Lively Case Discussion #620 5/14 - 5/15/2007

[sandy leiva]

This outcome will pave the wave for a negotiated settlement between Aruba and Natalee Holloway.

Thoughts?

Janet

Disagree Janet. They're going down.

i too pray they go down, nothing less is acceptable.

[Dayhiker]

No Sure Janet..This case is gonna get solved and Jorans book all but assures that. He is marked. Do the KLPD go through the wall of corruption or around it? I would Imagine people like Rudy Croes who could be the most corrupt will never spend a day in jail. He already announced he is retiring. Other's like Jacobs and Maybee Dompig have to go down.

I agree with what you say but when the truth comes out there are just way too many things from may 29th on that have to be explained. When PVDS goes down the corrupt cops have to go down with him. I beleieve the the judges,govt officials,people in the prosecuters office and scumbags like renfro will all get a free pass.

I lean to your side here *******. The lies catch up to them. The communications and wiretaps tell the tale. Friends squeal. A lot can happen, even the reward money comes into play. I don't think the Dutch would have bothered to go to aruba in such force if they planned to close the case. They wouldn't have put their reputation on the line, vain as they are.

I also lean the same way...

these people are not taking any sh*t, either -- remember the reporting on how paulus was "manhandled" regarding the search?

and now how the Kalpoes were "detained" and escorted away from the inspection scene at their own home?

No, these folks are all going down.  I believe the Dutch pretty much had it nailed when they arrived in force and put the special lock on the door and now they are just "mopping" up all the possible loose ends for the investigating judge just before those warrants (that are probably already signed and waiting) are actually acted upon....

I also believe that there is Interpol involved (the treaty links the FBI to these folks) and that a lot heads are going to roll this time around...

The are going down and Robots is gonna be there to smirk at them  

Agree Silverfox. We will have a party and Robots will be the master of ceremonies.

[Tamikosmom]

This outcome will pave the wave for a negotiated settlement between Aruba and Natalee Holloway.

Thoughts?

Janet

Disagree Janet. They're going down.

Dayhiker ... you know that I hope you are right.

Well ... gotta go ... five year old grandaughter is under the impression that I am obligated to share my computer ... "Mama ... you cannot be selfish".  She says something about having to feed her online neopets ... a language I cannot comprehend.  Scarey!

Janet

Janet

[MuffyBee]

Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!  I've been waiting this.  When was the investigation going to look into Anita?  I asked a day or so ago here at SM if the Dutch might be going to look at the school Joran attended, and Anita worked at.  I think although Anita may not have been present when the bad things happened with Natalee, I believe she knows things and also helped in the cover up along the way.  I would like to see her hiney trotted in and interrogated.  BTW, if you hadn't noticed, I don't care much for Anita Van Der Sloot.  It's all about her and her boy, her family, her world.  She disregards and doesn't seem to value other human beings, IMO.

[sb]

BTW I don't think the Dutch are necessarily the ones who may be monitoring JR.  

[Observer]

They probably found some good notes in Anita's diary that she used to write her book. Notes lead directly to Anitas friends..Like Renfro and other teachers. Sure would like to know what the Headmaster of the ISA knows about Natalees dissapearance. Since it is rumored Juron told him Natalee drowned.

Can you imagine them going through Renfro's computer and finding Joran's so called "stolen" notes, Wangchung's photos of Beth, Jug and Natalee, etc?  Renfro's correspondence with Stinkeypete...and so on.

I really think she has a ton of stuff she never threw away. Mis-Information campaign directly linked through Anita and to throw everybody of from the real facts.

Well Hi Anna..You look pretty today..lol..That a new dress?
I thought about Charles Croes and I have mixed feelings..Far reaching implications? Take a while for the truth to come out? I think he knows that this is the end of the line for the perps but he  worked out a pact with jacobs and others to keep his mouth shut.

[Artcolley]

They probably found some good notes in Anita's diary that she used to write her book. Notes lead directly to Anitas friends..Like Renfro and other teachers. Sure would like to know what the Headmaster of the ISA knows about Natalees dissapearance. Since it is rumored Juron told him Natalee drowned.

Can you imagine them going through Renfro's computer and finding Joran's so called "stolen" notes, Wangchung's photos of Beth, Jug and Natalee, etc?  Renfro's correspondence with Stinkeypete...and so on.

NO wonder she's been so quiet.  I'll bet there is a lot of crap on there that even we can't imagine it all.
That woman was TOO involved right from the beginning.
I imagine that if this rumor is true, the Dutch INvestigators have confiscated all that "stuff" Anita gave her friends for "safekeeping".
Wonder if those panties she described so aptly are included?
Killers always keep a "trophy" reminder of their victims.
Killers often will  get involved in the search for the victim. Another Hmmm

Lots to think about IF if this rumor is true, which we have no way of knowing at this point.
Oh, but it does lend itself for some interesting speculation, doesn't it?  

[msmarple]

Just happen to have the Pap translator handy ... this is the "newbie" post that klaas posted on the previous page:

rumors is saying the friends of anita van der sloot are being questioned in the afer nathalie holloway. it is terror that anita moved things from her home in brought at his friends homes for safe keeping.. her friends do include another teachers an include good morning publisher julia renfro. searches at scheduled for of homes of friends of anita.

[Dayhiker]

They probably found some good notes in Anita's diary that she used to write her book. Notes lead directly to Anitas friends..Like Renfro and other teachers. Sure would like to know what the Headmaster of the ISA knows about Natalees dissapearance. Since it is rumored Juron told him Natalee drowned.

I hope they question the Headmaster thoroughly and also Charles Croes as they both know some things if only they will tell.  Maybe people are weary of lying for Paulus and Joran since the announcement by Joran that he doesn't care about the boycott at all nor the economic consequences that would automatically follow.

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Joran laughs at the Aruba boycott, disses Dutch daily life in Holland, calls Freddy a liar, points the finger at the Kalpoes. Who hasn't he pissed off yet?

[robots]

sloots are going to be kicked off the island..very soon

nobody will want them there....

 

the truth is coming....baby  

[Easywriter]

I never was a big fan of Jerry Falwell, but it is always sad to hear of someone’s passing.  He was a man that devoted his life to a theological ideal and today he gets to realize the fruits of his labor.  I just hope God doesn’t turn out to be a woman, a gay, a minority, or a democrat…..

[sb]

I'll see y'all later tonight! Been good to get in here with the AM folks for once!

[Easywriter]

They probably found some good notes in Anita's diary that she used to write her book. Notes lead directly to Anitas friends..Like Renfro and other teachers. Sure would like to know what the Headmaster of the ISA knows about Natalees dissapearance. Since it is rumored Juron told him Natalee drowned.

I hope they question the Headmaster thoroughly and also Charles Croes as they both know some things if only they will tell.  Maybe people are weary of lying for Paulus and Joran since the announcement by Joran that he doesn't care about the boycott at all nor the economic consequences that would automatically follow.

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Joran laughs at the Aruba boycott, disses Dutch daily life in Holland, calls Freddy a liar, points the finger at the Kalpoes. Who hasn't he pissed off yet?

That gets me too!  You would think anger alone would get some of these people talking even if it was anonymously.

[BTgirl]

I never was a big fan of Jerry Falwell, but it is always sad to hear of someone’s passing.  He was a man that devoted his life to a theological ideal and today he gets to realize the fruits of his labor.  I just hope God doesn’t turn out to be a woman, a gay, a minority, or a democrat…..

or a teletubby.

[Dayhiker]

They probably found some good notes in Anita's diary that she used to write her book. Notes lead directly to Anitas friends..Like Renfro and other teachers. Sure would like to know what the Headmaster of the ISA knows about Natalees dissapearance. Since it is rumored Juron told him Natalee drowned.

Can you imagine them going through Renfro's computer and finding Joran's so called "stolen" notes, Wangchung's photos of Beth, Jug and Natalee, etc?  Renfro's correspondence with Stinkeypete...and so on.

Greta will be crushed.

[Kimmy53]

I hope they do search the homes of Anita's friends, interogate them.  How much do you think they'd cover for the VDS's?  Not much I'd venture to guess.

I bed the Dutch would also like to know How Renfro got access to the dossier and WHO gave her this access.  There's alot of things to be asking her.  Ooooooooo what is that saying? What goes around comes around?

[Easywriter]

Just happen to have the Pap translator handy ... this is the "newbie" post that klaas posted on the previous page:

rumors is saying the friends of anita van der sloot are being questioned in the afer nathalie holloway. it is terror that anita moved things from her home in brought at his friends homes for safe keeping.. her friends do include another teachers an include good morning publisher julia renfro. searches at scheduled for of homes of friends of anita.

Did the translation come through that clean?

[sandy leiva]

Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!  I've been waiting this.  When was the investigation going to look into Anita?  I asked a day or so ago here at SM if the Dutch might be going to look at the school Joran attended, and Anita worked at.  I think although Anita may not have been present when the bad things happened with Natalee, I believe she knows things and also helped in the cover up along the way.  I would like to see her hiney trotted in and interrogated.  BTW, if you hadn't noticed, I don't care much for Anita Van Der Sloot.  It's all about her and her boy, her family, her world.  She disregards and doesn't seem to value other human beings, IMO.

 


Remember anita said in a tv interview "there were other adults there, they need to be questioned not just my son.  and a quote that went like this
Arrest my son and then were through and it will not bring the girl back '  She knows alot she hasnt said, to cover up for papa ans son.  she cried crockadile tears  and described to Beth and Greta
natalies underwear,when they went to Montanja.

Not something a unknowing mom would say...

[Easywriter]

I never was a big fan of Jerry Falwell, but it is always sad to hear of someone’s passing.  He was a man that devoted his life to a theological ideal and today he gets to realize the fruits of his labor.  I just hope God doesn’t turn out to be a woman, a gay, a minority, or a democrat…..

or a teletubby.

Almost forgot the teletubby!!!

[Dayhiker]

Joran laughs at the Aruba boycott, disses Dutch daily life in Holland, calls Freddy a liar, points the finger at the Kalpoes. Who hasn't he pissed off yet?

That gets me too!  You would think anger alone would get some of these people talking even if it was anonymously.

It is this arrogance that will prove to be their downfall. When he fled Aruba he may have inadvertently done the investigation a big favor because he couldn't keep mouths Aruban peoples' shut from Holland. Shunned his friends in the process.