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Bringing this over from the previous thread in case anyone missed it:

A new cage!     ::DancingSantaMonkey1::    ::ElfMonkey::    ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091209,0,5067054.story
Casey Anthony case: State Attorney's Office releases 40 pages of evidence
The State Attorney's Office will release discovery in the Casey Anthony case this afternoon.

By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel

1:38 p.m. EST, December 9, 2009

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The State Attorney's Office released more documents in the Casey Anthony case this afternoon.

The state released 40 pages this afternoon, adding to the more than 13,000 pages that have already been made public, a spokeswoman for the State Attorney's Office said. The evidence is being made public in response to a public records request made by the Orlando Sentinel.

Reporters are reading over the documents.

Casey Anthony, 23, is awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. The toddler was missing for 31 days before Casey Anthony reported it to authorities.

Casey Anthony told Orange County Sheriff's Office a nanny named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez kidnapped her daughter. Deputies determined that person does not exist.

Check back for updates.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091209,0,5067054.story

Casey Anthony case: State Attorney's Office releases 40 pages of evidence

1:38 p.m. EST, December 9, 2009

   


The State Attorney's Office released more documents in the Casey Anthony case this afternoon.

The state released 40 pages this afternoon, adding to the more than 13,000 pages that have already been made public, a spokeswoman for the State Attorney's Office said. The evidence is being made public in response to a public records request made by the Orlando Sentinel.

Reporters are reading over the documents.

Casey Anthony, 23, is awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. The toddler was missing for 31 days before Casey Anthony reported it to authorities.

Casey Anthony told Orange County Sheriff's Office a nanny named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez kidnapped her daughter. Deputies determined that person does not exist.

Check back for updates.

They left me too Nut.   ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate::

Trimm!

Cece      ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::MonkeyGavel::

12/09/2009 Transaction Assessment 5.00
12/09/2009 Counter Payment Receipt # CR-2009-05953 MEDIA (5.00)

Any monkeys remember the inmate early on that gave a short interview stating that KC told him her BF had Caylee?? could this be the same guy and can it be proven if so in order to debunk his crazy statements?

Hey Nut, you musta been  :smt015.  I gave the thread lock warning and even posted a  ::HelloKitty:: to you after that.   :smt102 :smt117 ::MonkeyViolin:: ::bee:: ::lookie::

awww Muffy, you look absolutely adorable!!!

I do remember, and maybe that is the same guy  ::MonkeyEek::

That's what I'm thinking.

Uh huh... ::snowmanlaugh:: 

Thank you Searching.   ::ElfMonkey::

I hate thread chages...darn it I am alawys behind ::MonkeyJnBox::

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The crazies are crawling outta the woodwork....
You got that right Sunny - this guy is clearly wacked.  Is this the guy who is in jail?  I recall another guy writing a letter that Casey is innocent.
That's what I was remembering as well Mission, some guy in jail writing that she was innocent.

That was Jerry Jackson

http://www.wftv.com/news/20669869/detail.html


Sunny this is the guy that wrote the first letter.

Thanks to all.......!!

Letters from Jerry Jackson

 ::DancingSantaMonkey1::  Hey Muffy. 

One of the new images released
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091209,0,5067054.story

Thank you Muffy  ::MonkeyKiss::

They are changing images on the article to make it less painful to wait for the docs?  LOL

Close up of Caylee's face to see under her right eye.

7/30/08: RAW VIDEO: Inmate Says Casey Anthony Told Him Boyfriend Has Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/v/EAQwx5Z2Ff8&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Inmates have a lot of time on their hands.............kc's a pin up girl for prisoners   ::MonkeyGavel::

I remember that. 

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/120909-Casey-Anthony
New Casey Anthony case discovery released

Updated: Wednesday, 09 Dec 2009, 2:01 PM EST
Published : Wednesday, 09 Dec 2009, 6:42 AM EST

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - New discovery documents in the case against Casey Anthony were released on Wednesday. They include never before seen pictures of Casey and Caylee together.
Documents here.  http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/120909anthony/indexGallery.htm
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::MonkeyDevil:: In more ways than one. The boys may like her ON the wall but the Bertha's will be the one's to put her IN the wall!  ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

This picture is so sad.  The shirt Caylee is wearing is the one found with the remains and there is clearly a bruise/spot under Caylee's eye.  There is someone standing in the doorway to the right of the TV, you can see their sneaker and leg.   Based on the E-guitar , is this Richardo's?

Included among the documents is a series of black and white copies of pictures of Casey Anthony and Caylee Anthony, who is wearing a T-shirt that reads "Big Trouble Comes In Small Packages." Fragments of a child size T-shirt with the same words were found in the area where Caylee's remains were located.

Also included is a letter to the State Attorney's Office that details information about water depths in the area where Caylee's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091209,0,5067054.story

OMG see the shirt Caylee is wearing?

READ IT: Casey Anthony case evidence released on Dec. 9, 2009
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-anthony-evidence-1-120909,0,4879608.acrobat

READ IT: Casey Anthony case evidence released on Dec. 9, 2009
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-anthony-evidence-2-120909,0,5403897.acrobat

READ IT: Casey Anthony case evidence released on Dec. 9, 2009
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-anthony-evidence-3-120909,0,5928186.acrobat

READ IT: Casey Anthony case evidence released on Dec. 9, 2009
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-anthony-evidence-4-120909,0,6452475.acrobat

I am thinking it is at Ricardo's but am I looking at the photo wrong?  It looks like maybe that is her hair but I may not be seeing it right.... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Bertha n Skanky sittin in a tree....lalalalalalalalala  Party girl will find out partying prisonstyle is  waay not fun.  ::Baseball::

Casey Anthony and Caylee Marie Anthony pictures released Dec. 9, 2009 These black and white images of Casey Anthony with daughter Caylee Marie Anthony were released as part of 40 pages of evidence by the State Attorney's Office on Dec. 9, 2009.
Image 1 of 6

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-anthony-case-evidence-pictures-120909,0,6454542.photogallery

Yes it is and you're right about that shirt!!!!!!!!-heartbreaking to see here so close to Christmas, and know she will never have another one ::MonkeyMad::

Water Depth Reports Released In Case Against Casey
ORLANDO -- The State Attorney’s Office has just released new documents in the Case Against Casey.

Right now, News 13 is pouring through the files.

It appears that there are about 40 pages released, including new photos that have been added into evidence in the case.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/12/9/new_photos_water_depth_reports_released_in_case_against_casey.html

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I think it is a wisp of her hair too Mission

Thanks Northern.......that's the one I have been waiting on!!!!

Sad.... The fact of that being the same shirt she was wearing when she was killed and thrown away like trash and no date on these photos, we may be looking at the very last photos taken of Caylee right befor she was killed.

thanks NR

Well the defense is going to have a very difficult time trying to say there was no water that's for sure......

Agreed!!!!! Also, remember that teenager boy who got video from around the search date if not exactly on it or after, it showed water all over the recovery site.

They certainly are - I am a happy camper after reading that report after all these months of controversy about the water levels.

http://www.wesh.com/news/21909285/detail.html
New Photos Among Casey Evidence Released

POSTED: 2:16 pm EST December 9, 2009
UPDATED: 2:40 pm EST December 9, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors released more documents and new photos on Wednesday in the case against Casey Anthony.

The documents are the latest in thousands of pages of documents released since Anthony was charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of her daughter, Caylee.
New Photos  javascript:popUp('/slideshow/news/20728570/detail.html','width=1024,height=750,top=0,left=0,scrollbars');
The documents include several photos of Anthony and Caylee as well as a report on water depths in the area where Caylee's remains were found in December 2008.

Also amid the documents is a television script discussing a jail phone call from Anthony to her brother, Lee, regarding Zenaida Gonzalez, who is the nanny Anthony maintains kidnapped Caylee.

Anthony is in Orange County Jail awaiting trial in 2010. Prosecutors have said they will seek the death penalty.

WESH 2 News is reviewing the documents and will post them as soon as possible.

Refresh your browser or check back for details.
 Video

    * Video: Source: Forensic Trail To Connect Anthony To Remains
http://www.wesh.com/video/21715134/index.html

Yep!  it clearly states when the area was underwater and when it wasn't....but I am not technical enough to determine how much surface water etc was actually at the area at other times.....

Deposits made to Caseys jail account.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-10/49846331.pdf

TV?  I thought it was her computer...

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http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21909300/detail.html
New Casey Anthony Photos, Docs Released

POSTED: Wednesday, December 9, 2009
UPDATED: 2:42 pm EST December 9, 2009

Pictures released today.....

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/PIX%20released%20Dec%209%202009/

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/PIX%20released%20Dec%209%202009/12-9-20092-21-32PM.png)

I am also happy this all came out the day before court.  Nothing like rattling a few defense  and grieving family members before they have to get on the stand tomorrow .    ::MonkeyGavel::   ::MonkeyGavel::

No time for a media blitz either for Lyon , LKB and Bobo. 

Me either which is why I loved the fact that teen boy had that video too ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Too bad they don't have a new one that shows the deposit George put in before the cruise.  Wonder where her account is sitting now. 

Thanks you Trimm and everyone providing links to the docs!

Thanks trim...this is an additional month to the one I got...it looks like Michael Kelly is still making his 50.00 a month donation after having missed a couple months.....

Michael Kelley seems to be a frequent contributor. As well as Andrea Somers.

 ::MonkeyEek::

I agree..I was sure hoping it was there.....Ga had been making approx 100.00 deposit monthly or near monthly...then he made th $50.00 one before the cruise...hey he needs gambling money ya know!!

Hello Monkeys

It is so heart breaking seeing little Caylee in that shirt so very sad.

Blink has a wonderful report all about this shirt
remember that a picture was sold to the Globe of Caylee wearing this shirt even before her little remains were found.

Monkey hugs

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/10/20/caseycaylee-anthony-case-caylee-pic-in-the-big-trouble-t-sold-to-the-globe-before-remains-found/

Thank you Trimm  ::MonkeyKiss::

was it just me or did anyone else notice there was andrew somers and andrea somers... typo maybe?

My guess is typo.

Andrea Somers appears as Andre sometimes and Michael Kelley appears as Michael Kelle also.

Casey Anthony case: State Attorney's Office releases 40 pages of evidence
The State Attorney's Office released more reports, photos in the Casey Anthony case this afternoon.

The State Attorney's Office released more documents in the Casey Anthony case this afternoon.

The state released 40 pages, adding to the more than 12,000 pages that have already been made public.

Included among the documents is a series of black and white copies of pictures of Casey Anthony and her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Marie Anthony, who is wearing a T-shirt with the phrase: "Big Trouble Comes In Small Packages." Fragments of a child size T-shirt with the same words were found in the area where Caylee's remains were located.

It's unclear when or where the photographs were taken. The mother and daughter are sitting on a sofa.

Also released:

- An Orange County Sheriff's Office forensics report from October, about the search for fingerprints on items found in the garbage bag investigators seized from the trunk of Casey Anthony's Pontiac. The report said the investigator had zero results from the dozens of items, ranging from empty soda cans to air freshener sheets.

- A letter to the State Attorney's Office that details information about water depths in the area where Caylee's remains were found.

- An employee wage sheet from Event Imaging Solutions for Casey Anthony from 2004 to 2006.

The evidence is being made public in response to a public records request made by the Orlando Sentinel.

Casey Anthony, 23, is awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge Caylee's death. The toddler was missing for about a month before her family called police in July 2008.

Caylee's remains were found a year ago this week scattered in woods just blocks away from the Anthony family home in the Lee Vista area.

Casey Anthony told investigators a nanny named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez kidnapped her daughter. Detectives determined that person does not exist.

Check back for updates.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091209,0,5067054.story

No prints on garbage, how can that be?

ddex, I'm sitting here shaking my head wondering the same thing, no prints  ::MonkeyShocked::

Me too.   Friday will be interesting.

Most of Documents released today....still working on them

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/Doc%20Dump%20Dec%209%202009/

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Casey's wages show not working since 1st Quarter 2006 (I'm shocked!) ::MonkeyJnBox::

I'm thinking surgical gloves probably.

::MonkeyTongue::

I could imagine they wore gloves, but not to find any prints at all is weird and sounds so premeditated ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes ... shocking.    ::MonkeyHaHa::

I know it does seem odd that none were found. But I remember here on SM there was talk about maybe casey sprayed the trunk and little Caylee with bug spray maybe she sprayed inside the bags as well and the spray kind of melted them away.
Monkey hugs

It's all so cold-blooded ... it's hard to take.   That child didn't stand a chance.

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/12/new-pictures-of-casey-and-cayl.html
WDBO Local News      
New pictures of Casey and Caylee Anthony released
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ December 9, 2009 3:31 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
The state attorneys office has released 40 pages of new documents in the Casey Anthony case. They include new pictures of Caylee Anthony and her mother.
The pictures show the slain toddler and her mother playing the video game Guitar Hero. Caylee is wearing a shirt that says "big trouble comes in small packages." Investigators found fragments of an identical shirt along with Caylee's remains.

The documents show Casey's work history at a company called Event Imaging Solutions between 2004 and 2006. The records show she made about $20,000 during that period.

An analysis of water levels in the woods where Caylee's remains were discovered concluded that the area was not inundated with water for most of the period between June 16, 2008 to December 11, 2008. But the analysis did determine that the area was submerged between August 18, 2008 and August 28, 2008.

Check back for updates.

No-not with that family she sure didn't...........We are seeing way too many cases like that lately and it makes me sick:(

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-anthony-evidence-3-120909,0,5928186.acrobat

Wondering why this was released.  Could it be about the duct tape and the posters george put up at the Publics Store, a match maybe?  ::MonkeyWink::

I think so:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image1107-1.png)

I think so too Brandi.   ::MonkeyCool::

Ok Monkeys help me out but if I am reading this right I take it that the coke can which is Article 1, Item H-51976 is not listed in the list of items where no visual latent could be seen.  It then states that the coke can (which is Article 1, Item H-51976) was secured and sent to the Evidence Section and taken into custody by Mr. Terry Gorman. Hmmmm I am taking this to mean that possible prints were on that coke can?

Mission,I wondered the same thing. 

Hey that's the pix on the globe. So, the dirtbag was not wearing the party-down-blue-dress in the cropped Globe pix

Nice gams or gam CC

That could be, but with all that garbage, it just seems there should be more fingerprints.

Oops, sorry, got in the quote box again.^^^^  j

::ElfMonkey::

I agree - this report is confusing to me. I wish we knew how to interpret the findings.  ::MonkeyConfused::

That could be, some liquid could have spilled in the garbage bag, and that is why there is no prints.

Glad to know I am not the only one who does that.  ::MonkeyTongue:: You make a good point - perhaps the coke can had a perfect print on it and the other items were messed up.

Or prints all on top of prints or even with everything being scraped and mushed together in the bag, they got all rubbed off or the pattern got broken.??

Two of the items from the site that I am hoping may trace back to the Anthony's back yard are listed, one I saw before is black plastic called weed barrier.  There is also mention of a plant tag that I did not notice before.  I also believe that I saw mention of coffin flies both in the trunk and at the sight that match?

Wouldn't that be great? Hoping so!
BBL

I believe I may have been wrong about the flies.  I might have heard that on Kealing's video

Maybe there's DNA ...

From this I deduce that one method of fingerprinting produced no prints, but that another tech took it for additional testing. Like they knew there HAD to be a print on a Coke can.

Nice to see you, AKMOM.  ::santawink::

Thank you everyone for the links to the documents and pictures today.  ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Seeing those pictures of Caylee in the little pink shirt is making me crazy.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Didn't Spindy say that she had never seen a shirt like that? If the pictures were not taken on the day KC murdered her, then she would have had to wash it. I can't believe that Spindy didn't know she had a shirt like that. I guess that was another Spindyism.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks Fanny, I've been reading without signing in lately....I'm usually either unheard or laughed at, but just had to talk today. :2redman:

And I can't see any way that the A's,, at least Cindy, didn't know she wasn't working. Just like I find it difficult to believe she, Cindy believed the Nanny story.....what in the hell was happening those 2 years?

 :smt056 I understand.

That shirt gives me chills.  I did not see where the pictures came from?  There were undeveloped disposable cameras in several places: garage, crime scene(may be unrelated), in the Anthony home.  Was there one in a vehicle?  Interesting we have not seen anything for sure from them?????

Hi akmom  ::HelloKitty::  It's good to "see' you.   ::ElfMonkey::

I got sidetracked and decided to go back and start at the beginning......the first picture looks like a bed of some kind...perhaps where Caylee slept when they stayed at Ricardo's and the others looks like she is in pj's. Which leads me to believe Caylee slept in this outfit...the first being when she got up or shortly thereafter as the bed is still there. The others look like the night before....cups on the coffee table etc. Not that any other than makes any difference I guess.....

  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I didn't realize Cindy said Caylee didn't have a shirt like that. She is a lying ho just like her daughter. I looked at the documents at work today, but is there any indication of a date of those pictures or where they came from (camera/computer/cell phone)? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

akmom...sometimes you have to shout....it doesn't mean you are being ignored, sometimes the conversation is moving very fast. And I can't imagine anyone laughing at you..perhaps with you...but not at ya!!

I was thinking they may have come from Ricardo......didn't he sell one of these pictures to the rag, perhaps the Globe,  even before Caylee was found?

Thanks Muffy and Fanny ::ElfMonkey:: ::MonkeyJustice:: For all of our kids

Really??

  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I didn't realize Cindy said Caylee didn't have a shirt like that. She is a lying ho just like her daughter. I looked at the documents at work today, but is there any indication of a date of those pictures or where they came from (camera/computer/cell phone)? TIA JSM  ::MonkeyBike::
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So far I don't remember seeing anything about the date the photos were taken or exactly where they came from....I THINK they might have been obtained from Ricardo.

meaning???

LOL, I will try to shout louder, on occasion Oh, heads up JFM is talking Brittany and Morgan!!!!!

I mean JVM coming up after this break

Now I am lost

there ya go...please tell us what is said!!

IT's OK....you aren't lost.... ::snowmanlaugh::

Britanee's mom says no evidence that the young man who had been mentioned is involved.  They are going to be looking in an area around and in a river for her.  Gil Harrington is on a call says that Morgan's timeline ends at 9:30 and someone has to know something

Sorry, got in your quote box.... ::MonkeyTongue::

uummmmm thanks......I agree...someone has to know something.

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: i I'd share my quote box with you anytime!!

Very disappointing just a light once over on several missing nothing major on JVM, looks like NG is rehashing Tiger W, ugh

Thanks Sunny  ::bee::

Just saw this on  WS...re: the motion to be seated in front

I went down and got that today (along with a couple others). This is a request for Bill Shaeffer, who had some surgery in October and is still a little disabled, to sit up front so he can cover the hearing for WFTV.

Thanks Sunny  ::MonkeyCool::

Yeah, all this Tiger rehashing is reminding me of the over airing of Octomom stories. 

Thanks......I don't think I could stomach listening to NG re: Tiger

LOL...the least he could have done was tell us so we wouldn't have had to guess all day long!  LOL

Hi TR!  LOL  I agree.....

Really, all the possible scenarios, and it was that. I would not have guessed that.

I just want to say I always read your posts and find them informative and interesting.

Please post whenever you have something to say!

me neither...I am not a gambler..but I would have bet it was for BC...and LOST. See why I don't gamble! ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21913645/detail.html            Interesting, a protective order for Joseph Jordan

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21913703/detail.html

State's Motion filed today......2nd Motion to Provide Reciprocal Discovery

5. Neither motion was filed with a list of the names and addresses of witnesses as required by Florida Rule of Criminal Procedure 3.220(d)(1)(A). Instead, upon inquiry, the undersigned was informed initially via email from Andrea Lyon on Friday, November 20, 2009 that the "potential witnesses should be obvious from the filing", and then ultimately an email was received from Jose Baez on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 with "witness
contact information" listing lawyers for Crystal & Brandon Sparks (in Washington DC), Jill Kerley (in Knoxville, TN), and Laura Buchanan (in Woodbridge, NJ). At that point, the undersigned made a specific request for a formal witness list with current addresses as required by the Rule and was advised that the defense feels they have no "further obligation to file anything" and" ... the witnesses do not want the media harassing them in
the meantime."



http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21913645/detail.html

State's Motion Protective Order Regarding Recording Of Interview with Joseph Jordan

These are must reads.....would someone please post them here as they are in PDF's

LOL....I was jsut reading both motions 

I posted the one about Joseph Jordan, but I didn't see the other one.

I didn't see the other motion.

Joy has a new video....I guess she's going to be on Geraldo on Sunday.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  I'm having puter issues so I can't C/P but the title of it is
joyangels4caylee's webcam recorded Video-Dec. 7, 2009, 02:15 PM

DAMN...since this was an illegal taping it can't be used.....as I am reading this...but it certainly won't stop him from being a witness...surly if I am reading correctly (and it's late for me) looks like JB done got himself in a bit of a jam!!

I posted the link just after you did....I was reding them before posting them

Thanks.....I hate that YOU are having computer problems....I have had them all day but I am sure it's due to 50mph winds gusts.

Thanks Brandi, sorry I missed you, I was checking on our other kids' forums

Oh great, now why would she be on Geraldo? I saw that new video, and I just figured she was being delusional.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGBvaYj786E

I hope I did this right

I just watched it.....shows how low Geraldo will go if in fact she is going to be on Geraldo's.

Night Monks.....TTYL

Good night to you Sunny, and any other monkeys that are heading out to the bunkey.  Stay warm!  I'm staying up for a couple hours more.  Once I get under the electric blanket, I won't be out till morning...

So far I don't remember seeing anything about the date the photos were taken or exactly where they came from....I THINK they might have been obtained from Ricardo.
[/quote] Thanks Sunny I am way behind and frozen. I would have thought that Ricardo would have sold all photos to the tabloids. One to the Globe, one to NE, etc. Like I said I am behind, but I was thinking maybe he took them and KC downloaded them to her computer and that is where LE found the pics.

So, if I am reading this correctly, Joe Jordan told Baez different info than what he told the prosecution??  But the prosecution knows this because they were told by JJ because to listen to the recording would be against the law.  Does this mean JJ deliberately mislead Baez and Co??  Am I getting this right, somebody let me know if I am not getting this straight.

On the other filing, obviously, as usual, Baez has once again gotten nothing right in anything he has done in regards to the motions, etc, correct????

Why is Joy showing the package from Foxnews on that video? I am behind and about to go to bed, but H*lls bells it could be a FoxNews Tshirt she ordered for herself. Sorry I don't have cable so I don't know what she is talking about, plus I don't understand a word she says.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I will go back again and watch it. Thanks Sunny for posting the youtube. I am majorly confused by it.

Thanks, she really needs different medication  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm confused, but it seems that way. I have to go read that motion again.

 ::MonkeyCool:: Please ignore my previous post about Joy, I now kinda heard what she said. She got something from the Geraldo Rivera show, she may show it, she may not?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

It was a squishy envelope, not something someone would send a VCR/DVD tape to her. Sorry for the questions, but that crazy broad gets on my nerves.

Thanks Sunny I am way behind and frozen. I would have thought that Ricardo would have sold all photos to the tabloids. One to the Globe, one to NE, etc. Like I said I am behind, but I was thinking maybe he took them and KC downloaded them to her computer and that is where LE found the pics.
[/quote] STUPID LAPTOP, sorry I really royally screwed up this post.

I did it again screwing up posts. I am going back to my desktop.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I think you were right before, she is delusional and needs meds.  I ALMOST feel sorry for her, or would if she had not inserted herself in this case.

nite monkeys

ME TOO!!
I am so sick of all the lying ho bags starting with casey!!! cindy!! joywrongway!!

I cannot believe that there were no finger prints on anythings yall think that goergie and cindy cleaned out all the prints  while they had the car?
they must be thinking that this is a big plus for the defense!!
whats going on here?

Hi loca.  It's very mysterious.  How could everything be without fingerprints?  George and Cindy might have cleaned everything up, but wouldn't they just throw the trash away?  Casey isn't smart enough to clean it up, not to mention too lazy, but I think she would have just thrown the stuff away too.  Very puzzling.

I truly think that if Cindy knew that Caylee was dead after they picked up the car, she wouldn't have called 911.  I think they would have just concocted some kind of story abut Caylee being with relatives or something and just go on with their lives without little "Snot nose."  I do think though that she discovered that night that Caylee had been murdered by Casey and the cover up began, but the bag of trash had been thrown into the dumpster earlier at the tow yard, so they didn't have access to it.

HI AK Mom.  I've always loved your monkey with the snow on its head.  Joy Wray is a nut.  Actually, I couldn't understand anything she said with her squeaky voice.  My hearing in the higher ranges is just about shot.  But just looking at her I can only say, if she is the best the defense has, then they are in more trouble than I thought.

 ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

I need to Christmatize my avatar. The dancing monkey in the Santa hat will have to do for now!

Anyway, the photos of Casey and Caylee (in the "big trouble" shirt) that were released today, although we've sleuthed some of them out previously, FINALLY gave me an "A-ha!" moment!

Suddenly, it all makes sense to me now:

#1 -- The June 9th date that Casey and her clan originally claimed Caylee went missing.

#2 -- Why Cindy freaked when the police were going to verify with her father that it was actually the *June 15th* date that she visited him with Caylee (last time Caylee seen by anyone outside the family).

#3 -- The "They haven't even found her clothes yet" comment that Casey made when LP bonded her out of jail.

#4 -- The striped shorts Caylee was found with that never would have fit her when she died. They were 18 months (ie, which would normally fit a child 1.5 years old--sometimes younger!), and she was almost 3!

Here's what I am thinking: If you go back to all the original interviews with Ricardo, Amy, etc, June 9th is the last date that Casey and Caylee stayed at Ricardo's apartment. Ricardo says it himself. Amy says that Casey actually left her parents' home with Caylee that week!

And the "big trouble" shirt photos look like they were taken in Ricardo's apartment. If you compare them to other photos taken in his apartment, you can tell by the painting on the wall, the drapes, and the look of the couch that it's the same apartment.

Note that Caylee was found with some items that Cindy admitted in her prosecution deposition would have been kept in the Anthony garage: black bags, laundry bag, etc. She was also found with those shorts that would not have fit her.

Also remember the *huge* time delay between the finding of Casey's car at the towyard and the time the police were actually notified about a missing Caylee! Remember that Cindy actually went back to work in between these events!

Now remember that Cindy admitted to receiving money for selling photos of Caylee in a deposition, and we never actually heard specifically WHICH photos these were.

OK, put it all together, and what do you get?

Well, on the day that Casey's car was picked up at the towyard, Caylee's body may have still been in the trunk, under the trunk liner and/or in the spare wheel well, and Cindy, George, and the rest of the clan (perhaps even Casey herself) DEFINITELY had time to find and remove her if she was there. Think about it: They had enough time for Cindy to wash and clean items from the car and even to go back to work!

I would not put it past one of them to find out what Casey actually did, remove Caylee, get rid of the clothes Caylee was ACTUALLY wearing at the time when Casey killed her, get a story together with Casey about the last time Caylee was at Ricardo's in order to frame him, package Caylee up with the shirt she was wearing at THAT time (as evidenced by the photos) in items from the garage where the car was parked at that moment (including black bag, laundry bag), throw the shorts in just because they were not something Caylee would have been wearing when last alive, and then toss Caylee into a place that is "close to home" and "familiar to us -- to our family" (Casey's own words to Lee in one of the jail visits -- ie, "Check places locally, Lee --- places familiar to us, to our family").

Remember how many times Cindy kept telling LE that Ricardo's apartment was "Zanny's" apartment? I would not be surprised if Casey gave or showed Cindy the photos of Caylee at Ricardo's apartment, and together they hatched the whole coverup story that Caylee was last seen on June 9, ie, at Ricardo's. Then later Cindy went and sold those photos to the Globe, knowing that Caylee was out there lying in the woods in that same "big trouble" shirt and orchestrating a way to have her be found when she felt the time was right! I really believe Cindy was trying to tie Ricardo to Caylee's death. I would not put anything past her. She is like a rabid fox when it comes to protecting her princess daughter Casey.

We shall see, but in my mind, this seems to make sense. Why else would the photos appear in the Globe before Caylee was found in that very same shirt? I feel it was deliberate. And I don't think it was Ricardo who sold them. I think Casey had the photos in her possession and then Cindy got them. One of the tabloids called them "family photos" -- which tells me they came from the family. I will have to find the link for that, but I definitely read that a few times.

Well, sorry for the rambling post, but I just wanted to throw this out there.

Geraldo is such  tabloid trash. He is all about the sensationalism. Doesn't matter whether it's true or if it hurts others. Joy will get about 3 seconds of talk time while whorealdo spins the show to look like she's got explosive photos that prove Caylee wasn't in the area. It's just like the way the Scheme Team went on the media blitz to blatantly accuse Kronk. They didn't really have anything but the promos and suggestive innuendos are what makes the tv execs drool.
Whorealdo is a tool, bozo is his pal, all this is stupid. If Joy Wray is going to be the defense's smoking gun it should be revised to say she's their smoking bong. One would have to have been smoking weed to take her seriously.        JMHO

Casey had 31 days to dissapear all the fingerprints..I am pretty sure that she bought new baby stuff and start planing around cayles body...and the real clothe that cayleee wore that days are gone...burned somewhere..that is the reason that George remember very good what caylee wore the last day he saw her alive....because he knew that Casey change everything around caylee without fingerprints...and I remember that Cindy was very direct that Caylee blanket was missed....maybe she knew that Casey bought a new blanket without fingerprints to replace the real one.
...or maybe the water on the vacant lot cleaned the fingerprints ::MonkeyMad::

great post RMCALO.  All that you said really has the Anthony way of covering up the truth and denial all over it. I've always wondered about the how and why of being "confused" about the June9 vs 15. Your idea could explain it.  I'm not sure if it was ever determined who sold the photos of Caylee in this shirt. I know Blink had an article about it, I'll have to reread it BUT if it was Cindy.......wow, that would be a real bombshell.

Very well thought out, it would also connect  the chloroform found in the trunk to ricardos myspace chloroform pictureon ricardos computer.  i think Casey was gonna pin it on Ricardo it looks.

Hi RMCALO!   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

I've left you a post here:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6421.msg1004182#msg1004182     ::MonkeyWink::

I'm so glad to see the water level study. IMO, it should put an end to any serious discussion the defense might bring as to whether the site where Caylee was found was searched while Tim was there. Tim made the right call when he said he did not allow a search there because he was afraid of damaging evidence due to the water. The pictures show a retention pond 500ft from where the body was discovered and the water level fluctuates from empty to full. Take a look at the levels compared to the search dates:

http://www.kljb.com/dpp/news/dpgo-120909-Casey-Anthony1260393909446
New Casey Anthony case discovery released

Updated: Wednesday, 09 Dec 2009, 10:46 PM CST
Published : Wednesday, 09 Dec 2009, 5:42 AM CST

      By Holly Bristow
      FOX 35 Ne
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - New discovery documents in the case against  Casey Anthony were released on Wednesday. They include never before seen pictures of Casey and Caylee together.

Click here to see the documents>>>

This comes a day after new motions were filed. Prosecutors filed to keep the check fraud charges against Anthony. Her defense team wants them dismissed.

Among the pictures are six photos never seen before, which could prove significant in the case. They are of 2-year-old Caylee and Casey. Comparing these photos to previously-released ones, they appear more recent. Caylee's hair is long, while Casey's hair is short. It appears as though Casey is playing the video game, "Guitar Hero," and joined by her daughter.

But it's likely prosecutors will focus on the words written on Caylee Anthony's shirt, "Big Trouble Comes In Small Packages," which could link to evidence found at the crime scene on Suburban Drive next to little Caylee's remains almost one year ago.

The mom-and-daughter photos were not taken at the Anthony home. The big question is, where were they taken and when?

Back to the crime scene, investigators recently asked for a University of Florida expert to study water levels in the area near Suburban Drive. Dr. James Jawitz and his hydrology team installed devices in the ground to measure water levels. They compared daily water levels to those in the little Econ River and found a direct correlation between locations. He used that information, along with daily records taken in the summer of 2008.
According to Dr. Jawitz's study, the low-lying area where Caylee's body was found, was anywhere between six inches to a foot-and-a-half underwater around the time detectives believe someone dumped little Caylee's body.

One other interesting tidbit of information includes tests conducted by investigators on pieces of trash found in Casey Anthony's trunk. They dusted all of it for fingerprints, but found nothing.

Casey Anthony, 23, has pleaded not guilty on charges that she killed her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie, claiming a baby sitter kidnapped her toddler. Caylee was last seen in June 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in the woods near the family's home in December 2008.

 

FOX 35's Nick Fokianos contributed to this report

http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=1366
Report: More evidence released in Casey Anthony case (photos, slideshow)
Posted by Melissa Finlay On December - 9 - 2009
The State Attorney’s Office has released an additional 40 pages of evidence in the Casey Anthony case. There are more than 12,000 documents currently released. Some of the documents released include a number of black and white photos of Casey and her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

Other released documents include a forensics report from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office that focused on the fingerprint evidence. The report states that no fingerprint evidence was retrieved from any of the items found in the crime scene area (where Caylee’s body was found).

Other information released includes employee records for Casey when she was employed at Event Imaging Solutions throughout the years 2004-2006. And a letter that was addressed to the State Attorney’s Office regarding water levels in the crime scene area, where Caylee was found.

The information was released due to a public records request made by the Orlando Sentinel.

In one of the photos, Caylee is seen wearing a tee-shirt with lettering that reads “Big trouble comes in small packages.” The remains of a similar tee-shirt were found at the crime scene, indicating it was the same shirt as seen in the photo.
Photos at link.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/12/9/new_photos_water_depth_reports_released_in_case_against_casey.html
 Water Depth Reports Released In Case Against Casey
Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:09:33 AM

Reported by Adam Longo and Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- The State Attorney’s Office has just released new documents in the Case Against Casey.

Right now, News 13 is pouring through the files.

It appears that there are about 40 pages released, including new photos that have been added into evidence in the case.
Among the items released is a water depth report from the location where the body of Caylee Anthony was discovered.

Also released were some photos of Caylee and Casey Anthony playing the guitar.

A third document is wage information for the time that Casey Anthony worked at Event Imaging Solutions, Inc.

This adds to the over 10,000 pages already made public.

Casey Anthony, 23, is awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. The toddler was missing for 31 days before Casey Anthony reported it to authorities.
Calls For Help

Did anyone hear or see someone dump Caylee Anthony's body in a wooded area less than a mile from where she lived?
   
Orlando police responded to two calls from neighbors near the Anthony home.

The callers told police they heard calls for help from the wooded area where Caylee's remains were later found.
   
One neighbor described the call "as an adolescent voice calling for help, and that the calls for help sounded to her to be very stressed and genuine."
   
A police dog was called out, but found nothing.
A teacher at nearby Hidden Oaks Elementary School said an autistic child was yelling around that time but not the word "help."   
   
Officers said they did not go into the wooded area because of thick vegetation and that the ground was very wet and some parts covered in deep water.
   
Casey Anthony was indicted by the grand jury four days after these calls were made.

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

40 pages released today – Zero fingerprints found
December 9, 2009 · 214 Comments

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/12/10/did_someone_hear_caylee_anthony39s_body_being_dumped.html
 Did Someone Hear Caylee Anthony's Body Being Dumped?
Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:37:32 AM
ORLANDO -- Did anyone hear or see someone dump Caylee Anthony's body in a wooded area less than a mile from where she lived?

Documents show that on Oct. 9, Orlando police responded to two separate calls from neighbors near the Anthony home.

The callers told police they heard calls for help from the wooded area where later Caylee's remains were found.

One neighbor described the call "as an adolescent voice calling for help, and that the calls for help sounded to her to be very stressed and genuine."
Among the items released is a water depth report from the location where the body of Caylee Anthony was discovered.

A police dog was called out but found nothing.

A teacher at nearby Hidden Oaks Elementary School said an austistic child was yelling around that time but not the word "help"   

Officers said they did not go into the wooded area because of thick vegetation and that the ground was very wet -- some parts covered in deep water.

Casey Anthony was indicted by the grand jury four days after these calls were made.
Casey's Defense?

Prosecutors want to know how Casey Anthony will defend herself against charges she killed her child.

The state attorney's office filed a court motion, accusing the defense of being too slow in turning over information they plan to use at trial.

In another motion, prosecutors don't want a defense interview with a former Equusearch volunteer to be used in the case.
More Evidence Released

On Wednesday, prosecutors also released new documents and other evidence.

Among the documents released yesterday were never-before-seen pictures of Anthony and her child, Caylee.

The documents also reveal a 911 call was made near where Caylee's remains were found.

The call was made two months beforehand by someone who claimed to hear a young woman or child yelling for help. But sheriff's deputies who showed up did not find anything.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21909300/detail.html
New Casey Photos, Docs Released
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Daughter's Death

POSTED: Wednesday, December 9, 2009
UPDATED: 6:53 am EST December 10, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- New documents have been released by the state attorney's office as part of the discovery process in the murder case against Casey Anthony.
The first set of documents includes a report from Dr. James W. Jawitz regarding an investigation into the water depth in the wooded area where the body of Casey Anthony's daughter, Caylee Anthony, was found. The documents also include pictures of the site where the toddler's body was found.

In the report, the University of Florida scientist said, "for most of the entire period from June 16, 2008 to December 11, 2008, (the area) was not inundated."

The man who found Caylee's body on Dec. 11, meter reader Roy Kronk, told investigators he could not reach the area when he initially saw something suspicious in August because it was submerged in water.
In October of the same year, nearby residents reported hearing a child scream "help" in the area near where Caylee's body was later found. The screams were later determined to have come from an autistic child at an elementary school, but police did not go into the woods that October morning because, according to the report, "the ground is very wet and covered in deep water in some areas."
Newly released images show Anthony with Caylee while Caylee is wearing a shirt that says, "Big Trouble Comes In Small Packages."

Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, told prosecutors she did not recall Caylee having such a shirt, but the photos confirm that the toddler did have the same shirt that was found by investigators in the woods near her body.

Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in Caylee's death. The then-2-year-old was reported missing in July 2008 after being missing for one month. Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area near the Anthony family's east Orange County home. Anthony is being held at the Orange County Jail on no bond
Documents at link.

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2009/12/10/casey-anthony-insufficient-funds-part-deux/
Casey Anthony: Insufficient Funds Part Deux
Dec 10th, 2009
by Richard Hornsby.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Me either ... Oh well, too bad,  "high maintenance divas" ... LOL 

Here's a comment from Marinade Dave's blog by none other than Joy W.  It looks to me like she took some info from the published reports and mixed them in with some nutty conjecture.  (And then she "acted" all silly and "baked" them up in a pie.)  I feel so badly for her.  I think she needs some help.

joyangels (joy) // December 9, 2009 at 6:01 pm

Roy says alot of BS! He knows more than he is saying. I know more about him than im saying to. Roy is a dirt bag… How he tied up woman before. Why hasn’t his Dna ever been done. He is the one who found poor caylee.His DNA should of been done that day. Wonder what else that FBI may try to destroy. Justcie4caylee

Good Morning trim and all Monks! Thanks for all the updates. Interesting articles, especially this one. If JB and the motley crew didn't know all this they do now!  LOL

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/Doc%20Dump%20Dec%209%202009/

Cindy had to know kc was not working.   Considering CA was providing $upport for Caylee she would have claimed her as a dependent on income tax. Had kc really been working she would have been entitled to "earned income credit" claiming Caylee as her dependent, and would have recieved more taxes back than she paid in.  Every grandma in this situation knows to allow the parent to claim a child to get this extra money. In my household we did it this way, and used the "xtra refund" towards grandbabies legit childcare costs.  Cindy did EVERYTHING for kc, and I expect filing income tax would be included.
Cindy KNEW kc was not working.

Morning Monka....IMO Joy is seriously ill...I really wonder if the defense really plans on using her as a wintess or are they just using her as a smoke screen?  Just when ya think things can't get more crazy....they do.  I am still baffled that there were no fingerprints on the trash.....but I wonder how the FL weather and the fact that the trash was in the trunk for several weeks would affect fingerprints?

Morning dex...I agree....Cindy knew!!

Good morning, thanks for all the updates. rmcalo excellent post  ::MonkeyCool::

This kinda interesting.
http://www.onin.com/fp/lpfaq.html#how_long_do_fingerprints_last

Good Morning nrcg!! ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

I think she knew also, but preferred to be an ostrich about it.  It feeds into Cindy's martyr complex, ("I'm the only one who does anything around here!") as well as her Control issues, ("Casey is dependent on me and I will make all the decisions or there will be hell to pay!")
If these two positions seem mutually exclusive, I agree.  I think this is where Cindy's mental issues come into play.  She always reminds me of the Red Queen in Alice, "believing in six impossible things before breakfast".  Scary stuff.

Thanks trim, very interesting....

 Fingerprints from crime scenes have been identified on papers, cigarettes, fruit, crumpled aluminum cans, plastic garbage bags, bed sheets, rocks, dead bodies (prints on bodies are usually contaminated prints involving body fluids, lipstick or some other substance transferred via the suspect's fingers), and thousands of other surfaces 

Me, too.  I can't see how there are NO fingerprints on anything.  Maybe that's what will really convict her.  It does smack of cover up.  But Florida weather did accelerate the decomposing process, so maybe it would affect fingerprints also?

This kinda interesting.
http://www.onin.com/fp/lpfaq.html#how_long_do_fingerprints_last
[/quote]
It does say that fingerprints last unless they are exposed to water.
So I guess that explains it.  Sort of.

Back for lurking okay so I know the cage here is smart with all the monkeys we got so someone gotta help me sort this one out..I don't know how I missed it but in the Evidence pictures there's one inside her car with the a purse now we know it's Casey's but the name tag that's pinned to the purse says Chris..Who's is Chris did I miss him/her somewhere in these cast of characters.  Here's the link guys so you can better see what I'm describing.http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/Exhibits%20Evidence/?action=view&current=exhibit17.jpg (http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/Exhibits%20Evidence/?action=view&current=exhibit17.jpg)

It does say that fingerprints last unless they are exposed to water.
So I guess that explains it.  Sort of.
[/quote]

I do think that this sums it all up to WHY there isn't/can't find any fingerprints.  Casey may have "won" on that note *dodging bananas*

Good Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::

Good morning, my head is spinning. Joy maybe going on Geraldo, and no fingerprints, or at least maybe there were fingerprints, but were too smudged to get a result?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Not that I'm a very smart monkey, but IIRC, when Cindy was interviewed by LE, she mentioned that Casey and her "co-workers" liked to switch nametags as a "Joke"...
 ::MonkeyEek::

Oh, and good morning monkeys!  My cyber-nanny kicked me off of SM from work, but our office is closed today due to the storm, and I took a vacation day tomorrow to see the hearing.  Do any of you smart monks know if and where it will be broadcast?

Oh, and the thing with JJ STILL makes me go hmmmmmm.....

 ::MonkeyCool::

It does say that fingerprints last unless they are exposed to water.
So I guess that explains it.  Sort of.
[/quote]

That's what I thought too.

Umm Guess I'm going to have to start to reread the LE transcripts.  Well we all know it was a lie tho cause she hasn't worked at all let alone been able to switch tags..guess that was her so called "Proof" to her parents that she was working.  Have to look at the pic again but it could be as easy for her to use a label maker and put "Friends" names on it at intervals just so it fit her switch as a joke story.

I have to work *Pout* so I'll count on all you monkey's to fill me in when I get home!

Nothing like a snow day  ::MonkeyCool:: I'm going hmmmm also with the JJ thing.

That's what I thought too.
[/quote] So then some liquid most have spilled in the garbage bag?

When his statement first came out, most didn't think there was anything fishy about it, but I just couldn't reconcile his SM postings with the statement.  It just seemed to me that one or the other had to be contrived.  I wish we knew what that audio tape has on it, but I doubt if we'll ever hear... 

So then some liquid most have spilled in the garbage bag?
[/quote]

It does say that fingerprints last unless they are exposed to water.
So I guess that explains it.  Sort of.
[/quote]

Monka, that would explain why there were no fingerprints on what was collected at the remains site, but not the trash in the back of KC's car. IMO 

Oops.  Give me a shove, I jumped into your box!!     ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good catch Row.....glad you aren't in lurk mode anymore!!  I'll bet KC stole this from someone.....she feels she has a right to just take what she wants.

I was asking if the extreme humidity the trash bag was exposed to could have destroyed the prints....

Good Morning Mission  ::ElfMonkey::

But the bag of trash was not exposed to water so far as is known, so that theory works for anything found in the woods with the remains, but not the bag or bags of trash in the trunk.
Also, I am quite in agreement with the Anthonys being capable of finding Caylee's body and disposing of it, but why would Cindy report her missing at all?  If Cindy hadn't called 911 to report she "HAS" been "TAKEN" (I put that in caps and bold because that's how Cindy said it, oddly stressing "has" twice for some reason which I found inexplicably awkward.) If Cindy hadn't called to report Caylee was "TAKEN" none would be the wiser and they could have explained Caylee's absense away,i.e. visiting relatives, with her father, maybe adopted. I just don't think Cindy knew until after she called 911.  However, George IMO is capable of helping Casey place in the woods or doing whatever it took to save his "Georgous" while keeping it a secret from Cindy. I would not be at all surprised if he had seen Caylee's body in the trunk with the gas cans on 6/24 and helped Casey place her in the woods.  George wasn't with Cindy when she called 911.  IMO had he been, and if he had helped Casey, he would have told her the story so that  no one would have called the police.

Welcome to the Spinning Head Club!! ::MonkeyConfused::

Irish, thanks for the reminder...I don't recall reading this, but I a admit I missed a lot.

Good thought.....and a good possibility!! IMO

Now that could be, or there was some soda maybe left in the can and it spilled out over the other garbage?

Thanks Sunny for remembering me I was the on that lived in Quantico VA when all the testing broke loose all I can say is glad I'm not stationed there anymore and I promise I won't stay away to long right now just been busy here in Camp Lejeune, NC with the Cesar Leauran/Maria Lauterbach trial.  Not to sure if your filmilar with it but if not you can just google it big news here and our Fav NG had featured it.  I'll be attending the trail wish I could be in FL to attend Casey's is anyone in the cage close enough to where when they announce where it will be held that someone could attend.

That makes more sense than being exposed to water.  I stand corrected.   ::ElfMonkey::

No worries!  I'm just wonderin' too!     ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Another great idea...

::MonkeyHaHa:: That woman drives me nuts pardon the pun but seriously she is one huge train wreck.

Excellent point.

Did Someone Hear Caylee’s Body Being Dumped?

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/12/10/did_someone_hear_caylee_anthony39s_body_being_dumped.html

It must be something like this, there is no way I see Casey wiping off fingerprints from that trash bag.

http://www.myfoxwausau.com/dpp/news/dpgo-120909-Casey-Anthony1260393910275
New Casey Anthony case discovery released

Updated: Wednesday, 09 Dec 2009, 10:46 PM CST
Published : Wednesday, 09 Dec 2009, 5:42 AM CST
    *

      By Holly Bristow
      FOX 35 News

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - New discovery documents in the case against Casey Anthony were released on Wednesday. They include never before seen pictures of Casey and Caylee together.

Click here to see the documents>>>

This comes a day after new motions were filed. Prosecutors filed to keep the check fraud charges against Anthony. Her defense team wants them dismissed.

Among the pictures are six photos never seen before, which could prove significant in the case. They are of 2-year-old Caylee and Casey. Comparing these photos to previously-released ones, they appear more recent. Caylee's hair is long, while Casey's hair is short. It appears as though Casey is playing the video game, "Guitar Hero," and joined by her daughter.
But it's likely prosecutors will focus on the words written on Caylee Anthony's shirt, "Big Trouble Comes In Small Packages," which could link to evidence found at the crime scene on Suburban Drive next to little Caylee's remains almost one year ago.

The mom-and-daughter photos were not taken at the Anthony home. The big question is, where were they taken and when?

Back to the crime scene, investigators recently asked for a University of Florida expert to study water levels in the area near Suburban Drive. Dr. James Jawitz and his hydrology team installed devices in the ground to measure water levels. They compared daily water levels to those in the little Econ River and found a direct correlation between locations. He used that information, along with daily records taken in the summer of 2008.

According to Dr. Jawitz's study, the low-lying area where Caylee's body was found, was anywhere between six inches to a foot-and-a-half underwater around the time detectives believe someone dumped little Caylee's body.

One other interesting tidbit of information includes tests conducted by investigators on pieces of trash found in Casey Anthony's trunk. They dusted all of it for fingerprints, but found nothing.

Casey Anthony, 23, has pleaded not guilty on charges that she killed her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie, claiming a baby sitter kidnapped her toddler. Caylee was last seen in June 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in the woods near the family's home in December 2008.

 

FOX 35's Nick Fokianos contributed to this report.

I'm not sure what to make of this, but imo I think it was perhaps the autistic child's screams/loud talk.

Ms Lyon may have issues getting to the court on time tomorrow based on the weather in Chicago.

Darn!     ::MonkeyDevil::

Where is her chat?  I've always had a sick desire to go lurk and appease my sick sense of humor!    ::MonkeyDevil::

I will look forward to your account of the trial....what a tragedy. How can someone do this to another human being is beyond my comprehension.  I can't answer for anyone about attending Casey's trial but I will say there are many of us who wish we could attend. Glad you are back!!

nrcg, I think that is a very real possibility...I am a neat freak so I wash all cans out before putting them in the garbage, but I don't think they would worry about it.

I'm a neat freak with somethings, but I will confess that has happened to me, so I'm just thinking that may be what happened.

I have 3 girls in their twenties.   I can't tell you how many times I have found a half-drank can of soda in my trash can because they get too lazy to pour the rest of the soda down the drain.  just saying...

Good Morning NR and thanks

nrcg, the more I think about it the more probable is seems.....good thinking!!

there you go!  Morning Sassy!!  Before someone thinks I am a total nut...I used give all our cans to a gentleman who sold them to a recycling place. So I washed them out and bagged them for him. He came about once a month to collect them.  He has since passed.

Its seems this article is focusing on a body dump. what i got out of that part of the discovery was there was other officers / witnesses , who saw by land and sky that the land area around the school was covered in water in October.

Hi Sunny.   I remember you telling us about that gentleman.   That was a great story.     

Did she lose her broom?

::MonkeyDevil:: I lurked there once in a while but rumor has it Chatango shut her down so I am not sure where she is chatting now, prolly with herself at home.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I don't know if I can actually update you here about the Laurean trial but if you want my personal email I'll be glad to give it to you so I can update you.  I will have video as well since I have a blackberry but yes your right how can anyone do such a thing to another human is beyond me I'm just glad we have him here in the USA to put him on trial.  I do have photos of inside the house if you want those.  My parents don't live to far away from where the incident to place and now we are here to at Camp Lejuene so I have alot more access anyways don't want to get OFF TOPIC and get chastise so let me know if you want my email.

Hey did any of you see the picture of Casey in the hospital when Caylee was born..I tell ya somehow I missed alot of pics or I just forgot after seeing so many it all became a blur!

aaawwww  what a shame...unless it would postpone the hearing

agree nrcg.....besides Lee said she was a slob and a slob IMO wouldn't take time to clean fingers prints off every piece of garbage ::MonkeyNoNo::

that would be my assumption too....but it also mentions the standing water ::MonkeyWink::

I don't have the link, but I am sure someone will provide it! ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

He was a neat old man......now I save the cans and give them to the school to recycle.

You monks are cracking me up!     ::MonkeyJnBox::

I am pretty sure it would be fine for you to start a thread about the trial..I think many would be interested....I leave a message for you in MUSINGS   

I saw them...the ones with GA in there...but I don't have them....but hopefully someone reading will......eeewwwwwwwwwwww they kinda freak me a bit!!

Hi BB,
I still think cindy called 911 only b/c she was so pissed and frustrated at casey. cindy was not in control of casey anymore, cindy had nothing to hold over casey. casey hadn't lived at home for 31 days. casey didn't need the family car, she even abandonded it. and casey didn't need cindy to take care of Caylee for the last 31 days. Oh, and casey didn't need cindy's money. cindy ratted casey out vaguely in the 2nd 911 call and full force in the 3rd 911. cindy knew she may not be able to control casey anymore, but she would get the last word.

That was a great thing to do, my dad gives his cans to the neighbor.   Does anyone really think Geraldo will have Joy on? I can't stand the man, but would watch just to see that train wreck.   ::MonkeyEek::

HiNM You could certainly be right.  Maybe Cindy didn't understand that she could be setting up her daughter for the death penalty.  Maybe all of the outrageous things she has done and said are from a sense of guilt.  I don't know. It is true that while Caylee lived, Casey was in control of everything and once Caylee was dead, she lost her leverage.

NRCG, Birds of a feather. I think Whoraldo wants Joy to be his "Ed McMannon" (?sp) co-host. What a show that would be. eek! I just scared myself.

Hi Sunny!

This used to be the link.     ::hohohosanta::

http://www.joyangels2930.chatango.com/

Is Geraldo that hard up for guests?  I see that Sassy put the link for Joy's chat, thanks Sassy, but I have noticed the last several months it is gone.

Minus 15 with the wind - just got my tongue separated from the light pole outside.  Hey, so far it's not too gloomy in here.  Hey all casual monkeys.

Hiya Casual

BRRRR!!  You gotta be careful flappin your mouth in that kind of cold.  The talk this morning has been some about Joy Wray so you better get your secret decoder out.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21913703/detail.html

This is the link for the States second motion for reciprocal discovery......can anyone bring this over?  there is IMO a lot of information in here that we will want to mull over..

Rats!!  ::MonkeyTongue::

JMO but I think it might be true....JB and GR are good friends and JB is trying to throw as much put as possible to cloud the issues.....and particularly that Caylee's body was not there when the searches were going on...they are still going for Kronk Did It!  And GR really doesn't care about truth.....just ratings

Hi NM!  Glad to see you. LOL to GR's Ed McMannon!! ::MonkeyJnBox::

I'm pretty casual so I'll say hello! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Aww Mizjay - me? flapping my mouth?  Gotta love Almond Joy - some days you feel like a nut...

Also...things that make you go uuummmmmmm   Why did none of the (defense) parties that JJ secretly taped want to prosecute??  Perhaps because of they did prosecute the tape would be evidence and be heard? Perhaps there are things on that tape that shops how the defense is getting people to say what they want or how the have misconstrued some of the statements? JJ obviously knew it was illegal and he immediately took the tape to the State...so it must have been something that JJ was willing to go the line for...JMO

Not too gloomy ( ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::) in Chicago so I expect no problem with lyons getting out to the court hearing.   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::

I would be willing to bet my last breath Whorealdo won't have Joy Nutball on his show.  ::MonkeyTongue::

Yeah I only seen one and that's the one with KC in the hospital bed holding Caylee..umm wonder if I can find the others since I didn't see them or just being a blonde it wizzed right passed me.  Ohh Hey Sunny did you read the book yet Mommy's Little Girl I just finished it last night.  I do have to admit I like the fact that she didn't put her personal feelings in the story she just made all the doc and everything that came out weaved it all together so that it was easy to understand.

I wonder if she has put on an extra layer or two of blubber to say warm??? ::MonkeyDevil2::

 Criminal Murder Docket Updated!

Events & Orders of the Court
12/09/2009---Motion---State of Florida's; for Protective Order Regarding Recording of Interview with Joe Jordan

12/09/2009---Motion to Compel---State of Florida's Second; Reciprocal Discovery and Motion for Discovery Schedule

Thsese are the only two I have.
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Thanks Sunny, I would like to read the second motion.

  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21913703/detail.html           It is four pages long

Hey Fannie thanks for posting I"m going to check the link and see if I can make them any bigger..I've been searching and still came up empty handed a big thank you going your way!

Nope didn't get any bigger humm they have to be posted somewhere on here...anyone else can lend a hand?

Sunny, that's what I thought too. JJ could have gotten in trouble for doing it, so going to the SA must have been a risk he was willing to take.

I haven't read it...next time I go the the library I will see if they have it.

I ''ll give it a try. Hang on.  ::MonkeyBike::

No soap. I think I did get it off of someones photobucket and it was this size. My computer geek is out of town. Sorry, I tried to resize it on my photobucket, and it would let me. Do you have a magnifier on your computer?

Thanks No Rose.  I find one of the statements in No. 11 especially appropos to the Anthonys......."The trial judge is invested with inherent and expressed powers to manage and control the conduct of a trial and the participants in that trial in all aspects......."  Someone should break this news to Cindy.  She should have in laminated for her wallet.

This whole thing with JJ has me so curious.  I hadn't thought before that maybe he was coached to say things that are not true by the defense and that is why he recorded it.  HHhmmm...if the defense had done any research on him, you would think they would have found his posts here and concluded that he might be a hostile witness.  This really has me wondering. 

oops forgot my manners, morning monkeys!

I don't remember who asked about court coverage for tomorrow but......

TruTV 's In Session will be covering the hearing tomorrow starting at 9:00 a.m. EST.

I don't know about you all, but I am setting my alarm so I can have my coffee ready and be set to go.  ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks!  It was me!  I'll be right there with ya!      ::MonkeyCool::

Fannie I didnt think about that I'll try to see if my computer can enlarge it..thanks for the heads up I just wish I could watch the trial/hearing tomorrow..so truetv is definitely covering it??

I don't think I've ever posted in this thread, but I have something y'all might be interested in - unless it's already been posted.

I just read Ann Rule's "But I Trusted You" and on Page 79, she flat out states that Casey Anothony murdered her child.

Excerpt:
"Infamous female criminals like Susan Smith, Casey Anthony, and Diane Downs <snip> murdered their own children, sacrificing them to get what they wanted <snip>."

Just thought it interesting that Ann Rule (of all people) would not presume innocence in print.

Hi MSMARPLE! Welcome.  I love Ann Rule, but I haven't read that book yet. I agree that she usually doesn't voice an opinion until after trial. That is surprising. I am going to pick up the book next time I am out. Thanks!  ::hohohosanta::

I'm not really good with PhotoShop, but I am learning. I tried with photobucket, but it wouldn't let me make it any bigger. My son could do it, but he is out of town right now.  Sorry.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-jail-recordings-20091210,0,2238446.story
Casey Anthony's attorney to argue for private jail visits

By Amy L. Edwards and Walter Pacheco, Orlando Sentinel

2:10 p.m. EST, December 10, 2009

Privacy is not something inmates — even high-profile ones like accused murderer Casey Anthony — can expect behind bars.

Video cameras routinely record inmates in common areas of Central Florida jails for security. Telephone calls also are screened and recorded.

The only time inmates can expect some privacy is when they meet with their attorneys in specially designated areas. These rooms have no video cameras to preserve attorney-client privilege, but are monitored by corrections officers.

But Jose Baez, Anthony's lead defense attorney, said his client's privacy is compromised because jail officials are steering him and his client into a different room — one with cameras — and he objects to the surveillance.

He will ask an Orange County judge Friday to prohibit jail officials from recording Anthony's visits with her legal counsel, destroy all recorded meetings and stop corrections officers from keeping an eye on them.

Baez, whose client is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie, said in a motion that cameras and jail staffers are having a "chilling effect" on their interactions and affect the ability to provide an adequate defense.

Jail spokesman Allen Moore said jail staff does tell Baez where to meet, but he can always request a different room, one without cameras.
"We have followed jail policies and rules very carefully and directly and we intend to continue to do so," Moore said about jail practices. "We have always attempted to accommodate Mr. Baez's requests, but never outside of jail policy."

Rande Matteson, a criminal-justice professor at Saint Leo University in Pasco County, said inmates do not have any expectation of privacy.

"Inmates frequently engage in criminal behavior while incarcerated and the corrections staff is responsible for safety inside and outside the facility," Matteson said.

Observing — but not listening — during lawyer visits is a common practice at jails across the U.S., said Greg Futch, head of Osceola County Corrections and former director of jails in Brevard, Flagler and Seminole counties.

This is not the first time the issue of jail recordings has come in the Anthony case.

A video shot at the jail on Dec. 11, 2008, the day Caylee's remains were discovered a few blocks away from her family home, reportedly shows Anthony reacting to the news.

Corrections Lt. Tammy Unser told detectives Anthony began to breathe rapidly, her hands became sweaty and red blotches appeared on her neck after hearing the news on a TV.

Anthony's defense team didn't want the video, which has no sound, released. Her attorneys argued the images could be misleading and violate her medical privacy.

Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland sealed the video, despite requests from the media, including the Orlando Sentinel, for its release.
Anthony Colarossi, Henry Pierson Curtis and Gary Taylor of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Walter Pacheco can be reached at wpacheco@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-6262. Amy L. Edwards can be reached at aledwards@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5735

The whole thing about JJ has been a conundrum.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I have not been able to find it other than in PDF...here's the link to read it

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21913703/detail.html

oooppsssssss I should have read ahead ::MonkeyKiss::...sorry

Thanks Sunny, it is an interesting motion.

And now it is unusable...darn it...but I think he can still testify to what happened during that interview

Hi akmom......it really has my curiosity up as well...but as it looks now we will not find out anytime soon....if at all!

Thanks AcG - I am always up early......so I will be here...<now watch me oversleep for saying that>

Hi MsMarple..it is GOOD to see you here and hope you will be here more often. Thanks for the heads up on the book.

It sure is....#9 talks about the expert witnesses the Def. said they had  and so for none have been listed and none have sought to examine any of the collected evidence except fro Dr. Lee on 11/14/08 when he examines the car and stated he would have to finish at a later date.....and over 1 year later and still he has not returned.

Is this going to be a stall tactic? Trying to say they haven't had time to prepare?

Wouldn't be surprised if Baez sues. (I hope I'm spelling Casey's attorney's name correctly.) Just to stir the pot.

I think this is Ms. Rule's newest book.

I think too we may still hear from him, we just won't be able to hear what he recorded.  I think he may well tell that he was coerced to say things, which puts him in a whole different light in my eyes.

What is the chilling effect? What do they want to do that can't be seem by other??

Thanks MsMarple...I think I will check it out on Amazin.  Nothing he does would surprise me anymore. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Is anyone else have a problem getting knocked off the site?

Yes, Jane LOL--(Miss Marple's first name, I'm a Cristie fan too!) I just finished reading the first part of the book--the murder of Chuck Leonard.  I saw that too. I once emailed Ann Rule about a minor point in one of her books and she responded graciously.  Why don't you see what she has to say about it?  As I recall, her email is somewhere in the back of the book.

I agree........

I do think the bar needs to revisit the "relationship" between Baez and KC, honestly, The bar needs to dig deeper, I mean come on.... why would he keep requesting this over and over again, unless he has something to hide going on with "his girl".

Would someone please ask that Gaelic Monkey Girl to stop posting in other Monkey's quote boxes?   GEEZ.....       ::MonkeyNoNo::

I've got a couple of really good links for pictures.

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/

http://photobucket.com/images/caylee%20anthony/?page=48&userinit=true&source=header

::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

SIS, I couldn't agree with you more.  ::MonkeyKiss::

Is there room on that branch for me too?    ::MonkeyWink::

I am so with you on that......I just do not see any way the judge is going to order something like that and hopefully the jail will not give in.... they say they have tried to accommodate him....wonder what that means?? 

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

Hi Sis. Good to see you.  ::MonkeyKiss::

Baez is nauseating huh? I mean he keeps yelling he wants privacy with "his girl" and trying to get himself and her special treatment... is he divorced yet? I am waiting on that jail house wedding to take place...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I received this email from a long time lurker Susan.  Thanks for the reminder Susan!:

Hello,
 
My name is Susan.  I've been lurking at Scared Monkeys for over a year now.  Today they are discussing the finger prints and how they may have gotten wet (Caylee Anthony thread).  Would you please remind them that the day George picked up the car, he and the guy who worked there tossed  the garbage in the dumpster.  The police retrieved it later. While George was driving the car home, it smelled so bad he had to open the windows and it was raining.  So.........the trash in the dumpster was also being rained on. I live here in Florida (Mount Dora), and after it rains here, It gets very hot and humid. The trash probably got a double dose (rain, then humid).  If you would give the monkeys this information, I would appreciate it.
 
Thank You,
Susan

Sure is, come on!! I'll move over.  ::MonkeyJnBox::

Bozp should understand his house of cards is built on sand. He thinks that he will never be made to come to task. He should take a good long look at what has happened to Tiger Woods. Tiger thought he was invincible too. JMO  ::ElfMonkey::

Wow Fannie you get the award of the day here I been searching all day and you came up with it so quick..wow still haven't found the hospital ones but found others that wizzed by me..LOL  Guess we will all be revisiting this case soon looking at pics and what not so our heads don't spin during trial unless that is of course JOY is on.

Hey Monkeys can one of you confirm what time the hearing is tomorrow?  I have 2:00 written down????  Thank you so much.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Klaas - Susan makes a good point. She should come out and post sometime.  ::ElfMonkey::

Thank-you, appreciate that info  ::MonkeyCool::

Wasnt there a big to do over the duct tape/sticker a bit back? was destroyed and no photos of it? there is a photo of it in one of those buckets is why I am asking.

Didn't realize that George, Cindy, and Brad were subpoenaed by the State, at least that is what was said on InSessions/Tru TV.

::MonkeyEek:: That is interesting this hearing tomorrow is going to be big time interesting.

Great article, thanks Trimm!

Thanks

Klaas and thanks Susan!  Susan stop lurking and join us!!  I had completely forgotten about it raining when GA was driving the car home!!

I know, and it starts at 6:30 my time, and I'm usually very busy with things, but I will have it on and work around it.

I am going to do a bit of juggling myself and when I get to work my door is closing with a note on my white board that says "Conference Call" because I don't want to miss any of this one  ::MonkeyWink::

I forgot about that too Sunny so if they get any print at all out of what was once a soggy mess it will be awesome!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  You know, I am doing everything in my power to protect my unborn grand baby and every time I see the Ants, I just want to smack them and throw up.. preferably on them, they make me sick. I do not understand how they can run around and behave in the manner that they do, all in the name of protecting the very person that took the life of their defenseless grand baby.  ::MonkeyMad::

Been going over more videos this time I found one from HLN saying Roy Kronk supervisor was one of the Anthony's neighbor does anyone remember that I guess this is that so called chain LP been talking about.

Well that's interesting...why in the wold would the State subpoena them I wonder???

It sure is...if the state subpoenaed them they will be HOSTILE!!!  Oh I hope they are and Judge Strickland throws their azzes in the clinker!!  I know wishful thinking, but a gal can dream!! ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

thank goodness none of us can understand....I don't think we would ever want to be able to think like them!!

They will be hostile, and yes, one can only dream  ::MonkeyDance::

ROW...I remember that, but I am not sure if it's really true.....some have said yes and some have said no.

::MonkeyDevil:: I'm having the same dream.

I guess we'll find out during trial otherwise there is no other way to find out that I can think of....

Fanny sis, check your nanners please

 ::MonkeyJnBox::  want a seat on my cloud!!

  YAY Move over - I will bring us each a banana split with extra chocolate sauce we can then call it SWEET DREAMS  ::MonkeyWink::

Ok.. this has been one of those days on the forums.... I am going to head out and go home to a bottle glass of wine.  I may catch you Monkeys later but for sure in the morning for court - I pray that Justice will prevail for Caylee in tomorrows hearing. Have a good night Monks  ::MonkeyAngel::

I moved over but make mine Hot Chocolate please..it's too darn cold for ice cream..buuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Good Night Monks...we are off to meet out of town friends who are on a stop over going to MAUI!!!  Yep....I hate them....j/k...have a great eveing and will see ya'll tomorrow for the hearing. ::MonkeyKiss::

http://www.wftv.com/news/21924120/detail.html
Casey Anthony To Be Back In Court Friday

Posted: 5:01 pm EST December 10, 2009Updated: 5:47 pm EST December 10, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The case against Casey Anthony is heading back to court Friday and Casey will be there. Casey Anthony's defense team will ask that the death penalty be taken off the table.

The defense also wants the jail to stop video-taping visits between Casey and her attorneys. They are also asking that the check fraud charges against her be dropped.

Cindy and George Anthony and their attorney Brad Conway have also been subpoenaed to testify.

The hearing is happening on a crucial date in the case. Caylee's remains were found one year ago Friday.

Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk found the remains in the woods near the Anthony family home.
<snipped>

To see Judge Strickland throw Cindy's azzz in the slammer would be the best Christmas present I ever had.  Well, maybe not the best......there was that diamond.....but it would rate right up there.

http://www.wesh.com/news/21924382/detail.html
Friday Hearing Comes Year After Caylee Found
Casey Anthony Defense To Argue Several Motions

POSTED: 5:24 pm EST December 10, 2009
UPDATED: 5:47 pm EST December 10, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The next chapter in the case against Casey Anthony will play out in an Orange County courtroom on Friday -- the one-year anniversary of the discovery of Caylee Anthony's remains.

Anthony's defense team plans to argue several motions at the hearing, which is scheduled to start at 9:30 a.m.

One is a defense motion to destroy the jail tapes made during Anthony's family visits, but administrators say that would be destruction of public records.
Anthony is in the Orange County Jail awaiting trial in 2010 on a charge of first-degree murder in connection with the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Anthony said a nanny took Caylee, whose remains were found in Orange County woods a year ago -- on Dec. 11, 2008.

WESH.com plans to stream the court hearing. Look for a link on the home page on Friday morning.

Images: New Photos Of Caylee, Casey Anthony  javascript:popUp('/slideshow/news/20728570/detail.html','width=1024,height=750,top=0,left=0,scrollbars');

Am I missing something here? is it going to be televised the hearing tomorrow? or am I just having a blonde moment! maybe I am the one in need of the wine! pooor me  poor me  pour  me another!!

    ::MonkeyCool::

self edit. 

Loca,all I know is  can watch it from my laptop.I am not sure about any tv stations.Sorry. 

Hey CBB.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::
We have court in the morning.   ::MonkeyGavel::

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I totaly have always thought that baez was too persistent in getting those  tapes destroyed because he had done something with her he wanted no one to know about!! I recall her telling tracy the girl padilla hired to watch casey! anyways  casey told her she would like to be on the howard stern show but howard!  may ask her  if she was doing baez! I think she was giving hints there!! casey much  like her mom !!does not know when to keep her mouth shut!!! baez is very  worried about something! anyways he isnt your typical seasoned attorney and in my  opinion he is way to green behind the ears! he lacks professionalism and common sense. If it wasnt for lyons he wouldnt have gotten this far! he  doesnt know how to do motions and is forever sticking his foot in his mouth. He made comments that he was the first hispanic to do a high profile case! NOT other  hispanic attorneys were  upset at his remark. Because that was so not true. And like casey he had written some checks with no funds and  was in such a mess with his life that he wasnt accepted to the bar right off!! He was always in financial messes so this casey case has netted him some pretty hefty dollars!! he is arrogant! self absorbed! like his client. I wished and hope they dig deep and find alot of dirt on him!
with the way he is he wont get to far in life ! I have a feeling we will be hearing about him long after this case is done!
I  think the reason he and geraldo get along well is because they are the same!  I never have liker geraldo and  would cringe when I would hear him speak! another fool so full of himself..
Justice for caylee

trimm
how will you see it on your laptop? do you mean after the hearing the videos that they put out for the public or?
I am having a  blonde moment here!  today lol

sorrrrry trimm
I think I wasrepeating myself not meaning to stutter lol!~

Don't miss Dana Pretzer tonight at 9pm ET:

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Tomorrow will be quite a day.  In the am we have court.  Then in the pm JVM says she will have an hour long sit down with Jose Baez of all people!!!!!!!!!!  The teaser showed him whining that people just want to kill Casey....  :roll:

I am not Trimm, but WESH is going to stream the hearing live tomorrow. Just go to their website and they will have a link to the live stream tomorrow on their front page. I am willing to bet that a few other news outlets in Orlando will also show the hearing live from their sites.

http://www.wesh.com/index.html

Hope this helps ;-)

I found this today. Has some some new pictures I hadnt seen before.

http://www.slide.com/r/Yjj6apnn6z8h8K21a6gPazz_mgADoefD

Thanks -  there were a few I have never seen either.

LOCA!!!!  You must be reading my mind......everything you said is perzactly right on!  He is a class A moron.         :smt074 :smt081   Looking forward to tomorrow

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I'm ready, Trimm!!  (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/kittycorn.gif)

NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/12/10/cayleecasey-anthony-case-a-gruesome-anniversary-plays-out-in-court/

Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: A Gruesome Anniversary Plays Out in Court

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Hi Rowanvamp0....yes, it's been said that Roy's boss is the A's neighbor and Roy's girlfriend works at the jail.  I believe this is why LP said there was a daisy chain and that's how Roy got his information.  I believe it's probably true. 

Thank you, CBB!!! That was very nice of you! Can't wait to don my Christmas attire!

I am going to miss the hearing tomorrow, but Scared Monkeys is the first place I will check for my updates (as usual). I am finding all your latest posts very interesting.

Praying for Caylee.

Slight O/T:  akmom, good to see you!  Not sure what's up with this, but just want you to know I never laugh at anyone's post and pretty much read everyone's. I only skip posts if they have a quite a few cuss words or if someone's appearance is being made fun of.  You bring up a lot of good points to discuss, so please don't lurk.  Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's (see my tag line).  Before I forget, your avi always brings a smile to my face too.  :smt039  I tend to read late, so I'm not always around in "real time".  Take good care!

no rose colored glasses-Your post made me think perhaps prints on the garbage may have been ruined by the Arm & Hammer detergent.  You know how there's always some left in the bottle in the end...just a thought.

Also, wondering if no prints showed up using this method, but how about a secondary method?  Anyone?  TIA

I am doing a late night check in, kind of unusual for me, but am anticipating tomorrow.  I appreciate your kind words and always find something interesting in your posts.  LOL, I am always afraid I am going to double post, as my connection goes in and out frequently.

About the lanyard in the picture.  THE lanyard.  Is there extra meaning to it?  Is it possible that it had something to do with swet Caylee's demise? 

    I don't know what has happened to Capp, I think she always had fingerprint info.  Aren't there more than one type of prints...latent and another kind

Row- I second Sunny's "Good Catch!".  Also, Sunny- you've got a good point about Casey possibly stealing co-worker's nametags.  Maybe they did play Change-A-Name or maybe Casey did lift them.  Or maybe Casey collected them as souvenirs from her "conquests"...would not surprise me one bit.

akmom- IDK about the lanyard.  I'm not sure if that was standard in Casey's car or just Cindy's story.  IMO, Casey may have used it to strangle Caylee.  It seems odd that Cindy made a ruckus about it , basically accusing LE of taking it.  I have to wonder if others noticed it missing after Cindy unknowingly mentioned it.  Then she had to concoct a cover story for why it was gone.  JMO

rmcalo- good points!  I'm going to throw my 2 cents in here (hope you don't mind).  I'm thinking if anyone in that family helped cleanup the trunk...it was George.  First, we see him throwing up in LE interviews and his extreme hysteria when he misunderstood questions in the ZG depos asking him to describe the last time he saw Caylee. Secondly, he's the family car detailer.  Third, he's a former LE detective.  Fourth, he's the only family member who doesn't ask Casey one question about where Caylee might be and he's the only one Casey never gives any searching clues to.  Based on plant life evidence, I don't think Caylee was still in the trunk June 24th.
Based on your theory, I think George knew and cleaned the trunk and he or Cindy tried to "wash" or rinse some things from the trunk in the pool and laid them in the yard/on the sandbox to dry (hence the cadaver dog hits).  I think either: Casey may have been planning to frame Ricardo all along (calling Ricardo's apartment Zanny's, making sure Caylee had on the Big Trouble shirt when she was disposed of, the June 9th date); when confronted by Cindy, Casey began weaving her Zanny story using the pics and June 9th, planning to frame Ricardo then; OR George, Casey, and Cindy began collaberating the kidnapping story.  I'm not 100% convinced Casey changed Caylee's clothes into the Big Trouble shirt, but the gas cans have always bothered me.  I wonder if she did do that and burned Caylee's original clothes or maybe George disposed of them.  I think Cindy insisted on the June 9th date because Casey had pics at "Zanny's" (Ricardo's).  Of course, I could be wrong and wouldn't put it past Cindy to try to mislead an investigation.  All MO.   

One more thing before I head out, I don't think yesterday's doc dump pics were taken in the same time frame (although I could be wrong).  Looking here http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-anthony-case-evidence-pictures-120909,0,6454542.photogallery (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-anthony-case-evidence-pictures-120909,0,6454542.photogallery), Caylee's bangs appear shorter in pic #1 (with Casey on the bed), than they do in the following pics. Even though the angle of her head is different (face tilted up), pic #6 has a similar angle and her bangs are still nearly in her face in that one.  Pic #5 shows her bangs were long enough to cover her eyebrows and be almost down in her eyes.  I'd be interested in seeing a hair length comparison of early June pics of Caylee versus later June pics of Caylee. Maybe that can help us narrow down when these pics were taken.  Also, who took these pics?  Assuming Ricardo here, surely he's been interviewed?  Amy, maybe?
Well, time to go...lots to do and not enough time.  Have a good evening/morning and take good care!  Will be checking in tonight to watch court video and your commentaries.  TIA!

I agree with you on this.  Pic #1, Caylee has on dark colored pants and in the other pictures they are light.  Also KC does not appear to be wearing the same clothes and her hair style looks different. 

Morning Monkeys, I'm off to work but I'm sure you will take copious notes for me! Thank you!

BTW, it is also the 15th anniversary of the disappearance of D'Wan Sims, a 3 yr old boy that disappeared from the Wonderland Mall in Livonia MI today. At least that's what his Mama said, police don't believe that he made it to the mall that day. So sad.

Morning Monkeys, I'm off to work but I'm sure you will take copious notes for me! Thank you!

BTW, it is also the 15th anniversary of the disappearance of D'Wan Sims, a 3 yr old boy that disappeared from the Wonderland Mall in Livonia MI today. At least that's what his Mama said, police don't believe that he made it to the mall that day. So sad.

Good Morning Monkeys !!
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Brandi !  Don't you ever sleep ? ::MonkeyShocked:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Good Morning Monkeys   ::ElfMonkey::


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/12/one-year-after-daughters-remai.html
WDBO Local News      
One year after daughter's remains were found, Casey Anthony heads back to court
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ December 11, 2009 5:00 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
It was one year ago today that Caylee Anthony's remains were found.
The accused killer, her mother, will be back in court this morning as a judge hears new motions in the capital murder case.

Casey Anthony's defense will ask Judge Stan Strickland to stop the state from seeking the death penalty. They say it's unwarranted in this case and would lead to a conviction-prone jury.

"The people who are on the jury are more likely to be pro-death penalty which leads defense lawyers to think they're more likely to convict," said veteran death penalty attorney Diana Tennis.

She agrees that jury selection rules in death penalty cases give the prosecution an advantage but doesn't believe the judge is likely to step in.

Also Friday, the defense will look to stop the jail from releasing recordings of family visits and make sure attorney-client meetings are completely private.

Finally, they'll look to have some of Casey's fraud charges thrown out.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/12/11/death_penalty_questioned_today_in_case_against_casey.html
 Death Penalty Questioned Today In Case Against Casey
Friday, December 11, 2009 5:42:45 AM
ORLANDO -- It is a significant day today in the Case Against Casey Anthony.

The Orange County mother who is charged with murdering her toddler is due back at the Orange County Courthouse as the judge is set to decide several key motions.

For the defense, one of the biggest motions to be decided is one on the appropriateness of the death penalty.
For the judge to rule on this, the state will have to once again prove the evidence supports a death sentence if Casey Anthony is convicted of murdering her daughter Caylee.

Anthony's defense team has also asked the judge to order the jail to stop recording Anthony's visits with her attorneys, saying they are unconstitutional.

However, the state argues they are protected by law, as long as they don't record audio which they haven't.

Also on Friday, the defense is asking several counts be dismissed because of double jeopardy, most of them relating to alleged charge fraud.

As for the state, they are asking the defense to turn over a list of witnesses they plan to bring to trial, and their addresses.

Prosecutors said they are entitled to something called discovery, which allows both sides to be set for trial.

The start of Anthony’s murder trial is just a little over a month away, on Jan. 25, but with so much still undecided, the judge could decide to push the trial back today as far as next summer.
Today’s proceedings could be especially hard on Caylee and Casey’s family. Friday is the one-year anniversary of the day little Caylee’s remains were found.

Over the last week, the State Attorney's office released new details about that spot in the woods where Caylee was found, and new pictures of the 2 year old wearing a shirt that said "Big Trouble Comes in Little Packages," which she is believed to have been wearing when she disappeared.

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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/AP/story/1376813.html
Posted on Friday, 12.11.09
Attorneys to ask judge to block death penalty
The Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorneys for the Florida mother charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter are expected to ask a judge on Thursday to stop prosecutors from seeking the death penalty.

A hearing in Casey Anthony's case is set to begin Friday morning in Orlando.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her young daughter, Caylee. She pleaded not guilty.

The toddler's remains were found last December in woods near the home where she lived with her mother and grandparents. Although the death was ruled a homicide, a specific cause was never determined.

http://www.wesh.com/news/21924382/detail.html
Hearing Comes 1 Year After Caylee Found
Casey Anthony Defense To Argue Several Motions

POSTED: 5:24 pm EST December 10, 2009
UPDATED: 6:04 am EST December 11, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The next chapter in the case against Casey Anthony will play out in an Orange County courtroom on Friday -- the one-year anniversary of the discovery of Caylee Anthony's remains.
Anthony's defense team plans to argue six motions during a hearing scheduled to begin at 9:30 a.m.
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Hey SS!

Ended up staying up all night for a front row seat as well!

Well, skootch on over and pass the popcorn ::MonkeyHaHa::

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So far, WESH.com and ClickOrlando.com will be streaming the hearing live today that I know of.

Who's passing out the coffee you forgot little me here!!!  Im up early just for this so come on and keep me awake!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/NcsBqtTrZMI&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1
Casey Team Seeks Death Penalty Block
Casey Anthony, 23, Charged With Murder In Daughter's Death
POSTED: Friday, December 11, 2009
UPDATED: 7:22 am EST December 11, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorneys for Casey Anthony are expected to ask a judge to stop prosecutors from seeking the death penalty.
A hearing in Anthony's murder case is set to begin at about 9:30 a.m. Friday in Orlando. Anthony, 23, is expected to attend the hearing, which will be streamed live on ClickOrlando.com.

Anthony's defense team also wants the Orange County Jail to stop videotaping its visits with Anthony. The jail staff recorded Anthony's reaction while she watched media coverage of the discovery of Caylee's remains, and her defense team wants the judge to order all video recordings of Anthony destroyed.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were discovered in a wooded lot near the Anthony family home in Orange County one year ago. Anthony has pleaded not guilty.

Although the death was ruled a homicide, a specific cause was never determined.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

Some of us may need this.   ::MonkeyCool::
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Mornin' ! Guess I better get another pot started ::MonkeyHaHa::
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Trimm...where are those Pop Tarts ! ::ElfMonkey::

Okay so about the name badge on the purse evidence photo after closer inspection you can see that the name tag can't be changed like I previously thought.  The badge is one that is engraved with the persons name so I'm beginning to think like someone else suggested that this may have been a "Keepsake" item.  Still pondering tho who is this "Chris" person.

Just took mine Trimm. Thanks  ::snowmanlaugh::

Lol Trim.

Today is Caylee's Day for me. It will always be. I had lost hope she would ever be found, in her honor I wrote this:

 http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/12/10/cayleecasey-an…s-out-in-courtcayleecasey-anthony-case-a-gruesome-anniversary-plays-out-in-court/


My best wishes and blessings for all those who continue to work tirelessly seeking Justice for our cherub, Caylee Marie.

(Put me down for 2 Trim)

Sorry,it's popcorn,coffee and valiums.   ::snowmanlaugh::
I am ready for court.   ::MonkeyCool::

Good Morning Monks!  Boo..I know you are already gone...but wanted to say Hi!  I have been missing you!!

Hey Blink.I was so sad this morning just thinking about a year ago.
There will be justice for Caylee.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Hi Brandi and thanks...I think TruTV will also be carrying it

 ::HelloKitty::  Morning Row....I'd like to know as well.....

Good morning! Would anyone know if Fox will be streaming the hearing today? I usually can't get the other sites to play. Thank you  ::MonkeyAngel::

I read that last night, Blink.

Really is a most excellent article.

There will indeed by justice for Caylee.....I clearly remember last year vividly...as well as the sadness associated with it....

Hi Sunny.

Does TRuTV stream live online?

Hi Gizzie.....I hope so too as I can't get the other sites to play either.....

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

Didn't anyone ever tell the courts that the day does not start til at least 11 am?

Hi Brandi...not that I know of...just TV...I usually have to watch the hearings on TV, I can't get any live streaming from any station other than FOX......

I thought it was just me.  ::MonkeyConfused:: I'm listening to Fox now, but so far, nothings been said. I sure hope they do.

Moring Sunny glad to see your up and ready to support us all..we all need some of that Valium being passed around and if JOY shows up I'm going to need two of those bottles!

Good Morning Everyone!

In Sessions - TruTV is covering the case right now.    ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Blink....I love this phrase!! verbal guillotine ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Good Morning, All!!   ::HelloKitty::

I brought a little something for those who need a little "strength" to go along with the popcorn and valium!   ::MonkeyWink::

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OK.................. that should cover everything! 

Where's my seat!   ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::    Especially for those living on the West Coast, right?   

Hi Gizzie.

Looks like they might be streaming. There is a greyed out link here: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/ that says: Casey Anthony Hearing Today

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

 ::MonkeyJnBox::  Hi Darla!!!

Good Morning Monkeys,

Present and accounted for!

Trutv/Courttv is on with coverage right now!!!

George and Cindy are sitting in court right now with their lawyer speaking to trutv's commentator

Headline News just said they're going live to the courthouse in a few minutes..hope they stay there!

Good Morning!   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Baez just entered the court area they said and Conway is still on air speaking so court will resume shortly I believe.

do you have a link, please?  TIA

Conway said the State wants to find out what questions they are going to invoke privilege on which is why they were supenda on

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

for live stream scheduled at 9:30

Hello Monkeys

BC just said on TRU TV that G and C said they will not be testify today

monkey hugs

No link just live tv on the local cable company's service

Forgive me - I need more coffee...you are watching TV I assume   ::MonkeyJnBox:: 

Thanks Brandi!

 ::snowmanlaugh:: Hi Sunny

Reason for not seeing their daughter is cause of the video tapes being released to the public..PLEASE!!! Poping a Valium now!!

Gotcha.  Thanks for the updates for those that aren't watching   ::MonkeyKiss:: 

yeppers watching live tv and having the links for the computer up as well