:53:27 PM »
http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/august_26__2011
The Morning News
August 26, 2011 Front Page
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/august_26__2011
The Morning News
August 26, 2011 Page 8
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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August 25, 2011, 10:21:11 PM »
Texasmom, thank you for the article and pictures from Aruba. How frightening for the people in the area of the storm; thank goodness that that there were no deaths or injuries. Sending prayers to them.
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Quote from: grace-land on August 25, 2011, 10:21:11 PM
Texasmom, thank you for the article and pictures from Aruba. How frightening for the people in the area of the storm; thank goodness that that there were no deaths or injuries. Sending prayers to them.
YW grace-land, yes...thank goodness the storm blew through before the children were at school.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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or karma
http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83935
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When I read what happened to the statue...I thought the same.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.awe24.com/20110825/8286/A_logra_captura_2_hoben_cu_tabata_hortando_tas_y_mas_for_di_turista_na_Eagle
Papiamentu translation:
owing to succeed captura 2 young cu was hortando bag y more for of tourist at eagle beach
8 hora happen come across, 25 of august 2011 14:30
diahuebs nightfall owing to enter informe of cu one ciudadano owing to notice 2 young coriendo bay cu enough velocidad at leg huyendo for of eagle beach y cu 3 another person siguiendo they. at once the ciudadano owing to beat alarma y owing to avisa police of this while ela follow they till behind pizza hut sasaki where eynan they owing to throw one bag in one cura close cu hekki. after of this the hobennan owing to march bay bek direccion pabao just the hour ey police owing to arrive y owing to succeed capturanan y owing to detenenan. in they power police owing to hayanan cu some pertenencia procedente of ladronicia y after owing to succeed achieve the bag cu they owing to throw y sconde in the cura close.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.awe24.com/20110825/8288/Reportaje_especial_compila_pa_Angel_Coronel_d_e_desastre_cu_un_hoos_a_causa
Video of the storm damage from this morning
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.awe24.com/20110825/8284/Na_Alto_Vista_varios_daknan_di_zink_a_bula_bay_y_varios_panchi_a_kibra_of_los
More video and pictures of the storm damage
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Pictures of the damage of the Santa Anna Church...
http://www.awe24.com/20110825/8280/E_hoos_cu_a_azota_e_pueblo_di_Noord_por_wordo_considera_un_mensaje_directo_na_e
Papiamentu translation:
the hoos cu owing to azota the people of north can wordo considera one mensaje directo at the comunidad norteño
15 hora happen come across, 25 of august 2011 8:12
diahuebs morning early one hoos owing to azota the distrito of north y vecindario if analisa the susedido here can arrive at the conclusion cu here is deal of one mensaje directo for her parish of north. if see the desastre cu this owing to cause incluso the damage form cause at the catholic can conclui esey.
look at the imagennan y tell we what you is think.....
Spanish translation of one part...
the Conclusion cu here is deal of one direct message for her parish of north.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Karma continues to envelope Aruba.................................... I still think the collapse of the Natural Bridge was the most glaring example.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on August 23, 2011, 09:35:02 PM
JOY BEHAR SHOW
Aired August 18, 2011 - 22:00 ET
<snipped>
HILL: The Aruban authorities continue investigating.
Beth, when you look at the steps that had been taken. They`ve stopped him. I mean he went passed the Aruban -- sort of arm of law and they were able to bring him back in.
Do you get a sense that perhaps they`re doing a better job?
HOLLOWAY:
I do. I`m still guarded though and I do hope they prove me wrong and show me what Dutch law can really do with a perpetrator on their island. I am very encouraged so far. So I just want to -- just see how this proceeds
.
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/18/joy.01.html
Could it be that Aruban/Dutch justice will prevail for Robyn Gardner. After all ... considering Gary Giordano ... unlike Joran van der Sloot ... is not the son of an Aruban/Dutch elite ... an investigative cover up is not an issue.
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THE DOUBLE STANDARD
The Robyn Gardner Case
August 25, 2011 10:28 AM
Aruba officials release last known images of Md. woman Robyn Gardner
CBS/WJZ/AP) ORANJESTAD, Aruba - The Office of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba has released the last known images of Robyn Gardner, the 35-year-old Maryland woman reported missing on the island on Aug. 2, and her detained travel companion Gary Giordano.
According to CBS station WJZ, two pictures of Gardner's back were taken as she left a restaurant on the afternoon she went missing. In one photo, Giordano's back is also visible as they depart the Rum Reef Restaurant. Prosecutors also released a photo of a white Toyota Rav 4 that the two rented on the island.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20097155-504083.html
The Natalee Holloway Case
December 12, 2005
MY CONVERSATION WITH BETH HOLLOWAY-TWITTY
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MICHELLE: One of Joran's and PVDS's alibis was that Joran was picked up at the McDonald's. PVDS originally told you the first night you met him that he picked Joran up at 4:00 a.m., but he later gave a statement that he picked Joran up at 11:00 p.m. Do you know if there are security cameras in the McDonald's parking lot to prove this claim?
BETH:
On June 5, we asked officials to check to see if there were security cameras, and to this day, nothing has ever been done. No one has looked into it.
<snipped>
http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/2005/12/my-conversation-with-beth-holloway.html
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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http://www.awe24.com/20110825/8280/E_hoos_cu_a_azota_e_pueblo_di_Noord_por_wordo_considera_un_mensaje_directo_na_e
Sacred Heart of Jesus Statue
Someone stood it back up, I think the head may be laying behind it...
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
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=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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