Gabriel Johnson #2 1/15/10 - 1/27/10

[Northern Rose]

I had a question run through my mind last night and  just now thought of it.

All the news reports have been saying that Analisa, the babysitter was probably the last person to see Gabriel alive. She kept him on the 20th or 21st. What happened to him being seen in a park on the 26th?

Good question

I believe the park story came from Elizabeth.  According to the camera dates, Gabriel was still alive in the hotel room on 12/26 but Analisa may have been the only person outside of Elizabeth that saw him.

I may be confused, which is probable, but I thought the cops had a witness that saw her and the baby in the park in  San Antonio. I know last week i kept trying to find out who the witness was and If it was a credible lead.



Thank you Northern for the time line.

The park may be a Yammi and Tammi story just like Victoria Texas was.


<snipped>
Johnson gave her baby away in a Texas park.

San Antonio news stations reported the name of a specific park where Johnson met the mystery couple, Carbajal said. But he said police are unaware of any such park.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/01/17/20100117missingbaby0117.html

[Magnolia]

Northern Rose, your timeline is so helpful.  Thanks!

Do we know how she got from Ft. Lauderdale to Miami?

She bought the ticket to Ft. Lauderdale, but was arrested in Miami.

No idea , that is an outstanding question from the first thread.

Thanks.

[Missiontoconvict]

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[Missiontoconvict]

Another thing bothering Me. Why did she get on Tornado bus line, where as the only white person on it made her stand out when she could have gone on Greyhound for the same amount of money?

I wonder if the bus schedule prompted her to take one over the other?

[darla]

This is the list of bus terminals for Tornado bus lines. They have no terminal in Ft. Lauderdale,

Dallas,TX                         535 E Jefferson,  (214) 941-7399,                    1(800)791-9226                           
Royal Shopping Mall N, (972)247-7775
Houston, TX    1516 Airlane, (713)861-8237, (713)861-6773,     1(800)603-2087
6517 Harrisburg, (713)928-5500,                     1(866)447-6012
Waco, TX    1900 Speight, (254)752-6680, 1(800)256-6761
San Antonio, TX          7914 IH-35 South, (210)922-9010,                  1(800)754-1182
Austin, TX    3311 N IH-35 Service 78722, (512)472-7773, (512)474-2733
El Paso, TX    307 S Santa Fe, (915)351-9002
Mc Allen, TX    1501 W Highway 83, (956)682-3004,                1(866)297-3004
Brownsville, TX    735 International, (956)547-9290,                   1(866)547-9200
Laredo, TX    919 San Bernardo, (956)796-0003
Fort Worth, TX    (817)924-2800
Atlanta, GA    3658-A Shallowford, (770)458-9218,                 1(888)458-9218
Raleigh, NC    4005-101 New Bern, (919)212-1448,                1(800)791-7856
Chicago, IL    2807 S Kedzie, (773)247-5921, (773)247-3349, 1(877)950-5556
Waukegan, IL    2227 Belvidere, (847)336-5038
Fort Myers, FL    910 Veronica S Shoemaker, (239)332-0081,      1(888)378-6678
Plant City, FL    1419 Collins, (813)659-3377, 1(888)378-6678
Nashville, TN    2428-A Nolensville, (615)313-8843,                 1(866)998-6762
 


 

[darla]

I have called of these to get info. And all of the agents speak Spanish. 

[Northern Rose]

I have called of these to get info. And all of the agents speak Spanish. 

Yup.  I am correcting the timeline as it was Fort Myers.  I remember you calling them and then telling me that.  Thanks! 

[darla]

If anyone can speak Spanish you might get more info than I did. I asked them to speak English and they did, but with such a heavy accent it was hard to communicate. I was told that the bus leaves San Antonio everyday at 12 noon. Their hub is Houston, Tx.

[Tracygirl]

Thanks Northern Rose for the time line, it is very helpful. Now does anyone feel it could be possible the baby was in the bag when she boarded the bus? If she drugged him he would have been sleeping. Did she arrive in Fla with that bag? Did she have it when they arrested her? If not, is there video of another person getting on that bus with a similar bag? Maybe a switch happened?

I am going to have to check out Hulo.com tomorrow for the nancy grace tonight. Why is she not seeing what we all are seeing, I am a bit confused by that.

[Tamikosmom]

Yami Virgin's relationship with Tammi and Jack Smith ... persons of interest in the Baby Gabriel Case ... bothers me no end.

Janet

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THE PARK - RAYMOND RUSSELL PARK

NANCY GRACE
New Developments in Missing Baby Gabriel Case
Aired January 6, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Have you spoken to her since she has been behind bars, Mr. Smith?

JACK SMITH: We did. We talked to her, and we had the local channel here tape it so that there was no questions about what was said and what was done and how it was done.

GRACE: What did you learn?

JACK SMITH: Well, one thing we learned is where the car was because it was right after that up-feed or upload that -- it`s our understanding that right after the upload, we did find out where the car was. So they were able to find the car after we did the interview. Nobody said that it was attributed necessarily to that, but it was -- they found it at 4:00 o`clock, and we were -- did the interview at 2:00, and then they immediately uploaded it. So that came from it.

To be honest with you, we had a list of questions -- the questions, you know, we wanted to -- the main question that we wanted, obviously, was, Where is Gabriel? Where is this little sweet, wonderful baby? And at that point, she said that she met a couple in the park. And I do have the name of the park (INAUDIBLE) we didn`t know this until the afternoon. It`s Raymond Russell Park.

GRACE: Raymond Russell Park? So she remembered that, but she didn`t remember...

JACK SMITH: No, no.

GRACE: She didn`t remember that?

JACK SMITH: Forgive me. No, this comes from -- and I don`t mean to go off track here, but...

GRACE: It`s OK.

JACK SMITH: ... but we have -- we have focused our life for the last few days since all this happened. We`re on the phone all day, trying to find out as much information. We have contacts. We have sources. Ain`t that cool? We have sources in San Antonio with a radio station and -- radio and telephone stations there.

GRACE: So you figured out it was Raymond Russell Park.

JACK SMITH: Raymond Russell Park is where -- where they -- and we also found out through that source that when she bought the bus ticket, she bought it as Elizabeth Jones.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/06/ng.01.html


THE PARK - THE YAMI VIRGIN (FOX) CONNECTION

NANCY GRACE
Couple Named Persons of Interest in Missing Baby Case
Aired January 7, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

NANCY GRACE, HOST:  I`m completely stunned that you`ve been named persons of interest. On the other hand, that doesn`t mean the cops think you took baby Gabriel. I`m interpreting it to mean that they believe you know where baby Gabriel may be. What about it, Tammi Smith?

TAMMI SMITH: Well, I have tried to call the detective, Ramirez (ph), many times today, left two messages with her. It`s not that I know where he is, but like I told your staff, we`ve all been talking for the past couple days, trying to brainstorm where he is. So Yami from Fox News has been brainstorming, and she`s been digging and digging in San Antonio for us. And she gives us all of her leads. And so we go with that. And we`re working with your office, as well, and brainstorming together. So we just have our own ideas about it.

GRACE: Well, I noticed last night that you told us that you had determined the park where the handoff, the alleged handoff, was made by Mommy, 23-year-old Elizabeth Johnson, to this unknown couple that she just happens to meet at the park. How did you know the name of the park?

JACK SMITH: Yami. Yami was the one that had told me, and I -- I mentioned to you the connection aspect. Yami -- we have been somewhat embraced by them because they feel that we are trying our desperate -- desperately trying to find this baby. And help find this baby.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/07/ng.01.html


THE PARK - FALSE LEAD

Lost baby born into troubled home life
Jan. 17, 2010 12:00 AM

<snipped>

Johnson gave her baby away in a Texas park.

San Antonio news stations reported the name of a specific park where Johnson met the mystery couple, Carbajal said. But he said police are unaware of any such park.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/01/17/20100117missingbaby0117.html

[Tamikosmom]

Northern Rose and Darla

THANKS!!

BTW ... Northern Rose ... did you feed those kids.

 

Janet
7:10 PM PT

[darla]

Thanks Northern Rose for the time line, it is very helpful. Now does anyone feel it could be possible the baby was in the bag when she boarded the bus? If she drugged him he would have been sleeping. Did she arrive in Fla with that bag? Did she have it when they arrested her? If not, is there video of another person getting on that bus with a similar bag? Maybe a switch happened?

I am going to have to check out Hulo.com tomorrow for the nancy grace tonight. Why is she not seeing what we all are seeing, I am a bit confused by that.

Tracy, I  had a similiar thought last week. I know that most buses stop about every 2 -3 hours at their terminals To either pick up or drop off passengers. If she put in her backpack she could have dropped him anywhere between San Antonio and Fl.

[Northern Rose]

Northern Rose and Darla

THANKS!!

BTW ... Northern Rose ... did you feed those kids.

 

Janet
7:10 PM PT

YW.  Can you find where Jack was talking on NG about taking a child out of circulation and then after a certain time reintroducing to the mainstream?  It was early on.

Kids fed, Cheese and tuna casserole and fresh veggie salad.

[Tracygirl]

Northern Rose and Darla

THANKS!!

BTW ... Northern Rose ... did you feed those kids.

 

Janet
7:10 PM PT

lol are you refering to the fb tammi/gabriel discussions? Who on earth are those 2 posters? They are unreal.

[Northern Rose]

Anyone who knows Florida, the hostel that Elizabeth was arrested at was the International Fun House in Miami Beach.  When I look up the address it keeps coming up as Santa Barbara Hostel. Is that one and the same? 

[darla]

Janet thanks for posting this again. I meant to comment on something in this statement last week. Is this not the most childish statement you ever heard for a missing child. Ain't that cool., never knew there were telephone stations out there either. I swear he and Tammi both act like they are short quite a few marbles.







JACK SMITH: ... but we have -- we have focused our life for the last few days since all this happened. We`re on the phone all day, trying to find out as much information. We have contacts. We have sources. Ain`t that cool? We have sources in San Antonio with a radio station and -- radio and telephone stations there.

[Northern Rose]

Northern Rose and Darla

THANKS!!

BTW ... Northern Rose ... did you feed those kids.

 

Janet
7:10 PM PT

lol are you refering to the fb tammi/gabriel discussions? Who on earth are those 2 posters? They are unreal.

Now I am    .  Thought Janet was asking me what I made for dinner.  I have not been on FB a lot today as was making the timeline.  Are they arguing food over there? 

[Tamikosmom]

Northern Rose and Darla

THANKS!!

BTW ... Northern Rose ... did you feed those kids.

 

Janet
7:10 PM PT

lol are you refering to the fb tammi/gabriel discussions? Who on earth are those 2 posters? They are unreal.

Now I am    .  Thought Janet was asking me what I made for dinner.  I have not been on FB a lot today as was making the timeline.  Are they arguing food over there? 

You are correct Northern Rose.  Dinner sounds good.

Darla my dear ... I do not have a clue what you are talking about.

 

Janet

[darla]

I do believe Tammi and Jack took lessons from George and Cndy. They act just as stupid.

[Mere]

Raymond Russell Park, San Antonio, TX

http://www.sanantonio.gov/sapar/raymondrussellreservations.asp