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broke the heliopause

good evening monks and monkettes.

Hey Rob!

Made it!  My bum hurts from that landing..I can never nail it.

Good Evening, Mr Rob.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Numbergirl

Yippee I made it. ::MonkeyLaugh::

I hope you saw my birthday greetings, wreck.

We got booted out right after I posted them.

I am so sorry.  I know how upset you were about the way the search was handled.  Perhaps they did check the area, but maybe they just didn't share their findings with you.

Hi Rob, I have been thinking about one of your posts still.  There are several cases that I have watched on 48 hours, etc - which the murder suspect does get bond.  Do you if it is just Florida that won't allow a bond?

I'm going to ask my question again:

Now that the DA must release all their discovery to the Defense team -- do you think they will release the identity of the father via their DNA tests?? (I understand ALL info given to the Defense is ALSO public domain)

I feel better just having sent the email ... it really took a load off my mind .... I did "sell someone out" though in it ...  ::MonkeyEek::  Oh well ... accountability and responsibility ... I said it ... yep I did!  LOL

For those that want to listen to Nancy Grace but won't be able to at home or you don't have an access for TV, I am going to be streaming it in here again. This is all you do:

1.  To enter(all you do is click on 'Chat') the chatroom you go here: http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.search&q=WillenFan21

2. When you enter the chatroom on the left hand corner there is a list with all of the usernames of the people that are in the chatroom. You will see my username which is "WillenFan21"

3. All you do after that is you click on my username and the "A" and then you will be to hear my TV.

The only thing is you WILL NOT be able to see it live but you will be able to hear it live.  :)

I am not sure, but I would think we would get only the information in regards to the evidence that pertains to the case and trial. 
You are talking about messing with an innocent individuals life here.  I am sure there might be some people out there who look down on him right now.  I think that piece of info would be withheld.
For a more definant answer, I think Rob could answer it correctly as the above is just my opinion.

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The Orlando Sentinel has added another false rumor to its long list of
false rumors and inaccurate information?
Baez you should be able to identify false rumors and inaccurate information, since that is all you have heard from Casey, kinda like the rumor that Caylee is with the nanny Zanny, or that she works at Universal Studios!

Wholely?
Is that a backwards way of saying completely or is it like Casey’s stories, holey?

And it is from an entirely different individual…
Like who? Charlie Manson, Dennis Rader, Joran Van Der Sloot or some other deranged killer?

Blatantly irresponsible?
Sort of like not reporting your child missing?

Misleading the public for the sole purpose of making headlines…
Like your announcement that you have investigators who are out of state getting a photo of the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez and Caylee?

Casey Anthony and family members have maintained that Caylee is alive,
Yep ever since they figured out she may get a needle in her arm, before that the car was filled with the smell of death. Or was it Pizza?

An out of state group to collect tens-of-thousands of dollars in a nationwide fundraising campaign, without a single accounting on where that money is going?
     I believe that you are referring to Texas Equusearch. Who is a charitable organization, and has been granted 501(c)(3) status. Not that you would know what that means, but it does require the organization to do certain recordkeeping.
     Section 501(c)(3) organizations are required to keep books and records detailing all activities, both financial and non financial. Financial information, particularly information on its sources o support (contributions, grants, sponsorships, and other sources of revenue) is crucial to determining an organization’s private foundation status.
Section 501(c)(3) organizations must make their application (Form 1023) and the three most recent annual returns (Form 990 or Form 990-EZ) available to the public, upon request and without charge (except for a reasonable charge for copying. The IRS also makes these documents available for public inspection and copying.  So I would suggest if you have any questions regarding the income and expenses that you request this information and then you might have a clue where the money is going!!!

               Anything else you would like to add Mr. Baez?  ::MonkeyCool:: I didn't think so.

http://www.girlsgab.com/2008/10/casey-anthony-rented-movie-about-murder-on-day-caylee-may-have-died/

didn't know if you guys had seen this or not.

Good post - this needs to be faxed to Baez!!

Next week, MURT is going to be interviewing someone close to the case.  I've created a thread so that if you have any questions you can post them there.  No, I don't know who this person is  ::MonkeyWink::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3885.0

Fifty Wreck????  50................................fifty years old........fifty years on earth........50 years of life.......... mmmmm, are you too old for me???

Yeah, it was posted in the other thread.  CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think and I am not sure but even if everything is not release , when the trail is over it would be come public record unless they seal the case . I can go online and download cases that are not sealed for like 9 cents a page , or you can go to the court and get copies. Could be wrong, not sure. Wasnt Peterson case made public I think I went to a website once that had everything on the case evidence and all

If I do not know who the person is how do I know what kind of question to ask?

I consider 50 robbing the cradle  ::MonkeyHaHa::

If Lee is the father, I think it WOULD be released -- if it is someone else (not associated with the case) -- I would doubt it.

Are we absolutely SURE all gathered "Discovery" is public domain?? (I would think it could poison the jury pool)

That is half a century or 5 decades old.  Happy Birthday Wreck!!   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink::

Would it be considered "discovery" IF the Ant's came clean and fessed up to both sides who the daddy is? ...

My guess is that if the State's Attorney intends to introduce the paternity evidence during the trial that it will be released to BJ JB, however I do not know what will be released under the "fl sunshine laws", I don't know if ALL evidence turned over to the defense comes under such public information status. 

In the back of my mind I catch myself wondering about what discovery will be turned over to the State Attorney's office by the defense as anything they intend to bring to the table during trial as evidence, including witness will need to be disclosed.  Wonder how large the Quiji Board will be.

Wreck - I don't know the answer, but I have had the same question.  LE is holding back parts of their evidence like some of the statements.  The judge has also said that LE doesn't have to release the forensics from the dogs to Baez.  I wonder if they will be required to release the DNA paternity or if they will sit on it until the trial.  I have to think that the paternity issue will be used by the prosecution to help their case.  They could possibly use the paternity as a reason why Casey didn't want Caylee.  According to his conversation with A-1, Padilla is indicating that George is not a candidate for paternity.  If it is Lee, I wonder if LE will use that as a reason why Casey didn't want Caylee.  Likewise, if it is Lee, the defense will no doubt use the information to support emotional issues with Casey.  If it's one of Casey's many guys, the paternity issue might not have any bearing at all.  I am still asking why the Anthony's never went after child support.  They are such money grubbers.  My gut tells me that paternity will become an issue in the trial and we might not see the results in a document dump.

I was wondering the same thing, Dolce.

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You guys are on a roll tonight lol I am sitting here rolling!!

Evening all MONKEYS!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Thats older than my Dad.

Hello Rob!!!! :smt052 :smt052 :smt052 :smt052 :smt052 :smt052 :smt052 :smt052 :smt052 :smt052

Good evening everyone, WOW I know this has probably been discussed already but I have been out of the loop, literally, just turned NG on and hear about the blockbuster movies  ::MonkeyShocked::  and the purchases on JCP card.   ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG she is so freaking busted now, there is no way the defense can explain all this as "nothing". I am so disgusted with this sorry excuse for a mother!

Missed that...WHAT WAS ON THE JCP CARD???

You are going to have to speak up louder! My hearing is fading.  ::MonkeyWink::

Okay, THANK-YOU to all -- now, no more please -- back to the the case!

I missed NG - What has bought on the JCP card?

Just imagine that it's someone very close to the case.  Like I said, I don't know who it is yet.  Hopefully Murt can tell us soon who it is.

OK, I missed NG too!  What was purchased at JCP?

Ok, ok.
No more until tomorrow! ;-p
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That Murt sure is an interest tickler.  I have so many questions, but I do not know which one would fit with the "interviewee". 
Thank you for the 411 though Klaas..always on the ball!

Wreck,
Happy Almost Birthday!  When I turned 50 I had a week long celebration.  You've earned that! ::cartwheel::

LP just stated that Lee sent out an email telling people not to donate to TES that they want no involment with this orginization.. Okay Where is his number I am going to call him tommorow .. Im going to give it to his voice mail and IM NOt going to block my number.

wreck I think so. Unless their are extenuating circumstances and the father is known, but plays no role in the crime or Caylee's life.

If the father is a victim of the diabolical An to knees... there's no reason to subject him to public scrutiny.

If the father is a family member and a cousin, that could be released. It all depends on what role the father plays, what role the An to knees kept the father from playing and if there was a motive to keep the father a secret.

It's not so cut and dry.

What was bought at JCP?

I Missed it to someone please tell!!

I guess the "witness" that saw a woman in a floppy straw hat and red sunglasses ... anyone else have a guess?  Should you do a "poll" Klaas?  LOL

If I heard it correctly she purchased 2 cross necklaces... one for her and one for caylee.  ( I look at this as a way to "keep her close". JMHO.  remember Casey saying "I feel like she's close"

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

2 crosses

Good Guess. How about the video guy?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Nothing on here yet ...  http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/contact

How about LP? He's going to be in town soon and he loves to talk :-)

LP said Cindy told him Casey bought Caylee a cross necklace, then LP said he thinks Casey bought another one on the JCP card, so there were 2. Nancy cut him off after that i think and it wasnt discussed anymore.

And if you watch that video of her being arrest at her house that one night when everyone is calling her baby killer, she is wearing a cross necklace, most likely the one she bought at JCP.

Last night, we were discussing the receipt.  There were two purchases for storage @ $1.00 each.  I am still wondering if they were plastic trash bags.  I was asking if anyone has the photographs that Red posted way back.  I have the one with the shovel under the bridge, but there were two more with that photograph.  One photograph showed a knife and they other showed a mess of white stuff that looked like trash.  Does anyone still have those two photographs?

Wow, wasn't that thoughtful of Casey.  OK, I am conviced...She should WIN MOTHER MOTHER OF THE YEAR.  I like how she had to buy herself one too, of course.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

So that means that LP must have seen the JCP card statement?

Casey bought her a necklace with whos money? Amy's ? Are you freaking kidding me! Cindy is freaking killing me with her stupid mouth ... Does she even listen to what she says> Must be like KC 2 DEAD squirrell climb under my hood

The Orlando Sentinel has added another false rumor to its long list of
false rumors and inaccurate information?
Baez you should be able to identify false rumors and inaccurate information, since that is all you have heard from Casey, kinda like the rumor that Caylee is with the nanny Zanny, or that she works at Universal Studios!

Wholely?
Is that a backwards way of saying completely or is it like Casey’s stories, holey?

And it is from an entirely different individual…
Like who? Charlie Manson, Dennis Rader, Joran Van Der Sloot or some other deranged killer?

Blatantly irresponsible?
Sort of like not reporting your child missing?

Misleading the public for the sole purpose of making headlines…
Like your announcement that you have investigators who are out of state getting a photo of the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez and Caylee?

Casey Anthony and family members have maintained that Caylee is alive,
Yep ever since they figured out she may get a needle in her arm, before that the car was filled with the smell of death. Or was it Pizza?

An out of state group to collect tens-of-thousands of dollars in a nationwide fundraising campaign, without a single accounting on where that money is going?
     I believe that you are referring to Texas Equusearch. Who is a charitable organization, and has been granted 501(c)(3) status. Not that you would know what that means, but it does require the organization to do certain recordkeeping.
     Section 501(c)(3) organizations are required to keep books and records detailing all activities, both financial and non financial. Financial information, particularly information on its sources o support (contributions, grants, sponsorships, and other sources of revenue) is crucial to determining an organization’s private foundation status.
Section 501(c)(3) organizations must make their application (Form 1023) and the three most recent annual returns (Form 990 or Form 990-EZ) available to the public, upon request and without charge (except for a reasonable charge for copying). The IRS also makes these documents available for public inspection and copying.  So I would suggest if you have any questions regarding the income and expenses that you request this information and then you might have a clue where the money is going!!!

               Anything else you would like to add Mr. Baez?  ::MonkeyCool:: I didn't think so.

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Good post - this needs to be faxed to Baez!!
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Not me I am a chicken monkey. I could write it, but couldn't send it...... ::MonkeyNoNo::

One of the psychic tipsters said that when they found Caylee they would find her with a piece of jewelry...IIRC

Didn't we hear about the cross already, but from whom?  I know somebody said this last week. Didn't they?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Saw this at WS maybe LP has seen the statements?

Originally Posted by sweetmop 
He didn't mention on the show, but on his site he has said that the crosses were purchsed the day Casey called and got the amount of available credit on the JCP credit card ( CA's credit card). That date was 6/27/08.

I got a phone call during LP's "new theory" right after the two crosses comment - is it anything good?

You can get rolls of trashbags sometimes for a buck its the cheap ones but they work in a pinch. I know I get them at walmart , sometimes target

Good post - this needs to be faxed to Baez!!
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Not me I am a chicken monkey. I could write it, but couldn't send it...... ::MonkeyNoNo::
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I send it to both Baez and Black with my name all over it.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

My question(s):  The video store said CA and TL were in the store on the 16th.  What time were they in there?  George said he saw them on the 16th at 12:50, right?  So, from the looks of the video store tape the sun is still shinning, so about what time was it?  Does that mean CA alledgely killed the baby in just those few hours?  What time did that man see CA coming out of the woods?  Maybe we can narrow down the time line. 

We have seen Casey wear at least two crosses, right??  Am I missing a significance that Im not aware of????

I am still convinced she was dead on the 17th. I have no proof to back this up, JMO.

At the same time?

Does the sunfire still stink? Maybe the jury will want to go smell it ::MonkeyLaugh::

Happy Birthday WRECK.
Hope you had and are having a good one with cake and sparklers and a few adult beverages ! Gee, you were young when you first started posting here !

...
So was I. I just looked at a flyer with party shoes, nice spiked high heels. I would buy them in my old age if they came with training wheels. 

No, silly!!!

OK so she got 2 crosses on the 27th of June, but Caylee was killed on the 16th, so she couldn't have put it "on" Caylee. Maybe she dropped it in the grave, which would be great b/c the metal detectors would go off!  ::MonkeyShocked::

Hahahahahahaha, i thought you were telling a joke.  Does the sunfire still stink????

I have lost all sympathy for this family, They are mean.  Lee needs to get a life.
He should be grateful that all these people are searching for Caylee.  How dare he send out these emails and put down TES. and TIm.

You didn't! OMG, you brave monkeys just amaze me, just the thought makes me queasy.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Because, it would infer that she bought one for herself and one for Caylee. Where is the OTHER cross? Did she bury Caylee with it?

On the 16th, she said she went back to pick the kid up at Sawgrass, etc. That story.
Then no one was home, she called, blah blah and then went to a " neutral place". Tony's.
She left out the part about putting the kid in the trunk or in the backyard playhouse.

Maybe she bought one just like it for Amy????

If somebody kidnapped your child - wouldn't you stilll be worried for your child's safety and want to rule out all possiblities that the "kidnapper" didn't hurt or kill your child? 

Question?  Why would CA try to hide this JCP statement from investigators?  The statement wouldn't name the items would it?  Doesn't it just say Jewelry dept?  Don't you have to have the reciept for itemization?

NoIwas really asking , As my hubby would say I had one of my blonde farts again. Would the death smell still be in the car after this long ? How long does the smell stay around ? Maybe the jury will want to smell for themselves, just like went they went to see the peterson boat. Will someone run the trail on TV? Oh I cant wait it will be like Xmas for me!!!!!!!!

mytime depends on what kind of murder case you're talking about. This is murder one. Cap one.

There is no bond. And I can't think of any cases where the accused was given bond, unless it was a gift from some higher up.

there are lots of cases where the DA knows it's a death penalty case, but can he prove it? so they go for what they can PROVE TO A JURY. Often second degree and they get bond.

Help Find Caylee Search Fund & EffortsAll funds donated to the trust fund will go directly towards funding the efforts in finding Caylee.  Funds are currently being used to pay for fliers, (Distribute Fliers (updated flyer coming soon), t-shirts, (who besides the A’s have been wearing them?) water for volunteers, (How much water can George drink, even after following up on 5,000 leads), ( etc... 

And, they don't want to give a darned dime to TES? 

Are the Anthony's allowed to vote next week???????????

Anybody?????

So we know that CA baby was last seen for sure on the 15th.  George says on the 16th, but I don't know.  That means that she had to have gotten rid of the baby between night of the 15th or the 16th afternoon to have gone back to TL, then go rent movies and it's still light outside.

I thought that someone said Cindy had a cross on like Casey's in a photo.

Or bought it to fend off "Count Nejame"

I'm still cathcing up and so (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/native0.gif) about Mr(?) Blacks statement and NOW  this " E-Mail "  ??

Do we have a copy of the E-mail   and we get Black to name the group?
Most of the time   I'm kinda like a Duck and Water on the feathers but there are times I get (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/reddog.gif) and want to (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/nutkick.gif) people to get their attention  and YELL  wake the F-up   and yes this is one of those times...
Sorry for the mini rant ...  and :smt006 Monkeys

Have we found out what was purchased at JCP's   

I thought I read in the past week something about a white trash bag with a yellow pull-string.

I found the pictures from Red.  The shovel, backpack, trash, and knife were located under a bridge where he was searching with TES.  Does this trash look like it could be a roll of white trash bags that Casey could have purched as storage @ $1.00 each on that Target receipt?

yes, but I don't remember who said it.

What I don't get is that IF the Anthonys' are NOT covering up for KC and are being true and honest in their beliefs and searches, what does it matter to them if Tim and TES searches? Surely they would want to find Caylee no matter what! Why would they go on the attack like this and embarrass themselves like this? Everyone knows what TES stands for and any family with a missing child would be on their knees thanking God that this group is willing to help. Their actions and attitudes scream cover up, the only "group" they belong to is Parents of Killers club!  ::MonkeyShocked::

Hopefully Casey has done herself in again, because this will be a way to identify Caylee's remains.

I agree.

Spit it out MURT.   

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet

Ok, there is a picture of her wearing a black top with cleavage and white pearls/w cross, then didn't she wear a Cross with St Christoper to court????

So you think it would burn and sizzle on her skin???  ::MonkeyHaHa::

The unidentified remains we talked about back in September from Marion County (September 14) have been identified. http://www.wftv.com/news/17476779/detail.html  This was the 'mystery case at namus, for anyone who may remember.

Anyway...the poor soul who's life has ended now has a name. Everett Laverne "Peanut" Jackson.

 http://www.ocala.com/article/20081029/NEWS/810290293/0/frontpage?Title=Body_in_river_ID_d_as_missing_man

Everett Laverne Jackson, 38, of Ocala, had been missing since the Labor Day weekend. May he rest in peace and his killer/killers be brought to Justice.

Let's see...top with cleavage...that narrows it down!

I did Mammy, there is a picture of Cindy wearing a gold cross and then KC is wearing one in the bank photo.

Wasn't the white trashbag with the yellow tie up the one from the trunk??  Also, storage IMO would not be for trash as you store leftovers but you throw out the trash.

the way they are dissing TES and going to these missing kid events...it's like they are contradicting themselves...but that is what the Anthony's do.  I wonder what the other missing child's families think of this bunch? Grrrrrrrrrrr

OOPS.......HAT TIP FAITH @ HFTM ...I did not find an answer for that one, she did :)

Thank you Boo!

Is it just me or does photo #5, the white trash bag, appear to have the shape of a small body?  I can't get it to open so that I can look at a larger image.

5 Kudos ::MonkeyDance::::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks NUT

I think this looks like it could be a roll of those plastic trash bags that you can rip off one at a time.  I wonder if Target sells these and if they were the items marked storage @ $1.00?????

Do we have prices for the necklaces?  Pennys probably sells those 14 caret gold filled crosses for babies.....

Think about it, Casey bought her daughter and herself crosses with stolen money?   How do you defend that?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thinking back on the Lying A's. 

Now:

CA states definitively to Detective Corporal Melich that the photograph of GreatGrandpa & Caylee was taken by her on 5/31/08.

CA states definitively to Detective Corporal Melich that the last time she was with Caylee at the resthome visiting GreatGrandpa was 6/09/08.

Is it only me that find it very ODD to say the least that there was no doubt expressed by the LIAR CA, that she would be so definite in her statements to Melich rather than telling him that she was unsure & would have to reconstruct?

After information is researched by Detective Corporal Melich & team, it comes to light that the photograph & the last visit with Caylee to the resthome of GreatGrandpa was the SAME DAY 6/15/08, which is neither 5/31 or 6/09, which by the way are Saturdays & iirc Sundays seem to be the day of the week that Caylee was consistently with the CA LIAR.  Wonder what KC did on the "normal Saturday"?

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Anybody?????? ::MonkeyWaa::

KC would have never thought of buying a cross for Caylee, unless it would have been way after the fact when she found out she might be pickled.  She never gave a second thought to killing her, whether intentional or not.  KC was/is only about KC.  Just like the bible thing.  That was a front "after" she was in jail.  

For the life of me, I can't figure out how a neckless with a cross would have even crossed her mind...unless CA was at the root of it.

Maybe she bought her and Tony matching crosses. For his going away to NY thing. She's a selfish girl and I can't see her buying a cross for Caylee, like why bother ? Nothing in it for KC.
Anyway, it isn't evidence.

I don't think that crosses would scream anything to Cindy for her to hide the JCP statement. She could always say she lost it, or Cindy got one and KC got one. I think something on that statement had to spell Murder for her. Like a large piece of luggage, or an item they have recently bought like a previous month ago and then another one is purchased, like a cooler maybe?

It isn't evidence, unless, the Anthony's (or Tony) is not in possession of the second cross.  That could mean it is with the body.  If found with the body, that second cross could pretty much eliminate all doubt as to who killed Caylee (not that I have any doubt, but, even if the body is found, the defense will certainly claim there is no proof Casey did it. )

I agree with you 100%.  I have asked Rob Dick this question on LP's forum and he does not answer - tells me that LE doesn't want to release the info just yet.

Sorry, getting tired.  I got confused and thought that LP was talking about the statement and the cross/crosses at same time.

The luggage or cooler idea have been discussed a lot recently.  Personally, I would go with the luggage, as I'm not sure if the trunk of KC's vehicle could handle a large cooler.  However, on the other hand, couldn't the luggage just be shrugged-off as just that?  Wasn't KC planning on flying to California?

Goodnight Monkeys!

She would have to show the luggage purchased and it would have to be in new condition. The luggage would be a bit more difficult to "lose" than a cross.

On what date is the Target receipt?  It could be evidence.  She could have placed it on Caylee before she buried her.   They do sell those at Target as I was looking at them a few weeks ago for one of my granddaughters.  The run about $25 to $40, depending on design and quality. 

Oh my gosh, am I slow or what.  I just thought of a duffel bag as luggage.  You can cram that into about any place.

Bags like this come in small, medium, and large sizes.  They are numerous brands including store brands.  They come in rolls with perforated seams to rip the bags off the roll one at a time.

Good night mammy...

I buy this type of bag for my kitchen.  I don't think I have ever seen a package sold that cheap in any size or brand.

Does anyone have a photograph of Casey wearing her cross?  This is a link to some of the cross necklasses at JCP.  These are available online, but there could be a larger selection in the stores.

http://www.jcpenney.com/products/C049346.jsp

have a guess on Murt's mystery guest... Higher Hopes investigator friend. Hey Lee can we borrow that Darth Vader hood just for a little while  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

The one with the black top is in Blonde's pictures.

I do but I think it will be gigantic on here.

LP mentioned it last week on NG- he was going to say more but just as she did tonight, NG  cut him off mid-sentence.   Not sure why...

The picture of Tony and Kc she is wearing a black dress, she obviously had her hair done and her nails from the blue dress picture.  She is wearing a pearl necklace with a cross at bottom.  Looks like a JCP necklace.

I have bought off-brand plastic bags that are pretty inexpensive, especially if they are on a sale.  They can also be purchased a $ stores.  The large inexpensive bags usually have about six to ten bags on a roll.

Oh boy, I don't know what went wrong, but I didn't write:  "She would have to show the luggage purchased and it would have to be in new condition. The luggage would be a bit more difficult to "lose" than a cross."   I was just responding to it.

Do these postings this sometimes get possessed by the little green gremlins?   ::MonkeyLaugh::

The bag that was taken from Casey's trunk and thrown in the dumpster at the Towing company was white with yellow handles (ties) according to the Manager Simon Burch.   

Something makes me think Casey never wore a cross in her life until she killed her daughter.
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So you think it would burn and sizzle on her skin???  ::MonkeyHaHa::
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Love it... very funny.....  ::MonkeyLaugh::  We will have to keep an eye out for the burn marks!

What about the photograph of Casey during one of her arrests?  Wasn't she wearing a cross on her way to jail?

Body found in Palmetto, Manatee County, FL at 'Tree Farm' 10/27 identified:
28-year-old Emerson Martin of Bradenton

If you enlarge this picture there is a big black duffle bag at the bottom end of the bed.  This is at Tonys house but I don't know when it was taken.

Okay, I got it.  Most items in stores are not an even price.  Like $1.29 instead of $1.00.
However, as you enter Target stores they have a little section with a few displays holding items for $1.00, $2.50, etc.  Or a dollar sale.  I go for a little container, or as is the case a couple of them.

Oops guess it doesn't have to be enlarged. 

The cash registers in stores sometimes have strange skew categories and maybe they don't differentiate small storage bags from large storgae/trash bags.  The trash in the picture that looks like plastic bags doesn't seem to have the yellow handles.  Could she have bought more bags because she ran out of the ones with the yellow handles????  They could have been different brands and the bags without ties and handles are usually cheaper.

I do wish Nancy wouldn't cut people off. LP was trying to talk about Lee sending the emails to stop people from donating to TES, and suggested there was something he didn't want found. Nancy broke in and said she didn't agree and said they were still hoping to find Caylee alive, etc. LP said the searches couldn't hurt... if they wanted to go ahead and search themselves, that's fine, but they were not doing any searching!! I think he is onto something... he's got it figured out. None of them want Caylee to be found... because they know she is dead, and once the body is found, Casey will go down for Murder One. Without the body, they believe Casey might get away with it. Or at least not be given the DP.

There has been a lot of discussion on the white with yellow drawstring trash bag theory, which IMP or at least in this household, doesn't hold much weight without tearing. For our "large" trash can in the garage, I buy the Hefty Steel Sak 1/3 mil.

In curiosity, I looked-up the average height and weight of a female 2 and 3 yr. old.  Just to give an approximate average, a 2 yr. old female's height is 30" and weight is 28.4 lbs.  A 3 yr. old female's height is 33" and weight is 30.8 lbs.  Now, the largest of the white tall trash bags would not hold either height or weight without busting at the seams, doesn't it seem?

I'm still thinking about my duffel bag theory.  That would make a lot more sense for size and weight.

Who is the guy in the floor?

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So you think it would burn and sizzle on her skin???  ::MonkeyHaHa::
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Love it... very funny.....  ::MonkeyLaugh::  We will have to keep an eye out for the burn marks!
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 :smt103   OMG    {fainting here}
lnichols   Hey Capt.   Jack     good to see you   

I agree, that's why I posted the pic above.  I think I used to have that pic from a different angle and it appears to be a long duffle bag.  I probably deleted that pic. 

Something I always wondered myself.  He looks like an african american male. 

I'm not convinced that's Casey:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/Bag.jpg)

THE CROSS

NANCY GRACE
Forensic Evidence Released in Missing Florida Toddler Case
Aired October 24, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

PADILLA: Here`s the thing. Casey might lie to the parents. Cindy will lie to the media. One day she says there was a body decomposing in there, the next day she says it was pizza.

One day she tells us that Casey bought the cross at JCPenny for Caylee. Caylee had been dead for days.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/24/ng.01.html



VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, what`s your point? Your point is.

PADILLA: Well, the point is that the family lied.

# Next  ::MonkeyCool::

According to the Grand Jury findings, LE can obviously prove that Caylee is dead and was in Casey's trunk.  I'm sure that LE must have additional evidence linking Casey to Caylee's death in order for the Grand Jury to have handed down the indictment.  Without a body, Baez still might be able to fight that Casey wasn't the murderer, even if there is evidence that Caylee is dead.  They will fight for reasonable doubt.  If they do find Caylee, they will be able to link Casey to the location by cell phones and probably lots of other evidence that we don't know about.  Baez and the Anthony's do not want TES to find Caylee because it will probably mean the difference between many, many years in jail and the death penalty.  At this point, Baez and the Anthonys will probably do anything to keep Tim Miller out of Orlando.  Tim is already showing signs of stress and I have no doubt that Baez and the Anthonys will really be pounding on Tim now.  They don't want Tim to find Caylee.

No actually I just realized the picture got cut off on the right side.  It is a long black duffle bag.

Why the heck didn't I think of that? (http://i37.tinypic.com/xap1zt.jpg)

Wreck!!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I hope Dolce finds this.. and I'm not too late.

Do NOT find out the sex of your twins.... that is part of the fun part of having children ... Scrambling at the last min.  to get room colors / clothing correct.
JMO  but have been there done that with my/our twins...   
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Thanks for the advice OF.  The hubs is impossible at being patient.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Do you think this is at her parent's house????   Mom, can I have a sleepover???   I can???   Yeh!!!!!    (with just boys)

Ooops, I poked the "report to mod button"  What happens, do alarms go off at Klaasends house????   Dogs howl??? 

I never thought that was Casey sleeping in that photo. Doesn't even slightlly resemble her ... drunk or sober, lol.

Hey look, my numbers are staying the same again?????

I have had the same number all night.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Ok folks, gotta hit the sack, I was here way to late last night.

Sweet dreams to all!
(http://i34.tinypic.com/osbqk0.jpg)

I think it's Tony's and it looks like she's sleeping on a childs pillowcase.  JMO

Thanks, Mary Mary from another Mary.  Saw it on a little later post.

I've been trying to watch NG off and on, but I swear that Comcast has something against Fox, along with a few other choice channels such as Hallmark.  They do temporary freezes so that you miss things.

Off of the subject, I had to giggle at NG's twins.  They are just too cute.  Wish they were my grandchildren.  It would be so much fun to spoil them rotten, and then send them home.  NC appears to be a super mom.  It's so gratifying to know that there are more great people in this world than demons.  

Another Mary.

Good nite.

Well I don't know about everyone else but, if I got my statement in and saw a
childs car seat on it knowing that KC already had one I wouldn't want LE to see it
If their was body fluids on it, she would have to get rid of it. Also the crosses are
a good thought, but would be very hard to find.

It looks like the room just smells!   ::MonkeyConfused::

LOLOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::  No, a message goes to all of the moderators including me, Red and Dugga.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I think the car seat was found with the car though.  I do agree it's something along those lines.

Can you say hangover? ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks for your post Mary,
My daughter-in-law is due in February (boy-girl twins), I am thrilled.  First time Grandma for me. 

Good night Orchidwmn.  Loved that post!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Still catching up but I landed on my feet in the new cage. ::MonkeyDance::

Orchidwmn, I love your post here and I couldn't have said it better myself. :smt041 :smt038

PJ :flower:

Well, Im going to turn in.........Wreck are you staying up til midnight so you can enjoy the last of your 40's????   

Yeah, probably like Doritos!!!!

damn shame Daylight Savings doesn't end until this weekend! ::MonkeyWaa::

Oh my gosh, I so envy you.  CONGRATULATIONS!  I have twin cousins and twin niece/nephew.  They are adults now.  But, the stories about their times growing-up are such a hoot.  Something that only twins dream-up.  One of the funniest was painting the garage floor, and the car, too, which belonged to the dealership.  Not so funny then, but funny now.

That is definitely her big toe!!!

That photo was posted early on I think the source was Grande.
Look at the dirty feet.

Well, here, we will click glasses, Im drinking blackberry IZZE........To Wreck - Happy birthday!  and good night.

Goodnight Orchidwmn,

I agree that your post is too cute!  It's making me tired.

And, be glad you're getting out of your 40's.  50's are much, much better!!

The picture of Caylee in the car seat....the car seat is an Eddie Bauer.  Don't think JCP sells their brand, but not sure.

Oh, I'm a mess.  now I'm making Orchidwmn older.  It was that posting that made me so tired.

Forget the age thing, please........ Sorry!

Golden Oldie/Mary

Don't want us to get in trouble for O/T but thanks for your well wishes.  It's just not real yet to me until I see them and hold them. 

Nite monkeys!! I'm exhausted!  ::MonkeyWink::

Target carries "Eddie Bauer" luggage. Actually, pretty quality -- I have some.

Oh boy, I don't know what O/T stands for.  Am I in trouble already? Did I do something wrong?

I saw the movie rental stuff, starting to think Tony knows more than what's been told to the public.  I believe he let her have use of his jeep, he was with her when she stole the gas cans from the house, now he's with her on movie night renting those movies (kidnapping/murder).  WTH Casey?  She wanted to talk to him right away when she went to jail the 1st time too, and didn't someone say she texted him or talking about him saying "if they never find the body guess who's gonna spend eternity in jail."  I took it as a threat to someone.  I saw Tony wearing sunglasses to hide his face on Geraldo, running into a bathroom to get away from reporters.  They both have something to hide, the way they've acted.  Why do all these people help her clean things, lie, laugh, ...  What about Caylee??!!!

Casey wears this necklace frequently.  There are also photographs of her wearing this necklace with white sunglasses and a baseball cap.  The necklace itself looks like pearls or beads.  I can't tell what is also on the necklace.

I just got off the phone with a Target store on the west coast.  I asked them about the 9 digit number on the receipt (maybe, upc code) and she said the numbers listed next to storage showed the description as "4 pack storage" I know this don't help much but I don't believe it's trash bags.  I'm thinking maybe the size for toiletries such as pills, toothbrush - maybe?  I noticed next to the prices of storage, goody and arm n hammer there is a "T" - would that stand for toiletries? 

It's off topic, we are supposed to stay on topic with this case.  I think we are ok.   ::MonkeyWink::

Thank you MaryMary.       ::MonkeyConfused::

I just hit report to moderator!!!!  The police will be there any minute!!

I would guess it is those little cheap containers w/ lids (like Tupperware).

I was waiting for you entrance. ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I have seen Casey wear a Rosery like it's a necklace...Is this what you are talking about?

btw, it's not as pretty as my necklace!   ::MonkeyTongue::

You are on hot monkey!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  No, it's definately not  ::MonkeyHaHa::

make that "one"

MM- how would you know what Casey's big toe looked like?  ::MonkeyEek::

I am laughing so hard right now...   ::MonkeyLaugh::

The ARM N HAMMER = ARM N HAMMER 15 oz. ::MonkeyRoll::

Just a thought about Casey.  If she so easily stole money from friends and family, I wonder if she ever just pocketed stuff from stores, or was that against her principles?   

You think this is the one LP was talking about tonight?  Yes, this is a rosery...


Still like my necklace better! 

A little piggy told me  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Wasn't she wearing the cross at her "press conference" the day of the GJ hearing? (she was dressed like a "Para-Legal")

Klaas is there anyway to downsize a picture?  I want to post the one of the pearl cross necklace.

I've seen her wearing this necklass in a lot of photographs.  It does look like a rosary, but Casey isn't Catholic.  Why would she be wearing this if it didn't have a special meaning?  Is this one of the two necklasses that Padilla is talking about?  Will Tim Miller find Caylee's remains with the matching necklass?

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Best I can find of the cross.....

(http://i38.tinypic.com/3451zyc.jpg)

This is exactly what I was thinking.

If it's a metal cross like this picture, can't they use a metal detector to find Caylee?

It is a rosary she is wearing which didn't go over too well with Catholics. Big discussion on other sites.

Where can I find the Caylee discussion #51?  I wasn't done reading it yet. Thank you  ::MonkeyDance::

Yes lot's of ways if you have a photo editing program or maybe even in paint.  If it's in photobucket you can resize it there.

Worst case post as is and if it's way too big I can fix it.

It's right here:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3843.0

Nevermind, just found it.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks Klaas, Hope this doesn't take over the page..  Here goes

Bows to Klass, wow you are quick, I should of looked harder.  ::MonkeyEek::

Perfect example Seeme!  Thanks!

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CrossBank.jpg)

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do you expect me to believe that's KC in bed with some guy and both of them have their clothes on? No way!!! ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Dang!  Casey has as many necklaces as I do!   ::MonkeyWink::

Maybe she ran out of GAS  ::MonkeyTongue:: 

I wonder if she tried to clean the lining of the trunk.

THE ROSARY BEADS
NANCY GRACE
Casey Anthony Released From Jail for Third Time
Aired September 16, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: We are taking your calls live. Mom, Casey Anthony, has waltzed back out of the Orange County jail.

To Natisha Lance, our producer standing by at the Anthony home. What happened?

NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, Nancy, they had a larger area blocked off today so that media could not get very close to Casey right until the very end, when she was able to get into the car. Jose Baez went in with those two security guards that were with him last time when Casey was released. She went into the -- they went into the jail. She came out, security guards in front, Jose Baez behind. Casey walked out head held high. She seemed much more confident this time, wearing sunglasses as she was arrested in, her "Find Caylee" T-shirt and rosary beads, and they were off once again...

GRACE: Rosary beads?

LANCE: ... to the house...

GRACE: Are they Catholic?

LANCE: Rosary beads. No. From my information, no, they are not Catholic.

GRACE: She`s got rosary beads?

LANCE: Yes. From what I`m hearing, they were given to the family by some close friends to help them pray in the search for Caylee.

GRACE: OK. She came out wearing dark sunglasses with her head held high? Did I just hear that?

LANCE: Yes, that`s correct.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/16/ng.01.html


Casey Anthony Turns Herself In On New Charges
POSTED: 7:57 pm EDT September 14, 2008
UPDATED: 6:03 pm EDT September 15, 2008

Debbie Sanders and her husband came to the Anthony home from New Jersey to drop off rosary beads and an angel with Caylee's name on it.

"I've followed this story every night," Sanders said. "I have children, so I feel she was part of the family."

For every show of support, there were plenty of critics. A man dropped a profanity-laced sign in the Anthony's yard and then sped off in his car.

Anyone with information for deputies about the Caylee Anthony case should call Crimeline at 800-423-TIPS.

http://www.wesh.com/cnn-news/17472147/detail.html

Nope can't be it...It doesn't say anything about decomposing bodies.   ::MonkeyShocked::

Wow - to try and clean the carpet in the car? 

Good comeback marymary. Half of America can't afford to buy gas for work and this heifer wore out a set of tires every 2 wks.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

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I suspect that maybe it was a futile attempt to get rid of the foul decomposition odor.
 
Janet

O/T...btw, I wanted to let klaasend know that you are an awesome Administrator!...Every time I come on here, you are always here to help...I don't know when you sleep but I want to thank you for all of your hard work!  I know it's not easy keeping all of the monkeys in their cages.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Thanks Poopkinz!   

Sounds like KC ::MonkeyShocked::

Ummmm....how do I say this nicely?!? Is there something wrong with TonE's face or does he always look like this?   ::MonkeyShocked::  Now that I've seen this picture enlarged, it appears he might have had a black eye or an eye infection - any thoughts? 

THE CROSSES - LEE ANTHONY'S EMAILS

LEONARD PADILLA - NANCY GRACE - OCTOBER 29, 2008

Possible Hudson Nephew Murder Weapon Found
Aired October 29, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: I want to go out to Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter who is now rounding up bounty hunters across the country to join in the search for Caylee, he`s joining us out of Sacramento, California.

Leonard, thanks for being with us. What can you tell me? Can you enlighten me about a new theory that has just been put out there that mom Casey Anthony purchased two crosses from JCPenney`s, one of which she put on little Caylee`s body?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, MET WITH TOT CASE INVESTIGATORS: Well, we started -- myself and Rob started asking about this when we were back there, because Cindy -- when we asked her about the crosses she bought, and where she bought it, she says she bought it at JCPenney`s and bought it for Caylee, which struck us as a bit strange.

So here, two weeks ago, we started checking to see if there was two crosses that had been purchased, one for her and one for Caylee. Now that in and of itself is something that the FBI, I think, has the answer to.

However, going back to the 16th where she purchased those two blockbuster -- rented the two movies. Think about it. The very next day she`s got that boyfriend she is snuggled up to, she`s got his jeep and she`s out there talking to Chris, another guy that she`s jumping in and out of bed with, and driving Tony`s jeep.

GRACE: Hey, Padilla, I don`t care who she is -- as you say jumping in and out of bed with. That`s not a felony.

PADILLA: No, it`s not. But think about the state of mind.

GRACE: If that were a felony, probably everybody on this panel would be behind bars right now.

PADILLA: Think about the state of mind.

GRACE: Yes, state of mind.

PADILLA: State of mind.

<snipped>

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question is for Leonard Padilla. Does Leonard believe that Casey still has an accomplice?

GRACE: Leonard?

PADILLA: Not at the -- not at the time that she killed the child. Possibly since then individuals have taken up helping her and -- and to some extent Lee himself just sent out an e-mail to a lot of people, stating do not send money to Tim Miller at Equusearch. I don`t want him involved anymore.

A very rude, very rude letter to a gentleman that has done nothing but help the Anthony family. Now if that means that he`s got something that he doesn`t want found, who knows?

GRACE: Leonard, I -- don`t think that Lee Anthony is trying to stop discovery of Caylee`s remains. I think that he just wants the appearance out there that he totally believes the child is alive and that mom Casey Anthony did not kill her.

I think that he and Casey Anthony are very, very close.

PADILLA: That definitely is something but it`s not reasonable to stop something that -- it doesn`t hurt.

GRACE: OK, with that, I agree.

PADILLA: It doesn`t hurt.

GRACE: Yes, I agree. I agree.

PADILLA: Because he can still look for Caylee as if she`s alive. Let the people like Tim Miller`s people look for her in that state of not being alive.

GRACE: Agree.

PADILLA: But he goes out and look for her being alive. He hasn`t done anything.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/29/ng.01.html

No it should say, "Just Spray and Strut Away!:

I was afraid to say this but if you enlarge his right hand the thumb and finger looks red an swollen.  Could be the photography.  And yes his eye looks strange there. 

Ditto!!

I was just reading somewhere about CA's transformation in appearance.  The only two times you've seen her cry was at her bond hearing and then during her and JB's interview.  But, her appearance is taking shape.  Look at the way she was dressed when she was rearrested this last time.  And her secretary-looking glasses sure made her look more 'mature' than her the shorts and t-shirts she's been wearing.  Maybe JB was teaching her how to dress and cry and how to act pitiful when they get to trial.  Wonder what she'll look like in a couple of months?  And you don't think CA's is pregnant, do you?  It was mentioned a while back that it looked like she was putting on weight and that one photo of her in the blue blouse...kinda looks like she has a bump, but it couls just be from the first pregnancy.  But what was the pregnancy test CA found in the car?  After seeing the blockbuster tape tonight I am really, really thinking that CA got rid of her baby to be with TL.  I really think this is a Susan Smith type case.  Someone said that TL said he didn't want CA bringing CA over; I never heard or read that but it was said on the news.  If so, I believe that's the reason she got rid of TL...so she could be with TL.  And again, that's why she needed to talk to him so badly when she was in jail.  LP said tonight on NG that CA was also seeing some guy name Chris...who is that?

Klaas or anyone - if you talk to Tim or anyone with Tes, tell them we have cold front here.  Bring some warm close for the evening.  Currently 51 degrees in Orlando!  We have the heat on!

I believe last name Stutz

I just zoomed in and I think you're right - I missed that totally.  Do you know the date of this picture?  I was thinking it was maybe Friday, 6/13...

I think it was after she got her nails done (see polish) and hair and shopped at JCP.  But I don't have the date.  I also think that it was after the blue dress Fusion photo's, he hair looked bad than and no nails.  I think that one was on the 20th of June. 

Wow, can't believe it, I think it's warmer in NY.  That should really help the searchers (I think). 

So maybe after Father's Day weekend and the last sighting of Caylee - hmmm....  I'm going to have to ponder that one.  Thanks, MaryMary!

Yeah, I was seeing that in the Obama rally tonight, people were really cold.  I'm sure Tim and Leonard will check with people in Orlando before they come.  I imagine cooler is better than hot and humid though.

Is the church picture new?  Does anyone know if all of these are taken in the same area as one another - or same day as apartment bldg and water pics?

Wow, this is the first photo I've actually been able to see her nails done.  By the way, I think this was either 6/13 or 6/27.  It wasn't 6/20 because on that night she was wearing the blue dress.  I think 6/13.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/CaseyHand.jpg)

edit (fixed typo) 

Yeah, the days have been really nice though.  Yeah, when Tes was here searching before it was like heat stroke weather and real buggy too.  I don't know how they did it. 

Judging by the photo numbers, I'd say they were taken in the same general area on the same day as the rest of the pics SS just posted of Reds.  I'll ask him next time I see him but I know he's real busy for a few days. 

I wonder if SS got the same "treat" MM got when she posted these pictures.  ::MonkeyLaugh::

WOW - she paid to have her nails done and they look that that!!  Why bother!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::  By the way, was that your cute little baby that was laughing at the wii game or just a link you had.  I've got to tell you, that warmed my heart!!  I watched it MANY times!

My guess would be 6/27 after Amscott. 

Hi KCJackie - the photographs were all taken by Red when he was searching with TES.  Do they look like the same area as the office park near Semoran Blvd.?

West Coast Monkey - cute video isn't it?  Not my baby.  Poster Invision asked if I could figure a way to post it for her.  I don't know if it's her baby either, probably not.  Very cute though, lol  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Wow, you never miss a trick   ::MonkeyHaHa::  or treat

 ::MonkeyConfused::  ????

Yes, I'm going to have to bookmark that to watch when I feel down. Nothing like a sweet, innocent baby to make your heart swell.  I still just don't know how all of the Anthony's have abandoned sweet little Caylee.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm going to go check, but I sure don't remember seeing that church picture - I would think that would help.  Here goes my eyes............. ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks, Klaas! (for checking with RED)

SS - when MM posted the pictures a couple of weeks ago - some other photos downloaded too.  Lets just say - they made her blush.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I must have missed that.

Good night everyone.

Nite SS

Good night SS

MM - check you mail!!

I was just trying to figure out what MM saw.  If you click on the photo link and open it you will get a photo preview screen.  If you arrow forward and back through that photo preview screen it will show you all photos that YOU have looked at even if just for a second on your own PC.  So whatever MM saw was probably something that either she or someone else that used her PC had viewed even maybe by accident.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

For instance, when I clicked on one of those photos and opened in preview and arrowed back and forth, I saw some pictures of fireplace screens and electric brooms, both of which I was looking for earlier today.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Edited to add:  Obviously I'm alot more boring than MM  ::MonkeyWink::

Well, someone did give me this laptop,  but most of them were advertisements (about seven) and than poof a really nasty picture.   

Yep, I had advertisements too.  I just didn't have any nasty stuff just fireplace screens, electric vacuums and some pictures in Aruba.  It may look at any pics in your temporary internet folder which I delete every day.

This is not a picture I would ever look at, but I'm wondering if the guy upstairs whose computer I am attached to did.   ::MonkeyConfused::

MaryMary  - I suppose it's possible if they are networked.

Anyway, moving right along......................soooooooo, w ::MonkeyCool::

got cut odd............so what will LP come up with next?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Off.........I meant...........help me here, I am messing up everything. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: One thing we can count on is LP will be on NG tomorrow with more tidbits of info.  ::MonkeyWink::

Have any monkeys personally seen either of the two movies that Casey and Tony rented that night?  I might have to rent them this weekend to see if there are any "similarities" to this case ... maybe Casey embedded some of these stories into her own ...

Yup, I was thinking the same thing...movie weekend.  What were the names again?  Anyone know. 

Untraceable and Jumper  answered my own question.  Thanks ::MonkeyHaHa::

sorry MM ... puter is acting "funky" ...

The new photos show Casey without Caylee, arm in arm with her boyfriend, after they chose two movies to rent. One rented was "Untraceable," about a kidnapper and killer. The other was "Jumper," about a mother who abandons her 5-year-old child, who then can teleport himself.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17841326/detail.html

The plots are definately not the same, from reading online ... but I wonder if some "cover up" antics might have been learned from any of them ...

Thanks IV
Did you hear the lawyer on NG?   Casey wanted to calm herself by watching a movie.  Very calming to watch a movie about a kidnapping when you think your daughter has been kidnapped. 

MYtime

You can not go to sleep without saying goodnight...it is the polite thing to do.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Untraceable - trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLYo5tMylQM


Jumper  - trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PQi5ueqig4

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I am here - just took the dogs out.  I am afraid for your mental psyche, if you watch those movies!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Good night Klaas - thank you for explaining the photo mystery!  Must be the guys upstairs.  The sod defensive.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I don't know how defense attorneys sleep at night ... they make me sick when they know "what" they are defending and still choose to do so ....

Baez and Black want to spew ignorance about people "making money" off of Caylee ... well I think it's time to "come clean" on exactally "they" are being paid!

I know - they hide behind the constitution but it all about the almighty dollar, IMO.

Thanks Klaas.  Did you see the girl look in the trunk like a dead body was there and hold her nose.  Weird. 
Goodnight

I wonder if the purchase from JCP was a trunk!   ::MonkeyEek::

I meant car trunk...now get your facts straight!!!  ::MonkeyDance::

I meant a trunk like college kids use to pack stuff in.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Please do not watch those movies, you'll be in therapy all next week.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

KCJackies ping map on June 30 - July 1st  4:00am .... really has me a bit worried!

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.364819~-80.873108&style=r&lvl=10&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=8262895&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&rtp=pos.28.4489969526049_-81.144934185384_Location%201__~pos.28.4046236425638_-80.6633397191763_near%20Ramp%2C%20Merritt%20Island%2C%20Florida%2032952%2C%20United%20States__&rtop=0~0~0&encType=1

Well don't they have cameras in JCP?  See KC leaving with giant trunk.................maybe I'll watch it on Halloween night.............oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh    ::MonkeyDance::

Everything is rung up with a skew number now, LE will know exactly what she bought.  I am not sure I am buying the cross story yet.  Are you?

Seeing the images of Casey Anthony at Blockbusters really got to me..............Ive been shocked at this creature's behaviour but this really hits home ...........cos chances are  poor little Caylee was likely dead or dying in the  boot of  that car whilst her loved up Mother picks out videos with her boyfriend of approx 3 weeks. 

One things for sure she did Double Cross a lot of people.....sorry   ::MonkeyNoNo::

This one isn't 3-D ..... if you zoom in on B and keep zooming in ... you are at the ocean ....  ::MonkeyNoNo::  If she had used Tonys car when he was in NY she could have "moved Caylee" and disposed of her in the ocean ...  ::MonkeyNoNo::

That does seem to be an odd drive to take at 4 AM.  I've driven from Orlando to Cape Canaveral and there's not much along the way that I remember. Just highway.

LOL - Yes she did.  I wonder if Tony will ever be able to trust his own judgement again?  ::MonkeyShocked::

If she bought crosses, they were for decorative jewelry, not a religious persuasion.

If she shopped at JCP, wouldn't there be different receipts or statements for purchases in different departments?  Even if she bought jewelry, she may have bought something else that LE is not releasing now.

I am along that way. OMG  ::MonkeyShocked::

I thought I saw it going to the ocean, that is pretty unnerving.  But what are the chances the body would wash up though, like with Peterson? 

I know - she is truly a sick girl!!

Isn't this one of the few times she left Orlando?  I thought most of the pings showed her in Orlando, within her own home circle.

The map shows her taking Banana River drive to the ramp at Merritt Island.  Would that be a boat ramp?  Do you know the area, Mytime?

I never knew she came over this way - at all.  Where have I been?  BTW - Az are you cheating on us monkeys?  I have seen you over there -  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes, there is boat ramp named Kelly Park off Bananna Drive. 

I found this.
http://www.lagooner.com/maps/banana-river-boat-ramp.php
Banana River Boat Ramp at Merritt Island
Kelly Park East on North Banana River Drive
Whatever ingredients that God gave the Banana River Lagoon, seems to be the right combination of saltwater, mangrove shorelines and grassflats producing some spectacular gamefishing for anglers seeking to catch redfish, sea trout and tarpon while they visit the Banana River Lagoon.

If you are traveling from the Orlando Airport it's an easy drive with little or no turns after you exit the airport and head east on 520 for exactly 40 miles, then turn on exit 52 or Banana River Drive. Head south for a couple of hundred yards and you'll see Kelly Park on the left. It's that easy... You can't go wrong! But if you insist on putting the address in your GPS.

Banana River Boat Ramp
Kelly Park
2550 North Banana River Drive
Merritt Island, FL 32952

Sykes Creek is right there too - lots of alligators!!

(http://i36.tinypic.com/35iwwti.jpg)

I didn't know she left Orlando area either.  Whatcha mean, cheating?

Do we know if she was communicating with anyone on her cell that night...during those hours? 

I have no idea.  This is new to me.

That map just makes me sick! :gaah:

I will have to look into it a bit more tomorrow ... I am sure LE has the timeline all figured out ... <crossing fingers and toes>

I hope she doesn't have a "friend" with a boat ...

Niterzzz All ...

Timeline for the 30th...... 


June 29th @ 11:59pm - 1st text between Casey & Andy

After dropping of Tony at Airport - she goes to Amy's house (they go to Target to buy gas can) she spends the day at Amy's.

4:56 pm - she is in the vicinity of JcPenney's

5:00 pm - Around Tony's apartment

5:30 - 6:10 pm - Back at JCPenney's

9:10 pm - 2:00 am (Jul 1st) Blanchard Park area - still texting Andy, Christopher Stutz and 4058. Anthony Residence starts calling (left a couple of messages it looks like) after 1:40 am several times up to 2:02 am.

2:07 am (July 1st) - Casey places a 13 minute call to Andy - still in Blanchard Park ping area

2:25 am - Casey is around Alfaya & Pope

2:28 am - 4058 texts Casey - now she's at Navarro & Dallas (just a tad northwest of 2:25 am area)

4:24 am - Christopher Stutz texting Casey - Casey's pings indicate she is between Beachline and Aerospace - this is the area - I believe needs to be searched.

~~~~no other ping location info until 7:51 am - she is around Windmill Ridge area (residential area)

10:15 am July 1st - she is calling Jesse Grund asking to use the shower

You and me both Jackie!  I saw your post earlier tonight ... but haven't been able to sleep since ....  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

THANK YOU so much for all of your hard work and your dedication to this case!  I am very grateful for your maps! 

Yea but would she really go out in the pitch dark of night in a boat....hmmm maybe with an accomplice. 

It sounds like she was out and about all night long.  June 30 was a Monday night, going into Tuesday.

meant to add;  I don't have no proof at all of Point "B" on the map.  I was just wandering where Beachline would end up at and the distance to a body of water.  Point "A" is the 4:24 ping.

Who is 4058?  Do we know?

So she may not have driven that direction.  What is the next ping after 4:24?

I see--7:51 at Windmill Ridge.  Where is that on this map?

Wow, that's a lot of puzzle pieces.  Now I know nothing about boats but if you had to, can you fill a boats gas tank using gas cans?    And isn't that an odd time for the Anthony's to be calling her? 

KCJackie


Digging Caylee back up to move for the final time?  The "thought" makes my skin crawl!

She wasn't living at home at this time, was she?  So, Anthony's calling were not to determine when she'd be home.  Well, maybe they were. 

The BeachLine Expressway is a toll road, so there will be records if she traveled there.

Don't know if Cindy was on vacation than but if she got up early for work I doubt she'd be calling than out of the blue.  But George worked evenings so it could be him. 

Sorry if I am naive... does Orlando have gangs out at night? or drive-bys?

Also, the park you are showing with a pier... is that water there and under the bridge??? is it murky water? I don't see any blue. I do see something that looks like a current.

Are there satellite pictures of that night over Orlando? TIA

Do single women drive all over Orlando so early in the AM, other than going to work?

It does seem an odd time to be calling her on a Tuesday morning. 

Are there any other calls from the A's at such a late or early morning hour?  If anyone knows.

Thank you!  That means a lot.  We all just want her found - and after doing this one - I don't know if she will.  I would say if the searchers don't find her this time - this is looking like what could have happened.

I'm thinking Andy.

While I am on a roll of questions here... why would anyone go to Blanchard Park or any park as a single woman at night?

There is something that smells about this case and I can't seem to put my finger on it.

(sorry, not making a pun about the trunk)

I really do hope Caylee is alive.

IBE, don't get too excited yet. KCJackie said she didn't know if Casey was there.  The phone pinged at her #1 mark, and she was speculating about where she would end up if she drove the BeachLine Expressway.  There isn't another ping until 7:51 AM at a place called Windmill Ridge (but I dont' know where that is).

Yes thank you KCJackie!!

Have to go sleep now - the sleep police just woke up!!  ::MonkeyEek::

- there's not one until 6:50ish am - parents are calling her but she don't answer.  That's right, she may not have.


4058 - People just keep saying it's Jenna the shot girl - I just can't imagine with that music on her phone that it's a girl. 

Miss you MT see you tomorrow...nitey nite.

(http://i33.tinypic.com/2uzzgj8.jpg)

I have not seen that many calls from them after midnight.

She was in Blanchard Park area from 9 PM till 2 AM.  Is there a bar in that area she may have gone to?

Ought ohh!  Good Night!

I think the text messages have been released.  Have you been able to find the one from "Jenna" a little after 2 AM?

Niterzzz All for real this time ....

Invision

Hi
In the map you just posted a lake looks like a heart... didn't a punch of "tips" talk about a heart shaped lake? TIA

Oh, heck. this is sure complicated

Thank you Monkeys for all the work you are doing

June 29th @ 11:59pm - 1st text between Casey & Andy

After dropping of Tony at Airport - she goes to Amy's house (they go to Target to buy gas can) she spends the day at Amy's.

4:56 pm - she is in the vicinity of JcPenney's

5:00 pm - Around Tony's apartment

5:30 - 6:10 pm - Back at JCPenney's

9:10 pm - 2:00 am (Jul 1st) Blanchard Park area - still texting Andy, Christopher Stutz and 4058. Anthony Residence starts calling (left a couple of messages it looks like) after 1:40 am several times up to 2:02 am.

2:07 am (July 1st) - Casey places a 13 minute call to Andy - still in Blanchard Park ping area

2:25 am - Casey is around Alfaya & Pope

2:28 am - 4058 texts Casey - now she's at Navarro & Dallas (just a tad northwest of 2:25 am area)

4:24 am - Christopher Stutz texting Casey - Casey's pings indicate she is between Beachline and Aerospace - this is the area - I believe needs to be searched.

~~~~no other ping location info until 7:51 am - she is around Windmill Ridge area (residential area)

10:15 am July 1st - she is calling Jesse Grund asking to use the shower

Where was she staying when Tony was gone?  I read she didn't stay at his place.

Yes KCJ you have been so helpful to everyone, thank you. 

I was just wondering if it was out of the norm for the A's to be calling KC at such a weird hour.  LP said she was hanging/sleeping with Chris after Tony went to NY.  Could she have been with him that night? 

so maybe this has already been discovered, but i thought a while back when we first saw this pic, people thought that white box on the bed were latex gloves, but it is a computer CD Drive...

http://us.liteonit.com/us/ (http://us.liteonit.com/us/)

I dunno IBE ... I haven't read many of the tips ... couldn't get past the first uuummm let's say 10 ...    ::MonkeyRoll::

4058 - People just keep saying it's Jenna the shot girl - I just can't imagine with that music on her phone that it's a girl.

It's an a duh time for me.. I am about 30 pages behind. What does 4058 mean?

Think I'll have to check here 2 times a day just to keep up!

Nite IV sweet dreams. 

Yes.  TGIFriday's, Calico Jacks, Chili's and a couple others.

Yea I looked up that name to on the box.  Tony was in the music business.  But doesn't that look like a little kids pillow case.  Close up I thought so. 

From the pings, it looks like she partied until the bar closed at 2 AM.  I dont' know the area, so I don't know where she's going afterwards.  Apparently Jenna texts her about 2:30, maybe to go to an afterparty?  Then Chris texts her at about 4:30.  Wondering where she is?  I wonder if he was with her earlier?

When did this girl sleep?   She must have been on coke or something like that. 

She could have been.  But she sure talked to Andy (20-30 times this day) he came out of nowhere.  I'm wondering if he could have helped her dispose of Caylee.  It was not normal for the A's to be calling at that time of day - per her phone records.

I don't think she did!  I'm thinking meth....

When she was arrested, she did say she hadn't slept in 4 days.  I wondered about that.  She's into the party scene and sleeping all day, it seems.  Might be some coke or meth, too, but she doesn't look like an addict to me.

and talking about the cross necklaces... perhaps she bought two, but one she had in her room on like a photo of Caylee, perhaps to give her a mermorial of a sort... and maybe LP and others saw this necklace in the home over a picture and knew it came from JCP after Caylee went missing... I don't think she would go back to put it on Caylee's body, but just kept it as a symbol that she is dead.... SICK, I know, but I have to think the way she would think....

KC who is this Andy?  When does he appear?

It's been a long time but I remember hearing or seeing a guy who was a close friend of her's growing up.  I think he may have been on TV.  I wonder if that's Andy?  thinking out loud

Maybe.  I just can't think this is a significant thing, do you?

Boy, when Tony left she didn't waste any time sitting around, did she?  Party on, girl.  I'm surprised there are no calls to or from Tony that night seeing as how he just left that day.

Well she would have had to dry out pretty quick in jail.   I thought she looked very jumpy and paranoid and dark circles under her eyes in the first jail pictures of her on the phone with Lee or whoever.  Maybe that's why she wanted to talk to Tony, she thought he could hook her up with something, somehow.  Since than she hasn't looked that bad. 

I agree.... coke and pot! In my past I have seen some on both and they have a "go-go" more than Type-A personality until they fry their brain.

I was just looking and it don't look like there are too many places within this ping that would even be open past midnight (some was 9 & 10) more like bar & grills - family type.

I wished they had given her tony's number so she could call him from jail and see what she says to him... maybe she taught him how to talk in a backwords way kinda like she talked to Lee...

Not this night.  The other 4 at Amy's

I know - that would have been good - maybe they did and it wasn't released.

not really significant... but why would LP bring it up? he has to know what this has to do with KC killing her baby... and since they have no body, and no way to know if Caylee had this necklace on her, he must know where the other cross is... maybe KC bought it as a 'thank you' to whoever helped her out... a secret to keep between the two of them, cross - 'death'... not cool...

His first appearance is June 29th at 11:59 PM.  They talk/text all day on the 30th  - up til 2:00 am on the 1st (I believe she picked him up or met him - by location of the ping).  Then, from 1st - 10th, maybe a total of 6-10 texts.  On July 15th (after cindy calls police) Andy calls her cell phone at that time.

Maybe Casey was dealing and that's why she was all over the place.  Boy if a cop had stopped her at any time with that car, this would have been a different story.l 

It's the last 4 digits of "Jenna's" phone number.

They're never around when you need them. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi PJ!  ::MonkeyDance::

Trouble was she was dating most of them too.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe that whole Fusion event planning was a front for dealing and meeting her customers at one general location.   

Good point.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  MM - your post the other night had me laughing so hard.  When you asked if the world had come to an end - and wondering if it was just you and the remaining marshmallows here.  I was laughing so hard I couldn't quit.

And sometimes druggies use more than they can sell, so they're still broke.  Selling would account for the five million phone calls and texts.  She has all the behaviors of a druggie too the, lieing, stealing. sneaking, partying, can't work.  etc.

   ::MonkeyHaHa::  The marshmellows are all gone now.

and so are the remaining monkeys........goodnight yall    ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hope I  am not in "quote stack trouble here"... but IMO I don't think luggage on wheels would be hard to "lose" if you used a shovel or piece of lumber or a fishing pole to push it with its contents into an alligator infested lake... all would be left would be the frame, unless they eat metal. IMO

Dealing in sex and drugs IMO Didn't some of her friends say she had recently become involved with a "different" crowd? I wonder if her stealing really got seriously big time with she started to run with the Fusion crowd? For IMO her money was doing OK  (however she go it) until she started to steal from the great grandparents and someone else before Amy.

Something, IMO opinion made her budget demand more and more $$ than say back in Jan or before with her old crowd. IMO I feel Caylee would be here if her mom had not started running with a faster, different crowd

But then I just ate a can of pork and beans so may be full of it ::MonkeyWink::

OK... I am trying to slow down the turnip truck here so I can get off.... 4058 is Jenna who was killed by gunshot (correct) OK, so KC and Jenna were friends... who was calling who and how much activity on the days before Jenna was shot and on the day Jenna was killed.

Did they share any common friends, night clubs, druggy groups or girlie gangs?

MY dish has been on the blink for 5 days... off and on...they are filming near where I live and there have been explosions and gun shots (at least we know they are random, as usual) Anyway..either a bad receiver or the dish was shook on top of the mobile home. I can't keep missing NG!!! and LP!!!! Went over to the American Legion Post and all they wanted to watch on 4 TVs was the World Series ::MonkeyConfused::

Can't understand why (teasing)

IBE, it's very early a.m. here and I was just stopping by to see how active the board was.  I haven't read back pages so forgive me if you were not serious about your shot girl comment.  It seems that Casey was in charge of the shot girls at Fusians.  I've never quite understood what the shot girls do but it doesn't refer to bullets but shots of liquor unless I'm crazy.  As far as I know, the shot girls are very much still alive.  Hope that helps clear that up or if you were teasing, I'd laugh except I'm too tired...lol

Just stopping by for a second to say  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Whoooooooooa  you better slow down quick.  Now who shot the shot girl??  Did they also shoot the deputy???   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Just one more thing before I go to bed.  It's 4:37am and no I wouldn't even consider going to a Blanchard park at this hour.  But boy my sleep habits are getting as bad as Caseys.   ::MonkeyConfused::   Anyway, I'll be back at 7:00am for the morning clotch.  Niterzzz.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jenna was shot?  IBE, have you had more than pork and beans? (joking - maybe)

IBE - "Jenna the shot girl" is Jenna - I serve shots at Fusian girl. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas,  I'm sorry, this is O/T.  I haven't been here very long but I cannot quit laughing ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: I was wondering if you have a thread for the "Top Ten" posts?  If so, I would like to add one. ::MonkeyDance::

 :smt023  Happy Birthday, Wreck!  (Wish I could be 50 again!) ::cartwheel::

I might be wrong, there was another guy that LE interviewed. His initials were WW
LE said he was not KC type. I think the last 4 #'s of his phone# were 4058. He was
in love or lust with KC. LE thought if asked he would do anything for her. KC phoned
him from the airport when she was waiting for Tony's flight to come in. WW claimed
he only met her on July 4th but LE found a call to him on the 20th of June. There
is a interview with him somewhere in the interviews with all the guys that KC knew.

Detectives Narrow Timeline In Anthony Case
Investigators: 'It All Lies With Casey'

POSTED: 12:25 am EDT October 30, 2008
UPDATED: 6:44 am EDT October 30, 2008

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Detectives narrowed the timeline on Wednesday as they continued to build their case against Casey Anthony.

The Orange County Sheriff's Office said images show Casey Anthony arm-in-arm with a man inside an east Orange County Blockbuster store.

What was significant was the date: June 16. It was the day investigators said they believe she killed her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

Surveillance photos were taken just before 8 p.m. that night, possibly after Caylee died, police said.

Police also continued to sift through hundreds of psychic tips that have poured into the Orange County Sheriff's Office. One of the anonymous psychic tipsters explained why she thinks she can help find Caylee.

"I knew this girl had given up her child," the tipster said.

She said she knows Caylee Anthony is alive.

She considers herself a visionary, and said her information shows Caylee living in Canada after Casey Anthony gave her away.

"She felt her child was threatened and didn't feel like she could protect her child," the woman said.

That tip is just one of 5,000 that have come in on the case that detectives have prioritized and investigated. The majority of the tips, police said, are from psychics. The problem is that some of the visions are just too vague.

"I know that child spent a considerable amount of time in a cottage, on a dirt road," the tipster said.

The tips come from Crimeline, e-mails and even handwritten letters from as far away as Canada, Mexico and Poland.

Some suggested Caylee was in a bomb shelter or being kept in a cage as a pet.

The more morbid visions show Caylee buried in the woods, in water or burned in a farm field.

Investigators said they've followed all credible leads, even from psychics. In the end, they said they believe it won't be a vision that solves the case.

"The person who knows is Casey," Orange County Sheriff's Office spokesman Carlos Padilla said. "It all lies with Casey."

Good morning early Monkeys.  Happy Birthday to Wreck!

 ::cartwheel::  Good morning monkeys,I know I don't post much very hard to do with my hands they hurt really bad, but I just wanted to say......Thank you to all of you working so hard on this case...you are, as my kids would say the bomb-diggity ::MonkeyHaHa::
Happy Birthday to Wreck ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
going back to my tree branch to watch you all  ::MonkeyWink::

MORNING ALL MONKEYS!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY WREK!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

still catching up.....
http://www.shrimpin.com/brevard_ramps.htm
scroll down to #11

Morning monkeys! It's almost Friday.  ::MonkeyDance::

So, I caught part of NG last night and the bit about the crosses bought at JCP. Is this confirmed or just a theory of LP's? Interesting and not something that I would have thought of.

Anything else new?

MARLEE, IF YOU'RE HERE, CAN I PLEASE EMAIL YOU ABOUT THE COOKBOOKS???



Good Morning All!!!!!  ::MonkeyRoll::

I'm not sure how the crosses would prove anything except that LP said that Cindy lied about them. I still think there was something else purchased on the 27th.

Yeah, I think those could be explained away pretty easily. Was he talking jewelry crosses?

And also the Blockbuster footage. GAG!!!!!

Morning Monkeys Can someone refresh my memory is the items Joseph Jordan found were officially ruled out?

I found it interesting that in this pic JJ has there seems to be some kind of "white paint" or something on  the shorts far right and in Reds pictures the one item all has "white paint" like stuff on it...

TIA

http://www.josephsjordan.com/caylee/Pictures%20for%20Jessica%20006.jpg

Good Morning Monkeys!

Happy Birthday Wreck!

I believe that's what he meant, she could say they were symbolic of her searching for Caylee or whatever her crazy mind thinks up! i think she bought alot of stuff at JCP, I just wish we had the statement for June & july! I believe we could rip that thing to shreds!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Morning, Mammy! Hope all is okay with your sil! Happy Birthday, Wreck!!  ::MonkeyWink::

What is that in this picture? I tried to figure it out last night. It looks like a metal stake, maybe, with paint on it?  ::MonkeyEek::

Morning Monkeys.  This is just a quick drive by as I need to get ready for work.  Police think Caylee was killed on June 16, and the decomp in the trunk was 2.6 days old.  Then, it appears that if Caylee was put into the trunk on the day she died, she was removed from the trunk about three days later or June 19 and her body buried or disposed.  I think June 19 or possibly the 20th are significant days when Casey attempted to get rid of Caylee's body.  This also fits with the sightings of her at the Anthony house borrowing a shovel on the 18th.  I think we need to look closely at what Casey did and where she went on June 19 or 20.

We still waiting to hear from Dr before we decide what to do.  Thank you for asking.

Good morning, Monkeys!  I was just thinking about Lee trying to dissuade people from donating to TES, and I'm taking that as a good sign.   If Caylee was placed somewhere where there are lots of alligators, I don't think they'd be too worried about TES finding her, so this makes me hopeful that they have reason to be nervous.

The Blockbuster rental selections make my skin crawl.   She is even sicker than I thought.   What a cold beeotch.

On a happier note....... Happy Birthday, Wreck!!

Good thinking AZ. 

Good morning, monkeys.  Happy Birthday, WREK.  

Mammy, I'll say a prayer for your SIL and you and your family.   Hugs to you.

GoldenOldie, I love the name and the avatar!   

WHOOPS, I MESSED THAT POST UP, MAMMY!!!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

Morning, Mammy!! Still praying for your family!!

If KC could have thrown the body off a bridge or not wander far from her car to dispose of the body, she might place it with alligators.  I don't feel that KC is brave enough to walk very far in an area infested with alligators.

Hopefully, that will make people want to donate even more to TES!! Everyone hates the Anthonys!

Thanks to everyone for thoughts and prayers.

Sister-in-law  - sil

I have been trying to figure out what it was too Im not sure..Maybe it was used to mix some paint or somethin?? IDK

I was wondering if Casey tried to do her own paint touch-up on her car..

I don't like to hate, but the Anthonys' sure make it difficult.  They do make me sick at my stomach.

Good mornin, flossy!! i agree-i don't think Lee would be so worried about TES if he didn't think there was a chance Caylee would be found. I still hate the fact that the Anthony's feel the need to say these things about Tim Miller. There is only one thing i can do-make another donation to TES.  I hope everyone else does too!

Morning monkeys!  Just reading back from last night, the discussion of the 2 videos that Casey rented with boy-toy#500. 

I have seen them both, Jumper was stupid, waste of time, and do not see anything similar in this case.

Untracable, very disturbing movie.  If this is what she watches to calm down then the girl is more eff'ed up than I thought.  The movie is based on a killer who allows people to watch him torchur his victims streaming live on the internet.  There are some pretty sick ways he has people die, and yes it shows it.  My hubs nearly barfed on one of them.  Its not as gorey as any of the Saw movies (which I refuse to watch) but it is still pretty nasty.

That being said, none of the people in the movie died from chloroform or drowning.  Most of it was painfull though and it only got worse based on the amount of people that viewed the site.  NUTS MOVIE!!

It would be just like her to use friggin house paint to touch up her car!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

Cindy's been known to wear a certain cross, the 1st time on NG & to the bond hearing.  Where can I find the 3D maps KCJackie made?  They are too cool.  1 more thing, thanks for the warm welcome KCJackie, islandmonkey & ilovegoodies!  Gotta return the luv!  Ok,

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murtwitnessone-live

Interview with Cindy (part 1).. for me, it's the middle row, blue square directly in the middle. (Part two would be one over to the right from the middle).
-----My recap:
part 2 continued:

On the 10th, Casey told Cindy that she got her car back and they were going to come home on the 12th. Cindy didn't "bug" her the whole day on the 11th.. so Casey called her around 8-9pm on the 12th to find out why Cindy didn't call.  Cindy said "what's the point. You said you were coming home tomorrow so why should I bug you".  Cindy said she purposely didn't call her because she was tired of getting excuses. 

All this week they were either on the boat, swimming, with Jeff at Target going shopping, Jeff's mom was watching Caylee and Jeff's son.. which is why Caylee was never with Casey.  "There was always a reason". 

14th of July- I talked to her but I have no idea what excuse she gave why they couldn't come home.
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in Documents released in the case
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3438.msg484111#msg484111

Time for more coffee.... I tried to say, it was originally labeled as a hack saw type blade!!!!!  ::MonkeyShocked::

Yikes, How the heck do I keep screwing up my posts!!  ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh, thanks, Flossie  (blush)   ::MonkeyWink::