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« Reply #440 on: March 05, 2011, 12:43:22 PM »


As a firm believer in consequences for one's actions, I am disappointed.
Perhaps there's something I don't understand.

It just doesn't seem right that JP could order Ashton to drop the motion and accept Baez' apology.  Is it possible JP might have suggested, for whatever reason?__________and Ashton complied?
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Does this look like Ashton is happy with what just went down?   This was forced to keep the trial on course, imo.



No, he was far from happy about it but it is evident there was quite a conference regarding it.   It may have been off the record to the public, but I do believe there was a record made of the meeting.

Yes, I do believe this was dealt with to keep the trial on course but if he does something like this again, I highly doubt he will escape with merely a forcing of an on the record embarrassing apology.   At this juncture, I agree with the approach Chief Justice Belvin Perry took at this time but if Bozo continues this behavior and makes additional inappropriate attacks again I wont agree if it is dealt with in this manner solely.   I get the impression that this was his last warning of this nature.
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« Reply #441 on: March 05, 2011, 01:01:06 PM »

Been riding the rafters late night for awhile, no time to post lately.  THANK YOU to everybody for the links, pics, and ongoing commentary! I really appreciate it!  Wow!  What a ride!  This is only the pre-game too.

The real "Dream Team" here is LDB, Jeff Ashton, and the State's Attorney's office.  The prosecution team was chosen by God for Caylee's sake and it's obvious every time they step up to bat. Baez, Mason, the Anthonys, Jeremy Lyons, and the rest of Casey's crew had better turn while they still have time.  Smackdowns from JP are going to look like a vacay compared to a second before God.  God is not mocked; whatever a man sows that will he also reap. He's got a particular soft spot for widows and children and He's very clear in His Word about defending them.

My take on George's testimony: Baez et al. are building their mitigating circumstances "defense" for the Penalty phase, based on what they will portray as George's obsession with Casey.  IMO, they'll use the molestation allegations, George's confessed willingness to do "anything immoral or illegal for Casey", George's desperate letters to Casey and his pleading to see her alone, George's affair with River, his "gambling" addiction, his anger management issues, his relationship with Cindy, etc. to throw him under the bus.  Also (IMO), they'll use Cindy's MySpace post, her letters to Casey, her testimony, and Casey's friends' testimonies to paint Cindy as obsessed with Caylee and insanely jealous of Casey.  All of which may be fine with Cindy because she's 100% vested in saving Casey to save face.  George, on the other hand, has difficulty with "saving Casey at all cost".  Hence, his choked , emotional admission that he would do anything immoral or illegal for Casey.  IMO, he teared up not because Casey means so much to him, but because he knew what agreeing to say this and saying it was going to cost him personally.  Not to trivialize this is any way, but if it was just a matter of molesting Casey (as opposed to murdering Caylee or aiding and abetting Caylee's murder), I don't think George would be going along for the ride.  The worst (public outing of info) is already over.  IMO, he's been badgered/guilted into thinking this is the only way to save Casey and himself and he owes it to her.

As far as Cindy goes, IMO Baez is setting her up for Penalty phase mitigating circumstances too.  He'll use her MySpace post, her letters to Casey, her media tours, her testimony, and Casey's friends' testimonies to paint her as obsessed with Caylee, using money and goods to manipulate/emotional abuse and physical violence to intimidate a young, poor single mother, and get her child.  He'll use the protestor confrontations and Cindy's jailhouse videos to document Cindy's explosive temper and aggressiveness. He'll tell the court Casey is a "product of her environment", compounded by years of psychological/emotional/physical/sexual abuse within the clannish family, and "acted out on learned behaviors".  It would not surprise me in the least!  It appears Cindy's competitive, narcissistic (IMO), proud, and confrontational nature will be fodder for the defense, as she goes under the bus as well. Notice today she did "better" on the stand and earned Casey's "approval" (a slight acknowledgement).  How pathetic!

Lee is interesting to say the least.  The most seemingly normal of the clan seems divided between defending the family, protecting Casey, and protecting himself. I suspect it's been a fence he's straddled most of his life.  It's clear from past interviews that Cindy relies on him emotionally to hold this volatile family together.  I say this without malice aforethought, IMO Lee likely has Asperger's (per his seeming fixation with Star Wars, inappropriate laughter and facial expressions, lack of appropriate familial boundaries, awkwardly unnatural/rigid? stance and gainliness, awkard manner of speaking in rhythm/tone/inflection, "Little Professor" attitude of superiority, seeming social awkwardness, seeming to prefer solitary situations like online gaming and parking cars, and his seeming unawareness of societal norms like dressing professionally for court and communicating with the defendant in the courtroom/laughing while holding an obviously distraught and crying Caylee in that disturbing pic/Lee's advertisements for an unpaid personal assistant slave at the beginning of this saga).  IMO, Casey intuitively recognized Lee's "weaknesses" and likely exploited them to the fullest extent. I'm slightly on the fence on the molestation allegations by Casey.  For someone who provides tons of details, her allegations noticeably lacked detail.  I'm inclined to say, "Didn't happen.".  However, I could see Lee in that socially awkward, not understanding normal boundaries way possibly attempting something.  I'm more inclined to believe Casey was the instigator though. These are strictly my opinions, not a diagnosis of any sort, merely based on observation/statement anaylsis/research.  Do I trust Lee? No.  Do I feel sorry for him somewhat?  Only to the extent I believe he may have Asperger's (diagnosed or undiagnosed) and was parented by two highly dysfunctional parents in an extremely dysfunctional and somewhat paranoid family unit.  They all have been keeping each other's secrets for a long time.  I think Lee became Casey's "keeper" long ago.  It's likely she, at some point, became his defender socially, solidifying their bond.  It's interesting how Cindy & George seem to treat Lee with kid gloves, having different expectations of him than of Casey.  For two peole who are proud of their professions (Nursing and former LE), they don't seem to have high expectations for Lee. All my opinion.

Sorry for the long post...I've been saving up!    Got to run-Life calls!  Take good care of yourselves, we're in this for the long haul for Caylee!

O/T:  Sorry I haven't been responding or posting much guys!  It's been wild around here, as you can see I'm still in Christmas attire. Dealing with lots of family extended issues/illnesses/increased work load for the last 3 months. 

ISpy~~Great to read your opinions, as always.  So well thought-out and enjoyable to read.   
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« Reply #442 on: March 05, 2011, 01:08:48 PM »

One parting comment, I am also disappointed in Baez' private smackdown by Judge Perry.  His very public obnoxious, rude, rebellious behavior, deserves a public correction session.  Not only as a deterrent to Mr. Baez, but also as to serve notice to any others thinking about "going over the hill".  It's called Respect For Authority and Baez doesn't have it and likely never will- if he hasn't learned it by his age. Ashton may or may not have been instructed to receive the apology (not that he needed the counsel, he's professional through and through). It's likely JP: read Baez the riot act in the presence of both the defense and prosecutions; informed Baez that he's used up his last chance; infomed both sides he will not tolerate any more personal attacks and stated this case will not be derailed or extended due to personal acrimony; warned that professional courtesy will be observed in his courtroom or their will be legal consequences; reminded Baez he's still subject to Bar inquiries; reminded Baez & Mason of civil lawyers looking for cause to sue them; and Baez would issue an immediate public apology to Ashton specifically.  Personally, I think JP has long tired of Baez throwing sand in Ashton's face, so to speak.  IMO, he didn't want to waste court time reprimanding him and thereby giving him attention (any attention to Baez= positive attention)...sort of like the class clown.  He was also severing Baez' ability to publicly whine "the Judge doesn't like me" or "they're trying to keep me down/they're picking on me because I'm Hispanic".  That's my take on it.  The proof of Baez' repentance will be in the pudding.  Let's see how long he goes before he personally attacks or twists the truth and blames LDB/Ashton/the state for his own incompetence or unwillingness to comply with court orders/motions.  We'll see.  JP is, once again, circumventing  any possible grounds for a mistrial.  I'm not worried, the State has their game on and Caylee will have the last word.  All MOO.

P.S. JP is not always going to do things the way I think they should be done.  However, his record,experience, and reputation speak for themselves.  Me, on the other hand, I've never been a judge.  LOL!

I agree;  It has always been my opinion that Baez thumbs his nose at the Court, authority, and the tradition of our legal procedures.  Leopards don't change their spots and I doubt it will be long before his flippancy returns again to be seen by all.  Perhaps he confuses rudeness with "lawyering", if so, he's in the wrong church and the wrong pew.  His disrespect is palpable and off-putting.  Why doesn't he wake up & smell the coffee??  Doesn't he value his reputation & law license at all?????
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« Reply #443 on: March 05, 2011, 01:23:18 PM »


I'm a bit confused as to why Baez asked Geo. if he would to anything "immoral or illegal to help Casey" - Is this to help or hinder George later on? hmnn.


I think it may be used to throw George under the bus. It was very strange questioning imo, and the State didn't object.  ???  There is definitely a reason behind that question.




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« Reply #444 on: March 05, 2011, 01:30:36 PM »

Tupelo,I thought the same thing when I saw that photo.Baez is not fooling anyone.
Ashton was not a happy camper.

It must have been galling for Ashton;  Baez appears so insincere, probably thinking he's pulled off a great feat.  It will be interesting to watch to see if his vanity/conceit will ultimately prove to be his undoing over time. 
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« Reply #445 on: March 05, 2011, 01:31:41 PM »

Now we know.  When Judge Perry issues orders, he doesn't really mean it especially if you're an Hispanic attorney with the first case of this magnitude that a Hispanic attorney has ever had in the whole history of the world and maybe Mars, too. I've come to the conculsion that being a judge is a whole lot like being a parent.  You should mean what you say and say what you mean.  And follow through.  A chubby little face saying, "I'm sowwy," shouldn't get him off the hook.  Baez has consistantly failed to meet deadlines, insulted the SA office and individuals on the SA team, accused Orlando LE of lying and setting Casey up, and instead of a little jail time, he says, "I'm sowwy," and that makes it all ok.  Well, not in my book.  I am so disappointed in the judge.  I thought Strickland was bad but now I wish for the good old days.

Perry's orders mean nothing.  And I think we'll see this repeated during the trial. Perry's forgiving Baez and, I suspect, ordering Ashton to accept his apology and  drop the motion for contempt charges portends more of the same, and it ain't good for Lady Justice. IMO.   
Babybear,
As a firm believer in consequences for one's actions, I am disappointed.
Perhaps there's something I don't understand.

It just doesn't seem right that JP could order Ashton to drop the motion and accept Baez' apology.  Is it possible JP might have suggested, for whatever reason?__________and Ashton complied?
________
 

I don't think he ordered him to drop the motion.
I think he strongly suggested that he do so, and only to keep the case moving along (snail's pace as it is).
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« Reply #446 on: March 05, 2011, 01:36:04 PM »

http://www.facebook.com/caseyupdates?sk=wall
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Just in from the court: case returns to court on Monday at 2p. Casey will be present. We'll stream it live.


Thanks, Trimm.

I like 2 PM. LOL

(Not a morning person.)

You should be good to go then.   
I second that motion I too like the afternoon time..most definitely not a morning person and so I play catch up with the court and on here all the time..rest assured tho I'm always here..just lurking since most of what I have to say has already been said by other..we have smart monkeys here!
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« Reply #447 on: March 05, 2011, 01:36:18 PM »

   Thank you to all for the photos, links, and incisive thoughts.  Always a pleasure!
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« Reply #448 on: March 05, 2011, 01:51:21 PM »

Hello Monkeys,
Just my luck I was busier than a one armed paperhanger this week and missed most of the hearing(s) being live-streamed. I did spend my evenings and nights watching the raw videos posted and catching up here at SM. Thanks for all the updates. you guys rock.

Something came up during the questioning that threw me back in time, to the age old un-answered question....WHO is Caylee's father? Well, I believe that may have come out in these court sessions, even though it was not made obvious. I hope by the end of skanky's trial, Caylee's parentage will be revealed, that her father is known, and I hope he sues the pants off skanky for either not informing him that he was a father and/ or taking Caylee's precious life, and his fatherhood from him. I wish I could recall which video, lawyer, or witness was on the stand (It may have been Lee and Bozo), but did anyone else hear mention of Mark Hawkins being wire tapped? First off, Mark is one of Casey's many ex-boyfriends, is an active duty Marine, stationed at Pendleton in CA, and someone she had reconnected with just prior to Caylee's death. There is no way, no how, that the Marine Corps would have given Mark Hawkins leave from his military responsibilities in order to return to Florida to be interviewed or wire tapped UNLESS, he is a next of kin....Next of kin (NOK). I have lived the military life even though I have never directly served. My father, brother, son and significant other have all served, some made a career out of the service and a NOK designation can only be applied to parents, siblings, spouse and children of....If Mark Hawkins was in Florida as a part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance and death and cooperated with LE to investigate certain involved parties, I would put money on it that Mark Hawkins IS Caylee Marie Anthony's father...Wasn't Mark also in attendance at Caylee's Memorial? I'll have to see if I can find that on line and suffer through the CMA all over again. Anybody else thinking along the same lines here, or is it just me that struck a nerve with? TIA
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« Reply #449 on: March 05, 2011, 01:54:43 PM »

Well..finally caught up on three days worth of laundry and dishes 

Titch asked about the syringe..I think that will be brought in by the State.

All the evidence gathered that Baez can not motion away will be brought in..and that includes friends depos, Casey's parents statements, Dom's statements, the duct tape, the diary, etc.

When you look at it all it is so sad and so needless.  I still agree with Casey's Grandma..It seems Casey hated Cindy more then she ever loved Caylee.

I think they need to include the Universal trip and statements because that goes to show that Casey was not looking for her daughter for 31 days because she was lying and not cooperating with LE at that point.  If infact someone had taken Caylee, and if she was afraid for her own and the family's safety..she would have breathed a sigh of relief for the help in locating her child.  She of course didn't and we all know why.  She wasn't protecting anyone but herself and this was purely a vendetta against her mother.  Caylee had outlived her usefulness to Casey..she would no longer be a pawn if her parents succeeded in gaining custody..and with what we now know of Casey's life they would have prevailed. 

Such a huge waste of a tiny soul who wanted nothing more then to live and play and sing and dance and love and be loved....no wonder she was so attached to George and Cindy.
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« Reply #450 on: March 05, 2011, 01:56:59 PM »

Hello Monkeys,
Just my luck I was busier than a one armed paperhanger this week and missed most of the hearing(s) being live-streamed. I did spend my evenings and nights watching the raw videos posted and catching up here at SM. Thanks for all the updates. you guys rock.

Something came up during the questioning that threw me back in time, to the age old un-answered question....WHO is Caylee's father? Well, I believe that may have come out in these court sessions, even though it was not made obvious. I hope by the end of skanky's trial, Caylee's parentage will be revealed, that her father is known, and I hope he sues the pants off skanky for either not informing him that he was a father and/ or taking Caylee's precious life, and his fatherhood from him. I wish I could recall which video, lawyer, or witness was on the stand (It may have been Lee and Bozo), but did anyone else hear mention of Mark Hawkins being wire tapped? First off, Mark is one of Casey's many ex-boyfriends, is an active duty Marine, stationed at Pendleton in CA, and someone she had reconnected with just prior to Caylee's death. There is no way, no how, that the Marine Corps would have given Mark Hawkins leave from his military responsibilities in order to return to Florida to be interviewed or wire tapped UNLESS, he is a next of kin....Next of kin (NOK). I have lived the military life even though I have never directly served. My father, brother, son and significant other have all served, some made a career out of the service and a NOK designation can only be applied to parents, siblings, spouse and children of....If Mark Hawkins was in Florida as a part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance and death and cooperated with LE to investigate certain involved parties, I would put money on it that Mark Hawkins IS Caylee Marie Anthony's father...Wasn't Mark also in attendance at Caylee's Memorial? I'll have to see if I can find that on line and suffer through the CMA all over again. Anybody else thinking along the same lines here, or is it just me that struck a nerve with? TIA

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« Reply #451 on: March 05, 2011, 01:59:33 PM »

Hello Monkeys,
Just my luck I was busier than a one armed paperhanger this week and missed most of the hearing(s) being live-streamed. I did spend my evenings and nights watching the raw videos posted and catching up here at SM. Thanks for all the updates. you guys rock.

Something came up during the questioning that threw me back in time, to the age old un-answered question....WHO is Caylee's father? Well, I believe that may have come out in these court sessions, even though it was not made obvious. I hope by the end of skanky's trial, Caylee's parentage will be revealed, that her father is known, and I hope he sues the pants off skanky for either not informing him that he was a father and/ or taking Caylee's precious life, and his fatherhood from him. I wish I could recall which video, lawyer, or witness was on the stand (It may have been Lee and Bozo), but did anyone else hear mention of Mark Hawkins being wire tapped? First off, Mark is one of Casey's many ex-boyfriends, is an active duty Marine, stationed at Pendleton in CA, and someone she had reconnected with just prior to Caylee's death. There is no way, no how, that the Marine Corps would have given Mark Hawkins leave from his military responsibilities in order to return to Florida to be interviewed or wire tapped UNLESS, he is a next of kin....Next of kin (NOK). I have lived the military life even though I have never directly served. My father, brother, son and significant other have all served, some made a career out of the service and a NOK designation can only be applied to parents, siblings, spouse and children of....If Mark Hawkins was in Florida as a part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance and death and cooperated with LE to investigate certain involved parties, I would put money on it that Mark Hawkins IS Caylee Marie Anthony's father...Wasn't Mark also in attendance at Caylee's Memorial? I'll have to see if I can find that on line and suffer through the CMA all over again. Anybody else thinking along the same lines here, or is it just me that struck a nerve with? TIA

I agree, Samarie:
   I've always thought that was the revelation Casey was going to make tho MH that he was Caylee's father.
Seems DNA may have proved it. We shall see.
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« Reply #452 on: March 05, 2011, 02:01:49 PM »

Hello Monkeys,
Just my luck I was busier than a one armed paperhanger this week and missed most of the hearing(s) being live-streamed. I did spend my evenings and nights watching the raw videos posted and catching up here at SM. Thanks for all the updates. you guys rock.

Something came up during the questioning that threw me back in time, to the age old un-answered question....WHO is Caylee's father? Well, I believe that may have come out in these court sessions, even though it was not made obvious. I hope by the end of skanky's trial, Caylee's parentage will be revealed, that her father is known, and I hope he sues the pants off skanky for either not informing him that he was a father and/ or taking Caylee's precious life, and his fatherhood from him. I wish I could recall which video, lawyer, or witness was on the stand (It may have been Lee and Bozo), but did anyone else hear mention of Mark Hawkins being wire tapped? First off, Mark is one of Casey's many ex-boyfriends, is an active duty Marine, stationed at Pendleton in CA, and someone she had reconnected with just prior to Caylee's death. There is no way, no how, that the Marine Corps would have given Mark Hawkins leave from his military responsibilities in order to return to Florida to be interviewed or wire tapped UNLESS, he is a next of kin....Next of kin (NOK). I have lived the military life even though I have never directly served. My father, brother, son and significant other have all served, some made a career out of the service and a NOK designation can only be applied to parents, siblings, spouse and children of....If Mark Hawkins was in Florida as a part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance and death and cooperated with LE to investigate certain involved parties, I would put money on it that Mark Hawkins IS Caylee Marie Anthony's father...Wasn't Mark also in attendance at Caylee's Memorial? I'll have to see if I can find that on line and suffer through the CMA all over again. Anybody else thinking along the same lines here, or is it just me that struck a nerve with? TIA

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Sorry..all I got out was your name and accidentally posted.

Just wanted to say I had the same thoughts as you about Mark Hawkins during that point in the hearing.

I hope that we do find out..or atleast LE knows who Caylee's Dad was..that person needs closure too.  And they could sue her in civil court I suppose..but having her do LWOP  or DP would probably suffice....though I think I would need to request being locked in a room with her alone for an hour so I could have may own personal discussion (retribution) with her.
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« Reply #453 on: March 05, 2011, 02:04:09 PM »

Hello Monkeys,
Just my luck I was busier than a one armed paperhanger this week and missed most of the hearing(s) being live-streamed. I did spend my evenings and nights watching the raw videos posted and catching up here at SM. Thanks for all the updates. you guys rock.

Something came up during the questioning that threw me back in time, to the age old un-answered question....WHO is Caylee's father? Well, I believe that may have come out in these court sessions, even though it was not made obvious. I hope by the end of skanky's trial, Caylee's parentage will be revealed, that her father is known, and I hope he sues the pants off skanky for either not informing him that he was a father and/ or taking Caylee's precious life, and his fatherhood from him. I wish I could recall which video, lawyer, or witness was on the stand (It may have been Lee and Bozo), but did anyone else hear mention of Mark Hawkins being wire tapped? First off, Mark is one of Casey's many ex-boyfriends, is an active duty Marine, stationed at Pendleton in CA, and someone she had reconnected with just prior to Caylee's death. There is no way, no how, that the Marine Corps would have given Mark Hawkins leave from his military responsibilities in order to return to Florida to be interviewed or wire tapped UNLESS, he is a next of kin....Next of kin (NOK). I have lived the military life even though I have never directly served. My father, brother, son and significant other have all served, some made a career out of the service and a NOK designation can only be applied to parents, siblings, spouse and children of....If Mark Hawkins was in Florida as a part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance and death and cooperated with LE to investigate certain involved parties, I would put money on it that Mark Hawkins IS Caylee Marie Anthony's father...Wasn't Mark also in attendance at Caylee's Memorial? I'll have to see if I can find that on line and suffer through the CMA all over again. Anybody else thinking along the same lines here, or is it just me that struck a nerve with? TIA

I agree, Samarie:
   I've always thought that was the revelation Casey was going to make tho MH that he was Caylee's father.
Seems DNA may have proved it. We shall see.
Me too Curly, too bad Cindy went off when she did. A few more weeks may have made all the difference in the world and Caylee might still be with us and in the arms of a loving father....well, she is, but you know what I mean....
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« Reply #454 on: March 05, 2011, 02:09:25 PM »

Hello Monkeys,
Just my luck I was busier than a one armed paperhanger this week and missed most of the hearing(s) being live-streamed. I did spend my evenings and nights watching the raw videos posted and catching up here at SM. Thanks for all the updates. you guys rock.

Something came up during the questioning that threw me back in time, to the age old un-answered question....WHO is Caylee's father? Well, I believe that may have come out in these court sessions, even though it was not made obvious. I hope by the end of skanky's trial, Caylee's parentage will be revealed, that her father is known, and I hope he sues the pants off skanky for either not informing him that he was a father and/ or taking Caylee's precious life, and his fatherhood from him. I wish I could recall which video, lawyer, or witness was on the stand (It may have been Lee and Bozo), but did anyone else hear mention of Mark Hawkins being wire tapped? First off, Mark is one of Casey's many ex-boyfriends, is an active duty Marine, stationed at Pendleton in CA, and someone she had reconnected with just prior to Caylee's death. There is no way, no how, that the Marine Corps would have given Mark Hawkins leave from his military responsibilities in order to return to Florida to be interviewed or wire tapped UNLESS, he is a next of kin....Next of kin (NOK). I have lived the military life even though I have never directly served. My father, brother, son and significant other have all served, some made a career out of the service and a NOK designation can only be applied to parents, siblings, spouse and children of....If Mark Hawkins was in Florida as a part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance and death and cooperated with LE to investigate certain involved parties, I would put money on it that Mark Hawkins IS Caylee Marie Anthony's father...Wasn't Mark also in attendance at Caylee's Memorial? I'll have to see if I can find that on line and suffer through the CMA all over again. Anybody else thinking along the same lines here, or is it just me that struck a nerve with? TIA

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Sorry..all I got out was your name and accidentally posted.

Just wanted to say I had the same thoughts as you about Mark Hawkins during that point in the hearing.

I hope that we do find out..or atleast LE knows who Caylee's Dad was..that person needs closure too.  And they could sue her in civil court I suppose..but having her do LWOP  or DP would probably suffice....though I think I would need to request being locked in a room with her alone for an hour so I could have may own personal discussion (retribution) with her.

Glad I'm not alone in my thoughts. I also find it curious that none of the information provided by Mark, interviews, depos, or the wire tapping, first time I even heard anything about him being an "agent of the state" since this all began has been released through discovery.....SA's office must be savings this info for the trial, another, ummmm
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« Reply #455 on: March 05, 2011, 02:12:27 PM »

Can anyone remember when it was that Amy woke up, missing a couple of hundred $$$, Casey had spent the night..and Amy was wearing different clothes then she fell asleep in?  Was that prior to June 15th?   
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« Reply #456 on: March 05, 2011, 02:15:45 PM »

Okay..another question..wouldn't the military already have had Mark Hawkins DNA on file? 

Would the FBI have access to the military DNA files?
Just thinking that might help in cross references in other cases as well.

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« Reply #457 on: March 05, 2011, 02:47:29 PM »

Okay..another question..wouldn't the military already have had Mark Hawkins DNA on file? 

Would the FBI have access to the military DNA files?
Just thinking that might help in cross references in other cases as well.


YES! The military would have a DNA profile on Mark Hawkins. That doesn't mean it's easily accessed by any other government departments or agencies. Even the FBI would need to jump some hoops to get Mark's DNA profile for purposes such as establishing paternity. Permission would have to be through many military channels and released personally by Mark. It's possible parentage was established, and therefore Mark was granted hardship leave.
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« Reply #458 on: March 05, 2011, 02:49:19 PM »


As a firm believer in consequences for one's actions, I am disappointed.
Perhaps there's something I don't understand.

It just doesn't seem right that JP could order Ashton to drop the motion and accept Baez' apology.  Is it possible JP might have suggested, for whatever reason?__________and Ashton complied?
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Does this look like Ashton is happy with what just went down?   This was forced to keep the trial on course, imo.



I am not a body language expert but I could not help but notice the entire time bozo was doing his apology act that Ashton was sitting in his chair with his arms crossed tightly which is an indicator of not being receptive to the one who is speaking.

I saw linda doing a few facial calasthenics myself.  They were not happy.  I just cannot see why JBP would want the state to drop the motion.  It would take him a second to rule on.  Unless, he didn't want to go against either side on it.  Who knows.
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« Reply #459 on: March 05, 2011, 02:53:37 PM »


As a firm believer in consequences for one's actions, I am disappointed.
Perhaps there's something I don't understand.

It just doesn't seem right that JP could order Ashton to drop the motion and accept Baez' apology.  Is it possible JP might have suggested, for whatever reason?__________and Ashton complied?
________
 

Does this look like Ashton is happy with what just went down?   This was forced to keep the trial on course, imo.



I am not a body language expert but I could not help but notice the entire time bozo was doing his apology act that Ashton was sitting in his chair with his arms crossed tightly which is an indicator of not being receptive to the one who is speaking.

I saw linda doing a few facial calasthenics myself.  They were not happy.  I just cannot see why JBP would want the state to drop the motion.  It would take him a second to rule on.  Unless, he didn't want to go against either side on it.  Who knows.

I think the contempt was dropped so that the trial could proceed on scedule and the duhfense would not be able to use "bias" against Baez for an appeal. JMHO
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