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Title: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: MuffyBee on October 02, 2009, 11:33:01 AM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 04:32:06 PM
Please God, pls bring Haleigh soon ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 04:32:23 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 09, 2009, 04:33:14 PM
Is this where I pick up all of the prizes that I have won? ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 09, 2009, 04:33:38 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 09, 2009, 04:34:15 PM
 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 04:34:26 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 09, 2009, 04:36:17 PM
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Me too, but I am ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 04:36:40 PM
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Cute monkey ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 09, 2009, 04:37:08 PM
http://ow.ly/tD9D

by Rozzie Franco


SATSUMA, FLA. -- Haleigh Cummings had only been missing for four days when Texas-based EquuSearch arrived in Satsuma to help find her.


AUDIO: Tim Miller | Tim Miller 2
Now, eight months later, there is still no trace of the girl, but the one person to have last seen her alive seems to be making the rounds.

Haleigh's stepmother, Misty Croslin-Cummings, will be back on network TV Friday morning, two days after she was detained in Orlando in an I-4 road rage incident.

According to police, a woman claims she was harassed and terrorized by Croslin-Cummings and EquuSearch member Donna Brock, who was driving the car.

EquuSearch founder Tim Miller sent Donna to convince Misty to open up about what really happened to Haleigh, but Miller didn't expect the pair to run into authorities.

"It just shows the mentality again of Misty Cummings. No matter where Misty Cummings goes, she takes destruction with her. That is who Misty Cummings is," he said. "Wouldn't this just be a total embarrassment? Here, your stepdaughter is missing, here this rumor is out there, you are on drugs, you're having threesomes, and now you're being thrown on the ground by the cops."

Reports in the case show Misty has failed five different polygraph tests, but authorities have yet to arrest her.

She will appear on the CBS Early Show today.





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 09, 2009, 04:37:21 PM
knock knock......

May i come in????

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 09, 2009, 04:40:18 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 09, 2009, 04:42:08 PM
The only way I can see Misty leaving the care of her psuedo mom Donna is if she made a whole pocketfull of money off her latest television appearance........She might be stuck with her for now and that might be a good thing as far as getting her spill something...but she's a tough cookie and I'm not holding my breath waiting for her to talk.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 09, 2009, 04:45:29 PM
hmmm oprah is doing a missing person segment on Tuesday.  Maury Povich vs Oprah.  Gee I know which one I'd fight to get on.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 09, 2009, 04:47:11 PM
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Cute monkey ::MonkeyDance::

Reminds me of the Gremlins!  Gizmo in that cute little car!  Oh I'm showing my age.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 09, 2009, 04:49:22 PM
ok I've been on here all darn day.  I'll BBL.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 04:49:51 PM
Wow, hearing what TM has to say. I sure would love to know what Marie and Crystal have to say about all this  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I can just imagine.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 04:50:21 PM
http://ow.ly/tD9D

by Rozzie Franco


SATSUMA, FLA. -- Haleigh Cummings had only been missing for four days when Texas-based EquuSearch arrived in Satsuma to help find her.


AUDIO: Tim Miller | Tim Miller 2
Now, eight months later, there is still no trace of the girl, but the one person to have last seen her alive seems to be making the rounds.

Haleigh's stepmother, Misty Croslin-Cummings, will be back on network TV Friday morning, two days after she was detained in Orlando in an I-4 road rage incident.

According to police, a woman claims she was harassed and terrorized by Croslin-Cummings and EquuSearch member Donna Brock, who was driving the car.

EquuSearch founder Tim Miller sent Donna to convince Misty to open up about what really happened to Haleigh, but Miller didn't expect the pair to run into authorities.

"It just shows the mentality again of Misty Cummings. No matter where Misty Cummings goes, she takes destruction with her. That is who Misty Cummings is," he said. "Wouldn't this just be a total embarrassment? Here, your stepdaughter is missing, here this rumor is out there, you are on drugs, you're having threesomes, and now you're being thrown on the ground by the cops."

Reports in the case show Misty has failed five different polygraph tests, but authorities have yet to arrest her.

She will appear on the CBS Early Show today.


Thank you for posting this, I was right about that one.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 04:50:25 PM
hmmm oprah is doing a missing person segment on Tuesday.  Maury Povich vs Oprah.  Gee I know which one I'd fight to get on.


 ::MonkeyShocked:: Oprah................ ::MonkeyWink::

Hate to leave when things are heatig up, but got a customer in town and have to go meet soon at the beach bar.....FCL, I'll have a few stiff one's just for you ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 04:52:55 PM
Wow, hearing what TM has to say. I sure would love to know what Marie and Crystal have to say about all this  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I can just imagine.

 I just can't even go there...........hearing his take on things. Serioulsy, they are things you and I have said all along, as so many others, but to hear TM and the level of his frustration makes me mad as he77 at those 2 and the lifestyle they exposed those 2 innocent children too............but, I did love the hillbilly remark ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 09, 2009, 04:52:56 PM
hmmm oprah is doing a missing person segment on Tuesday.  Maury Povich vs Oprah.  Gee I know which one I'd fight to get on.


 ::MonkeyShocked:: Oprah................ ::MonkeyWink::

Hate to leave when things are heatig up, but got a customer in town and have to go meet soon at the beach bar.....FCL, I'll have a few stiff one's just for you ::MonkeyTongue::

Have fun, no driving, cycling or floating in a innertube after the stiff ones!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on October 09, 2009, 04:52:56 PM
Hi Monks...Holy Carp!

I was one who thought Donna's connection to TES meant TM had set this up.  I just didn't realize the utter depravity of MC, RC, TN, etal.  I give major kudos to TM for not being afraid to speak the truth!  He is a hero.

Now, really, truly, where is Misty going to go.  This news is "out there" and IMO, Misty cannot go back to Ron and Satsuma.  She's "marked".

Maybe TM's speaking out is the final thing that will get this little wench to spill what she knows.  She is not safe anywhere but in protective custody. 

Also IMO, the "victim" of road rage was a set-up or the story was highly embellished.  It doesn't pass the smell test with me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 04:55:29 PM

AUDIO: Tim Miller Talks About Misty's Gal Pal Donna Brock
http://hosted-media.podzinger.com/wsky/archive/WSKY_News/2009-10-09_Tim_Miller_on_Donna_Brock.mp3

AUDIO: Tim Miller Talks About Misty's Possible Whereabouts the Night of the Abduction
http://hosted-media.podzinger.com/wsky/archive/WSKY_News/2009-10-09_Rozie_Franco_and_Tim_Miller.mp3

AUDIO: TES's Tim Miller Talks About Misty's Friend Donna Brock and More


TJ Hart/Rozie Franco/FNN/CBS TV

More stunning audio is coming out from Texas EquuSearch Director Tim Miller, the man who coordinated some of the ground searches for missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma in February and who arranged for the child's stepmother to be polygraphed and hypnotized.

Miller spoke with 97.3 The Sky's news partner The Florida Radio Network. Rozie Franco conducted the interview and she asked Miller, " Who is Misty Cummings'  friend, Donna Brock and what is she doing?"

Miller did not hesitate to answer.

Miller also stated in an earlier interview with FNN's Rozie Franco that he, too, was told early on that Misty wasn't at home the night Haleigh disappeared.


Misty appeared on the CBS Early Show Friday morning and started pointing fingers in the disappearance of  young Haleigh. She said she feels 'someone on the other side of the family has Haleigh."

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5406914.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 04:57:59 PM
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Thank you Muffy!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 05:08:16 PM
Misty did the Early Showinterview without the blessing of her attorney. Mr. Fields advised Misty not to do the Early Show interview per Natisha Lance on HLN

Natisha also said that she spoke with Marie Griffis and Marie thought that Misty was referring to Ron's side of the family when Misty stated on the Early Show that she thought the other side of the family took HaLeigh and that she thought HaLeigh is still  alive.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 05:10:04 PM
hmmm oprah is doing a missing person segment on Tuesday.  Maury Povich vs Oprah.  Gee I know which one I'd fight to get on.


 ::MonkeyShocked:: Oprah................ ::MonkeyWink::

Hate to leave when things are heatig up, but got a customer in town and have to go meet soon at the beach bar.....FCL, I'll have a few stiff one's just for you ::MonkeyTongue::
Have fun, see you later  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 05:10:33 PM
hmmm oprah is doing a missing person segment on Tuesday.  Maury Povich vs Oprah.  Gee I know which one I'd fight to get on.


 ::MonkeyShocked:: Oprah................ ::MonkeyWink::

Hate to leave when things are heatig up, but got a customer in town and have to go meet soon at the beach bar.....FCL, I'll have a few stiff one's just for you ::MonkeyTongue::

Have fun, no driving, cycling or floating in a innertube after the stiff ones!!!!!

will do, and they have a trolley to take you home if you have too many ::MonkeyWink:: I'm sure I'll be fine!

Nite for now ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 05:11:20 PM
Hi Monks...Holy Carp!

I was one who thought Donna's connection to TES meant TM had set this up.  I just didn't realize the utter depravity of MC, RC, TN, etal.  I give major kudos to TM for not being afraid to speak the truth!  He is a hero.

Now, really, truly, where is Misty going to go.  This news is "out there" and IMO, Misty cannot go back to Ron and Satsuma.  She's "marked".

Maybe TM's speaking out is the final thing that will get this little wench to spill what she knows.  She is not safe anywhere but in protective custody. 

Also IMO, the "victim" of road rage was a set-up or the story was highly embellished.  It doesn't pass the smell test with me.
Exactly, where could she possibly go, something has to give soon, it just can't continue like a circus side show  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 05:11:59 PM
HaleighNewz Donna Brock was total setup by TES. Click on links on top of page to listen to audio: http://ow.ly/tD8r  about 1 hour ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 05:12:20 PM
Misty did the Early Showinterview without the blessing of her attorney. Mr. Fields advised Misty not to do the Early Show interview per Natisha Lance on HLN

Natisha also said that she spoke with Marie Griffis and Marie thought that Misty was referring to Ron's side of the family when Misty stated on the Early Show that she thought the other side of the family took HaLeigh and that she thought HaLeigh is still  alive.

Thanks for the update, Heart.

I also wondered what Misty meant by "the other side of the family." My first thought was Ronald's. My second was Crystal's.

I am not sure yet what she meant!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 05:12:39 PM
Misty did the Early Showinterview without the blessing of her attorney. Mr. Fields advised Misty not to do the Early Show interview per Natisha Lance on HLN

Natisha also said that she spoke with Marie Griffis and Marie thought that Misty was referring to Ron's side of the family when Misty stated on the Early Show that she thought the other side of the family took HaLeigh and that she thought HaLeigh is still  alive.
  ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyConfused:: I figured she was talking about Marie and Crystal that side of the family.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 05:12:40 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 05:17:59 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Misty tells CBS, My brother would betray me

posted by halboedeker on Oct 9, 2009 4:34:31 PM


Mistyc CBS News says Misty Cummings provides new details about the night that Haleigh Cummings vanished in part two of an "Early Show" interview. Misty Cummings was baby-sitting for the child when she disappeared from her father's Satsuma home in February.

Maggie Rodriguez conducted the interview, which concludes Monday. The first part aired this morning.

Also on Monday, Rodriguez will have a live interview with Ronald Cummings, Misty's husband, about her comments. "The Early Show" starts at 7 a.m. on WKMG-Channel 6. CS offered this excerpt from Monday's interview with Misty Cummings:

Rodriguez: "Your brother told police that when he went to the trailer that night, that you were supposedly putting Haleigh to bed -- that you weren't there. Did you go somewhere that night?"

Cummings: "No, I did not. Did not leave my house at all."

Rodriguez: "Why did he tell police you weren't there?"

Cummings: "Trying to get out of jail, that's what I think."

Rodriguez: "So your brother was in jail"

Cummings: "Yeah, he was in jail."

Rodriguez: "Your own brother would betray you like that?"

Cummings: "That's how my family is."

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/10/misty-cummings-tells-early-show-my-brother-would-betray-me.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 09, 2009, 05:18:27 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 09, 2009, 05:19:01 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


That made me laugh....just thinking about any of these folks in this case speaking French...what came to mind for me was that they might call it lets "sandwich up" ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 09, 2009, 05:19:50 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


ménage à trois



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 05:20:58 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


menage a trois


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 05:21:13 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 
I didn't know how to spell it so I didn't answer  ::MonkeyDevil:: But, yes that's the word. So Ron is going to be on the Early Show, to comment about what Misty said  ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 09, 2009, 05:21:46 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


ménage à trois



Well if ya wana get all fancy and technical.....

Mine was the sinsuma version... ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 05:23:36 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.

ménage à trois


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 05:24:09 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


That made me laugh....just thinking about any of these folks in this case speaking French...what came to mind for me was that they might call it lets "sandwich up" ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Omg~Just checked backed in and spit my drink everywhere...........a sandiwch would be the hillbilly word, I think menage a trois is the french word ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 05:24:11 PM
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-10/49747097.jpg)

Misty Croslin Cummings' statement 'absolutely ludicrous', attorney says

Misty Croslin Cummings said this morning on CBS' "The Early Show" that someone 'on the other side of the family' has Haleigh Cummings

Hal Boedeker and Willoughby Mariano Sentinel Staff Writers

3:44 p.m. EDT, October 9, 2009


An attorney for the father of missing Putnam County girl Haleigh Cummings said any suggestion his family had anything to do with the disappearance is "absolutely ludicrous."

Haleigh's stepmother, Misty Croslin Cummings, made the suggestion during her interview today on national television.

"Someone came in and got her, obviously," Misty Croslin Cummings, 17, told CBS' "The Early Show." "I feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her. That's just how I feel."

Later, Ronald Cummings' attorney Brandon Beardsley called Misty Cummings' statement "absolutely ludicrous."

"That was stated merely for the purpose of deflecting attention away from her," Beardsley told the Orlando Sentinel.

Misty Cummings didn't provide any details and she wasn't pressed for more information.

She was the last person to see Haleigh before she vanished overnight from her father's Satsuma trailer in February.

She was baby-sitting for her then-boyfriend Ronald Cummings, 25. The girl was 5 at the time.

Misty Cummings married Ronald Cummings about a month after the disappearance. This week, he announced on the Nancy Grace show that he is seeking a divorce.

Misty Cummings has faced close scrutiny. Investigators interviewed her repeatedly, and the teen reportedly failed a polygraph test.

The stepmother was grim and subdued during today's interview. She wore a T-shirt bearing Haleigh's picture, which read "Have You Seen Me?"

A representative from "The Early Show" said it covered Misty Cummings' travel and lodging expenses, which is standard.

Misty Cummings said those who suspect her in the disappearance should focus elsewhere. Her husband has told her he doesn't think she's guilty, she said, and investigators have probed her actions extensively.

"I don't think they looked at everyone as close as they looked at me," she said.

Authorities said the child was abducted. No one has been named as suspect and no arrests have been made.

Misty Cummings made news in Metro Orlando this week after she and another woman were accused of a road-range incident on Interstate 4. The women were detained and later released without being charged.

It happened Wednesday, the same day her husband announced plans for a divorce.

In Friday's interview, Misty Cummings said there's little chance her marriage will survive.

"If something happens down the road, then we might end up back together," Misty Cummings said.

Beardsley expects the divorce papers to be signed next week. The couple have no shared assets or children, so the process should end quickly, he said.

Misty Cummings said she hopes for Haleigh's return.

"I want things to be back to normal. I want Haleigh home, definitely," she added. "I feel in my heart she is still alive."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-misty-interview-100909,0,2970842.story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 09, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


ménage à trois



Well if ya wana get all fancy and technical.....

Mine was the sinsuma version... ::MonkeyDevil2::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 05:24:30 PM
hahaha I guess I did not need to log in for that...but here it is anywho..
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_manaja_twa

I also want to say I was wrong about TM and the D Brock thing.. I just could not let myself believe he would get involved in the circus like that.. This case is crazy and making people do crazy things.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 09, 2009, 05:25:46 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


ménage à trois



Was it said that Ronald participated in the threesome....sorry to say this but Ronald strikes me as the type that would participate in some kinky behavior  with Misty and another, that is probably why he did not raise more he77 when it was told she had sex with WBG....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 05:28:18 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 05:29:49 PM
Misty did the Early Showinterview without the blessing of her attorney. Mr. Fields advised Misty not to do the Early Show interview per Natisha Lance on HLN

Natisha also said that she spoke with Marie Griffis and Marie thought that Misty was referring to Ron's side of the family when Misty stated on the Early Show that she thought the other side of the family took HaLeigh and that she thought HaLeigh is still  alive.

Thanks for the update, Heart.

I also wondered what Misty meant by "the other side of the family." My first thought was Ronald's. My second was Crystal's.

I am not sure yet what she meant!

I thought she was talking about the Sheffield side of the family, when she said the other side, since there are only 2 sides.  Misty is not blood kin, so therefore she has no side.  I would have never assumed that she was talking about Ronald's side of HaLeigh's family.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 05:34:44 PM
hahaha I guess I did not need to log in for that...but here it is anywho..
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_manaja_twa

I also want to say I was wrong about TM and the D Brock thing.. I just could not let myself believe he would get involved in the circus like that.. This case is crazy and making people do crazy things.

I think he'd do whatever he had to do to find a child, barring anything illegal, and kudos to him for trying to bring this baby home and lay her to rest.

When you consider his thought on the "two" of them in the audios, I think he did the right thing, and it's too bad it was exposed.

Gotta run, there is the phone call I've been waiting on.........

Drinks on the beach ::MonkeyDevil2:: I'll be thinking of y'all!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 09, 2009, 05:35:30 PM
Misty did the Early Showinterview without the blessing of her attorney. Mr. Fields advised Misty not to do the Early Show interview per Natisha Lance on HLN

Natisha also said that she spoke with Marie Griffis and Marie thought that Misty was referring to Ron's side of the family when Misty stated on the Early Show that she thought the other side of the family took HaLeigh and that she thought HaLeigh is still  alive.

Thanks for the update, Heart.

I also wondered what Misty meant by "the other side of the family." My first thought was Ronald's. My second was Crystal's.

I am not sure yet what she meant!

I thought she was talking about the Sheffield side of the family, when she said the other side, since there are only 2 sides.  Misty is not blood kin, so therefore she has no side.  I would have never assumed that she was talking about Ronald's side of HaLeigh's family.

Ronalds lawyer was quick to make a statement.....Makes the old saying "guilty dog always barks" come to mind.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 09, 2009, 05:36:12 PM
just logging in for the first time today and what do I see? not sure since I haven't read back on this thread or the end of the last one...something about a 3 some with Ron/Misty?did I read that right?? I just threw up in my throat again...I only read the post ahead of mine so I could be way off....

...I had to have an all day lie down since HH and I were actually agreeing on several things last night... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyTease::

seriously, I will be busy this weekend with class reunion stuff and company but will try to check in...darn..I feel like I am missing something if I am not on here! will catch up with you all soon...am listening to HLN while I am getting ready to go..don't get too far ahead of me!!!
God bless Haleigh and keep the faith Monkeys...Haleigh needs to be found soon!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 09, 2009, 05:37:29 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Hello Searching  :smt006

Hope youre having a great friday!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 05:39:19 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Hello Searching  :smt006

Hope youre having a great friday!!!!

Hi SC same to you.. may wanna turn scanners on

reilly57 @MysticFlower14 omg crystal sheffeild just got stopped3 minutes ago from web


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 09, 2009, 05:41:05 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Hello Searching  :smt006

Hope youre having a great friday!!!!

Hi SC same to you.. may wanna turn scanners on

reilly57 @MysticFlower14 omg crystal sheffeild just got stopped3 minutes ago from web


Ohhh great  ::MonkeyRoll::

I was holding out hope for her being the noramlist (<--------not a real word FWIW) one of them all  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 05:42:23 PM
hahaha I guess I did not need to log in for that...but here it is anywho..
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_manaja_twa

I also want to say I was wrong about TM and the D Brock thing.. I just could not let myself believe he would get involved in the circus like that.. This case is crazy and making people do crazy things.
I didn't think TM would either. When I think of all the speculation about who was paying for the fun trip Misty went on and it being Teresa's boyfriend now makes me laugh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 05:43:24 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 

Menage A Trois   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 05:45:43 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Hello Searching  :smt006

Hope youre having a great friday!!!!

Hi SC same to you.. may wanna turn scanners on

reilly57 @MysticFlower14 omg crystal sheffeild just got stopped3 minutes ago from web


Oh good grief I can't find my link.Can you give it to me.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 05:45:44 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Please don't run to the rafters to "shut up!"

We need everyone's opinions and fact-gathering expertise!

I also could not fathom TM getting involved to the extent of bringing this Donna Brock into the fray!

But, apparently, he did.

Keep posting with us!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 05:48:22 PM
Misty did the Early Showinterview without the blessing of her attorney. Mr. Fields advised Misty not to do the Early Show interview per Natisha Lance on HLN

Natisha also said that she spoke with Marie Griffis and Marie thought that Misty was referring to Ron's side of the family when Misty stated on the Early Show that she thought the other side of the family took HaLeigh and that she thought HaLeigh is still  alive.

Thanks for the update, Heart.

I also wondered what Misty meant by "the other side of the family." My first thought was Ronald's. My second was Crystal's.

I am not sure yet what she meant!

I thought she was talking about the Sheffield side of the family, when she said the other side, since there are only 2 sides.  Misty is not blood kin, so therefore she has no side.  I would have never assumed that she was talking about Ronald's side of HaLeigh's family.

I thought she was talking from her perspective ... as wife of Ronald. There are two sides of that family. His, and hers. Her side has been blamed for the breakup of the marriage, in part.

That's why I was thinking first she meant Ronald's side, then upon reflection, maybe she meant Crystal's.

All of us read/see things in our own way. That's why it is good to have lots of opinions.

JMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 05:49:06 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 05:53:04 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Please don't run to the rafters to "shut up!"

We need everyone's opinions and fact-gathering expertise!

I also could not fathom TM getting involved to the extent of bringing this Donna Brock into the fray!

But, apparently, he did.

Keep posting with us!

I'm with Brandi.I was shocked too.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 05:53:15 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Hello Searching  :smt006

Hope youre having a great friday!!!!

Hi SC same to you.. may wanna turn scanners on

reilly57 @MysticFlower14 omg crystal sheffeild just got stopped3 minutes ago from web


Oh good grief I can't find my link.Can you give it to me.   ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 05:53:29 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: I'm never getting home...........carp.

Anyway, still waiting and found the calls transcribed by CrimeSeekers: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

This is what I was trying to do, but it went too fast:



AUDIO: TES's Tim Miller Talks About Misty's Friend Donna Brock and More
Posted: Friday, 09 October 2009 3:49PM
TJ Hart/Rozie Franco/FNN/CBS TV


More stunning audio is coming out from Texas EquuSearch Director Tim Miller, the man who coordinated some of the ground searches for missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma in February and who arranged for the child's stepmother to be polygraphed and hypnotized.

Miller spoke with 97.3 The Sky's news partner The Florida Radio Network. Rozie Franco conducted the interview and she asked Miller, " Who is Misty Cummings' friend, Donna Brock and what is she doing?"

Miller did not hesitate to answer.

Miller also stated in an earlier interview with FNN's Rozie Franco that he, too, was told early on that Misty wasn't at home the night Haleigh disappeared.

Misty appeared on the CBS Early Show Friday morning and started pointing fingers in the disappearance of young Haleigh. She said she feels 'someone on the other side of the family has Haleigh."



Quote:
Phone conversation (audio/transcribed) between Tim Miller and The Florida Radio Network, Rozie Franco:

Tim Miller speaking:

...To go ahead and get Misty's nails done, to get her hair done, to take her to uh, Daytona, to take her to Universal Studios and stuff to try to get closer and closer and closer to her to get information so we could find HaLeigh. I was still spending money as of two days ago; wire transferred $300 more dollars to Donna. And we was doing everything that we could do so Donna could be a mother. So Donna was taking her to church, had a private meeting with the pastor. We felt as though the closer we could get her to the pastor and stuff, maybe she would go in there and confess to the pastor, uh, whatever the hell it was going to take for us to find Haleigh.

Rozie Franco: Right. Now Donna, is she one of your closest volunteers? Where is she....

Tim Miller: She is one that yeah, did a good job but she is one that would fit in as a mother that Misty never had. That somebody Misty could trust. You know, I mean nobody ever took Misty to the mall or nobody ever took Misty to get her nails done, nobody ever did any of that. So it's one of them things that you know, let's go ahead and play this Donna. You're gonna be the mother, I'll spend the damn money, work on this girl and everything and let's see if you can just go ahead and get her to break and say where in the hell little HaLeigh's at.

And when they put something together to that point that they know a jury's going to find her guilty and whether they'd have to take her in there first like they did Casey and take her in on child endangerment and false police reports, uh, and hold her under high bond or what. And you know what, here's what I truly believe from my heart, .... After spending as much time as I spent with those damn hillbillies is that number 1, she is scared to death to go to jail. She is scared to death to go to jail and I think the other reason she is not giving anything up is because of all these damn drug addicts thugs that she hangs out with, if she goes ahead and gives up what really happened, she fears for her life because uh, these these thugs'll kill her. END

Transcribed by Crimeseekers; Must give credit if copied. ©

To listen to the audio & watch video of Misty on Early Show:
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5406914.php


http://crimeseekers.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=3712&pid=9903#pid9903


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 05:55:26 PM
hangnon2hope Moderator and owner of WebSleuths allow misinformation on the sexual assault of a minor to be posted Do they have no morals! VICTIMS RIGHTS!about 4 hours ago from web
   
hangnon2hope WS who is supposed to represent VICTIMS allows this misinformation to be posted over and over with no consequence to the poster.about 4 hours ago from web
 
hangnon2hope WS allows posters to inaccurately post information on a minor victim's sexual assault case The State of Florida SAID the minor was a victimabout 4 hours ago from web

What the heck does this mean, who were they posting info. about


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 05:57:02 PM
Misty did the Early Showinterview without the blessing of her attorney. Mr. Fields advised Misty not to do the Early Show interview per Natisha Lance on HLN

Natisha also said that she spoke with Marie Griffis and Marie thought that Misty was referring to Ron's side of the family when Misty stated on the Early Show that she thought the other side of the family took HaLeigh and that she thought HaLeigh is still  alive.

Thanks for the update, Heart.

I also wondered what Misty meant by "the other side of the family." My first thought was Ronald's. My second was Crystal's.

I am not sure yet what she meant!

I thought she was talking about the Sheffield side of the family, when she said the other side, since there are only 2 sides.  Misty is not blood kin, so therefore she has no side.  I would have never assumed that she was talking about Ronald's side of HaLeigh's family.

I thought she was talking from her perspective ... as wife of Ronald. There are two sides of that family. His, and hers. Her side has been blamed for the breakup of the marriage, in part.

That's why I was thinking first she meant Ronald's side, then upon reflection, maybe she meant Crystal's.

All of us read/see things in our own way. That's why it is good to have lots of opinions.

JMO.

my first thought was she meant Crystals side.. this is getting crazy. is it just me or does anyone else have an over whelming urge to shake her teeth out along with the truth... any who, was shocked at how quickly Ron's atty jumped to the defensive as like I said, I thought she meant Crystals side and thought they would as well...  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 05:57:06 PM
Thanks IM, and now Crystal was pulled over by the police  ::MonkeyEek:: I don't know how much more of this case I can take  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 05:59:07 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: I'm never getting home...........carp.

Anyway, still waiting and found the calls transcribed by CrimeSeekers: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

This is what I was trying to do, but it went too fast:



AUDIO: TES's Tim Miller Talks About Misty's Friend Donna Brock and More
Posted: Friday, 09 October 2009 3:49PM
TJ Hart/Rozie Franco/FNN/CBS TV


More stunning audio is coming out from Texas EquuSearch Director Tim Miller, the man who coordinated some of the ground searches for missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma in February and who arranged for the child's stepmother to be polygraphed and hypnotized.

Miller spoke with 97.3 The Sky's news partner The Florida Radio Network. Rozie Franco conducted the interview and she asked Miller, " Who is Misty Cummings' friend, Donna Brock and what is she doing?"

Miller did not hesitate to answer.

Miller also stated in an earlier interview with FNN's Rozie Franco that he, too, was told early on that Misty wasn't at home the night Haleigh disappeared.

Misty appeared on the CBS Early Show Friday morning and started pointing fingers in the disappearance of young Haleigh. She said she feels 'someone on the other side of the family has Haleigh."



Quote:
Phone conversation (audio/transcribed) between Tim Miller and The Florida Radio Network, Rozie Franco:

Quote:
(Tim Miller on phone with Rozie Franco): PART ONE

Tim Miller: There are two things Misty is afraid of:

The polygraph clearly shows Misty knows where HaLeigh is and what happened to her. One of the questions was: Have you intentionally withheld any information about HaLeigh's disappearance? Misty said "no" and it was 99% deception. Another question was: Do you know where HaLeigh is? Misty answered "no" and 95% deception. She totally, totally blew that polygraph.

During the original search for HaLeigh, Lisa and Tim stopped in a little bar on a Sunday night. Girl in a bar wanted to talk to Tim Miller and told him that Misty wasn't home that night. Misty was at a party and was snorting oxycotin, smoking pot, and Misty and another girl had a threesome that night.

Girl in bar had gone over there to buy drugs and saw Misty there. Girl on probation and did not want to tell but showed Tim where the house was. Tim brought this up to Misty and Ronald six weeks ago in Orlando, they know the spot; it's their friends and this girl was telling the truth. Tim got LE involved and they questioned this girl but also said they aren't sure if it was the same night because people doing these drugs get things confused what day is what.

Tim told TN about it and the threesome. This is the kind of life they are living and having this 5-year-old child in, dragging this 5-year-old child around or leaving alone. All the thugs and drug addicts they hang out with. With what poor little Junior has to live with too. Disgrace to American society that two people can do this to two small children that will never have a chance in this world. All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met.

Transcribed by Crimeseekers; Must give credit it copied. ©



Tim Miller speaking: PART TWO
...To go ahead and get Misty's nails done, to get her hair done, to take her to uh, Daytona, to take her to Universal Studios and stuff to try to get closer and closer and closer to her to get information so we could find HaLeigh. I was still spending money as of two days ago; wire transferred $300 more dollars to Donna. And we was doing everything that we could do so Donna could be a mother. So Donna was taking her to church, had a private meeting with the pastor. We felt as though the closer we could get her to the pastor and stuff, maybe she would go in there and confess to the pastor, uh, whatever the hell it was going to take for us to find Haleigh.

Rozie Franco: Right. Now Donna, is she one of your closest volunteers? Where is she....

Tim Miller: She is one that yeah, did a good job but she is one that would fit in as a mother that Misty never had. That somebody Misty could trust. You know, I mean nobody ever took Misty to the mall or nobody ever took Misty to get her nails done, nobody ever did any of that. So it's one of them things that you know, let's go ahead and play this Donna. You're gonna be the mother, I'll spend the damn money, work on this girl and everything and let's see if you can just go ahead and get her to break and say where in the hell little HaLeigh's at.

And when they put something together to that point that they know a jury's going to find her guilty and whether they'd have to take her in there first like they did Casey and take her in on child endangerment and false police reports, uh, and hold her under high bond or what. And you know what, here's what I truly believe from my heart, .... After spending as much time as I spent with those damn hillbillies is that number 1, she is scared to death to go to jail. She is scared to death to go to jail and I think the other reason she is not giving anything up is because of all these damn drug addicts thugs that she hangs out with, if she goes ahead and gives up what really happened, she fears for her life because uh, these these thugs'll kill her. END
Transcribed by Crimeseekers; Must give credit if copied. ©

To listen to the audio & watch video of Misty on Early Show:
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5406914.php


http://crimeseekers.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=3712&pid=9903#pid9903


EDIT......left out part one, regarding the misty samich ::MonkeyDevil2::



Thanks NCRG.........could be a simple traffic ticket, isn't today her day to pick up butterbean??????

Heck, by the time I make it to my appt with custi , I'll be wanting to get drunk  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 09, 2009, 05:59:31 PM
I could see TM doing this. And I also get his reasons. Misty was raised by wolves and she knows nothing else but. That's why Ron looked good to her. She might have a better life if she did just come clean and go to jail.
Her life is worse than if she was in jail.
Where can she go now ? Find some pimp ?
Be 50 in three years ? That is where she is heading.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: NCSunny on October 09, 2009, 05:59:50 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Hello Searching  :smt006

Hope youre having a great friday!!!!

Hi SC same to you.. may wanna turn scanners on

reilly57 @MysticFlower14 omg crystal sheffeild just got stopped3 minutes ago from web


Good thinking Searching...Evening Monkeys & guests..

What did Crystal get stopped for ??

Looks like its going to be a bumpy night..  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 09, 2009, 06:00:07 PM
Misty did the Early Showinterview without the blessing of her attorney. Mr. Fields advised Misty not to do the Early Show interview per Natisha Lance on HLN

Natisha also said that she spoke with Marie Griffis and Marie thought that Misty was referring to Ron's side of the family when Misty stated on the Early Show that she thought the other side of the family took HaLeigh and that she thought HaLeigh is still  alive.

Thanks for the update, Heart.

I also wondered what Misty meant by "the other side of the family." My first thought was Ronald's. My second was Crystal's.

I am not sure yet what she meant!

I thought she was talking about the Sheffield side of the family, when she said the other side, since there are only 2 sides.  Misty is not blood kin, so therefore she has no side.  I would have never assumed that she was talking about Ronald's side of HaLeigh's family.

I thought she was talking from her perspective ... as wife of Ronald. There are two sides of that family. His, and hers. Her side has been blamed for the breakup of the marriage, in part.

That's why I was thinking first she meant Ronald's side, then upon reflection, maybe she meant Crystal's.

All of us read/see things in our own way. That's why it is good to have lots of opinions.

JMO.

my first thought was she meant Crystals side.. this is getting crazy. is it just me or does anyone else have an over whelming urge to shake her teeth out along with the truth... any who, was shocked at how quickly Ron's atty jumped to the defensive as like I said, I thought she meant Crystals side and thought they would as well...  ::MonkeyConfused::

I say we put her in one of those paint can shaker uppers  :shaking:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:00:31 PM
 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::
Home
Inbox Sent


HaleighNewz Just confirmed through family member that Crystal has not been pulled over in Putnam County.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 06:01:53 PM
hahaha I guess I did not need to log in for that...but here it is anywho..
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_manaja_twa

I also want to say I was wrong about TM and the D Brock thing.. I just could not let myself believe he would get involved in the circus like that.. This case is crazy and making people do crazy things.

 In addition to Texas EquuSearch, Orlando attorney Mark Nejame is assisting the Cummings in finding Haleigh. "I just wanted someone to look for her," said Haleigh’s grandmother, Teresa Neves, in an interview with FOX 35. Neves said she contacted Nejame a few weeks ago, hoping he could help.

" A child is missing and she is innocent and she is gone and we need to use any efforts we can to help her, so that is what we are doing,” said Nejame.

Miller said there are no new leads bringing him back to Florida; however, Nejame said there are new theories about where Haleigh might be, but would not say what those theories are.

During Monday’s news conference, Haleigh’s family released balloons with missing person fliers inside to mark her birthday.

http://www.nejamelaw.com/mark-nejame-in-the-news/haleigh-cummings-turns-6-years-old.htm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 06:02:48 PM
HaleighNewz Just confirmed through family member that Crystal has not been pulled over in Putnam County.less than a minute ago from HootSuite

WTH is going on????   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

# reilly57 poor crystal probably went to get junior18 minutes ago from web
   
# reilly61reilly57 @ putnam scanner just called it in21 minutes ago from web
   
# reilly61reilly57 maybe crystal went to beat truth out of misty22 minutes ago from web
   
# reilly61reilly57 @MysticFlower14 running plates now23 minutes ago from web
       
# MysticFlowerMysticFlower14 @reilly57 OMG. Keep me updated on Crystal25 minutes ago from web in reply to reilly57
 
# reilly61reilly57 @MysticFlower14 omg crystal sheffeild just got stopped26 minutes ago from web


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 06:08:18 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Hello Searching  :smt006

Hope youre having a great friday!!!!

Hi SC same to you.. may wanna turn scanners on

reilly57 @MysticFlower14 omg crystal sheffeild just got stopped3 minutes ago from web


Good thinking Searching...Evening Monkeys & guests..

What did Crystal get stopped for ??

Looks like its going to be a bumpy night..  ::MonkeyTongue::
Bumpy, might wanna put your crash gear on the turbulence are terrible..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 06:08:24 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 

Thank-you, ScareyCarrie,

The word is good, Minagetwa.....French/Monkey Language? 

Things are becoming clearer to me, why Timmy called Ron a Fagtwa...


I hope you know what I mean, I don't have the police report, RC filed PR on Timmy (who left a message on R's phone calling him...
a here we go, a Fagtwa)...It must be the Minagetwa's the threesome meetings, RC may have engaged in Bisexualwa.
Good Grief, I hope I am discreet without being  annoying, enough of my twa. Thank-you again for the French/Monkey word:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 06:10:24 PM
I could see TM doing this. And I also get his reasons. Misty was raised by wolves and she knows nothing else but. That's why Ron looked good to her. She might have a better life if she did just come clean and go to jail.
Her life is worse than if she was in jail.
Where can she go now ? Find some pimp ?
Be 50 in three years ? That is where she is heading.

Totally agree, and like I mentioned yesterday, I believe not only did TM set this up, but he did it also because he is kind.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:10:29 PM
HLN covering the case now ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 06:10:35 PM
# reilly57 @HaleighNewz do you know what kind of vec she drives???1 minute ago from web
   
# MysticFlowerMysticFlower14 @HaleighNewz Thanks so much for RT that. :))3 minutes ago from web in reply to HaleighNewz
   
# reilly61reilly57 @HaleighNewz but ill sit back in corner again...6 minutes ago from web
   
# reilly61reilly57 @HaleighNewz it said crystal sheffield gold silverado all i know and date of birth didnt get all but 1985 was the year of birth8 minutes ago from web


 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 06:10:58 PM
::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::
Home
Inbox Sent


HaleighNewz Just confirmed through family member that Crystal has not been pulled over in Putnam County.
Thanks  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 09, 2009, 06:11:34 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 

Thank-you, ScareyCarrie,

The word is good, Minagetwa.....French/Monkey Language? 

Things are becoming clearer to me, why Timmy called Ron a Fagtwa...


I hope you know what I mean, I don't have the police report, RC filed PR on Timmy (who left a message on R's phone calling him...
a here we go, a Fagtwa)...It must be the Minagetwa's the threesome meetings, RC may have engaged in Bisexualwa.
Good Grief, I hope I am discreet without being  annoying, enough of my twa. Thank-you again for the French/Monkey word:)

Oh i'm catchin what your throwin here....  ::MonkeyWink::

No prob! im here all week 7-3:30, free of charge ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: NCSunny on October 09, 2009, 06:11:47 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Hello Searching  :smt006

Hope youre having a great friday!!!!

Hi SC same to you.. may wanna turn scanners on

reilly57 @MysticFlower14 omg crystal sheffeild just got stopped3 minutes ago from web


Good thinking Searching...Evening Monkeys & guests..

What did Crystal get stopped for ??

Looks like its going to be a bumpy night..  ::MonkeyTongue::
Bumpy, might wanna put your crash gear on the turbulence are terrible..


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 06:12:32 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 

Thank-you, ScareyCarrie,

The word is good, Minagetwa.....French/Monkey Language? 

Things are becoming clearer to me, why Timmy called Ron a Fagtwa...


I hope you know what I mean, I don't have the police report, RC filed PR on Timmy (who left a message on R's phone calling him...
a here we go, a Fagtwa)...It must be the Minagetwa's the threesome meetings, RC may have engaged in Bisexualwa.
Good Grief, I hope I am discreet without being  annoying, enough of my twa. Thank-you again for the French/Monkey word:)
Now that is interesting, and could very well be  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 06:13:01 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 

Thank-you, ScareyCarrie,

The word is good, Minagetwa.....French/Monkey Language? 

Things are becoming clearer to me, why Timmy called Ron a Fagtwa...


I hope you know what I mean, I don't have the police report, RC filed PR on Timmy (who left a message on R's phone calling him...
a here we go, a Fagtwa)...It must be the Minagetwa's the threesome meetings, RC may have engaged in Bisexualwa.
Good Grief, I hope I am discreet without being  annoying, enough of my twa. Thank-you again for the French/Monkey word:)

That is the word of the day today, there will be a quiz on it tomorrow.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 06:13:23 PM
Just confirmed through family member that Crystal has not been pulled over in Putnam County.14 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 06:13:47 PM
All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met. Coming from TM, and for me that is all I need, he summed it up nicely  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 06:15:47 PM
Just confirmed through family member that Crystal has not been pulled over in Putnam County.14 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

yes heart, did you see my post? this is crazy.. do we know if a family member has a gold silverado? maybe the fam don't want it all over or ...... not every bit of info is accurate so just covering bases.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:17:07 PM
@reilly57 she does not drive the vehicle that you described and she is NOT in Putnam county at this time
4 minutes ago from web in reply to reilly57

from Florida Artist


I thought this was her vehicle


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 06:19:09 PM
I'm back to the rafters as my head is still spinning from all this...I think the thug friends referred to were nay nay and company, but what the heck do I know, I never would have thought TM was involved in the other so I am just shutting up..have a good night

Hello Searching  :smt006

Hope youre having a great friday!!!!


Hi Monkeys,

Crystal Sheffield does not own or drive a gold silverado. She was not pulled over. Verbal confirmation over phone. Not even in Putnam Co.

2 minutes ago from HootSuite Just confirmed through family member that Crystal has not been pulled over in Putnam County.
There is confusion somewhere...Hi SC same to you.. may wanna turn scanners on

reilly57 @MysticFlower14 omg crystal sheffeild just got stopped3 minutes ago from web

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

 ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:19:18 PM
@reilly57 she does not drive the vehicle that you described and she is NOT in Putnam county at this time
4 minutes ago from web in reply to reilly57

from Florida Artist


I thought this was her vehicle


My bad, wrong photo ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 09, 2009, 06:19:48 PM
hahaha I guess I did not need to log in for that...but here it is anywho..
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_manaja_twa

I also want to say I was wrong about TM and the D Brock thing.. I just could not let myself believe he would get involved in the circus like that.. This case is crazy and making people do crazy things.

Searching I had to take a breather and meditate on it and darned if I don't have more questions now.  Like who is this Courtney chick and was she part of blowing their cover?  And the same old one I have always had who is Misty covering for?  Stay and help woman.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:20:34 PM
::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::
Home
Inbox Sent


HaleighNewz Just confirmed through family member that Crystal has not been pulled over in Putnam County.
Thanks  ::MonkeyConfused::

YW ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 09, 2009, 06:23:22 PM
I would pay Tim Miller to let me "Mother" her for a day!!!!!!

Forgot my manners...Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 06:24:14 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 

Thank-you, ScareyCarrie,

The word is good, Minagetwa.....French/Monkey Language? 

Things are becoming clearer to me, why Timmy called Ron a Fagtwa...


I hope you know what I mean, I don't have the police report, RC filed PR on Timmy (who left a message on R's phone calling him...
a here we go, a Fagtwa)...It must be the Minagetwa's the threesome meetings, RC may have engaged in Bisexualwa.
Good Grief, I hope I am discreet without being  annoying, enough of my twa. Thank-you again for the French/Monkey word:)

That is the word of the day today, there will be a quiz on it tomorrow.
::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:24:17 PM
All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met. Coming from TM, and for me that is all I need, he summed it up nicely  ::MonkeyNoNo::

that coupled with these seal the deal for me:




This is the kind of life they are living and having this 5-year-old child in, dragging this 5-year-old child around or leaving alone. All the thugs and drug addicts they hang out with. With what poor little Junior has to live with too. Disgrace to American society that two people can do this to two small children that will never have a chance in this world.
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

After spending as much time as I spent with those damn hillbillies is that number 1, she is scared to death to go to jail. She is scared to death to go to jail and I think the other reason she is not giving anything up is because of all these damn drug addicts thugs that she hangs out with, if she goes ahead and gives up what really happened, she fears for her life because uh, these these thugs'll kill her. END ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 09, 2009, 06:26:57 PM
Have a great evening everyone!

Hope Haleigh comes home this weekend!!!!

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:26:59 PM
I would pay Tim Miller to let me "Mother" her for a day!!!!!!

Forgot my manners...Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

Me too Darla ::MonkeyDevil2:: even an hour would work........... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 06:33:11 PM
I would pay Tim Miller to let me "Mother" her for a day!!!!!!

Forgot my manners...Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDevil::  Me too


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 06:33:13 PM


Hello Monkeys and guests,


Tim Millers words put in a few paragraphs from the audio.

http://crimeseekers.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=3709


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 06:33:33 PM
Have a great evening everyone!

Hope Haleigh comes home this weekend!!!!

 ::MonkeyBike::
You too  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 06:34:14 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 

Thank-you, ScareyCarrie,

The word is good, Minagetwa.....French/Monkey Language? 

Things are becoming clearer to me, why Timmy called Ron a Fagtwa...


I hope you know what I mean, I don't have the police report, RC filed PR on Timmy (who left a message on R's phone calling him...
a here we go, a Fagtwa)...It must be the Minagetwa's the threesome meetings, RC may have engaged in Bisexualwa.
Good Grief, I hope I am discreet without being  annoying, enough of my twa. Thank-you again for the French/Monkey word:)

That is the word of the day today, there will be a quiz on it tomorrow.

You are so funny.
Thanks for the scanner link.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 06:34:52 PM
All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met. Coming from TM, and for me that is all I need, he summed it up nicely  ::MonkeyNoNo::

that coupled with these seal the deal for me:




This is the kind of life they are living and having this 5-year-old child in, dragging this 5-year-old child around or leaving alone. All the thugs and drug addicts they hang out with. With what poor little Junior has to live with too. Disgrace to American society that two people can do this to two small children that will never have a chance in this world.
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

After spending as much time as I spent with those damn hillbillies is that number 1, she is scared to death to go to jail. She is scared to death to go to jail and I think the other reason she is not giving anything up is because of all these damn drug addicts thugs that she hangs out with, if she goes ahead and gives up what really happened, she fears for her life because uh, these these thugs'll kill her. END ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Yes, enough said, and how Teresa could praise Misty, and think it was a good idea for her to play mommy is beyond me  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 06:35:03 PM
I would pay Tim Miller to let me "Mother" her for a day!!!!!!

Forgot my manners...Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDevil::  Me too

Me 3.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 06:36:46 PM
All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met. Coming from TM, and for me that is all I need, he summed it up nicely  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Agreed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 09, 2009, 06:37:21 PM
Ok now that answers my questions about who has more family members in tune to this case online.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:38:15 PM
All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met. Coming from TM, and for me that is all I need, he summed it up nicely  ::MonkeyNoNo::

that coupled with these seal the deal for me:




This is the kind of life they are living and having this 5-year-old child in, dragging this 5-year-old child around or leaving alone. All the thugs and drug addicts they hang out with. With what poor little Junior has to live with too. Disgrace to American society that two people can do this to two small children that will never have a chance in this world.
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

After spending as much time as I spent with those damn hillbillies is that number 1, she is scared to death to go to jail. She is scared to death to go to jail and I think the other reason she is not giving anything up is because of all these damn drug addicts thugs that she hangs out with, if she goes ahead and gives up what really happened, she fears for her life because uh, these these thugs'll kill her. END ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Yes, enough said, and how Teresa could praise Misty, and think it was a good idea for her to play mommy is beyond me  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I guess because she was so similar to Ron............apparantly from what I heard it was common knowledge about Ron and Misty's drug activity ...........he's riht it is a d@mn disgrace that butterbean is still left there. :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 06:38:21 PM
All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met. Coming from TM, and for me that is all I need, he summed it up nicely  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Agreed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 06:38:34 PM
Is this where I pick up all of the prizes that I have won? ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:38:35 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:40:02 PM
Ok now that answers my questions about who has more family members in tune to this case online.



That I don't know, read something about it ealier on twitter.......when you find out, I'd love to know ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 06:43:14 PM
I would pay Tim Miller to let me "Mother" her for a day!!!!!!

Forgot my manners...Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDevil::  Me too

Me 3.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Come here child,  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 06:45:51 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Blumonkey, I totally agree.





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Sassycat on October 09, 2009, 06:46:00 PM
Hi Monks...Holy Carp!

I was one who thought Donna's connection to TES meant TM had set this up.  I just didn't realize the utter depravity of MC, RC, TN, etal.  I give major kudos to TM for not being afraid to speak the truth!  He is a hero.

Now, really, truly, where is Misty going to go.  This news is "out there" and IMO, Misty cannot go back to Ron and Satsuma.  She's "marked".

Maybe TM's speaking out is the final thing that will get this little wench to spill what she knows.  She is not safe anywhere but in protective custody. 

Also IMO, the "victim" of road rage was a set-up or the story was highly embellished.  It doesn't pass the smell test with me.

Still catching up - sorry if this idea has already been put out there - but is it possible that this Donna woman was just trying to be "cool" and act like a bad-azz to gain Misty's respect so that she would eventually confide in her?    Maybe the road rage did happen - not as bad as the victim states - but maybe Donna and Misty were acting a little wild on the highway.   Maybe it was Donna's way to get closer to Misty - show Misty that she's cool, too.      just an idea.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 06:48:16 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, in defense of Tim's choice, he said he thought this Donna Brock would be someone with whom Misty could "relate." On that count, I agree. As a role model, I think she has a LOT missing!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 06:56:08 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Blumonkey, I totally agree.




Ditto here !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 09, 2009, 06:58:49 PM
Where are the two rascals now (mc rc)  did they secretly meet up in the big apple to take in a Broadway  show and a nice dinner. Do we know what the agenda for these two are for the weekend. ::MonkeyDevil2::When will we see their pics on TMZ along with Kate and Jon?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 06:59:26 PM
hahaha I guess I did not need to log in for that...but here it is anywho..
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_manaja_twa

I also want to say I was wrong about TM and the D Brock thing.. I just could not let myself believe he would get involved in the circus like that.. This case is crazy and making people do crazy things.

Searching I had to take a breather and meditate on it and darned if I don't have more questions now.  Like who is this Courtney chick and was she part of blowing their cover?  And the same old one I have always had who is Misty covering for?  Stay and help woman.
I don't know but this is all so crazy. I thought the A's were bad... as far as who misty is covering for, I am not sure, maybe just covering for herself,her thug friends or???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 07:05:04 PM
Oh wow, sounds like they had a jumper.. report of a wm on bridge praying and they jest called for me... Im gonna be sick..WTH is going on in that place.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 07:05:54 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::
How would have guessed, that just a little grooming opens up your mouth and you confess to things  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 07:05:56 PM
Oh wow, sounds like they had a jumper.. report of a wm on bridge praying and they jest called for m.e and crime scene units.... Im gonna be sick..WTH is going on in that place.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 07:07:01 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 

Menage A Trois   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Thank-you I wrote the word down on paper.  I was aiming at using a work that kids didn't know what it mean't,( just in case),
why I was seeking the French word. Thank-you everyone.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 07:07:53 PM
Hi Monks...Holy Carp!

I was one who thought Donna's connection to TES meant TM had set this up.  I just didn't realize the utter depravity of MC, RC, TN, etal.  I give major kudos to TM for not being afraid to speak the truth!  He is a hero.

Now, really, truly, where is Misty going to go.  This news is "out there" and IMO, Misty cannot go back to Ron and Satsuma.  She's "marked".

Maybe TM's speaking out is the final thing that will get this little wench to spill what she knows.  She is not safe anywhere but in protective custody. 

Also IMO, the "victim" of road rage was a set-up or the story was highly embellished.  It doesn't pass the smell test with me.

Still catching up - sorry if this idea has already been put out there - but is it possible that this Donna woman was just trying to be "cool" and act like a bad-azz to gain Misty's respect so that she would eventually confide in her?    Maybe the road rage did happen - not as bad as the victim states - but maybe Donna and Misty were acting a little wild on the highway.   Maybe it was Donna's way to get closer to Misty - show Misty that she's cool, too.      just an idea.
That's a great thought, could be Sassy, and wouldn't surprise me none.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 07:08:50 PM
Haleigh's stepmom suggests scrutinizing other family members

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer

Published: Friday, October 9, 2009 at 6:10 p.m.
Last Modified: Friday, October 9, 2009 at 6:11 p.m.

The stepmother of missing Putnam County girl Haleigh Cummings said in a national television interview Friday that she believes other family members have not been as closely scrutinized as she has and that stress -- not suspicion -- is behind her likely divorce.

Misty Croslin-Cummings, 17, was a guest on the CBS Early Show and again proclaimed her innocence.

"Someone came in and got her, obviously," she said. "I feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her. That's just how I feel. I don't think (investigators) have looked at everyone as close as they have me."

Croslin-Cummings is the stepmother of Haleigh, the then-5-year-old girl who disappeared from their Satsuma home in February. Croslin-Cummings — then the girlfriend and now the wife of Haleigh’s father, Ronald Cummings — has said she was at the home at the time the child vanished, according to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. She has said in interviews that she awoke to find the girl missing.

Dressed in a shirt with a large photo of Haleigh, Croslin-Cummings said Friday her likely divorce from Ronald Cummings is due to the stress of the situation.

"(Ronald Cummings) thinks it's just too much pressure on us right now," she said. "I don't think he believes I'm guilty. He hasn't said much about it. He believes me. He doesn't think I had anything to do with it."

Putnam County Sheriff's Lt. Johnny Greenwood said Friday that the department will not comment on statements made to the media by those involved in the case.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20091009/ARTICLES/910099945/1402/NEWS?Title=Haleigh-s-stepmom-suggests-scrutinizing-other-family-members


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 07:09:17 PM
M.E and major crimes was for something else, they are still in route to the jumper.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on October 09, 2009, 07:10:42 PM
Oh wow, sounds like they had a jumper.. report of a wm on bridge praying and they jest called for m.e and crime scene units.... Im gonna be sick..WTH is going on in that place.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Searching...I think what's going on in that place is DRUGS!  It sounds like an epidemic to me.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 07:12:25 PM
Oh wow, sounds like they had a jumper.. report of a wm on bridge praying and they jest called for m.e and crime scene units.... Im gonna be sick..WTH is going on in that place.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Searching...I think what's going on in that place is DRUGS!  It sounds like an epidemic to me.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

what ever it is, that place scares me....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 07:13:54 PM
Where are the two rascals now (mc rc)  did they secretly meet up in the big apple to take in a Broadway  show and a nice dinner. Do we know what the agenda for these two are for the weekend. ::MonkeyDevil2::When will we see their pics on TMZ along with Kate and Jon?
I wouldn't doubt it at all  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on October 09, 2009, 07:17:14 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, in defense of Tim's choice, he said he thought this Donna Brock would be someone with whom Misty could "relate." On that count, I agree. As a role model, I think she has a LOT missing!

ITA Brandi! 

In defense of both men's way of thinking, look at their ages. IMO, they believe all young women want to be pampered, loved and have a "mother figure" show them attention.  I can't fault them for that.  I am 49 and I am in complete shock at the behaviors of Misty and Casey.  I wouldn't have a clue where to start with either of them if I wanted to befriend them or gain their confidence.  Drug use, multiple sex partners, babies and bold face lying to LE - OMG.
There's nothing in my frame of reference to help me relate.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 07:17:44 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Blumonkey,

I hate to say this, but, TM needs to recruit a Cute punky guy to have a tryst with MC, she may open up in the sack.
That is the only way, I see Misty letting loose and revealing what happened, and lets her guard down.
This technique may outsmart this little beastly child, after shes turn 18 in December. IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 07:18:28 PM
Putnam County Sheriff's Office

Warrants Section


CUMMINGS,JAMES DEAN    W   M   7/05/1970   PROBATION VIOLATION


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 07:19:59 PM
Where are the two rascals now (mc rc)  did they secretly meet up in the big apple to take in a Broadway  show and a nice dinner. Do we know what the agenda for these two are for the weekend. ::MonkeyDevil2::When will we see their pics on TMZ along with Kate and Jon?
I wouldn't doubt it at all  ::MonkeyRoll::

I am still thinking it is highly probable that they "separated" in order to maximize money making potential. Misty goes her way to make as much as possible, Ronald and his mommy go another way. This way they double the money they are making off of this poor missing child.

Misty even said that they are going to "keep in touch with each other."

This is making me sicker by the day.





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sailcat on October 09, 2009, 07:22:46 PM
All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met. Coming from TM, and for me that is all I need, he summed it up nicely  ::MonkeyNoNo::

that coupled with these seal the deal for me:




This is the kind of life they are living and having this 5-year-old child in, dragging this 5-year-old child around or leaving alone. All the thugs and drug addicts they hang out with. With what poor little Junior has to live with too. Disgrace to American society that two people can do this to two small children that will never have a chance in this world.
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

After spending as much time as I spent with those damn hillbillies is that number 1, she is scared to death to go to jail. She is scared to death to go to jail and I think the other reason she is not giving anything up is because of all these damn drug addicts thugs that she hangs out with, if she goes ahead and gives up what really happened, she fears for her life because uh, these these thugs'll kill her. END ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Folks, let me share what little insight I have into this situation... I have worked in juvenile facilities for almost 20 years. I spend time every single day with people like Ron and Misty. The one thing I'm sure of is that people like you and me will never be able to understand them. It's almost like they're from another planet.

I have an unusually good group right now and would love to get their input into this case, but I doubt that I would be allowed to discuss it with them. Back during the early days of the Susan Smith saga, they were interviewing Susan Smith on the news and my students started chuckling. I asked them what in the world was so funny and they said, "She did it!" I said, "What are you talking about?" They told me she was "fake-crying" and that she was responsible. I thought they were crazy, but of course they ended up being correct - long before the truth was ferreted out by the authorities.

Ron and Misty and most of the lengthy cast of characters in this sad affair have bad heads. They don't think right. I'm sure that at least Misty knows far more than she's telling, but I don't believe she will ever give up what she knows. Lies and secrets are very deeply embedded in her culture and her psyche. -Sailcat



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 09, 2009, 07:24:05 PM
M.E and major crimes was for something else, they are still in route to the jumper.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Searching...a mom found her son dead in his residence I think...said no one had seen him in several days.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 07:25:18 PM
Oh wow, sounds like they had a jumper.. report of a wm on bridge praying and they jest called for m.e and crime scene units.... Im gonna be sick..WTH is going on in that place.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Searching...I think what's going on in that place is DRUGS!  It sounds like an epidemic to me.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 :smt045


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 09, 2009, 07:27:44 PM
M.E and major crimes was for something else, they are still in route to the jumper.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Searching...a mom found her son dead in his residence I think...said no one had seen him in several days.

ohh how sad for her.. that is a scary place really....I missed what was completely going on in that, I walked out when my 17 yr old son yelled get me a towel, found he had cut his hand trying to use a knife to open a food pachage, took care of that and walked in here to hear them talking about the possible jumper. then I hear the m.e and major crimes stuff and was just  ::MonkeyShocked::
really, that place scares me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on October 09, 2009, 07:28:00 PM
Is there any incentive for Misty to tell what she knows based upon being a juvenile when HaLeigh went missing - as opposed to turning 18 in December and continuing to lie to LE?

(Please don't throw nanners - I'm not too smart about this stuff)   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 09, 2009, 07:28:42 PM
Where are the two rascals now (mc rc)  did they secretly meet up in the big apple to take in a Broadway  show and a nice dinner. Do we know what the agenda for these two are for the weekend. ::MonkeyDevil2::When will we see their pics on TMZ along with Kate and Jon?
I wouldn't doubt it at all  ::MonkeyRoll::

I am still thinking it is highly probable that they "separated" in order to maximize money making potential. Misty goes her way to make as much as possible, Ronald and his mommy go another way. This way they double the money they are making off of this poor missing child.

Misty even said that they are going to "keep in touch with each other."

This is making me sicker by the day.




I think so too...money is the motive


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 07:30:09 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


ménage à trois



Was it said that Ronald participated in the threesome....sorry to say this but Ronald strikes me as the type that would participate in some kinky behavior  with Misty and another, that is probably why he did not raise more he77 when it was told she had sex with WBG....

It is a mystery if he was in a Me'nage a' Trolis or not, according to listening to TM, he seems to say this is how these people live. I would not rule the Hillbilly sandwich out, because TN knew about it and how does she know the Hillbilly Sandwich? Ha Ha. ::MonkeyKiss::  In all fairness I do not know, but, his pecker sure has a priority.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 07:32:14 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, in defense of Tim's choice, he said he thought this Donna Brock would be someone with whom Misty could "relate." On that count, I agree. As a role model, I think she has a LOT missing!

ITA Brandi! 

In defense of both men's way of thinking, look at their ages. IMO, they believe all young women want to be pampered, loved and have a "mother figure" show them attention.  I can't fault them for that.  I am 49 and I am in complete shock at the behaviors of Misty and Casey.  I wouldn't have a clue where to start with either of them if I wanted to befriend them or gain their confidence.  Drug use, multiple sex partners, babies and bold face lying to LE - OMG.
There's nothing in my frame of reference to help me relate.

Thanks for posting to this comment!

Just when I thought no one was reading my posts, too! LOL

(I was getting ready to go to the rafters myself!)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on October 09, 2009, 07:36:03 PM
Brandi,  I always read your posts.  You're a smart and kind Monkey...and incredibly talented too!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 07:38:17 PM
Is there any incentive for Misty to tell what she knows based upon being a juvenile when HaLeigh went missing - as opposed to turning 18 in December and continuing to lie to LE?

(Please don't throw nanners - I'm not too smart about this stuff)   ::MonkeyRoll::

Hi numbersgirl,

The best guess (for a incentive), if she doesn't tell the truth she will get a Hillbilly sandwich in jail.
If she plea bargains, maybe, she will find a way to avoid jail, if she discloses who else was involved?  IMO
Good things she likes sandwiches.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 07:39:46 PM
Brandi,  I always read your posts.  You're a smart and kind Monkey...and incredibly talented too!   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks. I was not looking for a compliment, but I graciously accept it.

But I know all of us occasionally feel left out. It's a feeling I fight a lot.

I will hush now with this drivel and apologize for the O/T.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 07:39:51 PM
Brandi,  I always read your posts.  You're a smart and kind Monkey...and incredibly talented too!   ::MonkeyWink::
::MonkeyAngel:: I second that!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 07:39:54 PM
I say let Misty keep talking and she will eventually make someone mad enough to tell something on her, she knows where HaLeigh is and if she doesnt know where she is she knows why she is gone, already they are starting to dispute each others words, see how fast Ronalds Lawyer was to jump in and proclaim Mistys statement as completely false,,,,and I still aint sure she was talking about Ronalds side of the family, and I just dont think she was, she has been talking very well about Ronald so I dont see her saying something to make him mad, I think she was talking about the Sheffields side, which is even crazier then saying Ronalds side, heck if someone on Ronalds side wanted to take HaLeigh they could have just agreed to babysit both kids and taken them both, so IMO thats out.....Misty knows and its gonna take more then this Donna woman to find out from her, its gonna take keeping her talking until she says something someone doesnt like or trips herself up and actually tells on herself..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 09, 2009, 07:41:38 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, in defense of Tim's choice, he said he thought this Donna Brock would be someone with whom Misty could "relate." On that count, I agree. As a role model, I think she has a LOT missing!

ITA Brandi! 

In defense of both men's way of thinking, look at their ages. IMO, they believe all young women want to be pampered, loved and have a "mother figure" show them attention.  I can't fault them for that.  I am 49 and I am in complete shock at the behaviors of Misty and Casey.  I wouldn't have a clue where to start with either of them if I wanted to befriend them or gain their confidence.  Drug use, multiple sex partners, babies and bold face lying to LE - OMG.
There's nothing in my frame of reference to help me relate.

Thanks for posting to this comment!

Just when I thought no one was reading my posts, too! LOL

(I was getting ready to go to the rafters myself!)


Brandi, I think in the beginning it was about HaLeigh then when the money started flowing Haleigh was put on the back burner.SO SAD


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 07:48:43 PM
Breaking developments -- Misty Croslin tells all in an exclusive interview, saying she thinks missing little Haleigh is alive and even blaming ''the other side of the family" for her disappearance! Does Croslin clear the air on a failed polygraph and statements police have called inconsistent, or just add to the confusion? Nancy Grace investigates, 8 & 10 p.m. ET on HLN!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 07:50:55 PM
Breaking developments -- Misty Croslin tells all in an exclusive interview, saying she thinks missing little Haleigh is alive and even blaming ''the other side of the family" for her disappearance! Does Croslin clear the air on a failed polygraph and statements police have called inconsistent, or just add to the confusion? Nancy Grace investigates, 8 & 10 p.m. ET on HLN!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Thanks,Brandi.I think I am finally caught up.   ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 07:52:26 PM
Breaking developments -- Misty Croslin tells all in an exclusive interview, saying she thinks missing little Haleigh is alive and even blaming ''the other side of the family" for her disappearance! Does Croslin clear the air on a failed polygraph and statements police have called inconsistent, or just add to the confusion? Nancy Grace investigates, 8 & 10 p.m. ET on HLN!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Thanks,Brandi.I think I am finally caught up.   ::MonkeyCheer4::

Not sure I can stomach NG tonight, myself.

But we have great monkeys who will clue those of us in who just cannot watch her. ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 07:55:24 PM
ORLANDO SENTINEL: Ronald Cummings Live of CBS Early Show on Monday. http://ow.ly/tFpUhalf a minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 09, 2009, 07:56:58 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, in defense of Tim's choice, he said he thought this Donna Brock would be someone with whom Misty could "relate." On that count, I agree. As a role model, I think she has a LOT missing!

ITA Brandi! 

In defense of both men's way of thinking, look at their ages. IMO, they believe all young women want to be pampered, loved and have a "mother figure" show them attention.  I can't fault them for that.  I am 49 and I am in complete shock at the behaviors of Misty and Casey.  I wouldn't have a clue where to start with either of them if I wanted to befriend them or gain their confidence.  Drug use, multiple sex partners, babies and bold face lying to LE - OMG.
There's nothing in my frame of reference to help me relate.

Thanks for posting to this comment!

Just when I thought no one was reading my posts, too! LOL

(I was getting ready to go to the rafters myself!)


Please don't go to the rafters, Brandi.  I have been trying to catch up & was way behind.  I've read your posts & have been shaking my head in agreement.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 07:57:37 PM
Breaking developments -- Misty Croslin tells all in an exclusive interview, saying she thinks missing little Haleigh is alive and even blaming ''the other side of the family" for her disappearance! Does Croslin clear the air on a failed polygraph and statements police have called inconsistent, or just add to the confusion? Nancy Grace investigates, 8 & 10 p.m. ET on HLN!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Thanks,Brandi.I think I am finally caught up.   ::MonkeyCheer4::

Not sure I can stomach NG tonight, myself.

But we have great monkeys who will clue those of us in who just cannot watch her. ;-)

I don't know if I can watch her either.   :pukel:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 07:58:00 PM
Misty: Family's 'Other Side' Has Haleigh
Missing Girl's Stepmother Appears On CBS's 'Early Show'

POSTED: Friday, October 9, 2009
UPDATED: 1:23 pm EDT October 9, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The last person to see Haleigh Cummings appeared in front of a national audience Friday morning on the CBS "Early Show."

Misty Cummings was baby-sitting Haleigh in her Satsuma home in February when the 5-year-old disappeared.

On the show, Cummings said she believes the maternal side of the missing girl's family may have Haleigh.

"Someone came in and got her, obviously," Cummings, 17, told CBS' Maggie Rodriguez. "I feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her. That's just how I feel."

She did not give details about which of Haleigh's family members she thinks has the now-6-year-old, but Cummings said she thinks the focus of the investigation needs to be wider.

Misty Cummings on CBS
CBS News
Misty Cummings was interviewed live Friday on the CBS program "Early Show."
"They need to move on and look for the right person, because they're focusing on me and I'm not the one who has Haleigh; I don't know where she is," Cummings said. "They need to look for the person who does have Haleigh."

Cummings also explained why she feels she failed a polygraph test.

"I didn't want to do the polygraph. I was supposed to do a hypnosis, that's what I was supposed to do. Could be the reason I'm failing is because I feel like it's my fault, because I was the last one seen with her," Cummings said.

At the time of the disappearance, Cummings' name was Misty Croslin. She has since married Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings. The pair announced their intent to divorce earlier this week.

"He (Ronald) tells me it's just too much pressure on us right now," Misty Cummings said about the divorce.

Misty Cummings said her husband does not suspect her in his daughter's disappearance.

"He hasn't really said much about it, he believes me. He doesn't think I had anything to do with Haleigh going missing," Misty Cummings said.

Misty Cummings said life has been hard since becoming a suspect in the disappearance.

"I want everything to be back to normal. I want Haleigh home," Misty Cummings said.

Anyone who has any information about what happened to Haleigh is asked to call Crimestoppers at 888-277-8477.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/21251616/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 09, 2009, 07:58:06 PM
I wonder where Misty will live while they collect their money? Surley that Donna lady and her husband will get tired of her or....maybe Misty will take Donnas place with the rich husband....Maybe Ron should try an older women for once,,,they could just trade places ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 07:59:14 PM
ORLANDO SENTINEL: Ronald Cummings Live of CBS Early Show on Monday. http://ow.ly/tFpUhalf a minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

That link did not work for me, but I happen to know that it points to http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/10/misty-cummings-tells-early-show-my-brother-would-betray-me.html

And this further shows how the two of them are getting paid more by being separated. Misty got her perks Friday and Ron will get his Monday.

So darned maddening, it is!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 09, 2009, 07:59:49 PM
Normal???  ::MonkeyConfused::
"I want everything to be back to normal. I want Haleigh home," Misty Cummings said.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 08:01:19 PM
Oh boy........here goes NG, she better be careful, I have a new avi if she starts acting like a biotch  again....lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sailcat on October 09, 2009, 08:01:24 PM
Breaking developments -- Misty Croslin tells all in an exclusive interview, saying she thinks missing little Haleigh is alive and even blaming ''the other side of the family" for her disappearance! Does Croslin clear the air on a failed polygraph and statements police have called inconsistent, or just add to the confusion? Nancy Grace investigates, 8 & 10 p.m. ET on HLN!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Thanks,Brandi.I think I am finally caught up.   ::MonkeyCheer4::

Not sure I can stomach NG tonight, myself.

But we have great monkeys who will clue those of us in who just cannot watch her. ;-)

I don't know if I can watch her either.   :pukel:
I'm with you guys. Just can't stomach her anymore. My wife used to say, "Why in the world do you watch somebody you keep yelling at and can't stand???" ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 08:07:29 PM
Breaking developments -- Misty Croslin tells all in an exclusive interview, saying she thinks missing little Haleigh is alive and even blaming ''the other side of the family" for her disappearance! Does Croslin clear the air on a failed polygraph and statements police have called inconsistent, or just add to the confusion? Nancy Grace investigates, 8 & 10 p.m. ET on HLN!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Thanks,Brandi.I think I am finally caught up.   ::MonkeyCheer4::

Not sure I can stomach NG tonight, myself.

But we have great monkeys who will clue those of us in who just cannot watch her. ;-)

I don't know if I can watch her either.   :pukel:
I'm with you guys. Just can't stomach her anymore. My wife used to say, "Why in the world do you watch somebody you keep yelling at and can't stand???" ;-)

I just told my husband (we are both here in our home office) that it's bad enough for me to watch NG .. but I cannot take my husband's reaction to her at the same time! LOL

So, I am gonna take a pass on NG tonight.

At least.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 08:09:57 PM
OK...lie number 1.......Misty told the reporter in the airport that she didnt fail the poly............then on the Earl Show she told the lady that she failed the poly possibly because she felt guilty because she was the last one to see HaLeigh.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 08:12:49 PM
Where are the two rascals now (mc rc)  did they secretly meet up in the big apple to take in a Broadway  show and a nice dinner. Do we know what the agenda for these two are for the weekend. ::MonkeyDevil2::When will we see their pics on TMZ along with Kate and Jon?
I wouldn't doubt it at all  ::MonkeyRoll::

I am still thinking it is highly probable that they "separated" in order to maximize money making potential. Misty goes her way to make as much as possible, Ronald and his mommy go another way. This way they double the money they are making off of this poor missing child.

Misty even said that they are going to "keep in touch with each other."

This is making me sicker by the day.




I wouldn't doubt it Brandi, and I'm so upset with all this horrific behavior, I keep thinking I will walk away from this case, but I can't, I want to hang on hoping there will be some resolution, whatever it may be. Poor Haeigh and Jr  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 09, 2009, 08:12:56 PM
Misty acts like someone that has a split personality....she looks and talks different...soft voice, acting like a little girl , then we see her speaking out cocky looking older....wth is going on with her?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 08:13:27 PM
Nancy Grace is all over Misty and said..." how does a fish get caught......it opens its mouth"..............now talking to Mrs. Neves..



Teresa says that she doesnt think that Misty was referring to her side of the family with the statement she made...


Nancy also said that its funny that Misty says she cant talk to LE until her lawyer gets ready for her too, but yet she went against her lawyers wishes and did the Early show...........go Nancy.doing good so far......lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 08:13:38 PM
@HaleighNewz Donna is originally from FL.& has a house/hubby in Richlands, NC& apparently a house in Orlando.Her hubby is from NM&was n Navy

http://twitter.com/mudboggingqueen


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: klaasend on October 09, 2009, 08:15:11 PM
Don't miss Dana Pretzer tonight at 9pm ET:

www.scaredmonkeysradio.com


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 08:16:21 PM
OK...lie number 1.......Misty told the reporter in the airport that she didnt fail the poly............then on the Earl Show she told the lady that she failed the poly possibly because she felt guilty because she was the last one to see HaLeigh.......

She also told that same reporter that she was NOT flying to New York.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on October 09, 2009, 08:17:57 PM
Is there any incentive for Misty to tell what she knows based upon being a juvenile when HaLeigh went missing - as opposed to turning 18 in December and continuing to lie to LE?

(Please don't throw nanners - I'm not too smart about this stuff)   ::MonkeyRoll::

Hi numbersgirl,

The best guess (for a incentive), if she doesn't tell the truth she will get a Hillbilly sandwich in jail.
If she plea bargains, maybe, she will find a way to avoid jail, if she discloses who else was involved?  IMO
Good things she likes sandwiches.



Thanks, Seahorse.  I'm going out on a limb and guessing that said Hillbilly sandwich in jail would be on day-old bread as opposed to freshly baked?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 08:18:54 PM
OK...lie number 1.......Misty told the reporter in the airport that she didnt fail the poly............then on the Earl Show she told the lady that she failed the poly possibly because she felt guilty because she was the last one to see HaLeigh.......

She also told that same reporter that she was NOT flying to New York.
She was probably told by Donna to NOT say where she was going, so she said "NO" when asked about NYC. Perhaps if she had told where exactly she flying to the press would be waiting for her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 08:20:34 PM
@HaleighNewz Donna is originally from FL.& has a house/hubby in Richlands, NC& apparently a house in Orlando.Her hubby is from NM&was n Navy

http://twitter.com/mudboggingqueen


Bradley A Brock

   1. 1204 Spanish Moss Ct
   2. Richlands, NC
   3. 45-49
   4. Household: Donna M Brock

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 08:21:24 PM
NG talking to Teresa again, she still says she thinks Misty is trying to blame the Sheffields side....and Nancy told her there was no way it was Crystal, and Teresa says she has no idea why Misty would blame the Sheffields side...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 09, 2009, 08:21:55 PM
OK...lie number 1.......Misty told the reporter in the airport that she didnt fail the poly............then on the Earl Show she told the lady that she failed the poly possibly because she felt guilty because she was the last one to see HaLeigh.......

She also told that same reporter that she was NOT flying to New York.
She was probably told by Donna to NOT say where she was going, so she said "NO" when asked about NYC. Perhaps if she had told where exactly she flying to the press would be waiting for her.

Maybe they had a lay over in Atl. so she was telling a half truth...they makes her not lying in the world of Misty. ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 08:22:08 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 08:23:06 PM
NG talking to Teresa again, she still says she thinks Misty is trying to blame the Sheffields side....and Nancy told her there was no way it was Crystal, and Teresa says she has no idea why Misty would blame the Sheffields side...
Interesting, and Teresa saying that as well.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 08:26:59 PM
OK...lie number 1.......Misty told the reporter in the airport that she didnt fail the poly............then on the Earl Show she told the lady that she failed the poly possibly because she felt guilty because she was the last one to see HaLeigh.......

She also told that same reporter that she was NOT flying to New York.
She was probably told by Donna to NOT say where she was going, so she said "NO" when asked about NYC. Perhaps if she had told where exactly she flying to the press would be waiting for her.

Maybe they had a lay over in Atl. so she was telling a half truth...they makes her not lying in the world of Misty. ::MonkeyDevil2::
Or Newark as it's a lot less crowded


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 08:27:32 PM
Talking to Lillian Glass, body language exspert, she says Misty showed complete deception during her interview this morning....licking her lips, shrudging her shoulders......she says she is lying.......

Well Im not and exspert, but I agree...lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 08:27:38 PM
OK...lie number 1.......Misty told the reporter in the airport that she didnt fail the poly............then on the Earl Show she told the lady that she failed the poly possibly because she felt guilty because she was the last one to see HaLeigh.......

She also told that same reporter that she was NOT flying to New York.
She was probably told by Donna to NOT say where she was going, so she said "NO" when asked about NYC. Perhaps if she had told where exactly she flying to the press would be waiting for her.

Probably.

I was just surprised (not sure why) yesterday how easily and matter of factly told the reporter a lie. It seemed so easy for her.

BTW .. I don't think I have welcomed you to the forum, MYView! Allow me to do that now!

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 08:34:22 PM
Oh boy........here goes NG, she better be careful, I have a new avi if she starts acting like a biotch  again....lol

I am anxious to see what your son has come up with for you!

Is it time yet?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 08:34:47 PM
Lots of clips of Misty saying she didnt fail the poly's, to prove a point about her saying on the Early Morning show that she failed because of guilt..........here comes Susan Moss..................oh they say that these statemnt by Misty can be used in court should she ever be arrested.........................Moss says, keep talking Misty we will keep listening..lol.................................................now talking about the roadrage.......and Misty calling the Lady crazy....lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 09, 2009, 08:35:01 PM
Misty acts like someone that has a split personality....she looks and talks different...soft voice, acting like a little girl , then we see her speaking out cocky looking older....wth is going on with her?

Maybe she did not have coffee yet before going on the morning show......and  had a toddy while getting her nail manicured  before leaving for NYC and was feeling sassy.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 08:35:54 PM
Oh boy........here goes NG, she better be careful, I have a new avi if she starts acting like a biotch  again....lol

I am anxious to see what your son has come up with for you!

Is it time yet?
LOL, Brandi...no not yet....Nancy is doing good right now and saying the right things....lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 08:36:03 PM
OK...lie number 1.......Misty told the reporter in the airport that she didnt fail the poly............then on the Earl Show she told the lady that she failed the poly possibly because she felt guilty because she was the last one to see HaLeigh.......

She also told that same reporter that she was NOT flying to New York.
She was probably told by Donna to NOT say where she was going, so she said "NO" when asked about NYC. Perhaps if she had told where exactly she flying to the press would be waiting for her.

Probably.

I was just surprised (not sure why) yesterday how easily and matter of factly told the reporter a lie. It seemed so easy for her.

BTW .. I don't think I have welcomed you to the forum, MYView! Allow me to do that now!

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LOL, actually you did, back in April. I don't know how to post a link to a post from here.
Quote from: MyView on April 28, 2009, 03:11:16 PM
I'm new, but have been reading here for a long time. What a mess these young one's are, sad for their children.


Hi MyView:

     

Nice to see you posting, and welcome again.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Idgie on October 09, 2009, 08:37:53 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I totally agree with you and I was very offended by TM's hillbillie post.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 09, 2009, 08:38:11 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, in defense of Tim's choice, he said he thought this Donna Brock would be someone with whom Misty could "relate." On that count, I agree. As a role model, I think she has a LOT missing!
Brandi, I do not doubt for a minute that Tim has the best intentions.He has a great heart and is desperate to find something to cause Misty to tell what she knows. I just think it was a simplistic attempt in a complex situation. Misty's main focus is what has kept her alive thus far-survival. The one time I saw the mask come off was during the LDT that Tim set up was when she said "I have had a hard life and it doesn't look like it will get any better." The person to whom Misty will relate IMO is someone who will help her survive. I don"t think she is at a level where "girly" things matter to her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 08:38:20 PM
OK...lie number 1.......Misty told the reporter in the airport that she didnt fail the poly............then on the Earl Show she told the lady that she failed the poly possibly because she felt guilty because she was the last one to see HaLeigh.......

She also told that same reporter that she was NOT flying to New York.
She was probably told by Donna to NOT say where she was going, so she said "NO" when asked about NYC. Perhaps if she had told where exactly she flying to the press would be waiting for her.

Probably.

I was just surprised (not sure why) yesterday how easily and matter of factly told the reporter a lie. It seemed so easy for her.

BTW .. I don't think I have welcomed you to the forum, MYView! Allow me to do that now!

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LOL, actually you did, back in April. I don't know how to post a link to a post from here.
Quote from: MyView on April 28, 2009, 03:11:16 PM
I'm new, but have been reading here for a long time. What a mess these young one's are, sad for their children.


Hi MyView:
Nice to see you posting, and welcome again.

heh .. a double welcome then!

I swear  ...

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 08:38:42 PM
Hmm, so Teresa just said Misty met Donna at a TES event!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 08:38:49 PM
Talking to Teresa again,,,,,,,,,,she says Misty hasnt signed the divoce papers yet........it was her understanding that Misty was suppose to sign them immediatly, she said Misty is busy doing other things, and then she says Misty is staying with someone she met while doing the tests with Tim Miller..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 08:41:22 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, in defense of Tim's choice, he said he thought this Donna Brock would be someone with whom Misty could "relate." On that count, I agree. As a role model, I think she has a LOT missing!
Brandi, I do not doubt for a minute that Tim has the best intentions.He has a great heart and is desperate to find something to cause Misty to tell what she knows. I just think it was a simplistic attempt in a complex situation. Misty's main focus is what has kept her alive thus far-survival. The one time I saw the mask come off was during the LDT that Tim set up was when she said "I have had a hard life and it doesn't look like it will get any better." The person to whom Misty will relate IMO is someone who will help her survive. I don"t think she is at a level where "girly" things matter to her.

ITA with you, Blumonkey.

I was just trying to show how I thought TM was thinking.

But, I agree with you!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 08:54:32 PM
Talking to Teresa again,,,,,,,,,,she says Misty hasnt signed the divoce papers yet........it was her understanding that Misty was suppose to sign them immediatly, she said Misty is busy doing other things, and then she says Misty is staying with someone she met while doing the tests with Tim Miller..
Oh man, I mis-heard, thanks for this. I thought it was at an event, duh me  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 09:05:31 PM
Well, NG done a good job showing what a liar Misty is,  Teresa didnt look as confident about Misty as she did before......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 09, 2009, 09:09:10 PM
I have a question.....
Tim Miller said that the witness that he spoke with at the bar...the girl on probation...said that
Misty was at the palce where she went to buy drugs the night HaLeigh disappeared and Misty
was doing the threesome.
Ron was at work, according to all reports.  How could he be a part of the threesome?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 09, 2009, 09:13:31 PM
I have a question.....
Tim Miller said that the witness that he spoke with at the bar...the girl on probation...said that
Misty was at the palce where she went to buy drugs the night HaLeigh disappeared and Misty
was doing the threesome.
Ron was at work, according to all reports.  How could he be a part of the threesome?

I don't think he has been reported as the male in this threesome of two females and a male.

Just as how I have taken what I heard.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 09:13:33 PM
Is there any incentive for Misty to tell what she knows based upon being a juvenile when HaLeigh went missing - as opposed to turning 18 in December and continuing to lie to LE?

(Please don't throw nanners - I'm not too smart about this stuff)   ::MonkeyRoll::

Hi numbersgirl,

The best guess (for a incentive), if she doesn't tell the truth she will get a Hillbilly sandwich in jail.
If she plea bargains, maybe, she will find a way to avoid jail, if she discloses who else was involved?  IMO
Good things she likes sandwiches.



Thanks, Seahorse.  I'm going out on a limb and guessing that said Hillbilly sandwich in jail would be on day-old bread as opposed to freshly baked?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yes, correct, Numbergirl, Day old bread opposed to freshly baked is right!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 09, 2009, 09:16:12 PM
I have a question.....
Tim Miller said that the witness that he spoke with at the bar...the girl on probation...said that
Misty was at the palce where she went to buy drugs the night HaLeigh disappeared and Misty
was doing the threesome.
Ron was at work, according to all reports.  How could he be a part of the threesome?

I don't think he has been reported as the male in this threesome of two females and a male.

Just as how I have taken what I heard.

Thanks, Brandi.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 09:27:14 PM
I have a question.....
Tim Miller said that the witness that he spoke with at the bar...the girl on probation...said that
Misty was at the palce where she went to buy drugs the night HaLeigh disappeared and Misty
was doing the threesome.
Ron was at work, according to all reports.  How could he be a part of the threesome?

I don't think he has been reported as the male in this threesome of two females and a male.

Just as how I have taken what I heard.

Thanks, Brandi.

 TN knew about the Me'nage a' Trolis, how?  I find that curious. That isn't something you discuss around the dinner table.
 I wish NG would bring that subject up to Ms. Neves. "Ms. N. are you aware of M...threesome"?  No Mizz Nancy, gulp.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 09:29:38 PM
well, I guess seeing the rest of Misty's interview on Monday will be interesting, and then to see Ronald come on and try to play clean up on whatever she says will be something to see.......maybe they will trip each other up and someone will say something to lead LE to HaLeigh.......................Wonder why Lisa hasnt been brought back to Florida already? ........I guess Ronald and Teresa gets to stay in NewYork all weekend and wait for there Monday morning taping........poor HaLeigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 09, 2009, 09:41:29 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I totally agree with you and I was very offended by TM's hillbillie post.
I was surprised by that as well. I am amazed that this derogatory term is used by those who would never publicly refer to African Americans by using the "N" word. I prefer to see the individual and not the stereotype. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sailcat on October 09, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 09, 2009, 09:45:18 PM
well, I guess seeing the rest of Misty's interview on Monday will be interesting, and then to see Ronald come on and try to play clean up on whatever she says will be something to see.......maybe they will trip each other up and someone will say something to lead LE to HaLeigh.......................Wonder why Lisa hasnt been brought back to Florida already? ........I guess Ronald and Teresa gets to stay in NewYork all weekend and wait for there Monday morning taping........poor HaLeigh.
Maybe they will catch the Broadway Show...."MAMA MIA"


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 09, 2009, 09:46:24 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


minagetwa.....hahaha is the closest english spelling i can do...dnt speak french sorry!! 

Thank-you, ScareyCarrie,

The word is good, Minagetwa.....French/Monkey Language? 

Things are becoming clearer to me, why Timmy called Ron a Fagtwa...


I hope you know what I mean, I don't have the police report, RC filed PR on Timmy (who left a message on R's phone calling him...
a here we go, a Fagtwa)...It must be the Minagetwa's the threesome meetings, RC may have engaged in Bisexualwa.
Good Grief, I hope I am discreet without being  annoying, enough of my twa. Thank-you again for the French/Monkey word:)
Now that is interesting, and could very well be  ::MonkeyConfused::

Hi No Rose Colored Glasses,

The 20,000 question is are there any photos of the Me'nage a' Trolis?  TM said MC is afraid of two things, I would guess
a third thing...PHOTOS!  These guys all have cell phones with take photos, just curious if Misty is in fear of photos surfacing?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 09:50:46 PM
I would like to know also how Teresa knew about the threesome. It isn't something one would sit down and tell your mother at the dinner table  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 09:56:51 PM
If Misty is afraid of the thugs and druggies if she talks, did she ever give it any thought that one of them could kill her before she talks? And not only that, now that the info is out about Donna and Misty, aren't both of their lives in danger if indeed the thugs and druggies have anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, I know I would be.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 09:59:10 PM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I totally agree with you and I was very offended by TM's hillbillie post.
I was surprised by that as well. I am amazed that this derogatory term is used by those who would never publicly refer to African Americans by using the "N" word. I prefer to see the individual and not the stereotype. JMO

Well for a while there I thought it was Cobra reporting, was surprised at most of what Tim stated regarding his conversation with a druggie who was afraid to inform LE. I guess she has no use for the reward money.

Other than making Misty crack, I see no need for some of that info being put out for public consumption and probably would not have until Donna Brock screwed up.

And lets not forget the screw up with Steph Watts earlier this week or last week regarding Misty's confession. TM also refers to that when he is talking about taking Misty to church.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 10:01:23 PM
If Misty is afraid of the thugs and druggies if she talks, did she ever give it any thought that one of them could kill her before she talks? And not only that, now that the info is out about Donna and Misty, aren't both of their lives in danger if indeed the thugs and druggies have anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, I know I would be.

Loose lips sink ships,  so they say.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sailcat on October 09, 2009, 10:01:35 PM
I would like to know also how Teresa knew about the threesome. It isn't something one would sit down and tell your mother at the dinner table  ::MonkeyEek::
Again, it's a cultural thing, in my opinion. While folks like you and me would never engage in such behavior - let alone share stories about it with our parents - some people don't have the same standards. You can't imagine what some kids live with, observe, and participate in.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 10:04:36 PM
I would like to know also how Teresa knew about the threesome. It isn't something one would sit down and tell your mother at the dinner table  ::MonkeyEek::
Again, it's a cultural thing, in my opinion. While folks like you and me would never engage in such behavior - let alone share stories about it with our parents - some people don't have the same standards. You can't imagine what some kids live with, observe, and participate in.
Wow, I just can't imagine talking about things like that with parents, how uncomfortable.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 09, 2009, 10:05:18 PM
I may be out in left field with my thinking, but the more I watch Misty the more I think her involvement is worse than I originally thought. I gave both RC and MC the benefit of some kind of illegal drug accident with Haleigh and a devised cover up. However, with time passing and also observing Misty I no longer can accept the accident theory.  People just don’t keep up the charade this long to cover up an accident. Misty’s demeanor is all wrong….she is almost emotionless except for hints of defiance and anger. Not to mention that she hasn’t a worry in the world as far as being arrested for whatever happened to Haleigh. She’s mad because people aren’t accepting her lies and conflicting statements without questioning them. That’s just plain arrogant. And now she has the nerve to point the finger of guilt at any and all she chooses. At the very least, she should be falling apart right in front of our eyes because Haleigh disappeared on her watch, she’s getting divorced(maybe for real and maybe not), she has no means of support, her family is not speaking to her and her pseudo mom is working for TM trying to get her to talk.  I don’t know what happened and maybe never will, but I do know that Misty for all her baby looks and talk is one tough cookie……. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 10:15:30 PM
I may be out in left field with my thinking, but the more I watch Misty the more I think her involvement is worse than I originally thought. I gave both RC and MC the benefit of some kind of illegal drug accident with Haleigh and a devised cover up. However, with time passing and also observing Misty I no longer can accept the accident theory.  People just don’t keep up the charade this long to cover up an accident. Misty’s demeanor is all wrong….she is almost emotionless except for hints of defiance and anger. Not to mention that she hasn’t a worry in the world as far as being arrested for whatever happened to Haleigh. She’s mad because people aren’t accepting her lies and conflicting statements without questioning them. That’s just plain arrogant. And now she has the nerve to point the finger of guilt at any and all she chooses. At the very least, she should be falling apart right in front of our eyes because Haleigh disappeared on her watch, she’s getting divorced(maybe for real and maybe not), she has no means of support, her family is not speaking to her and her pseudo mom is working for TM trying to get her to talk.  I don’t know what happened and maybe never will, but I do know that Misty for all her baby looks and talk is one tough cookie……. 
Misty sure is one tough cookie, I don't see her talking anymore than Casey Anthony talking. Now that it is all out in the open I wonder if Donna is going to throw Misty out? Then what, maybe Teresa will take her in  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 09, 2009, 10:19:35 PM
Wow, I had to step out when all this was starting and I'm just now watching NG.  I want to know if TN and RC were in on this?  What were they told?  Is this the reason RC is asking for a divorce?  because misty went without his blessing?

Now I'm thinking Courtney is part of the setup?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 09, 2009, 10:20:20 PM
TN is a big fat liar.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 09, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
TN is a big fat liar.
She sure is, she makes me ill  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 09, 2009, 10:23:03 PM
I may be out in left field with my thinking, but the more I watch Misty the more I think her involvement is worse than I originally thought. I gave both RC and MC the benefit of some kind of illegal drug accident with Haleigh and a devised cover up. However, with time passing and also observing Misty I no longer can accept the accident theory.  People just don’t keep up the charade this long to cover up an accident. Misty’s demeanor is all wrong….she is almost emotionless except for hints of defiance and anger. Not to mention that she hasn’t a worry in the world as far as being arrested for whatever happened to Haleigh. She’s mad because people aren’t accepting her lies and conflicting statements without questioning them. That’s just plain arrogant. And now she has the nerve to point the finger of guilt at any and all she chooses. At the very least, she should be falling apart right in front of our eyes because Haleigh disappeared on her watch, she’s getting divorced(maybe for real and maybe not), she has no means of support, her family is not speaking to her and her pseudo mom is working for TM trying to get her to talk.  I don’t know what happened and maybe never will, but I do know that Misty for all her baby looks and talk is one tough cookie……. 
Misty sure is one tough cookie, I don't see her talking anymore than Casey Anthony talking. Now that it is all out in the open I wonder if Donna is going to throw Misty out? Then what, maybe Teresa will take her in  ::MonkeyEek::



For some reason, I think she will stay with Donna for the time being.....Donna will tell her all that they're doing is for her own good, and she will let them think she believes them and continue to use whoever will let her leech off them, she knows how to survive.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 09, 2009, 10:23:07 PM
okay, I have a feeling ron has told misty he will kill her and himself if she tells what happened.  remember when she said she would be scared to death if someone put a gun in her mouth? yeah.  bet that happened already. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 09, 2009, 10:24:27 PM
I want to know if TN was in on the game they played with misty. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 09, 2009, 10:27:59 PM
Wow, I had to step out when all this was starting and I'm just now watching NG.  I want to know if TN and RC were in on this?  What were they told?  Is this the reason RC is asking for a divorce?  because misty went without his blessing?

Now I'm thinking Courtney is part of the setup?


I believe the whole thing is a set up as well, possibly including the divorce. There's some real behind the scene maneuvering going on. We'll just have to wait for the next act and see if we can figure it all out.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 10:34:10 PM
I would like to know also how Teresa knew about the threesome. It isn't something one would sit down and tell your mother at the dinner table  ::MonkeyEek::
Again, it's a cultural thing, in my opinion. While folks like you and me would never engage in such behavior - let alone share stories about it with our parents - some people don't have the same standards. You can't imagine what some kids live with, observe, and participate in.
Wow, I just can't imagine talking about things like that with parents, how uncomfortable.

Where does it say that TN knew about the threesome?

The following is what I read, that TM told TN about the threesome.

Tim told TN about it and the threesome. This is the kind of life they are living and having this 5-year-old child in, dragging this 5-year-old child around or leaving alone. All the thugs and drug addicts they hang out with. With what poor little Junior has to live with too. Disgrace to American society that two people can do this to two small children that will never have a chance in this world. All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6215.msg977201#msg977201


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sailcat on October 09, 2009, 10:35:24 PM
I may be out in left field with my thinking, but the more I watch Misty the more I think her involvement is worse than I originally thought. I gave both RC and MC the benefit of some kind of illegal drug accident with Haleigh and a devised cover up. However, with time passing and also observing Misty I no longer can accept the accident theory.  People just don’t keep up the charade this long to cover up an accident. Misty’s demeanor is all wrong….she is almost emotionless except for hints of defiance and anger. Not to mention that she hasn’t a worry in the world as far as being arrested for whatever happened to Haleigh. She’s mad because people aren’t accepting her lies and conflicting statements without questioning them. That’s just plain arrogant. And now she has the nerve to point the finger of guilt at any and all she chooses. At the very least, she should be falling apart right in front of our eyes because Haleigh disappeared on her watch, she’s getting divorced(maybe for real and maybe not), she has no means of support, her family is not speaking to her and her pseudo mom is working for TM trying to get her to talk.  I don’t know what happened and maybe never will, but I do know that Misty for all her baby looks and talk is one tough cookie……. 
I think you may very well be right on all of your points. I know for sure that your last sentence is right on target! -Sailcat


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
I may be out in left field with my thinking, but the more I watch Misty the more I think her involvement is worse than I originally thought. I gave both RC and MC the benefit of some kind of illegal drug accident with Haleigh and a devised cover up. However, with time passing and also observing Misty I no longer can accept the accident theory.  People just don’t keep up the charade this long to cover up an accident. Misty’s demeanor is all wrong….she is almost emotionless except for hints of defiance and anger. Not to mention that she hasn’t a worry in the world as far as being arrested for whatever happened to Haleigh. She’s mad because people aren’t accepting her lies and conflicting statements without questioning them. That’s just plain arrogant. And now she has the nerve to point the finger of guilt at any and all she chooses. At the very least, she should be falling apart right in front of our eyes because Haleigh disappeared on her watch, she’s getting divorced(maybe for real and maybe not), she has no means of support, her family is not speaking to her and her pseudo mom is working for TM trying to get her to talk.  I don’t know what happened and maybe never will, but I do know that Misty for all her baby looks and talk is one tough cookie……. 
Misty sure is one tough cookie, I don't see her talking anymore than Casey Anthony talking. Now that it is all out in the open I wonder if Donna is going to throw Misty out? Then what, maybe Teresa will take her in  ::MonkeyEek::



For some reason, I think she will stay with Donna for the time being.....Donna will tell her all that they're doing is for her own good, and she will let them think she believes them and continue to use whoever will let her leech off them, she knows how to survive.......
If she does remain with Donna after TM has let this info out, Donna better not go to sleep. 

Right about now, I would think that Misty is desperate, she has messed up with her own family members, now with Ronald and his family as far as I can see.  Misty is out there alone.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 09, 2009, 10:40:37 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Does anyone know the French word for "the threesome"?  The word in french sounds more sauvy and discreet.  TIA.


ménage à trois



Well if ya wana get all fancy and technical.....

Mine was the sinsuma version... ::MonkeyDevil2::

every now an then you need a good laugh
thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 10:44:01 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat
Umm, I have to disagree with you on the bolder portion above.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat
Umm, I have to disagree with you on the bolder portion above.
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 10:47:29 PM
Come to think of it, since Teresa said tonight on NG that Misty ws staying with someone that she met during the Tim Miller tests, then Misty already knows that this woman is connected to Tim in some way and already had and idea what was going on, so I dont think its gonna bother her too much, she is gonna hang right there with Donna and continue to free load and throw a little tidbit out there every now and then just to keep in her good graces....she has no where else to go!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 09, 2009, 10:48:01 PM
Wow, I had to step out when all this was starting and I'm just now watching NG.  I want to know if TN and RC were in on this?  What were they told?  Is this the reason RC is asking for a divorce?  because misty went without his blessing?

Now I'm thinking Courtney is part of the setup?


I believe the whole thing is a set up as well, possibly including the divorce. There's some real behind the scene maneuvering going on. We'll just have to wait for the next act and see if we can figure it all out.
thanks N2W, I guess we have no choice but to wait.  I'm thinking that DB may be in trouble with ron too if he feels played.  She can probably handle him, since she scares me. LOL  I want to think she put on some of that badazz stuff to "impress" misty but I'm not sure she's not really like that.  I am all about Tim being honest but what now?  Now that he spilled everything, I wonder what will happen.  I hope Tn is po'd she got played because she's been playing everyone else.

TN sure was somber tonight!  LOL
Not as many "Mz Nancy's" and she was very uptight.  Nice to see  her squirm.
I missed the part where NG defended Crystal.  I guess someone here was talking too loud during most all of that segment that part.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 09, 2009, 10:49:56 PM
Good night all, been an interesting day, kinda  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hopefully all this mess that has nothing to do with finding Haleigh will die down and more attention will be placed back on the case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 09, 2009, 10:50:50 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat
Umm, I have to disagree with you on the bolder portion above.
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my view
from the few experiences, ive had with addicts i agree


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 09, 2009, 10:54:25 PM
well, I guess seeing the rest of Misty's interview on Monday will be interesting, and then to see Ronald come on and try to play clean up on whatever she says will be something to see.......maybe they will trip each other up and someone will say something to lead LE to HaLeigh.......................Wonder why Lisa hasnt been brought back to Florida already? ........I guess Ronald and Teresa gets to stay in NewYork all weekend and wait for there Monday morning taping........poor HaLeigh.

I was reading the court doc on the Nashville criminal records site and I was under the impression that Lisa has to go before the Judge on October 14th to make it offical to transport her back to Florida. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sailcat on October 09, 2009, 10:56:43 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat
Umm, I have to disagree with you on the bolder portion above.
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OK, I could probably have worded that a little differently. Perhaps I should say that most alcoholics and addicts I know have enough sense to make sure that their children don't "get stole."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 09, 2009, 10:57:22 PM
Come to think of it, since Teresa said tonight on NG that Misty ws staying with someone that she met during the Tim Miller tests, then Misty already knows that this woman is connected to Tim in some way and already had and idea what was going on, so I dont think its gonna bother her too much, she is gonna hang right there with Donna and continue to free load and throw a little tidbit out there every now and then just to keep in her good graces....she has no where else to go!!
I don't believe that TM and Donna enlightened Misty of their bottom line. TM said they were trying to get her to talk, to tell what happened the night HaLeigh went missing. To even confess to a priest/minister.

If Misty was well aware of their motives, then whos playing who?

Donna better watch Misty 24/7, if not for her well being, her belongings.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 09, 2009, 10:58:49 PM
i just remembered something, in 86 this woman sold her child for drugs
but the people that bought the boy, went straight to the police, so it worked out
the boy went to foster care, mother to jail
first time ive ever thought about scenario
now i cant get it out of my head


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 10:59:01 PM
well, I guess seeing the rest of Misty's interview on Monday will be interesting, and then to see Ronald come on and try to play clean up on whatever she says will be something to see.......maybe they will trip each other up and someone will say something to lead LE to HaLeigh.......................Wonder why Lisa hasnt been brought back to Florida already? ........I guess Ronald and Teresa gets to stay in NewYork all weekend and wait for there Monday morning taping........poor HaLeigh.

I was reading the court doc on the Nashville criminal records site and I was under the impression that Lisa has to go before the Judge on October 14th to make it offical to transport her back to Florida. ::MonkeyTongue::
Thanks for that info.......now we know!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 11:02:44 PM
Come to think of it, since Teresa said tonight on NG that Misty ws staying with someone that she met during the Tim Miller tests, then Misty already knows that this woman is connected to Tim in some way and already had and idea what was going on, so I dont think its gonna bother her too much, she is gonna hang right there with Donna and continue to free load and throw a little tidbit out there every now and then just to keep in her good graces....she has no where else to go!!
I don't believe that TM and Donna enlightened Misty of their bottom line. TM said they were trying to get her to talk, to tell what happened the night HaLeigh went missing. To even confess to a priest/minister.

If Misty was well aware of their motives, then whos playing who?

Donna better watch Misty 24/7, if not for her well being, her belongings.

well they may not have told her the bottom line, but Im sure she has a idea, and I agree, Donna better be careful, I wouldnt put anything past Misty......not one thing..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 09, 2009, 11:07:23 PM
Defendant Details       

 
Defendant Case Number Defendant Status Case Status
Crosling, Lisa Carmen GS460391 PENDING OPEN
 
 
 
 
 Appearance Details       

 
Date Judge Court Room Attorney Reason
Date and Time 10/14/2009 - 09:00 A.M. Judge Holt, Aaron Court Room Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B Johnson, Attorney Johnson, Martesha L  Reason Review
 
 
 Charge Details       

 
Charged/Cited Offense(s) Convicted Disposition Bond Date
Fugitive     $0   

http://ccc.nashville.gov/portal/page/portal/ccc/caseSearch/caseSearchPublic/caseSearchPublicResults/?a1=1004965|2564069|CJIS
 

         
 
 
 
 
 Charging Instrument       
 
 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 09, 2009, 11:08:57 PM
Wow, I had to step out when all this was starting and I'm just now watching NG.  I want to know if TN and RC were in on this?  What were they told?  Is this the reason RC is asking for a divorce?  because misty went without his blessing?

Now I'm thinking Courtney is part of the setup?


I believe the whole thing is a set up as well, possibly including the divorce. There's some real behind the scene maneuvering going on. We'll just have to wait for the next act and see if we can figure it all out.
thanks N2W, I guess we have no choice but to wait.  I'm thinking that DB may be in trouble with ron too if he feels played.  She can probably handle him, since she scares me. LOL  I want to think she put on some of that badazz stuff to "impress" misty but I'm not sure she's not really like that.  I am all about Tim being honest but what now?  Now that he spilled everything, I wonder what will happen.  I hope Tn is po'd she got played because she's been playing everyone else.

TN sure was somber tonight!  LOL
Not as many "Mz Nancy's" and she was very uptight.  Nice to see  her squirm.
I missed the part where NG defended Crystal.  I guess someone here was talking too loud during most all of that segment that part.


I haven't got it figured out yet, but the way this has been playing out makes me wonder.......It almost appears that there is a concentrated effort from LE, TM, and Misty and Ron to drum up alot of media coverage. This case was almost off the radar until just a few weeks ago and now look how things are happening from all directions. TM kicked it off with the lie detector test.......My knowledge of TM is recent as I just learned who he was from the Anthony case. But what I saw there reaffirms my belief that he does things on the sly for LE. He can get away with doing stuff that LE would have a hard time with. I've mentioned this several times on the Caylee thread and even on here before and got no response from anyone. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 09, 2009, 11:13:36 PM
Come to think of it, since Teresa said tonight on NG that Misty ws staying with someone that she met during the Tim Miller tests, then Misty already knows that this woman is connected to Tim in some way and already had and idea what was going on, so I dont think its gonna bother her too much, she is gonna hang right there with Donna and continue to free load and throw a little tidbit out there every now and then just to keep in her good graces....she has no where else to go!!
I don't believe that TM and Donna enlightened Misty of their bottom line. TM said they were trying to get her to talk, to tell what happened the night HaLeigh went missing. To even confess to a priest/minister.





If Misty was well aware of their motives, then whos playing who?

Donna better watch Misty 24/7, if not for her well being, her belongings.



Misty knows how to get by in this life, she will play anyone she can........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 09, 2009, 11:17:10 PM
TM is a good man who is not perfect, but has a heart of gold, IMO.  I read where ron's attorney took misty's words about "the other side of the family has her" to mean his family.  LMBO
I thought she meant Crystal, since it made more sense to me that way, but I see where others also thought she meant ron's family.  The fact that ron's attorney came out swinging in response to that statement by saying misty was trying to deflect attention away from herself was almost as surprising as NG taking up for Crystal.  Ok, not even close, but it was shocking to me.  I think it shows that they may be afraid of what misty will say when she does start talking. 

TN wasn't happy so I want to know when she found out misty's new friend was actually playing her.  Why did TN say her boyfriend paid for the trip when he didn't (unless she thinks TM is her boyfriend) LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 09, 2009, 11:23:44 PM
TM is a good man who is not perfect, but has a heart of gold, IMO.  I read where ron's attorney took misty's words about "the other side of the family has her" to mean his family.  LMBO
I thought she meant Crystal, since it made more sense to me that way, but I see where others also thought she meant ron's family.  The fact that ron's attorney came out swinging in response to that statement by saying misty was trying to deflect attention away from herself was almost as surprising as NG taking up for Crystal.  Ok, not even close, but it was shocking to me.  I think it shows that they may be afraid of what misty will say when she does start talking. 

TN wasn't happy so I want to know when she found out misty's new friend was actually playing her.  Why did TN say her boyfriend paid for the trip when he didn't (unless she thinks TM is her boyfriend) LOL
LOL...I dont get that either, unless maybe they just didnt wanna say that Misty was hanging out with a member of Tims, but your right none of this makes alot of sense and somethings are still way out there....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 09, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
Quote
Quote from: Heart on Today at 09:57:22 PM
Quote from: higherhopes on Today at 09:47:29 PM
Come to think of it, since Teresa said tonight on NG that Misty ws staying with someone that she met during the Tim Miller tests, then Misty already knows that this woman is connected to Tim in some way and already had and idea what was going on, so I dont think its gonna bother her too much, she is gonna hang right there with Donna and continue to free load and throw a little tidbit out there every now and then just to keep in her good graces....she has no where else to go!!

I don't believe that TM and Donna enlightened Misty of their bottom line. TM said they were trying to get her to talk, to tell what happened the night HaLeigh went missing. To even confess to a priest/minister.

If Misty was well aware of their motives, then whos playing who?

Donna better watch Misty 24/7, if not for her well being, her belongings.
maybe she is taking rc example or advise
keep your enemies close


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 09, 2009, 11:30:03 PM
TM is a good man who is not perfect, but has a heart of gold, IMO.  I read where ron's attorney took misty's words about "the other side of the family has her" to mean his family.  LMBO
I thought she meant Crystal, since it made more sense to me that way, but I see where others also thought she meant ron's family.  The fact that ron's attorney came out swinging in response to that statement by saying misty was trying to deflect attention away from herself was almost as surprising as NG taking up for Crystal.  Ok, not even close, but it was shocking to me.  I think it shows that they may be afraid of what misty will say when she does start talking. 

TN wasn't happy so I want to know when she found out misty's new friend was actually playing her.  Why did TN say her boyfriend paid for the trip when he didn't (unless she thinks TM is her boyfriend) LOL
LOL...I dont get that either, unless maybe they just didnt wanna say that Misty was hanging out with a member of Tims, but your right none of this makes alot of sense and somethings are still way out there....

Maybe it was a coordinated effort between LE, Tim M, Teresa/Ron to get Misty to crack .... separate Misty & Ron, bring Tim's person to the rescue, then let it be known that Misty was being played by Tim, who she's already mad at, and will be even madder at when she sees his latest interview.  Maybe that's why TN said it was being paid for by her boyfriend, maybe there was a plan all along. 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 11:50:38 PM
 ::MonkeyTongue:: OK~just got back and had enough drinks for everyone ::MonkeyWink::  What did I miss ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 11:52:53 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: HaleighNewz Misty will appear on the CBS Early Show on Monday in a taped interview. Ronald will appear on the same show, but will be live in the studio


I KNEW it, I stated last night he was going for more than one show...............wow, I am disgusted at the farce they are perpetrating, but more $$ I'd guess ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 09, 2009, 11:54:13 PM
::MonkeyTongue:: OK~just got back and had enough drinks for everyone ::MonkeyWink::  What did I miss ::MonkeyBike::
Glad you're back, but you didn't have enough drinks for me.  I don't even have a buzz!  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 09, 2009, 11:58:38 PM
::MonkeyTongue:: OK~just got back and had enough drinks for everyone ::MonkeyWink::  What did I miss ::MonkeyBike::
Glad you're back, but you didn't have enough drinks for me.  I don't even have a buzz!  ::MonkeyJnBox::
d@mn, well mine is good enough for both of us= i promise.......Was Mz Nancy on with anyone tonight???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 10, 2009, 12:01:10 AM
::MonkeyTongue:: OK~just got back and had enough drinks for everyone ::MonkeyWink::  What did I miss ::MonkeyBike::

Hey IM -- I misplaced your email addy.  Can you mail me pls? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 10, 2009, 12:04:48 AM
::MonkeyTongue:: OK~just got back and had enough drinks for everyone ::MonkeyWink::  What did I miss ::MonkeyBike::

Hey IM -- I misplaced your email addy.  Can you mail me pls? 

I have lost all my yahoo contacts after the mess that happened, but mine is pcolabeachmom@yahoo.com      I ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 10, 2009, 12:09:08 AM
::MonkeyTongue:: OK~just got back and had enough drinks for everyone ::MonkeyWink::  What did I miss ::MonkeyBike::
Glad you're back, but you didn't have enough drinks for me.  I don't even have a buzz!  ::MonkeyJnBox::
d@mn, well mine is good enough for both of us= i promise.......Was Mz Nancy on with anyone tonight???

I had to watch the rerun and my kids managed to talk through most of the parts about Haleigh.  I did read here what others said, but I'll try my best.
1.  TN was on and she said she thought Misty was referring to Crystal's family, not the Cummings when she said she thought they had her somewhere
2.  Nancy told TN there was NO Way Crystal had anything to do with it (my paraphrase) and a collective OMFG was screamed at the television in monkey homes worldwide
3.  TN said Misty is with a friend she met through TES, I asked if TN was in on the set up but nobody is sure

I'll see if I can remember anything else


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 10, 2009, 12:14:03 AM
::MonkeyTongue:: OK~just got back and had enough drinks for everyone ::MonkeyWink::  What did I miss ::MonkeyBike::
Glad you're back, but you didn't have enough drinks for me.  I don't even have a buzz!  ::MonkeyJnBox::
d@mn, well mine is good enough for both of us= i promise.......Was Mz Nancy on with anyone tonight???

I had to watch the rerun and my kids managed to talk through most of the parts about Haleigh.  I did read here what others said, but I'll try my best.
1.  TN was on and she said she thought Misty was referring to Crystal's family, not the Cummings when she said she thought they had her somewhere
2.  Nancy told TN there was NO Way Crystal had anything to do with it (my paraphrase) and a collective OMFG was screamed at the television in monkey homes worldwide
3.  TN said Misty is with a friend she met through TES, I asked if TN was in on the set up but nobody is sure

I'll see if I can remember anything else

Hmmmmm...not sure I cans stay up and watch that HB (LOL) chat with Mz Nancy. Maybe I should have stayed and had more drinks ::MonkeyTongue::

eveery day it is more shocking than I could possibly imagine, and HaLeigh is still gone ::MonkeyNoNo:: I swear I really despise this side of the family.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 10, 2009, 12:15:32 AM
::MonkeyTongue:: OK~just got back and had enough drinks for everyone ::MonkeyWink::  What did I miss ::MonkeyBike::
Glad you're back, but you didn't have enough drinks for me.  I don't even have a buzz!  ::MonkeyJnBox::
d@mn, well mine is good enough for both of us= i promise.......Was Mz Nancy on with anyone tonight???

I had to watch the rerun and my kids managed to talk through most of the parts about Haleigh.  I did read here what others said, but I'll try my best.
1.  TN was on and she said she thought Misty was referring to Crystal's family, not the Cummings when she said she thought they had her somewhere
2.  Nancy told TN there was NO Way Crystal had anything to do with it (my paraphrase) and a collective OMFG was screamed at the television in monkey homes worldwide3.  TN said Misty is with a friend she met through TES, I asked if TN was in on the set up but nobody is sure

I'll see if I can remember anything else

I heard that scream too.    ::MonkeyDevil::

I would bet-ya a buck fifty all this recent stuff was planned and TN & Ron were in on it.






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 10, 2009, 12:18:55 AM
::MonkeyTongue:: OK~just got back and had enough drinks for everyone ::MonkeyWink::  What did I miss ::MonkeyBike::
Glad you're back, but you didn't have enough drinks for me.  I don't even have a buzz!  ::MonkeyJnBox::
d@mn, well mine is good enough for both of us= i promise.......Was Mz Nancy on with anyone tonight???

I had to watch the rerun and my kids managed to talk through most of the parts about Haleigh.  I did read here what others said, but I'll try my best.
1.  TN was on and she said she thought Misty was referring to Crystal's family, not the Cummings when she said she thought they had her somewhere
2.  Nancy told TN there was NO Way Crystal had anything to do with it (my paraphrase) and a collective OMFG was screamed at the television in monkey homes worldwide3.  TN said Misty is with a friend she met through TES, I asked if TN was in on the set up but nobody is sure

I'll see if I can remember anything else

I heard that scream too.    ::MonkeyDevil::

I would bet-ya a buck fifty all this recent stuff was planned and TN & Ron were in on it.






 ::MonkeyDevil2:: Could be, it has all seemed so staged IMO ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 10, 2009, 12:20:44 AM
If you can stay awake, it might be worth watching, or see if you can find it on Utube
TN was pretty somber and looked like she was really po'd



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 10, 2009, 12:23:20 AM
IM, NG also gave examples of some of Misty's lies, she came down really hard on her, she showed the footage of Misty talking to the guy at the airport and saying that she didnt fail those poly's because that weekend was a lie, then she turned around and showed the clip from the Early Show where Misty said on there that she did fail the poly's and it was because she felt guilty from being the last one to see HaLeigh.....I was glad when she took up for Crystal.......thats why my avi still has NG as a hero for the time being..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 10, 2009, 12:25:13 AM
I kinda thought TN was in on it, but the way she acted tonight gave me pause.  She appeared to be nervous and angry so I'm not sure.  I think the most shocking thing was when nancy took up for Crystal and her family.  I seriously could not believe it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 10, 2009, 12:26:23 AM
HH,
you and your avi are totally cracking me up.  I so want to know if NG has seen it. LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 10, 2009, 12:28:41 AM
HH,
you and your avi are totally cracking me up.  I so want to know if NG has seen it. LOL
Thank You, I am collecting NG avi's so I can have one for each time she says the right thing or when she is a biotch....lol......if she hasnt seen it yet, Im sure she will one day.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 10, 2009, 12:29:04 AM
IM, NG also gave examples of some of Misty's lies, she came down really hard on her, she showed the footage of Misty talking to the guy at the airport and saying that she didnt fail those poly's because that weekend was a lie, then she turned around and showed the clip from the Early Show where Misty said on there that she did fail the poly's and it was because she felt guilty from being the last one to see HaLeigh.....I was glad when she took up for Crystal.......thats why my avi still has NG as a hero for the time being..

oh and TN said Misty hasn't signed the divorce papers yet, and she seemed a bit p.o.'d that she hadn't.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 10, 2009, 12:30:44 AM
IM, NG also gave examples of some of Misty's lies, she came down really hard on her, she showed the footage of Misty talking to the guy at the airport and saying that she didnt fail those poly's because that weekend was a lie, then she turned around and showed the clip from the Early Show where Misty said on there that she did fail the poly's and it was because she felt guilty from being the last one to see HaLeigh.....I was glad when she took up for Crystal.......thats why my avi still has NG as a hero for the time being..

oh and TN said Misty hasn't signed the divorce papers yet, and she seemed a bit p.o.'d that she hadn't.
Thank you Budsgirl, I forgot about that....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 10, 2009, 12:32:14 AM
 ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks for the updates everyone, BG~I gave my email addy uthread, and now I think I will enjiy my well deserved buzz and go to bed while trying to find a youtube of tonight's broadcast. Night all ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 10, 2009, 12:34:32 AM
::MonkeyEek:: Thanks for the updates everyone, BG~I gave my email addy uthread, and now I think I will enjiy my well deserved buzz and go to bed while trying to find a youtube of tonight's broadcast. Night all ::MonkeyKiss::

Night ~ Sweet Dreams.  No doubt you'll  sleep sound.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

You have nanners but can wait till tomorrow. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: klaasend on October 10, 2009, 12:36:59 AM
IM, NG also gave examples of some of Misty's lies, she came down really hard on her, she showed the footage of Misty talking to the guy at the airport and saying that she didnt fail those poly's because that weekend was a lie, then she turned around and showed the clip from the Early Show where Misty said on there that she did fail the poly's and it was because she felt guilty from being the last one to see HaLeigh.....I was glad when she took up for Crystal.......thats why my avi still has NG as a hero for the time being..

oh and TN said Misty hasn't signed the divorce papers yet, and she seemed a bit p.o.'d that she hadn't.

I've been really busy but I did catch that part of the interview and was rather surprised.  Seems to me it was just a couple of days ago that Ronald filed for divorce.  I don't even think Misty has been in the same town since he did.  So he would have to track her down to get the papers to her and I'm assuming they would need to be notarized. 

I just don't understand why all the "surprise" over the divorce papers not being signed yet.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 10, 2009, 12:44:33 AM
goodnight IM!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 10, 2009, 12:53:32 AM
IM, NG also gave examples of some of Misty's lies, she came down really hard on her, she showed the footage of Misty talking to the guy at the airport and saying that she didnt fail those poly's because that weekend was a lie, then she turned around and showed the clip from the Early Show where Misty said on there that she did fail the poly's and it was because she felt guilty from being the last one to see HaLeigh.....I was glad when she took up for Crystal.......thats why my avi still has NG as a hero for the time being..

oh and TN said Misty hasn't signed the divorce papers yet, and she seemed a bit p.o.'d that she hadn't.

I've been really busy but I did catch that part of the interview and was rather surprised.  Seems to me it was just a couple of days ago that Ronald filed for divorce.  I don't even think Misty has been in the same town since he did.  So he would have to track her down to get the papers to her and I'm assuming they would need to be notarized. 

I just don't understand why all the "surprise" over the divorce papers not being signed yet.

Me neither but it sure looked like they expected her to either go back to the lawyers office & sign them as soon as they told her they were ready - only takes about 15 minutes to type up a simple divorce paper - or else they fed ex'd them to her & she hadn't returned them.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 10, 2009, 01:11:57 AM
::MonkeyEek:: Thanks for the updates everyone, BG~I gave my email addy uthread, and now I think I will enjiy my well deserved buzz and go to bed while trying to find a youtube of tonight's broadcast. Night all ::MonkeyKiss::

LOL  I have to add what I thought.....Same ole Chit just a different day.   Hope you had a good time tonite, we missed you. ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 10, 2009, 01:20:57 AM
Come to think of it, since Teresa said tonight on NG that Misty ws staying with someone that she met during the Tim Miller tests, then Misty already knows that this woman is connected to Tim in some way and already had and idea what was going on, so I dont think its gonna bother her too much, she is gonna hang right there with Donna and continue to free load and throw a little tidbit out there every now and then just to keep in her good graces....she has no where else to go!!
I don't believe that TM and Donna enlightened Misty of their bottom line. TM said they were trying to get her to talk, to tell what happened the night HaLeigh went missing. To even confess to a priest/minister.





If Misty was well aware of their motives, then whos playing who?

Donna better watch Misty 24/7, if not for her well being, her belongings.



Misty knows how to get by in this life, she will play anyone she can........


BINGO....all the years she was getting a education in school she was getting her education in "street smarts" I think Misty is years ahead of most of us in the way to be a con...maybe not her by chose but to survive in the life she was dealt....kinda sad to me....I still blame a lot on her parents, it was their job to raise her not for her to raise herself.jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 10, 2009, 01:22:03 AM
sorry... not getting a education in school.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 01:54:00 AM
I would like to know also how Teresa knew about the threesome. It isn't something one would sit down and tell your mother at the dinner table  ::MonkeyEek::
Again, it's a cultural thing, in my opinion. While folks like you and me would never engage in such behavior - let alone share stories about it with our parents - some people don't have the same standards. You can't imagine what some kids live with, observe, and participate in.
Wow, I just can't imagine talking about things like that with parents, how uncomfortable.

Where does it say that TN knew about the threesome?

The following is what I read, that TM told TN about the threesome.

Tim told TN about it and the threesome. This is the kind of life they are living and having this 5-year-old child in, dragging this 5-year-old child around or leaving alone. All the thugs and drug addicts they hang out with. With what poor little Junior has to live with too. Disgrace to American society that two people can do this to two small children that will never have a chance in this world. All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6215.msg977201#msg977201


In part 1 of the 2 mp3s released with Tim Miller today, he stated: Ronald's mother told me "We all know about that threesome and stuff."  It's at 2:23 of the mp3.

Sorry if this has been answered. I am catching up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 02:04:03 AM
IM, NG also gave examples of some of Misty's lies, she came down really hard on her, she showed the footage of Misty talking to the guy at the airport and saying that she didnt fail those poly's because that weekend was a lie, then she turned around and showed the clip from the Early Show where Misty said on there that she did fail the poly's and it was because she felt guilty from being the last one to see HaLeigh.....I was glad when she took up for Crystal.......thats why my avi still has NG as a hero for the time being..

oh and TN said Misty hasn't signed the divorce papers yet, and she seemed a bit p.o.'d that she hadn't.

I've been really busy but I did catch that part of the interview and was rather surprised.  Seems to me it was just a couple of days ago that Ronald filed for divorce.  I don't even think Misty has been in the same town since he did.  So he would have to track her down to get the papers to her and I'm assuming they would need to be notarized. 

I just don't understand why all the "surprise" over the divorce papers not being signed yet.

Me neither but it sure looked like they expected her to either go back to the lawyers office & sign them as soon as they told her they were ready - only takes about 15 minutes to type up a simple divorce paper - or else they fed ex'd them to her & she hadn't returned them.

When the road rage fiasco occurred, Misty was reportedly on her way to her lawyer's.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 02:24:42 AM
Looks like Misty's lawyer has dropped her as a client.

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/101009/news_2072176.shtml

Lawyer drop Misty Cummings

By RICHARD PRIOR Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009

Misty Cummings' lawyer, who failed to talk her out of going to New York for a nationally televised interview Friday morning, is no longer representing her.

The announcement came the same day his former client suggested someone on her husband's side of the family may know what happened to her missing stepdaughter.

"I can't really speak about the reasons, other than Misty doesn't need me any more," said Robert Fields, with the Palatka firm of Dowda & Fields. "She's an adult now; she's married.

"She can make her own decisions."

Cummings is the stepmother of HaLeigh Cummings, who was 5 years old when she disappeared from her father's Satsuma mobile home the night of Feb. 9.

Cummings, who was Ronald Cummings' live-in girlfriend at the time, was babysitting HaLeigh and her younger brother while their father worked a night shift as a crane operator.

She is the last known person to have seen the child.

Misty and Ronald Cummings were married March 12, one month after the child disappeared.

Ronald Cummings' attorney confirmed Tuesday that he was asking his wife for a divorce.

Fields said he contacted Cummings on Thursday after hearing she was planning to appear on the CBS Morning News on Friday.

She said she would not but flew to New York for the show anyway.

Fields said he texted her, notifying her of his decision, when the program aired. He didn't know if she actually got the message because she hadn't called him back as of Friday night.

Helping get clients through difficult times relies less on newsprint and the glare of television cameras, and more on "boring, gray, straight line work," Fields said.

Cummings apparently didn't agree.

On-line chat rooms are filled with reaction to Cummings' appearance on national television as well as the traffic stop she was caught up in on Wednesday.

A driver on Interstate 4 called 911 and said the driver of a car Cummings was riding in had threatened her with a handgun as they raced down the roadway, in a scene that one on-line blogger compared to "Thelma and Louise."

A Seminole County Sheriff's deputy had the car pull off at the Lake Mary exit.

Cummings, 17, and the driver, identified as Donna Brock, 43, were handcuffed and the car searched. They were released when no weapon was found.

Brock has been identified as a volunteer - or, perhaps, a former volunteer -- with EquuSearch, a Texas-based search and recovery group that the missing girl's family called on just after the disappearance.

Tim Miller, owner of EquuSearch, later became openly critical of Misty Cummings for months, insisting she knows more than she's telling investigators.

An Orlando Sentinel article said Brock lives in Georgia.

The incident report filed by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office lists the alleged victim of the "road rage" clash as Courtney Ballinger, 25. The report says her address is in Massachusetts.

The zip code for her address is Madison, Miss.

The area code for her two phones is Orlando.

Ballinger has been identified on a Facebook page as being as friend, or acquaintance, of "Steph," a man who runs a chat site devoted to HaLeigh Cummings and her disappearance.

That has led some on-line speculators to wonder out loud if the alleged encounter on the interstate was accidental.

Fields said his decision to no longer represent Cummings had nothing to do with the alleged "road rage" incident.

"This had everything to do with me advising her not to go into a potentially dangerous situation and her ignoring that advice," he said. "If she would listen to me, I believe I could get her through this."

Cummings appeared Friday on CBS Morning News in New York wearing a white "Have You Seen Me?" sweat shirt with a large photograph of her missing stepdaughter in the middle.

With her hair falling past her shoulders, she looked even younger than her 17 years.

She said her husband "tells me it's just too much pressure on us right now," when the interviewer asked if she knew why divorce papers had been filed.

She also said near the end of the five-minute interview that she and her husband may get back together if HaLeigh is found and their lives return to "normal."

The interviewer asked if the pending divorce meant Ronald Cummings had begun to think she had something to do with his daughter's disappearance.

"No," she said. "I don't think so. He hasn't really said much about it. He believes me. He doesn't think I had anything to do with HaLeigh going missing."

Asked if she had any ideas about what happened to the little girl, Cummings said, "Someone came and got her. Obviously."

"I feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her," she continued. "That's just how I feel."

Investigators haven't given that possibility a whole lot of attention, she suggested.

"I don't think they looked at everyone as close as they have me," she said.

Cummings calmly reflected on her possibilities when the interviewer asked about her immediate plans.

"I just need to move on and look for the right person," she said. "They're focusing on me. I'm not the one that has HaLeigh. I don't know where she is.

"They need to look for the person that does have HaLeigh."



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: jules3699 on October 10, 2009, 02:33:25 AM
TN is a big fat liar.
She sure is, she makes me ill  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And TN said she stands by Gods word if she prays for Haleigh to be alive then she will be found alive... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 10, 2009, 02:34:37 AM
Looks like Misty's lawyer has dropped her as a client.

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/101009/news_2072176.shtml

Lawyer drop Misty Cummings

By RICHARD PRIOR Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009

Misty Cummings' lawyer, who failed to talk her out of going to New York for a nationally televised interview Friday morning, is no longer representing her.

The announcement came the same day his former client suggested someone on her husband's side of the family may know what happened to her missing stepdaughter.

"I can't really speak about the reasons, other than Misty doesn't need me any more," said Robert Fields, with the Palatka firm of Dowda & Fields. "She's an adult now; she's married.

"She can make her own decisions."

Cummings is the stepmother of HaLeigh Cummings, who was 5 years old when she disappeared from her father's Satsuma mobile home the night of Feb. 9.

Cummings, who was Ronald Cummings' live-in girlfriend at the time, was babysitting HaLeigh and her younger brother while their father worked a night shift as a crane operator.

She is the last known person to have seen the child.

Misty and Ronald Cummings were married March 12, one month after the child disappeared.

Ronald Cummings' attorney confirmed Tuesday that he was asking his wife for a divorce.

Fields said he contacted Cummings on Thursday after hearing she was planning to appear on the CBS Morning News on Friday.

She said she would not but flew to New York for the show anyway.

Fields said he texted her, notifying her of his decision, when the program aired. He didn't know if she actually got the message because she hadn't called him back as of Friday night.

Helping get clients through difficult times relies less on newsprint and the glare of television cameras, and more on "boring, gray, straight line work," Fields said.

Cummings apparently didn't agree.

On-line chat rooms are filled with reaction to Cummings' appearance on national television as well as the traffic stop she was caught up in on Wednesday.

A driver on Interstate 4 called 911 and said the driver of a car Cummings was riding in had threatened her with a handgun as they raced down the roadway, in a scene that one on-line blogger compared to "Thelma and Louise."

A Seminole County Sheriff's deputy had the car pull off at the Lake Mary exit.

Cummings, 17, and the driver, identified as Donna Brock, 43, were handcuffed and the car searched. They were released when no weapon was found.

Brock has been identified as a volunteer - or, perhaps, a former volunteer -- with EquuSearch, a Texas-based search and recovery group that the missing girl's family called on just after the disappearance.

Tim Miller, owner of EquuSearch, later became openly critical of Misty Cummings for months, insisting she knows more than she's telling investigators.

An Orlando Sentinel article said Brock lives in Georgia.

The incident report filed by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office lists the alleged victim of the "road rage" clash as Courtney Ballinger, 25. The report says her address is in Massachusetts.

The zip code for her address is Madison, Miss.

The area code for her two phones is Orlando.

Ballinger has been identified on a Facebook page as being as friend, or acquaintance, of "Steph," a man who runs a chat site devoted to HaLeigh Cummings and her disappearance.

That has led some on-line speculators to wonder out loud if the alleged encounter on the interstate was accidental.

Fields said his decision to no longer represent Cummings had nothing to do with the alleged "road rage" incident.

"This had everything to do with me advising her not to go into a potentially dangerous situation and her ignoring that advice," he said. "If she would listen to me, I believe I could get her through this."

Cummings appeared Friday on CBS Morning News in New York wearing a white "Have You Seen Me?" sweat shirt with a large photograph of her missing stepdaughter in the middle.

With her hair falling past her shoulders, she looked even younger than her 17 years.

She said her husband "tells me it's just too much pressure on us right now," when the interviewer asked if she knew why divorce papers had been filed.

She also said near the end of the five-minute interview that she and her husband may get back together if HaLeigh is found and their lives return to "normal."

The interviewer asked if the pending divorce meant Ronald Cummings had begun to think she had something to do with his daughter's disappearance.

"No," she said. "I don't think so. He hasn't really said much about it. He believes me. He doesn't think I had anything to do with HaLeigh going missing."

Asked if she had any ideas about what happened to the little girl, Cummings said, "Someone came and got her. Obviously."

"I feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her," she continued. "That's just how I feel."

Investigators haven't given that possibility a whole lot of attention, she suggested.

"I don't think they looked at everyone as close as they have me," she said.

Cummings calmly reflected on her possibilities when the interviewer asked about her immediate plans.

"I just need to move on and look for the right person," she said. "They're focusing on me. I'm not the one that has HaLeigh. I don't know where she is.

"They need to look for the person that does have HaLeigh."



Thanks Brandi,

Misty would have been better off listening to her lawyer and taking his advice....sounds like she has really got herself in a mess now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 02:37:49 AM
Misty was really lucky to have had Fields as her lawyer, too. He has a great reputation.

She really should have listened to him.

Her loss, and maybe Haleigh's gain. Maybe we'll find out where Haleigh is now.

Just maybe.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 10, 2009, 03:16:03 AM
I guess that Misty thinks that she can do whatever she wants without consequences .....I think that is all about to change....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 10, 2009, 06:47:35 AM
Nancy Grace Transcripts  10/09/09
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/09/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 10, 2009, 06:49:42 AM
Misty was really lucky to have had Fields as her lawyer, too. He has a great reputation.

She really should have listened to him.

Her loss, and maybe Haleigh's gain. Maybe we'll find out where Haleigh is now.

Just maybe.

Ya know Misty's interview & cockiness with Bob Kealing at the airport compared to her interview on The Early Show were very sharp in contrast.   Its one thing wondering why her own family would sacrifice her for a xanax or Ron/TN are backing away from their previous defending her (too long to expound on that one) but when decent, reputable individuals cannot support her nor believe her its significant.  The fact that this attorney resigned as her attorney, very telling.   I hope this equates to answers as to what happened to Haleigh & finding out for certain the person(s) responsible so they can be prosecuted to the fully extent of the law.    I truly believe the snit is about to hit the fan now, its about dang time!


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Post by: trimmonthelake on October 10, 2009, 06:54:35 AM
Dr. Lillian Glass on Nancy Grace0 Misty Cummings Body Language on the Early Show
http://www.youtube.com/v/Q4GSrA4_Dq0&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1


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Post by: numbersgirl on October 10, 2009, 07:35:25 AM
Good Morning Monks!
 
So, now Misty is without a lawyer.  What will happen the next time LE wants to talk with her?  Without legal representation, is she fair game for LE?
Could this be part of the plan by TM ?  Or Lord, I hope so.   ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: Cappuccino on October 10, 2009, 08:01:08 AM
Good Morning Monks!
 
So, now Misty is without a lawyer.  What will happen the next time LE wants to talk with her?  Without legal representation, is she fair game for LE?
Could this be part of the plan by TM ?  Or Lord, I hope so.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Well they can ask her anything they want & she has the choice to answer.  Basicaly, if she is arrested, she gets mirandarized (rights read) she then has a choice to answer questions or remain silent and ask for counsel (if she doesnt have one nor can afford one, one will be appointed to her-PD public defender)


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Post by: trimmonthelake on October 10, 2009, 08:02:49 AM
Good Morning Monks!
 
So, now Misty is without a lawyer.  What will happen the next time LE wants to talk with her?  Without legal representation, is she fair game for LE?
Could this be part of the plan by TM ?  Or Lord, I hope so.   ::MonkeyTongue::

I hope so too.   ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: theboyzmom on October 10, 2009, 08:34:37 AM
Good Morning Monks!
 
So, now Misty is without a lawyer.  What will happen the next time LE wants to talk with her?  Without legal representation, is she fair game for LE?
Could this be part of the plan by TM ?  Or Lord, I hope so.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Well they can ask her anything they want & she has the choice to answer.  Basicaly, if she is arrested, she gets mirandarized (rights read) she then has a choice to answer questions or remain silent and ask for counsel (if she doesnt have one nor can afford one, one will be appointed to her-PD public defender)

good answer Capp. I wonder if the smug little smirk that Iam sure she wears every time she says to LE "I've got and attorney" will be gone?

OT - why is O4Bull's avi showing up next to everyone?


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Post by: trimmonthelake on October 10, 2009, 09:20:46 AM
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/10/10/news/news01.txt
Misty on police radar despite comments on TV

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:44 AM EDT
After eight months of scrutiny, Misty Cummings says the police and public need to focus their attention on someone else.

"They just need to move on and look for the right person because they're focusing on me, and I'm not the one who has Haleigh," the 17-year-old told CBS's "Early Show" co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez in a segment aired Friday. "I don't know where she is so they need to look for the person that does have Haleigh."

Misty Cummings was babysitting then 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings the night the kindergartner disappeared from her Satsuma home last February.

But authorities investigating the child's disappearance say Misty Cummings' statements have been inconsistent and they will continue to press for answers.

"She does have information that we need," Putnam County sheriff's spokesman Lt. Johnny Greenwood said Friday. "There are still things that she has been telling us that do not match the physical evidence."

Cummings flew to New York on Thursday to appear on the CBS program against her attorney's recommendation. During Friday's interview, Cummings appeared subdued. She wore a T-shirt with Haleigh's photo.

She told Rodriguez she thinks Haleigh is alive, and family members are holding her.
"Someone came in and got her, obviously," Cummings said. "I feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her."

Cummings wasn't pressed for further details, such as whether the "other side of the family" was her estranged husband, Ronald Cummings, or the family of Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield.

Ronald Cummings' attorney termed Misty Cummings' assertion "absolutely ludicrous."

"That was stated merely for the purpose of deflecting attention away from her," lawyer Brandon Beardsley told the Orlando Sentinel.

Cummings, who reportedly has failed several lie detector tests, said she was only supposed to undergo hypnosis when she took the latest polygraph in August. She attributed the failures to "I feel like it's my fault because I was the last one seen with her."

Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's father, has said he was divorcing Misty Cummings. The paperwork is set to go through next week, according to her attorney, Robert Fields of Palatka.

Misty Cummings discussed the pending divorce with Rodriguez.

"If that's what happens, it happens," Cummings said. "We're going to still stay in contact. And if something happens down the road, then we might end up back together. I don't know."

Cummings also told Rodriguez that the divorce has nothing to do with her criticism from investigators.
"He tells me, it's just too much pressure on us right now," she said of her husband. "And you know, I got family problems. My family's trying to start problems. It's just too hard.

"He believes me. He doesn't think I had anything to do with Haleigh going missing."

Added Cummings, "I just want everything to be back to normal. I want Haleigh home," Cummings said.

CBS acknowledged the network paid Misty Cummings' travel expenses to appear on the program and said a second segment would be aired on Monday in which she further criticizes her family.

The sheriff's office has now received approximately 5,000 tips since Haleigh was reporting missing at 3:27 a.m. Feb. 10.

Cummings, who was babysitting Haleigh the night she disappeared, told authorities she put Haleigh to bed at 8 p.m., and awoke at 3 a.m. to discover the child missing. She married Ronald Cummings about a month later.

Authorities have said they believe Haleigh was abducted. No suspects have been identified.


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Post by: Kat_Gram on October 10, 2009, 09:46:07 AM
I think we were all being played with all of this lately. Not TM, but Ron, Teresa and Misty. It does seem staged. All of this media blitz to what ? Protest that they all know nothing ?


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Post by: twocents on October 10, 2009, 09:50:30 AM
Ok... jumping off a branch to add my 2 cents! Is it just me or does Misty not look upset about the divorce? What 17 year old girl does not get upset about a breakup with their boyfriend (in this case husband). It just doesn't make sense. I for one think its all just a big ruse. Neither of them look to concerned about it. I think they have no intentions of getting a divorce.


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Post by: jules3699 on October 10, 2009, 09:57:43 AM
I wonder if the girl at the bar who told TM that she saw Misty out that night also saw Haleigh and Jr with her or did she leave them at home?


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Post by: strayze on October 10, 2009, 09:58:32 AM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 10:01:50 AM
Misty was really lucky to have had Fields as her lawyer, too. He has a great reputation.

She really should have listened to him.

Her loss, and maybe Haleigh's gain. Maybe we'll find out where Haleigh is now.

Just maybe.
Never a dull moment, Misty messed up big time not listening to her lawyer, wonder if she will get another?


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 10:03:19 AM
Ok... jumping off a branch to add my 2 cents! Is it just me or does Misty not look upset about the divorce? What 17 year old girl does not get upset about a breakup with their boyfriend (in this case husband). It just doesn't make sense. I for one think its all just a big ruse. Neither of them look to concerned about it. I think they have no intentions of getting a divorce.
I think it is a scam, I think whatever they can get away with by scamming they will. They are in the money now  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 10:04:37 AM
TN is a big fat liar.
She sure is, she makes me ill  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And TN said she stands by Gods word if she prays for Haleigh to be alive then she will be found alive... ::MonkeyConfused::
Okay  ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: Kat_Gram on October 10, 2009, 10:09:07 AM
I agree with you , this divorce thing is staged. Now that her lawyer isn't her lawyer, that will cause a delay.
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When I would go to Art's site, there were comments made saying that all they needed was one person to say they were with Misty or saw her that night. The kind of persons she hung around with didn't seem to clear on the concept of where they were on what days and their reliability factor was zero.
So, TN knew all about the rumors that turned into the truth about what Misty was doing the weekend before and she still came on the shows and was behind Misty ? Even giving her a ring ? WTF kind of a woman is she ? A liar and a con for one in my books.   


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 10:17:38 AM
I agree with you , this divorce thing is staged. Now that her lawyer isn't her lawyer, that will cause a delay.
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When I would go to Art's site, there were comments made saying that all they needed was one person to say they were with Misty or saw her that night. The kind of persons she hung around with didn't seem to clear on the concept of where they were on what days and their reliability factor was zero.
So, TN knew all about the rumors that turned into the truth about what Misty was doing the weekend before and she still came on the shows and was behind Misty ? Even giving her a ring ? WTF kind of a woman is she ? A liar and a con for one in my books.   
Yup, a liar and a con, and obviously doesn't think to highly of her grandchildren.


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Post by: jules3699 on October 10, 2009, 10:31:23 AM
I think Misty is going to get her wish!! ::MonkeyHaHa::
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- She is the 17-year-old who hasn't had a lot to say about Haleigh Cummings disappearance until today.

"Thank you to everyone who's tried to help us," said Misty Croslin. Croslin is the girlfriend of Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings. She is also the last person to see Haleigh.

Croslin talked about how tired she was the night Haleigh disappeared. "I was over-exhausted. I was real tired. I had a long weekend," she said.

Croslin and Ronald Cummings reported Haleigh missing around 3:30 a.m. last Tuesday. The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.

Some are questioning whether or not Croslin was home the evening Haleigh disappeared. In response to those who question her, Croslin said, "They're lying...Wish they could come to me and tell me I wasn't home that night."

http://www.fox30online.com/ conte...fPGkzJ4_pg.cspx

She said this I think back in March....


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Post by: Kat_Gram on October 10, 2009, 10:34:20 AM
Teresa tried to pefume a couple of pigs. And stood by them. And lied for them. Why ?
Ron Jr. isn't in an extreme harms way because they have been with Sykes.
But having him in that environment is child abuse. Fighting, doing drugs, dragging him around to drug houses. Another one who isn't going to stand a chance in life. I don't know how any court or children's services could go for Ron having the kid. Surely to God if Crystal had him Teresa could get some sort of visiting ( Spelt out as to where and who the kid came into contact with ).
My take on Teresa is that her hate on for Crystal and her fear of losing Ron Jr. to the dark side of the Sheffields came first, not her grandchildren's best interests or well being. Where was she when Ron was with Amber, who is way worse than Misty ?   


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Post by: jules3699 on October 10, 2009, 10:40:58 AM
Teresa tried to pefume a couple of pigs. And stood by them. And lied for them. Why ?
Ron Jr. isn't in an extreme harms way because they have been with Sykes.
But having him in that environment is child abuse. Fighting, doing drugs, dragging him around to drug houses. Another one who isn't going to stand a chance in life. I don't know how any court or children's services could go for Ron having the kid. Surely to God if Crystal had him Teresa could get some sort of visiting ( Spelt out as to where and who the kid came into contact with ).
My take on Teresa is that her hate on for Crystal and her fear of losing Ron Jr. to the dark side of the Sheffields came first, not her grandchildren's best interests or well being. Where was she when Ron was with Amber, who is way worse than Misty ?   

I agree  ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: mymonkey on October 10, 2009, 10:41:11 AM
Teresa tried to pefume a couple of pigs. And stood by them. And lied for them. Why ?
Ron Jr. isn't in an extreme harms way because they have been with Sykes.
But having him in that environment is child abuse. Fighting, doing drugs, dragging him around to drug houses. Another one who isn't going to stand a chance in life. I don't know how any court or children's services could go for Ron having the kid. Surely to God if Crystal had him Teresa could get some sort of visiting ( Spelt out as to where and who the kid came into contact with ).
My take on Teresa is that her hate on for Crystal and her fear of losing Ron Jr. to the dark side of the Sheffields came first, not her grandchildren's best interests or well being. Where was she when Ron was with Amber, who is way worse than Misty ?   

I  would say that Amber and Misty are from the same Sisterhood....both losers.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 11:04:59 AM
I'm wondering why TM said all that he did, now that everyone knows this info, how is Misty going to react? We have seen what her lawyer has done, which tells me he is a good lawyer, she wasn't listening and he dumped her as a client.


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Post by: sailcat on October 10, 2009, 11:05:10 AM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
My apologies, Strayze. I misspoke and did not express myself well. I'm truly sorry. -Sailcat


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 11:12:34 AM
sailcat and strayze you both have different views on this topic, that is what makes all of this interesting, at least for me, I have no experience in these topics, work wise, family members with drug and alcohol abuse, yes. I appreciate everybodies input  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: higherhopes on October 10, 2009, 11:23:07 AM
I'm wondering why TM said all that he did, now that everyone knows this info, how is Misty going to react? We have seen what her lawyer has done, which tells me he is a good lawyer, she wasn't listening and he dumped her as a client.
I think Misty already had a idea what this Donna woman was doing, Misty knew that she was connected with Tim to begin with because she met her when they were giving her the polys, and so being as street smart as she is, she knew something was up, so I think she will continue to stay with this lady and reep whatever benifits she can, she has no where else to go, unless she goes back to her family, well after her Mother gets out of jail that is, Just because Donna wants to get info from her doesnt mean Misty will talk, she might just be pulling one on Tim and take his money and live good with no intentions of ever saying anything,,,,,,but...she will eventually go down, she thinks she is smarter then everyone else, and thats usually when someone fails.IMO


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 11:28:18 AM
I'm wondering why TM said all that he did, now that everyone knows this info, how is Misty going to react? We have seen what her lawyer has done, which tells me he is a good lawyer, she wasn't listening and he dumped her as a client.
I think Misty already had a idea what this Donna woman was doing, Misty knew that she was connected with Tim to begin with because she met her when they were giving her the polys, and so being as street smart as she is, she knew something was up, so I think she will continue to stay with this lady and reep whatever benifits she can, she has no where else to go, unless she goes back to her family, well after her Mother gets out of jail that is, Just because Donna wants to get info from her doesnt mean Misty will talk, she might just be pulling one on Tim and take his money and live good with no intentions of ever saying anything,,,,,,but...she will eventually go down, she thinks she is smarter then everyone else, and thats usually when someone fails.IMO
The whole bunch of them are nothing but grifters  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Between the Anthonys and Cummings making money off of a child, I hope we never see this behavior again.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 11:30:32 AM
 I also wanted to make a comment about NG and what she said about Crystal not having anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, I also almost fell out of my chair. I'm glad HH you still have Nancy in her Wonder Woman costume, after that she deserves to stay in that costume for awhile  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: higherhopes on October 10, 2009, 11:37:04 AM
I also wanted to make a comment about NG and what she said about Crystal not having anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, I also almost fell out of my chair. I'm glad HH you still have Nancy in her Wonder Woman costume, after that she deserves to stay in that costume for awhile  ::MonkeyCool::
Yep, she does, thats the only thing that saved her, I was all ready for a avi change if she messed up but after saying something good about Crystals family for once I decided NG deserved to wear her Hero constume for awhile longer..lol


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 11:48:51 AM
http://radionewz.net/        Gunny has put his two cents in about the latest happenings  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyRoll::


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Post by: numbersgirl on October 10, 2009, 12:00:21 PM
I think Misty is going to get her wish!! ::MonkeyHaHa::
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- She is the 17-year-old who hasn't had a lot to say about Haleigh Cummings disappearance until today.

"Thank you to everyone who's tried to help us," said Misty Croslin. Croslin is the girlfriend of Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings. She is also the last person to see Haleigh.

Croslin talked about how tired she was the night Haleigh disappeared. "I was over-exhausted. I was real tired. I had a long weekend," she said.

Croslin and Ronald Cummings reported Haleigh missing around 3:30 a.m. last Tuesday. The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.

Some are questioning whether or not Croslin was home the evening Haleigh disappeared. In response to those who question her, Croslin said, "They're lying...Wish they could come to me and tell me I wasn't home that night."

http://www.fox30online.com/ conte...fPGkzJ4_pg.cspx

She said this I think back in March....

Misty talks about being "over-tired" the night HaLeigh "got stole".  TN makes excuses for Misty being exhausted from the weekend and sleeping through the "abduction".  Now we hear TM say TN is aware of the "weekend" and threesomes.  How in the world could RC and TN defend Misty unless they are involved in this too?  IMO, Ron's guilty of a whole lot here!  The very least is child endangering since he left his two young children with someone he knew could not responsibly care for them.  I think Ron's drug dealing is involved in HaLeigh's disappearnce and that's the only reason they haven't thrown
Misty under the bus, yet.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

As to this talk of divorce.  IMO - it's a ruse to get these parasites twice the number of "appearances" and twice the $$$.  Before this bombshell (lol), their stories were just same old/same old.  There was nothing left to sell.  Maybe this is why TM has come forward with the information now.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 12:01:59 PM
numbersgirl, I agree with you.


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Post by: numbersgirl on October 10, 2009, 12:06:54 PM
Hi NoRose.  I just pray that someone will do the right thing and give LE the information they need to find little HaLeigh.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
Hi NoRose.  I just pray that someone will do the right thing and give LE the information they need to find little HaLeigh.
I sure hope so, but I don't think so  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Kat_Gram on October 10, 2009, 12:34:04 PM
It was the road rage incident that was the connection between TES, TM and Donna.
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Maybe Misty going to do that show made TM mad. They were working on her behind the scenes to get her to come up with more than " I wuz sleeping " and she goes against her own lawyers advice to do the show ( freebies and a trip and a platform for bs ). I doubt if Tim thought he was paying to have Misty cleaned up a bit, show her that folks don't live the way she does to have her go to NY and spew more and the same bs. Misty will be back to the same old life. And it won't be because people won't help her do better.
I do feel for Misty but when I saw the clips of her and heard what she said, she is beyond the pale. And so is Ron and his mother. The answer has got to come from LE. They have to arrest her. If they don't this nonsense will go on.
....
Bad dream : Her and Ron will get back together, Misty will get a Jon and Kate hairdo and there will be a "FAB" reality show !  On the "Scared Straight Network with Dr. Drew. lol
Episode one : Misty will lose the laundry soap and will look under the beds.
Ron will come home, call her some names, she will call her Daddy, they will all have a beat down in the front yard. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 12:43:56 PM
It was the road rage incident that was the connection between TES, TM and Donna.
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Maybe Misty going to do that show made TM mad. They were working on her behind the scenes to get her to come up with more than " I wuz sleeping " and she goes against her own lawyers advice to do the show ( freebies and a trip and a platform for bs ). I doubt if Tim thought he was paying to have Misty cleaned up a bit, show her that folks don't live the way she does to have her go to NY and spew more and the same bs. Misty will be back to the same old life. And it won't be because people won't help her do better.
I do feel for Misty but when I saw the clips of her and heard what she said, she is beyond the pale. And so is Ron and his mother. The answer has got to come from LE. They have to arrest her. If they don't this nonsense will go on.
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Bad dream : Her and Ron will get back together, Misty will get a Jon and Kate hairdo and there will be a "FAB" reality show !  On the "Scared Straight Network with Dr. Drew. lol
Episode one : Misty will lose the laundry soap and will look under the beds.
Ron will come home, call her some names, she will call her Daddy, they will all have a beat down in the front yard. 
    ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 10, 2009, 12:46:57 PM
Just a quick post nd hen off to a football game. I have been reading all over the place since the set up was dsiclosed and shocked to see so my trashin Tim Miller, mainly on the BNN site..........seriously they are stating that what he did was unethical.

Here is one that really ticked me off:

ksue said,in October 9th, 2009 at 5:04 pm imo it makes tim and his organization look like two faced hill billy’s themselves.
now how is this going to look on tim for when he goes to find another missing person?
imo not very trust worthy.
shame on tim and this donna.
i dont care for any of the players in this mess but what is misty going to do now that she knows she is being setup.

tim keep your mouth shut if you really want to find haleigh and stop playing all ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::





FTLOG KSUE are you serious,

When you are dealing with the type of personalities that were involved with Haleigh on a day to day basis and they are IMO trash plain and simple, what do you expect him to do? If it were my child missing from these circumstances I wouldn't give a chit what he did to find out any and all information possible. When you are dealing with the level of immoral behavoir ( threesome's heavy drug abuse, sex and drug binges, dragging kids with you to get a fix) frankly there is nothing I would't do barring anything illegal. If I felt like I had to con the truth out of them, then so be it............it's not like they are exactly some upstanding citizen of the yr with the records of arrest and those are only for the times they were caught, so would I be willing to play dirty - he77 yes I would and not one person can tell me that they wouldn't do the same. It really pizzes me off to see people qusioning him and saying they won't donate to TES anymore, well then I'll send him some tomorrow to make up for what you won't because of our high moral standards, pfffffffft-that's BS, those that are protesting "his ways " to find Haleigh should put themselves in Crystal's place and sit back and ask affter 8 months what would I NOT do and really consider what has worked and hasn't so far. Since he came back into the scene all he77 has broke loose and the pressure has been racheted up and thank God, it's been way to long and I'm glad someone is trying anything to get the info to put somebody in jail and hope they spill all on everybody. I can ear his frustration when he was talking about the disgrace that Jr is still left in their care and if he feels like he has to play "dirty" then I say game on Tim, fight these people on a level they know best, down and dirty con artist mooching off the disappearance of Haleigh. If it moves the investigation even one inch forward, then that's one inch closer than we were last week. Ans shame on TN for leaving her grandababy Jr in their care after knowing all she knew ::MonkeyNoNo:: makes you wonder what type of life she lives that she thinks it ok. I better quit now before i post somthing that I really feel about the info we rec'd these past few days, but I'm totally disgusted to a new level with FAB, TN and MC.

Thank you Tim for doing all you can to find this baby girl. God bless ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 12:57:05 PM
Thanks IM  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I know one thing that is bugging me, when there is a death or a missing person, or a bad accident, etc., most people show anger, it is one of the things you do, it is human nature. Has anyone seen Granny, Ron or Teresa show any anger towards Misty. I haven't, obviously I don't know what went on behind closed doors. But the fact that everybody was all happy about Ron and Misty's wedding, and them living with Granny, and the fact that Misty lived with Teresa for a little while. I combine all these factors and many, many more, and I come up with all of them knowing where Haleigh is, I don't know what else to think. Where is the anger and outrage.....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 10, 2009, 12:59:58 PM
Thanks IM  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I know one thing that is bugging me, when there is a death or a missing person, or a bad accident, etc., most people show anger, it is one of the things you do, it is human nature. Has anyone seen Granny, Ron or Teresa show any anger towards Misty. I haven't, obviously I don't know what went on behind closed doors. But the fact that everybody was all happy about Ron and Misty's wedding, and them living with Granny, and the fact that Misty lived with Teresa for a little while. I combine all these factors and many, many more, and I come up with all of them knowing where Haleigh is, I don't know what else to think. Where is the anger and outrage.....  ::MonkeyNoNo::
sadly I agree, and the outrage is on the forums..........it's like the anthony's part two. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 01:04:47 PM
Thanks IM  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I know one thing that is bugging me, when there is a death or a missing person, or a bad accident, etc., most people show anger, it is one of the things you do, it is human nature. Has anyone seen Granny, Ron or Teresa show any anger towards Misty. I haven't, obviously I don't know what went on behind closed doors. But the fact that everybody was all happy about Ron and Misty's wedding, and them living with Granny, and the fact that Misty lived with Teresa for a little while. I combine all these factors and many, many more, and I come up with all of them knowing where Haleigh is, I don't know what else to think. Where is the anger and outrage.....  ::MonkeyNoNo::
sadly I agree, and the outrage is on the forums..........it's like the anthony's part two. ::MonkeyMad::

The Anthonys part two is exactly right  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Some of the things being said on some forums is very bad. I believe and I thought from the start of this road rage gate, that Tim was setting up Misty with Donna to be somekind of mother figure, and he meant well, now look what is happening and the bad things being said by some people  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Another example of someone doing good, and gets a kick in the azz for it. I wouldn't blame TM if he walks away from this mess, his health isn't the best, and for his own sanity I wouldn't be surprised. But also he wants to bring Haleigh home so maybe he will continue. I just hate it when good people do the best they can, and people trash them, so wrong.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 10, 2009, 01:06:15 PM
I do believe that what Tim did came from a good heart. It was worth a try wasn't it ? Show her how normal folks live, get her away from Ron and Teresa for a while, treat her nicely.
Misty knew who Donna was, they met when the tests were done.
Donna didn't go in there undercover.
..
I did a read around from some of the links here and Teresa is taking alot of heat on the blogs.  And she deserves it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 10, 2009, 01:11:32 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

I think now would be a good time for LE to turn Crystal loose on Misty. Just let her beat the answer out of her and no charges for it. I think that is the only language Misty understands. IMO Ron , Misty, TN, & GGMS all need to have their azzes in the jail.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 10, 2009, 01:15:42 PM
It is the Networks ( the ones who pandered to FAB, bride of FAB and Mother of the FAB ) who deserve the criticism.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 01:33:47 PM
It is the Networks ( the ones who pandered to FAB, bride of FAB and Mother of the FAB ) who deserve the criticism.

I agree and I wish some of the shows would have decent people on who have lost a child, who want and need air time, and are not looking for a buck.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 01:35:59 PM
Lawyer Drops Misty Cummings as Client

 Josey Crews     Created: 10/10/2009 11:01:24 AM    Updated: 10/10/2009 11:03:21 AM

PALATKA, FL -- Misty Croslin-Cummings, the stepmother of Haliegh Cummings, no longer has legal representation. The move follows an appearance on the CBS Early Morning Show.

Cummings will no longer be represented by Putnam County attorney Robert Fields. He says he feels he has "navigated her through the most difficult parts of this matter," and he "wishes her well."

Fields advised Croslin-Cummings not to New York for the nationally televised interview Friday morning.

During the interview, Cummings suggested someone on her husband's side of the family may know what happened to her missing stepdaughter. Shortly after, Fields made the announcement.

Ronald Cummings' attorney confirmed Tuesday that he was asking his wife for a divorce.

Misty Croslin-Cummings says she put 5-year-old Haleigh to bed on the night of February 9. Early the next morning, the teenager said she woke up to discover Haleigh had vanished. The little girl would've celebrated her 6th birthday in August.

If you have any information that would help investigators locate Haleigh Cummings, call 911 or Crimestoppers at 1-866-845-TIPS. You will remain anonymous and could be eligible for a reward.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=146451&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: melisb on October 10, 2009, 01:50:16 PM
Afternoon Monkeys!  Is it all possible that in the time it took for RC to marry MC that LE had formed a theroy that MC knew more than she was telling or maybe responsible for HaLeigh's disapperance?  Maybe LE shared this with Ron and immediate family and to keep her from running off again he married her?  Marrying her hasn't worked so now he's come up with the idea to turn her loose to see if she will do something to indicate her guilt.  Geez, I wish something would work!  I think all the BS Ron and Mama have been feeding us is just to pacify Misty in her little pea brain.  I just can't for the life of me see anyone putting a ring on the finger of a little slore babysitting my child and loosing her!  It doesn't add up, any of it.  I would do anything and I mean ANYTHING to find my baby.  Yes, even bedding the enemy if it meant finding the truth.  I hate to say it.  No nanners please.  You know what would really be sad...what if she was really passed out (been there in my younger days and slept through the worst FL hurricane) and her brother new this and took her after all?  I hope they haven't dismissed him completely! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 01:52:10 PM
The incident report filed by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office lists the alleged victim of the "road rage" clash as Courtney Ballinger, 25. The report says her address is in Massachusetts.

The zip code for her address is Madison, Miss.

The area code for her two phones is Orlando.

Ballinger has been identified on a Facebook page as being as friend, or acquaintance, of "Steph," a man who runs a chat site devoted to HaLeigh Cummings and her disappearance.

That has led some on-line speculators to wonder out loud if the alleged encounter on the interstate was accidental.

http://staugustine.com/stories/101009/news_2072176.shtml


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 01:56:38 PM
Afternoon Monkeys!  Is it all possible that in the time it took for RC to marry MC that LE had formed a theroy that MC knew more than she was telling or maybe responsible for HaLeigh's disapperance?  Maybe LE shared this with Ron and immediate family and to keep her from running off again he married her?  Marrying her hasn't worked so now he's come up with the idea to turn her loose to see if she will do something to indicate her guilt.  Geez, I wish something would work!  I think all the BS Ron and Mama have been feeding us is just to pacify Misty in her little pea brain.  I just can't for the life of me see anyone putting a ring on the finger of a little slore babysitting my child and loosing her!  It doesn't add up, any of it.  I would do anything and I mean ANYTHING to find my baby.  Yes, even bedding the enemy if it meant finding the truth.  I hate to say it.  No nanners please.  You know what would really be sad...what if she was really passed out (been there in my younger days and slept through the worst FL hurricane) and her brother new this and took her after all?  I hope they haven't dismissed him completely! 
That all could have been what happened. I have thought also what if Misty really was passed out. I don't know, to me this shouldn't be such a difficult case to solve, I think a lot of mistakes were made by LE in the beginning, imo. And I can't get passed the dumpster and three dogs hitting on it, too me that has always been very important.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 01:58:40 PM
Afternoon Monkeys!  Is it all possible that in the time it took for RC to marry MC that LE had formed a theroy that MC knew more than she was telling or maybe responsible for HaLeigh's disapperance?  Maybe LE shared this with Ron and immediate family and to keep her from running off again he married her?  Marrying her hasn't worked so now he's come up with the idea to turn her loose to see if she will do something to indicate her guilt.  Geez, I wish something would work!  I think all the BS Ron and Mama have been feeding us is just to pacify Misty in her little pea brain.  I just can't for the life of me see anyone putting a ring on the finger of a little slore babysitting my child and loosing her!  It doesn't add up, any of it.  I would do anything and I mean ANYTHING to find my baby.  Yes, even bedding the enemy if it meant finding the truth.  I hate to say it.  No nanners please.  You know what would really be sad...what if she was really passed out (been there in my younger days and slept through the worst FL hurricane) and her brother new this and took her after all?  I hope they haven't dismissed him completely! 

First Misty wanted Ronald to stay away from Cobra, at least that was what was reported.

Misty threw Tommy Croslin and her cousin Joe under the bus in the hypnosis episode.

Then Misty accused TM and associates of tricking her and did not want to have anything to do with Tim.

Whats next!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 02:00:54 PM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: melisb on October 10, 2009, 02:02:03 PM
FTLOG Ms. Ballinger!  If, and I say if, this was planned I think we should leave the job to LE.  Of course if she had gotten arrested (which we all want) we would be patting you on the back.  This is a child missing not time for anyone's 15 minutes of fame.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: melisb on October 10, 2009, 02:05:43 PM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::

I forgot to thank you too Heart.

Amen NRGC!  Too many LE mistakes.  FDLE should have taken over cause there is too much of the Bubba network in our dinky little FL towns.  I live in one I should know. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 02:13:01 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys,


Levi Page's radio show was informative the last time I listened when T.J. Ward was a guest, he can do a voice analysis from a tape, he does not need a person sitting in front like MC.  He is covering a few topics tonight, one is Haleigh Cummings.
I am sorry for all the links, I like full written directions.

http://levipageshow.blogspot.com/2009/10/tonight-on-levi-page-

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LeviPage/2009/10/12/The-Levi-Page-Show

The Levi Page show will be airing Live tonight at 10 PM EST / 9 CST / 8 MST / 7 PST

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LeviPage/2009/10/04/Caylee-Anthony-Haleigh-Cummings

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 02:20:01 PM
Ok... jumping off a branch to add my 2 cents! Is it just me or does Misty not look upset about the divorce? What 17 year old girl does not get upset about a breakup with their boyfriend (in this case husband). It just doesn't make sense. I for one think its all just a big ruse. Neither of them look to concerned about it. I think they have no intentions of getting a divorce.

I have serious questions about the "divorce" as well. And always have, since we got wind of it.

If it does go through, I think they will get back together.

I think there is some plan for this, I just cannot figure out what it is yet.

I agree, twocents. Something wrong here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Thanks IM  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I know one thing that is bugging me, when there is a death or a missing person, or a bad accident, etc., most people show anger, it is one of the things you do, it is human nature. Has anyone seen Granny, Ron or Teresa show any anger towards Misty. I haven't, obviously I don't know what went on behind closed doors. But the fact that everybody was all happy about Ron and Misty's wedding, and them living with Granny, and the fact that Misty lived with Teresa for a little while. I combine all these factors and many, many more, and I come up with all of them knowing where Haleigh is, I don't know what else to think. Where is the anger and outrage.....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi No Rose Colored Glasses,

I am going to take a wild guess, that gma, gma and RC are covering their hairy behinds. The divorce will be part of the plan, for when this goes to trial, pointing to MC as a "vindictive scorned woman" and nothing to be believed. RC is misleading MC with a tinge of hope to get back together "after this is over", I say "FAT CHANCE" Misty, "she is in it" and they are too, or else MC would be choked like a beet!  ::MonkeyMad:: IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 02:21:14 PM
Good Morning Monks!
 
So, now Misty is without a lawyer.  What will happen the next time LE wants to talk with her?  Without legal representation, is she fair game for LE?
Could this be part of the plan by TM ?  Or Lord, I hope so.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Well they can ask her anything they want & she has the choice to answer.  Basicaly, if she is arrested, she gets mirandarized (rights read) she then has a choice to answer questions or remain silent and ask for counsel (if she doesnt have one nor can afford one, one will be appointed to her-PD public defender)

As it should be.  I never understood how she was going to pay Fields for his services in the first place.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 10, 2009, 02:27:50 PM
Maybe the voice analysis could be used on Teresa and Ron ?
We all know the answer to Misty's. Deception.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 02:33:19 PM
@jobellc Not sure who you are referring to but Ron and Teresa were only in NYC to do the show and flew home that night. about 2 hours ago from web in reply to jobellc

@HaleighNewz The shows fly you up the night before and fly you home after the show. If he is doing a show monday he will fly up sunday nightabout 2 hours ago from web in reply to HaleighNewz

@mudboggingqueen No Jr is with his daddy about 1 hour ago from web in reply to mudboggingqueen

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 02:37:00 PM
Hi again, Monkeys,

LE stated he has "physical evidence", MC wasn't home, curious, is there photos or video of the Me'nage a' Trois?

Physical evidence?  could mean DNA, (or photos or video). Geraldo's show, a few weeks back, an Attorney on the guest panel,
insisted that they must have "something", GR didn't allow the guest to finish his sentence.  I wonder if that "something" is physical
proof of the Threesome House?  With all the cellphones/ Picture Phones, the Thugs have I would not doubt they take  photos for blackmail?  IMO 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 02:39:30 PM
Maybe the voice analysis could be used on Teresa and Ron ?
We all know the answer to Misty's. Deception.
::MonkeyDaphotos  ::MonkeyTease::nce::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 02:39:58 PM
Thanks IM  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I know one thing that is bugging me, when there is a death or a missing person, or a bad accident, etc., most people show anger, it is one of the things you do, it is human nature. Has anyone seen Granny, Ron or Teresa show any anger towards Misty. I haven't, obviously I don't know what went on behind closed doors. But the fact that everybody was all happy about Ron and Misty's wedding, and them living with Granny, and the fact that Misty lived with Teresa for a little while. I combine all these factors and many, many more, and I come up with all of them knowing where Haleigh is, I don't know what else to think. Where is the anger and outrage.....  ::MonkeyNoNo::
sadly I agree, and the outrage is on the forums..........it's like the anthony's part two. ::MonkeyMad::

The Anthonys part two is exactly right  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Some of the things being said on some forums is very bad. I believe and I thought from the start of this road rage gate, that Tim was setting up Misty with Donna to be somekind of mother figure, and he meant well, now look what is happening and the bad things being said by some people  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Another example of someone doing good, and gets a kick in the azz for it. I wouldn't blame TM if he walks away from this mess, his health isn't the best, and for his own sanity I wouldn't be surprised. But also he wants to bring Haleigh home so maybe he will continue. I just hate it when good people do the best they can, and people trash them, so wrong.

No Rose, I totally agree with you concerning Tim. He is a good man, he is desperately trying to find Haleigh. He is doing the best he can. I hope he has the strength to continue trying to find her.

I was feeling the same way the other day when so many people were attacking the victim in the road rage incident without any evidence that she was anything but an innocent victim in this case!

We stand for victims and their rights on this forum. That was not what I sensed in regard to that woman. I surely would hate to be an innocent person who got included in a case like this by circumstance. I would hate (even though I have nothing to hide) having my life and reputation exposed for all to see and try to tear apart on speculation on the Internet and in the "press."

Just wanted to get that off my chest.

Hello monkeys!







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 02:40:36 PM
Misty was really lucky to have had Fields as her lawyer, too. He has a great reputation.

She really should have listened to him.

Her loss, and maybe Haleigh's gain. Maybe we'll find out where Haleigh is now.

Just maybe.

Ya know Misty's interview & cockiness with Bob Kealing at the airport compared to her interview on The Early Show were very sharp in contrast.   Its one thing wondering why her own family would sacrifice her for a xanax or Ron/TN are backing away from their previous defending her (too long to expound on that one) but when decent, reputable individuals cannot support her nor believe her its significant.  The fact that this attorney resigned as her attorney, very telling.   I hope this equates to answers as to what happened to Haleigh & finding out for certain the person(s) responsible so they can be prosecuted to the fully extent of the law.    I truly believe the snit is about to hit the fan now, its about dang time!

I agree with you both!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 02:41:40 PM
Maybe the voice analysis could be used on Teresa and Ron ?
We all know the answer to Misty's. Deception.
::MonkeyDaphotos  ::MonkeyTease::nce::

Yes, good idea, and Gma-Syke, too! TN is the one I would be interested in for voice test on a tape. ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 02:42:19 PM
HMMM, it seems that Marie's sister Dana drives a Gold Silverado, so I guess the scanner report the poster heard was not fabricated.  about 3 hours ago from web

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 02:46:38 PM
Ok... jumping off a branch to add my 2 cents! Is it just me or does Misty not look upset about the divorce? What 17 year old girl does not get upset about a breakup with their boyfriend (in this case husband). It just doesn't make sense. I for one think its all just a big ruse. Neither of them look to concerned about it. I think they have no intentions of getting a divorce.

Hmmmm... good points, Twocents.  Am beginning to wonder the same, and if this supposed divorce was just more in their staged drama.  If it's not really gonna happen, could be why Misty doesn't look too upset, and even cocky.  It's mind-boggling, trying to figure it all out, that's for sure.   ::MonkeyConfused::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 02:48:20 PM
The easiest way to get the little beast to talk is to tick her off.  She is under the impressive or hopeful they will get back together.  A photo of Ron with a cute girl or Misty sees Ron with another female, Misty will tell all, simple. A girl could just ask
him for directions and snap a photo and show Misty, is looking for another "step mom".


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 02:51:49 PM
The easiest way to get the little beast to talk is to tick her off.  She is under the impressive or hopeful they will get back together.  A photo of Ron with a cute girl or Misty sees Ron with another female, Misty will tell all, simple. A girl could just ask
him for directions and snap a photo and show Misty, is looking for another "step mom".

I think the best way to get her to talk is to instill fear in her. Fear for herself.

I think that is the only way to reach her.

JMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 02:52:59 PM
TN is a big fat liar.
She sure is, she makes me ill  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And TN said she stands by Gods word if she prays for Haleigh to be alive then she will be found alive... ::MonkeyConfused::
Okay  ::MonkeyEek::

Am guessing that TN could be picking and choosing what she wants to believe and stand by, concerning Gods word.  Cuz there's plenty in there she seems to have ignored.  IMO. Am thinking someone might want to mention to TN, that it doesn't work too well that way. 

JMO.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 02:59:27 PM
Teresa tried to pefume a couple of pigs. And stood by them. And lied for them. Why ?
Ron Jr. isn't in an extreme harms way because they have been with Sykes.
But having him in that environment is child abuse. Fighting, doing drugs, dragging him around to drug houses. Another one who isn't going to stand a chance in life. I don't know how any court or children's services could go for Ron having the kid. Surely to God if Crystal had him Teresa could get some sort of visiting ( Spelt out as to where and who the kid came into contact with ).
My take on Teresa is that her hate on for Crystal and her fear of losing Ron Jr. to the dark side of the Sheffields came first, not her grandchildren's best interests or well being. Where was she when Ron was with Amber, who is way worse than Misty ?   

I  would say that Amber and Misty are from the same Sisterhood....both losers.

I agree, same sisterhood.  And from all that I've read about Amber, which of course hasn't been as much as we've read about Misty, it just *seems* to me that Amber far outshines Misty.  And even that, unfortunately, isn't saying much.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 03:00:53 PM
Thanks IM  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I know one thing that is bugging me, when there is a death or a missing person, or a bad accident, etc., most people show anger, it is one of the things you do, it is human nature. Has anyone seen Granny, Ron or Teresa show any anger towards Misty. I haven't, obviously I don't know what went on behind closed doors. But the fact that everybody was all happy about Ron and Misty's wedding, and them living with Granny, and the fact that Misty lived with Teresa for a little while. I combine all these factors and many, many more, and I come up with all of them knowing where Haleigh is, I don't know what else to think. Where is the anger and outrage.....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi No Rose Colored Glasses,

I am going to take a wild guess, that gma, gma and RC are covering their hairy behinds. The divorce will be part of the plan, for when this goes to trial, pointing to MC as a "vindictive scorned woman" and nothing to be believed. RC is misleading MC with a tinge of hope to get back together "after this is over", I say "FAT CHANCE" Misty, "she is in it" and they are too, or else MC would be choked like a beet!  ::MonkeyMad:: IMO
Yes I totally agree, and thanks for the link to the radio show, he is good, and no nonsense  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 03:01:46 PM
Maybe the voice analysis could be used on Teresa and Ron ?
We all know the answer to Misty's. Deception.
That would be interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 03:04:11 PM
Thanks IM  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I know one thing that is bugging me, when there is a death or a missing person, or a bad accident, etc., most people show anger, it is one of the things you do, it is human nature. Has anyone seen Granny, Ron or Teresa show any anger towards Misty. I haven't, obviously I don't know what went on behind closed doors. But the fact that everybody was all happy about Ron and Misty's wedding, and them living with Granny, and the fact that Misty lived with Teresa for a little while. I combine all these factors and many, many more, and I come up with all of them knowing where Haleigh is, I don't know what else to think. Where is the anger and outrage.....  ::MonkeyNoNo::
sadly I agree, and the outrage is on the forums..........it's like the anthony's part two. ::MonkeyMad::

The Anthonys part two is exactly right  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Some of the things being said on some forums is very bad. I believe and I thought from the start of this road rage gate, that Tim was setting up Misty with Donna to be somekind of mother figure, and he meant well, now look what is happening and the bad things being said by some people  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Another example of someone doing good, and gets a kick in the azz for it. I wouldn't blame TM if he walks away from this mess, his health isn't the best, and for his own sanity I wouldn't be surprised. But also he wants to bring Haleigh home so maybe he will continue. I just hate it when good people do the best they can, and people trash them, so wrong.

No Rose, I totally agree with you concerning Tim. He is a good man, he is desperately trying to find Haleigh. He is doing the best he can. I hope he has the strength to continue trying to find her.

I was feeling the same way the other day when so many people were attacking the victim in the road rage incident without any evidence that she was anything but an innocent victim in this case!

We stand for victims and their rights on this forum. That was not what I sensed in regard to that woman. I surely would hate to be an innocent person who got included in a case like this by circumstance. I would hate (even though I have nothing to hide) having my life and reputation exposed for all to see and try to tear apart on speculation on the Internet and in the "press."

Just wanted to get that off my chest.

Hello monkeys!






Yes, and I have no idea if the encounter was real or this was somekind of scam, but road rage should be taken very seriously, I'm just glad nobody was injured, going at those speeds, anything could have happened.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blonde on October 10, 2009, 03:07:26 PM
Afternoon Monkeys!  Is it all possible that in the time it took for RC to marry MC that LE had formed a theroy that MC knew more than she was telling or maybe responsible for HaLeigh's disapperance?  Maybe LE shared this with Ron and immediate family and to keep her from running off again he married her?  Marrying her hasn't worked so now he's come up with the idea to turn her loose to see if she will do something to indicate her guilt.  Geez, I wish something would work!  I think all the BS Ron and Mama have been feeding us is just to pacify Misty in her little pea brain.  I just can't for the life of me see anyone putting a ring on the finger of a little slore babysitting my child and loosing her!  It doesn't add up, any of it.  I would do anything and I mean ANYTHING to find my baby.  Yes, even bedding the enemy if it meant finding the truth.  I hate to say it.  No nanners please.  You know what would really be sad...what if she was really passed out (been there in my younger days and slept through the worst FL hurricane) and her brother new this and took her after all?  I hope they haven't dismissed him completely! 

Florida: If an individual is under 18 years of age, but older than 16 years of age, a marriage license can be obtained with parental consent. If a minor's parents are both deceased and there is not an appointed guardian, he/she may apply for a marriage license. A minor who has been previously married may also apply for a license. A minor who swears that they have a child or are expecting a baby, can apply for a license if the pregnancy has been verified by a written statement from a licensed physician.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 03:09:30 PM
I think Misty is going to get her wish!! ::MonkeyHaHa::
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- She is the 17-year-old who hasn't had a lot to say about Haleigh Cummings disappearance until today.

"Thank you to everyone who's tried to help us," said Misty Croslin. Croslin is the girlfriend of Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings. She is also the last person to see Haleigh.

Croslin talked about how tired she was the night Haleigh disappeared. "I was over-exhausted. I was real tired. I had a long weekend," she said.

Croslin and Ronald Cummings reported Haleigh missing around 3:30 a.m. last Tuesday. The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.

Some are questioning whether or not Croslin was home the evening Haleigh disappeared. In response to those who question her, Croslin said, "They're lying...Wish they could come to me and tell me I wasn't home that night."

http://www.fox30online.com/ conte...fPGkzJ4_pg.cspx

She said this I think back in March....

On HaLeigh's sixth birthday

Investigators Narrow Focus In Haleigh Search

Haleigh's Birthday Marked With Balloon Release

POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT August 16, 2009
UPDATED: 10:46 am EDT August 18, 2009

SATSUMA, Fla. -- Investigators in Putnam County marked the sixth birthday of Haleigh Cummings with a news release stating they believe the missing girl was likely kidnapped by someone she knew.

Putnam County Sheriff's Office Lt. Johnny Greenwood said evidence and the work of investigators have minimized the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger.

Greenwood said the missing girl's biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects in the case, but Cummings' current wife, Misty Croslin-Cummings, has not been cleared.

"Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case," the news release stated. "She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh's disappearance."

Greenwood said physical evidence found at the Cummings' home contradicted Croslin-Cummings' account of her evening activities. Authorities asked anyone with direct knowledge of her activities around the time of Haleigh's disappearance to contact the Putnam County Sheriff's Office at 386-329-0800.
http://www.wesh.com/news/20422695/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 10, 2009, 03:12:23 PM
Brandi, I agree with what you said about the road rage woman and her not being crusfied if she is totally innocent and just happened upon the 2 out of bad luck and nothing else. But I just dont think thats the case, her face was plasted all over the internet even before this all happened, but she reffused to have her face shown on TV or anywhere else, and she is connected to Steph Watts, and so what is the chance of that? And we still dont have anyones word about what happened on that day but hers, we still havent heard from the Donna woman and the only thing we hear was Misty saying "that womans crazy" we didnt do that, but we know how Misty is with the truth, Still I say something is up with this woman other then ...just happened upon them..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 03:14:05 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
My apologies, Strayze. I misspoke and did not express myself well. I'm truly sorry. -Sailcat

Sailcat.. am thinking that many heard what you were trying to say.  I do believe that some alcoholics and addicts, *in their moments of clarity*, do love their children and want to think that they are taking care of them.  Perhaps it's wishful thinking.  And yet, it's often not the reality.  Am thinking that those moments of clarity don't happen often enough, nor do they typically last very long.  Sigh. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 10, 2009, 03:17:05 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
My apologies, Strayze. I misspoke and did not express myself well. I'm truly sorry. -Sailcat

Sailcat.. am thinking that many heard what you were trying to say.  I do believe that some alcoholics and addicts, *in their moments of clarity*, do love their children and want to think that they are taking care of them.  Perhaps it's wishful thinking.  And yet, it's often not the reality.  Am thinking that those moments of clarity don't happen often enough, nor do they typically last very long.  Sigh. 


Wyks,ITA.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 03:22:20 PM
http://radionewz.net/        Gunny has put his two cents in about the latest happenings  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyRoll::

Thanks NoRose! 

I love this line from the article....

"I might just be a crime fighting dog, but Are You Kidding Me?" 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://radionewz.net/?p=2544&cpage=1#comment-778


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 03:22:59 PM
Brandi, I agree with what you said about the road rage woman and her not being crusfied if she is totally innocent and just happened upon the 2 out of bad luck and nothing else. But I just dont think thats the case, her face was plasted all over the internet even before this all happened, but she reffused to have her face shown on TV or anywhere else, and she is connected to Steph Watts, and so what is the chance of that? And we still dont have anyones word about what happened on that day but hers, we still havent heard from the Donna woman and the only thing we hear was Misty saying "that womans crazy" we didnt do that, but we know how Misty is with the truth, Still I say something is up with this woman other then ...just happened upon them..

Now a days, it is normal for 25 year-olds to have a picture of themselves on the Internet. The pictures we saw of her were for legitimate, upstanding reasons. She is a young woman and interested in meeting people with similar interests. This is normal. I would not say here picture was "plastered" anywhere.

I would not want MY picture in the press and on TV in this case. Would you?

I just feel that without any evidence that she is anything but an innocent victim in this case, she should not be "crucified" as you put it.

We all have the right to believe her story or not. But without any evidence that says she is lying, I feel she should be left alone and not looked at as some evil person with an interest in this case.

JMO.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: melisb on October 10, 2009, 03:25:47 PM
Afternoon Monkeys!  Is it all possible that in the time it took for RC to marry MC that LE had formed a theroy that MC knew more than she was telling or maybe responsible for HaLeigh's disapperance?  Maybe LE shared this with Ron and immediate family and to keep her from running off again he married her?  Marrying her hasn't worked so now he's come up with the idea to turn her loose to see if she will do something to indicate her guilt.  Geez, I wish something would work!  I think all the BS Ron and Mama have been feeding us is just to pacify Misty in her little pea brain.  I just can't for the life of me see anyone putting a ring on the finger of a little slore babysitting my child and loosing her!  It doesn't add up, any of it.  I would do anything and I mean ANYTHING to find my baby.  Yes, even bedding the enemy if it meant finding the truth.  I hate to say it.  No nanners please.  You know what would really be sad...what if she was really passed out (been there in my younger days and slept through the worst FL hurricane) and her brother new this and took her after all?  I hope they haven't dismissed him completely! 

Florida: If an individual is under 18 years of age, but older than 16 years of age, a marriage license can be obtained with parental consent. If a minor's parents are both deceased and there is not an appointed guardian, he/she may apply for a marriage license. A minor who has been previously married may also apply for a license. A minor who swears that they have a child or are expecting a baby, can apply for a license if the pregnancy has been verified by a written statement from a licensed physician.


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What?  I understand all that I live in FL but does it have something to do with my post?  Help!  Splain please.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: melisb on October 10, 2009, 03:33:43 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
My apologies, Strayze. I misspoke and did not express myself well. I'm truly sorry. -Sailcat

Sailcat.. am thinking that many heard what you were trying to say.  I do believe that some alcoholics and addicts, *in their moments of clarity*, do love their children and want to think that they are taking care of them.  Perhaps it's wishful thinking.  And yet, it's often not the reality.  Am thinking that those moments of clarity don't happen often enough, nor do they typically last very long.  Sigh. 


Wyks,ITA.

We call 'em functioning addicts.  I feel for anyone struggling with the disease of addiction.  I don't feel for those who think it's a fun way to live (RC, MC) and care less about consequences on family.  Most addicts will tell you they want to change but not the ones we are dealing with here!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 03:42:52 PM
http://radionewz.net/        Gunny has put his two cents in about the latest happenings  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyRoll::

Thanks NoRose! 

I love this line from the article....

"I might just be a crime fighting dog, but Are You Kidding Me?" 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://radionewz.net/?p=2544&cpage=1#comment-778

I love those articles from Gunny, what a hoot  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 10, 2009, 03:44:23 PM
Brandi, I agree with what you said about the road rage woman and her not being crusfied if she is totally innocent and just happened upon the 2 out of bad luck and nothing else. But I just dont think thats the case, her face was plasted all over the internet even before this all happened, but she reffused to have her face shown on TV or anywhere else, and she is connected to Steph Watts, and so what is the chance of that? And we still dont have anyones word about what happened on that day but hers, we still havent heard from the Donna woman and the only thing we hear was Misty saying "that womans crazy" we didnt do that, but we know how Misty is with the truth, Still I say something is up with this woman other then ...just happened upon them..

Now a days, it is normal for 25 year-olds to have a picture of themselves on the Internet. The pictures we saw of her were for legitimate, upstanding reasons. She is a young woman and interested in meeting people with similar interests. This is normal. I would not say here picture was "plastered" anywhere.

I would not want MY picture in the press and on TV in this case. Would you?

I just feel that without any evidence that she is anything but an innocent victim in this case, she should not be "crucified" as you put it.

We all have the right to believe her story or not. But without any evidence that says she is lying, I feel she should be left alone and not looked at as some evil person with an interest in this case.

JMO.


First of all, I wasnt looking at her as and "evil" person, not in any way, you have misunderstood what I am trying to say, if she was connected to someone in this case then I believe what she was tying to do was get Misty caught doing something that LE could arrest her for and therefore had that happened we would be giving her a big high-5....Im not saying anything "bad" about her at all.................having said that, I will not mention her again....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 03:46:02 PM
The easiest way to get the little beast to talk is to tick her off.  She is under the impressive or hopeful they will get back together.  A photo of Ron with a cute girl or Misty sees Ron with another female, Misty will tell all, simple. A girl could just ask
him for directions and snap a photo and show Misty, is looking for another "step mom".

I think the best way to get her to talk is to instill fear in her. Fear for herself.

I think that is the only way to reach her.

JMO.

Brandi,

Fear is good, Jealousy,may work, too, she wanted her man so badly, and to think someone else would be Step-Mom, when she claims to wuv the kids, jealousy may also push her over the top, (IF his family was involved) MC would have no problem telling all she knows. Fear and jealous are powerful emotions.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 03:49:11 PM
Brandi, I agree with what you said about the road rage woman and her not being crusfied if she is totally innocent and just happened upon the 2 out of bad luck and nothing else. But I just dont think thats the case, her face was plasted all over the internet even before this all happened, but she reffused to have her face shown on TV or anywhere else, and she is connected to Steph Watts, and so what is the chance of that? And we still dont have anyones word about what happened on that day but hers, we still havent heard from the Donna woman and the only thing we hear was Misty saying "that womans crazy" we didnt do that, but we know how Misty is with the truth, Still I say something is up with this woman other then ...just happened upon them..

Now a days, it is normal for 25 year-olds to have a picture of themselves on the Internet. The pictures we saw of her were for legitimate, upstanding reasons. She is a young woman and interested in meeting people with similar interests. This is normal. I would not say here picture was "plastered" anywhere.

I would not want MY picture in the press and on TV in this case. Would you?

I just feel that without any evidence that she is anything but an innocent victim in this case, she should not be "crucified" as you put it.

We all have the right to believe her story or not. But without any evidence that says she is lying, I feel she should be left alone and not looked at as some evil person with an interest in this case.

JMO.


First of all, I wasnt looking at her as and "evil" person, not in any way, you have misunderstood what I am trying to say, if she was connected to someone in this case then I believe what she was tying to do was get Misty caught doing something that LE could arrest her for and therefore had that happened we would be giving her a big high-5....Im not saying anything "bad" about her at all.................having said that, I will not mention her again....

I was not directing this post to anyone in particular.

Just in theory.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 10, 2009, 03:51:07 PM
The easiest way to get the little beast to talk is to tick her off.  She is under the impressive or hopeful they will get back together.  A photo of Ron with a cute girl or Misty sees Ron with another female, Misty will tell all, simple. A girl could just ask
him for directions and snap a photo and show Misty, is looking for another "step mom".

I think the best way to get her to talk is to instill fear in her. Fear for herself.

I think that is the only way to reach her.

JMO.

Brandi,

Fear is good, Jealousy,may work, too, she wanted her man so badly, and to think someone else would be Step-Mom, when she claims to wuv the kids, jealousy may also push her over the top, (IF his family was involved) MC would have no problem telling all she knows. Fear and jealous are powerful emotions.
If I was Ron I would be careful, nothing quite like a woman/girl scorned  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 10, 2009, 04:02:51 PM
Misty acts like someone that has a split personality....she looks and talks different...soft voice, acting like a little girl , then we see her speaking out cocky looking older....wth is going on with her?
Perhaps Misty suffers from dissociative disorder, an uncommon condition under the broad heading of anxiety disorders.  It can be frightening to be afflicted with dissociation.  Some victims do not remember previous states of mind (the "other" personality), and are perplexed when realize they are dressing like the "other" personality.  It sounds a bit spooky, and it's not all that common, but really, most people dissociate in minor ways, but there are no eye-opening events as is minor.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 10, 2009, 04:09:28 PM
The easiest way to get the little beast to talk is to tick her off.  She is under the impressive or hopeful they will get back together.  A photo of Ron with a cute girl or Misty sees Ron with another female, Misty will tell all, simple. A girl could just ask
him for directions and snap a photo and show Misty, is looking for another "step mom".

I think the best way to get her to talk is to instill fear in her. Fear for herself.

I think that is the only way to reach her.

JMO.
I agree, Brandi. I think she is afraid but her well honed survival skills are covering that fear. The person to get through to her,IMO, will be the person who can show her that her fate will be much better if she tells what she knows than if she keeps her silence. I think LE is close to a break in this case and she can feel the dogs nipping at her heels. I hope someone does not step in to rescue her. This needs to stop and Haleigh needs to be found.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 10, 2009, 04:14:07 PM
last three:  as it's minor dissociation.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on October 10, 2009, 04:18:59 PM
Misty acts like someone that has a split personality....she looks and talks different...soft voice, acting like a little girl , then we see her speaking out cocky looking older....wth is going on with her?
Perhaps Misty suffers from dissociative disorder, an uncommon condition under the broad heading of anxiety disorders.  It can be frightening to be afflicted with dissociation.  Some victims do not remember previous states of mind (the "other" personality), and are perplexed when realize they are dressing like the "other" personality.  It sounds a bit spooky, and it's not all that common, but really, most people dissociate in minor ways, but there are no eye-opening events as is minor.

No disrespect intended to MyMonkey or Strayze, but I think Misty suffers from Drugged Out Juvenile Delinquent Disorder.  I think she's every bit as masterful at manipulation as Casey Anthony.  This little broad has participated in stuff that some of us never even heard of until we were twice her age. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 04:29:24 PM
@LindyLooWho2 They look at the blogs and websites. These two get a kick out of what's being said. Misty told me that 2 weeks ago.   1:05 PM Oct 9th from web in reply to LindyLooWho2

http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 10, 2009, 04:30:54 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
My apologies, Strayze. I misspoke and did not express myself well. I'm truly sorry. -Sailcat
It depends upon what one's line of work is, or in the alternative, one's experiences when expressing our concerns about addicts.  In my line of work, an addict is by definition self-cenbtered.  The degree of self-centeredness can vary I suppose.  The addict is entrapped in a hopeless struggle.  It takes some kind of help to become unaddicted.  It cannot be done alone.  One cannot simply think one's way back to the sober life.  I've seen marvelous recoveries where the former addict emerges the produtive empathetic human being that God intended.



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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 10, 2009, 04:36:27 PM
Sorry about typos.  For anything longer than a few lines (quotes included), I'm forced to type blind.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 04:37:21 PM
http://radionewz.net/        Gunny has put his two cents in about the latest happenings  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyRoll::

Thanks NoRose! 

I love this line from the article....

"I might just be a crime fighting dog, but Are You Kidding Me?" 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://radionewz.net/?p=2544&cpage=1#comment-778

I love those articles from Gunny, what a hoot  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: theboyzmom on October 10, 2009, 04:51:25 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
My apologies, Strayze. I misspoke and did not express myself well. I'm truly sorry. -Sailcat
It depends upon what one's line of work is, or in the alternative, one's experiences when expressing our concerns about addicts.  In my line of work, an addict is by definition self-cenbtered.  The degree of self-centeredness can vary I suppose.  The addict is entrapped in a hopeless struggle.  It takes some kind of help to become unaddicted.  It cannot be done alone.  One cannot simply think one's way back to the sober life.  I've seen marvelous recoveries where the former addict emerges the produtive empathetic human being that God intended.



.


Well, from where I sit (which is often around the "tables") we are self centered. But we also love our kids. When I was actively drinking, I really really wanted to take care of my kids - unfortunately sometimes I got in the way. I know nothing of drug addicts since I am not one. But as a recovered alcoholic, I know that we do get lost in our selves. We do hurt our family. We do not want to change until very late in the game, however. We do not know what we do is wrong. We really THINK we are functioning. We THINK we are taking care of our families. Not until we reach a turning point within ourselves (not from emotional appeals from our family or from a judge) do we change and see the falsity of our lives. Then we do need help from something bigger than ourselves. In my book, it is not an addiction counselor or a treatment center - by definition we are beyond human aid. We have to be ready to give up our will - which is not an easy thing.

I do not see Misty or Ron or any of the other players in this case ready to do that. All I see are spoiled little kids that expect Mommy and the world to fix what they screw up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Puzzler on October 10, 2009, 05:14:51 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

About Misty's comment that she and Cummings might get back together when this is all over.
Remembering Cummings' comment to keep your enemies closer.

Perhaps, Ron wants to divorce Misty, but doesn't want to totally alienate her...so', he's convinced Misty that they might get back together (because he knows she doesn't want the divorce)...just too hard now with all the people against us and my daughter missing..can't take it...but when this is all over, we might just get back together.

That would be a slick trick on Ron's part, but I can see him pulling that off.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 10, 2009, 05:16:17 PM
Sorry about typos.  For anything longer than a few lines (quotes included), I'm forced to type blind.

O/T but a Monkey helped me with this the other day as I had the same problem. Look up to your browser bar and left click on Page. Go down to Compatability View Settings. Click on View all websites in Compatability View. This saved my sanity as I had the same problem after switching to IE 8.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 10, 2009, 05:17:50 PM
The incident report filed by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office lists the alleged victim of the "road rage" clash as Courtney Ballinger, 25. The report says her address is in Massachusetts.

The zip code for her address is Madison, Miss.

The area code for her two phones is Orlando.

Ballinger has been identified on a Facebook page as being as friend, or acquaintance, of "Steph," a man who runs a chat site devoted to HaLeigh Cummings and her disappearance.

That has led some on-line speculators to wonder out loud if the alleged encounter on the interstate was accidental.

http://staugustine.com/stories/101009/news_2072176.shtml

heart is this the same steph
http://www.stephwattsreporter.com/

he has a story listed here too, 2/3 down pg about Haleigh
http://texasequusearch.org/

and thanks for all your updates


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: klaasend on October 10, 2009, 05:29:42 PM
Sorry about typos.  For anything longer than a few lines (quotes included), I'm forced to type blind.

O/T but a Monkey helped me with this the other day as I had the same problem. Look up to your browser bar and left click on Page. Go down to Compatability View Settings. Click on View all websites in Compatability View. This saved my sanity as I had the same problem after switching to IE 8.

O/T - I have tried again to use IE8 with the compatability view checked and IE8 is just way too slow for me.  Not to mention the Flash10 errors I kept getting that would close down IE8.  I've finally decided to get used to Firefox.  I've had zero errors and it is much faster than IE8.

End of public service announcement  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 05:32:36 PM
Sorry about typos.  For anything longer than a few lines (quotes included), I'm forced to type blind.

O/T but a Monkey helped me with this the other day as I had the same problem. Look up to your browser bar and left click on Page. Go down to Compatability View Settings. Click on View all websites in Compatability View. This saved my sanity as I had the same problem after switching to IE 8.

O/T - I have tried again to use IE8 with the compatability view checked and IE8 is just way too slow for me.  Not to mention the Flash10 errors I kept getting that would close down IE8.  I've finally decided to get used to Firefox.  I've had zero errors and it is much faster than IE8.

End of public service announcement  ::MonkeyCool::

And an excellent PSA at that!

From a longtime Firefox fan.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 10, 2009, 05:33:02 PM
Sorry about typos.  For anything longer than a few lines (quotes included), I'm forced to type blind.

O/T but a Monkey helped me with this the other day as I had the same problem. Look up to your browser bar and left click on Page. Go down to Compatability View Settings. Click on View all websites in Compatability View. This saved my sanity as I had the same problem after switching to IE 8.

O/T - I have tried again to use IE8 with the compatability view checked and IE8 is just way too slow for me.  Not to mention the Flash10 errors I kept getting that would close down IE8.  I've finally decided to get used to Firefox.  I've had zero errors and it is much faster than IE8.

End of public service announcement  ::MonkeyCool::
there was suppose to be a long....bbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeppppppppp....at the end.... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 05:33:41 PM
I have a question to ask, and maybe someone can tell me. I know that Twitter is a new way to communicate ideas. I admit to being Twitter ignorant, so bear with me.

Ever since I have been on SM we have all brought over blogs, and other things we have found on the web, usuallly with a link. Sometimes we have even brought over a comment or two from a blog or a story. But it seems to me that twitter comments are mostly gossip, or statements made by anon people that show no proof at all there is any truth in what they are saying. So why is it now, for the past several months, a lot of what we are discussing is something brought over from Twitter that is not necessarily known to be the truth. Sometimes there is one by the author of the blog, but many times it is just anonymous posters. It sound like a gossip party line to me.

Sometimes, two different Twitters sites say two totally opposite things. Like last night one said Crystal had been stopped, and one said she had not. I think this whole twitter business is causing a lot of gossip and confusion going on, instead of working with actual links.

Please,  someone show me where I am wrong about this. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 10, 2009, 05:34:22 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

About Misty's comment that she and Cummings might get back together when this is all over.
Remembering Cummings' comment to keep your enemies closer.

Perhaps, Ron wants to divorce Misty, but doesn't want to totally alienate her...so', he's convinced Misty that they might get back together (because he knows she doesn't want the divorce)...just too hard now with all the people against us and my daughter missing..can't take it...but when this is all over, we might just get back together.

That would be a slick trick on Ron's part, but I can see him pulling that off.



just seems separation, and counseling, would be the way to go, then see
but he77 if you rush into marriage, i guess you could rush to divorce too


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 05:39:12 PM
I have a question to ask, and maybe someone can tell me. I know that Twitter is a new way to communicate ideas. I admit to being Twitter ignorant, so bear with me.

Ever since I have been on SM we have all brought over blogs, and other things we have found on the web, usuallly with a link. Sometimes we have even brought over a comment or two from a blog or a story. But it seems to me that twitter comments are mostly gossip, or statements made by anon people that show no proof at all there is any truth in what they are saying. So why is it now, for the past several months, a lot of what we are discussing is something brought over from Twitter that is not necessarily known to be the truth. Sometimes there is one by the author of the blog, but many times it is just anonymous posters. It sound like a gossip party line to me.

Sometimes, two different Twitters sites say two totally opposite things. Like last night one said Crystal had been stopped, and one said she had not. I think this whole twitter business is causing a lot of gossip and confusion going on, instead of working with actual links.

Please,  someone show me where I am wrong about this. 

Many individuals and many news agencies and TV shows, etc. have twitter accounts and send out messages known as tweets.

And most of what is posted there are tweets (messages) from individual posters just like you or me.

I always take what these people say with a grain of salt, as I don't know who many of them are. And you are right, many of them just post opinions, not facts.

But sometimes, they post a link to a news source that is legitimate.

Twitter is a tool, it just depends on how you use it as to what you get out of it.

JMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blonde on October 10, 2009, 06:18:37 PM
Sorry about typos.  For anything longer than a few lines (quotes included), I'm forced to type blind.

O/T but a Monkey helped me with this the other day as I had the same problem. Look up to your browser bar and left click on Page. Go down to Compatability View Settings. Click on View all websites in Compatability View. This saved my sanity as I had the same problem after switching to IE 8.

O/T - I have tried again to use IE8 with the compatability view checked and IE8 is just way too slow for me.  Not to mention the Flash10 errors I kept getting that would close down IE8.  I've finally decided to get used to Firefox.  I've had zero errors and it is much faster than IE8.

End of public service announcement  ::MonkeyCool::

O/T Opera is good also no pop ups


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 06:20:53 PM
I have a question to ask, and maybe someone can tell me. I know that Twitter is a new way to communicate ideas. I admit to being Twitter ignorant, so bear with me.

Ever since I have been on SM we have all brought over blogs, and other things we have found on the web, usuallly with a link. Sometimes we have even brought over a comment or two from a blog or a story. But it seems to me that twitter comments are mostly gossip, or statements made by anon people that show no proof at all there is any truth in what they are saying. So why is it now, for the past several months, a lot of what we are discussing is something brought over from Twitter that is not necessarily known to be the truth. Sometimes there is one by the author of the blog, but many times it is just anonymous posters. It sound like a gossip party line to me.

Sometimes, two different Twitters sites say two totally opposite things. Like last night one said Crystal had been stopped, and one said she had not. I think this whole twitter business is causing a lot of gossip and confusion going on, instead of working with actual links.

Please,  someone show me where I am wrong about this. 

Many individuals and many news agencies and TV shows, etc. have twitter accounts and send out messages known as tweets.

And most of what is posted there are tweets (messages) from individual posters just like you or me.

I always take what these people say with a grain of salt, as I don't know who many of them are. And you are right, many of them just post opinions, not facts.

But sometimes, they post a link to a news source that is legitimate.

Twitter is a tool, it just depends on how you use it as to what you get out of it.

JMO.

Thanks Brandi. I know all that, there is some posts that are legitimate. But a lot of them sound like unverified gossip that only confuses things, and it seems like some Monkeys take them as Gospel.
It takes a lot of effort to clean the wheat from the chaff. I am just used to using sites that are links and are published.

I have to confess I am not totally twitter illerate. I have leaned a lot since last Friday, and have learned to follow certain twitters along and I read them. But I would never post one here as I can't prove it as fact no more that I would post a comment from Internet Forums Wars.  I have seen a change in SM since twitter has come along. That's just the way I feel.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: k8 on October 10, 2009, 06:25:57 PM
Hi again, Monkeys,

LE stated he has "physical evidence", MC wasn't home, curious, is there photos or video of the Me'nage a' Trois?

Physical evidence?  could mean DNA, (or photos or video). Geraldo's show, a few weeks back, an Attorney on the guest panel,
insisted that they must have "something", GR didn't allow the guest to finish his sentence.  I wonder if that "something" is physical
proof of the Threesome House?  With all the cellphones/ Picture Phones, the Thugs have I would not doubt they take  photos for blackmail?  IMO 


This could also be a receipt of some kind also.  Also wonder if she had a food stamp card and bought some munchies for the party.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 10, 2009, 06:33:17 PM
Hi again, Monkeys,

LE stated he has "physical evidence", MC wasn't home, curious, is there photos or video of the Me'nage a' Trois?

Physical evidence?  could mean DNA, (or photos or video). Geraldo's show, a few weeks back, an Attorney on the guest panel,
insisted that they must have "something", GR didn't allow the guest to finish his sentence.  I wonder if that "something" is physical
proof of the Threesome House?  With all the cellphones/ Picture Phones, the Thugs have I would not doubt they take  photos for blackmail?  IMO 


This could also be a receipt of some kind also.  Also wonder if she had a food stamp card and bought some munchies for the party.

good idea
not to sure about the putnam LE, i think it was posted , this LE is slow with
the info


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: k8 on October 10, 2009, 06:36:54 PM
Hi again, Monkeys,

LE stated he has "physical evidence", MC wasn't home, curious, is there photos or video of the Me'nage a' Trois?

Physical evidence?  could mean DNA, (or photos or video). Geraldo's show, a few weeks back, an Attorney on the guest panel,
insisted that they must have "something", GR didn't allow the guest to finish his sentence.  I wonder if that "something" is physical
proof of the Threesome House?  With all the cellphones/ Picture Phones, the Thugs have I would not doubt they take  photos for blackmail?  IMO 


This could also be a receipt of some kind also.  Also wonder if she had a food stamp card and bought some munchies for the party.

good idea
not to sure about the putnam LE, i think it was posted , this LE is slow with
the info

She could have very easily been on some stores surveillance tape.  Gas station/carryout store. Most stores have them now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Idgie on October 10, 2009, 06:43:27 PM
Sorry about typos.  For anything longer than a few lines (quotes included), I'm forced to type blind.

O/T but a Monkey helped me with this the other day as I had the same problem. Look up to your browser bar and left click on Page. Go down to Compatability View Settings. Click on View all websites in Compatability View. This saved my sanity as I had the same problem after switching to IE 8.

O/T - I have tried again to use IE8 with the compatability view checked and IE8 is just way too slow for me.  Not to mention the Flash10 errors I kept getting that would close down IE8.  I've finally decided to get used to Firefox.  I've had zero errors and it is much faster than IE8.

End of public service announcement  ::MonkeyCool::
there was suppose to be a long....bbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeppppppppp....at the end.... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

In fine print disclaimer Firefox does  NOT run well on Vista 64bit system.

Edit:  Correction by Idgie.  MB


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 10, 2009, 06:48:45 PM
Hi again, Monkeys,

LE stated he has "physical evidence", MC wasn't home, curious, is there photos or video of the Me'nage a' Trois?

Physical evidence?  could mean DNA, (or photos or video). Geraldo's show, a few weeks back, an Attorney on the guest panel,
insisted that they must have "something", GR didn't allow the guest to finish his sentence.  I wonder if that "something" is physical
proof of the Threesome House?  With all the cellphones/ Picture Phones, the Thugs have I would not doubt they take  photos for blackmail?  IMO 


This could also be a receipt of some kind also.  Also wonder if she had a food stamp card and bought some munchies for the party.

good idea
not to sure about the putnam LE, i think it was posted , this LE is slow with
the info

She could have very easily been on some stores surveillance tape.  Gas station/carryout store. Most stores have them now.

yes and LE should have been able to do this for RC, the nite Haleigh went missing
makes you wonder if putnam LE is up to the task
see this post
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6184.msg966265#msg966265


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 06:49:07 PM
Since it is slow and I am feeling cranky with a sore throat I am going to say one thing about Tim Miller and Tes.  I said I could not fathom Tim associating himself with Donna and the antics that have gone one with Misty. His heart may have been in the right place, but he really used bad judment, in my view, to put his trust in Donna getting Misty softened up. I have seen her MySpaces, and the posting search pictures and upclose pictures with herself and other TES members while on a search is deplorable to me, and I can see no way  that this is ok. If Tim did or didn't know she did this, he should have.

I have donated several times to TES with no stipulation where the money would be spent. I left it up to Tim's descretion to use it in any way he saw fit to find a child. But never in my wildest dreams did I think he would dole out money in $300 increments to get Misty's nails done, or take her on a trip to Universal, Dayton, and New York. She's a tough little nut to crack, and all she will do is use him for her purposes, and most probably leave him high and dry as far as info.

I so hope I am wrong about this. I have just been trying to digest this news about Tim. To say I am stunned would be an understatement. All I can say is at least he was trying when it seems no one else is.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know my post about how I feel about Tim will not be popular. But that is not why I posted it. I just felt like it was something I needed to say.  ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 10, 2009, 06:49:25 PM
I have a question please. Is it true that misty bought a ticket to canada and her lawyer quit. I am just now getting on my computer I was reading that she bought a ticket. Does anyone know if that is true?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Idgie on October 10, 2009, 06:49:26 PM
Meant to say does NOT run well with Vista 64 bit.


I edited your post to reflect that.  MB


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 06:50:39 PM
It is the Networks ( the ones who pandered to FAB, bride of FAB and Mother of the FAB ) who deserve the criticism.


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  LOL!  FAB is the perfect name, Thanks Tim!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 10, 2009, 06:59:37 PM
Can anyone see me in here


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 07:01:02 PM
Can anyone see me in here

I see you. I was beginning to think I was talking to myself too.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 07:01:07 PM
I have a question please. Is it true that misty bought a ticket to canada and her lawyer quit. I am just now getting on my computer I was reading that she bought a ticket. Does anyone know if that is true?

HI Luvmyboys,

Misty would need a passport IF she bought a ticket to Canada, I would discount that rumor, she doesn't like country living.
Her Lawyer, supposely, quit because she disobeyed him and she apparently lied about going to NYC. He may not trust his client, her and scrapped up knees. IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 07:01:59 PM
Since it is slow and I am feeling cranky with a sore throat I am going to say one thing about Tim Miller and Tes.  I said I could not fathom Tim associating himself with Donna and the antics that have gone one with Misty. His heart may have been in the right place, but he really used bad judment, in my view, to put his trust in Donna getting Misty softened up. I have seen her MySpaces, and the posting search pictures and upclose pictures with herself and other TES members while on a search is deplorable to me, and I can see no way  that this is ok. If Tim did or didn't know she did this, he should have.

I have donated several times to TES with no stipulation where the money would be spent. I left it up to Tim's descretion to use it in any way he saw fit to find a child. But never in my wildest dreams did I think he would dole out money in $300 increments to get Misty's nails done, or take her on a trip to Universal, Dayton, and New York. She's a tough little nut to crack, and all she will do is use him for her purposes, and most probably leave him high and dry as far as info.

I so hope I am wrong about this. I have just been trying to digest this news about Tim. To say I am stunned would be an understatement. All I can say is at least he was trying when it seems no one else is.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know my post about how I feel about Tim will not be popular. But that is not why I posted it. I just felt like it was something I needed to say.  ::MonkeyAngel::



I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 07:02:16 PM
Can anyone see me in here

I see you. I was beginning to think I was talking to myself too.  ::MonkeyJnBox::

I don't see you avi though. Is that what you were asking?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 07:04:19 PM
I have a question please. Is it true that misty bought a ticket to canada and her lawyer quit. I am just now getting on my computer I was reading that she bought a ticket. Does anyone know if that is true?

Robert Fields, Misty's lawyer did quit.

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/101009/news_2072176.shtml

I have seen nor heard nothing until your post about Misty buying a ticket to Canada.

Do you have a link for this?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 10, 2009, 07:06:15 PM
I have a question please. Is it true that misty bought a ticket to canada and her lawyer quit. I am just now getting on my computer I was reading that she bought a ticket. Does anyone know if that is true?
Yes, find out. There are three monkeys from Canada here. We'll met her at the airport.
lol
Misty would need a passport to get in, do you think she has one ?  You have to show the passport when you buy the ticket.
Her lawyer did release her as a client or whatever term they use. This was after he told her to do the show, she said she wouldn't and she did.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 07:08:50 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

About Misty's comment that she and Cummings might get back together when this is all over.
Remembering Cummings' comment to keep your enemies closer.

Perhaps, Ron wants to divorce Misty, but doesn't want to totally alienate her...so', he's convinced Misty that they might get back together (because he knows she doesn't want the divorce)...just too hard now with all the people against us and my daughter missing..can't take it...but when this is all over, we might just get back together.

That would be a slick trick on Ron's part, but I can see him pulling that off.



Pluzzler,

Misty chick is bad news, she just is and his family had enough of her. FAB mother said to divorce her, because, of the black cloud MC family brings.  FAM is keeping MC mouth shut by keeping her in limbo, "they might get back together" anyone knows or dated a guy, means fat chance of ever getting back together.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 10, 2009, 07:11:01 PM
Since it is slow and I am feeling cranky with a sore throat I am going to say one thing about Tim Miller and Tes.  I said I could not fathom Tim associating himself with Donna and the antics that have gone one with Misty. His heart may have been in the right place, but he really used bad judment, in my view, to put his trust in Donna getting Misty softened up. I have seen her MySpaces, and the posting search pictures and upclose pictures with herself and other TES members while on a search is deplorable to me, and I can see no way  that this is ok. If Tim did or didn't know she did this, he should have.

I have donated several times to TES with no stipulation where the money would be spent. I left it up to Tim's descretion to use it in any way he saw fit to find a child. But never in my wildest dreams did I think he would dole out money in $300 increments to get Misty's nails done, or take her on a trip to Universal, Dayton, and New York. She's a tough little nut to crack, and all she will do is use him for her purposes, and most probably leave him high and dry as far as info.

I so hope I am wrong about this. I have just been trying to digest this news about Tim. To say I am stunned would be an understatement. All I can say is at least he was trying when it seems no one else is.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know my post about how I feel about Tim will not be popular. But that is not why I posted it. I just felt like it was something I needed to say.  ::MonkeyAngel::



I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

i think his actions shows his frustration level with the whole thing,
seems it would be an easy thing to find a missing 5 yr old, so soon
into the case with experienced people, yet that didnt happen,
and he is just trying desperately, to find or make a break in the case.
kinda like the tv cop shows, good cop bad cop scenario


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 07:12:25 PM


I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

Thanks Brandi. I know there must be others that feel the same way and I know there are some that feel Tim can do no wrong. I don't even like feeling the way I do.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We all want to find Haleigh, no matter our viewpoints. Everyday we get up thinking this might be the day to find her. It is that way on several threads. Sometimes it is very disheartening and depressing. But then again, maybe tomorrow will be the day.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: twocents on October 10, 2009, 07:13:28 PM
Fanny - I hope you feel better soon.   As far as your feelings for TM and DB. They are your feelings and you should voice them if it bothers you. This is why this board is so great. Trust me you are not alone in feeling this way. TM is a great man and does wonderful things for families. I however do believe this was not the best choice that he made.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 10, 2009, 07:14:57 PM
Thanks to u all that answered me. I was wondering what was going on


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 07:17:08 PM
I have a question please. Is it true that misty bought a ticket to canada and her lawyer quit. I am just now getting on my computer I was reading that she bought a ticket. Does anyone know if that is true?
Yes, find out. There are three monkeys from Canada here. We'll met her at the airport.
lol
Misty would need a passport to get in, do you think she has one ?  You have to show the passport when you buy the ticket.
Her lawyer did release her as a client or whatever term they use. This was after he told her to do the show, she said she wouldn't and she did.

Another reason why I hope that someone has their hands on Misty. I know LP was rumored to have made that offer to her before. I wonder if she is going to go see how much money she can suck out of him.  It takes a while to get a passport. She would have had to have this plan in the works for a long time. She acts like a dumb back woods hick, but I think she has a lot of street smarts. She didn't always live in Putnam county. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 10, 2009, 07:21:26 PM
Since it is slow and I am feeling cranky with a sore throat I am going to say one thing about Tim Miller and Tes.  I said I could not fathom Tim associating himself with Donna and the antics that have gone one with Misty. His heart may have been in the right place, but he really used bad judment, in my view, to put his trust in Donna getting Misty softened up. I have seen her MySpaces, and the posting search pictures and upclose pictures with herself and other TES members while on a search is deplorable to me, and I can see no way  that this is ok. If Tim did or didn't know she did this, he should have.

I have donated several times to TES with no stipulation where the money would be spent. I left it up to Tim's descretion to use it in any way he saw fit to find a child. But never in my wildest dreams did I think he would dole out money in $300 increments to get Misty's nails done, or take her on a trip to Universal, Dayton, and New York. She's a tough little nut to crack, and all she will do is use him for her purposes, and most probably leave him high and dry as far as info.

I so hope I am wrong about this. I have just been trying to digest this news about Tim. To say I am stunned would be an understatement. All I can say is at least he was trying when it seems no one else is.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know my post about how I feel about Tim will not be popular. But that is not why I posted it. I just felt like it was something I needed to say.  ::MonkeyAngel::



Hi Fanny Mae.  I've come out from lurking to tell you I appreciate your opinion. I go back and forth re Tim's choice.  It's curious to me.  Maybe he needed someone who would get down and dirty.  Maybe the Mother Theresa type wouldn't work with Misty.  Misty probably requires excitement.
Anyway, I hope your sore throat feel better soon.  Is a hot toddy with honey in order?   ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 10, 2009, 07:22:02 PM
I FOUND THIS..THAT IS WHY I ASK ABOUT THE CANADA TICKET



    Misty's Lawyer "Quits" She Purchases Ticket To Canada!!
 
Body:  Oh yeah misty lawyer quit and somebody on topix got a copy of a plane ticket for Misty for October 13,2009. check it out:

Heres the article and link about her lawyer quitting:

Fields said he contacted Cummings on Thursday after hearing she was planning to appear on the CBS Morning News on Friday.

She said she would not but flew to New York for the show anyway.

Fields
said he texted her, notifying her of his decision, when the program
aired. He didn't know if she actually got the message because she
hadn't called him back as of Friday night.

Helping get clients
through difficult times relies less on newsprint and the glare of
television cameras, and more on "boring, gray, straight line work,"
Fields said.

Cummings apparently didn't agree. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 10, 2009, 07:22:29 PM
I have a question please. Is it true that misty bought a ticket to canada and her lawyer quit. I am just now getting on my computer I was reading that she bought a ticket. Does anyone know if that is true?

Robert Fields, Misty's lawyer did quit.

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/101009/news_2072176.shtml

I have seen nor heard nothing until your post about Misty buying a ticket to Canada.

Do you have a link for this?

maybe whoever are talking about this,statement in 8-09

By: John H. Gohde
Sunday, August 30, 2009, 9:06:08 PM | John H. Gohde
Misty manages to project a sympathetic image to the public, which had absolutely no effect on the professional
Polygraph, Voice Analysis, and Hypnosis examiners. As she says, she is just a 17 year-old girl.

Some bloggers, like Simon and Tj Hart, have responded foolishly to Misty’s sympathetic image by claiming that she
 has a sinister relationship with Ronald which is keeping her from coming clean. That she should fly to Canada in
order to get away from him. Could be, but I see Ronald more of a protector or savior of Misty from her Croslin
extended family.

Whatever is Misty’s problem, it has been over six months now.

Mo matter how much she has claimed to be innocent and loved Haleigh, only one thing is clear. Misty had absolutely
 no problem throwing Haleigh under the bus in order to save her own skin. If she was the least bit as mature as
all those hillbillies are claiming that she is, then Misty Croslin would have fest up on day one as to what went
down.

http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2009/08/30/misty-cummings-sodium-pentothal/



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 10, 2009, 07:24:02 PM
luvmyboys~  do you have a link for that?  BTW, you're nekky   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 10, 2009, 07:24:34 PM


I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

Thanks Brandi. I know there must be others that feel the same way and I know there are some that feel Tim can do no wrong. I don't even like feeling the way I do.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We all want to find Haleigh, no matter our viewpoints. Everyday we get up thinking this might be the day to find her. It is that way on several threads. Sometimes it is very disheartening and depressing. But then again, maybe tomorrow will be the day.   ::MonkeyAngel::


My view doesn't appear to be very popular either. My guess is that TM works on the sly for LE doing things they can't get away with. For all we know, LE could be footing the bill for Misty's mani.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 10, 2009, 07:29:16 PM
I have a question please. Is it true that misty bought a ticket to canada and her lawyer quit. I am just now getting on my computer I was reading that she bought a ticket. Does anyone know if that is true?
Yes, find out. There are three monkeys from Canada here. We'll met her at the airport.
lol
Misty would need a passport to get in, do you think she has one ?  You have to show the passport when you buy the ticket.
Her lawyer did release her as a client or whatever term they use. This was after he told her to do the show, she said she wouldn't and she did.
Yes, Kat I'm one of them.  Happy Thanksgiving BTW.

There was talk that Leonard wanted to take her to Canada.  I wonder if
it was arranged that Misty apply for a passport, and if she might have agreed to apply for one...just to keep that ace up her sleeve.  You never know when you might need a Lenny in your life. $$$'s
Maybe he'll become her next string along.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 07:44:19 PM
Since it is slow and I am feeling cranky with a sore throat I am going to say one thing about Tim Miller and Tes.  I said I could not fathom Tim associating himself with Donna and the antics that have gone one with Misty. His heart may have been in the right place, but he really used bad judment, in my view, to put his trust in Donna getting Misty softened up. I have seen her MySpaces, and the posting search pictures and upclose pictures with herself and other TES members while on a search is deplorable to me, and I can see no way  that this is ok. If Tim did or didn't know she did this, he should have.

I have donated several times to TES with no stipulation where the money would be spent. I left it up to Tim's descretion to use it in any way he saw fit to find a child. But never in my wildest dreams did I think he would dole out money in $300 increments to get Misty's nails done, or take her on a trip to Universal, Dayton, and New York. She's a tough little nut to crack, and all she will do is use him for her purposes, and most probably leave him high and dry as far as info.

I so hope I am wrong about this. I have just been trying to digest this news about Tim. To say I am stunned would be an understatement. All I can say is at least he was trying when it seems no one else is.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know my post about how I feel about Tim will not be popular. But that is not why I posted it. I just felt like it was something I needed to say.  ::MonkeyAngel::



Hi Fanny Mae.  I've come out from lurking to tell you I appreciate your opinion. I go back and forth re Tim's choice.  It's curious to me.  Maybe he needed someone who would get down and dirty.  Maybe the Mother Theresa type wouldn't work with Misty.  Misty probably requires excitement.
Anyway, I hope your sore throat feel better soon.  Is a hot toddy with honey in order?   ::MonkeyCheer2::

Thanks, Hot toddy with honey is definitely in order.

Sometimes I don't think down and dirty worked with Misty. She wouldn't be headed to Cananda if it did....On to the next victim that will "pamper her." JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 07:46:23 PM


I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

Thanks Brandi. I know there must be others that feel the same way and I know there are some that feel Tim can do no wrong. I don't even like feeling the way I do.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We all want to find Haleigh, no matter our viewpoints. Everyday we get up thinking this might be the day to find her. It is that way on several threads. Sometimes it is very disheartening and depressing. But then again, maybe tomorrow will be the day.   ::MonkeyAngel::


My view doesn't appear to be very popular either. My guess is that TM works on the sly for LE doing things they can't get away with. For all we know, LE could be footing the bill for Misty's mani.........

You opinion is as good as mine or anyone else's. Only thing is, I don't think Putnam County would have the funds, unless they dipped into their Homeland Security funds. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 07:47:05 PM
Now this kind of irresponsible blogging is what gets to me:

http://www.bloggernews.net/122585

Haleigh Cummings – Step Mom’s Lawyer Files For Divorce!
Posted on October 10th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed, crime

NOWHERE in the article does Simon mention anything about DIVORCE! But there it is in the headline.

(I hate giving him hits by mentioning this, but it is annoying and shows how some are just sensationalizing the story for hits.)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 07:49:06 PM
The incident report filed by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office lists the alleged victim of the "road rage" clash as Courtney Ballinger, 25. The report says her address is in Massachusetts.

The zip code for her address is Madison, Miss.

The area code for her two phones is Orlando.

Ballinger has been identified on a Facebook page as being as friend, or acquaintance, of "Steph," a man who runs a chat site devoted to HaLeigh Cummings and her disappearance.

That has led some on-line speculators to wonder out loud if the alleged encounter on the interstate was accidental.

http://staugustine.com/stories/101009/news_2072176.shtml

heart is this the same steph
http://www.stephwattsreporter.com/

he has a story listed here too, 2/3 down pg about Haleigh
http://texasequusearch.org/

and thanks for all your updates


Hi cw618!

Yes, one and the same.  Sorry it took me so long to respond. Saturday chores and then could not get back into SM for some reason.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: klaasend on October 10, 2009, 07:50:57 PM
I FOUND THIS..THAT IS WHY I ASK ABOUT THE CANADA TICKET



    Misty's Lawyer "Quits" She Purchases Ticket To Canada!!
 
Body:  Oh yeah misty lawyer quit and somebody on topix got a copy of a plane ticket for Misty for October 13,2009. check it out:

Heres the article and link about her lawyer quitting:

Fields said he contacted Cummings on Thursday after hearing she was planning to appear on the CBS Morning News on Friday.

She said she would not but flew to New York for the show anyway.

Fields
said he texted her, notifying her of his decision, when the program
aired. He didn't know if she actually got the message because she
hadn't called him back as of Friday night.

Helping get clients
through difficult times relies less on newsprint and the glare of
television cameras, and more on "boring, gray, straight line work,"
Fields said.

Cummings apparently didn't agree. 


Can you give us the LINK to where you are reading this please?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 10, 2009, 07:55:52 PM
Since it is slow and I am feeling cranky with a sore throat I am going to say one thing about Tim Miller and Tes.  I said I could not fathom Tim associating himself with Donna and the antics that have gone one with Misty. His heart may have been in the right place, but he really used bad judment, in my view, to put his trust in Donna getting Misty softened up. I have seen her MySpaces, and the posting search pictures and upclose pictures with herself and other TES members while on a search is deplorable to me, and I can see no way  that this is ok. If Tim did or didn't know she did this, he should have.

I have donated several times to TES with no stipulation where the money would be spent. I left it up to Tim's descretion to use it in any way he saw fit to find a child. But never in my wildest dreams did I think he would dole out money in $300 increments to get Misty's nails done, or take her on a trip to Universal, Dayton, and New York. She's a tough little nut to crack, and all she will do is use him for her purposes, and most probably leave him high and dry as far as info.

I so hope I am wrong about this. I have just been trying to digest this news about Tim. To say I am stunned would be an understatement. All I can say is at least he was trying when it seems no one else is.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know my post about how I feel about Tim will not be popular. But that is not why I posted it. I just felt like it was something I needed to say.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Fanny, so sorry you are feeling bad.  I don't even need a sore throat to feel cranky.   :smt003

I wouldn't begin to know why Tim M has done what he's done, whether LE is directing him or not. I've donated also and trust the funds are put to the best use.  If I didn't trust that, I wouldn't donate. 

So my thought is, if pampering Misty with a few dollars actually worked to get her to talk, wouldn't we all be cheering for Tim & over the moon happy ?    nome sain?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 07:56:59 PM
Now this kind of irresponsible blogging is what gets to me:

http://www.bloggernews.net/122585

Haleigh Cummings – Step Mom’s Lawyer Files For Divorce!
Posted on October 10th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed, crime

NOWHERE in the article does Simon mention anything about DIVORCE! But there it is in the headline.

(I hate giving him hits by mentioning this, but it is annoying and shows how some are just sensationalizing the story for hits.)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Hi Brandi,

Simon wanted to advertise "tommorrow's show" he dropped a link in the paragraph, very sauvy.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update


Upcoming Show: 10/11/2009 4:00 PM  (I think EST)
Host Name:  Blogger News Network 
Show Name:  Haleigh Anthony Update       
Length:  1 hr 30 min 

A look back at the past seven days in the frustrating Florida cases of Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony.
It has been a busy week, there is lots to talk about. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 08:00:42 PM
Now this kind of irresponsible blogging is what gets to me:

http://www.bloggernews.net/122585

Haleigh Cummings – Step Mom’s Lawyer Files For Divorce!
Posted on October 10th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed, crime

NOWHERE in the article does Simon mention anything about DIVORCE! But there it is in the headline.

(I hate giving him hits by mentioning this, but it is annoying and shows how some are just sensationalizing the story for hits.)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Hi Brandi,

Simon wanted to advertise "tommorrow's show" he dropped a link in the paragraph, very sauvy.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update


Upcoming Show: 10/11/2009 4:00 PM  (I think EST)
Host Name:  Blogger News Network 
Show Name:  Haleigh Anthony Update       
Length:  1 hr 30 min 

A look back at the past seven days in the frustrating Florida cases of Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony.
It has been a busy week, there is lots to talk about. 


I still find it very irresponsible. A title or headline should be reflective of the content, and it is not, in this case.

It's sensationalism to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on October 10, 2009, 08:03:21 PM
OT (sorry)
Klass i left you a post at LB Media ect thread.
tia.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 10, 2009, 08:03:57 PM
Since it is slow and I am feeling cranky with a sore throat I am going to say one thing about Tim Miller and Tes.  I said I could not fathom Tim associating himself with Donna and the antics that have gone one with Misty. His heart may have been in the right place, but he really used bad judment, in my view, to put his trust in Donna getting Misty softened up. I have seen her MySpaces, and the posting search pictures and upclose pictures with herself and other TES members while on a search is deplorable to me, and I can see no way  that this is ok. If Tim did or didn't know she did this, he should have.

I have donated several times to TES with no stipulation where the money would be spent. I left it up to Tim's descretion to use it in any way he saw fit to find a child. But never in my wildest dreams did I think he would dole out money in $300 increments to get Misty's nails done, or take her on a trip to Universal, Dayton, and New York. She's a tough little nut to crack, and all she will do is use him for her purposes, and most probably leave him high and dry as far as info.

I so hope I am wrong about this. I have just been trying to digest this news about Tim. To say I am stunned would be an understatement. All I can say is at least he was trying when it seems no one else is.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know my post about how I feel about Tim will not be popular. But that is not why I posted it. I just felt like it was something I needed to say.  ::MonkeyAngel::



Hi Fanny Mae.  I've come out from lurking to tell you I appreciate your opinion. I go back and forth re Tim's choice.  It's curious to me.  Maybe he needed someone who would get down and dirty.  Maybe the Mother Theresa type wouldn't work with Misty.  Misty probably requires excitement.
Anyway, I hope your sore throat feel better soon.  Is a hot toddy with honey in order?   ::MonkeyCheer2::

Thanks, Hot toddy with honey is definitely in order.

Sometimes I don't think down and dirty worked with Misty. She wouldn't be headed to Cananda if it did....On to the next victim that will "pamper her." JMO

Sorry.  I meant down and dirty to mean someone able to create a bit of excitement as in Donna -  i. e. car chase - have a few drinks, a few laughs
with money for manicures and shopping as icing on the cake.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 10, 2009, 08:04:47 PM
Fanny, I read your post and you have a valid point. Misty being " pampered " by TES. If it had worked it would have been a good investment considering how much money various agencies have dumped into the search black hole.
Maybe Donna was picked as she had a good rapport with Misty. A goody two shoes type would not have worked. 
And Can, now there are four Canuck monkeys that I know of, plus Dana.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 08:06:07 PM


I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

Thanks Brandi. I know there must be others that feel the same way and I know there are some that feel Tim can do no wrong. I don't even like feeling the way I do.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We all want to find Haleigh, no matter our viewpoints. Everyday we get up thinking this might be the day to find her. It is that way on several threads. Sometimes it is very disheartening and depressing. But then again, maybe tomorrow will be the day.   ::MonkeyAngel::


My view doesn't appear to be very popular either. My guess is that TM works on the sly for LE doing things they can't get away with. For all we know, LE could be footing the bill for Misty's mani.........

You opinion is as good as mine or anyone else's. Only thing is, I don't think Putnam County would have the funds, unless they dipped into their Homeland Security funds. JMO

I hope Misty won't give TM a heart attack over her stunts.  ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 10, 2009, 08:10:02 PM
Quote
Ballinger has been identified on a Facebook page as being as friend, or acquaintance, of "Steph," a man who runs a chat site devoted to HaLeigh Cummings and her disappearance.

That has led some on-line speculators to wonder out loud if the alleged encounter on the interstate was accidental.

http://staugustine.com/stories/101009/news_2072176.shtml


its ok heart, there is life to do and live
im still on the fence about the above bold quote
though nothing, in or about this case, would suprise, or shock me


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 08:11:51 PM
Now this kind of irresponsible blogging is what gets to me:

http://www.bloggernews.net/122585

Haleigh Cummings – Step Mom’s Lawyer Files For Divorce!
Posted on October 10th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed, crime

NOWHERE in the article does Simon mention anything about DIVORCE! But there it is in the headline.

(I hate giving him hits by mentioning this, but it is annoying and shows how some are just sensationalizing the story for hits.)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Hi Brandi,

Simon wanted to advertise "tommorrow's show" he dropped a link in the paragraph, very sauvy.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update


Upcoming Show: 10/11/2009 4:00 PM  (I think EST)
Host Name:  Blogger News Network 
Show Name:  Haleigh Anthony Update       
Length:  1 hr 30 min 

A look back at the past seven days in the frustrating Florida cases of Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony.
It has been a busy week, there is lots to talk about. 


I still find it very irresponsible. A title or headline should be reflective of the content, and it is not, in this case.

It's sensationalism to me.

Yes, I agree with you.
Simon is British, maybe, he writes backwards. The English words are funny, could it be he knows what he is saying or means, and just we American don't know how to interpret his writing?  He is full of scones if he really is being disceptive.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 08:15:37 PM
I have a question please. Is it true that misty bought a ticket to canada and her lawyer quit. I am just now getting on my computer I was reading that she bought a ticket. Does anyone know if that is true?

Robert Fields, Misty's lawyer did quit.

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/101009/news_2072176.shtml

I have seen nor heard nothing until your post about Misty buying a ticket to Canada.

Do you have a link for this?

Misty may be starting a rumor for kicks. ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 10, 2009, 08:18:28 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet.....This article is yet another reminder that LE is still looking long and hard at Misty. Wonder why that fact doesn't seem to bother her, or at least that's what she stated in her tv interview.......

Misty on police radar despite comments on TV

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:44 AM EDT
After eight months of scrutiny, Misty Cummings says the police and public need to focus their attention on someone else.

"They just need to move on and look for the right person because they're focusing on me, and I'm not the one who has Haleigh," the 17-year-old told CBS's "Early Show" co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez in a segment aired Friday. "I don't know where she is so they need to look for the person that does have Haleigh."

Misty Cummings was babysitting then 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings the night the kindergartner disappeared from her Satsuma home last February.

But authorities investigating the child's disappearance say Misty Cummings' statements have been inconsistent and they will continue to press for answers.



"She does have information that we need," Putnam County sheriff's spokesman Lt. Johnny Greenwood said Friday. "There are still things that she has been telling us that do not match the physical evidence."

Cummings flew to New York on Thursday to appear on the CBS program against her attorney's recommendation. During Friday's interview, Cummings appeared subdued. She wore a T-shirt with Haleigh's photo.

She told Rodriguez she thinks Haleigh is alive, and family members are holding her.

"Someone came in and got her, obviously," Cummings said. "I feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her."

Cummings wasn't pressed for further details, such as whether the "other side of the family" was her estranged husband, Ronald Cummings, or the family of Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield.

Ronald Cummings' attorney termed Misty Cummings' assertion "absolutely ludicrous."

"That was stated merely for the purpose of deflecting attention away from her," lawyer Brandon Beardsley told the Orlando Sentinel.

Cummings, who reportedly has failed several lie detector tests, said she was only supposed to undergo hypnosis when she took the latest polygraph in August. She attributed the failures to "I feel like it's my fault because I was the last one seen with her."

Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's father, has said he was divorcing Misty Cummings. The paperwork is set to go through next week, according to her attorney, Robert Fields of Palatka.

Misty Cummings discussed the pending divorce with Rodriguez.

"If that's what happens, it happens," Cummings said. "We're going to still stay in contact. And if something happens down the road, then we might end up back together. I don't know."

Cummings also told Rodriguez that the divorce has nothing to do with her criticism from investigators.

"He tells me, it's just too much pressure on us right now," she said of her husband. "And you know, I got family problems. My family's trying to start problems. It's just too hard.

"He believes me. He doesn't think I had anything to do with Haleigh going missing."

Added Cummings, "I just want everything to be back to normal. I want Haleigh home," Cummings said.

CBS acknowledged the network paid Misty Cummings' travel expenses to appear on the program and said a second segment would be aired on Monday in which she further criticizes her family.

The sheriff's office has now received approximately 5,000 tips since Haleigh was reporting missing at 3:27 a.m. Feb. 10.

Cummings, who was babysitting Haleigh the night she disappeared, told authorities she put Haleigh to bed at 8 p.m., and awoke at 3 a.m. to discover the child missing. She married Ronald Cummings about a month later.

Authorities have said they believe Haleigh was abducted. No suspects have been identified.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/10/10/news/news01.txt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 08:19:09 PM
I have a question please. Is it true that misty bought a ticket to canada and her lawyer quit. I am just now getting on my computer I was reading that she bought a ticket. Does anyone know if that is true?
Yes, find out. There are three monkeys from Canada here. We'll met her at the airport.
lol
Misty would need a passport to get in, do you think she has one ?  You have to show the passport when you buy the ticket.
Her lawyer did release her as a client or whatever term they use. This was after he told her to do the show, she said she wouldn't and she did.
Yes, Kat I'm one of them.  Happy Thanksgiving BTW.

There was talk that Leonard wanted to take her to Canada.  I wonder if
it was arranged that Misty apply for a passport, and if she might have agreed to apply for one...just to keep that ace up her sleeve.  You never know when you might need a Lenny in your life. $$$'s
Maybe he'll become her next string along.

Wow, Kat, forgot about that one!  Misty would need to be a little desperate to run into a cowboy's arms.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 08:20:18 PM
I appreciate all who have responded to me about Tim Miller and Tes. I think the thing that bothers me the most is the caliber of person Donna seems to be. Maybe the other MySpaces were just fakes to show what a bad azz she is to get Misty to come over, but it is the openly posting the pictures of the Tes searches and the TES member that have really gotten to me. Most of them with her in them looked like she was being a glory seeker, and anyhow, supposedly against Tes rules. I would think an Orlando Team Leader would know better than this.

Tess is having enough legal problems with Bozo and his ridiculous filings for private personal info on TES. I would think that would me another more important reason to be careful of doing this.

I see the pros and cons of what Tim has done. I just voiced my feeling about my reaction to this action. I still have respect and admiration for him. I think he has done many wonderful things, and I know his story. I am just disappointed in his judgement this time.

And I begrudge even giving Misty money to clean her nasty little fingernails up. If she had told the truth to begin with, and not been involved directly with harming Haleigh, I might have sent her money to do her mani myself.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 08:21:20 PM


I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

Thanks Brandi. I know there must be others that feel the same way and I know there are some that feel Tim can do no wrong. I don't even like feeling the way I do.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We all want to find Haleigh, no matter our viewpoints. Everyday we get up thinking this might be the day to find her. It is that way on several threads. Sometimes it is very disheartening and depressing. But then again, maybe tomorrow will be the day.   ::MonkeyAngel::


My view doesn't appear to be very popular either. My guess is that TM works on the sly for LE doing things they can't get away with. For all we know, LE could be footing the bill for Misty's mani.........

N2WISHN it just might be LE, but I would put my money on Mark NeJame.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 10, 2009, 08:26:34 PM


I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

Thanks Brandi. I know there must be others that feel the same way and I know there are some that feel Tim can do no wrong. I don't even like feeling the way I do.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We all want to find Haleigh, no matter our viewpoints. Everyday we get up thinking this might be the day to find her. It is that way on several threads. Sometimes it is very disheartening and depressing. But then again, maybe tomorrow will be the day.   ::MonkeyAngel::


My view doesn't appear to be very popular either. My guess is that TM works on the sly for LE doing things they can't get away with. For all we know, LE could be footing the bill for Misty's mani.........

N2WISHN it just might be LE, but I would put my money on Mark NeJame.
heart, so would I.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 10, 2009, 08:28:14 PM


I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

Thanks Brandi. I know there must be others that feel the same way and I know there are some that feel Tim can do no wrong. I don't even like feeling the way I do.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We all want to find Haleigh, no matter our viewpoints. Everyday we get up thinking this might be the day to find her. It is that way on several threads. Sometimes it is very disheartening and depressing. But then again, maybe tomorrow will be the day.   ::MonkeyAngel::


My view doesn't appear to be very popular either. My guess is that TM works on the sly for LE doing things they can't get away with. For all we know, LE could be footing the bill for Misty's mani.........

N2WISHN it just might be LE, but I would put my money on Mark NeJame.



MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 10, 2009, 08:32:43 PM
Fanny, I read your post and you have a valid point. Misty being " pampered " by TES. If it had worked it would have been a good investment considering how much money various agencies have dumped into the search black hole.
Maybe Donna was picked as she had a good rapport with Misty. A goody two shoes type would not have worked. 
And Can, now there are four Canuck monkeys that I know of, plus Dana.

 ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 10, 2009, 08:39:36 PM
quotes from steph and misty from
http://stephww.wordpress.com/category/featured/

Quote
When I asked about visiting law enforcement she detailed what that visit entailed.

“I was there to tell them where I was staying, and tell them how to reach me. I was there for about an hour yesterday before I left for Orlando. I just listened as they talked and never asked me any questions.”

What did they say to you?

“I can’t talk about that right now.”


i was not aware misty, had to report in where she is, with the putnam LE


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 08:45:30 PM


I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

Thanks Brandi. I know there must be others that feel the same way and I know there are some that feel Tim can do no wrong. I don't even like feeling the way I do.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We all want to find Haleigh, no matter our viewpoints. Everyday we get up thinking this might be the day to find her. It is that way on several threads. Sometimes it is very disheartening and depressing. But then again, maybe tomorrow will be the day.   ::MonkeyAngel::


My view doesn't appear to be very popular either. My guess is that TM works on the sly for LE doing things they can't get away with. For all we know, LE could be footing the bill for Misty's mani.........

N2WISHN it just might be LE, but I would put my money on Mark NeJame.
heart, so would I.


I have just never seen bad behavior being rewarded ever comes out good, especially for a seventeen year old street smart twit.  There should be consequences for bad behavior in my view. She already knows how to work the system. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 08:52:50 PM

Well, from where I sit (which is often around the "tables") we are self centered. But we also love our kids. When I was actively drinking, I really really wanted to take care of my kids - unfortunately sometimes I got in the way. I know nothing of drug addicts since I am not one. But as a recovered alcoholic, I know that we do get lost in our selves. We do hurt our family. We do not want to change until very late in the game, however. We do not know what we do is wrong. We really THINK we are functioning. We THINK we are taking care of our families. Not until we reach a turning point within ourselves (not from emotional appeals from our family or from a judge) do we change and see the falsity of our lives. Then we do need help from something bigger than ourselves. In my book, it is not an addiction counselor or a treatment center - by definition we are beyond human aid. We have to be ready to give up our will - which is not an easy thing.

I do not see Misty or Ron or any of the other players in this case ready to do that. All I see are spoiled little kids that expect Mommy and the world to fix what they screw up.

<<< monkey hugs >>>

for you, theboyzmom, and any other monkey having reached this clarity in their lives.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 08:57:10 PM


I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

Thanks Brandi. I know there must be others that feel the same way and I know there are some that feel Tim can do no wrong. I don't even like feeling the way I do.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We all want to find Haleigh, no matter our viewpoints. Everyday we get up thinking this might be the day to find her. It is that way on several threads. Sometimes it is very disheartening and depressing. But then again, maybe tomorrow will be the day.   ::MonkeyAngel::


My view doesn't appear to be very popular either. My guess is that TM works on the sly for LE doing things they can't get away with. For all we know, LE could be footing the bill for Misty's mani.........

N2WISHN it just might be LE, but I would put my money on Mark NeJame.
heart, so would I.


I have just never seen bad behavior being rewarded ever comes out good, especially for a seventeen year old street smart twit.  There should be consequences for bad behavior in my view. She already knows how to work the system. JMO

Well I for one cannot grasp what the point was/is of revealing this info including and especially the threesome info except perhaps distraction,  since the DB cover had been blown and posters dug up who she is and who she worked for.

We've gone through this sensationalism before with Cobra,  AH, and KP and still no HaLeigh.

It is pretty disgusting to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 08:59:21 PM
Sorry about typos.  For anything longer than a few lines (quotes included), I'm forced to type blind.

O/T but a Monkey helped me with this the other day as I had the same problem. Look up to your browser bar and left click on Page. Go down to Compatability View Settings. Click on View all websites in Compatability View. This saved my sanity as I had the same problem after switching to IE 8.

O/T - I have tried again to use IE8 with the compatability view checked and IE8 is just way too slow for me.  Not to mention the Flash10 errors I kept getting that would close down IE8.  I've finally decided to get used to Firefox.  I've had zero errors and it is much faster than IE8.

End of public service announcement  ::MonkeyCool::

LOL Klaas!   ::MonkeyBike:: 

My thoughts exactly.  Firefox is the way to go!!  IE (any number) is errrrmm <thoughts deleted for the sake of decency>. 

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 08:59:33 PM
Now this kind of irresponsible blogging is what gets to me:

http://www.bloggernews.net/122585

Haleigh Cummings – Step Mom’s Lawyer Files For Divorce!
Posted on October 10th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed, crime

NOWHERE in the article does Simon mention anything about DIVORCE! But there it is in the headline.

(I hate giving him hits by mentioning this, but it is annoying and shows how some are just sensationalizing the story for hits.)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Confusing BNN Article Title means that Misty's Lawyer Has Quit (Divorced Her)
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 09:03:50 PM
(http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/091008113923_100809_MistyCummingsAirport2.JPG)
Would you like to be my friend. I'm available and
I have secrets to tell!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 10, 2009, 09:04:01 PM


I certainly understand how you are feeling.

And I agree, at least TM is trying to help, whereas we don't see anyone else trying.

And I also know how to post unpopular opinions. LOL

I know neither you nor I are here to be popular, though.

We are here in the interest of finding out where Haleigh is!

Just wanted to say this, although it is not much.

Thanks Brandi. I know there must be others that feel the same way and I know there are some that feel Tim can do no wrong. I don't even like feeling the way I do.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We all want to find Haleigh, no matter our viewpoints. Everyday we get up thinking this might be the day to find her. It is that way on several threads. Sometimes it is very disheartening and depressing. But then again, maybe tomorrow will be the day.   ::MonkeyAngel::


My view doesn't appear to be very popular either. My guess is that TM works on the sly for LE doing things they can't get away with. For all we know, LE could be footing the bill for Misty's mani.........

N2WISHN it just might be LE, but I would put my money on Mark NeJame.
heart, so would I.


I have just never seen bad behavior being rewarded ever comes out good, especially for a seventeen year old street smart twit.  There should be consequences for bad behavior in my view. She already knows how to work the system. JMO

Well I for one cannot grasp what the point was/is of revealing this info including and especially the threesome info except perhaps distraction,  since the DB cover had been blown and posters dug up who she is and who she worked for.

We've gone through this sensationalism before with Cobra,  AH, and KP and still no HaLeigh.

It is pretty disgusting to me.
Heart, I agree. I think we have come to expect more from Tim because of his character and credibility. His choice of words as well as associates such as Ms. Brock are troubling to me.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 09:07:27 PM
RT @hobbitt55: LLM Papa on Simon Barrett http://bit.ly/1gb25kabout 1 hour ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 09:08:06 PM
I have a question to ask, and maybe someone can tell me. I know that Twitter is a new way to communicate ideas. I admit to being Twitter ignorant, so bear with me.

Ever since I have been on SM we have all brought over blogs, and other things we have found on the web, usuallly with a link. Sometimes we have even brought over a comment or two from a blog or a story. But it seems to me that twitter comments are mostly gossip, or statements made by anon people that show no proof at all there is any truth in what they are saying. So why is it now, for the past several months, a lot of what we are discussing is something brought over from Twitter that is not necessarily known to be the truth. Sometimes there is one by the author of the blog, but many times it is just anonymous posters. It sound like a gossip party line to me.

Sometimes, two different Twitters sites say two totally opposite things. Like last night one said Crystal had been stopped, and one said she had not. I think this whole twitter business is causing a lot of gossip and confusion going on, instead of working with actual links.

Please,  someone show me where I am wrong about this. 

Thank you for saying this, Fanny.  I am 'twitter challenged', and totally agree with what you've described. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 10, 2009, 09:09:26 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
My apologies, Strayze. I misspoke and did not express myself well. I'm truly sorry. -Sailcat
It depends upon what one's line of work is, or in the alternative, one's experiences when expressing our concerns about addicts.  In my line of work, an addict is by definition self-cenbtered.  The degree of self-centeredness can vary I suppose.  The addict is entrapped in a hopeless struggle.  It takes some kind of help to become unaddicted.  It cannot be done alone.  One cannot simply think one's way back to the sober life.  I've seen marvelous recoveries where the former addict emerges the produtive empathetic human being that God intended.



.


Well, from where I sit (which is often around the "tables") we are self centered. But we also love our kids. When I was actively drinking, I really really wanted to take care of my kids - unfortunately sometimes I got in the way. I know nothing of drug addicts since I am not one. But as a recovered alcoholic, I know that we do get lost in our selves. We do hurt our family. We do not want to change until very late in the game, however. We do not know what we do is wrong. We really THINK we are functioning. We THINK we are taking care of our families. Not until we reach a turning point within ourselves (not from emotional appeals from our family or from a judge) do we change and see the falsity of our lives. Then we do need help from something bigger than ourselves. In my book, it is not an addiction counselor or a treatment center - by definition we are beyond human aid. We have to be ready to give up our will - which is not an easy thing.

I do not see Misty or Ron or any of the other players in this case ready to do that. All I see are spoiled little kids that expect Mommy and the world to fix what they screw up.
Often it not treatment centers or addiction or alcohol counselors that provide the best  guidance.  Often group ,meetings such as alcoholics anomymous work wonders- - - - and it is free.  Learning from and getting support from others can be very helpful.  Nontheists get sober too.  Primary to sobering up is the desire to kick the habit.  Often people come to realize that they do have a problem when confronted by a supervisor or by trusted family members or friends..  As for Croslin families and most likely the Cummings families, there may be no sober family members or friends to confront Misty and Ron.  I'm appalled at Misty's use at such a young age.  It appears that at 17, she is a seasoned user.  I'm wondering what she will look like at 30- - - possibly like her mother.  With a population of families like the Cummings and Croslins, the police must be kept busy.  Addicts and alcoholics are nonproductive and  the cause of criminal acts.  They also are the cause of admissions to the emergency nrooms, something that productive taxpayers pay for, as Ers must treat all comers. Addicts and alcoholics are a big drain on society.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 10, 2009, 09:17:49 PM
I have a question to ask, and maybe someone can tell me. I know that Twitter is a new way to communicate ideas. I admit to being Twitter ignorant, so bear with me.

Ever since I have been on SM we have all brought over blogs, and other things we have found on the web, usuallly with a link. Sometimes we have even brought over a comment or two from a blog or a story. But it seems to me that twitter comments are mostly gossip, or statements made by anon people that show no proof at all there is any truth in what they are saying. So why is it now, for the past several months, a lot of what we are discussing is something brought over from Twitter that is not necessarily known to be the truth. Sometimes there is one by the author of the blog, but many times it is just anonymous posters. It sound like a gossip party line to me.

Sometimes, two different Twitters sites say two totally opposite things. Like last night one said Crystal had been stopped, and one said she had not. I think this whole twitter business is causing a lot of gossip and confusion going on, instead of working with actual links.

Please,  someone show me where I am wrong about this. 

Thank you for saying this, Fanny.  I am 'twitter challenged', and totally agree with what you've described. 


  I too am NOT impressed with Twitter.  I don't get it- - - - other than an abbreviated medium for gossip.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: klaasend on October 10, 2009, 09:27:12 PM
I have a question to ask, and maybe someone can tell me. I know that Twitter is a new way to communicate ideas. I admit to being Twitter ignorant, so bear with me.

Ever since I have been on SM we have all brought over blogs, and other things we have found on the web, usuallly with a link. Sometimes we have even brought over a comment or two from a blog or a story. But it seems to me that twitter comments are mostly gossip, or statements made by anon people that show no proof at all there is any truth in what they are saying. So why is it now, for the past several months, a lot of what we are discussing is something brought over from Twitter that is not necessarily known to be the truth. Sometimes there is one by the author of the blog, but many times it is just anonymous posters. It sound like a gossip party line to me.

Sometimes, two different Twitters sites say two totally opposite things. Like last night one said Crystal had been stopped, and one said she had not. I think this whole twitter business is causing a lot of gossip and confusion going on, instead of working with actual links.

Please,  someone show me where I am wrong about this. 

Thank you for saying this, Fanny.  I am 'twitter challenged', and totally agree with what you've described. 


  I too am NOT impressed with Twitter.  I don't get it- - - - other than an abbreviated medium for gossip.

I get it, just don't care to use it.  I have an account but you would be bored if you followed me, LOL  ::MonkeyCool::  I feel like Miley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tSOTQPUQoU


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 10, 2009, 09:30:21 PM
Sorry about typos.  For anything longer than a few lines (quotes included), I'm forced to type blind.

O/T but a Monkey helped me with this the other day as I had the same problem. Look up to your browser bar and left click on Page. Go down to Compatability View Settings. Click on View all websites in Compatability View. This saved my sanity as I had the same problem after switching to IE 8.

O/T - I have tried again to use IE8 with the compatability view checked and IE8 is just way too slow for me.  Not to mention the Flash10 errors I kept getting that would close down IE8.  I've finally decided to get used to Firefox.  I've had zero errors and it is much faster than IE8.

End of public service announcement  ::MonkeyCool::

LOL Klaas!   ::MonkeyBike:: 

My thoughts exactly.  Firefox is the way to go!!  IE (any number) is errrrmm <thoughts deleted for the sake of decency>. 

 
  I've tried it Blu, and it worked.  In my computer it's under Tools, and all one has to do is to click on "compatibility view".  Thank you very much.  I would never have known if you had not clued me in.  Much easier than struggling as before.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 09:32:21 PM
I have a question to ask, and maybe someone can tell me. I know that Twitter is a new way to communicate ideas. I admit to being Twitter ignorant, so bear with me.

Ever since I have been on SM we have all brought over blogs, and other things we have found on the web, usuallly with a link. Sometimes we have even brought over a comment or two from a blog or a story. But it seems to me that twitter comments are mostly gossip, or statements made by anon people that show no proof at all there is any truth in what they are saying. So why is it now, for the past several months, a lot of what we are discussing is something brought over from Twitter that is not necessarily known to be the truth. Sometimes there is one by the author of the blog, but many times it is just anonymous posters. It sound like a gossip party line to me.

Sometimes, two different Twitters sites say two totally opposite things. Like last night one said Crystal had been stopped, and one said she had not. I think this whole twitter business is causing a lot of gossip and confusion going on, instead of working with actual links.

Please,  someone show me where I am wrong about this. 

Thank you for saying this, Fanny.  I am 'twitter challenged', and totally agree with what you've described. 



The same people that are twitting in this case are the same people that are in the various forums. 

Some info in forums are someone ones opinion, the same that is in the twitts and opinions do not have links. When I copy and paste a post from twitt, I post the link unless I forget.  There is info posted on twitt that is good info and then there is just gossip and scrabbling.

When there is misinfo such as Crystal being pulled over by LE, there will be/was  someone to come along and clear it up, just like in the forum, just like some of the mis-info in the media.

Not knocking the poster that posted here last week about Hank Croslin, and Tommy Croslin's name being heard on the LE scanner.  Others heard it also and posted it on twitter, but to my knowledge nothing ever came of it.

Today it is the twitter age, tomorrow it will be something else in the world of technology.

http://twitter.com/theearlyshow
http://twitter.com/myfoxorlando
http://twitter.com/docstoc
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM
http://twitter.com/TexasEquuSearchisher


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 09:33:03 PM
Fanny - I hope you feel better soon.   As far as your feelings for TM and DB. They are your feelings and you should voice them if it bothers you. This is why this board is so great. Trust me you are not alone in feeling this way. TM is a great man and does wonderful things for families. I however do believe this was not the best choice that he made.

If he made this choice, I have to think it was done with all his best intentions at heart.  It's kind of an eye-opener for me, because I have such a high regard for Tim Miller that it's difficult at best to realize he can be wrong at times.   This choice, IMO, may come back to haunt him.  And yet, for me, it does not negate all the wonderful things he's done, and the wonderful man he is.  JMO. 

Do we know where the money came from?  If from Tim, whether it was his own money, or did it have backing from TES itself?  I have a hard time believing he would use donations for this with Misty.  I do know that he has put his all into TES, every bit of himself, including his own money, time, even risking his own health in the process.  Perhaps he feels there is a portion of the 'undesignated' funds to use in the way he feels best?  I dunno.  Am struggling with this part.  And hope to gosh I'm not just kidding myself.  Maybe someone can help me to better understand? 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 09:37:56 PM
Can anyone see me in here

I see you, luvmyboys, but you are streaking thru.   ::MonkeyWink::  Which only means that your avatar isn't showing. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 10, 2009, 09:53:50 PM
quotes from steph and misty from
http://stephww.wordpress.com/category/featured/

Quote
When I asked about visiting law enforcement she detailed what that visit entailed.

“I was there to tell them where I was staying, and tell them how to reach me. I was there for about an hour yesterday before I left for Orlando. I just listened as they talked and never asked me any questions.”

What did they say to you?

“I can’t talk about that right now.”


i was not aware misty, had to report in where she is, with the putnam LE

According to Steph ( stephww.wordpress.com/category/featured/ ) Misty states that she plans to go back to school.   She certainly will have a challenge to fill in from grade 4.  I hope she has the ability to stick it out with all the distractions, many of her own making.  Perhaps its easier for a teenager to advance through remedial grade school education.  It would be easier if she would be more forthcoming with LE and stop hiding what she knows about the circumstances of the night of Haleigh's dissappearance.  Perhaps she needs protective custudy if what she is afraid of is truly life-threatening, but I don't understand that system at all.  I've been concerned about Misty's physical state the night of the disappearance, given her 3 day partying/sexing spree.  I can't imagine that she had a clear mind in her drug-filled body.  Her biggest challenge to getting her desired education is the necessity to kick her years-long drug habit.  She truly cannot achieve her goal with her drug habit.  She will need all the courage she can muster, and perhaps the help of self-help groups such as narcotics anonymous.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 10, 2009, 09:54:10 PM
Sorry about typos.  For anything longer than a few lines (quotes included), I'm forced to type blind.

O/T but a Monkey helped me with this the other day as I had the same problem. Look up to your browser bar and left click on Page. Go down to Compatability View Settings. Click on View all websites in Compatability View. This saved my sanity as I had the same problem after switching to IE 8.

O/T - I have tried again to use IE8 with the compatability view checked and IE8 is just way too slow for me.  Not to mention the Flash10 errors I kept getting that would close down IE8.  I've finally decided to get used to Firefox.  I've had zero errors and it is much faster than IE8.

End of public service announcement  ::MonkeyCool::

LOL Klaas!   ::MonkeyBike:: 

My thoughts exactly.  Firefox is the way to go!!  IE (any number) is errrrmm <thoughts deleted for the sake of decency>. 

 
  I've tried it Blu, and it worked.  In my computer it's under Tools, and all one has to do is to click on "compatibility view".  Thank you very much.  I would never have known if you had not clued me in.  Much easier than struggling as before.
Glad it helped.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 10, 2009, 09:55:32 PM
custody for custudy in line 1 above.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 09:56:03 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on October 10, 2009, 09:57:15 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
:smt056


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: theboyzmom on October 10, 2009, 09:59:43 PM

Well, from where I sit (which is often around the "tables") we are self centered. But we also love our kids. When I was actively drinking, I really really wanted to take care of my kids - unfortunately sometimes I got in the way. I know nothing of drug addicts since I am not one. But as a recovered alcoholic, I know that we do get lost in our selves. We do hurt our family. We do not want to change until very late in the game, however. We do not know what we do is wrong. We really THINK we are functioning. We THINK we are taking care of our families. Not until we reach a turning point within ourselves (not from emotional appeals from our family or from a judge) do we change and see the falsity of our lives. Then we do need help from something bigger than ourselves. In my book, it is not an addiction counselor or a treatment center - by definition we are beyond human aid. We have to be ready to give up our will - which is not an easy thing.

I do not see Misty or Ron or any of the other players in this case ready to do that. All I see are spoiled little kids that expect Mommy and the world to fix what they screw up.

<<< monkey hugs >>>

for you, theboyzmom, and any other monkey having reached this clarity in their lives.



<<<hugs>>> back at cha girl!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 10:00:23 PM
I have a question to ask, and maybe someone can tell me. I know that Twitter is a new way to communicate ideas. I admit to being Twitter ignorant, so bear with me.

Ever since I have been on SM we have all brought over blogs, and other things we have found on the web, usuallly with a link. Sometimes we have even brought over a comment or two from a blog or a story. But it seems to me that twitter comments are mostly gossip, or statements made by anon people that show no proof at all there is any truth in what they are saying. So why is it now, for the past several months, a lot of what we are discussing is something brought over from Twitter that is not necessarily known to be the truth. Sometimes there is one by the author of the blog, but many times it is just anonymous posters. It sound like a gossip party line to me.

Sometimes, two different Twitters sites say two totally opposite things. Like last night one said Crystal had been stopped, and one said she had not. I think this whole twitter business is causing a lot of gossip and confusion going on, instead of working with actual links.

Please,  someone show me where I am wrong about this. 

Thank you for saying this, Fanny.  I am 'twitter challenged', and totally agree with what you've described. 



The same people that are twitting in this case are the same people that are in the various forums. 

Some info in forums are someone ones opinion, the same that is in the twitts and opinions do not have links. When I copy and paste a post from twitt, I post the link unless I forget.  There is info posted on twitt that is good info and then there is just gossip and scrabbling.

When there is misinfo such as Crystal being pulled over by LE, there will be/was  someone to come along and clear it up, just like in the forum, just like some of the mis-info in the media.

Not knocking the poster that posted here last week about Hank Croslin, and Tommy Croslin's name being heard on the LE scanner.  Others heard it also and posted it on twitter, but to my knowledge nothing ever came of it.

Today it is the twitter age, tomorrow it will be something else in the world of technology.

http://twitter.com/theearlyshow
http://twitter.com/myfoxorlando
http://twitter.com/docstoc
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM
http://twitter.com/TexasEquuSearchisher

I do get the twitter is a new technology thing and that there are some from legitimate news sites. What makes me scratch my head is if the twitterers are people on the forums,why are they talking about it on  the forums, instead of bringing over possible erronenous information and saying they read it on the twitter and post a link, when they have no idea who some of these people are, or if the thing they are bringing over is verified. It is almost like saying my neighbor told me on the phone that her son's boss's friend's girlfriend's grandmother's brother said.....fill in the blanks. That's what I am talking about. Just because it is said on Twitter, don't necessarily make it so.

Every now and then, something may be the truth. But most of the time it fades away, or was erroneous, or factual to a point but not completely. For all those twitter sites you just posted, I could put up several that would curl your hair. As I said, I know how to follow along, I just don't post what I see.

I'm not hitting on you because you twitter, and I was not necessarily pointing you out. I just don't see the place for it here on SM. I may be totally wrong, but that is my take on things. I can listen to the Putnam Co radio myself, and in that case I would post something I heard. And I will scan news sites and post the link and story if it is pertinent. But the comment section to me is the gossip section. That's just me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 10:08:29 PM
I have a question to ask, and maybe someone can tell me. I know that Twitter is a new way to communicate ideas. I admit to being Twitter ignorant, so bear with me.

Ever since I have been on SM we have all brought over blogs, and other things we have found on the web, usuallly with a link. Sometimes we have even brought over a comment or two from a blog or a story. But it seems to me that twitter comments are mostly gossip, or statements made by anon people that show no proof at all there is any truth in what they are saying. So why is it now, for the past several months, a lot of what we are discussing is something brought over from Twitter that is not necessarily known to be the truth. Sometimes there is one by the author of the blog, but many times it is just anonymous posters. It sound like a gossip party line to me.

Sometimes, two different Twitters sites say two totally opposite things. Like last night one said Crystal had been stopped, and one said she had not. I think this whole twitter business is causing a lot of gossip and confusion going on, instead of working with actual links.

Please,  someone show me where I am wrong about this. 

Thank you for saying this, Fanny.  I am 'twitter challenged', and totally agree with what you've described. 



The same people that are twitting in this case are the same people that are in the various forums. 

Some info in forums are someone ones opinion, the same that is in the twitts and opinions do not have links. When I copy and paste a post from twitt, I post the link unless I forget.  There is info posted on twitt that is good info and then there is just gossip and scrabbling.

When there is misinfo such as Crystal being pulled over by LE, there will be/was  someone to come along and clear it up, just like in the forum, just like some of the mis-info in the media.

Not knocking the poster that posted here last week about Hank Croslin, and Tommy Croslin's name being heard on the LE scanner.  Others heard it also and posted it on twitter, but to my knowledge nothing ever came of it.

Today it is the twitter age, tomorrow it will be something else in the world of technology.

http://twitter.com/theearlyshow
http://twitter.com/myfoxorlando
http://twitter.com/docstoc
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM
http://twitter.com/TexasEquuSearchisher

I do get the twitter is a new technology thing and that there are some from legitimate news sites. What makes me scratch my head is if the twitterers are people on the forums,why are they talking about it on  the forums, instead of bringing over possible erronenous information and saying they read it on the twitter and post a link, when they have no idea who some of these people are, or if the thing they are bringing over is verified. It is almost like saying my neighbor told me on the phone that her son's boss's friend's girlfriend's grandmother's brother said.....fill in the blanks. That's what I am talking about. Just because it is said on Twitter, don't necessarily make it so.

Every now and then, something may be the truth. But most of the time it fades away, or was erroneous, or factual to a point but not completely. For all those twitter sites you just posted, I could put up several that would curl your hair. As I said, I know how to follow along, I just don't post what I see.

I'm not hitting on you because you twitter, and I was not necessarily pointing you out. I just don't see the place for it here on SM. I may be totally wrong, but that is my take on things. I can listen to the Putnam Co radio myself, and in that case I would post something I heard. And I will scan news sites and post the link and story if it is pertinent. But the comment section to me is the gossip section. That's just me.

Fanny, I agree with you.

For what that's worth.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 10:11:26 PM
TM admitted that he bankrolled the "vacation" that Misty went on. He was hoping that Misty would relax and divulge information. 1 minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 10, 2009, 10:14:18 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 10:16:32 PM
TM admitted that he bankrolled the "vacation" that Misty went on. He was hoping that Misty would relax and divulge information. 1 minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

If that is true, I am very disappointed.

And what will he do about Donna and the TES pictures posted on her public MySpace?  I saw those myself. I still think that needs to be addressed. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: klaasend on October 10, 2009, 10:17:12 PM
TM admitted that he bankrolled the "vacation" that Misty went on. He was hoping that Misty would relax and divulge information. 1 minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

Is there an article or video stating this?  I'd like something other than a twitter post from HootSuite.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 10:19:26 PM


Fanny, I agree with you.

For what that's worth.

You didn't have to agree with me Brandi, but thank you, and it's worth a lot.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 10, 2009, 10:20:28 PM


Fanny, I agree with you.

For what that's worth.

You didn't have to agree with me Brandi, but thank you, and it's worth a lot.   ::MonkeyKiss::

Well, I do!

And thank you.

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sugarBabies on October 10, 2009, 10:21:21 PM
TM admitted that he bankrolled the "vacation" that Misty went on. He was hoping that Misty would relax and divulge information. 1 minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

Is it possible by taking her to Canada he wants her to think she is out of LE's reach?  She'll be out of the country, she may think she's safe if she talks there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 10:22:17 PM

Often it not treatment centers or addiction or alcohol counselors that provide the best  guidance.  Often group ,meetings such as alcoholics anomymous work wonders- - - - and it is free.  Learning from and getting support from others can be very helpful.  Nontheists get sober too.  Primary to sobering up is the desire to kick the habit.  Often people come to realize that they do have a problem when confronted by a supervisor or by trusted family members or friends..  As for Croslin families and most likely the Cummings families, there may be no sober family members or friends to confront Misty and Ron.  I'm appalled at Misty's use at such a young age.  It appears that at 17, she is a seasoned user.  I'm wondering what she will look like at 30- - - possibly like her mother.  With a population of families like the Cummings and Croslins, the police must be kept busy.  Addicts and alcoholics are nonproductive and  the cause of criminal acts.  They also are the cause of admissions to the emergency nrooms, something that productive taxpayers pay for, as Ers must treat all comers. Addicts and alcoholics are a big drain on society.

I agree, Strayze, very often it takes someone who has been there, done that.  And that coming from an LCSW, now retired and on disability who has worked with these folks.  Seems the ones that an alcoholic/addict will listen to, are often the ones who have successfully turned their lives around.  Some need that 'in your face' moment of reality, a telling like it is.  And that very often takes someone who has been there.  IMO.  Not saying that counseling won't help, especially in the case of an alcoholic/addict who has finally hit their final bottom, who would be receptive to getting the help they need.   It's the ones who've been there who can help them reach that point tho. 

IMO, just from what we've read about in Haleigh's case, and watched happened play out in front of our eyes in the media etc... many players in this case are nowhere near ready to get real with themselves.  And unfortunately, we are seeing how the children suffer the most.  Who then, if they make it thru alive, often continue the madness as adults, and with their own children.  What always amazes me are the children/adults who reach inside themselves to a strength that comes to them somehow, and go in the opposite direction. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 10:26:27 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 10, 2009, 10:27:49 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

Just got back from a longgggggg hot day of football ::MonkeyCheer2:: But wanted to pop in for a bit and say I totally agree with you Magnolia. I respect everyone's opinions but if this was what it took to bring HaLeigh home I think most would be applauding him right now. His heart is in the right place and all he wants is to bring this baby girl home and end some suffering, and I will not judge him for that. I can't even imagine the level of frustration he feels when he knows people are withholding vital information that can bring some since of peace to the hurting families and at least he is doing something to put more pressure on Misty. Like I said earlier if I was HaLeigh's mother, I wouldn't care less how he went about it............look at her pain and then at the photos of this missing angel ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 10:29:38 PM
FWIW, I will still probably send TES more money, but from now on I may be more specific what I want my donation to be used for, or not.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 10, 2009, 10:32:23 PM
I have sent Tim more than one donation and I feel sure it was not wasted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I will not talk bad about Tim Miller. He77 I will send him some more if he will let me "mother" Misty for a few hours.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 10:32:33 PM
TM admitted that he bankrolled the "vacation" that Misty went on. He was hoping that Misty would relax and divulge information. 1 minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

Is there an article or video stating this?  I'd like something other than a twitter post from HootSuite.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php#11


Anyway, still waiting and found the calls transcribed by CrimeSeekers:

This is what I was trying to do, but it went too fast:



AUDIO: TES's Tim Miller Talks About Misty's Friend Donna Brock and More
Posted: Friday, 09 October 2009 3:49PM
TJ Hart/Rozie Franco/FNN/CBS TV


More stunning audio is coming out from Texas EquuSearch Director Tim Miller, the man who coordinated some of the ground searches for missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma in February and who arranged for the child's stepmother to be polygraphed and hypnotized.

Miller spoke with 97.3 The Sky's news partner The Florida Radio Network. Rozie Franco conducted the interview and she asked Miller, " Who is Misty Cummings' friend, Donna Brock and what is she doing?"

Miller did not hesitate to answer.

Miller also stated in an earlier interview with FNN's Rozie Franco that he, too, was told early on that Misty wasn't at home the night Haleigh disappeared.

Misty appeared on the CBS Early Show Friday morning and started pointing fingers in the disappearance of young Haleigh. She said she feels 'someone on the other side of the family has Haleigh."



Quote:
Phone conversation (audio/transcribed) between Tim Miller and The Florida Radio Network, Rozie Franco:

Quote:
(Tim Miller on phone with Rozie Franco): PART ONE

Tim Miller: There are two things Misty is afraid of:

The polygraph clearly shows Misty knows where HaLeigh is and what happened to her. One of the questions was: Have you intentionally withheld any information about HaLeigh's disappearance? Misty said "no" and it was 99% deception. Another question was: Do you know where HaLeigh is? Misty answered "no" and 95% deception. She totally, totally blew that polygraph.

During the original search for HaLeigh, Lisa and Tim stopped in a little bar on a Sunday night. Girl in a bar wanted to talk to Tim Miller and told him that Misty wasn't home that night. Misty was at a party and was snorting oxycotin, smoking pot, and Misty and another girl had a threesome that night.

Girl in bar had gone over there to buy drugs and saw Misty there. Girl on probation and did not want to tell but showed Tim where the house was. Tim brought this up to Misty and Ronald six weeks ago in Orlando, they know the spot; it's their friends and this girl was telling the truth. Tim got LE involved and they questioned this girl but also said they aren't sure if it was the same night because people doing these drugs get things confused what day is what.

Tim told TN about it and the threesome. This is the kind of life they are living and having this 5-year-old child in, dragging this 5-year-old child around or leaving alone. All the thugs and drug addicts they hang out with. With what poor little Junior has to live with too. Disgrace to American society that two people can do this to two small children that will never have a chance in this world. All the money, all the resources, everything that has been spent on them and for the most part; two of the most irresponsible, immature people I've ever ever met.

Transcribed by Crimeseekers; Must give credit it copied. ©



Tim Miller speaking: PART TWO
...To go ahead and get Misty's nails done, to get her hair done, to take her to uh, Daytona, to take her to Universal Studios and stuff to try to get closer and closer and closer to her to get information so we could find HaLeigh. I was still spending money as of two days ago; wire transferred $300 more dollars to Donna. And we was doing everything that we could do so Donna could be a mother. So Donna was taking her to church, had a private meeting with the pastor. We felt as though the closer we could get her to the pastor and stuff, maybe she would go in there and confess to the pastor, uh, whatever the hell it was going to take for us to find Haleigh.

Rozie Franco: Right. Now Donna, is she one of your closest volunteers? Where is she....

Tim Miller: She is one that yeah, did a good job but she is one that would fit in as a mother that Misty never had. That somebody Misty could trust. You know, I mean nobody ever took Misty to the mall or nobody ever took Misty to get her nails done, nobody ever did any of that. So it's one of them things that you know, let's go ahead and play this Donna. You're gonna be the mother, I'll spend the damn money, work on this girl and everything and let's see if you can just go ahead and get her to break and say where in the hell little HaLeigh's at.

And when they put something together to that point that they know a jury's going to find her guilty and whether they'd have to take her in there first like they did Casey and take her in on child endangerment and false police reports, uh, and hold her under high bond or what. And you know what, here's what I truly believe from my heart, .... After spending as much time as I spent with those damn hillbillies is that number 1, she is scared to death to go to jail. She is scared to death to go to jail and I think the other reason she is not giving anything up is because of all these damn drug addicts thugs that she hangs out with, if she goes ahead and gives up what really happened, she fears for her life because uh, these these thugs'll kill her. ENDTranscribed by Crimeseekers; Must give credit if copied. ©

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 10, 2009, 10:32:56 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 

As someone I know and love once said......"I think Tim Miller would sell his soul to the devil, if he thought it would
help find a missing child."  I think that is true.  Nevermind his methods.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 10:36:31 PM

The same people that are twitting in this case are the same people that are in the various forums. 

Some info in forums are someone ones opinion, the same that is in the twitts and opinions do not have links. When I copy and paste a post from twitt, I post the link unless I forget.  There is info posted on twitt that is good info and then there is just gossip and scrabbling.

When there is misinfo such as Crystal being pulled over by LE, there will be/was  someone to come along and clear it up, just like in the forum, just like some of the mis-info in the media.

Not knocking the poster that posted here last week about Hank Croslin, and Tommy Croslin's name being heard on the LE scanner.  Others heard it also and posted it on twitter, but to my knowledge nothing ever came of it.

Today it is the twitter age, tomorrow it will be something else in the world of technology.

http://twitter.com/theearlyshow
http://twitter.com/myfoxorlando
http://twitter.com/docstoc
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM
http://twitter.com/TexasEquuSearchisher

Thanks Heart, that makes sense.  And helps to understand it better too. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 10, 2009, 10:38:52 PM
I have sent Tim more than one donation and I feel sure it was not wasted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I will not talk bad about Tim Miller. He77 I will send him some more if he will let me "mother" Misty for a few hours.
::MonkeyLaugh::  Me too, I'll bankroll you Darla for Tim if you'll "mother her" ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 10, 2009, 10:40:28 PM
I have sent Tim more than one donation and I feel sure it was not wasted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I will not talk bad about Tim Miller. He77 I will send him some more if he will let me "mother" Misty for a few hours.
::MonkeyLaugh::  Me too, I'll bankroll you Darla for Tim if you'll "mother her" ::MonkeyWink::

I think we could get up a good enough donation that he would do it lol. Someone needs to smack her up side the head.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 10, 2009, 10:41:34 PM
quotes from steph and misty from
http://stephww.wordpress.com/category/featured/

Quote
STEPH-When I asked about visiting law enforcement she detailed what that visit entailed.

MISTY-“I was there to tell them where I was staying, and tell them how to reach me. I was there for about an hour yesterday before I left for Orlando. I just listened as they talked and never asked me any questions.”

STEPH-What did they say to you?

MISTY-“I can’t talk about that right now.”


i was not aware misty, had to report in where she is, with the putnam LE

did i read that correctly, if i did misty has to tell putnam LE where she is, so i don't
think she would be going out of country


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: klaasend on October 10, 2009, 10:42:22 PM
Thanks Heart.  I sure hope there is a method in his "madness". 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 10, 2009, 10:45:39 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   




Thanks for sharing some of TM's history with me. I did research his organization when I got involved with the Caylee case and I was definitely impressed with all he has done. I don't know where he gets his staying power, having had to deal with all the opposition and slander he got from the Ant's I'm amazed that he has tackled the Haleigh case.  He seems determined and I hope all his efforts bring results.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 10:46:00 PM
Thanks Heart.  I sure hope there is a method in his "madness". 
We keep waiting klaas. When we think that we are almost there, some other madness pops up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sailcat on October 10, 2009, 10:53:16 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
My apologies, Strayze. I misspoke and did not express myself well. I'm truly sorry. -Sailcat

Sailcat.. am thinking that many heard what you were trying to say.  I do believe that some alcoholics and addicts, *in their moments of clarity*, do love their children and want to think that they are taking care of them.  Perhaps it's wishful thinking.  And yet, it's often not the reality.  Am thinking that those moments of clarity don't happen often enough, nor do they typically last very long.  Sigh. 


Very well put, Wyks! -Sailcat


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 10:53:44 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


Thanks for sharing some of TM's history with me. I did research his organization when I got involved with the Caylee case and I was definitely impressed with all he has done. I don't know where he gets his staying power, having had to deal with all the opposition and slander he got from the Ant's I'm amazed that he has tackled the Haleigh case.  He seems determined and I hope all his efforts bring results.......

You're welcome!  Honestly, when I saw TM sitting on that couch with those other three guys, (re the Ant's), and saw the look on his face .. like he'd rather be anywhere but there .. I was surprised to see him take on another missing person's case.  And who would have thought at the time that his experience with the Ant's would not be the worst he'd experience.. ??  Sigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 10, 2009, 10:56:36 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
My apologies, Strayze. I misspoke and did not express myself well. I'm truly sorry. -Sailcat

Sailcat.. am thinking that many heard what you were trying to say.  I do believe that some alcoholics and addicts, *in their moments of clarity*, do love their children and want to think that they are taking care of them.  Perhaps it's wishful thinking.  And yet, it's often not the reality.  Am thinking that those moments of clarity don't happen often enough, nor do they typically last very long.  Sigh. 


Very well put, Wyks! -Sailcat

Thanks, Sailcat!   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 10, 2009, 10:58:23 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


Thanks for sharing some of TM's history with me. I did research his organization when I got involved with the Caylee case and I was definitely impressed with all he has done. I don't know where he gets his staying power, having had to deal with all the opposition and slander he got from the Ant's I'm amazed that he has tackled the Haleigh case.  He seems determined and I hope all his efforts bring results.......

You're welcome!  Honestly, when I saw TM sitting on that couch with those other three guys, (re the Ant's), and saw the look on his face .. like he'd rather be anywhere but there .. I was surprised to see him take on another missing person's case.  And who would have thought at the time that his experience with the Ant's would not be the worst he'd experience.. ??   Sigh.

::MonkeyConfused:: Isn't that the truth, I'd have never thought anything would be worse-yet here we are


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sailcat on October 10, 2009, 11:00:43 PM
sailcat thank-you for your input. This is the way they live, their parents took drugs, so what is wrong if they do and have kids, I'm sure it is a very hard thing to break, that is what they are use to  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're exactly right, No Rose! The drug culture is extremely difficult to break out of. Having had my own problems with addiction many years ago, I understand how difficult it is to quit, as well as the way that drugs & alcohol can influence a person's decisions. But the culture that Misty and Ron belong to is waaaay over the edge in my opinion. Even most alcoholics and addicts have enough sense to take care of their children. -Sailcat

That is not true.  There are extremely self-centered and irresponsible alcoholics who do not provide even the minimal care for their families.  Alcoholics by definition are self-centered.  While he lived the high-life, my father left his family to fend for themselves, by "borrowing" from neighbors.  Our public school teachers took up collections for school supplies, band uniforms, school trips, etc.  I don't know how my sister and I would ever have made it without the kindness of our teachers.  BTW, my father's ego was way to huge to sign the applications for public assistance, so that left us in a double bind. It was this double bind situation that really was so lethal, leaving us for many years to come to deal with our profound disgust with our father, the self-centered alcoholic.
My apologies, Strayze. I misspoke and did not express myself well. I'm truly sorry. -Sailcat
It depends upon what one's line of work is, or in the alternative, one's experiences when expressing our concerns about addicts.  In my line of work, an addict is by definition self-cenbtered.  The degree of self-centeredness can vary I suppose.  The addict is entrapped in a hopeless struggle.  It takes some kind of help to become unaddicted.  It cannot be done alone.  One cannot simply think one's way back to the sober life.  I've seen marvelous recoveries where the former addict emerges the produtive empathetic human being that God intended.



.


Well, from where I sit (which is often around the "tables") we are self centered. But we also love our kids. When I was actively drinking, I really really wanted to take care of my kids - unfortunately sometimes I got in the way. I know nothing of drug addicts since I am not one. But as a recovered alcoholic, I know that we do get lost in our selves. We do hurt our family. We do not want to change until very late in the game, however. We do not know what we do is wrong. We really THINK we are functioning. We THINK we are taking care of our families. Not until we reach a turning point within ourselves (not from emotional appeals from our family or from a judge) do we change and see the falsity of our lives. Then we do need help from something bigger than ourselves. In my book, it is not an addiction counselor or a treatment center - by definition we are beyond human aid. We have to be ready to give up our will - which is not an easy thing.

I do not see Misty or Ron or any of the other players in this case ready to do that. All I see are spoiled little kids that expect Mommy and the world to fix what they screw up.
Great post! You know I used to attend meetings with a gentleman who believed that alcoholics & addicts in recovery are God's chosen people. ;-) I never bought into that line of thinking, but I can say for sure that I consider myself to be blessed. If I had not gotten clean & sober when my children were small, I shudder to think what my relationship with them might be now. -Sailcat


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 11:00:56 PM
Thanks Heart.  I sure hope there is a method in his "madness". 

AUDIO: Tim Miller Talks About Misty’s Gal Pal Donna Brock
http://hosted-media.podzinger.com/wsky/archive/WSKY_News/2009-10-09_Tim_Miller_on_Donna_Brock.mp3

AUDIO: Tim Miller Talks About Misty’s Possible Whereabouts the Night of the Abduction

http://hosted-media.podzinger.com/wsky/archive/WSKY_News/2009-10-09_Rozie_Franco_and_Tim_Miller.mp3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 10, 2009, 11:06:28 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


Thanks for sharing some of TM's history with me. I did research his organization when I got involved with the Caylee case and I was definitely impressed with all he has done. I don't know where he gets his staying power, having had to deal with all the opposition and slander he got from the Ant's I'm amazed that he has tackled the Haleigh case.  He seems determined and I hope all his efforts bring results.......

You're welcome!  Honestly, when I saw TM sitting on that couch with those other three guys, (re the Ant's), and saw the look on his face .. like he'd rather be anywhere but there .. I was surprised to see him take on another missing person's case.  And who would have thought at the time that his experience with the Ant's would not be the worst he'd experience.. ??   Sigh.

::MonkeyConfused:: Isn't that the truth, I'd have never thought anything would be worse-yet here we are



Marc Klaas has a name for all these people. He called the mother and stepfather of Robert Manwill a "filthy family". No truer words ever said for all these disgusting people.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: klaasend on October 10, 2009, 11:07:11 PM
Thanks Heart.  I sure hope there is a method in his "madness". 
We keep waiting klaas. When we think that we are almost there, some other madness pops up.

Yep


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 10, 2009, 11:09:29 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


Thanks for sharing some of TM's history with me. I did research his organization when I got involved with the Caylee case and I was definitely impressed with all he has done. I don't know where he gets his staying power, having had to deal with all the opposition and slander he got from the Ant's I'm amazed that he has tackled the Haleigh case.  He seems determined and I hope all his efforts bring results.......

You're welcome!  Honestly, when I saw TM sitting on that couch with those other three guys, (re the Ant's), and saw the look on his face .. like he'd rather be anywhere but there .. I was surprised to see him take on another missing person's case.  And who would have thought at the time that his experience with the Ant's would not be the worst he'd experience.. ??   Sigh.

::MonkeyConfused:: Isn't that the truth, I'd have never thought anything would be worse-yet here we are



Marc Klaas has a name for all these people. He called the mother and stepfather of Robert Manwill a "filthy family". No truer words ever said for all these disgusting people.......

 I agree and it breaks my heart every time to learn that the very person who is supposed to love you more than anyone is ultimately responsible for their child's death.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 10, 2009, 11:23:42 PM
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/doingLEjob4them.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on October 10, 2009, 11:32:54 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 
you are my friend miss Mae..so just hear me out.  what was he gonna' do?  buy her a sack?  maybe a fifth?  he can't do that and so he did what he could.  not that its gonna work but when you have nothing you do what you can do to get some info.  yeah, its cheesy but you can't put an org. out by doing what might actually work.  misty will talk it the right party favors are provided.  but TES can't provide them and still hang on to their rep.  he tried.  and am afraid it did nothing,  but hey, ya do what you can do. tim did what he could do.  IMO

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 10, 2009, 11:42:59 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 
you are my friend miss Mae..so just hear me out.  what was he gonna' do?  buy her a sack?  maybe a fifth?  he can't do that and so he did what he could.  not that its gonna work but when you have nothing you do what you can do to get some info.  yeah, its cheesy but you can't put an org. out by doing what might actually work.  misty will talk it the right party favors are provided.  but TES can't provide them and still hang on to their rep.  he tried.  and am afraid it did nothing,  but hey, ya do what you can do. tim did what he could do.  IMO

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

It would have been cheaper for TM to hire an escort service for FAB, take photographs and show M.  Get her mad and jealous
and it may be beneficial. She must have a temper...she did get man, loosing that man can't come easy to her, to someone else!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on October 10, 2009, 11:44:21 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 
you are my friend miss Mae..so just hear me out.  what was he gonna' do?  buy her a sack?  maybe a fifth?  he can't do that and so he did what he could.  not that its gonna work but when you have nothing you do what you can do to get some info.  yeah, its cheesy but you can't put an org. out by doing what might actually work.  misty will talk if the right party favors are provided.  but TES can't provide them and still hang on to their rep.  he tried.  and am afraid it did nothing,  but hey, ya do what you can do. tim did what he could do.  IMO

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 10, 2009, 11:48:16 PM
This financing to entertain and woo Misty by TM has me wondering why it was all over the Internet that it was being financed by a woman with a wealthy husband???
 
If this was in fact the case there would be no need for TM to send funds, so started that rumor?
 
IMO Mr. Miller should stick to searches for the missing. He's going to be 63 years old in a couple of months and now is no time to start injecting himself in cases other than searches.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on October 10, 2009, 11:49:10 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 
you are my friend miss Mae..so just hear me out.  what was he gonna' do?  buy her a sack?  maybe a fifth?  he can't do that and so he did what he could.  not that its gonna work but when you have nothing you do what you can do to get some info.  yeah, its cheesy but you can't put an org. out by doing what might actually work.  misty will talk it the right party favors are provided.  but TES can't provide them and still hang on to their rep.  he tried.  and am afraid it did nothing,  but hey, ya do what you can do. tim did what he could do.  IMO

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

It would have been cheaper for TM to hire an escort service for FAB, take photographs and show M.  Get her mad and jealous
and it may be beneficial. She must have a temper...she did get man, loosing that man can't come easy to her, to someone else!
do what? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 10, 2009, 11:49:20 PM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 
you are my friend miss Mae..so just hear me out.  what was he gonna' do?  buy her a sack?  maybe a fifth?  he can't do that and so he did what he could.  not that its gonna work but when you have nothing you do what you can do to get some info.  yeah, its cheesy but you can't put an org. out by doing what might actually work.  misty will talk it the right party favors are provided.  but TES can't provide them and still hang on to their rep.  he tried.  and am afraid it did nothing,  but hey, ya do what you can do. tim did what he could do.  IMO

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

I know you are my friend and did you hear ME out. Maybe you didn't read all my posts.  I am not trying to crucify Tim. I respect him, I feel for him, I will still donate to Tes with limits. But I cannot help but have misgivings about this association with Donna and her judgement or lack thereof. It doesn't give me  a warm and fuzzy feeling that giving Misty a wild time in Orlando was going to get anything out of her. Hopefully it did and we just don't know yet. I hope there's a break, I truely do. But I did have a  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked:: moment hearing this whole thing laid out. And the laying out of what he thinks of her and the Satsuma bunch is surely not going to gain any favors from Misty. So I'm still  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on October 11, 2009, 12:02:01 AM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 
you are my friend miss Mae..so just hear me out.  what was he gonna' do?  buy her a sack?  maybe a fifth?  he can't do that and so he did what he could.  not that its gonna work but when you have nothing you do what you can do to get some info.  yeah, its cheesy but you can't put an org. out by doing what might actually work.  misty will talk it the right party favors are provided.  but TES can't provide them and still hang on to their rep.  he tried.  and am afraid it did nothing,  but hey, ya do what you can do. tim did what he could do.  IMO

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

I know you are my friend and did you hear ME out. Maybe you didn't read all my posts.  I am not trying to crucify Tim. I respect him, I feel for him, I will still donate to Tes with limits. But I cannot help but have misgivings about this association with Donna and her judgement or lack thereof. It doesn't give me  a warm and fuzzy feeling that giving Misty a wild time in Orlando was going to get anything out of her. Hopefully it did and we just don't know yet. I hope there's a break, I truely do. But I did have a  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked:: moment hearing this whole thing laid out. And the laying out of what he thinks of her and the Satsuma bunch is surely not going to gain any favors from Misty. So I'm still  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked:: 
i don't have the warm fuzzies either. and i don't think a break will come out of it.  but as far as Mistys time in orlando..i have a feeling that it was 'lame' for her.  what will make her talk...maybe a little meth, some booze and maybe some pot.  oh, i forgot the porn.  she lives on the base of humanity.  its all she knows.  tim can't do that.  to provide that would kill everything he worked for.  thats what im trying to get at.  i see what he was trying to do.  but he would have to put himself and his org in a deep hole to get to the mind-set of
MC..JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 11, 2009, 12:16:26 AM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 
you are my friend miss Mae..so just hear me out.  what was he gonna' do?  buy her a sack?  maybe a fifth?  he can't do that and so he did what he could.  not that its gonna work but when you have nothing you do what you can do to get some info.  yeah, its cheesy but you can't put an org. out by doing what might actually work.  misty will talk it the right party favors are provided.  but TES can't provide them and still hang on to their rep.  he tried.  and am afraid it did nothing,  but hey, ya do what you can do. tim did what he could do.  IMO

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

I know you are my friend and did you hear ME out. Maybe you didn't read all my posts.  I am not trying to crucify Tim. I respect him, I feel for him, I will still donate to Tes with limits. But I cannot help but have misgivings about this association with Donna and her judgement or lack thereof. It doesn't give me  a warm and fuzzy feeling that giving Misty a wild time in Orlando was going to get anything out of her. Hopefully it did and we just don't know yet. I hope there's a break, I truely do. But I did have a  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked:: moment hearing this whole thing laid out. And the laying out of what he thinks of her and the Satsuma bunch is surely not going to gain any favors from Misty. So I'm still  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked:: 
i don't have the warm fuzzies either. and i don't think a break will come out of it.  but as far as Mistys time in orlando..i have a feeling that it was 'lame' for her.  what will make her talk...maybe a little meth, some booze and maybe some pot.  oh, i forgot the porn.  she lives on the base of humanity.  its all she knows.  tim can't do that.  to provide that would kill everything he worked for.  thats what im trying to get at.  i see what he was trying to do.  but he would have to put himself and his org in a deep hole to get to the mind-set of
MC..JMO

Dont forget the Ecstasy ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 12:20:21 AM
i don't have the warm fuzzies either. and i don't think a break will come out of it.  but as far as Mistys time in orlando..i have a feeling that it was 'lame' for her.  what will make her talk...maybe a little meth, some booze and maybe some pot.  oh, i forgot the porn.  she lives on the base of humanity.  its all she knows.  tim can't do that.  to provide that would kill everything he worked for.  thats what im trying to get at.  i see what he was trying to do.  but he would have to put himself and his org in a deep hole to get to the mind-set of
MC..JMO

MAMA, with what we have heard, Tim knew from the get-go what fueled Misty. We heard his own words. He's the one that said he knew from the first Misty wasn't home that night and about the threesome. He knew about the drugs.  As far as I can see, she was getting that and more even after Haleigh came up missing and it hasn't broken her one iota. He didn't have to give her what she needed, she was already getting it. Painting her toenails and skipping around in FantasyWorld with someone she believed was a wild child herself, wasn't going to break her. I am not questioning Tim's motives, I am only questioning the method.

The only thing I can see that might ever break Misty is to throw some heavy duty child endangerment/abuse/everything but the kitchen sink charges on her and a big bond like her mom's and make her sweat. If she knows anything, she may bargain. If she doesn't, oh well, looks like she's going away. That's the only thing that will break her because she is afraid of Jail. Even Tim said that.

Personally, I think there are a few more people involved in this that ought to get the same treatment. JMO

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on October 11, 2009, 12:21:47 AM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 
you are my friend miss Mae..so just hear me out.  what was he gonna' do?  buy her a sack?  maybe a fifth?  he can't do that and so he did what he could.  not that its gonna work but when you have nothing you do what you can do to get some info.  yeah, its cheesy but you can't put an org. out by doing what might actually work.  misty will talk it the right party favors are provided.  but TES can't provide them and still hang on to their rep.  he tried.  and am afraid it did nothing,  but hey, ya do what you can do. tim did what he could do.  IMO

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

I know you are my friend and did you hear ME out. Maybe you didn't read all my posts.  I am not trying to crucify Tim. I respect him, I feel for him, I will still donate to Tes with limits. But I cannot help but have misgivings about this association with Donna and her judgement or lack thereof. It doesn't give me  a warm and fuzzy feeling that giving Misty a wild time in Orlando was going to get anything out of her. Hopefully it did and we just don't know yet. I hope there's a break, I truely do. But I did have a  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked:: moment hearing this whole thing laid out. And the laying out of what he thinks of her and the Satsuma bunch is surely not going to gain any favors from Misty. So I'm still  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked:: 
i don't have the warm fuzzies either. and i don't think a break will come out of it.  but as far as Mistys time in orlando..i have a feeling that it was 'lame' for her.  what will make her talk...maybe a little meth, some booze and maybe some pot.  oh, i forgot the porn.  she lives on the base of humanity.  its all she knows.  tim can't do that.  to provide that would kill everything he worked for.  thats what im trying to get at.  i see what he was trying to do.  but he would have to put himself and his org in a deep hole to get to the mind-set of
MC..JMO

Dont forget the Ecstasy ::MonkeyDevil2::
chit ::MonkeyHaHa:: and the oxycodone.... (ya really think they did X (thats sumthin' ya got to buy, not like the oxy ya can just steal from folks  ::MonkeyDevil2::)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on October 11, 2009, 12:34:02 AM
i don't have the warm fuzzies either. and i don't think a break will come out of it.  but as far as Mistys time in orlando..i have a feeling that it was 'lame' for her.  what will make her talk...maybe a little meth, some booze and maybe some pot.  oh, i forgot the porn.  she lives on the base of humanity.  its all she knows.  tim can't do that.  to provide that would kill everything he worked for.  thats what im trying to get at.  i see what he was trying to do.  but he would have to put himself and his org in a deep hole to get to the mind-set of
MC..JMO

MAMA, with what we have heard, Tim knew from the get-go what fueled Misty. We heard his own words. He's the one that said he knew from the first Misty wasn't home that night and about the threesome. He knew about the drugs.  As far as I can see, she was getting that and more even after Haleigh came up missing and it hasn't broken her one iota. He didn't have to give her what she needed, she was already getting it. Painting her toenails and skipping around in FantasyWorld with someone she believed was a wild child herself, wasn't going to break her. I am not questioning Tim's motives, I am only questioning the method.

The only thing I can see that might ever break Misty is to throw some heavy duty child endangerment/abuse/everything but the kitchen sink charges on her and a big bond like her mom's and make her sweat. If she knows anything, she may bargain. If she doesn't, oh well, looks like she's going away. That's the only thing that will break her because she is afraid of Jail. Even Tim said that.

Personally, I think there are a few more people involved in this that ought to get the same treatment. JMO

 
i get ya miss Mae.  all i can think is tim is a good man.  he thinks she is a lost girl and, i may be wrong, but, he looks at her cause she is around his daughters age.  he thinks she needs help.  does she?  i flip flop every day.  Misty is a sly one, but so is ronny.  and i really don't buy the keep your friends close (and has their been ANYONE of Ron's PEERS (co-workers, friends, ect) to stick up for him, but you enemies closer (like in your bed).  i do agree Misty may be the key, but someone else is in control of the lock.  why doesn't ron have any friends?  all he has is x lovers/babies mommas.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 11, 2009, 12:55:58 AM
i don't have the warm fuzzies either. and i don't think a break will come out of it.  but as far as Mistys time in orlando..i have a feeling that it was 'lame' for her.  what will make her talk...maybe a little meth, some booze and maybe some pot.  oh, i forgot the porn.  she lives on the base of humanity.  its all she knows.  tim can't do that.  to provide that would kill everything he worked for.  thats what im trying to get at.  i see what he was trying to do.  but he would have to put himself and his org in a deep hole to get to the mind-set of
MC..JMO

MAMA, with what we have heard, Tim knew from the get-go what fueled Misty. We heard his own words. He's the one that said he knew from the first Misty wasn't home that night and about the threesome. He knew about the drugs.  As far as I can see, she was getting that and more even after Haleigh came up missing and it hasn't broken her one iota. He didn't have to give her what she needed, she was already getting it. Painting her toenails and skipping around in FantasyWorld with someone she believed was a wild child herself, wasn't going to break her. I am not questioning Tim's motives, I am only questioning the method.

The only thing I can see that might ever break Misty is to throw some heavy duty child endangerment/abuse/everything but the kitchen sink charges on her and a big bond like her mom's and make her sweat. If she knows anything, she may bargain. If she doesn't, oh well, looks like she's going away. That's the only thing that will break her because she is afraid of Jail. Even Tim said that.

Personally, I think there are a few more people involved in this that ought to get the same treatment. JMO

 
Thank you, Fannie, for expressing what I have failed to express for the last few days! Misty has been coddled and pampered for the past 8 months. She needs some tough love,IMO. I will continue to donate to TES because I believe in the work of that fine organization. I just think that Tim has used poor judgement,especially with "Mother Donna." I do not think that the end justifies the means. I also think nothing is gained when you reduce yourself to the level of a criminal to relate to them. The old addage of lying with dogs and getting up with fleas comes to mind.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 01:08:13 AM
TM admitted that he bankrolled the "vacation" that Misty went on. He was hoping that Misty would relax and divulge information. 1 minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

Is there an article or video stating this?  I'd like something other than a twitter post from HootSuite.

Exactly, we have no idea who HootSuite is for one, news outlets arent reporting it from TM yet & I'm sure TM will make any statements he needs to himself or thru his attorney since he has never shied away from anything before.   We should remember that Misty was in the Orlando area twice if not three times in the past few months so that twitter comment is too vague & not from a known reliable source.  I'd like to hear the entire scope versus a gossip chain comment - JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 01:12:55 AM
i don't have the warm fuzzies either. and i don't think a break will come out of it.  but as far as Mistys time in orlando..i have a feeling that it was 'lame' for her.  what will make her talk...maybe a little meth, some booze and maybe some pot.  oh, i forgot the porn.  she lives on the base of humanity.  its all she knows.  tim can't do that.  to provide that would kill everything he worked for.  thats what im trying to get at.  i see what he was trying to do.  but he would have to put himself and his org in a deep hole to get to the mind-set of
MC..JMO

MAMA, with what we have heard, Tim knew from the get-go what fueled Misty. We heard his own words. He's the one that said he knew from the first Misty wasn't home that night and about the threesome. He knew about the drugs.  As far as I can see, she was getting that and more even after Haleigh came up missing and it hasn't broken her one iota. He didn't have to give her what she needed, she was already getting it. Painting her toenails and skipping around in FantasyWorld with someone she believed was a wild child herself, wasn't going to break her. I am not questioning Tim's motives, I am only questioning the method.

The only thing I can see that might ever break Misty is to throw some heavy duty child endangerment/abuse/everything but the kitchen sink charges on her and a big bond like her mom's and make her sweat. If she knows anything, she may bargain. If she doesn't, oh well, looks like she's going away. That's the only thing that will break her because she is afraid of Jail. Even Tim said that.

Personally, I think there are a few more people involved in this that ought to get the same treatment. JMO

 
Thank you, Fannie, for expressing what I have failed to express for the last few days! Misty has been coddled and pampered for the past 8 months. She needs some tough love,IMO. I will continue to donate to TES because I believe in the work of that fine organization. I just think that Tim has used poor judgement,especially with "Mother Donna." I do not think that the end justifies the means. I also think nothing is gained when you reduce yourself to the level of a criminal to relate to them. The old addage of lying with dogs and getting up with fleas comes to mind.

You are welcome Blue Monkey, as I was already stating what my gut and my heart were telling me. I kow Tim means well from the bottom of his heart. I wish there was a way to lift his troubles, but he appears to be a softhearted tender man that is driven, and he should be keeping better care of himself. He has seen the worst. The very worst of what man can do to another person. I hope he will see nothing out in the world any worse than this, but I somehow know he wii, and I wonder how much he can take?

With that I am going to say goodnight. I have been fighting a very sore throat and a mild fever all day. But I have enjoyed being with all my Monkey Sisters and Brothers tonight.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 01:19:16 AM
Fanny - hope you feel better soon! 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 11, 2009, 01:26:52 AM
Fanny - hope you feel better soon! 


Ditto. ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 01:32:39 AM
Thank you both Wykes and Bluemonkey. ::MonkeyAngel::

Just as I was about to turn off the night I had one more thought. I think I remember Misty saying in one of her interviews after the "road rage" incident that they were heading back to Satsuma when it happened. Does anyone on know if they showed up that day in Satsuma? I believe it would have been on Thursday.

Now it is good night to all.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 01:35:59 AM
Well I just caught up...to me his "madness" is a helluva lot more than quite a few are doing combined, unorthodox or not including that local mess of a sheriff's dept.   After 9 months & nothing concrete, Im not gonna beat him up for trying - its actually caused quite a bit to transpire & I suspect the walls are closing in tighter.   I cant agree with everything on how it was dealt with BUT Im not going to criticize his motives, we all should know by now that his intentions have always been to bring closure to these horrific cases, he wants to find Haleigh & bring her home as we all do.    To tell you the truth this mother would have been a bit more "persuasive" to get answers  ::MonkeyWink::   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 01:57:59 AM
Thank you both Wykes and Bluemonkey. ::MonkeyAngel::

Just as I was about to turn off the night I had one more thought. I think I remember Misty saying in one of her interviews after the "road rage" incident that they were heading back to Satsuma when it happened. Does anyone on know if they showed up that day in Satsuma? I believe it would have been on Thursday.

Now it is good night to all.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I dont see how she had time & since we watched her in the airport to get to NYC for her interview with The Early Show.   Speaking of which, I was rather surprised to see she was alone at the airport, all things considered.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 02:12:07 AM
Thank you both Wykes and Bluemonkey. ::MonkeyAngel::

Just as I was about to turn off the night I had one more thought. I think I remember Misty saying in one of her interviews after the "road rage" incident that they were heading back to Satsuma when it happened. Does anyone on know if they showed up that day in Satsuma? I believe it would have been on Thursday.

Now it is good night to all.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I read that they were headed to see Misty's lawyer.

She apparently did not sign any divorce papers, and her lawyer stopped representing her on Friday, so I don't think they made it to the lawyer's office that day.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 02:14:09 AM
Thank you both Wykes and Bluemonkey. ::MonkeyAngel::

Just as I was about to turn off the night I had one more thought. I think I remember Misty saying in one of her interviews after the "road rage" incident that they were heading back to Satsuma when it happened. Does anyone on know if they showed up that day in Satsuma? I believe it would have been on Thursday.

Now it is good night to all.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I dont see how she had time & since we watched her in the airport to get to NYC for her interview with The Early Show.   Speaking of which, I was rather surprised to see she was alone at the airport, all things considered.

She wasn't alone at the airport. Donna Brock was there with her.

She is pictured in the airport video right at then end, waiting on Misty.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ospainter on October 11, 2009, 02:15:00 AM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/misty-cummings-what-really-happened/

MISTY CUMMINGS; WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
By Steph

I’m not even going to address the accusations that have been made over the last few days. They are truly so outlandish that they don’t dignify a response. What I am going to do, is what I was planning on doing all along, is tell exactly what has been going on behind the scenes for the last week in the Haleigh Cummings investigation. However, we all know now that the plan got foiled by a little road rage incident, that has damaged this investigation irreparably

Snipped

OS



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 02:17:47 AM
Thank you both Wykes and Bluemonkey. ::MonkeyAngel::

Just as I was about to turn off the night I had one more thought. I think I remember Misty saying in one of her interviews after the "road rage" incident that they were heading back to Satsuma when it happened. Does anyone on know if they showed up that day in Satsuma? I believe it would have been on Thursday.

Now it is good night to all.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I dont see how she had time & since we watched her in the airport to get to NYC for her interview with The Early Show.   Speaking of which, I was rather surprised to see she was alone at the airport, all things considered.

She wasn't alone at the airport. Donna Brock was there with her.

She is pictured in the airport video right at then end, waiting on Misty.

Video here: http://www.wesh.com/video/21240733/index.html

Screen capture below:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Image177.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 11, 2009, 02:37:46 AM
Well I just finished catching up, was gone most of the day and well night to..lol.........I know this has been talked to death tonight about Tim Miller and his choice to put this Donna woman in the position he did with Misty.....Im sure he was trying to get some information from Misty in any way he possibly could, but also Im thinking that Donna knew exactly what he wanted her to do,  Some say Misty has been handled with kid gloves and needs someone to come down hard on her for her to tell anything, but...did anyone stop to think that maybe Tim just might have had other things in mind other then getting info, I dont think coming down hard on her would do anygood either but guess what, What if she tried to run......Donna would  be there to watch her and keep up with her whereabouts........What if she said something to someone on the phone thinking she was alone,  guess what maybe they had something installed on her phone where they could listen in....what if she talked in her sleep.....maybe they have recording set up in her room........we dont know what all they were doing...we dont know what kind of training Donna might have........There's more then one way to skin a cat.....and Ill bet Tim is using every way he knows.......Some say he didnt use his best Judgement in doing this or using the person he did for the job......Well, I think he was doing a good job and using the best person he felt was right for what needed to be done......If he got one clue from doing this, then I say...Go Tim, thats one more clue then they had, .......When I donate money to Tim, I donate that money to help a missing child and if this was the only way Tim could think of to help this missing child then I say....use my money to do it........if you need more Ill donate more......Not doing anything isnt bringing HaLeigh home, you may as well try something ....anything......if it works I say more power to him, if it doesnt , then lets go on to something else,,,,( which Im sure he will).......I put "No Price" on getting Information on where a missing child might be......none.......if HaLeigh was my child I would say Thank You Tim for trying something .....anything.....at least you are trying.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 02:40:47 AM
Thanks OS~I am going to post the entire article for those who can't see the link.............


« MISTY CUMMINGS EXCLUSIVE: ”I feel like this has all been a game, and I have been played.”MISTY CUMMINGS; WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
By Steph
I’m not even going to address the accusations that have been made over the last few days. They are truly so outlandish that they don’t dignify a response. What I am going to do, is what I was planning on doing all along, is tell exactly what has been going on behind the scenes for the last week in the Haleigh Cummings investigation. However, we all know now that the plan got foiled by a little road rage incident, that has damaged this investigation irreparably.

Back on Sept 20th, Tim Miller asked me to come to Orlando to film Misty Cummings’ hypnosis and voice analysis that she had requested to have done. Although I was not paid, I was permitted to report (as I did on this blog) my observations of the tapings. Tim also flew in TJ Ward, the Voice analysis expert and he needed someone to pick TJ up at the airport. Because Texas Equusearch (TE) operates with very little budget, they rely on volunteers. Tim called his TE member closest to the airport and asked her to pick up TJ…that member was Donna Brock. Donna arrived into Satsuma at Ronald’s aunts’ house (where the hypnosis and voice analysis was being conducted) with TJ. This is the first time I had ever met her. She had to wait with TJ until he was done with his test to return him to the Orlando Airport (he’s from Georgia). It was a long day for all involved, and there was a lot of waiting around. Misty took a liking to Donna as they chatted causally, we got set up for the interviews. The two even slipped out to pick up food for everyone (Ronald, Teresa, Ronalds’ aunt, Jr. and a few other family members were all there)

The week before this, Tim Miller had an intimate conversation with Ronald Cummings in the bedroom he shared with Misty in his grandmothers’ trailer just down the road. They talked in detail about their thoughts of Misty’s involvement in the case. Tim asked Ronald why he married Misty. Ronald responded “I have to keep her close till I find out what happened to Haleigh”. It’s what happened next that frightened Miller. Ronald pulled a gun out of the closet, an assault rifle with 2 clips, each clip holding 32 bullets. Ronald looked at Miller and said “When I find out where Haleigh’s at, I will blow the teeth out of the back of her head, and then I’ll do this…” He then got on his knees, put the butt of the rifle on of the gun on the floor and the leaned over and put the barrel in his mouth. There was no “IF” she had anything to do with it, and Miller knew that Ronald was serious. That he would kill Misty and then take his own life. It was at that point he knew they had to get Misty out of there, or she would end up dead.

After the law enforcement received copies of the polygraph, the voice analysis and hypnosis, I wrote about it on my blog and the media picked up the story and it blew up (I cleared with Miller and LE that it was ok to release the tapes to the media). When the story blew up, so did tempers in Satsuma and Miller knew he had to get Misty out of there immediately. Donna seemed liked the logical, choice; Misty trusted her, she is a mother and a grandmother, and most importantly she lived close enough and was willing to take Misty in. “We may have to save Misty’s life” Miller told Donna. And in an instant, Donna was off to get Misty and bring her to safety in Orlando.

Miller knew in the back of his mind Donna now has an opportunity to get close to Misty to get more info to lead to Haleigh. So did law enforcement. Miller also knew she wasn’t an expert, just one of his volunteers going above and beyond her call of duty, and he worried about that. Law enforcement was well aware of exactly where Misty was and what was going on at all times. This is what they wanted, Misty away from Satsuma, the trailer park, her family Ronald’s’ family, and most importantly away from Ronald.

In Mark Fuhrman’s new book “The Murder Business” he writes in detail about the Melinda Duckett case, the young Florida mother of Trenton Duckett, who went missing in 2006. After appearing on Nancy Grace’s show, Melinda committed suicide.

“With Melinda Ducketts’ suicide, investigators lost their best chance of finding Trenton” says Fuhrman. “We have to avoid that same situation at any cost” says Tim Miller “If anything tragic happens to Misty now, any knowledge of what happened to Haleigh dies too”. “You can’t put a price tag on finding a child.”

Over the next month Misty and Donna grew close. Miller wired money into Donnas’ account on several occasions to cover Misty’s living expenses, right up until 4 days ago, when he wired her 300.00 dollars, all for the purpose of keeping her safe, keeping her away from Satsuma and keeping her talking.

“Donna made incredible sacrifices. She put her life on hold, stopped spending time with her own family, including her daughter and new born grand baby” said Miller. ‘This has been very stressful for her” Tim Miller and Donna both made periodic reports to Law Enforcement on Misty’s whereabouts and activities.

As any good journalist should, I reached out to Donna to try and get comments and information on Misty. Donna and Misty were tight lipped at first, but they read my blog nightly, and as they watched the media bashing Misty on TV every night, they grew to trust me. When the divorce news broke, Misty wanted to respond to what was being said. So she granted me an interview on the phone and I posted it on the blog.

That night a someone from CBS “The Early Show” read my blog and emailed me immediately to see if I could get them an interview with Misty. I freelance for CBS so when called so they called; I wanted to help them out. I knew I didn’t have the resources to fly to Orlando and conduct the interview myself, just to post it on my blog. I told Misty of CBS’s interview request and she agreed to it. CBS arranged to fly her up, not first class as rumored last night on Nancy Grace, but in coach. It is Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) in the media to fly a guest in and put them in a hotel to tape an interview. Donna came along because Misty is a minor and she needed to be accompanied by an adult. I notified law enforcement that she was coming to NY to appear on “The Early Show and I gave them her outgoing and return flight and hotel info so they knew where she was. Law Enforcement requested that we don’t change her return ticket to any other state than Florida.

Then the Road rage incident happened. Donna and Misty called me right after it happened because we had been in constant contact. A woman cut them off on the road and they (both) gave her the finger. A stupid decision on both their parts, bad judgment whatever you want to call it, in that second everything changed. Up until that point Donna and Misty had remained quiet, flying under the radar, so to speak, and Misty trusted Donna. Apparently the woman who cut them off recognized Misty and called police claiming they pointed a gun. Next thing Donna and Misty are pulled over and find themselves face down on the ground with guns in their backs. The situation quickly diffused when the police realized the report was false. The media went nuts, Donnas’ cover was blown, the woman turned up on Nancy Grace. What an opportunist, she should be ashamed of herself for lying to police. Donna and Misty realize they were wrong and it was foolish. Then the armchairs investigators tried to connect dots that weren’t connectable. And none of this had anything to do with finding Haleigh. Why would Nancy Grace waste an hour on this? I decided not to even right a post about it. It was irrelevant. But now Misty learned that Donna was not her friend.

The CBS interview was important because the more people talk, the more they reveal. Every time Misty tells the same story, police can look for inconsistencies. Something different, perhaps a clue. That’s why it was so important to get Misty to tell “her side of the story” And perhaps from what I hear, it may her last interview (part 2 will air on CBS “Early Show on Monday) After the interview aired, Misty’s attorney dropped her as a client.

Tonight as I write this, Donna has dropped Misty off in Satsuma. Donna will meet again with law enforcement on Monday to tell her the last of what she has learned. Donna has been very tight lipped about her conversations with Misty, at least with me. At least for now. The next few days should be interesting, now that misty is back in the lions den. I will write more about my observations and conversations I had with Misty while in NY with her.

I asked Tim Miller if his organization will continue to look for Haleigh “I’m not done with this case; I’m done with these people. But any resources I have will be available to help find Haleigh. ‘I will continue any efforts I can to end the search for Haleigh Cummings.”

I hope this begins to clear up a few things and connect the dots for everyone that has been following this case. There is alot more coming. Please stay tuned


 ::MonkeyEek::

I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 02:51:27 AM
Forgot the link:


http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/misty-cummings-what-really-happened/

Thanks OS~I am going to post the entire article for those who can't see the link.............


« MISTY CUMMINGS EXCLUSIVE: ”I feel like this has all been a game, and I have been played.”MISTY CUMMINGS; WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
By Steph
I’m not even going to address the accusations that have been made over the last few days. They are truly so outlandish that they don’t dignify a response. What I am going to do, is what I was planning on doing all along, is tell exactly what has been going on behind the scenes for the last week in the Haleigh Cummings investigation. However, we all know now that the plan got foiled by a little road rage incident, that has damaged this investigation irreparably.

Back on Sept 20th, Tim Miller asked me to come to Orlando to film Misty Cummings’ hypnosis and voice analysis that she had requested to have done. Although I was not paid, I was permitted to report (as I did on this blog) my observations of the tapings. Tim also flew in TJ Ward, the Voice analysis expert and he needed someone to pick TJ up at the airport. Because Texas Equusearch (TE) operates with very little budget, they rely on volunteers. Tim called his TE member closest to the airport and asked her to pick up TJ…that member was Donna Brock. Donna arrived into Satsuma at Ronald’s aunts’ house (where the hypnosis and voice analysis was being conducted) with TJ. This is the first time I had ever met her. She had to wait with TJ until he was done with his test to return him to the Orlando Airport (he’s from Georgia). It was a long day for all involved, and there was a lot of waiting around. Misty took a liking to Donna as they chatted causally, we got set up for the interviews. The two even slipped out to pick up food for everyone (Ronald, Teresa, Ronalds’ aunt, Jr. and a few other family members were all there)

The week before this, Tim Miller had an intimate conversation with Ronald Cummings in the bedroom he shared with Misty in his grandmothers’ trailer just down the road. They talked in detail about their thoughts of Misty’s involvement in the case. Tim asked Ronald why he married Misty. Ronald responded “I have to keep her close till I find out what happened to Haleigh”. It’s what happened next that frightened Miller. Ronald pulled a gun out of the closet, an assault rifle with 2 clips, each clip holding 32 bullets. Ronald looked at Miller and said “When I find out where Haleigh’s at, I will blow the teeth out of the back of her head, and then I’ll do this…” He then got on his knees, put the butt of the rifle on of the gun on the floor and the leaned over and put the barrel in his mouth. There was no “IF” she had anything to do with it, and Miller knew that Ronald was serious. That he would kill Misty and then take his own life. It was at that point he knew they had to get Misty out of there, or she would end up dead.

After the law enforcement received copies of the polygraph, the voice analysis and hypnosis, I wrote about it on my blog and the media picked up the story and it blew up (I cleared with Miller and LE that it was ok to release the tapes to the media). When the story blew up, so did tempers in Satsuma and Miller knew he had to get Misty out of there immediately. Donna seemed liked the logical, choice; Misty trusted her, she is a mother and a grandmother, and most importantly she lived close enough and was willing to take Misty in. “We may have to save Misty’s life” Miller told Donna. And in an instant, Donna was off to get Misty and bring her to safety in Orlando.

Miller knew in the back of his mind Donna now has an opportunity to get close to Misty to get more info to lead to Haleigh. So did law enforcement. Miller also knew she wasn’t an expert, just one of his volunteers going above and beyond her call of duty, and he worried about that. Law enforcement was well aware of exactly where Misty was and what was going on at all times. This is what they wanted, Misty away from Satsuma, the trailer park, her family Ronald’s’ family, and most importantly away from Ronald.
In Mark Fuhrman’s new book “The Murder Business” he writes in detail about the Melinda Duckett case, the young Florida mother of Trenton Duckett, who went missing in 2006. After appearing on Nancy Grace’s show, Melinda committed suicide.

“With Melinda Ducketts’ suicide, investigators lost their best chance of finding Trenton” says Fuhrman. “We have to avoid that same situation at any cost” says Tim Miller “If anything tragic happens to Misty now, any knowledge of what happened to Haleigh dies too”. “You can’t put a price tag on finding a child.”   ::MonkeyAngel::

Over the next month Misty and Donna grew close. Miller wired money into Donnas’ account on several occasions to cover Misty’s living expenses, right up until 4 days ago, when he wired her 300.00 dollars, all for the purpose of keeping her safe, keeping her away from Satsuma and keeping her talking.

“Donna made incredible sacrifices. She put her life on hold, stopped spending time with her own family, including her daughter and new born grand baby” said Miller. ‘This has been very stressful for her” Tim Miller and Donna both made periodic reports to Law Enforcement on Misty’s whereabouts and activities.

As any good journalist should, I reached out to Donna to try and get comments and information on Misty. Donna and Misty were tight lipped at first, but they read my blog nightly, and as they watched the media bashing Misty on TV every night, they grew to trust me. When the divorce news broke, Misty wanted to respond to what was being said. So she granted me an interview on the phone and I posted it on the blog.

That night a someone from CBS “The Early Show” read my blog and emailed me immediately to see if I could get them an interview with Misty. I freelance for CBS so when called so they called; I wanted to help them out. I knew I didn’t have the resources to fly to Orlando and conduct the interview myself, just to post it on my blog. I told Misty of CBS’s interview request and she agreed to it. CBS arranged to fly her up, not first class as rumored last night on Nancy Grace, but in coach. It is Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) in the media to fly a guest in and put them in a hotel to tape an interview. Donna came along because Misty is a minor and she needed to be accompanied by an adult. I notified law enforcement that she was coming to NY to appear on “The Early Show and I gave them her outgoing and return flight and hotel info so they knew where she was. Law Enforcement requested that we don’t change her return ticket to any other state than Florida.

Then the Road rage incident happened. Donna and Misty called me right after it happened because we had been in constant contact. A woman cut them off on the road and they (both) gave her the finger. A stupid decision on both their parts, bad judgment whatever you want to call it, in that second everything changed. Up until that point Donna and Misty had remained quiet, flying under the radar, so to speak, and Misty trusted Donna. Apparently the woman who cut them off recognized Misty and called police claiming they pointed a gun. Next thing Donna and Misty are pulled over and find themselves face down on the ground with guns in their backs. The situation quickly diffused when the police realized the report was false. The media went nuts, Donnas’ cover was blown, the woman turned up on Nancy Grace. What an opportunist, she should be ashamed of herself for lying to police. Donna and Misty realize they were wrong and it was foolish. Then the armchairs investigators tried to connect dots that weren’t connectable. And none of this had anything to do with finding Haleigh. Why would Nancy Grace waste an hour on this? I decided not to even right a post about it. It was irrelevant. But now Misty learned that Donna was not her friend.

The CBS interview was important because the more people talk, the more they reveal. Every time Misty tells the same story, police can look for inconsistencies. Something different, perhaps a clue. That’s why it was so important to get Misty to tell “her side of the story” And perhaps from what I hear, it may her last interview (part 2 will air on CBS “Early Show on Monday) After the interview aired, Misty’s attorney dropped her as a client.

Tonight as I write this, Donna has dropped Misty off in Satsuma. Donna will meet again with law enforcement on Monday to tell her the last of what she has learned. Donna has been very tight lipped about her conversations with Misty, at least with me. At least for now. The next few days should be interesting, now that misty is back in the lions den. I will write more about my observations and conversations I had with Misty while in NY with her.

I asked Tim Miller if his organization will continue to look for Haleigh “I’m not done with this case; I’m done with these people. But any resources I have will be available to help find Haleigh. ‘I will continue any efforts I can to end the search for Haleigh Cummings.”

I hope this begins to clear up a few things and connect the dots for everyone that has been following this case. There is alot more coming. Please stay tuned


 ::MonkeyEek::

I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 11, 2009, 03:02:00 AM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/misty-cummings-what-really-happened/

MISTY CUMMINGS; WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
By Steph

I’m not even going to address the accusations that have been made over the last few days. They are truly so outlandish that they don’t dignify a response. What I am going to do, is what I was planning on doing all along, is tell exactly what has been going on behind the scenes for the last week in the Haleigh Cummings investigation. However, we all know now that the plan got foiled by a little road rage incident, that has damaged this investigation irreparably

Snipped

OS


OMG....thats the best article Steph has ever wrote and he has said alot and it all makes sense and I cant believe the roadrage woman just wanted her 15 minutes of fame and in doing so ended the best thing that Tim had going on, and the chance to keep Misty safe until they could find HaLeigh......TIM MILLER......HERO........HE WAS DOING WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS BEST....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Treehouse on October 11, 2009, 03:02:46 AM
But...Misty KNEW who Donna was, with whom Donna was associated, BEFORE she accepted the "escape" that Donna offered. The road rage incident didn't reveal anything to Misty...just to us.

Don't understand what Misty learned through the road rage deal that she didn't already know.

I think Ronald and Misty were playing Donna and Tim the whole time. The gun show put on by Ronald was just that...a show. The kissy kissy at the front door the first time Misty left with Donna was a show.

The filing for divorce may well turn out to be another show.

Heck, wasn't Ronald and Misty's wedding a show?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 03:06:29 AM
But...Misty KNEW who Donna was, with whom Donna was associated, BEFORE she accepted the "escape" that Donna offered. The road rage incident didn't reveal anything to Misty...just to us.

Don't understand what Misty learned through the road rage deal that she didn't already know.

I think Ronald and Misty were playing Donna and Tim the whole time. The gun show put on by Ronald was just that...a show. The kissy kissy at the front door the first time Misty left with Donna was a show.

The filing for divorce may well turn out to be another show.

Heck, wasn't Ronald and Misty's wedding a show?


Could have been ALL for show, but if Tim thought she even might end up dead, and RC threatening to commit suicide after he killed her and others, I guess he might take that seriously whether or not Ron was playing him, his conscience wouldn't let him do anything else IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 11, 2009, 03:10:08 AM
But...Misty KNEW who Donna was, with whom Donna was associated, BEFORE she accepted the "escape" that Donna offered. The road rage incident didn't reveal anything to Misty...just to us.

Don't understand what Misty learned through the road rage deal that she didn't already know.

I think Ronald and Misty were playing Donna and Tim the whole time. The gun show put on by Ronald was just that...a show. The kissy kissy at the front door the first time Misty left with Donna was a show.

The filing for divorce may well turn out to be another show.

Heck, wasn't Ronald and Misty's wedding a show?
How did she know who Donna was even before, Donna just gave TJ a ride from the airport and was waiting to return him back......how do we know if she told Misty she worked for Tim., she could have told her she worked for TJ, or that she was just a volunteer for equasearch and had offered to go pick up TJ because of that.....and what Misty learned was that Tim Miller was paying for her to be with the Donna girl and so therefore Im sure that pissed her off because she was pizzzed at Tim already.....the kissy kissy scene was from the first time thaty Misty left with Donna and it has already been said that Ronald was suppose to go with them but had a change of plans but did manage to meet with them for the day later in the week, so that was before the divorce thing actually came out..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Treehouse on October 11, 2009, 03:11:40 AM
Oh, I agree that Ronald's threats had to be taken seriously. Just reading them gave me chills.

I still don't understand why the plan couldn't go through. Whatever lifeline Donna was offering Misty should have still been valid. It would not have, IF Misty had not known who Donna was; if the road rage had actually revealed who Donna was and that she was a TES volunteer. But Misty already knew that. So what was revealed that spoiled the plan?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Treehouse on October 11, 2009, 03:14:43 AM
But...Misty KNEW who Donna was, with whom Donna was associated, BEFORE she accepted the "escape" that Donna offered. The road rage incident didn't reveal anything to Misty...just to us.

Don't understand what Misty learned through the road rage deal that she didn't already know.

I think Ronald and Misty were playing Donna and Tim the whole time. The gun show put on by Ronald was just that...a show. The kissy kissy at the front door the first time Misty left with Donna was a show.

The filing for divorce may well turn out to be another show.

Heck, wasn't Ronald and Misty's wedding a show?
How did she know who Donna was even before, Donna just gave TJ a ride from the airport and was waiting to return him back......how do we know if she told Misty she worked for Tim., she could have told her she worked for TJ, or that she was just a volunteer for equasearch and had offered to go pick up TJ because of that.....and what Misty learned was that Tim Miller was paying for her to be with the Donna girl and so therefore Im sure that pissed her off because she was pizzzed at Tim already.....the kissy kissy scene was from the first time thaty Misty left with Donna and it has already been said that Ronald was suppose to go with them but had a change of plans but did manage to meet with them for the day later in the week, so that was before the divorce thing actually came out..

Hmm. You could be right; maybe Misty did not get the connection before. And that would answer my confusion. Thanks.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 03:25:20 AM
As I expressed a few times, I knew TM had the best intentions & there had to be circumstances which led to his decisions.   I notice from above that reportedly he and Donna were in touch with LE, so evidently they were aware what they were doing...interesting.   Again, at least he's done more than a whole bunch wrapped up into one regardless of the method, I will state that TM himself didnt break any law in what he did & obviously had LE's blessing if the above account is 100% factual, I will wait to hear more from TM, Mark Nejame & LE.

What I dont get from this blog reporter Steph who so easily wants to scoop the dirt & pass the buck is if he was privy to all this info & realized all  the frustration TM has faced why would  he put it in TM's hands as to asking why he didnt continue being Misty's protector...and I quote "I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma"  One few questions to Steph:   1)  Who protected Haleigh that night?  2)   Did Misty not have ample time to get honest & then request to be protected...I know the answer, do you?   3)  Why dont you be Misty's bodyguard if you are so concerned?   yea, I did think so.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 03:32:16 AM
As I expressed a few times, I knew TM had the best intentions & there had to be circumstances which led to his decisions.   I notice from above that reportedly he and Donna were in touch with LE, so evidently they were aware what they were doing...interesting.   Again, at least he's done more than a whole bunch wrapped up into one regardless of the method, I will state that TM himself didnt break any law in what he did & obviously had LE's blessing if the above account is 100% factual, I will wait to hear more from TM, Mark Nejame & LE.

What I dont get from this blog reporter Steph who so easily wants to scoop the dirt & pass the buck is if he was privy to all this info & realized all  the frustration TM has faced why would  he put it in TM's hands as to asking why he didnt continue being Misty's protector...and I quote "I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma"  One (should be) only a few questions to Steph:   1)  Who protected Haleigh that night?  2)   Did Misty not have ample time to get honest & then request to be protected...I know the answer, do you?   3)  Why dont you be Misty's bodyguard if you are so concerned?   yea, I didnt think so.

snit self-edits above   sorries it is late   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 03:47:21 AM
Oh, I agree that Ronald's threats had to be taken seriously. Just reading them gave me chills.

I still don't understand why the plan couldn't go through. Whatever lifeline Donna was offering Misty should have still been valid. It would not have, IF Misty had not known who Donna was; if the road rage had actually revealed who Donna was and that she was a TES volunteer. But Misty already knew that. So what was revealed that spoiled the plan?

In a word. YES, it spoiled everything ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 03:53:05 AM
As I expressed a few times, I knew TM had the best intentions & there had to be circumstances which led to his decisions.   I notice from above that reportedly he and Donna were in touch with LE, so evidently they were aware what they were doing...interesting.   Again, at least he's done more than a whole bunch wrapped up into one regardless of the method, I will state that TM himself didnt break any law in what he did & obviously had LE's blessing if the above account is 100% factual, I will wait to hear more from TM, Mark Nejame & LE.

What I dont get from this blog reporter Steph who so easily wants to scoop the dirt & pass the buck is if he was privy to all this info & realized all  the frustration TM has faced why would  he put it in TM's hands as to asking why he didnt continue being Misty's protector...and I quote "I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma"  One few questions to Steph:   1)  Who protected Haleigh that night?  2)   Did Misty not have ample time to get honest & then request to be protected...I know the answer, do you?   3)  Why dont you be Misty's bodyguard if you are so concerned?   yea, I did think so.

ITA~I never waivered on Tim Miller's intentions nor methods, as a mom I'd have done far worse.....now as to your questions to Steph 1) Sadly nobody protected HaLeigh that night 2) YES!!!!! Very ample time 3) I guess Misty bonded with this woman and therfore TM thought it would be better to have her take Misty in for protection and to hopefully get some answers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 04:01:20 AM
As I expressed a few times, I knew TM had the best intentions & there had to be circumstances which led to his decisions.   I notice from above that reportedly he and Donna were in touch with LE, so evidently they were aware what they were doing...interesting.   Again, at least he's done more than a whole bunch wrapped up into one regardless of the method, I will state that TM himself didnt break any law in what he did & obviously had LE's blessing if the above account is 100% factual, I will wait to hear more from TM, Mark Nejame & LE.

What I dont get from this blog reporter Steph who so easily wants to scoop the dirt & pass the buck is if he was privy to all this info & realized all  the frustration TM has faced why would  he put it in TM's hands as to asking why he didnt continue being Misty's protector...and I quote "I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma"  One (should be) only a few questions to Steph:   1)  Who protected Haleigh that night?  2)   Did Misty not have ample time to get honest & then request to be protected...I know the answer, do you?   3)  Why dont you be Misty's bodyguard if you are so concerned?   yea, I didnt think so.

snit self-edits above   sorries it is late   

FYI Cappy, the italicized section was my 2 cents that I posted after the article, not Stephs.......... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 04:05:42 AM
As I expressed a few times, I knew TM had the best intentions & there had to be circumstances which led to his decisions.   I notice from above that reportedly he and Donna were in touch with LE, so evidently they were aware what they were doing...interesting.   Again, at least he's done more than a whole bunch wrapped up into one regardless of the method, I will state that TM himself didnt break any law in what he did & obviously had LE's blessing if the above account is 100% factual, I will wait to hear more from TM, Mark Nejame & LE.

What I dont get from this blog reporter Steph who so easily wants to scoop the dirt & pass the buck is if he was privy to all this info & realized all  the frustration TM has faced why would  he put it in TM's hands as to asking why he didnt continue being Misty's protector...and I quote "I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma"  One few questions to Steph:   1)  Who protected Haleigh that night?  2)   Did Misty not have ample time to get honest & then request to be protected...I know the answer, do you?   3)  Why dont you be Misty's bodyguard if you are so concerned?   yea, I did think so.

ITA~I never waivered on Tim Miller's intentions nor methods, as a mom I'd have done far worse.....now as to your questions to Steph 1) Sadly nobody protected HaLeigh that night 2) YES!!!!! Very ample time 3) I guess Misty bonded with this woman and therfore TM thought it would be better to have her take Misty in for protection and to hopefully get some answers.

You got that right, as a mom I would have had a few "persuasive methods" myself, not necessarily of a "hands on" nature but I've been known to have my ways  ::MonkeyWink::   Had to clear this up:   My third question was why Steph is asking why Tim didnt CONTINUE to protect Misty (via Tim or Donna) is how I took that last statement he made in his blog report as it reads of disappointment & concern for Misty...sorries I cant share that same concern since she had options to get protection & tell the truth, no I dont want anyone to take matters into their own hands fatally BUT regardless of what she fears she could have been aided by LE agencies to get her protected...nope not buying  the "boo hoo" for Misty.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 04:09:46 AM
As I expressed a few times, I knew TM had the best intentions & there had to be circumstances which led to his decisions.   I notice from above that reportedly he and Donna were in touch with LE, so evidently they were aware what they were doing...interesting.   Again, at least he's done more than a whole bunch wrapped up into one regardless of the method, I will state that TM himself didnt break any law in what he did & obviously had LE's blessing if the above account is 100% factual, I will wait to hear more from TM, Mark Nejame & LE.

What I dont get from this blog reporter Steph who so easily wants to scoop the dirt & pass the buck is if he was privy to all this info & realized all  the frustration TM has faced why would  he put it in TM's hands as to asking why he didnt continue being Misty's protector...and I quote "I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma"  One few questions to Steph:   1)  Who protected Haleigh that night?  2)   Did Misty not have ample time to get honest & then request to be protected...I know the answer, do you?   3)  Why dont you be Misty's bodyguard if you are so concerned?   yea, I did think so.

ITA~I never waivered on Tim Miller's intentions nor methods, as a mom I'd have done far worse.....now as to your questions to Steph 1) Sadly nobody protected HaLeigh that night 2) YES!!!!! Very ample time 3) I guess Misty bonded with this woman and therfore TM thought it would be better to have her take Misty in for protection and to hopefully get some answers.

You got that right, as a mom I would have had a few "persuasive methods" myself, not necessarily of a "hands on" nature but I've been known to have my ways  ::MonkeyWink::   Had to clear this up:   My third question was why Steph is asking why Tim didnt CONTINUE to protect Misty (via Tim or Donna) is how I took that last statement he made in his blog report as it reads of disappointment & concern for Misty...sorries I cant share that same concern since she had options to get protection & tell the truth, no I dont want anyone to take matters into their own hands fatally BUT regardless of what she fears she could have been aided by LE agencies to get her protected...nope not buying  the "boo hoo" for Misty.

I agree totally about your point on persuasion, BUT the part you italicized was my 2 cents after I read the article......I think Donna may have some info, after all she was with Misty those days Mz Nancy said she was AWOL.     I have zero sympathy for Misty, but if proecting her brings Haleigh home then I'm all for it, let those big girls in prison take care of her after that ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 04:11:12 AM
As I expressed a few times, I knew TM had the best intentions & there had to be circumstances which led to his decisions.   I notice from above that reportedly he and Donna were in touch with LE, so evidently they were aware what they were doing...interesting.   Again, at least he's done more than a whole bunch wrapped up into one regardless of the method, I will state that TM himself didnt break any law in what he did & obviously had LE's blessing if the above account is 100% factual, I will wait to hear more from TM, Mark Nejame & LE.

What I dont get from this blog reporter Steph who so easily wants to scoop the dirt & pass the buck is if he was privy to all this info & realized all  the frustration TM has faced why would  he put it in TM's hands as to asking why he didnt continue being Misty's protector...and I quote "I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma"  One (should be) only a few questions to Steph:   1)  Who protected Haleigh that night?  2)   Did Misty not have ample time to get honest & then request to be protected...I know the answer, do you?   3)  Why dont you be Misty's bodyguard if you are so concerned?   yea, I didnt think so.

snit self-edits above   sorries it is late   

FYI Cappy, the italicized section was my 2 cents that I posted after the article, not Stephs.......... ::MonkeyBike::

Ooooo   Ok that clears that up!   ::MonkeyHaHa::   I couldnt imagine why Steph was in essence sticking up for Tim and Donna & then ask why they dropped her back to Sinsuma....color me confused at his ungodly hour


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 04:12:42 AM
As I expressed a few times, I knew TM had the best intentions & there had to be circumstances which led to his decisions.   I notice from above that reportedly he and Donna were in touch with LE, so evidently they were aware what they were doing...interesting.   Again, at least he's done more than a whole bunch wrapped up into one regardless of the method, I will state that TM himself didnt break any law in what he did & obviously had LE's blessing if the above account is 100% factual, I will wait to hear more from TM, Mark Nejame & LE.

What I dont get from this blog reporter Steph who so easily wants to scoop the dirt & pass the buck is if he was privy to all this info & realized all  the frustration TM has faced why would  he put it in TM's hands as to asking why he didnt continue being Misty's protector...and I quote "I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma"  One (should be) only a few questions to Steph:   1)  Who protected Haleigh that night?  2)   Did Misty not have ample time to get honest & then request to be protected...I know the answer, do you?   3)  Why dont you be Misty's bodyguard if you are so concerned?   yea, I didnt think so.

snit self-edits above   sorries it is late   

FYI Cappy, the italicized section was my 2 cents that I posted after the article, not Stephs.......... ::MonkeyBike::

Ooooo   Ok that clears that up!   ::MonkeyHaHa::   I couldnt imagine why Steph was in essence sticking up for Tim and Donna & then ask why they dropped her back to Sinsuma....color me confused at his ungodly hour
::MonkeyTongue:: I have had typos and confusion in everyone of my last 5 post tonight! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 04:14:08 AM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/misty-cummings-what-really-happened/

MISTY CUMMINGS; WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
By Steph

I’m not even going to address the accusations that have been made over the last few days. They are truly so outlandish that they don’t dignify a response. What I am going to do, is what I was planning on doing all along, is tell exactly what has been going on behind the scenes for the last week in the Haleigh Cummings investigation. However, we all know now that the plan got foiled by a little road rage incident, that has damaged this investigation irreparably

Snipped

OS


OMG....thats the best article Steph has ever wrote and he has said alot and it all makes sense and I cant believe the roadrage woman just wanted her 15 minutes of fame and in doing so ended the best thing that Tim had going on, and the chance to keep Misty safe until they could find HaLeigh......TIM MILLER......HERO........HE WAS DOING WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS BEST....

BBM and my comment is:

That is only the author's opinion.

Not fact.

And I don't happen to agree with his opinion.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 04:19:48 AM
" I have zero sympathy for Misty, but if proecting her brings Haleigh home then I'm all for it, let those big girls in prison take care of her after that"

IM, o hell to the yea on that! ^^   Once we find Haleigh & Misty is arrested maybe with others responsible I wont be shedding any tears if they meet the acquaintance of Big Bertha or Mr Bubba, nope not in the least.

OK, on that note Im gonna finally turn in & say yet another prayer 9 months later.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 04:21:17 AM
" I have zero sympathy for Misty, but if proecting her brings Haleigh home then I'm all for it, let those big girls in prison take care of her after that"

IM, o hell to the yea on that! ^^   Once we find Haleigh & Misty is arrested maybe with others responsible I wont be shedding any tears if they meet the acquaintance of Big Bertha or Mr Bubba, nope not in the least.

OK, on that note Im gonna finally turn in & say yet another prayer 9 months later.



Nite Cappy~hope you have been feeling better.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Treehouse on October 11, 2009, 04:41:02 AM
MISTY CUMMINGS EXCLUSIVE: ”I feel like this has all been a game, and I have been played.”
======================================================================

Misty, this is not a game. Your life is in danger according to words, reportedly, spoken by your husband. Whatever hold you had over him is wearing thin. Nope. Nobody is playing.

Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200 dollars.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 11, 2009, 05:39:38 AM
http://law.rightpundits.com/?p=889
  Misty Croslin: Haleigh Cummings Stepmother Suspected in Child’s Disappearance
By Beth
Misty Croslin is the last person known to have seen Haleigh Cummings. Because of that, she has been under suspicion from the beginning in the mysterious disappearance of the 5-year-old Florida girl. Now the Cummings are divorcing and both are speaking out about their roles in the case and Haleigh Cummings stepmother is again suspected in the child’s disappearance. As time has gone by, events in the case have become odder, but police are no no nearer finding little Haleigh.
The case of missing child Haleigh Cummings just gets more complex as time goes by. Anyone following this case knows that little 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings went missing from her bed during the night of February 9, 2009. Her father, Ronald Cummings, 26-years-old, was at work. Her father’s girlfriend, Misty Croslin, 17-years-old, was babysitting Haleigh and her little 4-year-old brother, Ronald, Jr. at the trailer they shared in Satsuma, Fla. Misty claimed she put the two children to bed and checked on them before she went to bed. She then said she got up about 3 a.m. to find the light in the kitchen on, the back door wide open and Haleigh not in her bed. Ronald came home from work to find Misty seemingly wondering where on earth the little girl had gone.

The Cummings’ have married and now are divorcing since Haleigh went missing. And now, Misty Croslin-Cummings is speaking out in her own defense. She has been a primary suspect, but it pointing the finger at the ‘other side of the family.’
Over the months since Haleigh went missing this family has exhibited a phenomenal level of dysfunction. We can only imagine where it all starts, but we can give a brief overview from the point at which they started making headline news. First, untangling the branches of the family tree would take a team of DNA experts untold hours. We’ll try to do a bit of that a little later. Second, perhaps one of the most startling aspects of this missing child case was when Haleigh’s father married his girlfriend just a month after the child went missing. Then, shortly thereafter, Ronald Cummings was arrested for burglary. In fact, many in the family have been arrested at one point or the other for some crime or the other.

Misty’s defense of her innocence gets complicated by the fact that she failed a lie detector test, her story has been inconsistent and she is alleged to have snuck out of the house while Cummings was at work and the children were in bed. She said she was told it was probably because she felt guilty since she was the last person to be with Haleigh. Then her brother weighed in last month claiming that he had come to the Cummings’ trailer on the night of the disappearance and no one answered the door. He also claimed that Misty had skipped town at one point.

The problem is that Misty’s brother has his own problems. Hank Croslin, Jr. (Tommy) was suspected of stealing a gun from an elderly blind man last month. The man was planning on filing charges, but called Tommy’s sister-in-law and shortly thereafter, the mother brought the gun back to the man. Interestingly, Tommy was also accused of stealing a gun from Ronald on or about the night that Haleigh went missing, an incident that lead to a fight between the two and Ronald’s arrest.
Ronald, Haleigh’s father has been arrested numerous times. Most of the time the charges are dropped. That has been attributed to the fact that his mother, Teresa Neves, is a dispatcher at the Putnum County Sheriff’s department.

Misty’s mother, Lisa Croslin, is suspected of having assisted her son Tommy in stealing the gun of the elderly Marvin Martin. She was arrested in Tennessee last month as a fugitive from Florida on forgery and theft charges.

So those are just a handful of the players in this sad tale of family dysfunction. Haleigh’s mother is Crystal Sheffield, who did not have custody of the children and isn’t a suspect. Her mother is Marie Griffis and her father is Jeff Sheffield.

Check out the videos below of Nancy Grace discussing the odd twists and turns in the Haleigh Cummings case. She asks some pretty pointed questions about Misty Croslin and whether or not the stepmother is suspected in the child’s disappearance.
Videos at link. http://law.rightpundits.com/?p=889



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luckyday on October 11, 2009, 06:04:56 AM
This is what I don't get. IF Ron literally put a gun in his mouth in front of TM alone in a bedroom and said he would blow Misty's head off and then turn the gun on himself, wouldn't TM have gone straight to LE with this information? Wouldn't Tim make a formal statement? Wouldn't LE go immediately and speak to Ron? Possibly take him in and/or take his guns away, get Misty out of the house pronto?

I doubt if LE knew about this..they would leave it up to Tim Miller to allow this Donna to get Misty out of town.

Also, could it be possible that LE is keeping Ron and Misty apart? Maybe Ron really doesn't want a divorce?

Please forgive me if my post is confusing..it's early and these thoughts have been keeping me awake. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Idgie on October 11, 2009, 07:04:23 AM
As I expressed a few times, I knew TM had the best intentions & there had to be circumstances which led to his decisions.   I notice from above that reportedly he and Donna were in touch with LE, so evidently they were aware what they were doing...interesting.   Again, at least he's done more than a whole bunch wrapped up into one regardless of the method, I will state that TM himself didnt break any law in what he did & obviously had LE's blessing if the above account is 100% factual, I will wait to hear more from TM, Mark Nejame & LE.

What I dont get from this blog reporter Steph who so easily wants to scoop the dirt & pass the buck is if he was privy to all this info & realized all  the frustration TM has faced why would  he put it in TM's hands as to asking why he didnt continue being Misty's protector...and I quote "I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma"  One (should be) only a few questions to Steph:   1)  Who protected Haleigh that night?  2)   Did Misty not have ample time to get honest & then request to be protected...I know the answer, do you?   3)  Why dont you be Misty's bodyguard if you are so concerned?   yea, I didnt think so.

snit self-edits above   sorries it is late   

FYI Cappy, the italicized section was my 2 cents that I posted after the article, not Stephs.......... ::MonkeyBike::

Ooooo   Ok that clears that up!   ::MonkeyHaHa::   I couldnt imagine why Steph was in essence sticking up for Tim and Donna & then ask why they dropped her back to Sinsuma....color me confused at his ungodly hour

But but but.... when TM first told that story he did not mention any gun. He said RC was going to put MC's teeth through the back of her throat IF he found out she had any part in Haleigh missing. That was right after the failed LDT/Voice  test.
So who is lying or who changed the story and now adds a gun into the mix? Me thinks they are all lying the whole bunch just to write a story, look important and I think some are drinking again and it is messing with their minds.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: NCSunny on October 11, 2009, 07:59:09 AM
As I expressed a few times, I knew TM had the best intentions & there had to be circumstances which led to his decisions.   I notice from above that reportedly he and Donna were in touch with LE, so evidently they were aware what they were doing...interesting.   Again, at least he's done more than a whole bunch wrapped up into one regardless of the method, I will state that TM himself didnt break any law in what he did & obviously had LE's blessing if the above account is 100% factual, I will wait to hear more from TM, Mark Nejame & LE.

What I dont get from this blog reporter Steph who so easily wants to scoop the dirt & pass the buck is if he was privy to all this info & realized all  the frustration TM has faced why would  he put it in TM's hands as to asking why he didnt continue being Misty's protector...and I quote "I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma"  One (should be) only a few questions to Steph:   1)  Who protected Haleigh that night?  2)   Did Misty not have ample time to get honest & then request to be protected...I know the answer, do you?   3)  Why dont you be Misty's bodyguard if you are so concerned?   yea, I didnt think so.

snit self-edits above   sorries it is late   

FYI Cappy, the italicized section was my 2 cents that I posted after the article, not Stephs.......... ::MonkeyBike::

Ooooo   Ok that clears that up!   ::MonkeyHaHa::   I couldnt imagine why Steph was in essence sticking up for Tim and Donna & then ask why they dropped her back to Sinsuma....color me confused at his ungodly hour

But but but.... when TM first told that story he did not mention any gun. He said RC was going to put MC's teeth through the back of her throat IF he found out she had any part in Haleigh missing. That was right after the failed LDT/Voice  test.
So who is lying or who changed the story and now adds a gun into the mix? Me thinks they are all lying the whole bunch just to write a story, look important and I think some are drinking again and it is messing with their minds.

Morning Monkeys & guests,

IIRC Idgie Tim did mention the gun, Ronald saying all that about Misty & about blowing his own head off. It was then that everyone was fearing for little Butterbean.

The story hasn't changed at all, I think you just missed the beginning of it all.

I don't have time right now to look for the posts & can't remember who posted it, but its in #25 way back there. I will try to find it later, right now I have to go, but wanted to try to clear that up.  ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Minaa on October 11, 2009, 08:21:06 AM
I was just watching the video of Misty in the airport and noticed a few things.I admit im sick in bed with swine flu so i might be seeing things.

The big black bag she is carrying is from John Casablanca modeling and talent agency.


I was born and raised in Orlando and have had friends who have worked for them.Its a place you go to learn modeling,acting get headshots and so on.
I have no idea why she has a travel bag from there or if she has even talked to anyone from the agency.

It has made me wonder tho?? Is she trying to clean up image? Learn how to talk in interviews and so on.

Also i know this is caddy but i swear i see a hickey on left side of neck towards back of neck she has her hair to that side.











Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 11, 2009, 09:43:49 AM
Who is Misty staying with ?
Her family isn't in Satsuma anymore.
Sykes / Neves do not live there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 09:52:33 AM
But...Misty KNEW who Donna was, with whom Donna was associated, BEFORE she accepted the "escape" that Donna offered. The road rage incident didn't reveal anything to Misty...just to us.

Don't understand what Misty learned through the road rage deal that she didn't already know.

I think Ronald and Misty were playing Donna and Tim the whole time. The gun show put on by Ronald was just that...a show. The kissy kissy at the front door the first time Misty left with Donna was a show.

The filing for divorce may well turn out to be another show.

Heck, wasn't Ronald and Misty's wedding a show?
Wow, I so agree with you, what a bunch of BS  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Everything they do is a show, and oh yes Ron and Misty played Tim and Donna.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 09:59:30 AM
Minaa  I sure hope you feel better soon ::MonkeyAngel::  If Ron is such a threat to Misty why is she back in Satsuma, is she staying with a druggie friend? Of course I don't want Ron or anyone else hurting/killing Misty not only because she has answers, it would be horrible, period. I can see why TM or anyone for that matter would want to put Misty in a safe place. I'm just not buying this gun story, I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm sure it did, I just don't believe Ron would do that. He talks big, but that's about it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
Minaa we talked about that mark on Misty's neck, some think it could be a hickey, others think it could be from a hot iron, maybe she was straightening her hair and burned herself, I know I've burned myself a few times with my curling iron.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 11, 2009, 10:12:24 AM
I believe that what TM did was worth a shot. It didn't work. I think that he under estimated how deep Misty is into her lifestyle. To me, she looks as of she could be easily influenced. And don't forget, LE thought it was a good idea to get her away from Ron and his control on her. Nothing else has made anything happen. No closer to finding Haleigh than they were 8 months ago.
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It's Thanksgiving in Canada. Not having a big celebration this year until Nov 11 as daughter is gutting her kitchen for a reno.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 10:17:54 AM
  I don't understand why LE has not stepped in and investigated the gun issue. Ron threatened to kill Misty, and then to commit suicide, this is a serious issue, LE should check on this I would think? What really is upsetting to me, I, just like everyone Haleigh needs to be found, I believe Haleigh is deceased and have thought that from the beginning, but what about Jr? He is living with a man who is threatening to kill his stepmother, OMG how is this safe for this little one? And if Ron would use a gun on Misty, obviously he wouldn't be thinking clearly, and who knows with the anger who else he could shoot? Jr isn't safe, but I guess he will be allowed to stay in that environment until another horrible incident happens, and then it may be too late for Jr.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 10:20:42 AM
I believe that what TM did was worth a shot. It didn't work. I think that he under estimated how deep Misty is into her lifestyle. To me, she looks as of she could be easily influenced. And don't forget, LE thought it was a good idea to get her away from Ron and his control on her. Nothing else has made anything happen. No closer to finding Haleigh than they were 8 months ago.
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It's Thanksgiving in Canada. Not having a big celebration this year until Nov 11 as daughter is gutting her kitchen for a reno.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, and I hope you are feeling good this morning  ::MonkeyAngel:: I don't know, I'm not doubting Tim's or LE efforts to get Misty away from Ron, heck even Lenny P offered. What scares me is now what? I just feel this isn't going to end well, and I don't mean just with little Haleigh  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 11, 2009, 10:22:07 AM

MN is another option. Since the Caylee case I've seen a change in TM....Is it possible after helping so many honest grieving families that he is just fed up with these families that don't help and is driven to find these children himself since it appears nobody else wants to?

You may be onto something, N2W. 

IMO, Tim has been treated badly by families long before Caylee.  I watched him struggle in the Stacy Peterson case.  He was treated horrendously by many in her family/friends, those dealing with the searches etc.  He walked away with much class and dignity, but it broke his heart not to have the opportunity to continue in helping to find Stacy.  IMO, if she's never found, it will be because of her own family members, their need to place ego's above all else, and in the doing of that lost their best chance to find Stacy when Tim walked.  Again, that's my own opinion. 

And then he came to help find Caylee, and then Haleigh, plus there have been others.... I don't know how he continues, I really don't.   


I don't either Wyks.  The first I ever heard of Tim was over four years ago when he went to Aruba to search
for Natalee Holloway.
Tim isn't perfect nor is he a Saint, but his heart is in the right place.
I don't think it is my place to pass judgement on Tim Miller for his faults....at least he is out there
doing something.  I can't expect everybody to approve of his methods.

I hope in the morning we get up and what has happened in the past few day has born fruit and I will come back on and sing Tim's praises.I will say I was wrong for even questioning what he did.
I just can't help but feel right now, "What was he thinking?"

I know nobody is a saint and perfect, and like I said, I know his story. I'm far from perfect myself. Ask KLAAS and the mods.  ::MonkeyDevil::  But I do question his judgement in this, and I will still respect him, none-the-less. As I said before, he is trying when it seems very little is being done otherwise. 
you are my friend miss Mae..so just hear me out.  what was he gonna' do?  buy her a sack?  maybe a fifth?  he can't do that and so he did what he could.  not that its gonna work but when you have nothing you do what you can do to get some info.  yeah, its cheesy but you can't put an org. out by doing what might actually work.  misty will talk it the right party favors are provided.  but TES can't provide them and still hang on to their rep.  he tried.  and am afraid it did nothing,  but hey, ya do what you can do. tim did what he could do.  IMO

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

It would have been cheaper for TM to hire an escort service for FAB, take photographs and show M.  Get her mad and jealous
and it may be beneficial. She must have a temper...she did get man, loosing that man can't come easy to her, to someone else!
do what? ::MonkeyConfused::

Good Morning,

Sorry, I was not clear at all... Tick off Misty and she will tell you what happened.. people feel FAB ma, gma, is involved, MC will spill her guts when she is teed off, pampering, isn't going to help, make her mad and she will open her mouth.

To do what?  nothing, because, a escort service may just pop him in a limo and do nothin' "only pictures to show Misty", that Ron is
looking for a new stepmother...tick misty off...that is the way to go..only, it is very risky.

She is mellow and idealist thinking, light is at the end of the tunnel, when she sees it is over.. MC, may tell the guts of the story.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 10:29:08 AM
 Ron just looking at another girl, that will tick Misty off, only problem is, Misty might do harm to the other girl  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 10:41:34 AM
This is what I don't get. IF Ron literally put a gun in his mouth in front of TM alone in a bedroom and said he would blow Misty's head off and then turn the gun on himself, wouldn't TM have gone straight to LE with this information? Wouldn't Tim make a formal statement? Wouldn't LE go immediately and speak to Ron? Possibly take him in and/or take his guns away, get Misty out of the house pronto?

I doubt if LE knew about this..they would leave it up to Tim Miller to allow this Donna to get Misty out of town.

Also, could it be possible that LE is keeping Ron and Misty apart? Maybe Ron really doesn't want a divorce?

Please forgive me if my post is confusing..it's early and these thoughts have been keeping me awake. ::MonkeyEek::

Good morning monkeys!! 

And hi luckyday, good to see ya again!   :smt039

You make good points here, things I've been wondering too.  Am thinking that LE may be trying to keep Ron/Misty apart.  This pampering of her may be all part of their strategy.  I do agree with others who've suggested to pizz her off.  Seems that may be the only way to get her to spill what she seems to know.  My vote would be to have Ron go visit his son with Amber, let the media catch that pic.  Ya know the media will be all over that and Misty will see.  We already know the jealousy between her and Amber.  I don't like game playing, but heck, seems they've done everything else, why not try this. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 10:48:46 AM
Ron just looking at another girl, that will tick Misty off, only problem is, Misty might do harm to the other girl  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Morning, Rosie! 

Yeah, if LE is gonna try ticking Misty, they'd definitely need to have a tail on Misty, the other girl, and Ron.  At all times, IMO.  Might be easier for them to pick Misty up on some violation, and while she's in jail, lol, even a brief mention of the idea of another girl, without names, would likely do it. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 11, 2009, 10:54:47 AM
I believe that what TM did was worth a shot. It didn't work. I think that he under estimated how deep Misty is into her lifestyle. To me, she looks as of she could be easily influenced. And don't forget, LE thought it was a good idea to get her away from Ron and his control on her. Nothing else has made anything happen. No closer to finding Haleigh than they were 8 months ago.
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It's Thanksgiving in Canada. Not having a big celebration this year until Nov 11 as daughter is gutting her kitchen for a reno.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, and I hope you are feeling good this morning  ::MonkeyAngel:: I don't know, I'm not doubting Tim's or LE efforts to get Misty away from Ron, heck even Lenny P offered. What scares me is now what? I just feel this isn't going to end well, and I don't mean just with little Haleigh  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am ok. Not great. Going to get some of my own work done around here.
Don't feel like it, but I always feel better when it is finished. I move slow in the work department.
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Misty being back in Satsuma is not good. She only knows what she knows and I guess she will return to it. She's old enuf to make that choice, regardless of her lessened brain power. Someone did hold out a lifeline to
her. She had a good lawyer. I have a feeling that some choices were presented to her as to what would happen if she did tell and she didn't make that leap. Haleigh seems to be unimportant in this to her or Ron. I don't think Haleigh is alive. Not after all this time with not a thing. I will be home tomorrow and am going to try to catch that Early Show. I will probably be fit to be tied. I saw the clips of the part one and I was really angry and wanted to just reach in and slap that stupid girl. ( I can't say what I really thought of her , it's Sunday ) TM being done with these people doesn't surprise me. They contacted him. And I don't think it was to get to the truth, but to get one over, try to clear themselves.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 10:55:48 AM
Ron just looking at another girl, that will tick Misty off, only problem is, Misty might do harm to the other girl  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Morning, Rosie! 

Yeah, if LE is gonna try ticking Misty, they'd definitely need to have a tail on Misty, the other girl, and Ron.  At all times, IMO.  Might be easier for them to pick Misty up on some violation, and while she's in jail, lol, even a brief mention of the idea of another girl, without names, would likely do it. 

Good Morning, the question now is where is Misty staying, and if Misty feels threatened what will Misty do?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 11:05:03 AM
I believe that what TM did was worth a shot. It didn't work. I think that he under estimated how deep Misty is into her lifestyle. To me, she looks as of she could be easily influenced. And don't forget, LE thought it was a good idea to get her away from Ron and his control on her. Nothing else has made anything happen. No closer to finding Haleigh than they were 8 months ago.
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It's Thanksgiving in Canada. Not having a big celebration this year until Nov 11 as daughter is gutting her kitchen for a reno.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, and I hope you are feeling good this morning  ::MonkeyAngel:: I don't know, I'm not doubting Tim's or LE efforts to get Misty away from Ron, heck even Lenny P offered. What scares me is now what? I just feel this isn't going to end well, and I don't mean just with little Haleigh  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am ok. Not great. Going to get some of my own work done around here.
Don't feel like it, but I always feel better when it is finished. I move slow in the work department.
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Misty being back in Satsuma is not good. She only knows what she knows and I guess she will return to it. She's old enuf to make that choice, regardless of her lessened brain power. Someone did hold out a lifeline to
her. She had a good lawyer. I have a feeling that some choices were presented to her as to what would happen if she did tell and she didn't make that leap. Haleigh seems to be unimportant in this to her or Ron. I don't think Haleigh is alive. Not after all this time with not a thing. I will be home tomorrow and am going to try to catch that Early Show. I will probably be fit to be tied. I saw the clips of the part one and I was really angry and wanted to just reach in and slap that stupid girl. ( I can't say what I really thought of her , it's Sunday ) TM being done with these people doesn't surprise me. They contacted him. And I don't think it was to get to the truth, but to get one over, try to clear themselves.
  ::MonkeyAngel::   No Misty being back in Satsuma is not good, and I wonder if she will get another lawyer?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 11:15:02 AM
Ron just looking at another girl, that will tick Misty off, only problem is, Misty might do harm to the other girl  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Morning, Rosie! 

Yeah, if LE is gonna try ticking Misty, they'd definitely need to have a tail on Misty, the other girl, and Ron.  At all times, IMO.  Might be easier for them to pick Misty up on some violation, and while she's in jail, lol, even a brief mention of the idea of another girl, without names, would likely do it. 

Good Morning, the question now is where is Misty staying, and if Misty feels threatened what will Misty do?  ::MonkeyEek::

Am thinking that Misty will very likely do what she has done in the past.. Go to her using friends and get her fix.  Then she won't have to think about any of this or worry.  Let's hope that LE is one step ahead of her, and will not allow that to happen. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Minaa on October 11, 2009, 11:30:57 AM
I am just so worried for little Ron Jr.

We have reports of guns in closets.
We have reports of bad fighting between Ron and Misty.
We have reports of a murder/suicide plan.
We also have a small child who has lost his sister his family is falling apart and his stepmother who he adores (so the family and Misty say)keeps moving in and out and taking off for "trips"'
What most be going thru this poor childs mind?

No one was looking out for Haleigh and look what happened!
I pray for Jr. and hope someone is looking out for him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 11:40:36 AM
Where I'm sitting it sure doesn't look like anyone is looking out for Jr. It makes me ill that he could grab at Ron's gun, I sure hope that he can't reach it  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 11:45:47 AM
Where I'm sitting it sure doesn't look like anyone is looking out for Jr. It makes me ill that he could grab at Ron's gun, I sure hope that he can't reach it  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am terrified for jr, always have been but when a man threatens to kill someone else, and himself and take others with him, they need to Baker Act him at minimal.............think about all the stories we here of men who take out everyone in their family before they take out themselves ::MonkeyNoNo:: DCF WHERE the  fruck are you???????????? It's so obvious jr should be with Crystal and Marie and not in that extremely volatile situation, are they waiting for something else bad to happen ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 12:23:17 PM
Ok, I have read Steph's article. I have a roaring sore throat and headache this morning, so I am going to try to make some sense out of this.

My biggest burning question is didn't some monkeys here say Courtney was on Steph's friends list, and it was hinted that she knew his and since he is a couluminst she was trying to derail the whole deal by calling in the "Road Rage" where there was none. Now he's saying she was somebody that recognized them and was trying to get her "15 mins" of fame. It was expressed that if Steph knew about this he could try to get something newsworth. Now it looks like he was in on the "Orlando" getaway. Color me confuses??? Which one was it?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Next question is how did the Road Rage deal derail the "fun in the sun in Orlando" deal with Donna. Misty surely knew Donna was from TES by her being there in Satsuma voice stress test set up by TES at Ggm Sykes house. Color me really confused now.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 11, 2009, 12:27:27 PM
Ron just looking at another girl, that will tick Misty off, only problem is, Misty might do harm to the other girl  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Hi Monkeys,

See this is why, no one can do anything...this guys are such bad news.

She was a minor, married changed that status to an adult, if divorced at 17, does she go back to being a minor?

The Jerry Springer show would be the place for Misty and FAB. This is such a delicate situation of her age.

FAB's ma, is bad news too. Ma would be recording, everything on video, she would need a date. too! :) IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Minaa on October 11, 2009, 12:30:33 PM
Misty and Donna were facebooks or myspace friends for a bit now and Donna has pics of TES searches and does not hide the fact she is involved in TES.

So who is lying??I dont believe for a second Donnas cover was blown.
I think somethin fishy is going on and someone is telling stories to cover thier butts.
I dont know whats going on but i dont believe it as its being told.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 11, 2009, 12:34:29 PM
Ok, I have read Steph's article. I have a roaring sore throat and headache this morning, so I am going to try to make some sense out of this.

My biggest burning question is didn't some monkeys here say Courtney was on Steph's friends list, and it was hinted that she knew his and since he is a couluminst she was trying to derail the whole deal by calling in the "Road Rage" where there was none. Now he's saying she was somebody that recognized them and was trying to get her "15 mins" of fame. It was expressed that if Steph knew about this he could try to get something newsworth. Now it looks like he was in on the "Orlando" getaway. Color me confuses??? Which one was it?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Next question is how did the Road Rage deal derail the "fun in the sun in Orlando" deal with Donna. Misty surely knew Donna was from TES by her being there in Satsuma voice stress test set up by TES at Ggm Sykes house. Color me really confused now.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Good Morning, yep, some did post where Courtney had a connection to Steph somehow and in his article he speaks about that and says some was trying to make a connection where there is none, im one that said Courtney knew who Misty was and wasnt telling the whole truth about the roadrage....
  I think it got derailed when Misty found out that Tim Miller was financing the get-a-way, up to that point Im not sure Misty knew that Tim was aware that she was staying and travelling with Donna,,,,,Misty only knew Donna from her giving TJ a ride to the Aunts house from the airport  and waiting around to take him back...How do we know what Donna told her was going on, Donna might have told her she worked for TJ, or that she was just a volunteer for Equasearch, and made no big deal about it, Im sure Misty was good and pizzed to find out Tim was finaincing anything, she was good and pizzed at him about the poly's and what happened after they were taken...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 12:37:15 PM
Misty and Donna were facebooks or myspace friends for a bit now and Donna has pics of TES searches and does not hide the fact she is involved in TES.

So who is lying??I dont believe for a second Donnas cover was blown.
I think somethin fishy is going on and someone is telling stories to cover thier butts.
I dont know whats going on but i dont believe it as its being told.

Not sure it was her "cover" that was blown as much as her purpose


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 11, 2009, 12:37:40 PM
I am just so worried for little Ron Jr.

We have reports of guns in closets.
We have reports of bad fighting between Ron and Misty.
We have reports of a murder/suicide plan.
We also have a small child who has lost his sister his family is falling apart and his stepmother who he adores (so the family and Misty say)keeps moving in and out and taking off for "trips"'
What most be going thru this poor childs mind?

No one was looking out for Haleigh and look what happened!
I pray for Jr. and hope someone is looking out for him.

Amen Minaa.   ::MonkeyAngel::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 01:01:53 PM
Thanks OS~I am going to post the entire article for those who can't see the link.............


« MISTY CUMMINGS EXCLUSIVE: ”I feel like this has all been a game, and I have been played.”MISTY CUMMINGS; WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
By Steph
I’m not even going to address the accusations that have been made over the last few days. They are truly so outlandish that they don’t dignify a response. What I am going to do, is what I was planning on doing all along, is tell exactly what has been going on behind the scenes for the last week in the Haleigh Cummings investigation. However, we all know now that the plan got foiled by a little road rage incident, that has damaged this investigation irreparably.

Back on Sept 20th, Tim Miller asked me to come to Orlando to film Misty Cummings’ hypnosis and voice analysis that she had requested to have done. Although I was not paid, I was permitted to report (as I did on this blog) my observations of the tapings. Tim also flew in TJ Ward, the Voice analysis expert and he needed someone to pick TJ up at the airport. Because Texas Equusearch (TE) operates with very little budget, they rely on volunteers. Tim called his TE member closest to the airport and asked her to pick up TJ…that member was Donna Brock. Donna arrived into Satsuma at Ronald’s aunts’ house (where the hypnosis and voice analysis was being conducted) with TJ. This is the first time I had ever met her. She had to wait with TJ until he was done with his test to return him to the Orlando Airport (he’s from Georgia). It was a long day for all involved, and there was a lot of waiting around. Misty took a liking to Donna as they chatted causally, we got set up for the interviews. The two even slipped out to pick up food for everyone (Ronald, Teresa, Ronalds’ aunt, Jr. and a few other family members were all there)

The week before this, Tim Miller had an intimate conversation with Ronald Cummings in the bedroom he shared with Misty in his grandmothers’ trailer just down the road. They talked in detail about their thoughts of Misty’s involvement in the case. Tim asked Ronald why he married Misty. Ronald responded “I have to keep her close till I find out what happened to Haleigh”. It’s what happened next that frightened Miller. Ronald pulled a gun out of the closet, an assault rifle with 2 clips, each clip holding 32 bullets. Ronald looked at Miller and said “When I find out where Haleigh’s at, I will blow the teeth out of the back of her head, and then I’ll do this…” He then got on his knees, put the butt of the rifle on of the gun on the floor and the leaned over and put the barrel in his mouth. There was no “IF” she had anything to do with it, and Miller knew that Ronald was serious. That he would kill Misty and then take his own life. It was at that point he knew they had to get Misty out of there, or she would end up dead.

After the law enforcement received copies of the polygraph, the voice analysis and hypnosis, I wrote about it on my blog and the media picked up the story and it blew up (I cleared with Miller and LE that it was ok to release the tapes to the media). When the story blew up, so did tempers in Satsuma and Miller knew he had to get Misty out of there immediately. Donna seemed liked the logical, choice; Misty trusted her, she is a mother and a grandmother, and most importantly she lived close enough and was willing to take Misty in. “We may have to save Misty’s life” Miller told Donna. And in an instant, Donna was off to get Misty and bring her to safety in Orlando.

Miller knew in the back of his mind Donna now has an opportunity to get close to Misty to get more info to lead to Haleigh. So did law enforcement. Miller also knew she wasn’t an expert, just one of his volunteers going above and beyond her call of duty, and he worried about that. Law enforcement was well aware of exactly where Misty was and what was going on at all times. This is what they wanted, Misty away from Satsuma, the trailer park, her family Ronald’s’ family, and most importantly away from Ronald.

In Mark Fuhrman’s new book “The Murder Business” he writes in detail about the Melinda Duckett case, the young Florida mother of Trenton Duckett, who went missing in 2006. After appearing on Nancy Grace’s show, Melinda committed suicide.

“With Melinda Ducketts’ suicide, investigators lost their best chance of finding Trenton” says Fuhrman. “We have to avoid that same situation at any cost” says Tim Miller “If anything tragic happens to Misty now, any knowledge of what happened to Haleigh dies too”. “You can’t put a price tag on finding a child.”

Over the next month Misty and Donna grew close. Miller wired money into Donnas’ account on several occasions to cover Misty’s living expenses, right up until 4 days ago, when he wired her 300.00 dollars, all for the purpose of keeping her safe, keeping her away from Satsuma and keeping her talking.

“Donna made incredible sacrifices. She put her life on hold, stopped spending time with her own family, including her daughter and new born grand baby” said Miller. ‘This has been very stressful for her” Tim Miller and Donna both made periodic reports to Law Enforcement on Misty’s whereabouts and activities.

As any good journalist should, I reached out to Donna to try and get comments and information on Misty. Donna and Misty were tight lipped at first, but they read my blog nightly, and as they watched the media bashing Misty on TV every night, they grew to trust me. When the divorce news broke, Misty wanted to respond to what was being said. So she granted me an interview on the phone and I posted it on the blog.

That night a someone from CBS “The Early Show” read my blog and emailed me immediately to see if I could get them an interview with Misty. I freelance for CBS so when called so they called; I wanted to help them out. I knew I didn’t have the resources to fly to Orlando and conduct the interview myself, just to post it on my blog. I told Misty of CBS’s interview request and she agreed to it. CBS arranged to fly her up, not first class as rumored last night on Nancy Grace, but in coach. It is Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) in the media to fly a guest in and put them in a hotel to tape an interview. Donna came along because Misty is a minor and she needed to be accompanied by an adult. I notified law enforcement that she was coming to NY to appear on “The Early Show and I gave them her outgoing and return flight and hotel info so they knew where she was. Law Enforcement requested that we don’t change her return ticket to any other state than Florida.

Then the Road rage incident happened. Donna and Misty called me right after it happened because we had been in constant contact. A woman cut them off on the road and they (both) gave her the finger. A stupid decision on both their parts, bad judgment whatever you want to call it, in that second everything changed. Up until that point Donna and Misty had remained quiet, flying under the radar, so to speak, and Misty trusted Donna. Apparently the woman who cut them off recognized Misty and called police claiming they pointed a gun. Next thing Donna and Misty are pulled over and find themselves face down on the ground with guns in their backs. The situation quickly diffused when the police realized the report was false. The media went nuts, Donnas’ cover was blown, the woman turned up on Nancy Grace. What an opportunist, she should be ashamed of herself for lying to police. Donna and Misty realize they were wrong and it was foolish. Then the armchairs investigators tried to connect dots that weren’t connectable. And none of this had anything to do with finding Haleigh. Why would Nancy Grace waste an hour on this? I decided not to even right a post about it. It was irrelevant. But now Misty learned that Donna was not her friend[b/]

The CBS interview was important because the more people talk, the more they reveal. Every time Misty tells the same story, police can look for inconsistencies. Something different, perhaps a clue. That’s why it was so important to get Misty to tell “her side of the story” And perhaps from what I hear, it may her last interview (part 2 will air on CBS “Early Show on Monday) After the interview aired, Misty’s attorney dropped her as a client.

Tonight as I write this, Donna has dropped Misty off in Satsuma. Donna will meet again with law enforcement on Monday to tell her the last of what she has learned. Donna has been very tight lipped about her conversations with Misty, at least with me. At least for now. The next few days should be interesting, now that misty is back in the lions den. I will write more about my observations and conversations I had with Misty while in NY with her.

I asked Tim Miller if his organization will continue to look for Haleigh “I’m not done with this case; I’m done with these people. But any resources I have will be available to help find Haleigh. ‘I will continue any efforts I can to end the search for Haleigh Cummings.”

I hope this begins to clear up a few things and connect the dots for everyone that has been following this case. There is alot more coming. Please stay tuned


 ::MonkeyEek::

I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

The part I bolded about the road rage is one of the things I am talking about. Nowhere there does it say he did/didn't know her and only says's shame on her because she recognized Misty. Is she a friend or is she a rival blogger?  Which is is? Why would she deliberately derail the "Operation Orlando?" And how the heck did the road rage incident cause Misty to know Donna was not her friend.

Oh yeah, and it was ok for Steph to write about the results of the lie detector and voice stress failure and the MEDIA wrote about it and tempers got hot in Satsuma toward Misty. Isn't Steph part of the media and isn't he writing stories, if fact the original story that got things "hot in Satsuma" for Misty.

It seems to me that if you want to keep a story low, you don't do it with not only one but two media types in tow. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 11, 2009, 01:07:48 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 11, 2009, 01:15:51 PM
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CBS arranged to fly her up, not first class as rumored last night on Nancy Grace, but in coach. It is Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) in the media to fly a guest in and put them in a hotel to tape an interview. Donna came along because Misty is a minor and she needed to be accompanied by an adult.


I may be getting picky here, but how can a married woman be a minor? Are Ron and Misty married or not? There's just so much confusion going on that I'm not even sure what is going on......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 11, 2009, 01:17:04 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.


Sorry Blu didn't see your post. Seems you and I have the same questions......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 11, 2009, 01:20:27 PM
Misty acts like someone that has a split personality....she looks and talks different...soft voice, acting like a little girl , then we see her speaking out cocky looking older....wth is going on with her?
Perhaps Misty suffers from dissociative disorder, an uncommon condition under the broad heading of anxiety disorders.  It can be frightening to be afflicted with dissociation.  Some victims do not remember previous states of mind (the "other" personality), and are perplexed when realize they are dressing like the "other" personality.  It sounds a bit spooky, and it's not all that common, but really, most people dissociate in minor ways, but there are no eye-opening events as is minor.

No disrespect intended to MyMonkey or Strayze, but I think Misty suffers from Drugged Out Juvenile Delinquent Disorder.  I think she's every bit as masterful at manipulation as Casey Anthony.  This little broad has participated in stuff that some of us never even heard of until we were twice her age. 

I love your description Numbersgirl!  Misty has certainly been around the town at her tender age of 17 with a fourth grade education.  An experienced druggie and an opportunist for acquiring drugs.   Her entire family seems to be the same, and her parents are both drugged out with seemingly little care for anything but their next fix and whatever criminal scheme they will use to attain it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 01:23:10 PM
I believe that what TM did was worth a shot. It didn't work. I think that he under estimated how deep Misty is into her lifestyle. To me, she looks as of she could be easily influenced. And don't forget, LE thought it was a good idea to get her away from Ron and his control on her. Nothing else has made anything happen. No closer to finding Haleigh than they were 8 months ago.
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blonde on October 11, 2009, 01:25:04 PM
[/b]Seahorse

Good Morning,

Sorry, I was not clear at all... Tick off Misty and she will tell you what happened.. people feel FAB ma, gma, is involved, MC will spill her guts when she is teed off, pampering, isn't going to help, make her mad and she will open her mouth.

To do what?  nothing, because, a escort service may just pop him in a limo and do nothin' "only pictures to show Misty", that Ron is
looking for a new stepmother...tick misty off...that is the way to go..only, it is very risky.

She is mellow and idealist thinking, light is at the end of the tunnel, when she sees it is over.. MC, may tell the guts of the story.

IMO if Ron had something to do with this yes it might work but if Misty was in this alone she would take it till her death.Why would she go to jail and loose her man.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 01:25:11 PM
Misty acts like someone that has a split personality....she looks and talks different...soft voice, acting like a little girl , then we see her speaking out cocky looking older....wth is going on with her?
Perhaps Misty suffers from dissociative disorder, an uncommon condition under the broad heading of anxiety disorders.  It can be frightening to be afflicted with dissociation.  Some victims do not remember previous states of mind (the "other" personality), and are perplexed when realize they are dressing like the "other" personality.  It sounds a bit spooky, and it's not all that common, but really, most people dissociate in minor ways, but there are no eye-opening events as is minor.

No disrespect intended to MyMonkey or Strayze, but I think Misty suffers from Drugged Out Juvenile Delinquent Disorder.  I think she's every bit as masterful at manipulation as Casey Anthony.  This little broad has participated in stuff that some of us never even heard of until we were twice her age. 

I love your description Numbersgirl!  Misty has certainly been around the town at her tender age of 17 with a fourth grade education.  An experienced druggie and an opportunist for acquiring drugs.   Her entire family seems to be the same, and her parents are both drugged out with seemingly little care for anything but their next fix and whatever criminal scheme they will use to attain it.

I surely haven't participated in a threesome, and I am over 60, so I guess the time for that is past.  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 11, 2009, 01:42:45 PM
Misty acts like someone that has a split personality....she looks and talks different...soft voice, acting like a little girl , then we see her speaking out cocky looking older....wth is going on with her?
Perhaps Misty suffers from dissociative disorder, an uncommon condition under the broad heading of anxiety disorders.  It can be frightening to be afflicted with dissociation.  Some victims do not remember previous states of mind (the "other" personality), and are perplexed when realize they are dressing like the "other" personality.  It sounds a bit spooky, and it's not all that common, but really, most people dissociate in minor ways, but there are no eye-opening events as is minor.

No disrespect intended to MyMonkey or Strayze, but I think Misty suffers from Drugged Out Juvenile Delinquent Disorder.  I think she's every bit as masterful at manipulation as Casey Anthony.  This little broad has participated in stuff that some of us never even heard of until we were twice her age. 

I love your description Numbersgirl!  Misty has certainly been around the town at her tender age of 17 with a fourth grade education.  An experienced druggie and an opportunist for acquiring drugs.   Her entire family seems to be the same, and her parents are both drugged out with seemingly little care for anything but their next fix and whatever criminal scheme they will use to attain it.

I surely haven't participated in a threesome, and I am over 60, so I guess the time for that is past.  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

pfffttttt  you'd be surprised at some of the much more umm educated women that do participate in that and more... just sayin..oh and no, I do not partake in those activities.Just for the record..    ::MonkeyAngel::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 01:54:32 PM
Misty acts like someone that has a split personality....she looks and talks different...soft voice, acting like a little girl , then we see her speaking out cocky looking older....wth is going on with her?
Perhaps Misty suffers from dissociative disorder, an uncommon condition under the broad heading of anxiety disorders.  It can be frightening to be afflicted with dissociation.  Some victims do not remember previous states of mind (the "other" personality), and are perplexed when realize they are dressing like the "other" personality.  It sounds a bit spooky, and it's not all that common, but really, most people dissociate in minor ways, but there are no eye-opening events as is minor.

No disrespect intended to MyMonkey or Strayze, but I think Misty suffers from Drugged Out Juvenile Delinquent Disorder.  I think she's every bit as masterful at manipulation as Casey Anthony.  This little broad has participated in stuff that some of us never even heard of until we were twice her age. 

I love your description Numbersgirl!  Misty has certainly been around the town at her tender age of 17 with a fourth grade education.  An experienced druggie and an opportunist for acquiring drugs.   Her entire family seems to be the same, and her parents are both drugged out with seemingly little care for anything but their next fix and whatever criminal scheme they will use to attain it.

I surely haven't participated in a threesome, and I am over 60, so I guess the time for that is past.  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

pfffttttt  you'd be surprised at some of the much more umm educated women that do participate in that and more... just sayin..oh and no, I do not partake in those activities.Just for the record..    ::MonkeyAngel::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 11, 2009, 01:54:51 PM
For clarification, my line of work is a chemist/biochemist at a medical school.  I certainly admire those who work directly with addicts/alcoholics and those people who have climbed out of the addiction spiral.  Addiction causes irreversible changes to the brain, causing a great build up of receptors for drug/alcohol.  Withdrawal causes great surges of adrenalin which are most unpleasant.  Hence the need for gradual withdrawal (usually by long-lived anti-anxiety drugs such as Klonapin) used in treatment centers or in office-based treatment.  Even the anti-anxiety drugs have to be backed out of gradually. Otherwise, getting sober is extremely hard work, involving the sweats and all that goes with the adrenalin surges. I'm sure that there is newer work on the neurobiochemistry of addiction.  We have a tragic example of what alcohol addiction does in my sister's family:  her daughter in her 30's who is totally disabled neurorologically and also physically:  she is in a wheelchair.  One of the lobes of her brain has been destroyed substantially, wiping out her more recent memory.  A combo of eating disorders as is often found in young women, coupled with alcoholism has especially bad consequences.  Many older chronic alcoholics can suffer from this, especially if they do not eat much.  Actually, there are instances of severe eating disorders alone that have these neurological consequences, but adding alcohol to the mix hastens the brain destruction.  Always, it's the adrenalin surge that comes with withdrawal that spurs on the addiction, for only alcohol or Xanax, etc can alleviate it.  The adrenalin surge can cause convulsions if not attended to.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 01:55:06 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 11, 2009, 02:01:12 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



Pffft Granny's gone wild.. Ok I will stop, sorry, Fanny started it .. Hi Fanny  ::MonkeyKiss:: I Dsn   ::MonkeyKiss::  Hi monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 02:02:00 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



Hi! DSNTSLP. I guess the world has passed us by........... ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: theboyzmom on October 11, 2009, 02:03:28 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Yep = she is an adult. And even is she was not, my 16 y.o flies by himself. I do not think that Misty was accompanied because she is a 'child' but because it was a guarantee that she would show up where she is supposed to. She is not known for being responsible!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



Pffft Granny's gone wild.. Ok I will stop, sorry, Fanny started it .. Hi Fanny  ::MonkeyKiss:: I Dsn   ::MonkeyKiss::  Hi monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::

I didn't say I haven't gone wild a time or two. It's just I missed the threesomes.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 02:05:54 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Yep = she is an adult. And even is she was not, my 16 y.o flies by himself. I do not think that Misty was accompanied because she is a 'child' but because it was a guarantee that she would show up where she is supposed to. She is not known for being responsible!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yep, she might have sold her airline ticket and God only knows what kind of chit she could have bought.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 11, 2009, 02:08:29 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Yep = she is an adult. And even is she was not, my 16 y.o flies by himself. I do not think that Misty was accompanied because she is a 'child' but because it was a guarantee that she would show up where she is supposed to. She is not known for being responsible!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

BBM.. yeah, she can't seem to remember what she was doing the night she "misplaced" a 5 year old child...not very responsible.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 02:11:49 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Yep = she is an adult. And even is she was not, my 16 y.o flies by himself. I do not think that Misty was accompanied because she is a 'child' but because it was a guarantee that she would show up where she is supposed to. She is not known for being responsible!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

BBM.. yeah, she can't seem to remember what she was doing the night she "misplaced" a 5 year old child...not very responsible.  ::MonkeyMad::

She sure can't use the excuse, "I don't know, I was at work." ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 02:12:26 PM
Searching,
Thank you for the link.
I'll listen in.

Fanny,
Hiya!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 02:14:23 PM
Searching,
Thank you for the link.
I'll listen in.

Fanny,
Hiya!

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 11, 2009, 02:16:21 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Yep = she is an adult. And even is she was not, my 16 y.o flies by himself. I do not think that Misty was accompanied because she is a 'child' but because it was a guarantee that she would show up where she is supposed to. She is not known for being responsible!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

BBM.. yeah, she can't seem to remember what she was doing the night she "misplaced" a 5 year old child...not very responsible.  ::MonkeyMad::

She sure can't use the excuse, "I don't know, I was at work." ::MonkeyTongue::

hehehe wellll.... according to the newest rumors,maybe she can..   ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyDevil2::  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 11, 2009, 02:17:37 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Yep = she is an adult. And even is she was not, my 16 y.o flies by himself. I do not think that Misty was accompanied because she is a 'child' but because it was a guarantee that she would show up where she is supposed to. She is not known for being responsible!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

BBM.. yeah, she can't seem to remember what she was doing the night she "misplaced" a 5 year old child...not very responsible.  ::MonkeyMad::

Misty was coming off a 3 day drug binge the night Haleigh disappeared.  It's possible that Misty was in a huge self-made fog.  Isn't that the reason that druggies keep taking drugs?  I don't give much credence to anything Misty says about facts, for she doesn't know.  She's only believable when she talks about how she feels at any particular time IMO. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 11, 2009, 02:18:08 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 02:20:57 PM
For clarification, my line of work is a chemist/biochemist at a medical school.  I certainly admire those who work directly with addicts/alcoholics and those people who have climbed out of the addiction spiral.  Addiction causes irreversible changes to the brain, causing a great build up of receptors for drug/alcohol.  Withdrawal causes great surges of adrenalin which are most unpleasant.  Hence the need for gradual withdrawal (usually by long-lived anti-anxiety drugs such as Klonapin) used in treatment centers or in office-based treatment.  Even the anti-anxiety drugs have to be backed out of gradually. Otherwise, getting sober is extremely hard work, involving the sweats and all that goes with the adrenalin surges. I'm sure that there is newer work on the neurobiochemistry of addiction.  We have a tragic example of what alcohol addiction does in my sister's family:  her daughter in her 30's who is totally disabled neurorologically and also physically:  she is in a wheelchair.  One of the lobes of her brain has been destroyed substantially, wiping out her more recent memory.  A combo of eating disorders as is often found in young women, coupled with alcoholism has especially bad consequences.  Many older chronic alcoholics can suffer from this, especially if they do not eat much.  Actually, there are instances of severe eating disorders alone that have these neurological consequences, but adding alcohol to the mix hastens the brain destruction.  Always, it's the adrenalin surge that comes with withdrawal that spurs on the addiction, for only alcohol or Xanax, etc can alleviate it.  The adrenalin surge can cause convulsions if not attended to.

In all my years, I never knew what actually cause the convulsions. I just knew withdrawals did. You explained that in a very clear way. Thank you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 02:28:39 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Yep = she is an adult. And even is she was not, my 16 y.o flies by himself. I do not think that Misty was accompanied because she is a 'child' but because it was a guarantee that she would show up where she is supposed to. She is not known for being responsible!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

BBM.. yeah, she can't seem to remember what she was doing the night she "misplaced" a 5 year old child...not very responsible.  ::MonkeyMad::

Misty was coming off a 3 day drug binge the night Haleigh disappeared.  It's possible that Misty was in a huge self-made fog.  Isn't that the reason that druggies keep taking drugs?  I don't give much credence to anything Misty says about facts, for she doesn't know.  She's only believable when she talks about how she feels at any particular time IMO. 

Everytime I have ever seen her, she looks like she is either high, or going or coming on one. I doubt if she has had a lucid day in months. Even the day she was all cleaned up in the Orlando Airport, she looked giddy and happy to me.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/happysmile.gif)

That is still no excuse. A 5 year old child disappeared on Misty's watch.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 11, 2009, 02:29:00 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



Pffft Granny's gone wild.. Ok I will stop, sorry, Fanny started it .. Hi Fanny  ::MonkeyKiss:: I Dsn   ::MonkeyKiss::  Hi monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyDevil::

Hi Trimm, hope you are well  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 02:30:37 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Since Mr. Watts has been covering this case, his articles have been full of erroneous information and opinions stated as facts.

I take everything he writes with a huge grain of salt.

Courtney has stated that she did not know who was in the car Donna was driving.

Mr. Watts said she recognized who was in the car. How does he know this?! (He doesn't.)

He called her an opportunist, and said she lied to police. Was Mr. Watts present during the road rage incident?! (No.)

He called Courtney an opportunist for appearing on NG. Well, she certainly was NOT appearing to get her 15 minutes of fame. She did not allow her face to be shown!

What person wanting fame hides her face while on camera?

I really, really dislike people attacking innocent victims. And the only points Mr. Watts attacks Courtney on are his opinions. Not facts.

He uses his opinions to back up his theories to sway things to his thinking. And he states these opinions as if the are facts.

Again, I take everything he writes with a grain of salt. He has even had to retract some statements he has said in his articles. Not my nomination for a Pulitzer prize winner.

JMO.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 02:34:30 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



Pffft Granny's gone wild.. Ok I will stop, sorry, Fanny started it .. Hi Fanny  ::MonkeyKiss:: I Dsn   ::MonkeyKiss::  Hi monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::

Good to see ya, Searching, you lovable pumpkin head! ;-)

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 11, 2009, 02:37:19 PM
Misty acts like someone that has a split personality....she looks and talks different...soft voice, acting like a little girl , then we see her speaking out cocky looking older....wth is going on with her?
Perhaps Misty suffers from dissociative disorder, an uncommon condition under the broad heading of anxiety disorders.  It can be frightening to be afflicted with dissociation.  Some victims do not remember previous states of mind (the "other" personality), and are perplexed when realize they are dressing like the "other" personality.  It sounds a bit spooky, and it's not all that common, but really, most people dissociate in minor ways, but there are no eye-opening events as is minor.

No disrespect intended to MyMonkey or Strayze, but I think Misty suffers from Drugged Out Juvenile Delinquent Disorder.  I think she's every bit as masterful at manipulation as Casey Anthony.  This little broad has participated in stuff that some of us never even heard of until we were twice her age. 

I love your description Numbersgirl!  Misty has certainly been around the town at her tender age of 17 with a fourth grade education.  An experienced druggie and an opportunist for acquiring drugs.   Her entire family seems to be the same, and her parents are both drugged out with seemingly little care for anything but their next fix and whatever criminal scheme they will use to attain it.

I surely haven't participated in a threesome, and I am over 60, so I guess the time for that is past.  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

pfffttttt  you'd be surprised at some of the much more umm educated women that do participate in that and more... just sayin..oh and no, I do not partake in those activities.Just for the record..    ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.bloggernews.net/122589

BNN Exclusive: Richard Grund Speaks Out

just an fyi in case not seen yet.   


Thanks, Searching. I had not seen that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 11, 2009, 02:45:44 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



Pffft Granny's gone wild.. Ok I will stop, sorry, Fanny started it .. Hi Fanny  ::MonkeyKiss:: I Dsn   ::MonkeyKiss::  Hi monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::

Good to see ya, Searching, you lovable pumpkin head! ;-)

     (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/hello/ani-p.gif)

Hi Brandi,great to see you and have missed you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 02:48:17 PM
Brandi, I agree with you on your last post, how do we really know for sure what really happened with Courtney, Donna and Misty? And yes, if you want your 15 minutes of fame, I would think you would want your face shown, imo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 02:48:39 PM
Where I'm sitting it sure doesn't look like anyone is looking out for Jr. It makes me ill that he could grab at Ron's gun, I sure hope that he can't reach it  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I feel the same way, Rosie!  So very scared for Jr.  And astounded at the apparent lack of action on the part of DCF on his behalf.  With their not so good reputation in the Florida area, IMO, one would think they'd be all over this, especially with the world watching.  Removing Jr. would have been the FIRST thing I would have done.  And it still isn't too late.  IMO.  What are they waiting for?   ::MonkeyMad::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 11, 2009, 02:52:00 PM
Misty acts like someone that has a split personality....she looks and talks different...soft voice, acting like a little girl , then we see her speaking out cocky looking older....wth is going on with her?
Perhaps Misty suffers from dissociative disorder, an uncommon condition under the broad heading of anxiety disorders.  It can be frightening to be afflicted with dissociation.  Some victims do not remember previous states of mind (the "other" personality), and are perplexed when realize they are dressing like the "other" personality.  It sounds a bit spooky, and it's not all that common, but really, most people dissociate in minor ways, but there are no eye-opening events as is minor.

No disrespect intended to MyMonkey or Strayze, but I think Misty suffers from Drugged Out Juvenile Delinquent Disorder.  I think she's every bit as masterful at manipulation as Casey Anthony.  This little broad has participated in stuff that some of us never even heard of until we were twice her age. 

I love your description Numbersgirl!  Misty has certainly been around the town at her tender age of 17 with a fourth grade education.  An experienced druggie and an opportunist for acquiring drugs.   Her entire family seems to be the same, and her parents are both drugged out with seemingly little care for anything but their next fix and whatever criminal scheme they will use to attain it.

I surely haven't participated in a threesome, and I am over 60, so I guess the time for that is past.  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

pfffttttt  you'd be surprised at some of the much more umm educated women that do participate in that and more... just sayin..oh and no, I do not partake in those activities.Just for the record..    ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.bloggernews.net/122589

BNN Exclusive: Richard Grund Speaks Out

just an fyi in case not seen yet.   


Thanks, Searching. I had not seen that.
you're welcome Blu.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 11, 2009, 02:55:50 PM
Brandi, I agree with you on your last post, how do we really know for sure what really happened with Courtney, Donna and Misty? And yes, if you want your 15 minutes of fame, I would think you would want your face shown, imo.

I agree NRCG and that is what has led me to the place I am on this, as you may know, I was disappointed and upset at TM in the beginning BECAUSE of the circus the road rage incident caused,how ever, I have calmed down and thought about it and well, I think that D Brock just went too far with the role playing she was doing with Misty,that is not TM's fault, that is all on D Brock. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 02:58:00 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



Hi! DSNTSLP. I guess the world has passed us by........... ::MonkeyDevil2::

Is ok.. Ya didn't miss anything. 

 ::MonkeyShocked::

From what I hear. 

 ::MonkeyEek::

Honest. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 03:00:56 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Since Mr. Watts has been covering this case, his articles have been full of erroneous information and opinions stated as facts.

I take everything he writes with a huge grain of salt.

Courtney has stated that she did not know who was in the car Donna was driving.

Mr. Watts said she recognized who was in the car. How does he know this?! (He doesn't.)

He called her an opportunist, and said she lied to police. Was Mr. Watts present during the road rage incident?! (No.)

He called Courtney an opportunist for appearing on NG. Well, she certainly was NOT appearing to get her 15 minutes of fame. She did not allow her face to be shown!

What person wanting fame hides her face while on camera?

I really, really dislike people attacking innocent victims. And the only points Mr. Watts attacks Courtney on are his opinions. Not facts.

He uses his opinions to back up his theories to sway things to his thinking. And he states these opinions as if the are facts.

Again, I take everything he writes with a grain of salt. He has even had to retract some statements he has said in his articles. Not my nomination for a Pulitzer prize winner.

JMO.



A big thing that sticks out at me is that all these media types seem to want to be one-up on the others. And for him to say he "blogged" the news about the failed test and the "MEDIA" picked it up and caused the problems for people getting "hot" at Misty. Did he really feel what he "blogged" would not make the "media" perk up and print it?  How irresponsible is that. Did he think the internet was going to keep it secret? Twitter, twitter.  I hate to tell him,  but he is sort of the "media" and his words go straight out on the internet and beyond.

I am still trying to see where he said he did/did not know Courtney. All I have found is shame of her for her 15mins of glory. I still want to know what he meant by that. I think Misty/Donna flipped off, followed, harrassed the wrong person. She didn't pick them, they picked her. That's the way I feel about it till I see something official that changes my mind. Inuendo by a "blogger/media type doesn't cut it for me. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 03:03:22 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



Hi! DSNTSLP. I guess the world has passed us by........... ::MonkeyDevil2::

Is ok.. Ya didn't miss anything. 

 ::MonkeyShocked::

From what I hear. 

 ::MonkeyEek::

Honest. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::

::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on October 11, 2009, 03:04:28 PM
Brandi, All good points in your post. I think it is evident to all that the person seeking 15 minutes of fame is Mr. Watts. I can't see how his reporting of this incident does anything positive to find Haleigh. So much diversion and no obvious results, IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 03:04:37 PM
Brandi, I agree with you on your last post, how do we really know for sure what really happened with Courtney, Donna and Misty? And yes, if you want your 15 minutes of fame, I would think you would want your face shown, imo.

I agree NRCG and that is what has led me to the place I am on this, as you may know, I was disappointed and upset at TM in the beginning BECAUSE of the circus the road rage incident caused,how ever, I have calmed down and thought about it and well, I think that D Brock just went too far with the role playing she was doing with Misty,that is not TM's fault, that is all on D Brock. JMO
Yes, it just bothers me that a woman that age, not that she is old, but to be so reckless, and not thinking, some innocent person could have been hurt or killed  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 11, 2009, 03:06:36 PM
Searching, lol.   Of course you don't!



Hi! DSNTSLP. I guess the world has passed us by........... ::MonkeyDevil2::

Is ok.. Ya didn't miss anything. 

 ::MonkeyShocked::

From what I hear. 

 ::MonkeyEek::

Honest. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::


mmm hmmm Wyks, we get the picture. not the image I wanted of you wyks.. LOLOLOL  ::MonkeyDevil:: But I still love ya.   ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 03:06:37 PM
Brandi, I agree with you on your last post, how do we really know for sure what really happened with Courtney, Donna and Misty? And yes, if you want your 15 minutes of fame, I would think you would want your face shown, imo.

I agree NRCG and that is what has led me to the place I am on this, as you may know, I was disappointed and upset at TM in the beginning BECAUSE of the circus the road rage incident caused,how ever, I have calmed down and thought about it and well, I think that D Brock just went too far with the role playing she was doing with Misty,that is not TM's fault, that is all on D Brock. JMO

I keep having the feeling that Tim Miller didn't really know Donna that well, or what she was capable of. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 03:07:26 PM
Brandi, I agree with you on your last post, how do we really know for sure what really happened with Courtney, Donna and Misty? And yes, if you want your 15 minutes of fame, I would think you would want your face shown, imo.

I agree NRCG and that is what has led me to the place I am on this, as you may know, I was disappointed and upset at TM in the beginning BECAUSE of the circus the road rage incident caused,how ever, I have calmed down and thought about it and well, I think that D Brock just went too far with the role playing she was doing with Misty,that is not TM's fault, that is all on D Brock. JMO
Yes, it just bothers me that a woman that age, not that she is old, but to be so reckless, and not thinking, some innocent person could have been hurt or killed  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Am still waiting for 'the real story' to come out.  But for the story, as it stands right now, yeah, I agree with what you've said. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 03:08:24 PM

mmm hmmm Wyks, we get the picture. not the image I wanted of you wyks.. LOLOLOL  ::MonkeyDevil:: But I still love ya.   ::MonkeyTease::

 ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 11, 2009, 03:08:39 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Yep = she is an adult. And even is she was not, my 16 y.o flies by himself. I do not think that Misty was accompanied because she is a 'child' but because it was a guarantee that she would show up where she is supposed to. She is not known for being responsible!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

BBM.. yeah, she can't seem to remember what she was doing the night she "misplaced" a 5 year old child...not very responsible.  ::MonkeyMad::

Misty was coming off a 3 day drug binge the night Haleigh disappeared.  It's possible that Misty was in a huge self-made fog.  Isn't that the reason that druggies keep taking drugs?  I don't give much credence to anything Misty says about facts, for she doesn't know.  She's only believable when she talks about how she feels at any particular time IMO. 

Everytime I have ever seen her, she looks like she is either high, or going or coming on one. I doubt if she has had a lucid day in months. Even the day she was all cleaned up in the Orlando Airport, she looked giddy and happy to me.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/happysmile.gif)

That is still no excuse. A 5 year old child disappeared on Misty's watch.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

In Misty's most recent CBS appearance where her hair was long, she appeared to be zonked out as if she were on some sort of downer.  She certainly did not seem to be herself.  Ordinarily interviewees get over the initial panic and settle down.  Looks like Misty had a big dose of something so she arrived presettled down and then some- - -.  Better living through chemistry I guess.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 03:11:10 PM
Brandi, I agree with you on your last post, how do we really know for sure what really happened with Courtney, Donna and Misty? And yes, if you want your 15 minutes of fame, I would think you would want your face shown, imo.

I agree NRCG and that is what has led me to the place I am on this, as you may know, I was disappointed and upset at TM in the beginning BECAUSE of the circus the road rage incident caused,how ever, I have calmed down and thought about it and well, I think that D Brock just went too far with the role playing she was doing with Misty,that is not TM's fault, that is all on D Brock. JMO

I keep having the feeling that Tim Miller didn't really know Donna that well, or what she was capable of. JMO

Am wondering the same thing, Fanny.  Cuz for one thing, Tim has always been a stickler for no pics of their searches.  Am thinking he may have had no clue about all those pics she supposedly had up, for example.  Doesn't sound like him at all.  IMO.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 11, 2009, 03:16:25 PM
For clarification, my line of work is a chemist/biochemist at a medical school.  I certainly admire those who work directly with addicts/alcoholics and those people who have climbed out of the addiction spiral.  Addiction causes irreversible changes to the brain, causing a great build up of receptors for drug/alcohol.  Withdrawal causes great surges of adrenalin which are most unpleasant.  Hence the need for gradual withdrawal (usually by long-lived anti-anxiety drugs such as Klonapin) used in treatment centers or in office-based treatment.  Even the anti-anxiety drugs have to be backed out of gradually. Otherwise, getting sober is extremely hard work, involving the sweats and all that goes with the adrenalin surges. I'm sure that there is newer work on the neurobiochemistry of addiction.  We have a tragic example of what alcohol addiction does in my sister's family:  her daughter in her 30's who is totally disabled neurorologically and also physically:  she is in a wheelchair.  One of the lobes of her brain has been destroyed substantially, wiping out her more recent memory.  A combo of eating disorders as is often found in young women, coupled with alcoholism has especially bad consequences.  Many older chronic alcoholics can suffer from this, especially if they do not eat much.  Actually, there are instances of severe eating disorders alone that have these neurological consequences, but adding alcohol to the mix hastens the brain destruction.  Always, it's the adrenalin surge that comes with withdrawal that spurs on the addiction, for only alcohol or Xanax, etc can alleviate it.  The adrenalin surge can cause convulsions if not attended to.

In all my years, I never knew what actually cause the convulsions. I just knew withdrawals did. You explained that in a very clear way. Thank you.

Thank you Fannie!  My interest in the chemistry of addiction is a personal interest because of a long family history of severe addiction in teenagers, and those in 20's-30's.  Reminds me a bit of the Satsuma crowd.  I do hope for the sake of Junior that someone wakes up soon.  But then, again, they may have never seen what sobriety offers.  So sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 11, 2009, 03:24:33 PM
whew!! hi everybody...just caught up on this thread...I think...
am still not clear when and where and with whom the 3 some happened? someone help a monkey out with that one? or direct me to the page that it was posted on..thanks..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 11, 2009, 03:27:05 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Yep = she is an adult. And even is she was not, my 16 y.o flies by himself. I do not think that Misty was accompanied because she is a 'child' but because it was a guarantee that she would show up where she is supposed to. She is not known for being responsible!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

BBM.. yeah, she can't seem to remember what she was doing the night she "misplaced" a 5 year old child...not very responsible.  ::MonkeyMad::

Misty was coming off a 3 day drug binge the night Haleigh disappeared.  It's possible that Misty was in a huge self-made fog.  Isn't that the reason that druggies keep taking drugs?  I don't give much credence to anything Misty says about facts, for she doesn't know.  She's only believable when she talks about how she feels at any particular time IMO. 

Everytime I have ever seen her, she looks like she is either high, or going or coming on one. I doubt if she has had a lucid day in months. Even the day she was all cleaned up in the Orlando Airport, she looked giddy and happy to me.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/happysmile.gif)

That is still no excuse. A 5 year old child disappeared on Misty's watch.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

In Misty's most recent CBS appearance where her hair was long, she appeared to be zonked out as if she were on some sort of downer.  She certainly did not seem to be herself.  Ordinarily interviewees get over the initial panic and settle down.  Looks like Misty had a big dose of something so she arrived presettled down and then some- - -.  Better living through chemistry I guess.
Maybe Misty doubled up  on her anxiety meds  that morning....after it was said she would not share them with other family members(sorry no  link just remembered reading this last week on another post)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 03:28:56 PM
Brandi, I agree with you on your last post, how do we really know for sure what really happened with Courtney, Donna and Misty? And yes, if you want your 15 minutes of fame, I would think you would want your face shown, imo.

I agree NRCG and that is what has led me to the place I am on this, as you may know, I was disappointed and upset at TM in the beginning BECAUSE of the circus the road rage incident caused,how ever, I have calmed down and thought about it and well, I think that D Brock just went too far with the role playing she was doing with Misty,that is not TM's fault, that is all on D Brock. JMO

I keep having the feeling that Tim Miller didn't really know Donna that well, or what she was capable of. JMO

Am wondering the same thing, Fanny.  Cuz for one thing, Tim has always been a stickler for no pics of their searches.  Am thinking he may have had no clue about all those pics she supposedly had up, for example.  Doesn't sound like him at all.  IMO.


I did not see the pic's on the MS site but was told they were of a TES-FL field training session.  It was a mock search and as such it would stand to reason that the pic's looked like they were taken at a real search.  The other thing I was told was that some of the pic's came from the TES site itself.  I can not vouch for any of this as I did not see the pic's myself.  Did anyone get screen shots?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 03:34:02 PM
Brandi, I agree with you on your last post, how do we really know for sure what really happened with Courtney, Donna and Misty? And yes, if you want your 15 minutes of fame, I would think you would want your face shown, imo.

I agree NRCG and that is what has led me to the place I am on this, as you may know, I was disappointed and upset at TM in the beginning BECAUSE of the circus the road rage incident caused,how ever, I have calmed down and thought about it and well, I think that D Brock just went too far with the role playing she was doing with Misty,that is not TM's fault, that is all on D Brock. JMO

I keep having the feeling that Tim Miller didn't really know Donna that well, or what she was capable of. JMO

Am wondering the same thing, Fanny.  Cuz for one thing, Tim has always been a stickler for no pics of their searches.  Am thinking he may have had no clue about all those pics she supposedly had up, for example.  Doesn't sound like him at all.  IMO.


I did not see the pic's on the MS site but was told they were of a TES-FL field training session.  It was a mock search and as such it would stand to reason that the pic's looked like they were taken at a real search.  The other thing I was told was that some of the pic's came from the TES site itself.  I can not vouch for any of this as I did not see the pic's myself.  Did anyone get screen shots?

One of the monkeys her said to take screen shots before she took them down, but whether or not anyone did is another matter. I for one did not. However, I did see them.

But wouldn't those pictures still be of the volunteers that had signed up for TES? Would not their privacy still be protected?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 03:36:07 PM
[quote author=Fanny Mae link=topic=6215.msg978897#msg978897

One of the monkeys her said to take screen shots before she took them down, but whether or not anyone did is another matter. I for one did not. However, I did see them.

But wouldn't those pictures still be of the volunteers that had signed up for TES? Would not their privacy still be protected?
[/quote]

I also meant to say was were the pictures her's to take and post on a public MySpace?  :smt102


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 03:37:33 PM
That would be my question too.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 03:40:00 PM
Brandi, I agree with you on your last post, how do we really know for sure what really happened with Courtney, Donna and Misty? And yes, if you want your 15 minutes of fame, I would think you would want your face shown, imo.

I agree NRCG and that is what has led me to the place I am on this, as you may know, I was disappointed and upset at TM in the beginning BECAUSE of the circus the road rage incident caused,how ever, I have calmed down and thought about it and well, I think that D Brock just went too far with the role playing she was doing with Misty,that is not TM's fault, that is all on D Brock. JMO

I keep having the feeling that Tim Miller didn't really know Donna that well, or what she was capable of. JMO

Am wondering the same thing, Fanny.  Cuz for one thing, Tim has always been a stickler for no pics of their searches.  Am thinking he may have had no clue about all those pics she supposedly had up, for example.  Doesn't sound like him at all.  IMO.


I did not see the pic's on the MS site but was told they were of a TES-FL field training session.  It was a mock search and as such it would stand to reason that the pic's looked like they were taken at a real search.  The other thing I was told was that some of the pic's came from the TES site itself.  I can not vouch for any of this as I did not see the pic's myself.  Did anyone get screen shots?

I did not get screen shots. But I did look at all of them.

She had an album of the Haleigh search and the Caylee search and another of the Training session, among other albums.

I was amazed that people were posing for these pictures, since they all supposedly knew pictures were not allowed. And in some, there were shots of other people taking pictures.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 03:42:36 PM
When you say posing do you mean at the command center or in the field? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 03:44:24 PM
When you say posing do you mean at the command center or in the field? 

I also saw pictures of people searching, who apparently did not know their pictures were being taken.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 03:45:31 PM
Thank you Brandi.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 03:49:05 PM
Thank you Brandi.



Welcome.

When I was looking through them, I mentioned that I felt very uncomfortable looking at them, since I thought they were not supposed to have been taken in the first place.

She had many pictures on her site, and until the other day with the road rage incident coverage, apparently had them all public.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 11, 2009, 03:56:55 PM
Thank you Brandi.



Welcome.

When I was looking through them, I mentioned that I felt very uncomfortable looking at them, since I thought they were not supposed to have been taken in the first place.

She had many pictures on her site, and until the other day with the road rage incident coverage, apparently had them all public.



I looked at the search pics  at least 100 of them were poste,also looked at the pics of Princess Kaliegh(sp) as she was referred to I dont know if this was her child or grandchild, I do recall the name was so similar to Caylee and HaLeigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 04:01:05 PM
SNIPED

http://www.bloggernews.net/122589

BNN Exclusive: Richard Grund Speaks Out

just an fyi in case not seen yet.   


[/quote]

Thanks Searching. I will listen to it.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-greet013.gif)
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Im here & cant wait to hear this!    Mega lawsuit coming down the pike - justifiably so        Hey Cindy, so much for blood money, kiss it goodbye!    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 11, 2009, 04:01:09 PM
[/b]Seahorse

Good Morning,

Sorry, I was not clear at all... Tick off Misty and she will tell you what happened.. people feel FAB ma, gma, is involved, MC will spill her guts when she is teed off, pampering, isn't going to help, make her mad and she will open her mouth.

To do what?  nothing, because, a escort service may just pop him in a limo and do nothin' "only pictures to show Misty", that Ron is
looking for a new stepmother...tick misty off...that is the way to go..only, it is very risky.

She is mellow and idealist thinking, light is at the end of the tunnel, when she sees it is over.. MC, may tell the guts of the story.

IMO if Ron had something to do with this yes it might work but if Misty was in this alone she would take it till her death.Why would she go to jail and loose her man.

Blonde,

Hymmm...something for me to think about....


Here are child endangerment laws, this is likely why they are covering there tails:

http://www.ehow.com/about_5412537_child-endangerment-laws.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 04:05:00 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: klaasend on October 11, 2009, 04:10:39 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now

Sorry, I simply cannot stand listening to Simon and his wife.  For some reason it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 11, 2009, 04:13:08 PM
Mr. Watts, investigative reporter, needs to brush up on legal statutes. He says Donna went to New York with Misty because she is a minor and it was required for her to travel. NOT TRUE. Misty became an adult legally on the day she got married. She is and will continue to be an emancipated minor and is considered to be an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of any other adult. Aside from that fact, children often fly alone to visit family. Ten year olds board planes every day to visit non custodial parents,etc. There are too many inconsistencies in this story, IMO.

Yep = she is an adult. And even is she was not, my 16 y.o flies by himself. I do not think that Misty was accompanied because she is a 'child' but because it was a guarantee that she would show up where she is supposed to. She is not known for being responsible!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

BBM.. yeah, she can't seem to remember what she was doing the night she "misplaced" a 5 year old child...not very responsible.  ::MonkeyMad::

Misty was coming off a 3 day drug binge the night Haleigh disappeared.  It's possible that Misty was in a huge self-made fog.  Isn't that the reason that druggies keep taking drugs?  I don't give much credence to anything Misty says about facts, for she doesn't know.  She's only believable when she talks about how she feels at any particular time IMO. 

Everytime I have ever seen her, she looks like she is either high, or going or coming on one. I doubt if she has had a lucid day in months. Even the day she was all cleaned up in the Orlando Airport, she looked giddy and happy to me.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/happysmile.gif)

That is still no excuse. A 5 year old child disappeared on Misty's watch.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

In Misty's most recent CBS appearance where her hair was long, she appeared to be zonked out as if she were on some sort of downer.  She certainly did not seem to be herself.  Ordinarily interviewees get over the initial panic and settle down.  Looks like Misty had a big dose of something so she arrived presettled down and then some- - -.  Better living through chemistry I guess.

The Beast is downright evil looking, "Chuckie" (she resembled), contraband or not, she is an ugly person and has a very dark soul.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 04:13:39 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now

Sorry, I simply cannot stand listening to Simon and his wife.  For some reason it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me  ::MonkeyCool::

I feel the same way.

And the show is more of a sideshow than anything else.

I don't think it helps find Haleigh.

JMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 04:20:57 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now

Sorry, I simply cannot stand listening to Simon and his wife.  For some reason it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me  ::MonkeyCool::

I feel the same way.

And the show is more of a sideshow than anything else.

I don't think it helps find Haleigh.

JMO.

I cant either, but Im listening as far as what Rev Grund is saying - as far as Haleigh's case it is a sideshow


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 04:24:43 PM
Cookie, I don't think we know, I guess we are assuming the threesome happened during the three day bender, maybe Nay Nay, Misty and WBGreg, but that is just a guess  ::MonkeyEek:: And a sickening guess it is  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 04:25:16 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now

Sorry, I simply cannot stand listening to Simon and his wife.  For some reason it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me  ::MonkeyCool::

I feel the same way.

And the show is more of a sideshow than anything else.

I don't think it helps find Haleigh.

JMO.

I cant either, but Im listening as far as what Rev Grund is saying - as far as Haleigh's case it is a sideshow

Well, keep us posted if there is anything to report, please ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 04:29:58 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now

Sorry, I simply cannot stand listening to Simon and his wife.  For some reason it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me  ::MonkeyCool::

I feel the same way.

And the show is more of a sideshow than anything else.

I don't think it helps find Haleigh.

JMO.

I cant either, but Im listening as far as what Rev Grund is saying - as far as Haleigh's case it is a sideshow

Well, keep us posted if there is anything to report, please ;-)

The portion I wanted to hear is over - Rev Grund spoke about what the Anthonys did to him & his son & how the NE exploited this ridiculous story of demonic porportion & he's not going to let them get away it & I personally think he will prevail.   You can hear the pain in his voice, Id be fuming too.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 04:32:29 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now

Sorry, I simply cannot stand listening to Simon and his wife.  For some reason it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me  ::MonkeyCool::

I feel the same way.

And the show is more of a sideshow than anything else.

I don't think it helps find Haleigh.

JMO.

I cant either, but Im listening as far as what Rev Grund is saying - as far as Haleigh's case it is a sideshow

Well, keep us posted if there is anything to report, please ;-)

The portion I wanted to hear is over - Rev Grund spoke about what the Anthonys did to him & his son & how the NE exploited this ridiculous story of demonic porportion & he's not going to let them get away it & I personally think he will prevail.   You can hear the pain in his voice, Id be fuming too.

Thanks, Capp.

That's so sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 11, 2009, 04:40:40 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now

Sorry, I simply cannot stand listening to Simon and his wife.  For some reason it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me  ::MonkeyCool::

I feel the same way.

And the show is more of a sideshow than anything else.

I don't think it helps find Haleigh.

JMO.

I cant either, but Im listening as far as what Rev Grund is saying - as far as Haleigh's case it is a sideshow

Well, keep us posted if there is anything to report, please ;-)

The portion I wanted to hear is over - Rev Grund spoke about what the Anthonys did to him & his son & how the NE exploited this ridiculous story of demonic porportion & he's not going to let them get away it & I personally think he will prevail.   You can hear the pain in his voice, Id be fuming too.

thanks,Cappy.I didn't get to hear it.I am lurking in and out   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 11, 2009, 04:54:28 PM
When you say posing do you mean at the command center or in the field? 

Some did look like at the command center, and some look like they may have been inside an RV. Others looked as though they were at or inside a tent. Besides the searching pics.  Just what I can remember.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 11, 2009, 05:46:58 PM
The Levi Page Show
Levi Page Show
Date / Time: 10/11/2009 9:00 PM

Category: Current Events

Call-in Number: (347) 838-9781

 
   
Jon Gosselin formery of "Jon and Kate plus 8" spars with HLN's Nancy Grace on "The Insider!" Body Language Expert Dr. Lillian Glass joins us to analyze the TV smackdown! Also, Investigative journalist Steph Watts, Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla, and Crime Analyst Sheryl McCollum discuss the latest headlines in the cases of Caylee Anthony and Haleigh Cummings.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LeviPage


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 11, 2009, 06:09:32 PM
 ::MonkeyCheer2::
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now

Sorry, I simply cannot stand listening to Simon and his wife.  For some reason it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me  ::MonkeyCool::

I feel the same way.

And the show is more of a sideshow than anything else.

I don't think it helps find Haleigh.

JMO.

I cant either, but Im listening as far as what Rev Grund is saying - as far as Haleigh's case it is a sideshow

Well, keep us posted if there is anything to report, please ;-)

The portion I wanted to hear is over - Rev Grund spoke about what the Anthonys did to him & his son & how the NE exploited this ridiculous story of demonic porportion & he's not going to let them get away it & I personally think he will prevail.   You can hear the pain in his voice, Id be fuming too.

Thanks, Capp.

That's so sad.

Cindy is absolutely evil.  She had Dominic Casey investigate the Grunds.  Whatever did Grund ever do to set Cindy off?  OK,  it doesn't take much, or anything at all.  Cindy is downright paranoid most of the time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 06:45:19 PM
Thanks for the pic info all.

Who is this Levi guy?  Do you guys like his show?  Is he fair etc?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 11, 2009, 06:50:08 PM
Thanks for the pic info all.

Who is this Levi guy?  Do you guys like his show?  Is he fair etc?



I've listened to him a few times and he seemed fair. I'm interested in hearing if  Steph Watts or Leonard Padilla have anything new or interesting to share.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 06:52:44 PM
Thanks for the pic info all.

Who is this Levi guy?  Do you guys like his show?  Is he fair etc?

I have heard his name probably from this forum, but I have not read anything he has written to my knowledge nor listened to his Internet radio show.

His page is at: http://levipageshow.blogspot.com/

O/T: dsntslp: I left you a post today at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg979014#msg979014


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 11, 2009, 07:05:47 PM
Topics bounced about on Blogger Talk Radio:

Steph Watts has credit cards problems. TJ Hart says that Steph Watts has a job to do. And that he (TJ) would just let sleeping dogs lie for the present regarding the Courtney, Donna, and Misty road rage thing. Sounds like, in other words, there will be more to come regarding this matter.

Misty headed to NY City this coming Thursday. TJ asking for media to be there when she arrives.

Johnnie and Connie returning to Florida. Ruby Kanger to remain in Kentucky.

Teresa Neves lives in Fruitland.

Hank Croslin Sr back in Satsuma and when asked Hank stated that he believes his daughter. However, it was also stated that Hank agreed with just about all of questions that was put to him.  Cobra has to be in court tomorrow or sometime this week. Cobra stated that he was going to try and sit down with Hank Sr. and smoke a black and mild and have a little chat.

TJ Hart: Rozie Franco was puzzled about all the info that Tim Miller revealed.

TJ Hart: Mentioned the female that Tim Miller referred to that was in the bar and that informed him that Misty was not at home, she was snorting Oxycontin, etc.. TJ and Cobra are familiar with this female and stated that they wanted to talk with her as well, but that was around the time that Cobra got into trouble, around the time of the Blue Crab Festival.  Both Cobra and TJ stated that their was more to this females story.  However she has left the area.

There was also another female that TJ and Cobra mentioned (they referred to as party #2) that was suppose to be at the party or in the know who is currently incarcerated. They are wondering when this female will be heard from.

According to Cobra and TJ,  Chad Griffis and Ronald Cummings were pretty good friends.  It was stated that Chad would drop HaLeigh off and pick HaLeigh up on some of Crystal's weekends to have HaLeigh and Jr.  It was mentioned that Chad got the short end of the stick, marriage wa on lay-away., $300.00 was owing, and Crystal got caught half naked with another guy.

There was talk about Ronald allegedly paid or was going to pay Sarah Sheffield to beat up Amber Brooks.   Also mentioned was a possible warrant out for Sarah Sheffield in Jacksonville.

Cobra believes that Tommy Croslin lied about banging on the mh door at Ronald's the night Haleigh went missing.

Regarding the blind man, Tommy and Lisa Croslin: speculation in why the blind man was up at 4 a.m.. It was stated that this was planned (whatever that means, your guess is as good as mine as to who would have planned it)  ::MonkeyEek::  It was stated that we will see when this goes to trial.

The show ended with TJ Hart stating that there have been reports of sightings of HaLeigh in Georgia. He said to stay tune to Blogger News as if there/he will be talking more about these sightings.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on October 11, 2009, 07:06:00 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/10/11/Haleigh-Anthony-Update



Live now

Sorry, I simply cannot stand listening to Simon and his wife.  For some reason it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me  ::MonkeyCool::

I feel the same way.

And the show is more of a sideshow than anything else.

I don't think it helps find Haleigh.

JMO.

I cant either, but Im listening as far as what Rev Grund is saying - as far as Haleigh's case it is a sideshow

Well, keep us posted if there is anything to report, please ;-)

The portion I wanted to hear is over - Rev Grund spoke about what the Anthonys did to him & his son & how the NE exploited this ridiculous story of demonic porportion & he's not going to let them get away it & I personally think he will prevail.   You can hear the pain in his voice, Id be fuming too.

thanks,Cappy.I didn't get to hear it.I am lurking in and out   ::MonkeyKiss::

Most welcome.    If anyone wants to hear Rev Grund's call you can go to that link above & they have a playback of the show.   His call was right at the beginning, personally I listened to Richard & then turned it off


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 07:11:23 PM
Topics bounced about on Blogger Talk Radio:

Steph Watts has credit cards problems. TJ Hart says that Steph Watts has a job to do. And that he (TJ) would just let sleeping dogs lie for the present regarding the Courtney, Donna, and Misty road rage thing. Sounds like, in other words, there will be more to come regarding this matter.

Misty headed to NY City this coming Thursday. TJ asking for media to be there when she arrives.

Johnnie and Connie returning to Florida. Ruby Kanger to remain in Kentucky.

Teresa Neves lives in Fruitland.

Hank Croslin Sr back in Satsuma and when asked Hank stated that he believes his daughter. However, it was also stated that Hank agreed with just about all of questions that was put to him.  Cobra has to be in court tomorrow or sometime this week. Cobra stated that he was going to try and sit down with Hank Sr. and smoke a black and mild and have a little chat.

TJ Hart: Rozie Franco was puzzled about all the info that Tim Miller revealed.

TJ Hart: Mentioned the female that Tim Miller referred to that was in the bar and that informed him that Misty was not at home, she was snorting Oxycontin, etc.. TJ and Cobra are familiar with this female and stated that they wanted to talk with her as well, but that was around the time that Cobra got into trouble, around the time of the Blue Crab Festival.  Both Cobra and TJ stated that their was more to this females story.  However she has left the area.

There was also another female that TJ and Cobra mentioned (they referred to as party #2) that was suppose to be at the party or in the know who is currently incarcerated. They are wondering when this female will be heard from.

According to Cobra and TJ,  Chad Griffis and Ronald Cummings were pretty good friends.  It was stated that Chad would drop HaLeigh off and pick HaLeigh up on some of Crystal's weekends to have HaLeigh and Jr.  It was mentioned that Chad got the short end of the stick, marriage wa on lay-away., $300.00 was owing, and Crystal got caught half naked with another guy.

There was talk about Ronald allegedly paid or was going to pay Sarah Sheffield to beat up Amber Brooks.   Also mentioned was a possible warrant out for Sarah Sheffield in Jacksonville.

Cobra believes that Tommy Croslin lied about banging on the mh door at Ronald's the night Haleigh went missing.

Regarding the blind man, Tommy and Lisa Croslin: speculation in why the blind man was up at 4 a.m.. It was stated that this was planned (whatever that means, your guess is as good as mine as to who would have planned it)  ::MonkeyEek::  It was stated that we will see when this goes to trial.

The show ended with TJ Hart stating that there have been reports of sightings of HaLeigh in Georgia. He said to stay tune to Blogger News as if there/he will be talking more about these sightings.

Thanks for this recap, Heart!

I just wish I knew who or what to believe.

 ::MonkeyConfused::

It would be great if Haleigh is in Georgia. I remember Marie Griffis said something about it being a possibility that Haleigh is in Georgia very early on in this case.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 11, 2009, 07:22:50 PM
Cookie, I don't think we know, I guess we are assuming the threesome happened during the three day bender, maybe Nay Nay, Misty and WBGreg, but that is just a guess  ::MonkeyEek:: And a sickening guess it is  ::MonkeyNoNo::

thanks for the reply Rosie...
it is a sickening thought isn't it? too bad these folks don't get jobs...then they might be too tired to think about these shenanigans let alone participate in them..jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 11, 2009, 07:27:55 PM
Thanks for the update....

snipped

Misty headed to NY City this coming Thursday. TJ asking for media to be there when she arrives.




Now why would TJ want the media to meet Misty? She's not a celebrity, Why make a big deal over her?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 11, 2009, 07:33:58 PM
Thanks,Heart.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 07:34:21 PM
Thanks for the update....

snipped

Misty headed to NY City this coming Thursday. TJ asking for media to be there when she arrives.




Now why would TJ want the media to meet Misty? She's not a celebrity, Why make a big deal over her?

She went to NYC last Thursday. I wonder if he really means she is going again this coming Thursday? (Another TV appearance, perhaps?)

No idea why TJ would want the media there to meet her!

Weird.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 11, 2009, 07:47:59 PM
Thanks for the update....

snipped

Misty headed to NY City this coming Thursday. TJ asking for media to be there when she arrives.




Now why would TJ want the media to meet Misty? She's not a celebrity, Why make a big deal over her?

She went to NYC last Thursday. I wonder if he really means she is going again this coming Thursday? (Another TV appearance, perhaps?)

No idea why TJ would want the media there to meet her!

Weird.
In order to ask her questions and see what comes out of her mouth this time, every time the chance arises.

She is now not lawyered up.  Not sure that what she says is admissible in a court of law, but if she continues to talk, it is probably a good thing to have it captured on camera or audio.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 11, 2009, 07:50:01 PM
Thanks for the update....

snipped

Misty headed to NY City this coming Thursday. TJ asking for media to be there when she arrives.




Now why would TJ want the media to meet Misty? She's not a celebrity, Why make a big deal over her?

She went to NYC last Thursday. I wonder if he really means she is going again this coming Thursday? (Another TV appearance, perhaps?)

No idea why TJ would want the media there to meet her!

Weird.
In order to ask her questions and see what comes out of her mouth this time, every time the chance arises.

She is now not lawyered up.  Not sure that what she says is admissible in a court of law, but if she continues to talk, it is probably a good thing to have it captured on camera or audio.

Oh and who knows, she just might have a meltdown right there on camera  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 11, 2009, 07:55:28 PM
Art Harris' response to a comment on his sight:

Geraldo Asks Art Harris to Talk Casey Anthony


linda–thanks for hanging in there and for your support; i will always give you what I know while protecting sources who ask to remain anonymous. That’s how we break things others don’t and give credit where credit is due…I think you saw we were right on target about Ron and Misty’s fighting during the week she was on the road … that lead to the divorce announcement, even though some attacked us for daring to suggest the kissy face video may have been a coverup for brewing tension between two love birds. Breaking up may be hard to do, but for some of our colleagues, saving face may be harder. — art

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/11/geraldo-asks-art-harris-to-talk-casey-anthony/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 11, 2009, 08:03:32 PM
Thanks,Heart.   ::MonkeyBike::

(http://dingo.care2.com/pictures/c2c/galleries/albums/156/413590859/Name_Calling/hand-waving.gif)
Trim!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 11, 2009, 08:14:53 PM
Thanks for the update....

snipped

Misty headed to NY City this coming Thursday. TJ asking for media to be there when she arrives.




Now why would TJ want the media to meet Misty? She's not a celebrity, Why make a big deal over her?
Not only was I wondering about that  ::MonkeyEek:: but many other things that Heart just posted  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 11, 2009, 08:24:15 PM
CBS was just promoting the appearance of Ron and Misty in a commercial during 60 Minutes.

It said ......Eight Months ago little HaLeigh Cummings disappeared.(picture of HaLeigh)
               Monday her Father ( picture of Ronald)
               and her step-mother (picture of Misty) tell what they know on the Early Show.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 08:25:30 PM
Testing my new avatar!

Thank you sooo much Brandi!

Truly!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 08:27:53 PM
CBS was just promoting the appearance of Ron and Misty in a commercial during 60 Minutes.

It said ......Eight Months ago little HaLeigh Cummings disappeared.(picture of HaLeigh)
               Monday her Father ( picture of Ronald)
               and her step-mother (picture of Misty) tell what they know on the Early Show.

Yeah, Misty's interview was taped last Friday in two parts. Part two is to be run tomorrow morning.

Ronald is supposed to be interviewed live Monday.

They won't be live together on the show.

That's how I understand it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 08:28:16 PM
Testing my new avatar!

Thank you sooo much Brandi!

Truly!

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 11, 2009, 08:30:52 PM
CBS was just promoting the appearance of Ron and Misty in a commercial during 60 Minutes.

It said ......Eight Months ago little HaLeigh Cummings disappeared.(picture of HaLeigh)
               Monday her Father ( picture of Ronald)
               and her step-mother (picture of Misty) tell what they know on the Early Show.

Yeah, Misty's interview was taped last Friday in two parts. Part two is to be run tomorrow morning.

Ronald is supposed to be interviewed live Monday.

They won't be live together on the show.

That's how I understand it.

That is what I understand also.
I found it interesting that they would promote the show during 60 Minutes, which is high dollar commercial time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 08:42:41 PM
Am sorry if this has already been posted and I missed it.


********

Haleigh’s Stepmom Maintains Innocence On National TV
Friday, October 09, 2009 10:42:31 AM

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/9/haleighs_stepmom_maintains_innocence_on_national_tv.html

NEW YORK -- The last person to see Haleigh Cummings alive appears on national television to maintain her innocence in the case of the missing 6-year-old.

Misty Croslin has come under the microscope in the case after reportedly failing lie detector tests, but on the CBS “Early Show” Friday, she said she has done nothing wrong.

“They just need to move on and look for the right person, because they’re focusing on me, but I’m not the one who has Haleigh,” Croslin said. “I don’t know where she is. They need to look for the person who does have Haleigh.”

Just this week, news came of Croslin’s divorce from Haleigh’s father. Days later, she was handcuffed on Interstate 4 following a road rage incident.

Croslin, 17, said she thinks someone in her husband’s family has the girl.

She also said she thinks Ronald Cummings is divorcing her because the stress of the whole ordeal is just too much. The couple married in March.

********

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 11, 2009, 08:48:08 PM
Am sorry if this has already been posted and I missed it.


********

Haleigh’s Stepmom Maintains Innocence On National TV
Friday, October 09, 2009 10:42:31 AM

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/9/haleighs_stepmom_maintains_innocence_on_national_tv.html

NEW YORK -- The last person to see Haleigh Cummings alive appears on national television to maintain her innocence in the case of the missing 6-year-old.

Misty Croslin has come under the microscope in the case after reportedly failing lie detector tests, but on the CBS “Early Show” Friday, she said she has done nothing wrong.

“They just need to move on and look for the right person, because they’re focusing on me, but I’m not the one who has Haleigh,” Croslin said. “I don’t know where she is. They need to look for the person who does have Haleigh.”

Just this week, news came of Croslin’s divorce from Haleigh’s father. Days later, she was handcuffed on Interstate 4 following a road rage incident.

Croslin, 17, said she thinks someone in her husband’s family has the girl.

She also said she thinks Ronald Cummings is divorcing her because the stress of the whole ordeal is just too much. The couple married in March.

********

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked:: 


Well we all know that is not exactly what Misty said, at least not in Part I of her interview.

Who was the author of that article  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 08:52:21 PM
Am sorry if this has already been posted and I missed it.


********

Haleigh’s Stepmom Maintains Innocence On National TV
Friday, October 09, 2009 10:42:31 AM

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/9/haleighs_stepmom_maintains_innocence_on_national_tv.html

NEW YORK -- The last person to see Haleigh Cummings alive appears on national television to maintain her innocence in the case of the missing 6-year-old.

Misty Croslin has come under the microscope in the case after reportedly failing lie detector tests, but on the CBS “Early Show” Friday, she said she has done nothing wrong.

“They just need to move on and look for the right person, because they’re focusing on me, but I’m not the one who has Haleigh,” Croslin said. “I don’t know where she is. They need to look for the person who does have Haleigh.”

Just this week, news came of Croslin’s divorce from Haleigh’s father. Days later, she was handcuffed on Interstate 4 following a road rage incident.

Croslin, 17, said she thinks someone in her husband’s family has the girl.

She also said she thinks Ronald Cummings is divorcing her because the stress of the whole ordeal is just too much. The couple married in March.

********

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked:: 


I think that is that particular writer's opinion of what she said.

It was ambiguous the way she phrased it in her interview.

It could be taken as Ronald's family or Crystal's family.

Hopefully the interviewer on the Early Show asked her to clarify in part two of her interview which is scheduled to be aired in the morning.

JMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 08:52:58 PM
Was that a spin on Misty's words, or did she say it that way?  The reporter didn't put those words into quotes.  But s/he may have repeated what s/he heard Misty say.  Hmmm..

Last I knew, this was the quote from Misty, anyone see it differently elsewhere?

"I feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her. That's just how I feel."

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21249783/detail.html

Either way, doesn't look like she meant Crystal's side at all. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 11, 2009, 08:53:38 PM
Am sorry if this has already been posted and I missed it.


********

Haleigh’s Stepmom Maintains Innocence On National TV
Friday, October 09, 2009 10:42:31 AM

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/9/haleighs_stepmom_maintains_innocence_on_national_tv.html

NEW YORK -- The last person to see Haleigh Cummings alive appears on national television to maintain her innocence in the case of the missing 6-year-old.

Misty Croslin has come under the microscope in the case after reportedly failing lie detector tests, but on the CBS “Early Show” Friday, she said she has done nothing wrong.

“They just need to move on and look for the right person, because they’re focusing on me, but I’m not the one who has Haleigh,” Croslin said. “I don’t know where she is. They need to look for the person who does have Haleigh.”

Just this week, news came of Croslin’s divorce from Haleigh’s father. Days later, she was handcuffed on Interstate 4 following a road rage incident.

Croslin, 17, said she thinks someone in her husband’s family has the girl.

She also said she thinks Ronald Cummings is divorcing her because the stress of the whole ordeal is just too much. The couple married in March.

********

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked:: 


Haleigh Cummings' Stepmom Speaks Out - The Early Show - CBS News Video
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5373838n&tag=related;photovideo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 11, 2009, 08:54:59 PM
Thanks Heart and Brandi!  Reporter spin then? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 08:59:12 PM
Thanks Heart and Brandi!  Reporter spin then? 


As happens way too often, yes.

IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 11, 2009, 09:02:07 PM
Was that a spin on Misty's words, or did she say it that way?  The reporter didn't put those words into quotes.  But s/he may have repeated what s/he heard Misty say.  Hmmm..

Last I knew, this was the quote from Misty, anyone see it differently elsewhere?

"I feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her. That's just how I feel."

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21249783/detail.html

Either way, doesn't look like she meant Crystal's side at all. 




I don't guess it matters who she meant, most likely a lie anyway..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 09:15:50 PM
Thanks for the pic info all.

Who is this Levi guy?  Do you guys like his show?  Is he fair etc?
::MonkeyBike::

ROFLMAO~I love your new Avi, that's hysterical! Anyway, Levi Page has a good show, more balanced and has great guest, FBI profilers, Robin Sax etc. MOO-no comparison in the two shows, and no one is begging for donations on his show!

CYL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 09:26:02 PM
Thank you IM, I'll check it out.

The av?  Yes, I love it.
I always wanted to ask for an updated version but felt I did not post here enough to ask.  I should have known better that Brandi was not like that.  I am touched, truly.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 11, 2009, 09:38:16 PM
Every time they show this pic or video clip of Misty in the media, I wonder if she is in a state of recalling  what happened to HaLeigh.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/mcc1.jpg)

Her mind was definitely somewhere else other than where she was physically at that moment !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 11, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
Every time they show this pic or video clip of Misty in the media, I wonder if she is in a state of recalling  what happened to HaLeigh.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/mcc1.jpg)

Her mind was definitely somewhere else other than where she was physically at that moment !
Whoever the young girl is next to her is very pretty, at least from her profile.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 09:44:30 PM
Every time they show this pic or video clip of Misty in the media, I wonder if she is in a state of recalling  what happened to HaLeigh.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/mcc1.jpg)

Her mind was definitely somewhere else other than where she was physically at that moment !

Heart, well put!

She looks stoned out of her mind to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 11, 2009, 09:45:14 PM
Does anyone hear listen to the levi show. And if so does anyone know the number I can call to ask a question? And is he a good guy that you know of.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 09:46:07 PM
MyView:

O/T: I just left you a post at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg979200#msg979200

Sorry for the O/T folks. But I don't know any other way to reach people.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 11, 2009, 09:49:02 PM
Does anyone hear listen to the levi show. And if so does anyone know the number I can call to ask a question? And is he a good guy that you know of.


The Levi Page Show
Levi Page Show
Date / Time: 10/11/2009 9:00 PM

Category: Current Events

Call-in Number: (347) 838-9781



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 11, 2009, 09:49:36 PM
Every time they show this pic or video clip of Misty in the media, I wonder if she is in a state of recalling  what happened to HaLeigh.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/mcc1.jpg)

Her mind was definitely somewhere else other than where she was physically at that moment !
Whoever the young girl is next to her is very pretty, at least from her profile.

yes, she is very pretty...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 11, 2009, 09:51:43 PM
MyView:

O/T: I just left you a post at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg979200#msg979200

Sorry for the O/T folks. But I don't know any other way to reach people.
You are a true jewel, thank you so much  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 11, 2009, 09:53:13 PM
MyView:

O/T: I just left you a post at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg979200#msg979200

Sorry for the O/T folks. But I don't know any other way to reach people.
You are a true jewel, thank you so much  ::MonkeyKiss::

cute avvy!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 10:17:08 PM
Levi show still discussing Kate & 8.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 10:19:40 PM
Levi saying Haleigh case up next.

Actually talking about it now for those who want to check it out.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 10:30:36 PM
Levi saying Haleigh case up next.

Actually talking about it now for those who want to check it out.

Thanks for the updates. Keep 'em coming, if you can, please!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 10:42:37 PM
Levi Page show:

Paraphrased and I missed a lot, I type slow but here goes...

They are talking about RC saying he would blow his and MCC head off. 

Cheryl (missed last name sorry) saying it sounds as if RC knows Misty has something to do with it.

Lp asking if anyone heard the drug ripoff/retribution story.

Page:  LE working hard but battling the family in this case, very volatile relationship w/LE.

LP:  Attention is on the family instead of the missing child.
The family is so busy ducking and hiding what they do in their lives...

Page:  Re TM, trying to get MCC away from the environment, drugs, alcohol etc and he (Page) noticed MCC was 'softer" and more well polished in the last interviews.

Page: Thinks it is a horrible accident gone wrong.
Cheryl:  Ronald would kill MCC even for an accident and that is why MCC won't talk.

Page:  MCC was trained from an early age to survive, she is an actress, liar...

Levi:  How does the divorce affect the investigation?

Cheryl:  Divorce is usually one of the things that LE is happy about because it makes people talk when they are mad at their spouse.

LP:  Those rewards are so technical and hard to collect that people think they are not going to be able to collect, pie in the sky, never gonna happen (collecting).  They have probably been beat out of smaller rewards.  Even if the 70,000 is the reward people may be put off for yrs or offered 5,000 right now.

more...



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 10:44:48 PM
 Ruh roh!  That's not Levi apparently but has been Steph Watts.  My apologies!  OK, I lost track, so sorry.  I may have names of Levi and Steph mixed up at an and all points above. ugh!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 10:47:49 PM
I'll let you guys listen.  Apologies.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 11, 2009, 10:48:59 PM
Ruh roh!  That's not Levi apparently but has been Steph Watts.  My apologies!  OK, I lost track, so sorry.  I may have names of Levi and Steph mixed up at an and all points above. ugh!

Well, really doesn't matter who said what, IMO. LOL

Not much "news" or novel ideas expressed, I am gathering.

But thank you very much for posting what you heard!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 11, 2009, 10:49:32 PM
I'll let you guys listen.  Apologies.
Well they've moved on to the Anthony case, more mis-information I'm sure will follow :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 11, 2009, 10:49:35 PM
I'll let you guys listen.  Apologies.

No worries... I was listening & couldn't keep who was who straight either, except for knowing LP's voice.   Lots of people talking very fast.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 11, 2009, 10:52:05 PM
I'll let you guys listen.  Apologies.

No worries... I was listening & couldn't keep who was who straight either, except for knowing LP's voice.   Lots of people talking very fast.   
That Cherly was mis-informed and spouting things not proven as fact. She said Ron had beat Haleigh, yada yada  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 11, 2009, 10:54:03 PM
Ruh roh!  That's not Levi apparently but has been Steph Watts.  My apologies!  OK, I lost track, so sorry.  I may have names of Levi and Steph mixed up at an and all points above. ugh!

Well, really doesn't matter who said what, IMO. LOL

Not much "news" or novel ideas expressed, I am gathering.

But thank you very much for posting what you heard!

I think they main thing was they were saying was the reason Misty won't talk is because she knows Ron will kill her even if it was accident.  I think it was LP who said he still may, and also that they think she had help disposing of Haleigh & whoever that was won't talk either for fear of Ronald killing them too, no matter how high the reward is.

And they said in her life Misty has absolutely no one she has ever been able to trust, from her parents to her siblings to anyone she's ever had any dealings with, and so she learned to lie and lie very well from a very early age as a defense mechanism. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 11:01:39 PM
Good summary Bud's Girl, TY.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 11, 2009, 11:03:21 PM
Well, another day without anything of value regarding little Haleigh. See everyone tomorrow, time to get get the coffee-maker ready for in the morning and then get prone and watch the tube.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 11, 2009, 11:07:26 PM
Good summary Bud's Girl, TY.

Did one them say something about Misty going back to Ron? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 11, 2009, 11:20:10 PM
Good summary Bud's Girl, TY.

Did one them say something about Misty going back to Ron? 
I am not sure, sorry.  I got flustered when I goofed, lol.
They are both supposed to be on the early show though but that is recorded right?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 11, 2009, 11:55:06 PM
I just wonder exactly where Misty is.  Will she wind up at the Party House that NayNay frequented.   ::MonkeyEek::

Will she go to wherever her dad is living in Satsuma?  Is that at Tommy's house?  Was she given hotel money by Tim, Donna? 

Has she burned her bridges with NayNay's mother and sister?

This just may be the turning point for Misty.

A jail cell might look awfully good to Misty right about now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 11, 2009, 11:56:29 PM
Good summary Bud's Girl, TY.

Did one them say something about Misty going back to Ron? 
I am not sure, sorry.  I got flustered when I goofed, lol.
They are both supposed to be on the early show though but that is recorded right?

IIRC, Misty's segment was pre-recorded and ron will be live to offer a rebuttal from what I heard ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 12:10:12 AM
Hey Island, just got caught up, been working alllllllll day.......I to wonder where Misty is, do we know if Ronald and Teresa stayed over the weekend in NY or did they go home.....hmm......She could be with WBG...lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 12:20:14 AM
Hey Island, just got caught up, been working alllllllll day.......I to wonder where Misty is, do we know if Ronald and Teresa stayed over the weekend in NY or did they go home.....hmm......She could be with WBG...lol

o/t

Each time I look at your avi...I get this pic in my mind that NG has a blow up of your avi
in the twins room....just  to remind them that she is "Super Mommy" 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 12:23:08 AM
Hey Island, just got caught up, been working alllllllll day.......I to wonder where Misty is, do we know if Ronald and Teresa stayed over the weekend in NY or did they go home.....hmm......She could be with WBG...lol

Me too, been on the beach allllllllll day chasing sea turtles and snorkeling. I have no clue where she could be, but one place I'd love to see her-on the Putnam county facebook site ::MonkeyDevil2:: I don't no about FAB and TN though ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 12, 2009, 12:33:07 AM
Hey Island, just got caught up, been working alllllllll day.......I to wonder where Misty is, do we know if Ronald and Teresa stayed over the weekend in NY or did they go home.....hmm......She could be with WBG...lol

Don't know how accurate the info was, but on that Levi show, one of the people said Misty was in Orlando, staying with her friend again, and Donna had gone back to her home.

Then they said something about they thought Misty would be headed back or was going to go back to Ronald, can't remember the exact wording. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 12:36:41 AM
Hey Island, just got caught up, been working alllllllll day.......I to wonder where Misty is, do we know if Ronald and Teresa stayed over the weekend in NY or did they go home.....hmm......She could be with WBG...lol

Don't know how accurate the info was, but on that Levi show, one of the people said Misty was in Orlando, staying with her friend again, and Donna had gone back to her home.

Then they said something about they thought Misty would be headed back or was going to go back to Ronald, can't remember the exact wording. 
What do you mean Donna had gone back to her home, Donna is the friend Misty was staying with in Orlando......gosh I dont know what to think, heck, there's no telling where she is and what she is doing..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 12:37:39 AM
Hey Island, just got caught up, been working alllllllll day.......I to wonder where Misty is, do we know if Ronald and Teresa stayed over the weekend in NY or did they go home.....hmm......She could be with WBG...lol

o/t

Each time I look at your avi...I get this pic in my mind that NG has a blow up of your avi
in the twins room....just  to remind them that she is "Super Mommy" 
She probably does.......ewwww yuk......now wonder we never see the twins smiling if they have to wake up to that....lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 12:37:50 AM
Hey Island, just got caught up, been working alllllllll day.......I to wonder where Misty is, do we know if Ronald and Teresa stayed over the weekend in NY or did they go home.....hmm......She could be with WBG...lol

Don't know how accurate the info was, but on that Levi show, one of the people said Misty was in Orlando, staying with her friend again, and Donna had gone back to her home.

Then they said something about they thought Misty would be headed back or was going to go back to Ronald, can't remember the exact wording. 

Thanks BG ::MonkeyConfused:: I swear I heard last she was in sh!tsuma. I'm off tomorrow so I may stay up and listen to catch up ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 12, 2009, 12:56:09 AM
Hey Island, just got caught up, been working alllllllll day.......I to wonder where Misty is, do we know if Ronald and Teresa stayed over the weekend in NY or did they go home.....hmm......She could be with WBG...lol

Don't know how accurate the info was, but on that Levi show, one of the people said Misty was in Orlando, staying with her friend again, and Donna had gone back to her home.

Then they said something about they thought Misty would be headed back or was going to go back to Ronald, can't remember the exact wording. 
What do you mean Donna had gone back to her home, Donna is the friend Misty was staying with in Orlando......gosh I dont know what to think, heck, there's no telling where she is and what she is doing..........

Dunno, don't hold me to it, but I'm pretty sure that's what someone said, making it sound like two different people.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 01:03:34 AM
Hey Island, just got caught up, been working alllllllll day.......I to wonder where Misty is, do we know if Ronald and Teresa stayed over the weekend in NY or did they go home.....hmm......She could be with WBG...lol

Don't know how accurate the info was, but on that Levi show, one of the people said Misty was in Orlando, staying with her friend again, and Donna had gone back to her home.

Then they said something about they thought Misty would be headed back or was going to go back to Ronald, can't remember the exact wording. 
What do you mean Donna had gone back to her home, Donna is the friend Misty was staying with in Orlando......gosh I dont know what to think, heck, there's no telling where she is and what she is doing..........

Dunno, don't hold me to it, but I'm pretty sure that's what someone said, making it sound like two different people.
Oh well, I guesss we will find out soon, Im pretty sure Donna was her friend she was staying with through it all, but I guess we'll just have to wait for the answer,.....Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 12, 2009, 05:24:17 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d11-HaLeigh-Cummings-case-Mistys-attorney-drops-her-as-client-wishes-her-well
HaLeigh Cummings case: Misty’s attorney drops her as client, “wishes her well”
October 11, 7:08 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams

Misty Cummings, the stepmother of missing Satsuma, Fla. girl, HaLeigh Cummings, no longer has legal representation. Shortly after he appearance on CBS’ ‘Early Show’ on Friday, her attorney said he will no longer represent her.

To see Misty's 'Early Show' interview, click here.  http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d9-HaLeigh-Cummings-case-Misty-Cummings-appears-on-the-Early-Show

Putnam County lawyer, Robert Fields said he “wishes her well” and feels he has “navigated her through the most difficult parts of this matter,” according to First Coast News.  http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d9-HaLeigh-Cummings-case-Misty-Cummings-appears-on-the-Early-Show

First Coast reports that Fields advised Misty to decline the national interview on Friday. During the show, Misty hinted that her husband’s family may be involved in HaLeigh’s disappearance. Shortly after the show, Fields made the announcement he would no longer represent Misty.

When HaLeigh went missing in February, her father, Ronald Cummings was at work, while Misty was at home with the girl and her younger brother. Misty claims she awoke in the middle of the night and HaLeigh was gone.
On Tuesday, Ronald appeared on HLN’s Nancy Grace show and announced he was divorcing Misty. To see that interview, click here.  http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d7-Haleigh-Cummings-father-tells-Nancy-Grace-hes-divorcing-Misty-parts-1-through-3-video

Just one day prior to her interview on CBS, Misty was stopped by police in a road rage incident. To read about what occurred, click here.   http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d8-HaLeigh-Cummings-case-Misty-stopped-for-incident-of-road-rage


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:06:43 AM
Good Morning all!

Reminder of the Early Show!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 12, 2009, 08:08:40 AM
Good Morning all!

Reminder of the Early Show!

Thanks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:18:43 AM
HALEIGH CUMMINGS/CAYLEE ANTHONY: THE RADIO SHOW
October 11, 2009 by Steph

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stephpress
Tonight I had the pleasure of discussing the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases on the Levi Page Show (link below). My “partners in crime” were Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla and Sheryl McCollum, a cold case investigator. I enjoyed discussing/arguing with them both. Sheryl and I agreed we would not be good on a jury together!!! I respect both of them, I enjoyed Levi as a host, and I appreciated his invitation….

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LeviPage/2009/10/12/The-Levi-Page-Show

http://stephww.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:25:41 AM
CBS EARLY SHOW: Ronald did not make appearance on show due to illness. His attorney gave interview instead.

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:35:13 AM
Misty says that she was referring to HaLeigh's natural mother's side when she said that someone from the other side of the family.

Butterbean and other family members are currently ill. That is why Ron did not make The Early Show per Ron's attorney.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:36:28 AM
Ronald has not accused anyone, he does not know what happened that night per his attorney.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:39:02 AM
Hey Island, just got caught up, been working alllllllll day.......I to wonder where Misty is, do we know if Ronald and Teresa stayed over the weekend in NY or did they go home.....hmm......She could be with WBG...lol

Don't know how accurate the info was, but on that Levi show, one of the people said Misty was in Orlando, staying with her friend again, and Donna had gone back to her home.

Then they said something about they thought Misty would be headed back or was going to go back to Ronald, can't remember the exact wording. 
What do you mean Donna had gone back to her home, Donna is the friend Misty was staying with in Orlando......gosh I dont know what to think, heck, there's no telling where she is and what she is doing..........

Dunno, don't hold me to it, but I'm pretty sure that's what someone said, making it sound like two different people.
LEVI PAGE SHOW: Misty was dropped off at a friend's house in Satsuma - a male and a female.10 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 12, 2009, 08:43:09 AM
They cleared up what Misty meant when she said "the other side of the family".   Maggie R. said
Do you mean HaLeigh's natural mother's side?   Misty said Yes and they showed a  picture of Crystal.
They said that they had asked Crystal to come on the show and she refused.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 12, 2009, 08:48:16 AM
Misty Cummings On The Early Show 10/12/09 - Pt. 2
http://www.youtube.com/v/u3f4OPwFhlY&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:53:33 AM
Thanks Trim!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 12, 2009, 08:54:58 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-101209,0,3978376.story
Haleigh Cummings' father doubts Misty has revealed everything, attorney says
The attorney for Ronald Cummings appeared on 'The Early Show' this morning.
Kevin P. Connolly  Sentinel Staff Writer

8:30 a.m. EDT, October 12, 2009
Ronald Cummings, whose daughter vanished from their home in Putnam County in February, still stands behind the last person to see Haleigh Cummings, his attorney said on national television this morning.

Misty Croslin Cummings, who was baby-sitting Haleigh Cummings in February, may not have revealed everything about the night the girl vanished, but Ronald Cummings does not think the 17-year-old he later married was involved, said attorney Terry Shoemaker.

"He's just doubting whether everything she said is what transpired that night. But he in no way believes that she is involved whatsoever,'' Shoemaker said during an interview on CBS' The Early Show.

Ronald Cummings, 25, wants to divorce Misty Croslin Cummings because of the stress the disappearance has placed on their marriage -- not because he thinks his wife was involved, the attorney said.

Ronald married his former girlfriend about a month after Haleigh Cummings vanished. Their divorce was announced last week.

"Ron has stuck by Misty all along." Terry Shoemaker. Ronald Cummings was scheduled to appear on the show but couldn't because his youngest child was sick, the attorney said.
Shoemaker's appearance was the second part of a two-segment piece on CBS' The Early Show about the case of the girl, who was 5 was she was last seen.

The first part aired Friday with Haleigh's stepmother, Misty Croslin Cummings, 17, saying she suspects someone on the "other side of the family that has her."

The statement was interpreted to mean Ronald Cummings' family. But on Monday, the network aired additional footage of the interview that indicated Misty Croslin Cummings was casting suspicion on the family of Haleigh Cummings' biological mother.

Crystal Sheffield has admitted she didn't have a close relationship with Haleigh, Misty Croslin Cummings said.

"I don't think that she, personally had anything, to do with it,'' Misty Croslin Cummings said in the interview that aired this morning.

Authorities have said Haleigh Cummings was abducted. No suspects have been named. No arrests have been made.

Check back for updates.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 12, 2009, 08:56:00 AM
Thanks Trim!

Can you imagine how Crystal is feeling right now?   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 08:56:57 AM
Misty Cummings On The Early Show 10/12/09 - Pt. 2
http://www.youtube.com/v/u3f4OPwFhlY&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1

thanks Trimm....

morning all...

oh, I notice that we have a new character... ::Baseball:: how cute!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 12, 2009, 09:07:43 AM
Imo I doubt that crystal said that she was not close to haleigh. I just find that hard to believe. I personally think that the courts did crystal wrong jmo. And also when tim said that ron showed him. The gun n the closet and said he would blow misty's teeth out the back of her head. And take a few more people with him. And then he got down on his knees and put the gun up to his mouth saying he would kill his self. Well I do not think that butter bean should be in the care of butter bean I just feel he is not stable and I would hate for him to be around when ron does finally snap. Now everything I just said is my own opion.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 12, 2009, 09:11:15 AM
Oops sorry was trying to say I don't think butter bean should be in the care 0f ron. Just incase he does snap. Butter bean does not need to be around0 that


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:13:52 AM
Good morning everyone!  Thanks Trim.
I wasn't able to hear the interview very well.
Was Misty asked what she based her suspicions on when she suggested it was Crystals side of the family?  I expect her typical response would be "it's just my feelings, just how I feel"
Her saying that Crystal did not have a close relationship with Caylee was catty and mean spirited.  I'm disgusted!

and what's with Ron...he supports her but wants a divorce. 

Sick of the hooey!

Where is little Haleigh?   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 09:16:22 AM
Lawyer: Haleigh’s Dad Concerned Over Stepmom’s Statements

Monday, October 12, 2009 8:52:34 AM

NEW YORK -- The father and stepmother of Haleigh Cummings have gotten caught up in a “he said, she said” on national television.

Misty Croslin Cummings appeared on the CBS “Early Show” Friday, saying she thought a member of her husband’s family may have kidnapped the missing 6-year-old girl from her Putnam County home in February.

Ronald Cummings was supposed to appear on the show Monday morning, but dropped out at the last minute.

Appearing in his place, Ronald Cummings’ lawyer, Terry Shoemaker said his client had some concerns with Misty’s statements.

“Ron has stuck by Misty all along,” Shoemaker said. “He has had some concerns about the statements she’s made, but he has stood by her all along.”

Shoemaker said the pressure surrounding Haleigh’s disappearance was what led to the couple’s impending divorce.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/12/lawyer_haleighs_dad_concerned_over_stepmoms_statements.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:20:42 AM

Ron has stood by his woman - all along - but wants a divorce!

Who can make sense of this bs?!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:22:52 AM

Ron has stood by his woman - all along - but wants a divorce!

Who can make sense of this bs?!

added > God bless Haleigh and little Butterbean.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:32:02 AM
Thanks Trim!

Can you imagine how Crystal is feeling right now?   ::MonkeyRoll::

Yes I can, as I know how I would feel.  Misty's words cannot alter the fact that Haleigh went missing on her watch.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 12, 2009, 09:36:11 AM
Thanks Trim!

Can you imagine how Crystal is feeling right now?   ::MonkeyRoll::

Yes I can, as I know how I would feel.  Misty's words cannot alter the fact that Haleigh went missing on her watch.   ::MonkeyMad::


Exactly.
I'd probably beat the mess out of Misty.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 09:38:27 AM

Ron has stood by his woman - all along - but wants a divorce!

Who can make sense of this bs?!
  ::MonkeyEek::  Thanks for all the updates everyone  ::MonkeyCool::   Crystal Sheffield has admitted she didn't have a close relationship with Haleigh, Misty Croslin Cummings said.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: If I were Crystal I'd go after this little tramp with everything I had in me  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:40:32 AM

Ron has stood by his woman - all along - but wants a divorce!

Who can make sense of this bs?!
  ::MonkeyEek::  Thanks for all the updates everyone  ::MonkeyCool::   Crystal Sheffield has admitted she didn't have a close relationship with Haleigh, Misty Croslin Cummings said.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: If I were Crystal I'd go after this little tramp with everything I had in me  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yep, me too!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:46:35 AM
Why doesn't Ron man up and say something supportive and compassionate about Crystal, the real and grieving Mother of his child?

I'm sick of hearing about his support for Misty!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sugarBabies on October 12, 2009, 09:53:44 AM

Ron has stood by his woman - all along - but wants a divorce!

Who can make sense of this bs?!
  ::MonkeyEek::  Thanks for all the updates everyone  ::MonkeyCool::   Crystal Sheffield has admitted she didn't have a close relationship with Haleigh, Misty Croslin Cummings said.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: If I were Crystal I'd go after this little tramp with everything I had in me  ::MonkeyNoNo::
ITA if I was Crystal I would be camped out at PCSO wanting to know just when they were going to lock up this tramp that was supposed to be caring for her daughter.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 09:59:11 AM
Why doesn't Ron man up and say something supportive and compassionate about Crystal, the real and grieving Mother of his child?

I'm sick of hearing about his support for Misty!
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The only thing I can come up with is he is thinking with his head and not the one on his shoulders.....Rons priorities  are TN. Misty, and himself ::MonkeyDevil2:: I have a feeling there will not be a divorce and Misty is laid up with Ronald at this very minute,they are all a bunch of liars and will have to answer for all this soon....this madness can not continue.....Poor Haleigh and Butterbean.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 10:04:31 AM
Video: Finding Haleigh Cummings

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5378346n&tag=cbsnewsVideoArea.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 10:29:23 AM
Why doesn't Ron man up and say something supportive and compassionate about Crystal, the real and grieving Mother of his child?

I'm sick of hearing about his support for Misty!
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The only thing I can come up with is he is thinking with his head and not the one on his shoulders.....Rons priorities  are TN. Misty, and himself ::MonkeyDevil2:: I have a feeling there will not be a divorce and Misty is laid up with Ronald at this very minute,they are all a bunch of liars and will have to answer for all this soon....this madness can not continue.....Poor Haleigh and Butterbean.




Yes, I wouldn't be surprised.
Someone will have to answer for this someway, someday.  Someday soon I hope!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 11:06:15 AM
"Ronald Cummings was supposed to appear on the show Monday morning, but dropped out at the last minute."

Due to illness of Butterbean and other family members????????????  I call


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: SloSthrnStyle on October 12, 2009, 11:08:16 AM
G'Morning Monkeys!!

I slept thru the Early Show, but I see there is nothing new, except Misty still trying to throw people under the bus.  It is still my opinion, that Misty doesnt give a chit bout anything but Misty. Somebody knew where Misty was, or waited for her to pass out an took HaLeigh. If there was an  "accident", Misty had help.
Sometimes I wonder if someone was going to teach Misty a lesson and it all went terribly wrong, Or if Misty was paying of a debt.

For Misty to insinuate that it was Crystal or her family is down right pathetic.

Sometimes I think that Misty was jealous of HaLeigh, after all, she was daddy's little girl and looks so much like her mother...and her comming of a binge just couldnt stand hearing HaLeigh say I want my mommy.

See this is what is wrong with this case, sooo many theories...and it all comes down to the last person to see HaLeigh, and she cant answer a simple question.

Where is the truth serum?????

Ok Im done.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 11:12:23 AM
Thanks for the links to the Early Show videos. That was a whole lot of nothing, wasn't it?   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 11:22:14 AM
Ron has been hiding behind his mama his while life.  IMO.  Misty had her chance at national TV and the world's attention swung to Ron for his 'rebuttal'.  Ball in his court, he *could have* stepped up like a man.. for Haleigh.. "his heart".  So what does he do?  He hides behind his attorney.  How very convenient for Ron.  Family illness?  Pffffft.  IMO, unless Ron were laying at the brink of death, he should have made that interview.  My doxie is a bigger man than Ron is, at least he has had the nerve to step up to a pitbull, bark and stand his ground. 

   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 11:24:38 AM
"Ronald Cummings was supposed to appear on the show Monday morning, but dropped out at the last minute."

Due to illness of Butterbean and other family members????????????  I call


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I agree.....BS.....He is more than likely playing catch up with Misty....I feel like Crystal feels defeated by this whole bunch....but I am surprised that Marie does not visit Sinsuma and beat Mistys azz....can Crystal call Misty out for "slander"?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 11:24:59 AM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 11:34:34 AM
Ron has been hiding behind his mama his while life.  IMO.  Misty had her chance at national TV and the world's attention swung to Ron for his 'rebuttal'.  Ball in his court, he *could have* stepped up like a man.. for Haleigh.. "his heart".  So what does he do?  He hides behind his attorney.  How very convenient for Ron.  Family illness?  Pffffft.  IMO, unless Ron were laying at the brink of death, he should have made that interview.  My doxie is a bigger man than Ron is, at least he has had the nerve to step up to a pitbull, bark and stand his ground. 

   

His lawyer even said today that Ron's MOTHER had called right before show time and said Ronnie was sick and wouldn't be there. Why couldn't Ron call him himself?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 11:44:18 AM

I agree.....BS.....He is more than likely playing catch up with Misty....I feel like Crystal feels defeated by this whole bunch....but I am surprised that Marie does not visit Sinsuma and beat Mistys azz....can Crystal call Misty out for "slander"?

Am not sure Mymonkey.  The way that Misty said what she did, made it her opinion based on feelings, she didn't say it was a fact. 

And I'm no legal-beagle and could be wrong, but from what I understand, slander can be taken to court IF the statement of opinion can be proved true or false.  If so, then the case can be heard.  But IF the statement cannot be proved true or false, the court may dismiss. 

Seems to me, that to prove the statement of opinion wrong, Haleigh's case would need to be solved first.  After that, am thinking Crystal can then sue for defamation of character, slander, wrongful death and a whole bunch of other stuff. 

But that's just my opinion.  And it's Monday, could have it all wrong.  lol



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 11:45:34 AM
Misty Croslin Cummings' attorney steps away from case

By Karen Voyles
Staff writer

Published: Monday, October 12, 2009 at 10:50 a.m.
Last Modified: Monday, October 12, 2009 at 10:50 a.m.

The attorney who has represented Misty Croslin Cummings has stepped away from the case.

In an e-mail to The Sun on Monday morning, Robert Fields of Putnam County confirmed that he is no longer representing the stepmother of missing Haleigh Cummings.

His decision to stop representing Cummings was apparently made Friday, shortly after Cummings' appearance on the "CBS Early Show."

Fields reportedly advised Cummings not to appear on the nationally televised program, but she participated in an interview anyway. Within hours, Fields decided to discontinue representing her.

Cummings was caring for Haleigh before she disappeared from her father's home in February. Ronald Cummings was at work when his then-5-year-old daughter vanished. Misty Cummings, who was then Ronald's girlfriend and later married him, has said she woke in the early morning and noticed the girl was missing.

Fields' decision to stop representing Cummings marked the third time she has made national news in a week.

In the other incidents, Ronald Cummings announced he was divorcing her and she was stopped by police as part of a road rage incident.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091012/ARTICLES/910129958/1002?Title=Misty-Croslin-Cummings-attorney-steps-away-from-case


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 11:47:26 AM

I agree.....BS.....He is more than likely playing catch up with Misty....I feel like Crystal feels defeated by this whole bunch....but I am surprised that Marie does not visit Sinsuma and beat Mistys azz....can Crystal call Misty out for "slander"?

Am not sure Mymonkey.  The way that Misty said what she did, made it her opinion based on feelings, she didn't say it was a fact. 

And I'm no legal-beagle and could be wrong, but from what I understand, slander can be taken to court IF the statement of opinion can be proved true or false.  If so, then the case can be heard.  But IF the statement cannot be proved true or false, the court may dismiss. 

Seems to me, that to prove the statement of opinion wrong, Haleigh's case would need to be solved first.  After that, am thinking Crystal can then sue for defamation of character, slander, wrongful death and a whole bunch of other stuff. 

But that's just my opinion.  And it's Monday, could have it all wrong.  lol




Thank You Wykes for answering that question for me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
and I should have said, 'wrongful death' only if it's proved that's what happened in this case.  we still don't even know whether Haleigh is alive out there somewhere, or .. not.   ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 11:48:50 AM
Who Has Haleigh Cummings?

Suspected Stepmom Claims Missing Girl's Biological Mother's Family is to Blame for 5-Year-Old's Disappearance
 
(CBS)  Misty Cummings blamed someone on "the other side of the family" for the disappearance of her 5-year-old stepdaughter Haleigh in part one of her exclusive interview Friday on "The Early Show."

But who did Cummings mean by "the other side"?

Cummings, who was babysitting Haleigh the night she disappeared in February, explained in part two of her interview that she meant someone on Haleigh's biological mother's side of the family.

Though Misty Cummings said she doesn't think Haleigh's natural mother, Crystal Sheffield, had anything to do with the disappearance, she said, "(Crystal) wasn't close with her daughter. She admitted that they didn't have a close relationship," Misty said. "... I don't think she personally had anything to do with it, just someone on her side of the family."

Haleigh Cummings' Stepmom Speaks Out


Cummings is currently a suspect in the case; she says she was sleeping beside Haleigh when she disappeared. But police say her story doesn't add up.

The 17-year-old stepmom, according to police, has failed to provide a detailed account of that night, and physical evidence contradicts what she told investigators.

Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's father, who married Misty a month after Haleigh's disappearance, has said through his attorney that he has noticed some discrepancies in Misty's story.

Terry Shoemaker, Ron Cummings' attorney said on "The Early Show," "(Ronald) always thought that she told the truth. He has had some concerns regarding what she has said, some discrepancies between different statements, but he has stood by her all along."

"She Wasn't There When I Woke Up"

Ronald, who was to appear on "The Early Show" with his lawyer, couldn't make the interview because of a family illness, Shoemaker said.

Ronald Cummings is now divorcing Misty, Shoemaker said -- not because Ronald doubts her story -- but because the pressure of the ongoing investigation into Haleigh's disappearance had been building up in the household.

As for Misty Cummings' claims about Sheffield's family, Shoemaker said Ronald Cummings has talked to Florida police about them, but he hasn't accused anyone.

"He doesn't know what took place that night," Shoemaker said, "And he said wants everybody to be looked in to."

And "everybody" includes his current wife, whose story, Shoemaker said, Ronald Cummings doubts somewhat.

Missing Girl's Sitter's Story Doubted


"He in no way believes that she was involved whatsoever. ... She has changed her story a little here and there," Shoemaker said, "but nothing major."

But Misty Cummings says her story of the night Haleigh went missing hasn't changed. "It's the same, it's the truth," she told Rodriguez.

Misty Cummings claims that in the middle of the night she discovered Haleigh had vanished from her bed. In February, she said that she found the trailer's back door wide open.

Cummings was also babysitting Haleigh's younger brother, Ronald Cummings Jr.

Cummings told Rodriguez she put Haleigh to bed at 8 p.m., and the last time she saw the little girl was at 10 p.m. when she herself was going to bed.

But, Rodriguez pointed out, Misty Cummings' own brother told police that when he went to the trailer that night, his sister wasn't there.

Cummings responded that she didn't leave the house at all that night. She said her brother is trying to get out of jail by implicating her.

"Your own brother would betray you like that?" Rodriguez asked.

"That's how my family is," Cummings said.

Although Florida police have focused their attention on Misty Cummings, Rodriguez said, they appear to be no closer to making an arrest.

Cummings told Rodriguez she's "100 percent positive" she had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance and that she doesn't know who did.

Florida police are still considering Cummings a suspect as the investigation goes forward.

"If that's what they got to do to find Haleigh, then look into me," she said. "But they just need to move on, look for the right person because I'm not the right person."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/12/earlyshow/main5378770.shtml


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 11:51:11 AM
Ron has been hiding behind his mama his while life.  IMO.  Misty had her chance at national TV and the world's attention swung to Ron for his 'rebuttal'.  Ball in his court, he *could have* stepped up like a man.. for Haleigh.. "his heart".  So what does he do?  He hides behind his attorney.  How very convenient for Ron.  Family illness?  Pffffft.  IMO, unless Ron were laying at the brink of death, he should have made that interview.  My doxie is a bigger man than Ron is, at least he has had the nerve to step up to a pitbull, bark and stand his ground. 

   

His lawyer even said today that Ron's MOTHER had called right before show time and said Ronnie was sick and wouldn't be there. Why couldn't Ron call him himself?

OMG even worse!!  His mama calling in for him?   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Because he's a chicken snit, that's why.  IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 11:54:16 AM

I agree.....BS.....He is more than likely playing catch up with Misty....I feel like Crystal feels defeated by this whole bunch....but I am surprised that Marie does not visit Sinsuma and beat Mistys azz....can Crystal call Misty out for "slander"?

Am not sure Mymonkey.  The way that Misty said what she did, made it her opinion based on feelings, she didn't say it was a fact. 

And I'm no legal-beagle and could be wrong, but from what I understand, slander can be taken to court IF the statement of opinion can be proved true or false.  If so, then the case can be heard.  But IF the statement cannot be proved true or false, the court may dismiss. 

Seems to me, that to prove the statement of opinion wrong, Haleigh's case would need to be solved first.  After that, am thinking Crystal can then sue for defamation of character, slander, wrongful death and a whole bunch of other stuff. 

But that's just my opinion.  And it's Monday, could have it all wrong.  lol




Thank You Wykes for answering that question for me.

You're welcome, Mymonkey.   ::MonkeyKiss::  Am hoping we get some legal-beagle-monkeys to give us the legal angle. 

JessStar, please weigh in!   ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 12, 2009, 11:59:52 AM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 12:01:53 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


Morning Wyks.  I think Crystal will stay above the fray, as she has done thus far.
I should would like to shake Misty though!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
G'Morning Monkeys!!

I slept thru the Early Show, but I see there is nothing new, except Misty still trying to throw people under the bus.  It is still my opinion, that Misty doesnt give a chit bout anything but Misty. Somebody knew where Misty was, or waited for her to pass out an took HaLeigh. If there was an  "accident", Misty had help.
Sometimes I wonder if someone was going to teach Misty a lesson and it all went terribly wrong, Or if Misty was paying of a debt.

For Misty to insinuate that it was Crystal or her family is down right pathetic.

Sometimes I think that Misty was jealous of HaLeigh, after all, she was daddy's little girl and looks so much like her mother...and her comming of a binge just couldnt stand hearing HaLeigh say I want my mommy.

See this is what is wrong with this case, sooo many theories...and it all comes down to the last person to see HaLeigh, and she cant answer a simple question.

Where is the truth serum?????

Ok Im done.

Good morning SloSouthernStyle.  I'm a bit fired up myself this morning!

As LE says, Misty needs to clear up some things for them! 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 12, 2009, 12:11:01 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.


NOT unppular with me, I agree.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 12, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.


NOT unppular with me, I agree.
unpopular


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 12, 2009, 12:11:55 PM
Why do they always have only Teresa Neves on as Haleigh's grandmother ?
Marie could handle herself. Misty, Teresa and Ron have nothing interesting to say.
I don't know, I wuz sleeping I wuz so exhausted fom taking all those drugs.
I wuz at work.
I don't know Miz Nancy.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 12:13:39 PM
Why do they always have only Teresa Neves on as Haleigh's grandmother ?
Marie could handle herself. Misty, Teresa and Ron have nothing interesting to say.
I don't know, I wuz sleeping I wuz so exhausted fom taking all those drugs.
I wuz at work.
I don't know Miz Nancy.




lol it seems you've got them down pat, Kat.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: SloSthrnStyle on October 12, 2009, 12:15:14 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.


NOT unppular with me, I agree.
unpopular


Love the Avi!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 12:18:32 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Misty points to biological mom's family

posted by halboedeker on Oct 12, 2009 11:48:02 AM

Mistyc Who took Haleigh Cummings?

Misty Cummings has clarified her comment to CBS' "Early Show" that she feels "the other side" of the family has the little girl who disappeared in February.

Misty meant someone on the family side of Haleigh's biological mother, Crystal Sheffield. "I don't think that she personally had anything to do with it," Misty Cummings added. "Just someone on her side of the family."

Cummings said, with "100 percent" certainty, that she had nothing to do with the child's disappearance.

Cummings also said she never left her home the night Haleigh vanished. Misty's two-part interview with CBS' Maggie Rodriguez concluded this morning. It had started Friday. Rodriguez had planned to interview Ronald Cummings, who is Haleigh's father and Misty's husband. Ronald didn't show up because his son became ill, his attorney, Terry Shoemaker, told Rodriguez.

"Ron has stuck by Misty all along," Shoemaker said. "He's always thought she's told the truth. He has had concerns regarding what she has said, some discrepancies between different statements. But he has stood by her all along."

Shoemaker said his client "in no way" believes Misty was involved. The attorney attributed the couple's decision to divorce to pressures on the two.

Ronald doesn't know what happened to his daughter and hasn't accused anyone but he believes his child is alive, Shoemaker said.

Misty was babysitting then-boyfriend Ronald's two children and told "The Early Show" she put them to bed at 8 o'clock the night Haleigh vanished. Misty added that she looked in on them at 10 before she went to bed.

"I did not leave my house at all," Misty said.

Rodriguez wanted to know why did Misty's brother told police she wasn't there.

"Trying to get out of jail -- that's what I think," Misty said.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/10/haleigh-cummings-.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 12, 2009, 12:21:00 PM
Good morning everyone!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Can a Monkey help me out?  I'm confused.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Was Ron supposed to be on live, in the studio?  I thought he & TN flew to NY to do it live.  If so, is he sick in NY?  And how/why are he & Butterbean at a friend's house?

TIA   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 12:27:42 PM
Good morning everyone!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Can a Monkey help me out?  I'm confused.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Was Ron supposed to be on live, in the studio?  I thought he & TN flew to NY to do it live.  If so, is he sick in NY?  And how/why are he & Butterbean at a friend's house?

TIA   ::MonkeyAngel::

They are doing what they do best keeping everyone confused. ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on October 12, 2009, 12:28:34 PM
Good morning everyone!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Can a Monkey help me out?  I'm confused.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Was Ron supposed to be on live, in the studio?  I thought he & TN flew to NY to do it live.  If so, is he sick in NY?  And how/why are he & Butterbean at a friend's house?

TIA   ::MonkeyAngel::

Misty is at a friends house to. Coinkydink?

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 12:29:43 PM
Good morning everyone!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Can a Monkey help me out?  I'm confused.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Was Ron supposed to be on live, in the studio?  I thought he & TN flew to NY to do it live.  If so, is he sick in NY?  And how/why are he & Butterbean at a friend's house?

TIA   ::MonkeyAngel::

Good morning MonkeyJnBox:

I believe that RC and TN flew to NY to do the upcoming Maury Povish on missing children show. Then returned to Satsuma. I also read a post on twitter last Friday that RC would probably be flying back to NY Sunday (yesterday) in order to do the interview on the CBS Early Morning show.

Also it has been reported/rumored that RC is back in the Satsuma area at a friends. Why, it has not been stated anywhere yet that I know of.

Ron's attorney reported this morning on CBS Early Morning show that Ron and other family members were ill.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 12, 2009, 12:30:17 PM
Good morning everyone!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Can a Monkey help me out?  I'm confused.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Was Ron supposed to be on live, in the studio?  I thought he & TN flew to NY to do it live.  If so, is he sick in NY?  And how/why are he & Butterbean at a friend's house?

TIA   ::MonkeyAngel::

They are doing what they do best keeping everyone confused. ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyBike::

Well, they've certainly succeeded!!!  I think I may need more coffee!  (http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/mornincoffee.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 12, 2009, 12:32:09 PM
Good morning everyone!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Can a Monkey help me out?  I'm confused.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Was Ron supposed to be on live, in the studio?  I thought he & TN flew to NY to do it live.  If so, is he sick in NY?  And how/why are he & Butterbean at a friend's house?

TIA   ::MonkeyAngel::

Misty is at a friends house to. Coinkydink?

 

 ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 12, 2009, 12:33:50 PM
Good morning everyone!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Can a Monkey help me out?  I'm confused.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Was Ron supposed to be on live, in the studio?  I thought he & TN flew to NY to do it live.  If so, is he sick in NY?  And how/why are he & Butterbean at a friend's house?

TIA   ::MonkeyAngel::

Good morning MonkeyJnBox:

I believe that RC and TN flew to NY to do the upcoming Maury Povish on missing children show. Then returned to Satsuma. I also read a post on twitter last Friday that RC would probably be flying back to NY Sunday (yesterday) in order to do the interview on the CBS Early Morning show.

Also it has been reported/rumored that RC is back in the Satsuma area at a friends. Why, it has not been stated anywhere yet that I know of.

Ron's attorney reported this morning on CBS Early Morning show that Ron and other family members were ill.

Thank you Heart!  So many interviews, they are running together for me.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 12:35:07 PM
HaleighNewz Ronald's attorney said that Junior was sick and that Ronald was "at a friend's house" taking care of him.

18 minutes ago from HootSuite


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on October 12, 2009, 12:35:28 PM
So According to Ron's attorney, Ron continues to stand by Misty and even though Ron believes that Misty is not telling everything that she could to help find his Daughter he does not think that she has anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance and that all the inconsistancies Misty has made are in his opinion, small ones... including that the bed was still made and hadn't even been slept in that night?  ::MonkeyEek::

Whew I have no idea how I managed to fit all of that in one sentence.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 12:39:51 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on October 12, 2009, 12:42:43 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   

Wykes,

For the life of me, I cannot understand what the hold up is with DCF.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 12:42:48 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM TJ do you know when Sarah Sheffield got popped? She has had that warrant out on her for a while now.
http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope THinking off the top of may head about a week ago14 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope
13 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

@mudboggingqueen I think she was on probation for DUI and that was what the violation is on. Let me check her court records.7 minutes ago from web in reply to mudboggingqueen
http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 12:46:50 PM
So According to Ron's attorney, Ron continues to stand by Misty and even though Ron believes that Misty is not telling everything that she could to help find his Daughter he does not think that she has anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance and that all the inconsistancies Misty has made are in his opinion, small ones... including that the bed was still made and hadn't even been slept in that night?  ::MonkeyEek::

Whew I have no idea how I managed to fit all of that in one sentence.  ::MonkeyConfused::

You may get the run-on sentence award! :smt038 :cheers: :2notworthy: :smt023


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 12:47:41 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5419495.php

CBS Early Show: Who Has Haleigh Cummings?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 12:48:53 PM
Ron has been hiding behind his mama his while life.  IMO.  Misty had her chance at national TV and the world's attention swung to Ron for his 'rebuttal'.  Ball in his court, he *could have* stepped up like a man.. for Haleigh.. "his heart".  So what does he do?  He hides behind his attorney.  How very convenient for Ron.  Family illness?  Pffffft.  IMO, unless Ron were laying at the brink of death, he should have made that interview.  My doxie is a bigger man than Ron is, at least he has had the nerve to step up to a pitbull, bark and stand his ground. 

   

His lawyer even said today that Ron's MOTHER had called right before show time and said Ronnie was sick and wouldn't be there. Why couldn't Ron call him himself?
  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo:: That woman has been making excuses for her little boy probably his entire lifetime, sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 12:50:31 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM TJ do you know when Sarah Sheffield got popped? She has had that warrant out on her for a while now.
http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope THinking off the top of may head about a week ago14 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope
13 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

@mudboggingqueen I think she was on probation for DUI and that was what the violation is on. Let me check her court records.7 minutes ago from web in reply to mudboggingqueen
http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

Who Is Sarah?   Sorry I can not keep up with all the players.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 12:52:15 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   

It makes perfectly good sense to me. DCF isn't much in Florida. They have had sooooo many goof ups and cover ups. More of the tax dollars at work in Florida doing absolutely nothing. If the state gets COLUMBUS DAY off, nobody's in the office today anyway.  JMO   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 12:52:16 PM
Ron has been hiding behind his mama his while life.  IMO.  Misty had her chance at national TV and the world's attention swung to Ron for his 'rebuttal'.  Ball in his court, he *could have* stepped up like a man.. for Haleigh.. "his heart".  So what does he do?  He hides behind his attorney.  How very convenient for Ron.  Family illness?  Pffffft.  IMO, unless Ron were laying at the brink of death, he should have made that interview.  My doxie is a bigger man than Ron is, at least he has had the nerve to step up to a pitbull, bark and stand his ground. 

   

His lawyer even said today that Ron's MOTHER had called right before show time and said Ronnie was sick and wouldn't be there. Why couldn't Ron call him himself?
  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo:: That woman has been making excuses for her little boy probably his entire lifetime, sad.

I would like to hear what Rons father has to say about all this bunk.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 12:54:43 PM
HaleighNewz Ronald's attorney said that Junior was sick and that Ronald was "at a friend's house" taking care of him.

18 minutes ago from HootSuite
So now Ron isn't living with Granny, why would Jr be at a friend's house sick?  Taken from one of the articles ("He in no way believes that she was involved whatsoever. ... She has changed her story a little here and there," Shoemaker said, "but nothing major.") Ron is either dumber then dirt, or involved to believe that, I'm going with a little of both.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 12:58:32 PM
Ron has been hiding behind his mama his while life.  IMO.  Misty had her chance at national TV and the world's attention swung to Ron for his 'rebuttal'.  Ball in his court, he *could have* stepped up like a man.. for Haleigh.. "his heart".  So what does he do?  He hides behind his attorney.  How very convenient for Ron.  Family illness?  Pffffft.  IMO, unless Ron were laying at the brink of death, he should have made that interview.  My doxie is a bigger man than Ron is, at least he has had the nerve to step up to a pitbull, bark and stand his ground. 

   

His lawyer even said today that Ron's MOTHER had called right before show time and said Ronnie was sick and wouldn't be there. Why couldn't Ron call him himself?
  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo:: That woman has been making excuses for her little boy probably his entire lifetime, sad.

I would like to hear what Rons father has to say about all this bunk.
Ron's father has probably run for the hills, and is staying clear of all this. I don't know much about Ron's father, if he was a good father to him, or a father that wasn't there  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 12, 2009, 12:59:59 PM
Hello Monkeys,


(Simons show)


Did anyone hear, yesterday, Cobra stating: "Somethings going to POP, then you will say, on, chit"!

I believe his words, and I haven't heard a peep from anyone who caught that comment?  What in the world would that mean?  TIA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 01:01:52 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM TJ do you know when Sarah Sheffield got popped? She has had that warrant out on her for a while now.
http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope THinking off the top of may head about a week ago14 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope
13 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

@mudboggingqueen I think she was on probation for DUI and that was what the violation is on. Let me check her court records.7 minutes ago from web in reply to mudboggingqueen
http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

Who Is Sarah?   Sorry I can not keep up with all the players.

I think it may be a kinfolk of Crystals. I guess if we can't get any FACTS we'll go back to gossip again. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 12, 2009, 01:02:17 PM
Hello Monkeys,


(Simons show)


Did anyone hear, yesterday, Cobra stating: "Somethings going to POP, then you will say, on, chit"!

I believe his words, and I haven't heard a peep from anyone who caught that comment?  What in the world would that mean?  TIA
I dismiss most of what Cobra says :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 01:05:34 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   

Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 01:06:53 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM TJ do you know when Sarah Sheffield got popped? She has had that warrant out on her for a while now.

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope THinking off the top of may head about a week ago14 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope
13 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

@mudboggingqueen I think she was on probation for DUI and that was what the violation is on. Let me check her court records.7 minutes ago from web in reply to mudboggingqueen
http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

Who Is Sarah?   Sorry I can not keep up with all the players.

I think it may be a kinfolk of Crystals. I guess if we can't get any FACTS we'll go back to gossip again. JMO

I believe it is Crystal's sister.  and good morning all.oops afternoon..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 01:07:21 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/12/earlyshow/main5378770.shtml

<snipped>

"Misty Cummings claims that in the middle of the night she discovered Haleigh had vanished from her bed. In February, she said that she found the trailer's back door wide open.

Cummings was also babysitting Haleigh's younger brother, Ronald Cummings Jr.
"

Am curious as to why the media has gone back to referring to Misty as 'babysitting'.  Maybe I'm being too nitpicky here, yet for gosh sake, she was not acting as a paid babysitter, she was the live-in lover of the children's father.  BIG difference, IMO.  Ya live there, there are kids there, ya the only 'adult' at home at the time, ya take care of the kids.   This is not brain surgery, she was not the babysitter.  IMO, it's a PR media spin, to perhaps paint Misty in the light of an innocent standby.   ::MonkeyRoll::



"Cummings told Rodriguez she's "100 percent positive" she had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance and that she doesn't know who did."

How can Misty be 100% positive of anything, since she has yet to give ONE consistent version of what happened that night?   The truth does not change, ever.  I may add to one consistent version as my mind clears and I remember one or more details.  But the basic version itself will not change. 

She couldn't even do a re-enactment of that night!  Had she been asleep, as she claims, the re-enactment would have been simple.  Cover up said children, lay down and act as if asleep.. then act as if awake, leap up and act all shocked that one is gone.  She couldn't even do that.  And that, IMO is very telling. 

 ::MonkeyDevil2::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 01:12:15 PM
Ron has been hiding behind his mama his while life.  IMO.  Misty had her chance at national TV and the world's attention swung to Ron for his 'rebuttal'.  Ball in his court, he *could have* stepped up like a man.. for Haleigh.. "his heart".  So what does he do?  He hides behind his attorney.  How very convenient for Ron.  Family illness?  Pffffft.  IMO, unless Ron were laying at the brink of death, he should have made that interview.  My doxie is a bigger man than Ron is, at least he has had the nerve to step up to a pitbull, bark and stand his ground. 

   

His lawyer even said today that Ron's MOTHER had called right before show time and said Ronnie was sick and wouldn't be there. Why couldn't Ron call him himself?
  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo:: That woman has been making excuses for her little boy probably his entire lifetime, sad.

I would like to hear what Rons father has to say about all this bunk.
Ron's father has probably run for the hills, and is staying clear of all this. I don't know much about Ron's father, if he was a good father to him, or a father that wasn't there  ::MonkeyConfused::

TY NRCG  your always one of the sweet monkeys to respond ::MonkeyKiss:: I love this forum.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 01:14:14 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


Morning Wyks.  I think Crystal will stay above the fray, as she has done thus far.
I should would like to shake Misty though!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Good morning, Can!  Well.. it's afternoon now, here anyway.  lol 

I think Crystal herself will stay out of the fray, yeppers.  The rest of the Sheffield clan may not tho.  It would be good strategy if all of them kept back, just waiting, watching.  Not so sure I could do that tho.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Someone would have to hold me back.   ::MonkeyTongue::  I'm with you, I'd like to shake Misty, and then some.  lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 12, 2009, 01:14:46 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   

Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching you must of been reading me composing a response post to that cuz you basically stated what I had in mind.  3yrs is more than enough and she is moved on. 

If she truely cared she would be very involved with LE and all things Haleigh.  I would of been sittin there w/my little note pad and known everything about Haleigh's last day from schools to neighbors.  She does not need to be in contact with Ron in her pursuit of that info but she has done nothing.  I'm very disappointed in her because she is the one I expected something from and yet we have nothing.  Just more and more excuses made on her behalf.  IMO Marie has spoke out more and done more.  She makes me angry so I will leave it alone.  JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 12, 2009, 01:19:17 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/12/earlyshow/main5378770.shtml

<snipped>

"Misty Cummings claims that in the middle of the night she discovered Haleigh had vanished from her bed. In February, she said that she found the trailer's back door wide open.

Cummings was also babysitting Haleigh's younger brother, Ronald Cummings Jr.
"

Am curious as to why the media has gone back to referring to Misty as 'babysitting'.  Maybe I'm being too nitpicky here, yet for gosh sake, she was not acting as a paid babysitter, she was the live-in lover of the children's father.  BIG difference, IMO.  Ya live there, there are kids there, ya the only 'adult' at home at the time, ya take care of the kids.   This is not brain surgery, she was not the babysitter.  IMO, it's a PR media spin, to perhaps paint Misty in the light of an innocent standby.   ::MonkeyRoll::



"Cummings told Rodriguez she's "100 percent positive" she had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance and that she doesn't know who did."

How can Misty be 100% positive of anything, since she has yet to give ONE consistent version of what happened that night?   The truth does not change, ever.  I may add to one consistent version as my mind clears and I remember one or more details.  But the basic version itself will not change. 

She couldn't even do a re-enactment of that night!  Had she been asleep, as she claims, the re-enactment would have been simple.  Cover up said children, lay down and act as if asleep.. then act as if awake, leap up and act all shocked that one is gone.  She couldn't even do that.  And that, IMO is very telling. 

 ::MonkeyDevil2::



I agree.  I can't believe that if Misty was with all these people that night some of who are also parents not one of them will come forward.  I believe the group/them is much smaller.  Like Misty and one or two others.  jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 12, 2009, 01:19:36 PM
She knows and she knows everyone knows she knows  ::MonkeyMad::

Throw her on the ground and punch her in the head until she tells the truth.  She pisses me off ALMOST as much as Casey Anthony.
(jerry.....jerry.......jerry)

My anger management is always out of control, I can't help it.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 01:21:01 PM
HaleighNewz Ronald's attorney said that Junior was sick and that Ronald was "at a friend's house" taking care of him.

18 minutes ago from HootSuite

PR spin to show what a doting father Ron is?   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 01:21:23 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM TJ do you know when Sarah Sheffield got popped? She has had that warrant out on her for a while now.

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope THinking off the top of may head about a week ago14 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope
13 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

@mudboggingqueen I think she was on probation for DUI and that was what the violation is on. Let me check her court records.7 minutes ago from web in reply to mudboggingqueen
http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

Who Is Sarah?   Sorry I can not keep up with all the players.

I think it may be a kinfolk of Crystals. I guess if we can't get any FACTS we'll go back to gossip again. JMO

I believe it is Crystal's sister.  and good morning all.oops afternoon..
Good afternoon Searching and thank you for answering one of my many questions. ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 01:23:32 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM TJ do you know when Sarah Sheffield got popped? She has had that warrant out on her for a while now.
http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope THinking off the top of may head about a week ago14 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope
13 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

@mudboggingqueen I think she was on probation for DUI and that was what the violation is on. Let me check her court records.7 minutes ago from web in reply to mudboggingqueen
http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

Who Is Sarah?   Sorry I can not keep up with all the players.

Sarah is Crystal's sister

http://www.myspace.com/sarah32063

Prayers4Haleigh Sarah Sheffield picked up for : VIOLATION OF PROBATION OR COMMUNITY CONTROL http://bit.ly/3ymjhX

@BrendaLee1967 She has several old cases in Duval Cty. Case fees of $ 108 sent 2 collections 2/5/09 in Duval. Not sure if this is prob?23 minutes ago from web in reply to BrendaLee1967

    Inmate Information
Housing Location:  PDF 
Admitted:10/12/2009 12:01 PM
ID Check Completed: N/A
Released: N/A Release Reason: N/A
Bond Agency: N/A
Bond Agency Address: N/A
DOB:   10/14/1987     Age:  21 Sex:  F Race:  W   
Height:  508 inches  Weight: 163 pounds   Hair: BROWN  Eyes: BROWN
Arrested:  10/12/2009
Expected Release Date:
Address: 12222 MUD LAKE RD
City: GLEN SAINT MARY State: FL   Zip: 3-2040
Visitation Information:     Inmates must finish the admission process before being eligible for visitation.
Completed Admissions Process: N 
How Long in Jax? (YY/MM):/
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Payment Required for Release: * N/A
Arresting Agency:  JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF'S OFFICE
Length of Sentence:  N/A
Pending Unsentenced Charge(s): Yes
    Charge Information
Statute: S948.06       Description: VIOLATION OF PROBATION OR COMMUNITY CONTROL
Bond: N/A      Fine: N/A      Purge: N/A      Blanket Bond Group:
Charge Type: MISD      Capias/Warrant: 1299174      Case #: N/A      OBTS:
Date Entered: 10/12/2009 12:01:50 PM      Charge Status: NEW CHARGE     
Jurisdiction: JSO
Sentence Date: N/A      Years: 0      Months: 0      Days: 0
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Incident Number: 2009854518

http://inmatesearch.jaxsheriff.org/jso_public_iis/%28S%28tu3ahxndmkqdct45neniv320%29%29/IISInmateDetails.aspx

http://twitter.com/Prayers4Haleigh



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 12, 2009, 01:23:33 PM
She knows and she knows everyone knows she knows  ::MonkeyMad::

Throw her on the ground and punch her in the head until she tells the truth.  She pisses me off ALMOST as much as Casey Anthony.
(jerry.....jerry.......jerry)

My anger management is always out of control, I can't help it.  ::MonkeyMad::


Nut I'll help! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 01:23:40 PM
So According to Ron's attorney, Ron continues to stand by Misty and even though Ron believes that Misty is not telling everything that she could to help find his Daughter he does not think that she has anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance and that all the inconsistancies Misty has made are in his opinion, small ones... including that the bed was still made and hadn't even been slept in that night?  ::MonkeyEek::

Whew I have no idea how I managed to fit all of that in one sentence.  ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Good condensed version of it, Patricia! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 01:27:38 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 01:29:42 PM
Attorney: Ron Cummings Doubts Wife's Story

Haleigh Cummings Has Been Missing Since February

POSTED: 11:56 am EDT October 12, 2009
UPDATED: 12:20 pm EDT October 12, 2009

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- The search for missing Florida girl Haleigh Cummings is getting national attention again as the attorney representing Ron Cummings, the girl's father, appeared on the "CBS Early Show. "

Terry Shoemaker spoke about the missing girl's stepmother, Misty, and said his client Ron does not think Misty knows of Haleigh's whereabouts, but that he does have some doubts about her story.

Haleigh was five in February when she disappeared from her father's trailer home last February.

"I don't think he's doubting whether or not she is involved," Shoemaker said. "He's just doubting whether everything she said is what transpired that night. But he in no way believes she was involved whatsoever."

Ron Cummings has filled out the paperwork to divorce his wife. Ron's attorney did not say whether the split is because Ron Cummings believes Misty Cummings hasn't come clean about his daughter's disappearance.

"The divorce came about primarily because of all the pressure on the two of them," he said. "Being married is hard enough. Let alone being under a microscope -- everything you do everyday, all day long. And I think all the pressure just started building up causing some problems in the household. And they just found it became too much for them to stay together."

Last week on the Early Show, Misty Cummings said she suspects that someone from Haleigh's mother's side of the family has information about the girl's disappearance.

Ron Cummings believes his daughter Haleigh is OK, Shoemaker said.

"He feels in his heart that she is still alive and he wants her to come home," he said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/21271991/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   

Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching you must of been reading me composing a response post to that cuz you basically stated what I had in mind.  3yrs is more than enough and she is moved on. 

If she truely cared she would be very involved with LE and all things Haleigh.  I would of been sittin there w/my little note pad and known everything about Haleigh's last day from schools to neighbors.  She does not need to be in contact with Ron in her pursuit of that info but she has done nothing.  I'm very disappointed in her because she is the one I expected something from and yet we have nothing.  Just more and more excuses made on her behalf.  IMO Marie has spoke out more and done more.  She makes me angry so I will leave it alone.  JMO

Guess I need to stop reading over your shoulder then huh?  ::MonkeyDevil:: seriously though, great minds... I have just had it with the excuses for Crystal. As you said, there are things she could be doing with out having to have contact with Ron and she is not and has not. But, then again, she has admitted to talking to Misty and Ron on the phone so I do not think the contact is an issue, it is her lack of interest IMO. I say enough with the "Crystal is a victim" routine. No more free passes.

and a message to Ron and Crystal, YOU are parents, YOUR child is missing, GROW UP, STEP UP and for ONCE do what is right! Stop hiding behind mommy's skirt tails and be adults, you were old enough to lay down and make the children without your mothers being there ( I hope) now step up and do what needs to be done to find your missing child WITHOUT your mothers doing the talking for you.No more excuses for EITHER of you.

now, that said... I really think that when people stop making excuses for BOTH of them, they will step up, but it has been made easy for them to continue this charade. Look at it, bloggers are attacking each other because of this, the excuses, because they have taken sides, some have even been harassed and stalked, I have not taken any side but Haleigh's. SHE is the one that needs us on HER side. Ron and Crystal are adults and have their mothers to stand up for them, who is standing up for our girl Haleigh? I say no more excuses for either, no more "Crystal is a victim" talk, no more excuses for Ron (I could not think of any to quote as I see all Crystal excuses,sorry) MAKE them stand up for Haleigh. Please, enough of the excuses, make them step up by not giving them a pass.

off my soap box now. I have my pumpkin on so go ahead and throw nanners (Thank Brandi for the pumpkin helmet,I miss my helmet too though,but this will work for now)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 01:32:26 PM
Thanks heart.

Good afternoon Searching.

Wyks - I like the "and then some"   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 01:35:53 PM
Thanks heart.

Good afternoon Searching.

Wyks - I like the "and then some"   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

Hi Can, I love your av. You look so cute.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 12, 2009, 01:36:12 PM
Hello Monkeys,


(Simons show)


Did anyone hear, yesterday, Cobra stating: "Somethings going to POP, then you will say, on, chit"!

I believe his words, and I haven't heard a peep from anyone who caught that comment?  What in the world would that mean?  TIA
I dismiss most of what Cobra says :)

Thanks...maybe, he was referring to his case, he was vague.  I wish Greta would cover this case, she is the only one I fully trust.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 01:36:29 PM

Wykes,

For the life of me, I cannot understand what the hold up is with DCF.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Same here, Patricia!  I'm like... wth??  I don't get it!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 01:40:48 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   

Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching you must of been reading me composing a response post to that cuz you basically stated what I had in mind.  3yrs is more than enough and she is moved on. 

If she truely cared she would be very involved with LE and all things Haleigh.  I would of been sittin there w/my little note pad and known everything about Haleigh's last day from schools to neighbors.  She does not need to be in contact with Ron in her pursuit of that info but she has done nothing.  I'm very disappointed in her because she is the one I expected something from and yet we have nothing.  Just more and more excuses made on her behalf.  IMO Marie has spoke out more and done more.  She makes me angry so I will leave it alone.  JMO

Guess I need to stop reading over your shoulder then huh?  ::MonkeyDevil:: seriously though, great minds... I have just had it with the excuses for Crystal. As you said, there are things she could be doing with out having to have contact with Ron and she is not and has not. But, then again, she has admitted to talking to Misty and Ron on the phone so I do not think the contact is an issue, it is her lack of interest IMO. I say enough with the "Crystal is a victim" routine. No more free passes.

and a message to Ron and Crystal, YOU are parents, YOUR child is missing, GROW UP, STEP UP and for ONCE do what is right! Stop hiding behind mommy's skirt tails and be adults, you were old enough to lay down and make the children without your mothers being there ( I hope) now step up and do what needs to be done to find your missing child WITHOUT your mothers doing the talking for you.No more excuses for EITHER of you.

now, that said... I really think that when people stop making excuses for BOTH of them, they will step up, but it has been made easy for them to continue this charade. Look at it, bloggers are attacking each other because of this, the excuses, because they have taken sides, some have even been harassed and stalked, I have not taken any side but Haleigh's. SHE is the one that needs us on HER side. Ron and Crystal are adults and have their mothers to stand up for them, who is standing up for our girl Haleigh? I say no more excuses for either, no more "Crystal is a victim" talk, no more excuses for Ron (I could not think of any to quote as I see all Crystal excuses,sorry) MAKE them stand up for Haleigh. Please, enough of the excuses, make them step up by not giving them a pass.

off my soap box now. I have my pumpkin on so go ahead and throw nanners (Thank Brandi for the pumpkin helmet,I miss my helmet too though,but this will work for now)

Searching, forgive me but I think that stating Crystal's low profile suggests a lack of interest on her part is a bit of a stretch.
The last time she appeared on NG Nancy reamed her.  It should would cause me to retreat!   That said I do not disagree that a her Motherly presence/public appeals from time to time would be appropriate. 
Crystal could also call LE on a daily basis and bug the hell out of them, and maybe she is for all I know.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 01:41:51 PM

It makes perfectly good sense to me. DCF isn't much in Florida. They have had sooooo many goof ups and cover ups. More of the tax dollars at work in Florida doing absolutely nothing. If the state gets COLUMBUS DAY off, nobody's in the office today anyway.  JMO   ::MonkeyMad::

I agree, Fanny!  One would think, especially given the history of DCF in Florida, that they'd be all over this case, to make sure they do it right.  It's not like they have such a huge caseload that this one escaped their attention.  The whole world is watching.  IMO. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 01:42:39 PM
Thanks heart.

Good afternoon Searching.

Wyks - I like the "and then some"   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

Hi Can, I love your av. You look so cute.

I do?!  Why, thank you!  That's the nicest thing I've heard all day.  CBB does a great job!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blue Moon on October 12, 2009, 01:43:37 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 01:44:33 PM
Thanks heart.

Good afternoon Searching.

Wyks - I like the "and then some"   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

Hi Can, I love your av. You look so cute.

I do?!  Why, thank you!  That's the nicest thing I've heard all day.  CBB does a great job!

and BTW Searching - you look pretty cute yourself!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 01:48:06 PM
Could it be Sinsuma and LE enjoy the media attention.....that  might be the dumbest statement of the day....just a thought. ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 01:48:20 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   

Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching you must of been reading me composing a response post to that cuz you basically stated what I had in mind.  3yrs is more than enough and she is moved on. 

If she truely cared she would be very involved with LE and all things Haleigh.  I would of been sittin there w/my little note pad and known everything about Haleigh's last day from schools to neighbors.  She does not need to be in contact with Ron in her pursuit of that info but she has done nothing.  I'm very disappointed in her because she is the one I expected something from and yet we have nothing.  Just more and more excuses made on her behalf.  IMO Marie has spoke out more and done more.  She makes me angry so I will leave it alone.  JMO

Guess I need to stop reading over your shoulder then huh?  ::MonkeyDevil:: seriously though, great minds... I have just had it with the excuses for Crystal. As you said, there are things she could be doing with out having to have contact with Ron and she is not and has not. But, then again, she has admitted to talking to Misty and Ron on the phone so I do not think the contact is an issue, it is her lack of interest IMO. I say enough with the "Crystal is a victim" routine. No more free passes.

and a message to Ron and Crystal, YOU are parents, YOUR child is missing, GROW UP, STEP UP and for ONCE do what is right! Stop hiding behind mommy's skirt tails and be adults, you were old enough to lay down and make the children without your mothers being there ( I hope) now step up and do what needs to be done to find your missing child WITHOUT your mothers doing the talking for you.No more excuses for EITHER of you.

now, that said... I really think that when people stop making excuses for BOTH of them, they will step up, but it has been made easy for them to continue this charade. Look at it, bloggers are attacking each other because of this, the excuses, because they have taken sides, some have even been harassed and stalked, I have not taken any side but Haleigh's. SHE is the one that needs us on HER side. Ron and Crystal are adults and have their mothers to stand up for them, who is standing up for our girl Haleigh? I say no more excuses for either, no more "Crystal is a victim" talk, no more excuses for Ron (I could not think of any to quote as I see all Crystal excuses,sorry) MAKE them stand up for Haleigh. Please, enough of the excuses, make them step up by not giving them a pass.

off my soap box now. I have my pumpkin on so go ahead and throw nanners (Thank Brandi for the pumpkin helmet,I miss my helmet too though,but this will work for now)
JMO, if one wants to consider Crystal as a victim, one would have to also consider Crystal a victim of her parents, which have not always been role models. Where were they, what were they doing when Crystal was younger.

HaLeigh now is paying the cost for a long line of bad decision makers on both sides.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 01:48:30 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO

I've always wondered, if Misty is still doing drugs, why LE couledn't bring her in on that!?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 01:50:29 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   

Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching you must of been reading me composing a response post to that cuz you basically stated what I had in mind.  3yrs is more than enough and she is moved on. 

If she truely cared she would be very involved with LE and all things Haleigh.  I would of been sittin there w/my little note pad and known everything about Haleigh's last day from schools to neighbors.  She does not need to be in contact with Ron in her pursuit of that info but she has done nothing.  I'm very disappointed in her because she is the one I expected something from and yet we have nothing.  Just more and more excuses made on her behalf.  IMO Marie has spoke out more and done more.  She makes me angry so I will leave it alone.  JMO

Guess I need to stop reading over your shoulder then huh?  ::MonkeyDevil:: seriously though, great minds... I have just had it with the excuses for Crystal. As you said, there are things she could be doing with out having to have contact with Ron and she is not and has not. But, then again, she has admitted to talking to Misty and Ron on the phone so I do not think the contact is an issue, it is her lack of interest IMO. I say enough with the "Crystal is a victim" routine. No more free passes.

and a message to Ron and Crystal, YOU are parents, YOUR child is missing, GROW UP, STEP UP and for ONCE do what is right! Stop hiding behind mommy's skirt tails and be adults, you were old enough to lay down and make the children without your mothers being there ( I hope) now step up and do what needs to be done to find your missing child WITHOUT your mothers doing the talking for you.No more excuses for EITHER of you.

now, that said... I really think that when people stop making excuses for BOTH of them, they will step up, but it has been made easy for them to continue this charade. Look at it, bloggers are attacking each other because of this, the excuses, because they have taken sides, some have even been harassed and stalked, I have not taken any side but Haleigh's. SHE is the one that needs us on HER side. Ron and Crystal are adults and have their mothers to stand up for them, who is standing up for our girl Haleigh? I say no more excuses for either, no more "Crystal is a victim" talk, no more excuses for Ron (I could not think of any to quote as I see all Crystal excuses,sorry) MAKE them stand up for Haleigh. Please, enough of the excuses, make them step up by not giving them a pass.

off my soap box now. I have my pumpkin on so go ahead and throw nanners (Thank Brandi for the pumpkin helmet,I miss my helmet too though,but this will work for now)

Searching, forgive me but I think that stating Crystal's low profile suggests a lack of interest on her part is a bit of a stretch.
The last time she appeared on NG Nancy reamed her.  It should would cause me to retreat!   That said I do not disagree that a her Motherly presence/public appeals from time to time would be appropriate. 
Crystal could also call LE on a daily basis and bug the hell out of them, and maybe she is for all I know.


Hi Can, even before NG 'reamed' her,she was keeping quiet, it was always Marie speaking for her. She was reamed,because she has no idea what time her daughter went to school or got out of school and a lot more, THAT is what I am talking about. I am so angry with her because she just seemed to not take an interest in what was a day to day routine for her daughter before she went missing and still has not. Please don't take it wrong, I am not just calling her out. This is what I mean by passes for her. IMO there is no excuse for her behavior OR rons, NONE at all. I just wish they would step up like adults, like parents and do something instead of hiding behind their mothers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 01:52:23 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   

Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching you must of been reading me composing a response post to that cuz you basically stated what I had in mind.  3yrs is more than enough and she is moved on. 

If she truely cared she would be very involved with LE and all things Haleigh.  I would of been sittin there w/my little note pad and known everything about Haleigh's last day from schools to neighbors.  She does not need to be in contact with Ron in her pursuit of that info but she has done nothing.  I'm very disappointed in her because she is the one I expected something from and yet we have nothing.  Just more and more excuses made on her behalf.  IMO Marie has spoke out more and done more.  She makes me angry so I will leave it alone.  JMO

Guess I need to stop reading over your shoulder then huh?  ::MonkeyDevil:: seriously though, great minds... I have just had it with the excuses for Crystal. As you said, there are things she could be doing with out having to have contact with Ron and she is not and has not. But, then again, she has admitted to talking to Misty and Ron on the phone so I do not think the contact is an issue, it is her lack of interest IMO. I say enough with the "Crystal is a victim" routine. No more free passes.

and a message to Ron and Crystal, YOU are parents, YOUR child is missing, GROW UP, STEP UP and for ONCE do what is right! Stop hiding behind mommy's skirt tails and be adults, you were old enough to lay down and make the children without your mothers being there ( I hope) now step up and do what needs to be done to find your missing child WITHOUT your mothers doing the talking for you.No more excuses for EITHER of you.

now, that said... I really think that when people stop making excuses for BOTH of them, they will step up, but it has been made easy for them to continue this charade. Look at it, bloggers are attacking each other because of this, the excuses, because they have taken sides, some have even been harassed and stalked, I have not taken any side but Haleigh's. SHE is the one that needs us on HER side. Ron and Crystal are adults and have their mothers to stand up for them, who is standing up for our girl Haleigh? I say no more excuses for either, no more "Crystal is a victim" talk, no more excuses for Ron (I could not think of any to quote as I see all Crystal excuses,sorry) MAKE them stand up for Haleigh. Please, enough of the excuses, make them step up by not giving them a pass.

off my soap box now. I have my pumpkin on so go ahead and throw nanners (Thank Brandi for the pumpkin helmet,I miss my helmet too though,but this will work for now)

Searching, forgive me but I think that stating Crystal's low profile suggests a lack of interest on her part is a bit of a stretch.
The last time she appeared on NG Nancy reamed her.  It should would cause me to retreat!   That said I do not disagree that a her Motherly presence/public appeals from time to time would be appropriate. 
Crystal could also call LE on a daily basis and bug the hell out of them, and maybe she is for all I know.
Nancy Grace is not the only media outlet.  And actually NG would be the last show I would want to appear on.  Bombshell!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 01:54:45 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO

Blue, I agree, but want to add, Crystal and, AND Ron need to come out fighting, TOGETHER , as PARENTS, without their mothers attached to their hips. JMO I would have a lot more respect for BOTH of them if they did, but right now, I have no respect for either of them. JMHO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 12, 2009, 02:07:13 PM
Hello Monkeys,


(Simons show)


Did anyone hear, yesterday, Cobra stating: "Somethings going to POP, then you will say, on, chit"!

I believe his words, and I haven't heard a peep from anyone who caught that comment?  What in the world would that mean?  TIA
I dismiss most of what Cobra says :)

Thanks...maybe, he was referring to his case, he was vague.  I wish Greta would cover this case, she is the only one I fully trust.

I am giving Cobra the benefit of the doubt, "Somethings going to Pop, and then you will say oh, shet"! (quotting Cobra)
Is Lisa is going to throw someone under the bus? a wild guess. What would make me say, oh shet? almost nothing in this case!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 02:07:53 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO

Blue, I agree, but want to add, Crystal and, AND Ron need to come out fighting, TOGETHER , as PARENTS, without their mothers attached to their hips. JMO I would have a lot more respect for BOTH of them if they did, but right now, I have no respect for either of them. JMHO

SEARCHING, you cannot know how much it means to me to see you posting again on Haleigh's thread. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 02:09:01 PM
Searching, I know, I know.  Would that they would take advice from the wise Monkeys!   ::MonkeyCheer2::
But given that Crystal was not there the night Haleigh disappeared and Misty was...I guess I just want to cut her a bit of slack. 

Heart - I am well aware that NG is not the only media outlet!  Bombshell now equates to bullsh!t for me. 
Just pointing out a small example.  In fact I noticed how lost Crystal seemed, how seemingly unable she was to strike back at Nancy.
I have some passive people in my family and I understand how maddening they can be at times!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 02:14:46 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO

Blue, I agree, but want to add, Crystal and, AND Ron need to come out fighting, TOGETHER , as PARENTS, without their mothers attached to their hips. JMO I would have a lot more respect for BOTH of them if they did, but right now, I have no respect for either of them. JMHO

SEARCHING, you cannot know how much it means to me to see you posting again on Haleigh's thread. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif)

Thank you Fanny.... not so sure after today everyone will share your sentiment..lolol  I am just tired of all the excuses for Crystal, when is enough enough ya know?  I really think that when everyone stops making excuses for her,she will step up, but as long as everyone is making excuses for her,she has no reason/need to because everyone else is doing it for her. Know what I mean?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 12, 2009, 02:15:30 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO

I've always wondered, if Misty is still doing drugs, why LE couledn't bring her in on that!?

LE wants the bigger fish. IMO.  These guys (R & M) are sure in a scurry (of some sort) to knock each out for a talk show.
Curious, if something really is going to pop with Lisa or Sarah?  Is Misty scheculed this Thurs. for NY?  Why? What could it be? Mauvy? could she be aiming for his show next, only a guess Monkeys.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on October 12, 2009, 02:17:25 PM
Searching, I know, I know.  Would that they would take advice from the wise Monkeys!   ::MonkeyCheer2::
But given that Crystal was not there the night Haleigh disappeared and Misty was...I guess I just want to cut her a bit of slack. 

Heart - I am well aware that NG is not the only media outlet!  Bombshell now equates to bullsh!t for me. 
Just pointing out a small example.  In fact I noticed how lost Crystal seemed, how seemingly unable she was to strike back at Nancy.
I have some passive people in my family and I understand how maddening they can be at times!

As far as Crystal goes her public speaking skills suck. mvho
She also has/had issues that only she herself can own. She seems to be doing much better and I agree with everyone else who thinks she needs to speak up now in regards to what Misty "alleges". According to Misty, Crystal had admitted that she (Crystal) did not have a close relationship with Haleigh. (I personally believe that to be a load of bull.)
Nope NO more deer in the headlights. (Which btw is it just me or did T.N. have a few deer in the headlights moments the last time she was on Nancy Grace?)
This is all jmo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 12, 2009, 02:32:29 PM
When I was about Crystal's age, I was in a situation where someone was lying about me, to many people, and my normal reaction would have been to defend myself (from the rooftops mind you).  It took everything I had (and much of what I didn't have, I had to lean on others) not to say anything.  Monkeys, you know how I like to give my opinion!!!  I am very outspoken and vocal but what was at stake was too great to risk.  I had to keep my mouth shut.  It was hard, to be the bigger person, to not retaliate, because I had some great stuff (things that would have really devastated this person if I had shared). 

I remained quiet and it was the hardest thing I've ever done.  I can tell you that it took 3 years before the people this person had lied to learned the truth.  They were all judging me and they had NO idea what the truth was.  I had people apologize to me and ask me why I didn't defend myself.  The simple truth was, I couldn't.  I got what mattered most to me, even though my reputation was unduly tarnished, I had priorities.  Maybe Crystal has her priorities straight now, and it's never too late until she's dead, to become better than what she has been.

I am not defending Crystal, I don't have a dog in this hunt, I only want to find Haleigh and if she's been murdered I want justice for her.  I just want to point out that sometimes it takes a BIGGER person to stand quietly and let God do His work.  Maybe that's what Marie is telling Crystal.  I don't profess to know, but it was my Godly mother who was coaching me.

Anyway, I love you monkeys, even the ones who disagree with me.  I am just offering another opinion for you all to digest, or disect.  ::MonkeyKiss::  Gotta go, check back later.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 02:36:55 PM

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Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

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Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching..  ::MonkeyKiss::  and I feel the same about you! 

Even tho I do see her a victim/survivor of Ron, just based on what we've read and seen, etc... that still does not give Crystal a pass, IMO, nope.  All that does, (and again, IMO), is perhaps IN PART explain some of her choices in life.  I cannot for the life of me understand, for example, how a mom could walk away from her children, when she herself has had enough of the husband. 

I've experienced both.  My own bio-mother walked away from my sibs and I and our bio-father, and I've walked away from my sons father.  But never in my life could I, would I, have EVER been able to walk from my kids.  Shoot, I wouldn't even leave the goldfish!  lol Doesn't give me the right tho to judge Crystal, all I know is what was right for me and my children.  I did it FOR them, not just for myself.  I just cannot understand how she could do what it seems she did.  That's based on my own experiences tho, which are jaded to say the least.  We just don't know all the facts as to what Crystal experienced. 

IMO, it's very simplistic to say something like, "don't be a victim forever, pick yourself up and move on, get over it, live life in the present, etc etc etc".   Easy to say IMO, not easy to do.  There's a LOT that needs to be done, for a victim to get from being in victim mode to survivor mode.. and eventually becoming a thriver.  It's a process, and not simple by any means. 

But do I give Crystal a pass just because of this?  Heck no!!  She cannot IMO, use this as an excuse, reason, or anything else, and just be done with it..  To do nothing because of it.. neither can her family use it that way for her.. nor can I just looking on, give her a pass just because of it.  All in IMO.   

So even tho I can look at the situation with Crystal, given what facts we do have, and try to look at all angles, and even tho I can understand in part why she doesn't... I DO think that she needs to take a stand NOW for Haleigh, despite what her choices have been in the past, for whatever reason, excuse, etc.  She's the bio-mom for pete's sake, and yesssssss they DO need to both grow up.  I don't know what is actually holding Crystal back, just as I don't know why DCF isn't making a stand for Jr.  It's all mind-boggling, to say the least.   

Not throwing nanners!    ::MonkeyBike::

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 02:43:20 PM
She knows and she knows everyone knows she knows  ::MonkeyMad::

Throw her on the ground and punch her in the head until she tells the truth.  She pisses me off ALMOST as much as Casey Anthony.
(jerry.....jerry.......jerry)

My anger management is always out of control, I can't help it.  ::MonkeyMad::


I hear ya Nut, and feel the same way. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 02:51:09 PM

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Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

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Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching..  ::MonkeyKiss::  and I feel the same about you! 

Even tho I do see her a victim/survivor of Ron, just based on what we've read and seen, etc... that still does not give Crystal a pass, IMO, nope.  All that does, (and again, IMO), is perhaps IN PART explain some of her choices in life.  I cannot for the life of me understand, for example, how a mom could walk away from her children, when she herself has had enough of the husband. 

I've experienced both.  My own bio-mother walked away from my sibs and I and our bio-father, and I've walked away from my sons father.  But never in my life could I, would I, have EVER been able to walk from my kids.  Shoot, I wouldn't even leave the goldfish!  lol Doesn't give me the right tho to judge Crystal, all I know is what was right for me and my children.  I did it FOR them, not just for myself.  I just cannot understand how she could do what it seems she did.  That's based on my own experiences tho, which are jaded to say the least.  We just don't know all the facts as to what Crystal experienced. 

IMO, it's very simplistic to say something like, "don't be a victim forever, pick yourself up and move on, get over it, live life in the present, etc etc etc".   Easy to say IMO, not easy to do.  There's a LOT that needs to be done, for a victim to get from being in victim mode to survivor mode.. and eventually becoming a thriver.  It's a process, and not simple by any means. 

But do I give Crystal a pass just because of this?  Heck no!!  She cannot IMO, use this as an excuse, reason, or anything else, and just be done with it..  To do nothing because of it.. neither can her family use it that way for her.. nor can I just looking on, give her a pass just because of it.  All in IMO.   

So even tho I can look at the situation with Crystal, given what facts we do have, and try to look at all angles, and even tho I can understand in part why she doesn't... I DO think that she needs to take a stand NOW for Haleigh, despite what her choices have been in the past, for whatever reason, excuse, etc.  She's the bio-mom for pete's sake, and yesssssss they DO need to both grow up.  I don't know what is actually holding Crystal back, just as I don't know why DCF isn't making a stand for Jr.  It's all mind-boggling, to say the least.   

Not throwing nanners!    ::MonkeyBike::

 

Wyks, I do know how hard it is and believe me when I say I do not feel that way. Those were someone else's words,not mine and I was pointing out if we can say this about something as serious and vile as rape, then I think we can expect Crystal's "victim of Ron" excuse to be used up. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 02:54:19 PM

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Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

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Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching..  ::MonkeyKiss::  and I feel the same about you! 

Even tho I do see her a victim/survivor of Ron, just based on what we've read and seen, etc... that still does not give Crystal a pass, IMO, nope.  All that does, (and again, IMO), is perhaps IN PART explain some of her choices in life.  I cannot for the life of me understand, for example, how a mom could walk away from her children, when she herself has had enough of the husband. 

I've experienced both.  My own bio-mother walked away from my sibs and I and our bio-father, and I've walked away from my sons father.  But never in my life could I, would I, have EVER been able to walk from my kids.  Shoot, I wouldn't even leave the goldfish!  lol Doesn't give me the right tho to judge Crystal, all I know is what was right for me and my children.  I did it FOR them, not just for myself.  I just cannot understand how she could do what it seems she did.  That's based on my own experiences tho, which are jaded to say the least.  We just don't know all the facts as to what Crystal experienced. 

IMO, it's very simplistic to say something like, "don't be a victim forever, pick yourself up and move on, get over it, live life in the present, etc etc etc".   Easy to say IMO, not easy to do.  There's a LOT that needs to be done, for a victim to get from being in victim mode to survivor mode.. and eventually becoming a thriver.  It's a process, and not simple by any means. 

But do I give Crystal a pass just because of this?  Heck no!!  She cannot IMO, use this as an excuse, reason, or anything else, and just be done with it..  To do nothing because of it.. neither can her family use it that way for her.. nor can I just looking on, give her a pass just because of it.  All in IMO.   

So even tho I can look at the situation with Crystal, given what facts we do have, and try to look at all angles, and even tho I can understand in part why she doesn't... I DO think that she needs to take a stand NOW for Haleigh, despite what her choices have been in the past, for whatever reason, excuse, etc.  She's the bio-mom for pete's sake, and yesssssss they DO need to both grow up.  I don't know what is actually holding Crystal back, just as I don't know why DCF isn't making a stand for Jr.  It's all mind-boggling, to say the least.   

Not throwing nanners!    ::MonkeyBike::

 
I also wanted to say that I am sorry you had to endure all that.   :smt056


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 02:57:04 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


and love the "He77 to the no" part..  ::MonkeyDance::


Since Ronald has become "Mr. Cummings" to Miz Nancy... and because NG had the nerve to say to him on national tv, "I don't believe you"... will be surprised if Ron ever does her show again.  ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 03:00:27 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 03:01:21 PM
Thanks heart.

Good afternoon Searching.

Wyks - I like the "and then some"   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 03:04:42 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO
Yes, Crystal was not in that home when Haleigh was stolen. I won't argue with you about LE, it sure doesn't seem like they are trying very hard  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes, but if they wouldn't have dropped the ball early on, imo there would be a conclusion to this. So many mistakes were made, but nothing can be done now about that  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 03:07:12 PM
When I was about Crystal's age, I was in a situation where someone was lying about me, to many people, and my normal reaction would have been to defend myself (from the rooftops mind you).  It took everything I had (and much of what I didn't have, I had to lean on others) not to say anything.  Monkeys, you know how I like to give my opinion!!!  I am very outspoken and vocal but what was at stake was too great to risk.  I had to keep my mouth shut.  It was hard, to be the bigger person, to not retaliate, because I had some great stuff (things that would have really devastated this person if I had shared). 

I remained quiet and it was the hardest thing I've ever done.  I can tell you that it took 3 years before the people this person had lied to learned the truth.  They were all judging me and they had NO idea what the truth was.  I had people apologize to me and ask me why I didn't defend myself.  The simple truth was, I couldn't.  I got what mattered most to me, even though my reputation was unduly tarnished, I had priorities.  Maybe Crystal has her priorities straight now, and it's never too late until she's dead, to become better than what she has been.

I am not defending Crystal, I don't have a dog in this hunt, I only want to find Haleigh and if she's been murdered I want justice for her.  I just want to point out that sometimes it takes a BIGGER person to stand quietly and let God do His work.  Maybe that's what Marie is telling Crystal.  I don't profess to know, but it was my Godly mother who was coaching me.

Anyway, I love you monkeys, even the ones who disagree with me.  I am just offering another opinion for you all to digest, or disect.  ::MonkeyKiss::  Gotta go, check back later.

Every Monkey has a story, and that is why most of us are here. I am glad you told us this. Even though it seems at times we do not agree, I have always respected you, and I hope you do me too. Matter of fact, most of the time we do agree on issues.   ::MonkeyKiss::

I think we are all frustrated there doesn't seem to be a single adult with all their brain cells firing in this awful thing that has happened to Haleigh.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 03:08:51 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

She could start the same place Ron needs to, put the past where it belongs for now, get past their own selfish grudges and STAND UP TOGETHER as parents and DEMAND, not ask, demand that PCSO investigate anyone and everyone and help find THEAIR daughter, and that is just a start. They need to grown up and stand up as parents. JMO.. Hi NRCG


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 03:16:19 PM


Thank you Fanny.... not so sure after today everyone will share your sentiment..lolol  I am just tired of all the excuses for Crystal, when is enough enough ya know?  I really think that when everyone stops making excuses for her,she will step up, but as long as everyone is making excuses for her,she has no reason/need to because everyone else is doing it for her. Know what I mean?

Not to worry about agreeing, or not being popular. There is room for everyone's opinions unless it is a personal assault. Personal assaults set me a little nuts.  ::MonkeyMad::  JMO

I don't exactly agree with you about Crystal, not to say I can't see your point.  I do. But Crystal wasn't in the MH when Haleigh disappeared.  Could she do more? I hope she does. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 03:21:27 PM
Hello Monkeys,


(Simons show)


Did anyone hear, yesterday, Cobra stating: "Somethings going to POP, then you will say, on, chit"!

I believe his words, and I haven't heard a peep from anyone who caught that comment?  What in the world would that mean?  TIA
I dismiss most of what Cobra says :)

Thanks...maybe, he was referring to his case, he was vague.  I wish Greta would cover this case, she is the only one I fully trust.

Oh wow, Seahorse, I wish Greta would do this case too!!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 12, 2009, 03:22:58 PM
So I admit I have not looked at this Jerome character.  Is he the pimp for Amber and Nay Nay and that other girl from the binge weekend that Misty was with?  With wbg and nay nay when they were with the spanish men and she was working?  Men who will pimp women only see women with $$ signs imo.  And that would include all females even 5 yr old little girls.

Also on that night - Feb 9th - who took Lisa Croslin to the hospital to visit Hank, was it Lindsey or Chelsey?  I remember one did and they said they got back to the house late but can't remember which one it was. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 03:23:33 PM

Searching, forgive me but I think that stating Crystal's low profile suggests a lack of interest on her part is a bit of a stretch.
The last time she appeared on NG Nancy reamed her.  It should would cause me to retreat!   That said I do not disagree that a her Motherly presence/public appeals from time to time would be appropriate. 
Crystal could also call LE on a daily basis and bug the hell out of them, and maybe she is for all I know.



A good point, Can, she could be doing way more than it appears, we don't know for sure. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 12, 2009, 03:28:54 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on October 12, 2009, 03:29:54 PM
Hello Monkeys,


(Simons show)


Did anyone hear, yesterday, Cobra stating: "Somethings going to POP, then you will say, on, chit"!

I believe his words, and I haven't heard a peep from anyone who caught that comment?  What in the world would that mean?  TIA
I dismiss most of what Cobra says :)

Thanks...maybe, he was referring to his case, he was vague.  I wish Greta would cover this case, she is the only one I fully trust.

Oh wow, Seahorse, I wish Greta would do this case too!!! 


Seahorse I'm listening now just catching up from the weekend, I'll listen for Cobra. 

I hope somthing pops!  We need to bring Haleigh Home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 03:30:16 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO

Blue, I agree, but want to add, Crystal and, AND Ron need to come out fighting, TOGETHER , as PARENTS, without their mothers attached to their hips. JMO I would have a lot more respect for BOTH of them if they did, but right now, I have no respect for either of them. JMHO

SEARCHING, you cannot know how much it means to me to see you posting again on Haleigh's thread. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif)

I am pleased to see you posting again also, Searching.

And I totally agree that both of Haleigh's parents failed Haleigh miserably. Both of them.

I am behind again, but
     (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/MonkeyGuys/monkey-on-trike.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

She could start the same place Ron needs to, put the past where it belongs for now, get past their own selfish grudges and STAND UP TOGETHER as parents and DEMAND, not ask, demand that PCSO investigate anyone and everyone and help find THEAIR daughter, and that is just a start. They need to grown up and stand up as parents. JMO.. Hi NRCG

Now that, I absolutely agree on!  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 03:33:33 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 

So is the Hooker and the Bar Fly one in the same? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 03:35:28 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO

Good point, Blue Moon.  Cuz no matter what about anyone else, what it boils down to is that Misty was the one in charge of Haleigh that night.  LE making no charges against her yet, even for child neglect, is beyond mind-boggling, IMO.  It does seem that they just don't want to. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 03:38:30 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO

Good point, Blue Moon.  Cuz no matter what about anyone else, what it boils down to is that Misty was the one in charge of Haleigh that night.  LE making no charges against her yet, even for child neglect, is beyond mind-boggling, IMO.  It does seem that they just don't want to. 


I have been wondering if there is any LE down in Putnam County with all their brain cells firing. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 03:39:35 PM
JMO, if one wants to consider Crystal as a victim, one would have to also consider Crystal a victim of her parents, which have not always been role models. Where were they, what were they doing when Crystal was younger.

HaLeigh now is paying the cost for a long line of bad decision makers on both sides.

Very true, Heart.  Works that way for all of em, IMO.  We can look at the parents on all sides and shake our heads.  But the reality of it all, is that it seems that Haleigh paid the price.   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 03:45:20 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 

So is the Hooker and the Bar Fly one in the same? 

I  guess I should say the hooker a the Mexican throw down and the girl at the bar  are they the same girl?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 03:48:59 PM
Hello Monkeys,


(Simons show)


Did anyone hear, yesterday, Cobra stating: "Somethings going to POP, then you will say, on, chit"!

I believe his words, and I haven't heard a peep from anyone who caught that comment?  What in the world would that mean?  TIA
I dismiss most of what Cobra says :)

Thanks...maybe, he was referring to his case, he was vague.  I wish Greta would cover this case, she is the only one I fully trust.

I am giving Cobra the benefit of the doubt, "Somethings going to Pop, and then you will say oh, shet"! (quotting Cobra)
Is Lisa is going to throw someone under the bus? a wild guess. What would make me say, oh shet? almost nothing in this case!

I hear ya!!  Am thinking the only thing that would make me say that in this case, would be if Haleigh were to be rescued, alive and well.. and the one responsible for her disappearance end up being none of the players we've been looking at in all these months.     


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 12, 2009, 03:50:12 PM
Hooker and Bar Fly might be one in the same. Or WBG might have another girl around who could shed some light. But, it is eight months into this and why would / could any of these persons pinpoint what they were doing any day or night. ? I couldn't for the most part. I work and I have a log at work that I could consult, I have a day planner and I have a scheduler. I also don't delete emails except advertising. If I didn't know where I was at any given time for the past year, I could re construct. What does a drug addict remember ?     
What's wrong with us here is that most of us ( lol ) are not into this lifestyle so we have no comprehension of the culture of Satsuma. How one days haze
is the same as the haze last week.
..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 03:50:17 PM
Chrystal WAS NOT, I repeat, WAS NOT in that mobile home that night HaLeigh dissapearred.  MISTY was though.  This is one thing litle mz Misty cannot push off as not being responsible for.  Chrystal needs to come out fighting NOW.  LE is not trying to solve this case.  If they were they would not let an under-educated snotnose brat to control the investigation.   Another thing, Chrystal made the statement when she went into that mobile home that she had NEVER seen the MH because her and Ron would meet at a McDonalds (I think) to exchange the kids.  MISTY is responsible wheather she is only 17 yrs old or not.  It is time to bring her in and charge her with child neglect.  LE can do it if they want to, they just do not want to. JMO

Blue, I agree, but want to add, Crystal and, AND Ron need to come out fighting, TOGETHER , as PARENTS, without their mothers attached to their hips. JMO I would have a lot more respect for BOTH of them if they did, but right now, I have no respect for either of them. JMHO

SEARCHING, you cannot know how much it means to me to see you posting again on Haleigh's thread. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart.gif)

Ditto that!  What she said!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 03:55:25 PM
When I was about Crystal's age, I was in a situation where someone was lying about me, to many people, and my normal reaction would have been to defend myself (from the rooftops mind you).  It took everything I had (and much of what I didn't have, I had to lean on others) not to say anything.  Monkeys, you know how I like to give my opinion!!!  I am very outspoken and vocal but what was at stake was too great to risk.  I had to keep my mouth shut.  It was hard, to be the bigger person, to not retaliate, because I had some great stuff (things that would have really devastated this person if I had shared). 

I remained quiet and it was the hardest thing I've ever done.  I can tell you that it took 3 years before the people this person had lied to learned the truth.  They were all judging me and they had NO idea what the truth was.  I had people apologize to me and ask me why I didn't defend myself.  The simple truth was, I couldn't.  I got what mattered most to me, even though my reputation was unduly tarnished, I had priorities.  Maybe Crystal has her priorities straight now, and it's never too late until she's dead, to become better than what she has been.

I am not defending Crystal, I don't have a dog in this hunt, I only want to find Haleigh and if she's been murdered I want justice for her.  I just want to point out that sometimes it takes a BIGGER person to stand quietly and let God do His work.  Maybe that's what Marie is telling Crystal.  I don't profess to know, but it was my Godly mother who was coaching me.

Anyway, I love you monkeys, even the ones who disagree with me.  I am just offering another opinion for you all to digest, or disect.  ::MonkeyKiss::  Gotta go, check back later.
That makes a lot of sense, and maybe Crystal's lawyer is telling her to be quiet also. Crystal appears to be a very passive individual, I would be like her, I wouldn't be able to speak up much for myself, I see that in her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 03:57:14 PM

Thank you Fanny.... not so sure after today everyone will share your sentiment..lolol  I am just tired of all the excuses for Crystal, when is enough enough ya know?  I really think that when everyone stops making excuses for her,she will step up, but as long as everyone is making excuses for her,she has no reason/need to because everyone else is doing it for her. Know what I mean?

I hope that folks don't read what I wrote about Crystal and stop reading at the word victim/survivor.  Cuz I didn't give her a pass for that, just like others haven't. 

I still would like to slam EACH person who supposedly loved Haleigh, up against the nearest wall!   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 03:57:24 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

She could start the same place Ron needs to, put the past where it belongs for now, get past their own selfish grudges and STAND UP TOGETHER as parents and DEMAND, not ask, demand that PCSO investigate anyone and everyone and help find THEAIR daughter, and that is just a start. They need to grown up and stand up as parents. JMO.. Hi NRCG
Hi, but that just isn't going to happen all these months later, that should have been done in the beginning. Way to late in my book.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 03:57:48 PM
and i'm not even a violent person.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
When I was about Crystal's age, I was in a situation where someone was lying about me, to many people, and my normal reaction would have been to defend myself (from the rooftops mind you).  It took everything I had (and much of what I didn't have, I had to lean on others) not to say anything.  Monkeys, you know how I like to give my opinion!!!  I am very outspoken and vocal but what was at stake was too great to risk.  I had to keep my mouth shut.  It was hard, to be the bigger person, to not retaliate, because I had some great stuff (things that would have really devastated this person if I had shared). 

I remained quiet and it was the hardest thing I've ever done.  I can tell you that it took 3 years before the people this person had lied to learned the truth.  They were all judging me and they had NO idea what the truth was.  I had people apologize to me and ask me why I didn't defend myself.  The simple truth was, I couldn't.  I got what mattered most to me, even though my reputation was unduly tarnished, I had priorities.  Maybe Crystal has her priorities straight now, and it's never too late until she's dead, to become better than what she has been.

I am not defending Crystal, I don't have a dog in this hunt, I only want to find Haleigh and if she's been murdered I want justice for her.  I just want to point out that sometimes it takes a BIGGER person to stand quietly and let God do His work.  Maybe that's what Marie is telling Crystal.  I don't profess to know, but it was my Godly mother who was coaching me.

Anyway, I love you monkeys, even the ones who disagree with me.  I am just offering another opinion for you all to digest, or disect.  ::MonkeyKiss::  Gotta go, check back later.
That makes a lot of sense, and maybe Crystal's lawyer is telling her to be quiet also. Crystal appears to be a very passive individual, I would be like her, I wouldn't be able to speak up much for myself, I see that in her.

I guess you just have to get mad enough, and have enough, till you can find your backbone and bow up! Seems like a child being missing for 8 months would be enough!  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/monkey-hulk.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 04:01:35 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 

So is the Hooker and the Bar Fly one in the same? 

I  guess I should say the hooker a the Mexican throw down and the girl at the bar  are they the same girl?

The Bar Fly admitted to having gone there where the threesome was going on to buy drugs. So my guess is no, not the same.

But this is just an opinion.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 12, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

She could start the same place Ron needs to, put the past where it belongs for now, get past their own selfish grudges and STAND UP TOGETHER as parents and DEMAND, not ask, demand that PCSO investigate anyone and everyone and help find THEAIR daughter, and that is just a start. They need to grown up and stand up as parents. JMO.. Hi NRCG

LE surely must have the results back from the door and other evidence back by now along with the phone records.. Tommy ,GGranny Sykes and her companion place there themselves that evening at the MH after the some facts were presented. Does Mother Teresa know more she never has an answer on NG let alone Ron.. Its been stated many times Misty is the Key a teenager/ babysister who married the missing child Haleigh's father Ron 1 month later who knew of her drug/ sexapes trist. TN stating Misty was so exhausted that night and did not hear the knocking at the door but was on the phone with Ron  around 8 or 8:30 pm about babysitting that night and fighting . Hmmm I thought Misty was so exhausted.. Why was LE drilling TN and had her in tears.. My guess she is not being truthfull or hiding info that could help with the case... Lets not forget the beds were made, blankets, gun, a fight,the delayed 911 call and about the  dirty laundry.  There was NO missing breathing machine.. Why is Ron playing both sides.
I find it hard to believe Ron and his family doesnt know anything that happened that night. What part did they play in and why? Why didn't Ron call his mom or GGranny that night when he could not reach Misty? Is this why GGranny went to check on the MH and what time did she really arrive.. Where was Mother Teresa that night and what time did she really arrive..

If I was Crystal there is no way I would want to have any part of Ron knowing the situation and him and his family protecting Misty as  Misty, Ron and his family would be on my rador too...... Crystal has made mistakes in her life but she was NOT the last one to see Haleigh and is not the Key.. Crystal beating up Misty or taking JR will not help in bringing Haleigh home. Crystal being quiet might just be the best thing and let the cards unfold..

And as far as Ron is concern he should of been arrested as a sex offender as the rules should of been applied to him just like all the other S/O.. ...JMO

God Bless Haleigh... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 04:02:26 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 
Great post. Why can't they find this girl, is she dead, is she on the run, did she run away and is living under a different identity?  ::MonkeyRoll:: I agree LE is ineffective and were from the start, and I will say again, three dogs hitting on that dumpster meant something, they didn't hit on it for no reason.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 04:03:04 PM
When I was about Crystal's age, I was in a situation where someone was lying about me, to many people, and my normal reaction would have been to defend myself (from the rooftops mind you).  It took everything I had (and much of what I didn't have, I had to lean on others) not to say anything.  Monkeys, you know how I like to give my opinion!!!  I am very outspoken and vocal but what was at stake was too great to risk.  I had to keep my mouth shut.  It was hard, to be the bigger person, to not retaliate, because I had some great stuff (things that would have really devastated this person if I had shared). 

I remained quiet and it was the hardest thing I've ever done.  I can tell you that it took 3 years before the people this person had lied to learned the truth.  They were all judging me and they had NO idea what the truth was.  I had people apologize to me and ask me why I didn't defend myself.  The simple truth was, I couldn't.  I got what mattered most to me, even though my reputation was unduly tarnished, I had priorities.  Maybe Crystal has her priorities straight now, and it's never too late until she's dead, to become better than what she has been.

I am not defending Crystal, I don't have a dog in this hunt, I only want to find Haleigh and if she's been murdered I want justice for her.  I just want to point out that sometimes it takes a BIGGER person to stand quietly and let God do His work.  Maybe that's what Marie is telling Crystal.  I don't profess to know, but it was my Godly mother who was coaching me.

Anyway, I love you monkeys, even the ones who disagree with me.  I am just offering another opinion for you all to digest, or disect.  ::MonkeyKiss::  Gotta go, check back later.

Totally 100% agree, O4Bull!  Especially the part I bolded.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 04:03:08 PM
and i'm not even a violent person.   ::MonkeyTongue::


I'm not either.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Really.  ::MonkeyShocked::

Not even.  ::MonkeyCool::

Just like you were yesteday.  ::MonkeyTongue::

Honest.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 04:04:17 PM
JMO, if one wants to consider Crystal as a victim, one would have to also consider Crystal a victim of her parents, which have not always been role models. Where were they, what were they doing when Crystal was younger.

HaLeigh now is paying the cost for a long line of bad decision makers on both sides.

Very true, Heart.  Works that way for all of em, IMO.  We can look at the parents on all sides and shake our heads.  But the reality of it all, is that it seems that Haleigh paid the price.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Yes, she did, and if something isn't done with Jr, he will pay the price as well. Actually where I'm sitting he is already paying a huge price  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 04:07:20 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 

So is the Hooker and the Bar Fly one in the same? 

I  guess I should say the hooker a the Mexican throw down and the girl at the bar  are they the same girl?

The Bar Fly admitted to having gone there where the threesome was going on to buy drugs. So my guess is no, not the same.

But this is just an opinion.

Maybe she was part of the threesome, because how else would she know?? Do people that are going to do threesomes walk into a bar and buy drugs and announce they are going to do threesomes? Hasn't happened in any bars I've been in. Not that I have been in any bars in Satsuma. Maybe that the norm.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 04:07:27 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 

So is the Hooker and the Bar Fly one in the same? 

I  guess I should say the hooker a the Mexican throw down and the girl at the bar  are they the same girl?
  mymonkey I don't know, perhaps they are one in the same. Remember when one of our posters was talking about one of her relatives or friends had info about Misty and where she was that night? I can't remember what the poster said, but did this girl/boy ever report to LE about this, and there was some talk about he/she was afraid to come forward with the info  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 04:08:49 PM

Wyks, I do know how hard it is and believe me when I say I do not feel that way. Those were someone else's words,not mine and I was pointing out if we can say this about something as serious and vile as rape, then I think we can expect Crystal's "victim of Ron" excuse to be used up. JMO

I too, think we can expect that, Searching.  And I know those weren't 'your words', because I also included other words that have been used in the past, it was 'the jist' of it all that I was referring to, not specifically your words, k?  Am thinking that bottom line, most of us are on the same page, no matter which avenue we use to get there.   ::MonkeyKiss::
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 04:12:10 PM

 I also wanted to say that I am sorry you had to endure all that.   :smt056

Thank you, Seaching.  <hugs> 

I feel that whatever folks have endured in their life, it 'can' serve to make them stronger, if they let it. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 04:16:49 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 

So is the Hooker and the Bar Fly one in the same? 

I  guess I should say the hooker a the Mexican throw down and the girl at the bar  are they the same girl?

The Bar Fly admitted to having gone there where the threesome was going on to buy drugs. So my guess is no, not the same.

But this is just an opinion.

Maybe she was part of the threesome, because how else would she know?? Do people that are going to do threesomes walk into a bar and buy drugs and announce they are going to do threesomes? Hasn't happened in any bars I've been in. Not that I have been in any bars in Satsuma. Maybe that the norm.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

The way I understand it, the Bar Fly went to the "party house" where the threesome was occurring to buy drugs. Which is how she knew Misty was there that night.

But now it seems there is some confusion as to which "night" that was.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 12, 2009, 04:21:04 PM
Sometimes people who have been thru alot and come out the other side
turn into the best persons in the world. They have compassion for others and can understand more than an educated person ( a book reader / memorizer ) when it comes to human nature and the dark side of.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 04:27:42 PM
Did Cobra have his court case today?

If so, has anyone heard anything about how that went?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 04:34:18 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 

Crystal's attorney = http://www.carolcaldwelllaw.com/   Carol A. Caldwell, Attorney at Law

http://www.carolcaldwelllaw.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 04:36:31 PM
Sometimes people who have been thru alot and come out the other side
turn into the best persons in the world. They have compassion for others and can understand more than an educated person ( a book reader / memorizer ) when it comes to human nature and the dark side of.
True  ::MonkeyCool::  And Jersey, good to see you, great post  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 04:37:37 PM
Did Cobra have his court case today?

If so, has anyone heard anything about how that went?

Nothing so far to my knowledge

UCN: 542009CF000488XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-03-25   Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM    
Defense Atty: HOLMES, DONALD E

Defendant
STAUBS, WILLIAM EUGENE
Alias

Date   #   Docket Description
2009-03-25   1   COMPLAINT FILED: DANIEL SNODGRASS PCSO 3-20-09
2009-03-25   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2009-03-25   1   FALSE IMPRISONMENT
2009-05-15   2   AMENDED COMPLAINT: DS/K TAYLOR 3-20-09
2009-05-15   2   FALSE INPRISONMENT
2009-05-21   3   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $5,004.00 AWN
2009-05-22   4   WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
2009-05-22   5   ARREST REPORT - FALSE IMPRISONMENT
2009-05-22   5   BOND SET AT $5004.00-NICHOLS
2009-05-26   6   AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2009-05-26   7   $5004.00 (BAIL YES)#10-391214
2009-05-26   8   DEFT NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
2009-06-26   9   INFORMATION (FALSE IMPRISONMENT)
2009-06-26   10   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (08/03/2009)
2009-06-26   11   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (08/03/2009)
2009-08-03   12   ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 09/03/2009
2009-08-04   13   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE OF COUNSEL; WAIVER OF PERSONAL
2009-08-04   13   APPEARANCE AT ARRAIGNMENT; WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY
2009-08-04   13   FILED BY DONALD HOLMES
2009-08-04   14   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
2009-08-05   15   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (09/03/2009)
2009-08-05   16   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (09/03/2009)
2009-09-03   17   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY DONALD HOLMES
2009-09-03   17   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2009-09-03   17   CONTINUED TO 10/12/2009
2009-09-14   18   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (10/12/2009)
2009-09-14   19   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (10/12/2009)
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 04:41:29 PM
Did Cobra have his court case today?

If so, has anyone heard anything about how that went?

TrotlineDesigns @THESKY973DOTCOM What do you think.. Cobra will get out of all this? Just a guess is all I am asking forabout 2 hours ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM
http://twitter.com/TrotlineDesigns

@TrotlineDesigns This will be a tough battle over something that should have remained tossed out as was the first time. Not looking good nowabout 3 hours ago from web in reply to TrotlineDesigns
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 12, 2009, 04:44:23 PM
Sometimes people who have been thru alot and come out the other side
turn into the best persons in the world. They have compassion for others and can understand more than an educated person ( a book reader / memorizer ) when it comes to human nature and the dark side of.
True  ::MonkeyCool::  And Jersey, good to see you, great post  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks Rose..   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 04:49:33 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 

So is the Hooker and the Bar Fly one in the same? 

I  guess I should say the hooker a the Mexican throw down and the girl at the bar  are they the same girl?
  mymonkey I don't know, perhaps they are one in the same. Remember when one of our posters was talking about one of her relatives or friends had info about Misty and where she was that night? I can't remember what the poster said, but did this girl/boy ever report to LE about this, and there was some talk about he/she was afraid to come forward with the info  ::MonkeyConfused::
Yes nrcg, as I understand the SM poster's relative or associate was said to have contacted Putnam LE once she left there.  However I don't know what if anything came of it.

I also thought about this person when Cobra and TJ was talking on Blogger Talk Radio.  But I do not know if one has anything to do with the other.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 05:04:09 PM
Cummings' Attorney Talks On National TV
Attorney: Ronald Thinks Misty Has Always Told Truth In Haleigh's Disappearance


POSTED: Monday, October 12, 2009
UPDATED: 4:56 pm EDT October 12, 2009

Ronald Cummings is now speaking through his attorney after his wife was interviewed on national television last week.

Cumming's attorney, Brandon Beardsley, talked on the CBS' "The Early Show" about why Ronald and Misty are divorcing and what his client thinks about reports Misty is not giving police the whole story about his daughter Haleigh's disappearance.

Misty Cummings is also now pointing a finger at other family members, suggesting they may have something to do with what happened to Haleigh.

She said police need to stop asking her about what happened to Haleigh and that they should instead go ask Haleigh's mother and her family about what happened.

Cummings' attorney addressed on the morning show what he said Haleigh's dad is thinking about his own wife, the last person to see his daughter.

"He's always thought she told the truth," Beardsley said. "He's had discrepancies between different things said but stood by her all along."


Misty Cummings was interviewed live Friday on the CBS program "Early Show."
Even though Putnam County investigators have said they do not believe Misty is telling them everything about the night Haleigh disappeared from her Satsuma bed, it appears that is not the reason Ronald and Misty are divorcing.

"The divorce came out of all the pressure all day long," Beardsley said.

The latest interview with Cummings' attorney came just hours after Misty Cummings made her own accusations about what happened to her step-daughter, suggesting that Haleigh's mother's family knows more than they're telling.

"I don't think she had something to do with it, just someone on her side of the family," Misty said.

Putnam County investigators have interviewed Haleigh's mom, Crystal Sheffield, and have always said that's she's cooperated with their investigation.

Anyone who has any information about what happened to Haleigh is asked to call Crimestoppers at 888-277-8477.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/21275011/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 05:12:24 PM
HaleighNewz NANCY GRACE: Coverage of the HaLeigh Cummings Case Tonight 8 PM ET & 10 PM ET.about 1 hour ago from HootSuite
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 Nancy Grace
Tonight: Shocking new details come to light in the case Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh’s stepmom babysitter Misty Croslin breaks her silence again – Misty says that she believes someone on Haleigh’s mother’s side may have Haleigh! Misty also believes that... her own brother betrayed her in attempt to clear his name and get out of jail, saying “That’s how my family is.” Will Ronald continue to stand by Misty? Watch tonight!Read More
4 hours ago
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Just In: Bride-to-be on the eve of her wedding shot to death in the chest. Man allegedly shoots his fiancé with a (cont) http://tl.gd/lg1pabout 1 hour ago from Twitlonger
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 Nancy Grace
Tonight: Shocking new details come to light in the case Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh’s stepmom babysitter Misty Croslin breaks her silence again – Misty says that she believes someone on Haleigh’s mother’s side may have Haleigh! Misty also believes that... her own brother betrayed her in attempt to clear his name and get out of jail, saying “That’s how my family is.” Will Ronald continue to stand by Misty? Watch tonight!Read More
4 hours ago
http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 05:13:03 PM
Cummings' Attorney Talks On National TV
Attorney: Ronald Thinks Misty Has Always Told Truth In Haleigh's Disappearance


POSTED: Monday, October 12, 2009
UPDATED: 4:56 pm EDT October 12, 2009

Ronald Cummings is now speaking through his attorney after his wife was interviewed on national television last week.

Cumming's attorney, Brandon Beardsley, talked on the CBS' "The Early Show" about why Ronald and Misty are divorcing and what his client thinks about reports Misty is not giving police the whole story about his daughter Haleigh's disappearance.

Misty Cummings is also now pointing a finger at other family members, suggesting they may have something to do with what happened to Haleigh.

She said police need to stop asking her about what happened to Haleigh and that they should instead go ask Haleigh's mother and her family about what happened.

Cummings' attorney addressed on the morning show what he said Haleigh's dad is thinking about his own wife, the last person to see his daughter.

"He's always thought she told the truth," Beardsley said. "He's had discrepancies between different things said but stood by her all along."


Misty Cummings was interviewed live Friday on the CBS program "Early Show."
Even though Putnam County investigators have said they do not believe Misty is telling them everything about the night Haleigh disappeared from her Satsuma bed, it appears that is not the reason Ronald and Misty are divorcing.

"The divorce came out of all the pressure all day long," Beardsley said.

The latest interview with Cummings' attorney came just hours after Misty Cummings made her own accusations about what happened to her step-daughter, suggesting that Haleigh's mother's family knows more than they're telling.

"I don't think she had something to do with it, just someone on her side of the family," Misty said.

Putnam County investigators have interviewed Haleigh's mom, Crystal Sheffield, and have always said that's she's cooperated with their investigation.

Anyone who has any information about what happened to Haleigh is asked to call Crimestoppers at 888-277-8477.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/21275011/detail.html

Um ... not that it is really important, but it was Cummings' attorney Terry Shoemaker who appeared on the Early Show, not Brandon Beardsley.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: jules3699 on October 12, 2009, 05:19:30 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 

So is the Hooker and the Bar Fly one in the same? 

I  guess I should say the hooker a the Mexican throw down and the girl at the bar  are they the same girl?
  mymonkey I don't know, perhaps they are one in the same. Remember when one of our posters was talking about one of her relatives or friends had info about Misty and where she was that night? I can't remember what the poster said, but did this girl/boy ever report to LE about this, and there was some talk about he/she was afraid to come forward with the info  ::MonkeyConfused::

I remember that No Rose, She said it was her daughters friend and she was going to tell her to report it or else she would.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 12, 2009, 05:22:27 PM
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

# @trialjunkie Cobra's trial is now set for Dec 14th, 2009. A special prosecutor will be used. They want to make him a poster child for this
about 4 hours ago from web in reply to trialjunkie


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 05:23:50 PM
O/T

First Coast pair among Florida's youngest female inmates


http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-10-11/story/first_coast_pair_among_floridas_youngest_female_inmates


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 12, 2009, 05:24:07 PM
Hello Monkeys,


(Simons show)


Did anyone hear, yesterday, Cobra stating: "Somethings going to POP, then you will say, on, chit"!

I believe his words, and I haven't heard a peep from anyone who caught that comment?  What in the world would that mean?  TIA
I dismiss most of what Cobra says :)

Thanks...maybe, he was referring to his case, he was vague.  I wish Greta would cover this case, she is the only one I fully trust.

Oh wow, Seahorse, I wish Greta would do this case too!!! 


Seahorse I'm listening now just catching up from the weekend, I'll listen for Cobra. 

I hope somthing pops!  We need to bring Haleigh Home.

Speculation:

OK, if I heard correctly, yesterday,....Cobra, said "Somethin' is going pop, you all say, OH Chet"..
.
OK, Lisa owned a truck... Was it Lisa's truck that pushed Nay Nay"s or Amber's car out of the mud? 

Was it Lisa and Tommy
who pushed Nay Nay's car out of the mud?  Was Amber was driving Nay Nay's car?

This would give me pause to say..hymm...but what would push me over to  say "oh chet"?

Unless Lisa knows more...This is speculation, I need to speculate on work right now and stop trying to project my thinking.:) IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 05:25:01 PM
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

# @trialjunkie Cobra's trial is now set for Dec 14th, 2009. A special prosecutor will be used. They want to make him a poster child for this
about 4 hours ago from web in reply to trialjunkie

Thanks cece!  Oh boy!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 05:29:09 PM
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

# @trialjunkie Cobra's trial is now set for Dec 14th, 2009. A special prosecutor will be used. They want to make him a poster child for this
about 4 hours ago from web in reply to trialjunkie

Thanks, cece.

Interesting opinion there from TJ Hart.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 05:29:30 PM
Ron Jr is with FAB. Maybe that is what is holding Crystal back. She must have a lawyer and perhaps her lawyer is telling her what to do. IMO
Crystal is a passive person and there is something else going on with her, remember the seizures ? Crytal doesn't seem like she would like to wrestle in the mud, but Marie sure seems to have some spunk.
..
As far as some of the recent information about the girl who told Tim Miller about Misty being out and doing drugs that night ? LE wants to talk to her.
I went to Art Harris's site last night and tried to retrieve something from his articles and could not. The weekend before, Knay Knay drove a girl to a house
so that she could do some " work " . WBG and Misty were in the vehicle and did go into that house so this girl could do "work" for several guys. Knay Knay says that she stayed the night ( Sunday ) at this girl's house. Why can't they find this girl ? Are they even trying ? It's been EIGHT months.
The girl's name I believe is Lindsay ( sp ) .
..
I feel very mad that LE seems to be ineffective. Look at Mist, IQ on the low side, same for Ron and they seem to have outsmarted PCSD. Doesn't say much for Jeff Hardy or PCSD. I've cut Misty alot of slack in my opinion of her given her background but her blaming the Sheffields, well, that says where she's at and no amount of pampering or talking is going to make a damn thing happen. Arrest her or follow her 24/7 and keep picking her and Ron up for drugs. At least that might help the child that is with Ron. 

So is the Hooker and the Bar Fly one in the same? 

I  guess I should say the hooker a the Mexican throw down and the girl at the bar  are they the same girl?
  mymonkey I don't know, perhaps they are one in the same. Remember when one of our posters was talking about one of her relatives or friends had info about Misty and where she was that night? I can't remember what the poster said, but did this girl/boy ever report to LE about this, and there was some talk about he/she was afraid to come forward with the info  ::MonkeyConfused::
Yes nrcg, as I understand the SM poster's relative or associate was said to have contacted Putnam LE once she left there.  However I don't know what if anything came of it.

I also thought about this person when Cobra and TJ was talking on Blogger Talk Radio.  But I do not know if one has anything to do with the other.
Thanks, I know that was awhile ago just couldn't remember what happened with that info  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 05:32:43 PM
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

# @trialjunkie Cobra's trial is now set for Dec 14th, 2009. A special prosecutor will be used. They want to make him a poster child for this
about 4 hours ago from web in reply to trialjunkie
Thanks, and thanks Jules.  ( She said police need to stop asking her about what happened to Haleigh and that they should instead go ask Haleigh's mother and her family about what happened.) From article above, well okay Misty, maybe that is what LE will do  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 05:35:55 PM
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

# @trialjunkie Cobra's trial is now set for Dec 14th, 2009. A special prosecutor will be used. They want to make him a poster child for this
about 4 hours ago from web in reply to trialjunkie

Thanks, cece.

Interesting opinion there from TJ Hart.
A special prosecutor for Cobra's trial. But a girl that should be picked up for child endangerment is going to Universal Studios, everything is wacky world.   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 05:43:48 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

She could start the same place Ron needs to, put the past where it belongs for now, get past their own selfish grudges and STAND UP TOGETHER as parents and DEMAND, not ask, demand that PCSO investigate anyone and everyone and help find THEAIR daughter, and that is just a start. They need to grown up and stand up as parents. JMO.. Hi NRCG
Hi, but that just isn't going to happen all these months later, that should have been done in the beginning. Way to late in my book.

Agreed, but not sure I could stand together with the one person who left my kids to be watched by a dysfunctional teenager who just came off a 3 day sex/drugs binge without kicking him in what little cajones he may have..........I'm sure I'd hold him culpable of a disatrous decision that most likely cost my child their life ::MonkeyMad:: Added to that the fact that FAB was standing behind the one who got Haleigh "stole" and then watch him perpetuate her lies about what happened that night.......nah, I couldn't do it.

FYI~I have no idea when my son get's out of school, I THINK it's around 2:20 and honestly since he is in aftercare there is no need for me to know that down to the minute, if I had to go pick him up I just go get him ::MonkeyKiss::

BBL~Fooball practice ::MonkeyFootball::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 05:45:42 PM
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

# @trialjunkie Cobra's trial is now set for Dec 14th, 2009. A special prosecutor will be used. They want to make him a poster child for this
about 4 hours ago from web in reply to trialjunkie

A poster child for what?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 05:53:59 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

She could start the same place Ron needs to, put the past where it belongs for now, get past their own selfish grudges and STAND UP TOGETHER as parents and DEMAND, not ask, demand that PCSO investigate anyone and everyone and help find THEAIR daughter, and that is just a start. They need to grown up and stand up as parents. JMO.. Hi NRCG

LE surely must have the results back from the door and other evidence back by now along with the phone records.. Tommy ,GGranny Sykes and her companion place there themselves that evening at the MH after the some facts were presented. Does Mother Teresa know more she never has an answer on NG let alone Ron.. Its been stated many times Misty is the Key a teenager/ babysister who married the missing child Haleigh's father Ron 1 month later who knew of her drug/ sexapes trist. TN stating Misty was so exhausted that night and did not hear the knocking at the door but was on the phone with Ron  around 8 or 8:30 pm about babysitting that night and fighting . Hmmm I thought Misty was so exhausted.. Why was LE drilling TN and had her in tears.. My guess she is not being truthfull or hiding info that could help with the case... Lets not forget the beds were made, blankets, gun, a fight,the delayed 911 call and about the  dirty laundry.  There was NO missing breathing machine.. Why is Ron playing both sides.
I find it hard to believe Ron and his family doesnt know anything that happened that night. What part did they play in and why? Why didn't Ron call his mom or GGranny that night when he could not reach Misty? Is this why GGranny went to check on the MH and what time did she really arrive.. Where was Mother Teresa that night and what time did she really arrive..

If I was Crystal there is no way I would want to have any part of Ron knowing the situation and him and his family protecting Misty as  Misty, Ron and his family would be on my rador too...... Crystal has made mistakes in her life but she was NOT the last one to see Haleigh and is not the Key.. Crystal beating up Misty or taking JR will not help in bringing Haleigh home. Crystal being quiet might just be the best thing and let the cards unfold..

And as far as Ron is concern he should of been arrested as a sex offender as the rules should of been applied to him just like all the other S/O.. ...JMO

God Bless Haleigh... ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyDance:: It's like you read my mind Jersey, wonderful post and I'd like to add that at least Crystal "owned" her past when it came to drug usage during the custody trial, and he continued to lie.......looks like he has been rewarded over and over for lying so I see no reason now for him to start telling the truth ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 06:27:56 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.


NOT unppular with me, I agree.

not unpopular with me either...I agree as well...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 06:36:58 PM
IMO, the ball is now in the Sheffield's court.  Enter stage left, with the Sheffield's swinging.  And I wouldn't blame them one dang bit.  Buckle up and hang on folks, this is likely gonna be a bumpy ride.


This may make me unpopular here but so be it.  Crystal failed and is still failing imo.  I am sick of the excuses and imo she deserves none of them. 

Marie may come out -  Crystal I will not hold my breath for.  NG had it right when she stated to Crystal that Haleigh never had a chance.    jmo.



Morning FCL!  The good news is.. this isn't a popularity contest.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Your opinion is what matters, how you feel.  And trust me, I swing back and forth on my own theories so much, am not even sure how I'm feeling on any given person on any given day.  lol  Am an equal-opportunity theorist. 

Yes, am thinking that if anyone, it will likely be Marie coming out in defense mode for Crystal.  Does it mean to me that she is hiding behind her mama the way that I think Ron is hiding behind his?  Nope.  To me, it seems that Crystal doesn't have any fight left in her, and perhaps for good reason, based on having lived life with the likes of Ron. 

I do agree with you that Crystal has made her share of wrong choices, perhaps more than her share.  And yet, I do see Crystal as a victim/survivor of Ron's, which *could* explain many of her wrong choices.  I all too well understand and know that victim/survivor mode, as do many monkeys. 

But does it give Crystal a pass in not stepping up for Haleigh?  I dunno.  Of anyone in this case, am thinking that Crystal would be the only one to do so with some class and grace.  I currently see her as having stayed in the background to regain some measure of strength.  She may not have the fight in her to do what needs to be done for Haleigh.  Which is why, am thinking, that Marie comes out for her right now.  MUCH different, IMO, than what Ron is doing with TN. 

And even after having said all that, I do still have a couple different theories re Haleigh and the Sheffields, incl Crystal, Chad, Marie, etc. 

We just don't know yet who did what, and there are three sides to Haleigh's family.  The Sheffields, the Cummings, and the Croslins.  Could be any or all of them, IMO.  So I don't give ANY of them a pass, not yet.  Not without more factual info.  No matter what my personal opinion is for any one person in all the three families.  As much as I dislike Ron, personally, based on what we've seen of his own actions and non-actions, and as much as I can at times empathize with Crystal based on what we've seen of hers... and (ick) Misty with hers... I can't point to any one person just based on the wrong choices they've made in the past. 

What it may come down to is that because of ALL the wrong choices of ALL members of each of the three families, *could be* what caused this situation with Haleigh.  IMO. 

And I agree, Haleigh never had a chance..  ::MonkeyWaa::

I also think it's the very best argument in removing Jr from that environment, at once.  If nothing else, let's be sure not to let the same thing happen to him. 

Hope some of this made sense.



   

Wyks, you know I love you  ::MonkeyKiss:: and I know I am not popular but... BBM part... Ok, so you and many others see her as a victim of Ron,fine,but but but, how long is that going to be the running excuse for her inaction.Just sayin,because the way I see it, she is not standing up for her daughter, she has been living away from Ron for four years and IMO she has had long enough to put her big girl panties on and stand up for her daughter. The victim of Ron excuse is all played out for me,sorry. This is my opinion and I know nanners will be thrown and that is fine, but like I was told last week I think it was,on the rape issue, "you pick yourself up and move on, can't be a victim forever". soooo, to me, Crystal is NOT getting a pass on not standing up and yes, she is hiding behind Marie IMO and she and Ron BOTH need to stop hiding behind their mommies and grow the heck up, they THEY have a missing child and it is high time BOTH grow up and step up.  JMO.. and I do love you and respect your opinion.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching you must of been reading me composing a response post to that cuz you basically stated what I had in mind.  3yrs is more than enough and she is moved on. 

If she truely cared she would be very involved with LE and all things Haleigh.  I would of been sittin there w/my little note pad and known everything about Haleigh's last day from schools to neighbors.  She does not need to be in contact with Ron in her pursuit of that info but she has done nothing.  I'm very disappointed in her because she is the one I expected something from and yet we have nothing.  Just more and more excuses made on her behalf.  IMO Marie has spoke out more and done more.  She makes me angry so I will leave it alone.  JMO

agreed Searching and Fatcat...enough is enough...no one else is going to be there for Haleigh as it looks, it is about time that Crystal gets assertive and gets this case moving! imo...she wasn't there for Haleigh for the last few years, she can start by fighting for her now...jmo...I think that Crystal is the best one out of the bunch really, but I am disgusted by her as much as the others...She is Haleigh and Jr's only hope it seems...grow up Crystal! it is time!!!! jmo...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 06:41:26 PM
I just think it is way past time to take Misty behind to woodshed and get the truth out of her, instead of taking her to Orlando for a wild time and to New York to be a celebrity. Whoever does it will suit me just fine. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 06:41:26 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

She could start the same place Ron needs to, put the past where it belongs for now, get past their own selfish grudges and STAND UP TOGETHER as parents and DEMAND, not ask, demand that PCSO investigate anyone and everyone and help find THEAIR daughter, and that is just a start. They need to grown up and stand up as parents. JMO.. Hi NRCG
Hi, but that just isn't going to happen all these months later, that should have been done in the beginning. Way to late in my book.

Agreed, but not sure I could stand together with the one person who left my kids to be watched by a dysfunctional teenager who just came off a 3 day sex/drugs binge without kicking him in what little cajones he may have..........I'm sure I'd hold him culpable of a disatrous decision that most likely cost my child their life ::MonkeyMad:: Added to that the fact that FAB was standing behind the one who got Haleigh "stole" and then watch him perpetuate her lies about what happened that night.......nah, I couldn't do it.

FYI~I have no idea when my son get's out of school, I THINK it's around 2:20 and honestly since he is in aftercare there is no need for me to know that down to the minute, if I had to go pick him up I just go get him ::MonkeyKiss::

BBL~Fooball practice ::MonkeyFootball::
I am sorry, but I would swallow my pride and bite the bullet and stand next to him if that is what it took to find my child,but that's just me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 12, 2009, 06:52:40 PM
# ACTION NEWZ JAX: Ronald Cummings' lawyer on the next step http://ow.ly/u2ONless than a minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 06:55:12 PM
me too Searching...
NO more excuses Crystal!! no more excuses Ron! no more excuses grand parents who say they love Haleigh so much! prove it!

by the way, when is the Haleighbug center set to reopen at Crystal's house? see, this is what I am talking about...she was supposed to open it up as soon as she cleaned out the guest house...Does she not care enough to get herself out there and get it cleaned up and the Haleighbug center open again? I thought that it was for tips and stuff like that? otherwise, just install another phone line in the home and call it the Haleighbug Center...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 06:56:45 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

She could start the same place Ron needs to, put the past where it belongs for now, get past their own selfish grudges and STAND UP TOGETHER as parents and DEMAND, not ask, demand that PCSO investigate anyone and everyone and help find THEAIR daughter, and that is just a start. They need to grown up and stand up as parents. JMO.. Hi NRCG
Hi, but that just isn't going to happen all these months later, that should have been done in the beginning. Way to late in my book.

Agreed, but not sure I could stand together with the one person who left my kids to be watched by a dysfunctional teenager who just came off a 3 day sex/drugs binge without kicking him in what little cajones he may have..........I'm sure I'd hold him culpable of a disatrous decision that most likely cost my child their life ::MonkeyMad:: Added to that the fact that FAB was standing behind the one who got Haleigh "stole" and then watch him perpetuate her lies about what happened that night.......nah, I couldn't do it.

FYI~I have no idea when my son get's out of school, I THINK it's around 2:20 and honestly since he is in aftercare there is no need for me to know that down to the minute, if I had to go pick him up I just go get him ::MonkeyKiss::

BBL~Fooball practice ::MonkeyFootball::
I am sorry, but I would swallow my pride and bite the bullet and stand next to him if that is what it took to find my child,but that's just me.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: It has nothing to do with pride and everything to do with standing beside the one who is standing up for and beside the number 1 suspect, and IMO Ron's on that list too. Plus, he has nothing to offer so far, except I don't know Mz. Nancy I was at werk, so I can undestand her reluctance to stand beside FAB..............what could she possibly gain from him??????? ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 06:58:58 PM
# ACTION NEWZ JAX: Ronald Cummings' lawyer on the next step http://ow.ly/u2ONless than a minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Thanks Trimm, I read that-he wants to set up non-profit org to get donations to hire PI........... ::MonkeyRoll:: I thought he just rec'd 12m, he could have started with that IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:01:49 PM
HaleighNewz RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand


Take it FWIW it's from twitter, but I may turn on my scanner!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 07:02:20 PM
well geez,,,we could get into the same old same old Ron vs Crystal...who was the better parent but it ain't gonna solve where Haleigh is right now...they both made mistakes...we could say Ron should not have left the kids with Misty...agreed! hear that loud and clear...Crystal could have stayed in town and helped raise her children too...she could have tried harder to get custody....Ron could have not been such an ass...blah blah blah...the grand mothers on both sides could have helped out more...on and on...
but ....where is Haleigh? who is gonna get the ball rolling and get her found? if both parents stood together and were united...maybe they could both go to LE and find out what they heck are they doing to find THEIR  daughter....

no more excuses or passes for any of these family members..they all make me sick...all of them! none of them deserve those kids as far as I am concerned...jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 12, 2009, 07:02:31 PM
RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand
2 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


(I don't have the scanner on.  Did anyone hear anything?)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:05:58 PM
RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand
2 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


(I don't have the scanner on.  Did anyone hear anything?)
No, I just now turned it on when I read that on twitter, but am listening now.....dead silence so far


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 12, 2009, 07:07:52 PM
RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand
2 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


(I don't have the scanner on.  Did anyone hear anything?)
No, I just now turned it on when I read that on twitter, but am listening now.....dead silence so far

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Same for me!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:10:32 PM
RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand
2 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


(I don't have the scanner on.  Did anyone hear anything?)
No, I just now turned it on when I read that on twitter, but am listening now.....dead silence so far

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Same for me!

I just heard a bit about McDonalds, but it was really broken up.......now, I feel like I can't leave and I really need to run an errand because I've been on the beach all day being a bum, but am going to be glued to the d@mn scanner now ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 12, 2009, 07:15:08 PM
RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand
2 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


(I don't have the scanner on.  Did anyone hear anything?)
No, I just now turned it on when I read that on twitter, but am listening now.....dead silence so far

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Same for me!

I just heard a bit about McDonalds, but it was really broken up.......now, I feel like I can't leave and I really need to run an errand because I've been on the beach all day being a bum, but am going to be glued to the d@mn scanner now ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

I can only make out about half of what they say.  But I did hear McDonalds


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:18:17 PM
RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand
2 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


(I don't have the scanner on.  Did anyone hear anything?)
No, I just now turned it on when I read that on twitter, but am listening now.....dead silence so far

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Same for me!

I just heard a bit about McDonalds, but it was really broken up.......now, I feel like I can't leave and I really need to run an errand because I've been on the beach all day being a bum, but am going to be glued to the d@mn scanner now ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

I can only make out about half of what they say.  But I did hear McDonalds

The static horrible, and even they are complaining about it ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:23:08 PM
RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand
2 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


(I don't have the scanner on.  Did anyone hear anything?)
No, I just now turned it on when I read that on twitter, but am listening now.....dead silence so far

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Same for me!

I just heard a bit about McDonalds, but it was really broken up.......now, I feel like I can't leave and I really need to run an errand because I've been on the beach all day being a bum, but am going to be glued to the d@mn scanner now ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

I can only make out about half of what they say.  But I did hear McDonalds

The static horrible, and even they are complaining about it ::MonkeyConfused::
Maybe somebody was staring at Ronald while he was at McDonalds and he called the law. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:28:04 PM
RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand
2 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


(I don't have the scanner on.  Did anyone hear anything?)
No, I just now turned it on when I read that on twitter, but am listening now.....dead silence so far

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Same for me!

I just heard a bit about McDonalds, but it was really broken up.......now, I feel like I can't leave and I really need to run an errand because I've been on the beach all day being a bum, but am going to be glued to the d@mn scanner now ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

I can only make out about half of what they say.  But I did hear McDonalds

The static horrible, and even they are complaining about it ::MonkeyConfused::
Maybe somebody was staring at Ronald while he was at McDonalds and he called the law. ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

LMAO~maybe someone called him FAB ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 12, 2009, 07:28:40 PM
JVM going to talk about RC and MC in Haleigh case next few minutes...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 12, 2009, 07:28:59 PM
RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand
2 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


(I don't have the scanner on.  Did anyone hear anything?)
No, I just now turned it on when I read that on twitter, but am listening now.....dead silence so far

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Same for me!

I just heard a bit about McDonalds, but it was really broken up.......now, I feel like I can't leave and I really need to run an errand because I've been on the beach all day being a bum, but am going to be glued to the d@mn scanner now ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

I can only make out about half of what they say.  But I did hear McDonalds

The static horrible, and even they are complaining about it ::MonkeyConfused::
Maybe somebody was staring at Ronald while he was at McDonalds and he called the law. ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:31:33 PM
RT @LindyLooWho2: Ron on scanner but I can not understand
2 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


(I don't have the scanner on.  Did anyone hear anything?)
No, I just now turned it on when I read that on twitter, but am listening now.....dead silence so far

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Same for me!

I just heard a bit about McDonalds, but it was really broken up.......now, I feel like I can't leave and I really need to run an errand because I've been on the beach all day being a bum, but am going to be glued to the d@mn scanner now ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

I can only make out about half of what they say.  But I did hear McDonalds

The static horrible, and even they are complaining about it ::MonkeyConfused::
Maybe somebody was staring at Ronald while he was at McDonalds and he called the law. ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

LMAO~maybe someone called him FAB ::MonkeyRoll::
::MonkeyDance::

 :smt041 :smt046


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:33:57 PM
HaleighNewz Scanner Watch - Many people hae heard the name Ronald Cummings over scanner. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 12, 2009, 07:34:04 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 07:34:46 PM
Art Harris stated on JVM that Donna Brock spoke with Putnam LE for about 2 hours today.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:35:39 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

Well, Misty was with her that long weekend before, so let's pray she has some good information......PRAY HARD ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:37:53 PM
HaleighNewz Scanner Watch - Many people hae heard the name Ronald Cummings over scanner. ::MonkeyTongue::
HaleighNewz RT @RadioNewz: Exchange earlier "this has been turned over to Major Crimes - right"
1 minute ago from HootSuite


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 07:41:04 PM
Art Harris: Drugs were an issue and no one could remember anything.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 12, 2009, 07:41:33 PM
Anyone know what Nancy's topic is tonite???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 07:43:11 PM
I thought that Ron was sick...what's he doing at McDonalds? trying to get sicker? lol!
although I do love a big mac every now and again...and the sweet tea...and the frys....ok, I like their food sometimes...grand kids make me go there... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 07:43:36 PM
HaleighNewz Scanner Watch - Many people hae heard the name Ronald Cummings over scanner. ::MonkeyTongue::
HaleighNewz RT @RadioNewz: Exchange earlier "this has been turned over to Major Crimes - right"
1 minute ago from HootSuite
HaleighNewz @RadioNewz That was heard, but we are not sure if it is in reference to RC.7 minutes ago from HootSuite in reply to RadioNewz
http://twitter.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:44:13 PM
oops hope Ronald did not go after Cobra if he read this http://www.bloggernews.net/122596

Cobra made a statement about HaLeigh not being Ronalds...have any of you heard this rumor?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

She could start the same place Ron needs to, put the past where it belongs for now, get past their own selfish grudges and STAND UP TOGETHER as parents and DEMAND, not ask, demand that PCSO investigate anyone and everyone and help find THEAIR daughter, and that is just a start. They need to grown up and stand up as parents. JMO.. Hi NRCG
Hi, but that just isn't going to happen all these months later, that should have been done in the beginning. Way to late in my book.

Agreed, but not sure I could stand together with the one person who left my kids to be watched by a dysfunctional teenager who just came off a 3 day sex/drugs binge without kicking him in what little cajones he may have..........I'm sure I'd hold him culpable of a disatrous decision that most likely cost my child their life ::MonkeyMad:: Added to that the fact that FAB was standing behind the one who got Haleigh "stole" and then watch him perpetuate her lies about what happened that night.......nah, I couldn't do it.

FYI~I have no idea when my son get's out of school, I THINK it's around 2:20 and honestly since he is in aftercare there is no need for me to know that down to the minute, if I had to go pick him up I just go get him ::MonkeyKiss::

BBL~Fooball practice ::MonkeyFootball::
I am sorry, but I would swallow my pride and bite the bullet and stand next to him if that is what it took to find my child,but that's just me.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: It has nothing to do with pride and everything to do with standing beside the one who is standing up for and beside the number 1 suspect, and IMO Ron's on that list too. Plus, he has nothing to offer so far, except I don't know Mz. Nancy I was at werk, so I can undestand her reluctance to stand beside FAB..............what could she possibly gain from him??????? ::MonkeyJnBox::

The power of TWO parents of a missing child demanding TOGETHER that every lead is followed and every person is looked at. TWO parents of a missing child demanding answers and action. The power of TWO parents of a missing child putting their differences aside and getting something done.JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 07:49:00 PM
HaleighNewz Scanner Watch - Many people hae heard the name Ronald Cummings over scanner. ::MonkeyTongue::
HaleighNewz RT @RadioNewz: Exchange earlier "this has been turned over to Major Crimes - right"
1 minute ago from HootSuite
HaleighNewz @RadioNewz That was heard, but we are not sure if it is in reference to RC.7 minutes ago from HootSuite in reply to RadioNewz
http://twitter.com/
HaleighNewz Scanner Watch - Did people hear the entire name Ronald Cummings?4 minutes ago from HootSuite


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:54:39 PM
Citizen4Justice http://bit.ly/aoiX5 RC texted MC about DB being a plant
2 minutes ago from web

snipped 
  Only last week’s road rage incident, when police pulled Misty over with driver and new best “friend” Donna Brock, blew his cover. Courtney Ballinger told the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office that a driver and passenger of a blue Dodge Caliber kept gesturing and making threats as they were driving near her on Interstate 4. No one was charged or arrested, but Brock was identified as a Miller volunteer, outted by a Florida radio station.

The information, that her pal, Donna, was in effect a spy, albeit for a good cause, reached Misty after the CBS Early Show flew the women to New York for Misty’s two part interview last week. “She was sitting there and got a text from Ronald, telling her what happened,” says Miller. “Let’s just say she wasn’t too happy ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::



SORRY~Not a shot in he77 would I stand by FAB, especially after he texted Misty about Donna being a plant........NO reason to do that if you are not involved ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 07:58:09 PM
I guess we want see any of them on "Nasty Nancy" tonite......and I still would bet a gold monkey that  Misty and Ron are together and maybe Gma Sykes said He77 to the no you want be shacking up here and calling my house the ''LOVE  Shack" ::MonkeyDevil2:: so they reached out to a friend.
mymonkey first thank-you, I appreciate what you said. I thought Granny was in Vegas, but she is probably home by now. I would like to know what friend Ron and Jr are staying with. I'm sure if they aren't already back together, Misty and Ron soon will be. And on the subject of Crystal, yes, she made a lot of mistakes, but what should she do? If she went and stole Jr, what is that going to accomplish, besides being in big trouble with the law. And if she goes and punches Misty, again, big trouble. I know her lawyer Kim doesn't represent her anymore, but what is the new lawyer doing? I don't understand why something isn't being done with Jr, but it isn't that easy to just take the boy and put him with his mom. Maybe the new lawyer is telling her and Marie to lay low, and don't comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

She could start the same place Ron needs to, put the past where it belongs for now, get past their own selfish grudges and STAND UP TOGETHER as parents and DEMAND, not ask, demand that PCSO investigate anyone and everyone and help find THEAIR daughter, and that is just a start. They need to grown up and stand up as parents. JMO.. Hi NRCG
Hi, but that just isn't going to happen all these months later, that should have been done in the beginning. Way to late in my book.

Agreed, but not sure I could stand together with the one person who left my kids to be watched by a dysfunctional teenager who just came off a 3 day sex/drugs binge without kicking him in what little cajones he may have..........I'm sure I'd hold him culpable of a disatrous decision that most likely cost my child their life ::MonkeyMad:: Added to that the fact that FAB was standing behind the one who got Haleigh "stole" and then watch him perpetuate her lies about what happened that night.......nah, I couldn't do it.

FYI~I have no idea when my son get's out of school, I THINK it's around 2:20 and honestly since he is in aftercare there is no need for me to know that down to the minute, if I had to go pick him up I just go get him ::MonkeyKiss::

BBL~Fooball practice ::MonkeyFootball::
I am sorry, but I would swallow my pride and bite the bullet and stand next to him if that is what it took to find my child,but that's just me.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: It has nothing to do with pride and everything to do with standing beside the one who is standing up for and beside the number 1 suspect, and IMO Ron's on that list too. Plus, he has nothing to offer so far, except I don't know Mz. Nancy I was at werk, so I can undestand her reluctance to stand beside FAB..............what could she possibly gain from him??????? ::MonkeyJnBox::

The power of TWO parents of a missing child demanding TOGETHER that every lead is followed and every person is looked at. TWO parents of a missing child demanding answers and action. The power of TWO parents of a missing child putting their differences aside and getting something done.JMO

Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 12, 2009, 08:01:20 PM
Citizen4Justice http://bit.ly/aoiX5 RC texted MC about DB being a plant
2 minutes ago from web

snipped 
  Only last week’s road rage incident, when police pulled Misty over with driver and new best “friend” Donna Brock, blew his cover. Courtney Ballinger told the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office that a driver and passenger of a blue Dodge Caliber kept gesturing and making threats as they were driving near her on Interstate 4. No one was charged or arrested, but Brock was identified as a Miller volunteer, outted by a Florida radio station.

The information, that her pal, Donna, was in effect a spy, albeit for a good cause, reached Misty after the CBS Early Show flew the women to New York for Misty’s two part interview last week. “She was sitting there and got a text from Ronald, telling her what happened,” says Miller. “Let’s just say she wasn’t too happy ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::



SORRY~Not a shot in he77 would I stand by FAB, especially after he texted Misty about Donna being a plant........NO reason to do that if you are not involved ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


That must have been one long, quiet plane ride home for Donna & Misty!   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:01:26 PM
Exclusive: Misty Cummings’ Undercover Mama!

By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, © artharris.com, all rights reserved

It was a unique search operation for Tim Miller, founder of Texas Equusearch, who seems to have a sixth sense – and a track record few can challenge, cracking unsolved mysteries by making people talk, finding the missing and the dead, offering expertise and equipment to police –and hope and closure to grieving families.

But in the search for Haleigh Cummings, he’s found his toughest challenge yet.

Instead of scanning ocean bottoms or busting through bedrock, he’d hoped to chisel away at the hardened heart of a tortured teenager, a child bride of 17 who police still believe holds the key to a missing five year old she reported missing eight months ago, while babysitting in Satsuma, Florida.

more...
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#more-3224


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 12, 2009, 08:02:13 PM
Hello Monkeys!
Sorry if a repeat and I do know this is Haleigh's thread not Caylee's but thought some here might be interested.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 08:03:40 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:04:11 PM
No futher activity on scanner at this time. Unsure what earlier call was about.half a minute ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:06:08 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:06:36 PM
HaleighNewz AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
4 minutes ago from HootSuite

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There, he says Ronald lead him to a closet, where he kept an assault rifle, with two clips, each holding 32 rounds, and pulled it out.

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller tells me Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head.

Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’

“I said, ‘Ronald, give me that damn gun! You don’t need that gun around here. We don’t need anymore problems,’ and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’

“And Junior is in the room, watching, and I’m thinking, ‘Here we go. He’s got a gun in the closet that doesn’t lock. It’s not in a locked gun case and there’s Junior in the house. It felt like child endangerment to me.



DCF WHERE IN THE HE77 ARE U????????????? REMOVE JR NOW ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:06:56 PM
oops hope Ronald did not go after Cobra if he read this http://www.bloggernews.net/122596

Cobra made a statement about HaLeigh not being Ronalds...have any of you heard this rumor?

Is this old rumor new rumor or just plain ole  BS?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:07:50 PM
@HaleighNewz why would TN say her bf paid 4 Universal when TM says he did?12 minutes ago from web in reply to HaleighNewz
http://twitter.com/HFTMissing


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 08:08:49 PM
Who is "HootSuite?"


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 08:08:50 PM
and i'm not even a violent person.   ::MonkeyTongue::


I'm not either.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Really.  ::MonkeyShocked::

Not even.  ::MonkeyCool::

Just like you were yesteday.  ::MonkeyTongue::

Honest.  ::MonkeyAngel::

And I believe that!   ::MonkeyWink::   ::MonkeyTongue:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:09:00 PM
oops hope Ronald did not go after Cobra if he read this http://www.bloggernews.net/122596

Cobra made a statement about HaLeigh not being Ronalds...have any of you heard this rumor?

Is this old rumor new rumor or just plain ole  BS?

Cobra was talking about it yesterday on Blogger Talk Radio.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:09:16 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:12:06 PM
oops hope Ronald did not go after Cobra if he read this http://www.bloggernews.net/122596

Cobra made a statement about HaLeigh not being Ronalds...have any of you heard this rumor?

Is this old rumor new rumor or just plain ole  BS?

and yes it is old news or chatter mymonkey. I believe that it did start with Cobra, AH back when Cobra was in Satsuma searching.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:14:24 PM
I can't understand for the life of me why Misty would not assume that Donna was a plant from the get go.

I guess as they say stupid is as stupid does.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blue Moon on October 12, 2009, 08:14:24 PM
Just saw Misty on NG on her GMA interview.  THIS GIRL IS A CON ARTIST.  And now with what Tim has told about the gun the LE needs to get both these crazies in jail now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 08:17:31 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??

It still wouldn't hurt to have a united front. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:17:53 PM
Citizen4Justice http://bit.ly/aoiX5 RC texted MC about DB being a plant
2 minutes ago from web

snipped 
  Only last week’s road rage incident, when police pulled Misty over with driver and new best “friend” Donna Brock, blew his cover. Courtney Ballinger told the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office that a driver and passenger of a blue Dodge Caliber kept gesturing and making threats as they were driving near her on Interstate 4. No one was charged or arrested, but Brock was identified as a Miller volunteer, outted by a Florida radio station.

The information, that her pal, Donna, was in effect a spy, albeit for a good cause, reached Misty after the CBS Early Show flew the women to New York for Misty’s two part interview last week. “She was sitting there and got a text from Ronald, telling her what happened,” says Miller. “Let’s just say she wasn’t too happy ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::



SORRY~Not a shot in he77 would I stand by FAB, especially after he texted Misty about Donna being a plant........NO reason to do that if you are not involved ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


That must have been one long, quiet plane ride home for Donna & Misty!   ::MonkeyRoll::
::MonkeyLaugh:: I can't even imagine.......but why would FAB want to tell her this? Why doesn't he want the truth????? There is NO excuse for that, none whatsover :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall: unless he's involved, again he is covering for her and protecting her after the "supposed" divorce filing.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:20:35 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??

It still wouldn't hurt to have a united front. JMO

I guess we will have to agree to disagree, I would never stand with a man that wants to hide the truth about what happened to my daughter..............nothing to gain from standing with a liar IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 08:21:54 PM
I can't understand for the life of me why Misty would not assume that Donna was a plant from the get go.

I guess as they say stupid is as stupid does.

"Beware of Greeks bearing gift." IE: The trojan horse.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:22:50 PM
Just saw Misty on NG on her GMA interview.  THIS GIRL IS A CON ARTIST.  And now with what Tim has told about the gun the LE needs to get both these crazies in jail now.

Agreed, and do not pass go, do not collect $200........straight to jail and throw away the key ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 08:23:25 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??

It still wouldn't hurt to have a united front. JMO


I would like to see them unite and get Misty to talk but it doesn't seem to be a priority on Ronald's end........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 12, 2009, 08:23:26 PM
HaleighNewz AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
4 minutes ago from HootSuite

snipped

There, he says Ronald lead him to a closet, where he kept an assault rifle, with two clips, each holding 32 rounds, and pulled it out.

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller tells me Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head.

Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’

“I said, ‘Ronald, give me that damn gun! You don’t need that gun around here. We don’t need anymore problems,’ and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’

“And Junior is in the room, watching, and I’m thinking, ‘Here we go. He’s got a gun in the closet that doesn’t lock. It’s not in a locked gun case and there’s Junior in the house. It felt like child endangerment to me.



DCF WHERE IN THE HE77 ARE U????????????? REMOVE JR NOW ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


[/quote     and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’ ....one more time??? ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 08:23:33 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??

It still wouldn't hurt to have a united front. JMO

I guess we will have to agree to disagree, I would never stand with a man that wants to hide the truth about what happened to my daughter..............nothing to gain from standing with a liar IMO.

I would stand next to the devil himself if it brought my daughter home, and then I would kick his azz all over Putnam County, but that's just me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 08:24:20 PM
Citizen4Justice http://bit.ly/aoiX5 RC texted MC about DB being a plant
2 minutes ago from web

snipped 
  Only last week’s road rage incident, when police pulled Misty over with driver and new best “friend” Donna Brock, blew his cover. Courtney Ballinger told the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office that a driver and passenger of a blue Dodge Caliber kept gesturing and making threats as they were driving near her on Interstate 4. No one was charged or arrested, but Brock was identified as a Miller volunteer, outted by a Florida radio station.

The information, that her pal, Donna, was in effect a spy, albeit for a good cause, reached Misty after the CBS Early Show flew the women to New York for Misty’s two part interview last week. “She was sitting there and got a text from Ronald, telling her what happened,” says Miller. “Let’s just say she wasn’t too happy ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::



SORRY~Not a shot in he77 would I stand by FAB, especially after he texted Misty about Donna being a plant........NO reason to do that if you are not involved ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
I agree, now why would Ron do that for  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 08:24:41 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??
    * Palatka Daily News > Archives > News > Croslin tells cops: No one ...
      Sep 22, 2009 ... The sheriff's office also has said Ronald Cummings and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, have been cleared of suspicion in connection ...
      www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/09/22/news/news01.txt




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:24:43 PM
oops hope Ronald did not go after Cobra if he read this http://www.bloggernews.net/122596

Cobra made a statement about HaLeigh not being Ronalds...have any of you heard this rumor?

Is this old rumor new rumor or just plain ole  BS?

and yes it is old news or chatter mymonkey. I believe that it did start with Cobra, AH back when Cobra was in Satsuma searching.

TY Heart


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 08:26:17 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??

It still wouldn't hurt to have a united front. JMO

I guess we will have to agree to disagree, I would never stand with a man that wants to hide the truth about what happened to my daughter..............nothing to gain from standing with a liar IMO.

I would stand next to the devil himself if it brought my daughter home, and then I would kick his azz all over Putnam County, but that's just me.

I would too. That was the point I was trying to make. I would put my own feelings aside and do what ever I had to in order to find my child. But, thats just me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 08:27:34 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:28:15 PM
HaleighNewz AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
4 minutes ago from HootSuite

snipped

There, he says Ronald lead him to a closet, where he kept an assault rifle, with two clips, each holding 32 rounds, and pulled it out.

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller tells me Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head.

Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’

“I said, ‘Ronald, give me that damn gun! You don’t need that gun around here. We don’t need anymore problems,’ and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’

“And Junior is in the room, watching, and I’m thinking, ‘Here we go. He’s got a gun in the closet that doesn’t lock. It’s not in a locked gun case and there’s Junior in the house. It felt like child endangerment to me.



DCF WHERE IN THE HE77 ARE U????????????? REMOVE JR NOW ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


[/quote     and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’ ....one more time??? ::MonkeyShocked::

Scary isn't it????? Man, I am pizzed about this info. Ron should be Baker acted before he does something like "taking others out", and fast ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 08:28:25 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.
Or Crystal's or Grammas on both sides.. FTLOG, they need to stop being selfish and put their differences and feelings aside and come together to find her... JMO

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??

It still wouldn't hurt to have a united front. JMO


I would like to see them unite and get Misty to talk but it doesn't seem to be a priority on Ronald's end........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:29:42 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

Me either, now I know what TM called them d@mn hillbilllies and said they are a disgrace hanging out with thugs and druggies  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 08:30:03 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??

It still wouldn't hurt to have a united front. JMO


I would like to see them unite and get Misty to talk but it doesn't seem to be a priority on Ronald's end........

OOps,messed this one up...
Or Crystal's or Grammas on both sides.. FTLOG, they need to stop being selfish and put their differences and feelings aside and come together to find her... JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 12, 2009, 08:31:14 PM
Forgot the link:


http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/misty-cummings-what-really-happened/

Thanks OS~I am going to post the entire article for those who can't see the link.............


« MISTY CUMMINGS EXCLUSIVE: ”I feel like this has all been a game, and I have been played.”MISTY CUMMINGS; WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
By Steph
I’m not even going to address the accusations that have been made over the last few days. They are truly so outlandish that they don’t dignify a response. What I am going to do, is what I was planning on doing all along, is tell exactly what has been going on behind the scenes for the last week in the Haleigh Cummings investigation. However, we all know now that the plan got foiled by a little road rage incident, that has damaged this investigation irreparably.

Back on Sept 20th, Tim Miller asked me to come to Orlando to film Misty Cummings’ hypnosis and voice analysis that she had requested to have done. Although I was not paid, I was permitted to report (as I did on this blog) my observations of the tapings. Tim also flew in TJ Ward, the Voice analysis expert and he needed someone to pick TJ up at the airport. Because Texas Equusearch (TE) operates with very little budget, they rely on volunteers. Tim called his TE member closest to the airport and asked her to pick up TJ…that member was Donna Brock. Donna arrived into Satsuma at Ronald’s aunts’ house (where the hypnosis and voice analysis was being conducted) with TJ. This is the first time I had ever met her. She had to wait with TJ until he was done with his test to return him to the Orlando Airport (he’s from Georgia). It was a long day for all involved, and there was a lot of waiting around. Misty took a liking to Donna as they chatted causally, we got set up for the interviews. The two even slipped out to pick up food for everyone (Ronald, Teresa, Ronalds’ aunt, Jr. and a few other family members were all there)

The week before this, Tim Miller had an intimate conversation with Ronald Cummings in the bedroom he shared with Misty in his grandmothers’ trailer just down the road. They talked in detail about their thoughts of Misty’s involvement in the case. Tim asked Ronald why he married Misty. Ronald responded “I have to keep her close till I find out what happened to Haleigh”. It’s what happened next that frightened Miller. Ronald pulled a gun out of the closet, an assault rifle with 2 clips, each clip holding 32 bullets. Ronald looked at Miller and said “When I find out where Haleigh’s at, I will blow the teeth out of the back of her head, and then I’ll do this…” He then got on his knees, put the butt of the rifle on of the gun on the floor and the leaned over and put the barrel in his mouth. There was no “IF” she had anything to do with it, and Miller knew that Ronald was serious. That he would kill Misty and then take his own life. It was at that point he knew they had to get Misty out of there, or she would end up dead.

After the law enforcement received copies of the polygraph, the voice analysis and hypnosis, I wrote about it on my blog and the media picked up the story and it blew up (I cleared with Miller and LE that it was ok to release the tapes to the media). When the story blew up, so did tempers in Satsuma and Miller knew he had to get Misty out of there immediately. Donna seemed liked the logical, choice; Misty trusted her, she is a mother and a grandmother, and most importantly she lived close enough and was willing to take Misty in. “We may have to save Misty’s life” Miller told Donna. And in an instant, Donna was off to get Misty and bring her to safety in Orlando.

Miller knew in the back of his mind Donna now has an opportunity to get close to Misty to get more info to lead to Haleigh. So did law enforcement. Miller also knew she wasn’t an expert, just one of his volunteers going above and beyond her call of duty, and he worried about that. Law enforcement was well aware of exactly where Misty was and what was going on at all times. This is what they wanted, Misty away from Satsuma, the trailer park, her family Ronald’s’ family, and most importantly away from Ronald.
In Mark Fuhrman’s new book “The Murder Business” he writes in detail about the Melinda Duckett case, the young Florida mother of Trenton Duckett, who went missing in 2006. After appearing on Nancy Grace’s show, Melinda committed suicide.

“With Melinda Ducketts’ suicide, investigators lost their best chance of finding Trenton” says Fuhrman. “We have to avoid that same situation at any cost” says Tim Miller “If anything tragic happens to Misty now, any knowledge of what happened to Haleigh dies too”. “You can’t put a price tag on finding a child.”   ::MonkeyAngel::

Over the next month Misty and Donna grew close. Miller wired money into Donnas’ account on several occasions to cover Misty’s living expenses, right up until 4 days ago, when he wired her 300.00 dollars, all for the purpose of keeping her safe, keeping her away from Satsuma and keeping her talking.

“Donna made incredible sacrifices. She put her life on hold, stopped spending time with her own family, including her daughter and new born grand baby” said Miller. ‘This has been very stressful for her” Tim Miller and Donna both made periodic reports to Law Enforcement on Misty’s whereabouts and activities.

As any good journalist should, I reached out to Donna to try and get comments and information on Misty. Donna and Misty were tight lipped at first, but they read my blog nightly, and as they watched the media bashing Misty on TV every night, they grew to trust me. When the divorce news broke, Misty wanted to respond to what was being said. So she granted me an interview on the phone and I posted it on the blog.

That night a someone from CBS “The Early Show” read my blog and emailed me immediately to see if I could get them an interview with Misty. I freelance for CBS so when called so they called; I wanted to help them out. I knew I didn’t have the resources to fly to Orlando and conduct the interview myself, just to post it on my blog. I told Misty of CBS’s interview request and she agreed to it. CBS arranged to fly her up, not first class as rumored last night on Nancy Grace, but in coach. It is Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) in the media to fly a guest in and put them in a hotel to tape an interview. Donna came along because Misty is a minor and she needed to be accompanied by an adult. I notified law enforcement that she was coming to NY to appear on “The Early Show and I gave them her outgoing and return flight and hotel info so they knew where she was. Law Enforcement requested that we don’t change her return ticket to any other state than Florida.

Then the Road rage incident happened. Donna and Misty called me right after it happened because we had been in constant contact. A woman cut them off on the road and they (both) gave her the finger. A stupid decision on both their parts, bad judgment whatever you want to call it, in that second everything changed. Up until that point Donna and Misty had remained quiet, flying under the radar, so to speak, and Misty trusted Donna. Apparently the woman who cut them off recognized Misty and called police claiming they pointed a gun. Next thing Donna and Misty are pulled over and find themselves face down on the ground with guns in their backs. The situation quickly diffused when the police realized the report was false. The media went nuts, Donnas’ cover was blown, the woman turned up on Nancy Grace. What an opportunist, she should be ashamed of herself for lying to police. Donna and Misty realize they were wrong and it was foolish. Then the armchairs investigators tried to connect dots that weren’t connectable. And none of this had anything to do with finding Haleigh. Why would Nancy Grace waste an hour on this? I decided not to even right a post about it. It was irrelevant. But now Misty learned that Donna was not her friend.

The CBS interview was important because the more people talk, the more they reveal. Every time Misty tells the same story, police can look for inconsistencies. Something different, perhaps a clue. That’s why it was so important to get Misty to tell “her side of the story” And perhaps from what I hear, it may her last interview (part 2 will air on CBS “Early Show on Monday) After the interview aired, Misty’s attorney dropped her as a client.

Tonight as I write this, Donna has dropped Misty off in Satsuma. Donna will meet again with law enforcement on Monday to tell her the last of what she has learned. Donna has been very tight lipped about her conversations with Misty, at least with me. At least for now. The next few days should be interesting, now that misty is back in the lions den. I will write more about my observations and conversations I had with Misty while in NY with her.

I asked Tim Miller if his organization will continue to look for Haleigh “I’m not done with this case; I’m done with these people. But any resources I have will be available to help find Haleigh. ‘I will continue any efforts I can to end the search for Haleigh Cummings.”

I hope this begins to clear up a few things and connect the dots for everyone that has been following this case. There is alot more coming. Please stay tuned


 ::MonkeyEek::

I can only pray that Donna does have some good info and I posted the other night that after Tim heard what RC had stated about killing Misty himself and taking out a few others that I thought he'd go the extra mile and try to protect her...........BUT, now she's back in Sh!tsuma ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

so maybe LE is acting on what miller said, i thought that would be a, he said, he said,
type of thing,no witness
hi monkeys finaly caught up,
a lot has happened in 2 days, but that seems to be the
way with these folks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:31:21 PM
Citizen4Justice http://bit.ly/aoiX5 RC texted MC about DB being a plant
2 minutes ago from web

snipped 
  Only last week’s road rage incident, when police pulled Misty over with driver and new best “friend” Donna Brock, blew his cover. Courtney Ballinger told the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office that a driver and passenger of a blue Dodge Caliber kept gesturing and making threats as they were driving near her on Interstate 4. No one was charged or arrested, but Brock was identified as a Miller volunteer, outted by a Florida radio station.

The information, that her pal, Donna, was in effect a spy, albeit for a good cause, reached Misty after the CBS Early Show flew the women to New York for Misty’s two part interview last week. “She was sitting there and got a text from Ronald, telling her what happened,” says Miller. “Let’s just say she wasn’t too happy ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::



SORRY~Not a shot in he77 would I stand by FAB, especially after he texted Misty about Donna being a plant........NO reason to do that if you are not involved ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
I agree, now why would Ron do that for  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyDevil2:: ::MonkeyDevil2:: HMMM, heads are spinning on that one !!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 08:31:33 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

Me either, now I know what TM called them d@mn hillbilllies and said they are a disgrace hanging out with thugs and druggies  ::MonkeyKiss::
" No, I’ll need this one more time."  I would hate to even ask why Ron needed the rifle the other time  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:31:53 PM
In an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth Monday, Miller confirmed he secretly funded Misty Cummings’ mystery road trip to Daytona, Cocoa Beach, and Orlando, including a visit to Universal, after after she flunked a lie detector — because he feared her life was in danger. “If she died, we’d never find Haleigh,” he said.

“I was afraid Ronald Cummings might carry out his threat to ‘blow her teeth through the back of her head’ if it turned out she had anything to do with his missing daughter, then kill himself,” Miller told The Bald Truth.

“Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ with the barrel in his mouth?

“We still don’t’ believe she’s giving us straight information,” a source close to the case tells me. “She keeps telling us the same thing over and over again, huh? and we have information that shows it’s not true…At some point, she has to make a decision if she wants to stay the course, or is she going to tell us.

“We’ve told her, ‘We are going forward with the case, no matter what your commitment is, and the moment we can prove you had something to do with the disappearance of Haleigh, we will proceed with criminal charges against you.’”


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 12, 2009, 08:32:06 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 08:32:44 PM
They are incapable of putting their differences aside, if they were they would have by now, imo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:33:22 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 08:33:28 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::
But the judge ruled that way, to have Ron have custody.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 08:33:47 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

Me either, now I know what TM called them d@mn hillbilllies and said they are a disgrace hanging out with thugs and druggies  ::MonkeyKiss::
" No, I’ll need this one more time."  I would hate to even ask why Ron needed the rifle the other time  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

And why didn't Tim Miller tell the LE, and if he did, why wasn't he Baker Acted right away and the gun taken away?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on October 12, 2009, 08:34:02 PM
Hello Monkeys!
Sorry if a repeat and I do know this is Haleigh's thread not Caylee's but thought some here might be interested.

Orlando Private Investigations
"Voices for Justice: Casey Anthony, Reports & Reflections." The guest panel will include Dr. Dale Archer, Mark Williams, Levi Page, Rozzie Franco, James Copenhaver, and other reporters and special guests.
We will explore the physical, emotional, and financial aspects that this case has taken the past year with family, media, and in the public.
Time is 6-7pm (PST) / 9-10pm (EST). Have a question for our panel, call in during the show (347) 838-8622.Read More
Casey Anthony:a panel reports and reflects
on Voices for Justice
Location:www.blogtalkradio.com/helpingheroes
Time:6:00PM Thursday, October 15th

Oh Lord.  This is Ms Bart as in Michelle Bart.  The one time spokesperson/myspace guardian/friend and supporter of all things Ant.  Her first radio show discussing the forensics of the remains was a joke.  She was pushing that the ME could not determine the sex of the remains so how could they say it was Caylee.  Pro Anthony all the way and a waste of internet bandwidth IMO. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 08:34:13 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.
I don't even want to think what Jr has already heard and seen  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 12, 2009, 08:35:50 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::
But the judge ruled that way, to have Ron have custody.

Because the children were already living with Ron according to the court papers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:38:28 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.
I don't even want to think what Jr has already heard and seen  ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyWaa::

Me too, he's definitely in need of therapy, maybe acts of FAB's like this one are the reason he fought getting jr into treatment.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:38:51 PM
I think I will wait (no matter how long it takes, which could be forever) to hear from LE. It appears that everyone that has got involved in this case is cyaing big time and all over the place.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:41:11 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

Me either, now I know what TM called them d@mn hillbilllies and said they are a disgrace hanging out with thugs and druggies  ::MonkeyKiss::
" No, I’ll need this one more time."  I would hate to even ask why Ron needed the rifle the other time  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

And why didn't Tim Miller tell the LE, and if he did, why wasn't he Baker Acted right away and the gun taken away?

Looks like he did, the other two questions I am clueless on.........both should have been done IMO ::MonkeyConfused::


Miller said he relayed the gun incident to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, as Ronald and Misty appeared to be butting heads, with numerous family fights reported on this site, and documented by police. Ronald Cummings lawyer could not be reached for comment, nor did Donna Brock return our calls.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:42:37 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.
I don't even want to think what Jr has already heard and seen  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Also in the Art Harris article Tim said they were in the bedroom where Ron, Misty and Jr. slept.....I hope Ronald slept with Jr. and put Misty on a cot.....I know Jr. is scared and is afraid to sleep alone....but no way in he77 would he sleep in the bed with the last person that saw my missing daughter.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 08:42:49 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??

It still wouldn't hurt to have a united front. JMO


I would like to see them unite and get Misty to talk but it doesn't seem to be a priority on Ronald's end........

OOps,messed this one up...
Or Crystal's or Grammas on both sides.. FTLOG, they need to stop being selfish and put their differences and feelings aside and come together to find her... JMO



I'm thinking that Crystal just doesn't seem to know how to get involved in an adult way concerning her children. Maybe the same holds true for Ron but I really have doubts about his intentions in all this. If I were Haleigh's Mom I would know everything about the time leading up to Haleigh"s disappearance and everything that went on with all concerned. LE would have to lock me up to keep me from getting knee deep into the investigation. But then, I never would have lost custody of my children to begin with. Maybe she's grown up some by now, but she just doesn't seem to know how to assert herself. All these people just seem so pathetic.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 08:43:47 PM
Hello Monkeys!
Sorry if a repeat and I do know this is Haleigh's thread not Caylee's but thought some here might be interested.

Orlando Private Investigations
"Voices for Justice: Casey Anthony, Reports & Reflections." The guest panel will include Dr. Dale Archer, Mark Williams, Levi Page, Rozzie Franco, James Copenhaver, and other reporters and special guests.
We will explore the physical, emotional, and financial aspects that this case has taken the past year with family, media, and in the public.
Time is 6-7pm (PST) / 9-10pm (EST). Have a question for our panel, call in during the show (347) 838-8622.Read More
Casey Anthony:a panel reports and reflects
on Voices for Justice
Location:www.blogtalkradio.com/helpingheroes
Time:6:00PM Thursday, October 15th

Oh Lord.  This is Ms Bart as in Michelle Bart.  The one time spokesperson/myspace guardian/friend and supporter of all things Ant.  Her first radio show discussing the forensics of the remains was a joke.  She was pushing that the ME could not determine the sex of the remains so how could they say it was Caylee.  Pro Anthony all the way and a waste of internet bandwidth IMO. 

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/th06SmileyFuriousComputer.gif)
Does this bottom dweller ever go away!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 08:43:53 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::

good good point!!!! and moved out of town yet....hmmmm....protect yourself Crystal...the kids will be ok... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 08:46:37 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??

It still wouldn't hurt to have a united front. JMO


I would like to see them unite and get Misty to talk but it doesn't seem to be a priority on Ronald's end........

OOps,messed this one up...
Or Crystal's or Grammas on both sides.. FTLOG, they need to stop being selfish and put their differences and feelings aside and come together to find her... JMO



I'm thinking that Crystal just doesn't seem to know how to get involved in an adult way concerning her children. Maybe the same holds true for Ron but I really have doubts about his intentions in all this. If I were Haleigh's Mom I would know everything about the time leading up to Haleigh"s disappearance and everything that went on with all concerned. LE would have to lock me up to keep me from getting knee deep into the investigation. But then, I never would have lost custody of my children to begin with. Maybe she's grown up some by now, but she just doesn't seem to know how to assert herself. All these people just seem so pathetic.......

agreed!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:47:01 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.
I don't even want to think what Jr has already heard and seen  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Also in the Art Harris article Tim said they were in the bedroom where Ron, Misty and Jr. slept.....I hope Ronald slept with Jr. and put Misty on a cot.....I know Jr. is scared and is afraid to sleep alone....but no way in he77 would he sleep in the bed with the last person that saw my missing daughter.
::MonkeyEek::

Amen ....never, unless he was involved himself in some way.

Did Shoemaker state that Ronald drove a forklift tonight????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 12, 2009, 08:47:41 PM
me too Searching...
NO more excuses Crystal!! no more excuses Ron! no more excuses grand parents who say they love Haleigh so much! prove it!

by the way, when is the Haleighbug center set to reopen at Crystal's house? see, this is what I am talking about...she was supposed to open it up as soon as she cleaned out the guest house...Does she not care enough to get herself out there and get it cleaned up and the Haleighbug center open again? I thought that it was for tips and stuff like that? otherwise, just install another phone line in the home and call it the Haleighbug Center...
Good question about the HBCenter. When  I read this I thought WTH, when did it open???
Sam Watkins

10/17/2009 5:00 PM at Benefit/Concert for Missing Child Haleigh Cummings!
The OO Ranch 1001 FM 969, Bastrop, Texas 78602
Cost: 10.00

Sam Watkins and Fate Train will be performing songs from Sam’s current CD "Has Anybody Seen Me?" and the new CD "A New Way To Fly"... Hope you can make it and God Bless! - Sam Watkins Description You are cordially invited to attend a Benefit/Concert 20 miles outside of Austin for missing child Haleigh Cummings. Featuring: Sam Watkins and Fate Train, other bands, fingerprinting and ID’s for children, food and drinks, and many more activities. Money raised will benefit the Haleigh Bug Foundation that will aide in the search of Haleigh and help raise the reward money. To purchase your ticket go to: http://bit.ly/5jIDE
http://music.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=music.showDetails&friendid=426029497&Band_Show_ID=31692



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 12, 2009, 08:49:31 PM
So Ron's lawyer stated on NG tonite that Ron was at work all night but not on the crane all night that he did several things that night that required leaving the crane and going to other areas of the place....I think that Ron was not there all night...you know even if they did have to clock in by fingerprints....you know people always seem to find a way around the law if they want to....maybe they made a thumprint copy to scan in and out for each other like when you put your thumbprint on a check at the bank? I know that sounds crazy but who would have thought that people would come up with a wizzinator to pass drug tests with? For anyone out there who does not know what those are ...it is a fake rubberlike penis that holds pee purchased from someone who does not do drugs so that the person doing drugs on probation can pee in the cup and pass  JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:50:17 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.
I don't even want to think what Jr has already heard and seen  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Also in the Art Harris article Tim said they were in the bedroom where Ron, Misty and Jr. slept.....I hope Ronald slept with Jr. and put Misty on a cot.....I know Jr. is scared and is afraid to sleep alone....but no way in he77 would he sleep in the bed with the last person that saw my missing daughter.
::MonkeyEek::

Amen ....never, unless he was involved himself in some way.

Did Shoemaker state that Ronald drove a forklift tonight????

He said Ronald operated a crane.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 08:51:13 PM
MYView...my point...it is not open any longer...was open in Satsuma ...Crystal was moving it to Baker County....months ago...has yet to reopen as the Haleighbug Center if I am right...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 08:51:36 PM

Ron sent a text message to Misty cautioning her that Donna is a plant!?  Why would Ron feel it necessary to warn her?
Something stinks!  jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:53:33 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.
I don't even want to think what Jr has already heard and seen  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Also in the Art Harris article Tim said they were in the bedroom where Ron, Misty and Jr. slept.....I hope Ronald slept with Jr. and put Misty on a cot.....I know Jr. is scared and is afraid to sleep alone....but no way in he77 would he sleep in the bed with the last person that saw my missing daughter.

Theres a lot of (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/forum/smileyvault-cya.gif) going on. Donna has been outed and  it hit the media, so theres a bunch of (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/forum/smileyvault-cya.gif) and distraction going on.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 12, 2009, 08:53:35 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::

good good point!!!! and moved out of town yet....hmmmm....protect yourself Crystal...the kids will be ok... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Even animals try to protect their young.  If Ron wasn't fit for Crystal to live with,  why on earth would she leave
her children with him?  She could have taken her children and gone to a homeless shelter.
Nothing effects children like being abandoned by their mother. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 08:55:04 PM

Ron sent a text message to Misty cautioning her that Donna is a plant!?  Why would Ron feel it necessary to warn her?
Something stinks!  jmo
It doesn't just stink can, it wreaks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:55:06 PM

Ron sent a text message to Misty cautioning her that Donna is a plant!?  Why would Ron feel it necessary to warn her?
Something stinks!  jmo
Because he controls Misty's every move....and the divorce want change that he will have her under his thumb for the rest of her life.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 08:56:59 PM
For little Butterbean to witness such a graphic display of mock violence, as described by Tim Miller is an atrocity! 
Butterbean must be so fearful..
Why can't/won't LE do something about this? 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:57:18 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.
I don't even want to think what Jr has already heard and seen  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Also in the Art Harris article Tim said they were in the bedroom where Ron, Misty and Jr. slept.....I hope Ronald slept with Jr. and put Misty on a cot.....I know Jr. is scared and is afraid to sleep alone....but no way in he77 would he sleep in the bed with the last person that saw my missing daughter.
::MonkeyEek::

Amen ....never, unless he was involved himself in some way.

Did Shoemaker state that Ronald drove a forklift tonight????

He said Ronald operated a crane.

I heard that too, but thought he elaborated tonight as he did the other night when he stated he did "many other jobs", so I'm curious if one was the forklift ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 08:57:30 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::

good good point!!!! and moved out of town yet....hmmmm....protect yourself Crystal...the kids will be ok... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Even animals try to protect their young.  If Ron wasn't fit for Crystal to live with,  why on earth would she leave
her children with him?  She could have taken her children and gone to a homeless shelter.
Nothing effects children like being abandoned by their mother. JMO

Absolutely, there is enough blame to go around on the whole bunch. In the meantime, there is a little girl out there somewhere, in what shape we do not know.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 08:58:14 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::

good good point!!!! and moved out of town yet....hmmmm....protect yourself Crystal...the kids will be ok... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Even animals try to protect their young.  If Ron wasn't fit for Crystal to live with,  why on earth would she leave
her children with him?  She could have taken her children and gone to a homeless shelter.
Nothing effects children like being abandoned by their mother. JMO

I thought Ronald was taking the kids on a vacation to Mexico and never returned them.
Crystal agreed to let him take the to Mexico....which they never made it to because Ronald had to stop in Texas and work because he was broke....go figure Ronald takes a vacation when he is broke.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 08:58:47 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::

good good point!!!! and moved out of town yet....hmmmm....protect yourself Crystal...the kids will be ok... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Even animals try to protect their young.  If Ron wasn't fit for Crystal to live with,  why on earth would she leave
her children with him?  She could have taken her children and gone to a homeless shelter.
Nothing effects children like being abandoned by their mother. JMO

and from what we have read, did not pay her child support, did not call the kids in between her every other weekend etc. etc...did not know when her kid got out of school, before or after she went missing... did not feel like getting out of bed to take Haleigh to necessary doctor appointments...her own words....I can't defend this woman as a mother..can't defend any of them...they all make me sick, every last one of them...none of them have clean hands...they all failed Haleigh imo...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 12, 2009, 08:59:36 PM

Ron sent a text message to Misty cautioning her that Donna is a plant!?  Why would Ron feel it necessary to warn her?
Something stinks!  jmo
It doesn't just stink can, it wreaks!

it wreaks bacause of all their secrects, that are falling out of that stinky closet,since
they let a child go missing


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 09:01:15 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.
I don't even want to think what Jr has already heard and seen  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Also in the Art Harris article Tim said they were in the bedroom where Ron, Misty and Jr. slept.....I hope Ronald slept with Jr. and put Misty on a cot.....I know Jr. is scared and is afraid to sleep alone....but no way in he77 would he sleep in the bed with the last person that saw my missing daughter.
::MonkeyEek::

Amen ....never, unless he was involved himself in some way.

Did Shoemaker state that Ronald drove a forklift tonight????

He said Ronald operated a crane.

I heard that too, but thought he elaborated tonight as he did the other night when he stated he did "many other jobs", so I'm curious if one was the forklift ::MonkeyConfused::

I do think I heard him say he moved material around...which I would think require a forklift....why what are you thinking? I can tell you feel something!!!!! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 09:01:32 PM

Ron sent a text message to Misty cautioning her that Donna is a plant!?  Why would Ron feel it necessary to warn her?
Something stinks!  jmo

It's been stinking, now it's nothing but rotten garbage.........He has her under his control, maybe he uses the gun as a scare tactic, but he needs to be Baker Acted ASAP and that assault rifle needs to be confiscated ASAP ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 09:04:41 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::

good good point!!!! and moved out of town yet....hmmmm....protect yourself Crystal...the kids will be ok... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Even animals try to protect their young.  If Ron wasn't fit for Crystal to live with,  why on earth would she leave
her children with him?  She could have taken her children and gone to a homeless shelter.
Nothing effects children like being abandoned by their mother. JMO

I thought Ronald was taking the kids on a vacation to Mexico and never returned them.
Crystal agreed to let him take the to Mexico....which they never made it to because Ronald had to stop in Texas and work because he was broke....go figure Ronald takes a vacation when he is broke.

That IS correct except he was supposed to be working too, he never returned them and then filed for custody.............also, how do you work when you have 2 small children with you, unless they are great cover for drug smuggling?????

Also, in the latest court doc about custody she had to have written in their the very fact that she could have phone contact with them every night.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 12, 2009, 09:06:13 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::

good good point!!!! and moved out of town yet....hmmmm....protect yourself Crystal...the kids will be ok... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Even animals try to protect their young.  If Ron wasn't fit for Crystal to live with,  why on earth would she leave
her children with him?  She could have taken her children and gone to a homeless shelter.
Nothing effects children like being abandoned by their mother. JMO

and from what we have read, did not pay her child support, did not call the kids in between her every other weekend etc. etc...did not know when her kid got out of school, before or after she went missing... did not feel like getting out of bed to take Haleigh to necessary doctor appointments...her own words....I can't defend this woman as a mother..can't defend any of them...they all make me sick, every last one of them...none of them have clean hands...they all failed Haleigh imo...

At this point there are no heros in this sad tale.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 12, 2009, 09:06:43 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:07:26 PM

Ron sent a text message to Misty cautioning her that Donna is a plant!?  Why would Ron feel it necessary to warn her?
Something stinks!  jmo
Because he controls Misty's every move....and the divorce want change that he will have her under his thumb for the rest of her life.

Liars speak out of both sides of their mouth.  He knows LE thinks Misty has withheld information...yet he tips Misty off when there might be a slight chance that she will reveal something to Donna.  WHY?!  Is he hiding something...are THEY hiding something?! 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 12, 2009, 09:10:10 PM
Is it true that Courtney Ballenger, is related to Steph Watt?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 09:10:19 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.
I don't even want to think what Jr has already heard and seen  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Also in the Art Harris article Tim said they were in the bedroom where Ron, Misty and Jr. slept.....I hope Ronald slept with Jr. and put Misty on a cot.....I know Jr. is scared and is afraid to sleep alone....but no way in he77 would he sleep in the bed with the last person that saw my missing daughter.
::MonkeyEek::

Amen ....never, unless he was involved himself in some way.

Did Shoemaker state that Ronald drove a forklift tonight????

He said Ronald operated a crane.

I heard that too, but thought he elaborated tonight as he did the other night when he stated he did "many other jobs", so I'm curious if one was the forklift ::MonkeyConfused::

I do think I heard him say he moved material around...which I would think require a forklift....why what are you thinking? I can tell you feel something!!!!! ::MonkeyKiss::

Been thing about what a local was saying and how much sense it made, he stated early on that he was driving a forklift at PDM.....I'll have to go find it, BRB


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:11:02 PM

Ron sent a text message to Misty cautioning her that Donna is a plant!?  Why would Ron feel it necessary to warn her?
Something stinks!  jmo

It's been stinking, now it's nothing but rotten garbage.........He has her under his control, maybe he uses the gun as a scare tactic, but he needs to be Baker Acted ASAP and that assault rifle needs to be confiscated ASAP ::MonkeyTongue::

Absolutely and Amen.

Butterbean must be protected - it might be to late for little Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 09:13:08 PM
AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Ron is one sick individual, if I was Crystal I wouldn't go near him.

But......she went off and left her children with him? ::MonkeyConfused::

good good point!!!! and moved out of town yet....hmmmm....protect yourself Crystal...the kids will be ok... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Even animals try to protect their young.  If Ron wasn't fit for Crystal to live with,  why on earth would she leave
her children with him?  She could have taken her children and gone to a homeless shelter.
Nothing effects children like being abandoned by their mother. JMO

I thought Ronald was taking the kids on a vacation to Mexico and never returned them.
Crystal agreed to let him take the to Mexico....which they never made it to because Ronald had to stop in Texas and work because he was broke....go figure Ronald takes a vacation when he is broke.

That IS correct except he was supposed to be working too, he never returned them and then filed for custody.............also, how do you work when you have 2 small children with you, unless they are great cover for drug smuggling?????

Also, in the latest court doc about custody she had to have written in their the very fact that she could have phone contact with them every night.

Bingo....when I read that Mexico story I said he was smuggling drugs....go to Mexico buy em cheap off the shelf....now he also was busted many times with  no time served.I feel the whole town is rat infested and covering up. Where is the F.B. I.  or some LE with some brains and ba.ls


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:15:38 PM

Ron sent a text message to Misty cautioning her that Donna is a plant!?  Why would Ron feel it necessary to warn her?
Something stinks!  jmo
It doesn't just stink can, it wreaks!


it wreaks bacause of all their secrects, that are falling out of that stinky closet,since
they let a child go missing

God help the children is all I can say!   ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 09:18:48 PM
I really think Ronald has put so much fear in Jr. he will never tell what he saw that night...
if RC would tell Tim in front of Jr. what he would do, what does Ronald say to Jr. when they are alone?

I can not believe in the United States that the system is failing Jr.

I pray God keeps him safe.
I don't even want to think what Jr has already heard and seen  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Also in the Art Harris article Tim said they were in the bedroom where Ron, Misty and Jr. slept.....I hope Ronald slept with Jr. and put Misty on a cot.....I know Jr. is scared and is afraid to sleep alone....but no way in he77 would he sleep in the bed with the last person that saw my missing daughter.
::MonkeyEek::

Amen ....never, unless he was involved himself in some way.

Did Shoemaker state that Ronald drove a forklift tonight????

He said Ronald operated a crane.

I heard that too, but thought he elaborated tonight as he did the other night when he stated he did "many other jobs", so I'm curious if one was the forklift ::MonkeyConfused::

I do think I heard him say he moved material around...which I would think require a forklift....why what are you thinking? I can tell you feel something!!!!! ::MonkeyKiss::

Ronald for the most part operated a forklift. Rarely on a yard crane.  about 1 hour ago
http://twitter.com/SatsumaLegacy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 12, 2009, 09:20:53 PM

Ron sent a text message to Misty cautioning her that Donna is a plant!?  Why would Ron feel it necessary to warn her?
Something stinks!  jmo
It doesn't just stink can, it wreaks!

ITA.... ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 09:21:37 PM
I think I will wait until I hear some actual facts from law enforcement. seems the reporters that have latched on have been shown to be errrr embellishing on the information to sensationalize and gain readers so, I think that it is safer to wait until I hear it from the horses mouth.
I think that all involved have failed this child in the worst way and none of them deserve a pass. That is my opinion and I will stand by that because I am thinking of Haleigh and on her side. I am not friends with either side of the family and have never spoken to them,nor do I want to. I would not associate myself with either side. I am on Haleigh's side and looking at this in an objective manner. Both sides have said and done things to set my hinky meter off. I feel for the children involved. What I think we see here is parents that are parenting as they were taught by their own parents and to me,that is sad,what awful lives they must have had growing up. What a pity that this cycle will continue. Now, I must go for a bit, I have to set up sleeping areas for a mom and baby who were kicked out by the baby's father and have no where else to go. I will check back if I have time. Take care all.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:22:10 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 09:25:17 PM
I think I will wait until I hear some actual facts from law enforcement. seems the reporters that have latched on have been shown to be errrr embellishing on the information to sensationalize and gain readers so, I think that it is safer to wait until I hear it from the horses mouth.
I think that all involved have failed this child in the worst way and none of them deserve a pass. That is my opinion and I will stand by that because I am thinking of Haleigh and on her side. I am not friends with either side of the family and have never spoken to them,nor do I want to. I would not associate myself with either side. I am on Haleigh's side and looking at this in an objective manner. Both sides have said and done things to set my hinky meter off. I feel for the children involved. What I think we see here is parents that are parenting as they were taught by their own parents and to me,that is sad,what awful lives they must have had growing up. What a pity that this cycle will continue. Now, I must go for a bit, I have to set up sleeping areas for a mom and baby who were kicked out by the baby's father and have no where else to go. I will check back if I have time. Take care all.



I agree with you that the reporting on this case leaves much to be desired. It's like they all are putting their own slant to what they report and are doing it just for the fame and hits to their websites...........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:25:18 PM
You take care too searching.  Good on you, for your kind deed to this Mom and her baby!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 12, 2009, 09:25:56 PM


Searching~Again WE will have to agree to disagree..............if you felt it was the best thing to do then so be it, but I personally tink Ron is in part responsble, has helped by sheltering Misty, coached her AND now TM states that Ron texted her that Donna B was a plant, so I personally would not stand by a man that will not stand up for his daughter and the truth.
So let's just agree to disagree compadre.

So, what is the problem with BOTH  parents standing together demanding answers from the LE?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I posted above why...........if he was not a suspect (per his atty), it would be different, but he texted Misty to tell her Donna was a plant, why would I stand beside someone who is trying to hide the truth??

It still wouldn't hurt to have a united front. JMO


I would like to see them unite and get Misty to talk but it doesn't seem to be a priority on Ronald's end........

OOps,messed this one up...
Or Crystal's or Grammas on both sides.. FTLOG, they need to stop being selfish and put their differences and feelings aside and come together to find her... JMO



I'm thinking that Crystal just doesn't seem to know how to get involved in an adult way concerning her children. Maybe the same holds true for Ron but I really have doubts about his intentions in all this. If I were Haleigh's Mom I would know everything about the time leading up to Haleigh"s disappearance and everything that went on with all concerned. LE would have to lock me up to keep me from getting knee deep into the investigation. But then, I never would have lost custody of my children to begin with. Maybe she's grown up some by now, but she just doesn't seem to know how to assert herself. All these people just seem so pathetic.......

From what she says, Crystal has trouble getting out of bed!  Sounds bad to me.  Perhaps she is sick in some way, mentally or physically.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 09:28:33 PM
I think I will wait until I hear some actual facts from law enforcement. seems the reporters that have latched on have been shown to be errrr embellishing on the information to sensationalize and gain readers so, I think that it is safer to wait until I hear it from the horses mouth.
I think that all involved have failed this child in the worst way and none of them deserve a pass. That is my opinion and I will stand by that because I am thinking of Haleigh and on her side. I am not friends with either side of the family and have never spoken to them,nor do I want to. I would not associate myself with either side. I am on Haleigh's side and looking at this in an objective manner. Both sides have said and done things to set my hinky meter off. I feel for the children involved. What I think we see here is parents that are parenting as they were taught by their own parents and to me,that is sad,what awful lives they must have had growing up. What a pity that this cycle will continue. Now, I must go for a bit, I have to set up sleeping areas for a mom and baby who were kicked out by the baby's father and have no where else to go. I will check back if I have time. Take care all.



I agree with you that the reporting on this case leaves much to be desired. It's like they all are putting their own slant to what they report and are doing it just for the fame and hits to their websites...........

I agree on the reporting as well...
take care of the mom and babe, Searching!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 09:30:25 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 09:36:00 PM
Ronald Cummings' lawyer on the next step
   Reported by: Matt Saffer
Email: msaffer@ActionNewsJax.com
Last Update: 6:40 pm



ST. AUGUSTINE, Fla.-- Ronald Cummings has been appearing in a lot of national newscasts recently. Mainly, he has been asked questions about his recent separation from his wife, Misty. On the surface he’s very composed. Behind closed doors, his lawyer says Ronald blames himself for his daughter’s disappearance.

“I know he blames himself for going to work that night. He beats himself up, you know, why didn’t I just call in sick that night? This never would have happened,” said Ronald’s attorney, Terry Shoemaker.

Shoemaker says much of the talk has revolved around where Ronald would like to see this investigation go. He says the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office is doing an excellent job following leads and tips, but a fresh set of eyes may benefit the investigation.

“What we’d like to do is hire an independent private investigator that would allow them to look into some different areas, check down some different stories that have come in and possibly lead the investigation in another direction,” said Shoemaker.

Shoemaker is looking at ways right now to set up a non-profit organization. He says its purpose would be two-fold. It would help get the word out about Haleigh’s disappearance, and it would also serve as a way to gather funds to pay the private investigator.

“We just want another set of eyes on there to look at stuff and to possibly go in some different directions,” said Shoemaker.
 
Shoemaker also shared with Action News details of some of the private conversations he’s had with Ronald, particularly surrounding his recent separation from his wife Misty.
 
“Ronald has said all along that he believes Misty. That he believes she did not have anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Some things that did concern him were the fact that her stories did change a little each time she talked to law enforcement or every time she made a statement. But he doesn’t believe she had anything to do with the actual taking of Haleigh,” said Shoemaker.

Action News asked Ronald’s attorney what he says to try and keep Ronald’s spirits up. Shoemaker wouldn’t discuss specifics of his private conversations, but did say he tries to tell him to keep hope alive.
 
“It’s that old cliché. No news is good news. So, as long as nothing bad has come of Haleigh that we know of, other than her being taken obviously, then we still have hope that we’re going to find her alive. And I keep reinforcing that to Ronald. You know, until we find her then we don’t know what happened. And there’s always hope that we’re going to find her alive,” said Shoemaker.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Ronald-Cummings-lawyer-on-the-next-step/jBFxScAWG06mxzE70qvTQg.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:36:03 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 09:38:33 PM
" Ronald has said all along that he believes Misty. That he believes she did not have anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Some things that did concern him were the fact that her stories did change a little each time she talked to law enforcement or every time she made a statement. But he doesn’t believe she had anything to do with the actual taking of Haleigh,” said Shoemaker.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 09:40:38 PM

Ron sent a text message to Misty cautioning her that Donna is a plant!?  Why would Ron feel it necessary to warn her?
Something stinks!  jmo
It doesn't just stink can, it wreaks!

ITA.... ::MonkeyGavel::

Hi there JG!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 09:41:11 PM
maybe Ron and Crystal should pool their donation money together and hire a private eye to look for Haleigh..jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 09:41:15 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can ::MonkeyNoNo:: You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment ::MonkeyConfused::

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 09:42:00 PM
" Ronald has said all along that he believes Misty. That he believes she did not have anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Some things that did concern him were the fact that her stories did change a little each time she talked to law enforcement or every time she made a statement. But he doesn’t believe she had anything to do with the actual taking of Haleigh,” said Shoemaker.   ::MonkeyEek::

doesn't make sense...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 09:47:59 PM
" Ronald has said all along that he believes Misty. That he believes she did not have anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Some things that did concern him were the fact that her stories did change a little each time she talked to law enforcement or every time she made a statement. But he doesn’t believe she had anything to do with the actual taking of Haleigh,” said Shoemaker.   ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyNoNo::

Goes against everything a loving father should state, added to that coaching and sheltering Misty, and now flat out warning her about the "planted spy"...........none of his actions speak innocence to me, sadly I feel Haleigh is home now and I am worried sick about butterbean ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 09:48:54 PM
" Ronald has said all along that he believes Misty. That he believes she did not have anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Some things that did concern him were the fact that her stories did change a little each time she talked to law enforcement or every time she made a statement. But he doesn’t believe she had anything to do with the actual taking of Haleigh,” said Shoemaker.   ::MonkeyEek::

The lawyer say Ron doesn't believe Misty had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.  However he is concerned her stories change a little each time blah blah blah.   

I would like to know definitively if Ron believes Misty was asleep inside that home the night Haleigh went missing.  THAT is what I would like to know.

Not all the other lawyer talk. 

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 09:53:01 PM
" Ronald has said all along that he believes Misty. That he believes she did not have anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Some things that did concern him were the fact that her stories did change a little each time she talked to law enforcement or every time she made a statement. But he doesn’t believe she had anything to do with the actual taking of Haleigh,” said Shoemaker.   ::MonkeyEek::

The lawyer say Ron doesn't believe Misty had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.  However he is concerned her stories change a little each time blah blah blah.   

I would like to know definitively if Ron believes Misty was asleep inside that home the night Haleigh went missing.  THAT is what I would like to know.

Not all the other lawyer talk. 

 

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I think we will be waiting until he77 freezes over before we stop getting the lawyer spin.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 12, 2009, 09:54:20 PM
Good night ya'll. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 09:59:39 PM
Good night ya'll. ::MonkeyAngel::

good nite Fanny...I am not far behind...Castle is starting...my favorite show...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 10:02:09 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can ::MonkeyNoNo:: You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment ::MonkeyConfused::

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling ::MonkeyTongue::

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 10:02:20 PM
I think I will wait until I hear some actual facts from law enforcement. seems the reporters that have latched on have been shown to be errrr embellishing on the information to sensationalize and gain readers so, I think that it is safer to wait until I hear it from the horses mouth.
I think that all involved have failed this child in the worst way and none of them deserve a pass. That is my opinion and I will stand by that because I am thinking of Haleigh and on her side. I am not friends with either side of the family and have never spoken to them,nor do I want to. I would not associate myself with either side. I am on Haleigh's side and looking at this in an objective manner. Both sides have said and done things to set my hinky meter off. I feel for the children involved. What I think we see here is parents that are parenting as they were taught by their own parents and to me,that is sad,what awful lives they must have had growing up. What a pity that this cycle will continue. Now, I must go for a bit, I have to set up sleeping areas for a mom and baby who were kicked out by the baby's father and have no where else to go. I will check back if I have time. Take care all.



I agree with you that the reporting on this case leaves much to be desired. It's like they all are putting their own slant to what they report and are doing it just for the fame and hits to their websites...........

I agree!

To add to the problem, the legitimate news agencies are not bothering to take the time to even get their facts straight!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MunkeyMunk on October 12, 2009, 10:03:33 PM
" Ronald has said all along that he believes Misty. That he believes she did not have anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Some things that did concern him were the fact that her stories did change a little each time she talked to law enforcement or every time she made a statement. But he doesn’t believe she had anything to do with the actual taking of Haleigh,” said Shoemaker.   ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyNoNo::

Goes against everything a loving father should state, added to that coaching and sheltering Misty, and now flat out warning her about the "planted spy"...........none of his actions speak innocence to me, sadly I feel Haleigh is home now and I am worried sick about butterbean ::MonkeyAngel::

I agree sadly island, Haleigh is already home and these excuses for humans are covering for each other...makes me wana puke & cry!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 12, 2009, 10:03:35 PM
Good night ya'll. ::MonkeyAngel::
Nite Fanny.  Hope that sore throat is getting better.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 12, 2009, 10:08:59 PM
They want to set up a non profit to find Haleigh. Did they take lessons from the Ants. ?
..
If TM made the report to PCSD what have they been waiting for ?
This PCSD has alot to answer for.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 10:10:37 PM
Ronald Cummings' lawyer on the next step
   Reported by: Matt Saffer
Email: msaffer@ActionNewsJax.com
Last Update: 6:40 pm



ST. AUGUSTINE, Fla.-- Ronald Cummings has been appearing in a lot of national newscasts recently. Mainly, he has been asked questions about his recent separation from his wife, Misty. On the surface he’s very composed. Behind closed doors, his lawyer says Ronald blames himself for his daughter’s disappearance.

“I know he blames himself for going to work that night. He beats himself up, you know, why didn’t I just call in sick that night? This never would have happened,” said Ronald’s attorney, Terry Shoemaker.

Shoemaker says much of the talk has revolved around where Ronald would like to see this investigation go. He says the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office is doing an excellent job following leads and tips, but a fresh set of eyes may benefit the investigation.

“What we’d like to do is hire an independent private investigator that would allow them to look into some different areas, check down some different stories that have come in and possibly lead the investigation in another direction,” said Shoemaker.

Shoemaker is looking at ways right now to set up a non-profit organization. He says its purpose would be two-fold. It would help get the word out about Haleigh’s disappearance, and it would also serve as a way to gather funds to pay the private investigator.

“We just want another set of eyes on there to look at stuff and to possibly go in some different directions,” said Shoemaker.
 
Shoemaker also shared with Action News details of some of the private conversations he’s had with Ronald, particularly surrounding his recent separation from his wife Misty.
 
“Ronald has said all along that he believes Misty. That he believes she did not have anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Some things that did concern him were the fact that her stories did change a little each time she talked to law enforcement or every time she made a statement. But he doesn’t believe she had anything to do with the actual taking of Haleigh,” said Shoemaker.

Action News asked Ronald’s attorney what he says to try and keep Ronald’s spirits up. Shoemaker wouldn’t discuss specifics of his private conversations, but did say he tries to tell him to keep hope alive.
 
“It’s that old cliché. No news is good news. So, as long as nothing bad has come of Haleigh that we know of, other than her being taken obviously, then we still have hope that we’re going to find her alive. And I keep reinforcing that to Ronald. You know, until we find her then we don’t know what happened. And there’s always hope that we’re going to find her alive,” said Shoemaker.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Ronald-Cummings-lawyer-on-the-next-step/jBFxScAWG06mxzE70qvTQg.cspx



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“What we’d like to do is hire an independent private investigator that would allow them to look into some different areas, check down some different stories that have come in and possibly lead the investigation in another direction,” said Shoemaker.

Shoemaker is looking at ways right now to set up a non-profit organization. He says its purpose would be two-fold. It would help get the word out about Haleigh’s disappearance, and it would also serve as a way to gather funds to pay the private investigator.


They are so trying to follow in the footsteps of the Ant's....Maybe they can hire Dominic Casey, he needs job since he never got paid by Bozo or the Ant's........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 12, 2009, 10:11:15 PM
Nite Fanny & Cookie, I'm outta here also! :smt034

PS and O/T: I love "Castle", great new show this season.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 10:12:05 PM
They want to set up a non profit to find Haleigh. Did they take lessons from the Ants. ?
..
If TM made the report to PCSD what have they been waiting for ?
This PCSD has alot to answer for.
 


We were thinking the same thing...lol......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 12, 2009, 10:13:29 PM
Nite Fanny & Cookie, I'm outta here also! :smt034

PS and O/T: I love "Castle", great new show this season.

nite all!

and yes...Castle is awesome...he is so cute...sorry for the o/t...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 10:14:24 PM
They want to set up a non profit to find Haleigh. Did they take lessons from the Ants. ?
..
If TM made the report to PCSD what have they been waiting for ?
This PCSD has alot to answer for.
 

Took it straight frm the A's playbook ........TM did report it to PSCO according to that article an so far TM has been very outspoken regarding the Cummings/Croslins and I believe him. PCSO has to answer for this, and DCF should too.......They failed Haleigh and now wtf are they waiting for to get butterbean out of there ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 10:15:34 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can ::MonkeyNoNo:: You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment ::MonkeyConfused::

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling ::MonkeyTongue::

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?



I thought he was getting counseling, did Ron put a stop to it? If that's the case, something is really wrong......That poor baby has to be traumatized by all this in addition to the lack of parenting.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 10:16:21 PM
" Ronald has said all along that he believes Misty. That he believes she did not have anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance. Some things that did concern him were the fact that her stories did change a little each time she talked to law enforcement or every time she made a statement. But he doesn’t believe she had anything to do with the actual taking of Haleigh,” said Shoemaker.   ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyNoNo::

Goes against everything a loving father should state, added to that coaching and sheltering Misty, and now flat out warning her about the "planted spy"...........none of his actions speak innocence to me, sadly I feel Haleigh is home now and I am worried sick about butterbean ::MonkeyAngel::

I agree sadly island, Haleigh is already home and these excuses for humans are covering for each other...makes me wana puke & cry!!!

Me too MM~I am sick at these latest revelations :smt078



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 10:17:20 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can ::MonkeyNoNo:: You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment ::MonkeyConfused::

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling ::MonkeyTongue::

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?



I thought he was getting counseling, did Ron put a stop to it? If that's the case, something is really wrong......That poor baby has to be traumatized by all this in addition to the lack of parenting.......

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 10:18:38 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.


Ok, first TN and RC request the help of Mark Nejame and TM.

Then GG Sykes was going to throw Misty out of a window if she did not do the poly according to TM.

Then MC and RC got upset after the Misty's results were revealed by TM and associates and did not want to have any more to do with him.

According to TM RC revealed to him the Tommy Croslin's mailbox headless rat gift. saying he was testing Misty to see how well she could lie.

Then Misty decides to go to Orlando with her new found friend, sugar mama Donna Brock of Equusearch, who they just a couple of weeks earlier said they (RC and MC) said they wanted nothing to do with anymore. Did not RC and MC know at this time that Donna Brock was with Equusearch?  Why would MC trust DB?  Was the money (chump change) too much of a temptation, or is MC just that dumb?

Then along comes TN claiming that her boyfriend funded MC's Orlando Universal Studio trip in which Ronald was suppose to meet MC. Was it really in the plan for Ronald to meet MC in Orlando or was it an after thought for some reason.

Did TN's boyfriend fund the first Orlando trip as TN stated on NG or did TM?

Where was it that RC and Jr met up with Misty so that Jr could enjoy a moment of childhood without the media spotlights or was that the real reason RC met with Misty?

Who funded RC and Jr's little vacation, was it TN, Ronald's unemployment funds, or TN'S boyfriend?

Why did TN say that MC's new found friend was paying for everything and that the friend's husband is independently wealthy?  Was TN not aware of what was going on with TM and DB prior to DB's cover being blown.

Why after Donna Brock's cover was blown did TN come clean with who funded at least the second trip?

Why would RC text message MC while she is on the set at CBS to warn her that DB was undecover snitch mama?

All I have to say about all of the above is that if RC, MC, TN and GG Sykes is that blind and stupid, and still are capable of holding Putnam LE at bay for 8 months, there is no hope for Satsuma/Palatka. 

And no little, lovely HaLeigh never had a chance.

Was




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 12, 2009, 10:19:10 PM
HT:  MyView

10/17/2009 5:00 PM at Benefit/Concert for Missing Child Haleigh Cummings!
The OO Ranch 1001 FM 969, Bastrop, Texas 78602
Cost: 10.00

Sam Watkins and Fate Train will be performing songs from Sam’s current CD "Has Anybody Seen Me?" and the new CD "A New Way To Fly"... Hope you can make it and God Bless! - Sam Watkins Description You are cordially invited to attend a Benefit/Concert 20 miles outside of Austin for missing child Haleigh Cummings. Featuring: Sam Watkins and Fate Train, other bands, fingerprinting and ID’s for children, food and drinks, and many more activities. Money raised will benefit the Haleigh Bug Foundation that will aide in the search of Haleigh and help raise the reward money. To purchase your ticket go to: http://bit.ly/5jIDE
http://music.myspace.com/index.cfm?

I found this in JSM's thread.
..
Ron's lawyer probably said to him :
Every day that they don't find Haleigh, you're a free man. Enjoy !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 10:20:13 PM
I have a question and I know I read this, but where  ::MonkeyConfused::  When Ron was working at PDM, they didn't have the fingerprint method of clocking in, they used another means. I thought the fingerprint method came after Ron left the job? I could be wrong, just thought I read that  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 10:27:25 PM
I have a question and I know I read this, but where  ::MonkeyConfused::  When Ron was working at PDM, they didn't have the fingerprint method of clocking in, they used another means. I thought the fingerprint method came after Ron left the job? I could be wrong, just thought I read that  ::MonkeyConfused::

I read that too, but who knows if it's true. Although, if he was driving a forklift in "the back 40", getting off the property without being seen would hardly be a problem IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 10:27:36 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can ::MonkeyNoNo:: You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment ::MonkeyConfused::

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling ::MonkeyTongue::

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?



I thought he was getting counseling, did Ron put a stop to it? If that's the case, something is really wrong......That poor baby has to be traumatized by all this in addition to the lack of parenting.......

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved ::MonkeyConfused::

#  hangnon Says:

September 16th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 10:30:32 PM
He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved


Thanks for the info Island. Makes me wonder what Ron is afraid of...........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 10:30:49 PM
oops hope Ronald did not go after Cobra if he read this http://www.bloggernews.net/122596

Cobra made a statement about HaLeigh not being Ronalds...have any of you heard this rumor?

Am pedaling fast to catch up!  But ya know, if true, THIS could make me sit up and go, 'oh snit!'   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 10:30:52 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can ::MonkeyNoNo:: You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment ::MonkeyConfused::

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling ::MonkeyTongue::

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?



I thought he was getting counseling, did Ron put a stop to it? If that's the case, something is really wrong......That poor baby has to be traumatized by all this in addition to the lack of parenting.......

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved ::MonkeyConfused::

#  hangnon Says:

September 16th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896
Don't know if that's true or not, however if I were Crystal I doubt I'd trust anythig he did because it seems to be all a cover my @ss mode. I'll find out though if this is true or not.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 10:32:17 PM
I would like to know if this is a private counsler or state appointed that Jr. goes to, if it is state appointed I feel like Jr. is once again not getting the proper help he needs....sorry but DCF has not made any effort in his best interest.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 10:33:57 PM
He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved


Thanks for the info Island. Makes me wonder what Ron is afraid of...........

The TRUTH!
he can't handle the truth (sorry, couldn't help myself  ::MonkeyDevil2:: ), and the fact he texted Misty about Donna being a plant just reinforces it.





Found this and Misty OR anyone make her read this:


Misty,

As a new day comes to Welaka, Florida, look around you. Look out the back door of the trailer you are living in at the pile of old tires and the collection of junk. Look at the people your life’s choices have placed you with. You are married to an individual who is what he will be for the rest of his life. What you see is what you will get for the rest of your life also. There is no desire or capacity for change. He is a wannabe thug with his own mother’s first name tattooed across his chest. Not your name Misty, but Teresa his momma. What do you see for yourself as a future in this deal?

I was in Palatka at Riverfront Park for Haleigh’s Closet when you arrived. I saw your beautiful smile when you got out of the back of the car along with your mother in law. I saw a 17 year old girl who, instead of being escorted to the prom as the homecoming queen, watched her husband and his wannabe thug swagger leave you with his GGM and mother so he could be the first one to the tent where the mother of his children was at. He didn’t even acknowledge your presence did he?

No matter what actually happened on February 9th and 10th in Satsuma, there is only one thing that can help you now, Misty. Tell the truth today. Tell the truth about what happened to a little girl who adored you. There can now only be one winner in this situation and it’s going to be whoever tells the truth first. No matter your involvement, the truth will improve your position.

Misty, tell the truth today.

Papa





From H4H site and LLM Papa


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 10:33:57 PM
I think I will wait until I hear some actual facts from law enforcement. seems the reporters that have latched on have been shown to be errrr embellishing on the information to sensationalize and gain readers so, I think that it is safer to wait until I hear it from the horses mouth.
I think that all involved have failed this child in the worst way and none of them deserve a pass. That is my opinion and I will stand by that because I am thinking of Haleigh and on her side. I am not friends with either side of the family and have never spoken to them,nor do I want to. I would not associate myself with either side. I am on Haleigh's side and looking at this in an objective manner. Both sides have said and done things to set my hinky meter off. I feel for the children involved. What I think we see here is parents that are parenting as they were taught by their own parents and to me,that is sad,what awful lives they must have had growing up. What a pity that this cycle will continue. Now, I must go for a bit, I have to set up sleeping areas for a mom and baby who were kicked out by the baby's father and have no where else to go. I will check back if I have time. Take care all.



I agree with you that the reporting on this case leaves much to be desired. It's like they all are putting their own slant to what they report and are doing it just for the fame and hits to their websites...........

I agree!

To add to the problem, the legitimate news agencies are not bothering to take the time to even get their facts straight!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Have been almost since day one.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 10:34:21 PM


Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896




There is just too much going on for me to even follow. They each want a therapist of their own choice.......Poor kid......Why aren't they concerned about finding one that he likes and is comfortable with.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 12, 2009, 10:35:52 PM
I just peeked in and well, there was NO proof that Ron refused to take Jr for counseling.. I found it odd myself that on the VERY day she was to return him from his 6 week stay with her,she hauls Ron into court under new allegations. I am not wearing blinders. I just think it was another attempt at taking custody or trying to pile up allegations thinking it will help her to win but in reality, it is hurting the search for her daughter.. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 12, 2009, 10:36:56 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can ::MonkeyNoNo:: You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment ::MonkeyConfused::

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling ::MonkeyTongue::

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?



I thought he was getting counseling, did Ron put a stop to it? If that's the case, something is really wrong......That poor baby has to be traumatized by all this in addition to the lack of parenting.......

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved ::MonkeyConfused::

#  hangnon Says:

September 16th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896
Don't know if that's true or not, however if I were Crystal I doubt I'd trust anythig he did because it seems to be all a cover my @ss mode. I'll find out though if this is true or not.



About the gun in the home in a unlocked closet....we hear on the news every day of children playing with guns and accidental shooting another child...now what if Jr. decides he will act out what he saw Ronald doing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 10:37:30 PM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can ::MonkeyNoNo:: You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment ::MonkeyConfused::

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling ::MonkeyTongue::

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?



I thought he was getting counseling, did Ron put a stop to it? If that's the case, something is really wrong......That poor baby has to be traumatized by all this in addition to the lack of parenting.......

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved ::MonkeyConfused::

#  hangnon Says:

September 16th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896
Don't know if that's true or not, however if I were Crystal I doubt I'd trust anythig he did because it seems to be all a cover my @ss mode. I'll find out though if this is true or not.

Also Butterbean missed his last counseling sessions or one recent one (I don't know how often he goes) because the couselor was ill.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 10:38:46 PM
HaleighNewz AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
4 minutes ago from HootSuite

snipped

There, he says Ronald lead him to a closet, where he kept an assault rifle, with two clips, each holding 32 rounds, and pulled it out.

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller tells me Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head.

Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’

“I said, ‘Ronald, give me that damn gun! You don’t need that gun around here. We don’t need anymore problems,’ and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’

“And Junior is in the room, watching, and I’m thinking, ‘Here we go. He’s got a gun in the closet that doesn’t lock. It’s not in a locked gun case and there’s Junior in the house. It felt like child endangerment to me.



DCF WHERE IN THE HE77 ARE U????????????? REMOVE JR NOW ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::



Wonder how many reports from monkeys across America will it TAKE for DCF to wake the heck up and take action to remove Jr??   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 10:44:38 PM


Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896




There is just too much going on for me to even follow. They each want a therapist of their own choice.......Poor kid......Why aren't they concerned about finding one that he likes and is comfortable with.......

Exactly.

Parents need to be a united front for their kids.

I think some people have been trying to say this.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 12, 2009, 10:45:01 PM
guys my opinionabout the donna thing....  misty kne wwho she was... she was on her ms friends and since misty i'm sure just looks at pictures since she cannot read (LOL)... she no doubt knew exactly who donna was... as far as ron texting either to kiss up to misty like to reel her back in so he could again keep his enemy close again or to make it seem like she didn't know who she was before... which she did.. if that is the case then it lends credibility to maybe misty telling donna the "truth" since she supposedly didn't know she should lie to her ... make it seem like you trust someone and are opening up to someone for the sole purpose of disinformation....
jmo
but she definitely knew exactly who donna was and her tes connection... without a doubt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 10:46:58 PM
HaleighNewz AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
4 minutes ago from HootSuite

snipped

There, he says Ronald lead him to a closet, where he kept an assault rifle, with two clips, each holding 32 rounds, and pulled it out.

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller tells me Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head.

Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’

“I said, ‘Ronald, give me that damn gun! You don’t need that gun around here. We don’t need anymore problems,’ and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’

“And Junior is in the room, watching, and I’m thinking, ‘Here we go. He’s got a gun in the closet that doesn’t lock. It’s not in a locked gun case and there’s Junior in the house. It felt like child endangerment to me.



DCF WHERE IN THE HE77 ARE U????????????? REMOVE JR NOW ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::



Wonder how many reports from monkeys across America will it TAKE for DCF to wake the heck up and take action to remove Jr??   

 ::MonkeyDevil2:: Lot's I'm guessing! Pirate posted he number for DCF on twitter already


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 10:51:17 PM
Hello all, been working alllll day again and just got caught up here.....Goodness what a lot of stuff going on....

I congradulate Crystal for doing like she is and not appearing on shows like The Early Show,the only reason they wanted her on there was so they could continue on with the war of who said this and who said that....If they want to show HaLeighs picture and keep her face out there they could do that without all this hoopla....Maybe she doesnt want to enter into all this glory seeking he said she said crap........

  It was reported before.....several times that Crystal calls LE on a daily basis to ask if they have anything new or if there is anything else she can do to help with the investigation....

  I understand about some wanting to say that Ronald and Crystal should stand together to find HaLeigh, but.....Ronald should have worried about standing with Crystal before HaLeigh came up missing, if he hadnt been so mad because she finally got the good sense to leave his butt, then HaLeigh could have been with her that night, He could have called her and said Im having some problems right now with this girl and can I leave the kids with you for a few weeks until I get things straightened out, I know HaLeigh had school and all, but Im just giving and example of how things could have gone
   Crystal did try to call the kids almost every day and alot of times Ronald would tell her that they couldnt come to the phone that they were playing or that they werent there or whatever he could come up with to just be mean..

   When Crystal left Ronald she took her kids with her and  Ronald came crying to her and begged her to let them go with him on his little trip to Mexico and promised her he would bring them back in a few days, only he didnt do that and he hid them from her until he filed for custody..

  Now, I would not....could not.. stand with Ronald united in a plea for HaLeigh when he would just drag Misty alone to shove in my face...no I couldnt do that, could any of you stand there beside the person that you feel is responsible for your child being gone...I couldnt ...not with out slapping the crap out of her and then going to jail myself........Crystal said she spoke with Ronald about Misty and told him she didnt want to be around Misty when she came to get Jr. or talk to him about anything to do with Haleigh, and she said Ronald said....what do you want me to do......hmmmm, well thats a big man for you.....how about leave her butt at the house.......how about make her understand that its the two of you that has a child missing and she needs to stay out of it unless she is ready to tell what happened .........

   
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 10:52:23 PM
guys my opinionabout the donna thing....  misty kne wwho she was... she was on her ms friends and since misty i'm sure just looks at pictures since she cannot read (LOL)... she no doubt knew exactly who donna was... as far as ron texting either to kiss up to misty like to reel her back in so he could again keep his enemy close again or to make it seem like she didn't know who she was before... which she did.. if that is the case then it lends credibility to maybe misty telling donna the "truth" since she supposedly didn't know she should lie to her ... make it seem like you trust someone and are opening up to someone for the sole purpose of disinformation....
jmo
but she definitely knew exactly who donna was and her tes connection... without a doubt

hey penny!

I remember before Donna set her page private, I did see Misty listed as a friend.

Good point.

I also believe Misty knew exactly who Donna was when they went away together.

And Misty is no street fool. I believe she also knew what and what not to tell Donna.

JMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 12, 2009, 10:55:09 PM
Fanny,
I didn't want to comment until I got caught up, then didn't want to go back and find your post to me so I can quote it (I've been out all day, I'm so tired!).  I just wanted to say that I do respect your opinion and find we are on the same side of most arguments.  I do respect you as you have always spoke your mind, and I have to love you for that.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I'm a black and white tell it like it is and you better not lie to me kinda girl.  I've said it before, I can deal with the truth  ::Baseball:: ...but I hate a liar.  ::MonkeyMad:: (and we have a lot of those in this case, sadly)  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I just wish we never ever got upset with each other but I know that's not gonna happen. ::MonkeyAngel::  I just like to see adults agreeing to disagree and treating each other respectfully.  We can learn from each other and I really don't mind someone challenging my way of thinking or disagreeing with me, as long as they're polite.  A good, clean debate can sometimes even sway my opinion.   ::MonkeyDevil::


 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 10:57:05 PM
I just peeked in and well, there was NO proof that Ron refused to take Jr for counseling.. I found it odd myself that on the VERY day she was to return him from his 6 week stay with her,she hauls Ron into court under new allegations. I am not wearing blinders. I just think it was another attempt at taking custody or trying to pile up allegations thinking it will help her to win but in reality, it is hurting the search for her daughter.. JMO
How about, thats what date the court had opened and scheduled that day for this hearing, I doubt Crystal could tell the courts when she wanted to make a appearance, and I dont think getting married and getting tatooes and fighting with inlaws and going mudbogging is helping find their daughter either....I believe Jr. needs counseling and if this is what it took to get it for him...then I say...more power to her....................


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 10:57:30 PM
guys my opinionabout the donna thing....  misty kne wwho she was... she was on her ms friends and since misty i'm sure just looks at pictures since she cannot read (LOL)... she no doubt knew exactly who donna was... as far as ron texting either to kiss up to misty like to reel her back in so he could again keep his enemy close again or to make it seem like she didn't know who she was before... which she did.. if that is the case then it lends credibility to maybe misty telling donna the "truth" since she supposedly didn't know she should lie to her ... make it seem like you trust someone and are opening up to someone for the sole purpose of disinformation....
jmo
but she definitely knew exactly who donna was and her tes connection... without a doubt

hey penny!

I remember before Donna set her page private, I did see Misty listed as a friend.

Good point.

I also believe Misty knew exactly who Donna was when they went away together.

And Misty is no street fool. I believe she also knew what and what not to tell Donna.

JMO.



I think you're so right about Misty knowing what she was doing.......None of this was a surprise to her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 12, 2009, 10:57:32 PM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 10:58:52 PM


Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896




There is just too much going on for me to even follow. They each want a therapist of their own choice.......Poor kid......Why aren't they concerned about finding one that he likes and is comfortable with.......

N2WISHN, I am not sure if they are related are not but Crystal's lawyer's last name is Caldwell and so is the Attorney that closed the DCF case.

“This office has been advised verbally by Attorney Kevin Caldwell of the Palatka office of the Florida Division of Children and Families that their investigation is closed with no factual finding of abuse against Ronald Cummings. We are awaiting the written report. Ronald Cummings Jr. will continue to reside with and be in the custody of Ronald Cummings. Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin Cummings have both agreed to take parenting classes, which is a standard precaution that DCF seeks.”
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:r8GRToGtwnIJ:www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-mother-fires-lawyer/MJLzNHfa_kW9NEtIY25Psw.cspx%3Frss%3D1+crystal+sheffield+kevin+caldwell+dcf&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Kevin S. Caldwell, Esq.
Circuit Senior Attorney
Children’s Legal Services
Department of Children and Families
600 College Road
Palatka, FL  32177
Telephone:  (386) 329-3516
Florida Bar No:  626651

12/10-12/17-12/24-12/31/08

Attorney Carol A. Caldwell Crystal's attorney
http://www.carolcaldwelllaw.com/st-augustine-attorney-profile.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 10:59:21 PM
Island...I read that article that LLPapa wrote also and he dont a dang good job, it is a great article.......... ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 10:59:22 PM
NRCG~This was what I could find out about the PDM fingerprint scanning info and it may be what you've read also, but just in case her ya go:

I'm going to post one paragraph from an e-mail I received a couple of months ago from a local who knows an employee of PDM. This PDM employee works there now as well as in February when RC was there.


Quote
The clock in system that they have for employees NOW is a whole lot different than what they had back in February!!!!  Now they have a laser time card where you have to insert the last four digits of your S.S. # and then SCAN your entire hand.  Quite sophisticated stuff NOW.  However....back in February, they had a time card that was done on the computer and it DID NOT ALWAYS WORK.  It was common for workers to have to go back and 'clock' in when the computer was back up and running or to have co-workers do it for them, if they were busy.  I asked if it was possible back then for workers to slip in or out and he quickly said, "oh yeah, no problem, guys did it all the time."  There is parking that isn't within the gated/guard area, down by heavy fabrication, but not many people use that area to park in.




Fom LLM Papa


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 11:03:25 PM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 11:03:31 PM
guys my opinionabout the donna thing....  misty kne wwho she was... she was on her ms friends and since misty i'm sure just looks at pictures since she cannot read (LOL)... she no doubt knew exactly who donna was... as far as ron texting either to kiss up to misty like to reel her back in so he could again keep his enemy close again or to make it seem like she didn't know who she was before... which she did.. if that is the case then it lends credibility to maybe misty telling donna the "truth" since she supposedly didn't know she should lie to her ... make it seem like you trust someone and are opening up to someone for the sole purpose of disinformation....
jmo
but she definitely knew exactly who donna was and her tes connection... without a doubt

hey penny!

I remember before Donna set her page private, I did see Misty listed as a friend.

Good point.

I also believe Misty knew exactly who Donna was when they went away together.

And Misty is no street fool. I believe she also knew what and what not to tell Donna.

JMO.



I think you're so right about Misty knowing what she was doing.......None of this was a surprise to her.

Great possibilty, but that still begs the question of why Ron texted her to tell her about Donna being a plant? D@mn, I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that house tonight, wherever they are staying ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 11:05:55 PM
Island...I read that article that LLPapa wrote also and he dont a dang good job, it is a great article.......... ::MonkeyCheer4::

Thanks, I love to read his post and he posted a longgggggg time ago that Ron's main job was a forklift driver, so I've been looking for his post about that for quite awhile now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 11:06:41 PM
NRCG~This was what I could find out about the PDM fingerprint scanning info and it may be what you've read also, but just in case her ya go:

I'm going to post one paragraph from an e-mail I received a couple of months ago from a local who knows an employee of PDM. This PDM employee works there now as well as in February when RC was there.


Quote
The clock in system that they have for employees NOW is a whole lot different than what they had back in February!!!!  Now they have a laser time card where you have to insert the last four digits of your S.S. # and then SCAN your entire hand.  Quite sophisticated stuff NOW.  However....back in February, they had a time card that was done on the computer and it DID NOT ALWAYS WORK.  It was common for workers to have to go back and 'clock' in when the computer was back up and running or to have co-workers do it for them, if they were busy.  I asked if it was possible back then for workers to slip in or out and he quickly said, "oh yeah, no problem, guys did it all the time."  There is parking that isn't within the gated/guard area, down by heavy fabrication, but not many people use that area to park in.




Fom LLM Papa
Thank-you, I do believe that was what I had read  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 12, 2009, 11:08:02 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 12, 2009, 11:09:48 PM
Island...I read that article that LLPapa wrote also and he dont a dang good job, it is a great article.......... ::MonkeyCheer4::

Thanks, I love to read his post and he posted a longgggggg time ago that Ron's main job was a forklift driver, so I've been looking for his post about that for quite awhile now.

IM ~ does he post at Topix, or where?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 11:13:25 PM


Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896




There is just too much going on for me to even follow. They each want a therapist of their own choice.......Poor kid......Why aren't they concerned about finding one that he likes and is comfortable with.......

N2WISHN, I am not sure if they are related are not but Crystal's lawyer's last name is Caldwell and so is the Attorney that closed the DCF case.

“This office has been advised verbally by Attorney Kevin Caldwell of the Palatka office of the Florida Division of Children and Families that their investigation is closed with no factual finding of abuse against Ronald Cummings. We are awaiting the written report. Ronald Cummings Jr. will continue to reside with and be in the custody of Ronald Cummings. Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin Cummings have both agreed to take parenting classes, which is a standard precaution that DCF seeks.”
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:r8GRToGtwnIJ:www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-mother-fires-lawyer/MJLzNHfa_kW9NEtIY25Psw.cspx%3Frss%3D1+crystal+sheffield+kevin+caldwell+dcf&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Kevin S. Caldwell, Esq.
Circuit Senior Attorney
Children’s Legal Services
Department of Children and Families
600 College Road
Palatka, FL  32177
Telephone:  (386) 329-3516
Florida Bar No:  626651

12/10-12/17-12/24-12/31/08

Attorney Carol A. Caldwell Crystal's attorney
http://www.carolcaldwelllaw.com/st-augustine-attorney-profile.html


Interesting, and more to think about...ugh.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 12, 2009, 11:14:06 PM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 11:14:20 PM
Island...I read that article that LLPapa wrote also and he dont a dang good job, it is a great article.......... ::MonkeyCheer4::

Thanks, I love to read his post and he posted a longgggggg time ago that Ron's main job was a forklift driver, so I've been looking for his post about that for quite awhile now.

IM ~ does he post at Topix, or where?

He post at Hearts for Haleigh , he used to post at the Art Harris site until the spunkmeister didn't like what he posted.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 11:16:01 PM
They want to set up a non profit to find Haleigh. Did they take lessons from the Ants. ?
..
If TM made the report to PCSD what have they been waiting for ?
This PCSD has alot to answer for.
 
Don't Crystal and Marie already have one?  Have they raised enough money yet to hire a private investigator? Whats going on with that foundation and monies?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 12, 2009, 11:16:30 PM
wonder what would make PDM put in this sophisticated way of clocking in right after Haleigh went missing......now they can be sure who is there and who is not? are they wondering themselves if Ron was there all night ???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 11:17:34 PM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


I agree with you O4B, especially after hearing the incident from TM and jr witnessing it, children can and do imitate what they see .  ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears:: Poor butterbean....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 11:17:59 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you
I believe that also O4B, if he was really interested in Misty telling the truth he wouldnt care who she was hanging with or talking too, every time he turns around he is taking up for Misty, and then some wonder why Crystal cant stand united with him in the search for HaLeigh, and with all this doubt being placed on him and his actions, heck I wouldnt wanna stand beside him either because on the other side of him would stand Misty and I couldnt take being within breathing distance of her.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 11:18:46 PM
They want to set up a non profit to find Haleigh. Did they take lessons from the Ants. ?
..
If TM made the report to PCSD what have they been waiting for ?
This PCSD has alot to answer for.
 
Don't Crystal and Marie already have one?  Have they raised enough money yet to hire a private investigator? Whats going on with that foundation and monies?

I know they never cashed my check or would let me help out when I offered.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 12, 2009, 11:18:46 PM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm with you on that one, a horribly irresponsible gun owner  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 11:18:47 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you



That would seem to be the case if in fact he did text her. But, with all the hype and lousy reporting going on do we really know for sure that he sent that message? I'm having a hard time believing anything I hear or read at this point. So many conflicting reports coming from so many different directions.   Got my head spinning..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 11:19:32 PM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

AMEN.....O4Bull......great insight....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 11:21:00 PM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


I am asking what currently, legally has RC done that would warrant LE to go in and take his gun/s?

I posted what I posted because I don't understand why some think that LE can just go in and take someones guns. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 11:21:12 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you



That would seem to be the case if in fact he did text her. But, with all the hype and lousy reporting going on do we really know for sure that he sent that message? I'm having a hard time believing anything I hear or read at this point. So many conflicting reports coming from so many different directions.   Got my head spinning..........
mine too, but with this comment coming from Tim Miller, I am more likely to believe it, I think he is closer to the truth then any of these media outlets....IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 11:21:54 PM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

AMEN.....O4Bull......great insight....
Do you have the answer to my question?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 11:22:08 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you



That would seem to be the case if in fact he did text her. But, with all the hype and lousy reporting going on do we really know for sure that he sent that message? I'm having a hard time believing anything I hear or read at this point. So many conflicting reports coming from so many different directions.   Got my head spinning..........

Sinc he quoted Tim Miller I guess we can wait and see if he rebutts it, but I heard from Tim about the gun incident because I posted about it a while back, I just never knew JR was in the room. The rest I heard from TM's mouth, otherwise I'd give no credit to an AH article except with a grain of salt.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 11:22:09 PM
wonder what would make PDM put in this sophisticated way of clocking in right after Haleigh went missing......now they can be sure who is there and who is not? are they wondering themselves if Ron was there all night ???


That's a good question.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 11:27:19 PM
HaleighNewz Many people are requesting this number: Florida DCF Hotline 1-800-96-ABUSE9 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 11:28:33 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you



That would seem to be the case if in fact he did text her. But, with all the hype and lousy reporting going on do we really know for sure that he sent that message? I'm having a hard time believing anything I hear or read at this point. So many conflicting reports coming from so many different directions.   Got my head spinning..........
mine too, but with this comment coming from Tim Miller, I am more likely to believe it, I think he is closer to the truth then any of these media outlets....IMO



i'm with you on that but who was it that actually quoted TM? Was it that Steph guy or Art Harris or someone else? I just don't have much faith in the reporting going on. All of these guys seem to be manufacturing details adding to the confusion.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 11:29:02 PM
HaleighNewz Many people are requesting this number: Florida DCF Hotline 1-800-96-ABUSE9 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/

HaleighNewz Many people are alarmed at TM's statement that RC threatened to kill Misty and placed assault rifle barrel in his mouth in front of Junior.31 minutes ago from HootSuite

http://twitter.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 11:30:30 PM
Here is one of the videos with Tim Miller when he talks about blowing her teeth out the back of her head, I'll have to find the other one that mentions the taking himself and others out also.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtQegfTOc4Q
That in an of itself should be enough to get a gun, much less an assault rifle away from him ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 11:32:35 PM
Misty Croslin Points Finger at Haleigh`s Mom`s Family
NANCY GRACE TRANSCRIPT (Aired October 12, 2009)
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 12, 2009, 11:32:47 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you



That would seem to be the case if in fact he did text her. But, with all the hype and lousy reporting going on do we really know for sure that he sent that message? I'm having a hard time believing anything I hear or read at this point. So many conflicting reports coming from so many different directions.   Got my head spinning..........
mine too, but with this comment coming from Tim Miller, I am more likely to believe it, I think he is closer to the truth then any of these media outlets....IMO



i'm with you on that but who was it that actually quoted TM? Was it that Steph guy or Art Harris or someone else? I just don't have much faith in the reporting going on. All of these guys seem to be manufacturing details adding to the confusion.

In that article YES, but I just posted a video from Geraldo where TM talks about it and will have to find the other one that was posted where he mentioned taking others out with him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 12, 2009, 11:33:09 PM
What I am saying about takeing the gun out of the house is this. All the things that he said like blowing misty teeth through the back of her head and take a few other people with him almost getting down on his knees and saying then he would kill hisself. Right there in front of butterbean. And putting it back in a closet with knoiw lock. Imo is reason enough to take the gun. And is the gun legal? I thought I read that it was not I could be wrong but that what I was thinking. And I can not for the life of me believe that he tiped misty off. I am telling ya. He is involed somehow someway. Jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 12, 2009, 11:34:03 PM
Good Night All!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 11:37:08 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you



That would seem to be the case if in fact he did text her. But, with all the hype and lousy reporting going on do we really know for sure that he sent that message? I'm having a hard time believing anything I hear or read at this point. So many conflicting reports coming from so many different directions.   Got my head spinning..........

According to Art Harris' new article (http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#more-3224)

Art says that TM said:

Quote
"The information, that her pal, Donna, was in effect a spy, albeit for a good cause, reached Misty after the CBS Early Show flew the women to New York for Misty’s two part interview last week. “She was sitting there and got a text from Ronald, telling her what happened,” says Miller. “Let’s just say she wasn’t too happy.”

Take that for what it's worth.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 11:41:53 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you



That would seem to be the case if in fact he did text her. But, with all the hype and lousy reporting going on do we really know for sure that he sent that message? I'm having a hard time believing anything I hear or read at this point. So many conflicting reports coming from so many different directions.   Got my head spinning..........

According to Art Harris' new article (http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#more-3224)

Art says that TM said:

Quote
"The information, that her pal, Donna, was in effect a spy, albeit for a good cause, reached Misty after the CBS Early Show flew the women to New York for Misty’s two part interview last week. “She was sitting there and got a text from Ronald, telling her what happened,” says Miller. “Let’s just say she wasn’t too happy.”

Take that for what it's worth.



I guess I'll believe it when I see it and hear it come out of TM's mouth.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 12, 2009, 11:42:41 PM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


I am asking what currently, legally has RC done that would warrant LE to go in and take his gun/s?

I posted what I posted because I don't understand why some think that LE can just go in and take someones guns. 

Many areas have CAP (Child Access Protection) laws that require firearms to be under lock and key when in the same house as a child.

From: http://www.bradycampaign.org/stategunlaws/FL

Florida - State law holds gun owners responsible if they leave a gun easily accessible to a child under 16 years old and the child uses the gun to injure or threaten someone. In addition, individual counties may strengthen their CAP law by requiring gun owners to lock up firearms when not under an adults control, in homes where children are present. Miami-Dade County and the City of South Miami have adopted such ordinances.

I think this is why many people believe RC should not be in possession of a firearm. Because it was not locked up and JR was in the home. Although I cannot find anywhere on the web to show me that Putnam County has such an addition to the CAP law as cited above.

JMO, but I wish every county would make it a law to have firearms locked when a child is in the home.

Just trying to answer the question.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 11:43:31 PM
Guess it's time to call it a night. I'm forgetting things I knew a few hours ago. Let's see what new confusion comes up tomorrow..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 12, 2009, 11:44:58 PM

I am asking what currently, legally has RC done that would warrant LE to go in and take his gun/s?

I posted what I posted because I don't understand why some think that LE can just go in and take someones guns. 

I hear ya, Heart.  Wish I knew the legal aspects of what LE can do in taking a gun.  From Ron tho, what he said and did, in front of Jr., that's cause enough for DCF to go in and remove the child, if not the gun.  It's the 'threat of', IMO. Which no, isn't ill-legal in and of itself.  Still and all tho, making the threat and doing those things, in front of Jr. is enough to consider the person a possible danger to themself or others. 

It would have been enough even for who witnessed Ron doing/saying this to have called 911, reported the threat and Ron 'could have' been baker-acted.  At which point DCF 'could have' stepped in on behalf of Jr.  But evidently it wasn't done that.  We've heard the incident was reported to LE, dunno when or how it was mentioned.  Seems that LE chose, for whatever reason, to do nothing.   
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 12, 2009, 11:49:49 PM
They are all dirty lieing people. They all think that they are smart. But they piss me off so bad. I just wanna go where ever misty is and beat the answer out of her. And when I get done with her I would love a turn at ron. I just want to go to florida so bad if I had the funds to do so I would do it in a minute. And I would give my all to bring hasleigh home. And or find some answers. And honestly I like crystal don't know her personally gues I can't say I like her. But in ways I feel for her. But on the other hand I would love to smack the crap out of her and tell her to wake uo. And get a grip and find out something or atleast do something. It just seems her lawyer won't let her do anything. Not be I guess I would have to be locked up. Because my hands would be around misty neck untill I got some answers. Sorry so long you guys. I am just ticked off.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 12, 2009, 11:52:14 PM
So bout my bad spelling I am on my blackberry the letters are smaller. Sorry


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 12, 2009, 11:54:23 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

I see it is the same chit, different day.

Luvmyboyz.....aren't you the one that was texting with Crystal last week? I thought you knew her?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 11:54:50 PM
They are all dirty lieing people. They all think that they are smart. But they piss me off so bad. I just wanna go where ever misty is and beat the answer out of her. And when I get done with her I would love a turn at ron. I just want to go to florida so bad if I had the funds to do so I would do it in a minute. And I would give my all to bring hasleigh home. And or find some answers. And honestly I like crystal don't know her personally gues I can't say I like her. But in ways I feel for her. But on the other hand I would love to smack the crap out of her and tell her to wake uo. And get a grip and find out something or atleast do something. It just seems her lawyer won't let her do anything. Not be I guess I would have to be locked up. Because my hands would be around misty neck untill I got some answers. Sorry so long you guys. I am just ticked off.
Misty doesnt have a lawyer anymore.....he dropped her......she is free to do whatever she wants.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 12, 2009, 11:55:39 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you
I believe that also O4B, if he was really interested in Misty telling the truth he wouldnt care who she was hanging with or talking too, every time he turns around he is taking up for Misty, and then some wonder why Crystal cant stand united with him in the search for HaLeigh, and with all this doubt being placed on him and his actions, heck I wouldnt wanna stand beside him either because on the other side of him would stand Misty and I couldnt take being within breathing distance of her.....
it's all nice in theory but highly unrealistic at this point.  there's no way in he77 I'd trust anyone on ron's side when not a single one of them has stood up for Haleigh.  when they've aligned themselves with the ONE person who could help find the truth about Haleigh instead of demanding she tell the truth, what good would it do? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 11:56:36 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

I see it is the same chit, different day.

Luvmyboyz.....aren't you the one that was texting with Crystal last week? I thought you knew her?
She is, and I see why you are asking her because of the quote she just wrote, but what she said was that she, unlike Crystal doesnt know Misty,,,,,,,,,,she means Crystal knows Misty but she doesnt, I guesss thats what she meant..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on October 12, 2009, 11:57:37 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

I see it is the same chit, different day.

Luvmyboyz.....aren't you the one that was texting with Crystal last week? I thought you knew her?


Yikes. It was her that posted her conversation with Crystal.....Good eye Darla.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 12, 2009, 11:59:15 PM
I don't know her as in I have never met her. Only talk to her on phone and on myspace im.  But I was talking about crystal lawyer not letting her do anything. Not misty.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 12, 2009, 11:59:53 PM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you
I believe that also O4B, if he was really interested in Misty telling the truth he wouldnt care who she was hanging with or talking too, every time he turns around he is taking up for Misty, and then some wonder why Crystal cant stand united with him in the search for HaLeigh, and with all this doubt being placed on him and his actions, heck I wouldnt wanna stand beside him either because on the other side of him would stand Misty and I couldnt take being within breathing distance of her.....
it's all nice in theory but highly unrealistic at this point.  there's no way in he77 I'd trust anyone on ron's side when not a single one of them has stood up for Haleigh.  when they've aligned themselves with the ONE person who could help find the truth about Haleigh instead of demanding she tell the truth, what good would it do? 
I agree, its easier to talk the talk, but pretty hard to walk the walk, I wouldnt want to stand beside ronald, not when he is suspitious to me to.....and how would the two of them united help find HaLeigh????.......it wont.......it would make Misty mad an she sure wouldnt talk then.....goodness, thats would be all they would need was to give Misty another reason to keep her mouth closed or leave town all together,,,,,,I mean really....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 12:00:44 AM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

I see it is the same chit, different day.

Luvmyboyz.....aren't you the one that was texting with Crystal last week? I thought you knew her?
She is, and I see why you are asking her because of the quote she just wrote, but what she said was that she, unlike Crystal doesnt know Misty,,,,,,,,,,she means Crystal knows Misty but she doesnt, I guesss thats what she meant..

I don't think so HH, but I might be mistaken.

But I think someone needs to call the FBI in cause Putnam Co SO does not appear to be doing their job.'


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 12:02:34 AM
Oh no no I am not repeating nothing she has said if that is what you are asking. I was told not to and I am not doing it. I learned my lesson I will never repeat anything she says to me in hear again


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 12:02:51 AM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you
I believe that also O4B, if he was really interested in Misty telling the truth he wouldnt care who she was hanging with or talking too, every time he turns around he is taking up for Misty, and then some wonder why Crystal cant stand united with him in the search for HaLeigh, and with all this doubt being placed on him and his actions, heck I wouldnt wanna stand beside him either because on the other side of him would stand Misty and I couldnt take being within breathing distance of her.....
it's all nice in theory but highly unrealistic at this point.  there's no way in he77 I'd trust anyone on ron's side when not a single one of them has stood up for Haleigh.  when they've aligned themselves with the ONE person who could help find the truth about Haleigh instead of demanding she tell the truth, what good would it do? 

AMEN~That's exactly what I've been stating all night.


FROM LLM Papa over at H4H:


Now, back in February, there was over time a plenty for most everyone...working 10 and 12 hour shifts, again, depending on where they worked in the plant. Back then, the second shift started at 4:30pm!!!

Let me start at the beginning of our conversation. Starting salary for anyone is what he believes is 12-12.99 an hour. That's whether you begin as a janitor or a welder or a painter ...whatever.

The clock in system that they have for employees NOW is a whole lot different than what they had back in February!!!! Now they have a laser time card where you have to insert the last four digits of your S.S. # and then SCAN your entire hand. Quite sophisticated stuff NOW. However....back in February, they had a time card that was done on the computer and it DID NOT ALWAYS WORK. It was common for workers to have to go back and 'clock' in when the computer was back up and running or to have co-workers do it for them, if they were busy. I asked if it was possible back then for workers to slip in or out and he quickly said, "oh yeah, no problem, guys did it all the time." There is parking that isn't within the gated/guard area, down by heavy fabrication, but not many people use that area to park in.

There is ONE guard on duty. They stay in the guard shack and only check to make sure that you are an employee of PDM. They don't check bags going in to the plant or going out. That is all that they do. There are lots of surveilance cameras all over the place, but for the most part, they're located towards the front of the plant, like where the admin/office is located and entrances areas, with lots of 'blind areas'. There are cameras inside the fabrication buildings, to fight off theft, he said.

HOWEVER, out in the yard, there are few cameras there and in the back, North 40, which is what they call the area of the yard that RC worked in, driving a crane and MOSTLY a forklift. This area is dark at night. Pitchblack dark and no lighting in area. It also is swamp land just before the river in this area. When anyone on second shift had to go in that area, they had to use their flashlights. This plant is so close to the river and it's swampland area that it is not uncommon he said to have 6 foot gators come into the=2 0yard and water moccasins are commonly found, even within the open ended fabrication buildings! He said that you go back towards the N. 40/swamp and wooded area and it's nothing to see gator eyes everywhere near and in the water. Said that they've had plenty of gators, too many to count come in the yard. He said the parking lot that is fenced and guarded is lit near the front where the guard shack is located. However it is pretty dark further back, towards the northend of parking lot...AND it is accessible by anyone who is already within the plant/yard area WITHOUT having to go by the guard up front where one drives in and out. HMMMMM There are NO CAMERAS in the North 40/swamp wooded area and it is DARK there...he mentioned this more than once! He said this is the area that RC worked.

He clocked in at one of the two time clock locations...one is in Bay 1 heavy fabrication bldg. and the other is in Bay 2, paint, etc. I asked about the lunch time and he said that the yard crew got pretty much whatever they wanted, bunch of slackers for the most part and RC was part of the 'yard crew'. They could take 1 hour for lunch and no one would know...not like the guys who worked in the fab. buildings, where supervision was a little more stricter.

So, there you have it, for what it's worth! I have notes that I jotted down, looked over and don't think I left anything out. Hope this answers some of your questions.

Have a good week!







This was an email he got from his source, you can read it all there:

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=23.4410


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 12:02:55 AM
They are all dirty lieing people. They all think that they are smart. But they piss me off so bad. I just wanna go where ever misty is and beat the answer out of her. And when I get done with her I would love a turn at ron. I just want to go to florida so bad if I had the funds to do so I would do it in a minute. And I would give my all to bring hasleigh home. And or find some answers. And honestly I like crystal don't know her personally gues I can't say I like her. But in ways I feel for her. But on the other hand I would love to smack the crap out of her and tell her to wake uo. And get a grip and find out something or atleast do something. It just seems her lawyer won't let her do anything. Not be I guess I would have to be locked up. Because my hands would be around misty neck untill I got some answers. Sorry so long you guys. I am just ticked off.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Violence is rarely the answer. JMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 12:03:23 AM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

I see it is the same chit, different day.

Luvmyboyz.....aren't you the one that was texting with Crystal last week? I thought you knew her?
She is, and I see why you are asking her because of the quote she just wrote, but what she said was that she, unlike Crystal doesnt know Misty,,,,,,,,,,she means Crystal knows Misty but she doesnt, I guesss thats what she meant..

I don't think so HH, but I might be mistaken.

But I think someone needs to call the FBI in cause Putnam Co SO does not appear to be doing their job.'
Yea, I agree, they need to call someone, anyone that would go through that town with a fine tooth comb and put the fear of God into Misty and show her that play time is over.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 12:04:57 AM
Oh no no I am not repeating nothing she has said if that is what you are asking. I was told not to and I am not doing it. I learned my lesson I will never repeat anything she says to me in hear again

luvmyboys...I was not asking you to repeat anything....you just said a few post back that you didn't like Crystal....I thought you knew her since you had been chatting with her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 13, 2009, 12:05:17 AM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


I am asking what currently, legally has RC done that would warrant LE to go in and take his gun/s?

I posted what I posted because I don't understand why some think that LE can just go in and take someones guns. 
I would hope that because he made threats to a 911 operator that could be used but I don't know the laws in Florida.  If he's threatened murder and suicide they should Baker Act him.  They should have taken Jr. out of there a long time ago and now that it's reported he's threatened murder and suicide I think DCF (is that what they're called?) should be forced to take action.

I was responding that if they took his they wouldn't have to take every American's.  Guns don't kill people, people kill people.  Most guns that are legally owned aren't used in crimes, it's the criminals that have the illegal or unregistered guns.  If you take away guns from everyone, the crooks will still have them because they never follow the law.  People who oppose guns should really consider what they are asking for.  Can you tell I'm a strong proponent of the right to bear arms? LOL

I hate guns, they scare me!  However, my DH has several but they are all locked and put away.  We're not like the cummings and shouldn't be treated like them.

okay, off my soap box


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 12:07:23 AM
O4B........Bravo....very well spoken....again!!!!!!! ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 12:10:16 AM
Oh I am sorry guess what I was saying is that I really can't say either way. Because I have never met her in person only talked on phone and on myspace. And I didn't think you were trying to get me to say anything she has said to me hun. Not at all. I was just putting it out there that I won't make that mistake in hear again lol.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 12:12:13 AM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


I am asking what currently, legally has RC done that would warrant LE to go in and take his gun/s?

I posted what I posted because I don't understand why some think that LE can just go in and take someones guns. 
I would hope that because he made threats to a 911 operator that could be used but I don't know the laws in Florida.  If he's threatened murder and suicide they should Baker Act him.  They should have taken Jr. out of there a long time ago and now that it's reported he's threatened murder and suicide I think DCF (is that what they're called?) should be forced to take action.

I was responding that if they took his they wouldn't have to take every American's.  Guns don't kill people, people kill people.  Most guns that are legally owned aren't used in crimes, it's the criminals that have the illegal or unregistered guns.  If you take away guns from everyone, the crooks will still have them because they never follow the law.  People who oppose guns should really consider what they are asking for.  Can you tell I'm a strong proponent of the right to bear arms? LOL

I hate guns, they scare me!  However, my DH has several but they are all locked and put away.  We're not like the cummings and shouldn't be treated like them.

okay, off my soap box

 ::MonkeyCheer2::

Great post, I do own 2 guns-however I keep the gun put away and my kids learned from an early age to respect guns and all about gun safety. With my son one of the first things I did was show him a youtube video of what my glock can do with a loaded clip.................he never wants to see that video again, and it's not violent it just shows the way that a semi-auto works yet he never wants to see a gun again ::MonkeyTongue::

That being said, I've never threatened to shoot anyone and think LE should take FAB's guns from him if only temporarily, and maybe forever ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 12:13:01 AM
Oh I am sorry guess what I was saying is that I really can't say either way. Because I have never met her in person only talked on phone and on myspace. And I didn't think you were trying to get me to say anything she has said to me hun. Not at all. I was just putting it out there that I won't make that mistake in hear again lol.
Well I have met her and spent time with her and talked to her, watched her cry......watched her hands shake when she recieved a phone call from pychics that told her that HaLeigh was in the swamps, listen to her talk about when HaLeigh came home what they were gonna do together, she spent time with my daughter and my daughter loves her to death.....she is a very sweet and soft spoken person....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 12:17:17 AM


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 12:19:17 AM
I just think they need to get someone in there with some brain cells and not a dang stupid azz PI like Dominic and Cobra. They need fresh eyes and someone who is not tied to that community. There should be a search every weekend. If they aren't out looking they are never going to find her. She didn't just get beamed up in a spaceship.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 13, 2009, 12:19:55 AM
Heart,
I have to tell you a story that pertains to my last post.  DH and I were out of town a few years ago and were seated a few tables away from the most annoying, loud, arrogant man who talked so loudly I couldn't hear my own children speaking to me.  It was early and I was grumpy because I can't stand obnoxious men and he was ruining my time with my family and we were on "vacation".  To make a bad situation even worse, when he got up to leave he walked past my table and gave me the "you know you want me" look.  He was coming on to me with my DH right there (although his back was to this jerk).  I said something not so nice and the guy then said " F you and your mother".  My DH was in his face in about 2 seconds saying "don't you EVER talk like that to my wife".  Then he told the guy to take it outside.  Right then and there this chicken snit dialed 911 and told them he was at Denny's, gave the address and described my DH down to the color of his shirt.  He said "this man will be dead when you get here and I killed him."
I called 911 then and reported the man, describing him down to his shoes and told them he had threatened to kill my husband and to send the police immediately.  The restaurant had already called in on him!  There were 3 of us in the restaurant on with 911 at the same time.  The whole restaurant was going nuts!!  My kids were crying because the man said he was going to kill my DH.

OMG!  Can I tell you this was very scary!  Anyway, they took the man's gun out of his car and stayed there until we had plenty of time to leave.  The LE there told my DH they may take his gun because he threatened my DH to the 911 operator but there apparently were no charges filed.  If he had done that in my state, he would have been arrested.  It's called premeditation!

Anyway, after that long story, my point is that depending on Florida laws, they may or may not have a right to take ron's gun.  However, they have more than enough reason to remove Jr. since ron sounds very unstable.  IMO


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Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 12:22:09 AM
Really. That is the impression I get from her also. She was and is very nice. When I speak with her. I wish so bad that there was something I could do to help her with the pain she is going through. I could not imagine something happening to my boys. It would kill me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 12:22:34 AM
I just think they need to get someone in there with some brain cells and not a dang stupid azz PI like Dominic and Cobra. They need fresh eyes and someone who is not tied to that community. There should be a search every weekend. If they aren't out looking they are never going to find her. She didn't just get beamed up in a spaceship.

I think this should have been done 8 months ago. Why wait until 8 months have passed?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 12:24:05 AM
I just think they need to get someone in there with some brain cells and not a dang stupid azz PI like Dominic and Cobra. They need fresh eyes and someone who is not tied to that community. There should be a search every weekend. If they aren't out looking they are never going to find her. She didn't just get beamed up in a spaceship.

I think this should have been done 8 months ago. Why wait until 8 months have passed?


and thats the question of the day????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 12:25:11 AM
I just think they need to get someone in there with some brain cells and not a dang stupid azz PI like Dominic and Cobra. They need fresh eyes and someone who is not tied to that community. There should be a search every weekend. If they aren't out looking they are never going to find her. She didn't just get beamed up in a spaceship.

I think this should have been done 8 months ago. Why wait until 8 months have passed?


and thats the question of the day????

Well, the real question of the day is:

Where is Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 12:26:15 AM
I just think they need to get someone in there with some brain cells and not a dang stupid azz PI like Dominic and Cobra. They need fresh eyes and someone who is not tied to that community. There should be a search every weekend. If they aren't out looking they are never going to find her. She didn't just get beamed up in a spaceship.

I think this should have been done 8 months ago. Why wait until 8 months have passed?


and thats the question of the day????

Well, the real question of the day is:

Where is Haleigh.
No, thats been the Question for the pst 8 months..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 12:27:50 AM
I just think they need to get someone in there with some brain cells and not a dang stupid azz PI like Dominic and Cobra. They need fresh eyes and someone who is not tied to that community. There should be a search every weekend. If they aren't out looking they are never going to find her. She didn't just get beamed up in a spaceship.
::MonkeyDevil2::  Darla don't give them any ideas, that may be their next story ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 12:27:56 AM
I just think they need to get someone in there with some brain cells and not a dang stupid azz PI like Dominic and Cobra. They need fresh eyes and someone who is not tied to that community. There should be a search every weekend. If they aren't out looking they are never going to find her. She didn't just get beamed up in a spaceship.

I think this should have been done 8 months ago. Why wait until 8 months have passed?


and thats the question of the day????

Well, the real question of the day is:

Where is Haleigh.
No, thats been the Question for the pst 8 months..........

And still the question of the day.

The only really important one for now.

JMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 12:28:55 AM
I just think they need to get someone in there with some brain cells and not a dang stupid azz PI like Dominic and Cobra. They need fresh eyes and someone who is not tied to that community. There should be a search every weekend. If they aren't out looking they are never going to find her. She didn't just get beamed up in a spaceship.

I think this should have been done 8 months ago. Why wait until 8 months have passed?



It really should have Brandi......This has just gone on to long. She will be found the same way most are...just someone will stumble upon her one day.

I just can't understand why LE seems to not give a d@mn. And something else that would help is the media to just quit reporting Ron and Misty's shenanigan's. Do not have them on, do not write about them ....nothing, nada.zip. Just keep reminding people that Haleigh is missing. Let the money and trips dry up. They contribute absolutely nothing to any interview. So why keep talking about them. IT is about Haleigh!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 12:30:57 AM
I just think they need to get someone in there with some brain cells and not a dang stupid azz PI like Dominic and Cobra. They need fresh eyes and someone who is not tied to that community. There should be a search every weekend. If they aren't out looking they are never going to find her. She didn't just get beamed up in a spaceship.

I think this should have been done 8 months ago. Why wait until 8 months have passed?


and thats the question of the day????

Well, the real question of the day is:

Where is Haleigh.
No, thats been the Question for the pst 8 months..........

And still the question of the day.

The only really important one for now.

JMO.
Well, it is.........but I guess since this is a dicussion forum and we are trying to find out the, how, why when where and by whom.....then we have to add a few more to it since we arent getting any answer to that one......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 13, 2009, 12:31:05 AM
Oh I am sorry guess what I was saying is that I really can't say either way. Because I have never met her in person only talked on phone and on myspace. And I didn't think you were trying to get me to say anything she has said to me hun. Not at all. I was just putting it out there that I won't make that mistake in hear again lol.
Well I have met her and spent time with her and talked to her, watched her cry......watched her hands shake when she recieved a phone call from pychics that told her that HaLeigh was in the swamps, listen to her talk about when HaLeigh came home what they were gonna do together, she spent time with my daughter and my daughter loves her to death.....she is a very sweet and soft spoken person....
this is just how I pictured her.  I knew someone like Crystal and it drove me crazy that she didn't stand up for herself.  It took me a long time to realize she's not me and we're all made differently.  I feel sorry for her because either way you look at it, she's lost Haleigh through no fault of her own.  I personally feel she was bullied by TN and GGMS as well as ron.  She didn't stand a chance and being such a laid back person, it looks like she didn't care.  I can see it on her face that she's torn up about it.  I don't think anything anyone says on an internet forum will hurt her as much as her disappointment in herself for not being more involved in Haleigh's life, especially now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 12:34:02 AM
Oh I am sorry guess what I was saying is that I really can't say either way. Because I have never met her in person only talked on phone and on myspace. And I didn't think you were trying to get me to say anything she has said to me hun. Not at all. I was just putting it out there that I won't make that mistake in hear again lol.
Well I have met her and spent time with her and talked to her, watched her cry......watched her hands shake when she recieved a phone call from pychics that told her that HaLeigh was in the swamps, listen to her talk about when HaLeigh came home what they were gonna do together, she spent time with my daughter and my daughter loves her to death.....she is a very sweet and soft spoken person....
this is just how I pictured her.  I knew someone like Crystal and it drove me crazy that she didn't stand up for herself.  It took me a long time to realize she's not me and we're all made differently.  I feel sorry for her because either way you look at it, she's lost Haleigh through no fault of her own.  I personally feel she was bullied by TN and GGMS as well as ron.  She didn't stand a chance and being such a laid back person, it looks like she didn't care.  I can see it on her face that she's torn up about it.  I don't think anything anyone says on an internet forum will hurt her as much as her disappointment in herself for not being more involved in Haleigh's life, especially now.

I've talked wih her and she's extremely passive and alost docile, I agree that she was probably bullied by TN, GGMS and Ron, rmember when TN gleefully told reporters that Haleigh wanted Misty as thier mom. I wanted to slap that smirk off her face ::Baseball::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 12:34:44 AM
I just peeked in and well, there was NO proof that Ron refused to take Jr for counseling.. I found it odd myself that on the VERY day she was to return him from his 6 week stay with her,she hauls Ron into court under new allegations. I am not wearing blinders. I just think it was another attempt at taking custody or trying to pile up allegations thinking it will help her to win but in reality, it is hurting the search for her daughter.. JMO
How about, thats what date the court had opened and scheduled that day for this hearing, I doubt Crystal could tell the courts when she wanted to make a appearance, and I dont think getting married and getting tatooes and fighting with inlaws and going mudbogging is helping find their daughter either....I believe Jr. needs counseling and if this is what it took to get it for him...then I say...more power to her....................

I was referring to the fact that she FILED the motion when she was to return him. Maybe I should have made myself more clear and I had commented on her timing as far as the motion went,when it happened. There is no reason to be snarky, I was being polite.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 12:36:29 AM
Oh I am sorry guess what I was saying is that I really can't say either way. Because I have never met her in person only talked on phone and on myspace. And I didn't think you were trying to get me to say anything she has said to me hun. Not at all. I was just putting it out there that I won't make that mistake in hear again lol.
Well I have met her and spent time with her and talked to her, watched her cry......watched her hands shake when she recieved a phone call from pychics that told her that HaLeigh was in the swamps, listen to her talk about when HaLeigh came home what they were gonna do together, she spent time with my daughter and my daughter loves her to death.....she is a very sweet and soft spoken person....
this is just how I pictured her.  I knew someone like Crystal and it drove me crazy that she didn't stand up for herself.  It took me a long time to realize she's not me and we're all made differently.  I feel sorry for her because either way you look at it, she's lost Haleigh through no fault of her own.  I personally feel she was bullied by TN and GGMS as well as ron.  She didn't stand a chance and being such a laid back person, it looks like she didn't care.  I can see it on her face that she's torn up about it.  I don't think anything anyone says on an internet forum will hurt her as much as her disappointment in herself for not being more involved in Haleigh's life, especially now.
Yes, Im sure it is,   but hind sight is 20/20 and she just isnt made like you or me, when that phychic called that day you could see the blood just drain from her face and she could hardly breath and someone had to take the phone away from her, you see her in that video on the morning HaLeigh came up missing trying to walk over to Ronald where he was sitting on the ground and she could barely walk she was shaking so bad,, her legs were trembling and she barely made it, Thats how she is,,,,how she is made, she doesnt do confrontation well and her nerves are at the breaking point, some people are just stronger then others...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 13, 2009, 12:37:53 AM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


I am asking what currently, legally has RC done that would warrant LE to go in and take his gun/s?

I posted what I posted because I don't understand why some think that LE can just go in and take someones guns. 
I would hope that because he made threats to a 911 operator that could be used but I don't know the laws in Florida.  If he's threatened murder and suicide they should Baker Act him.  They should have taken Jr. out of there a long time ago and now that it's reported he's threatened murder and suicide I think DCF (is that what they're called?) should be forced to take action.

I was responding that if they took his they wouldn't have to take every American's.  Guns don't kill people, people kill people.  Most guns that are legally owned aren't used in crimes, it's the criminals that have the illegal or unregistered guns.  If you take away guns from everyone, the crooks will still have them because they never follow the law.  People who oppose guns should really consider what they are asking for.  Can you tell I'm a strong proponent of the right to bear arms? LOL

I hate guns, they scare me!  However, my DH has several but they are all locked and put away.  We're not like the cummings and shouldn't be treated like them.

okay, off my soap box

 ::MonkeyCheer2::

Great post, I do own 2 guns-however I keep the gun put away and my kids learned from an early age to respect guns and all about gun safety. With my son one of the first things I did was show him a youtube video of what my glock can do with a loaded clip.................he never wants to see that video again, and it's not violent it just shows the way that a semi-auto works yet he never wants to see a gun again ::MonkeyTongue::

That being said, I've never threatened to shoot anyone and think LE should take FAB's guns from him if only temporarily, and maybe forever ::MonkeyTongue::
  I think it's great that you showed him, IM!  I got a stun gun (it's pink LOL) and DH bought "me" a gun that he carries.  I told him I was gonna get "him" a cute purse and carry it for him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 12:38:44 AM
I just peeked in and well, there was NO proof that Ron refused to take Jr for counseling.. I found it odd myself that on the VERY day she was to return him from his 6 week stay with her,she hauls Ron into court under new allegations. I am not wearing blinders. I just think it was another attempt at taking custody or trying to pile up allegations thinking it will help her to win but in reality, it is hurting the search for her daughter.. JMO
How about, thats what date the court had opened and scheduled that day for this hearing, I doubt Crystal could tell the courts when she wanted to make a appearance, and I dont think getting married and getting tatooes and fighting with inlaws and going mudbogging is helping find their daughter either....I believe Jr. needs counseling and if this is what it took to get it for him...then I say...more power to her....................

I was referring to the fact that she FILED the motion when she was to return him. Maybe I should have made myself more clear and I had commented on her timing as far as the motion went,when it happened. There is no reason to be snarky, I was being polite.
Not being snarky...just answering, again......and maybe something happened with Jr. in those 6 weeks that she had him that made her realize that he might need counseling and that was the reason for it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 12:41:39 AM
Yeah I agree that is true about her. But I also think it might not be to much longer before she just loses her cool. Jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 12:42:14 AM
I have been saying something about ron haven that gun. And doing what he did. It is bs that the le know that it is there. And have done nothing what so ever about it. Wth rlis the le and dcf thinking. I mean come on get butterbean the heck out of there. I think we should all blow up dcf phone untill he is taken out. Or untill le takes that gun out. And I swear I really think in my heart ron is involved. I just can not shake it.
Not taking up for RC, but if LE confiscates his gun, they will have to go in and confiscate all Americans with children guns and weapons, and I don't think that is going to happen.

Is Ron a felon or has he ever been ordered not to have a gun in his possession?

Do we know if he has a permit, I doubt it. But do we know?
Heart,
not all Americans with guns have records, not all have done or currently are doing drugs, not all Americans have a missing child who was last seen alive in the home they share with the most likely suspect who "let his child get stole", and lastly... not every American has threatened to kill the person responsible for "whatever happened to Haleigh" on a 911 call and given a demonstration in front of a witness of how he'll do it.....

so I have to respectfully disagree that if they take ron's gun they'll have to take everyone's .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


I am asking what currently, legally has RC done that would warrant LE to go in and take his gun/s?

I posted what I posted because I don't understand why some think that LE can just go in and take someones guns. 
I would hope that because he made threats to a 911 operator that could be used but I don't know the laws in Florida.  If he's threatened murder and suicide they should Baker Act him.  They should have taken Jr. out of there a long time ago and now that it's reported he's threatened murder and suicide I think DCF (is that what they're called?) should be forced to take action.

I was responding that if they took his they wouldn't have to take every American's.  Guns don't kill people, people kill people.  Most guns that are legally owned aren't used in crimes, it's the criminals that have the illegal or unregistered guns.  If you take away guns from everyone, the crooks will still have them because they never follow the law.  People who oppose guns should really consider what they are asking for.  Can you tell I'm a strong proponent of the right to bear arms? LOL

I hate guns, they scare me!  However, my DH has several but they are all locked and put away.  We're not like the cummings and shouldn't be treated like them.

okay, off my soap box

 ::MonkeyCheer2::

Great post, I do own 2 guns-however I keep the gun put away and my kids learned from an early age to respect guns and all about gun safety. With my son one of the first things I did was show him a youtube video of what my glock can do with a loaded clip.................he never wants to see that video again, and it's not violent it just shows the way that a semi-auto works yet he never wants to see a gun again ::MonkeyTongue::

That being said, I've never threatened to shoot anyone and think LE should take FAB's guns from him if only temporarily, and maybe forever ::MonkeyTongue::
  I think it's great that you showed him, IM!  I got a stun gun (it's pink LOL) and DH bought "me" a gun that he carries.  I told him I was gonna get "him" a cute purse and carry it for him.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  I bet he'd love that!!

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Here is the another post from LLMPapa........can't remember now who asked about this, I think it was Heart a while back:


  Re: Ongoing Case Discussion
« Reply #4413 on: Today at 10:41:19 PM »   

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I seem to get a surprising amount of information sent to me. Some from sources I know, some not. Some credible, some not. I received an e-mail on July 23rd containing the following information:

-There are employees that have said Ron was at work that night.

- He was late, and he was drunk...he was seen around 5:30-6:00 that evening not at work and drinking. He was possibly sent home early due to drinking.

-There are ATM records showing he used the machine before his 3 AM shift ended, proving he left early..

A few days later I received specific contact information for a man who lives in Palatka alleging to have verification of RC’s whereabouts on the night Haleigh disappeared.

He is the Belcher Tree Service customer who got an unexpected visit from his drunken, gun wielding tree service guy at 6:00 pm on 2/09/09, looking for fast cash.

After sitting on it for a month, I asked a local to contact this guy and get his story to see if it checked out. I received this e-mail a couple of days later:


Quote
-----Original Message-----
From: XXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX@live.com>
To: Papa XXXXXXXXXX@aol.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:24 pm
Subject: Xxx Xxxx

Papa!

Success! He was leery at first and I just told him we were discussing this case here in satsuma with friends and his name came up and so I was cuirous to know his side of the story and so he finally opened up and talked to me!

Okay, so here it is.


Mr. Xxxx said that he doesn't know RC personally that he only met him the night that HaLeigh went missing Mon. 9th because RC was there to talk to Mr. Xxxx's friend, looking for some money. Said that RC took down a tree for this friend of Mr. Xxxxx that past weekend. He said that RC was indeed drunk and was carrying a 9mm and that he was spouting off how he needed some more money and he was going to rob some crack head dealer. Mr. Xxxx said that his friend said to RC that he wasn't going with him, you're crazy. And things left at that. I asked the time if it was around 5:30-6:30ish and he said no it was much later than that, but that he couldn't remember exact times now since it was almost 7 months ago, BUT that it was much later than 5:30-6:30 to his recollection! He also said that LE took his statement so they have it and no they didn't tape him. Mr Xxxx is pleasant older sounding guy.

So...interesting, eh? WOW... Mr. Xxxx hadn't heard the latest breaking stuff that went on today about polygraphs and Misty...so I quickly filled him in and he said, yeah that youngin' knows more than she's been saying! I thanked him again for sharing with me and satisfying my curiosity.


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Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 12:42:48 AM


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Beautiful work as usual Brandi.

The mother and baby are sleeping finally,well,the baby is, the mother is laying in the other room awake.. will go check her again in a few. I had a few minutes to read up and saw this and it is great as all your work is, and I had to tell you how wonderful it is and you are as well for doing these.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 12:45:51 AM
Thank you Searching, and again, I am glad to see you posting here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 12:49:49 AM
Island, guess what....I have one of my foster daughters back here with me again, she is 18 now and with a baby and yesterday she caught the babies father hitting the child while she was in another room, she texted me about it and I sent the police out there and then went and picked her and the baby up and brought them here with me, she has to go to court in the morning about the father, but you should, have heard me cuss his butt out and with the police standing right there and they acted like they didnt even hear me.....lol.....if they hadnt have been there I would have knocked the he11 out of him....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 12:50:22 AM
Going over the NG transcripts and this relates to my last post from LLM Papa, I had never heard this before:

GRACE: OK. Terry, what did he do for a living? What was it exactly he did there?

SHOEMAKER: He was a crane operator, among some other responsibilities.

GRACE: I`m sorry. I couldn`t hear you. Repeat. He did what?

SHOEMAKER: He was a crane operator.

GRACE: OK. Were there other people around him observing him operating the crane, amongst other things?

SHOEMAKER: Yes. He was there all night. You know, there were some times, you know, based on our conversations with FDLE, that people didn`t actually see him, but they were for very short periods of time. And people saw him there all night, for the most part. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::





Now, you do have to take into consideration that people who aren't watching you wouldn't necessarily have a clear period of time in their head, could have been they thought it wasn't long or it was longer. I'd guess nobody clocked it as they would have never expected to be asked that question.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 12:51:57 AM
Island, guess what....I have one of my foster daughters back here with me again, she is 18 now and with a baby and yesterday she caught the babies father hitting the child while she was in another room, she texted me about it and I sent the police out there and then went and picked her and the baby up and brought them here with me, she has to go to court in the morning about the father, but you should, have heard me cuss his butt out and with the police standing right there and they acted like they didnt even hear me.....lol.....if they hadnt have been there I would have knocked the he11 out of him....
::MonkeyTongue:: I'd pay to see that!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 12:55:11 AM
If anyone is interested please pray for a sweet little girl named Jessica , she is on her final journey here on earth and Wednesday is her 11th birthday. Her website is...... http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/jessicaeasley.... if you would like to read her story. I have followed her journey for a long while now.

God Bless all the children tonight and always!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 12:55:20 AM
Island, guess what....I have one of my foster daughters back here with me again, she is 18 now and with a baby and yesterday she caught the babies father hitting the child while she was in another room, she texted me about it and I sent the police out there and then went and picked her and the baby up and brought them here with me, she has to go to court in the morning about the father, but you should, have heard me cuss his butt out and with the police standing right there and they acted like they didnt even hear me.....lol.....if they hadnt have been there I would have knocked the he11 out of him....
::MonkeyTongue:: I'd pay to see that!
I tpld the police offficer the same thing and he said, "if we had known that we would have driven a little slower and given you time to get here first.....lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 12:55:30 AM
Unless Ron commits a crime with that gun, LE has no grounds to take it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights

The Bill of Rights prohibits Congress from making any law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, forbids infringement of "...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms...", and prohibits the federal government from depriving any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law. In federal criminal cases, it requires indictment by grand jury for any capital or "infamous crime", guarantees a speedy public trial with an impartial jury composed of members of the state or judicial district in which the crime occurred, and prohibits double jeopardy. In addition, the Bill of Rights states that "the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people,"[3] and reserves all powers not granted to the federal government to the citizenry or States. Most of these restrictions were later applied to the states by a series of decisions applying the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which was ratified in 1868, after the American Civil War.


http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 12:56:28 AM
TERRY SHOEMAKER, ATTORNEY FOR RONALD CUMMINGS: Ron has stuck by Misty all along. He`s always thought that she`s told the truth. He has had some turns -- concerns, I`m sorry, regarding what she has said, some discrepancies between different statements. But he has stood by her all along.

He bases that on the fact that she has been a little loose on certain situations and she has changed her story a little here and there, but nothing major. I don`t think he`s doubting whether or not she was involved. He`s just doubting whether everything she said is what transpired that night. But he in no way believes she was involved whatsoever.  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I just caught this one too......tell me, is that not the understatement of this year ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 12:57:44 AM
If anyone is interested please pray for a sweet little girl named Jessica , she is on her final journey here on earth and Wednesday is her 11th birthday. Her website is...... http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/jessicaeasley.... if you would like to read her story. I have followed her journey for a long while now.

God Bless all the children tonight and always!

Night Auntie Darla ::MonkeyAngel:: I'll go check it out ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 01:00:34 AM
Thank you Searching, and again, I am glad to see you posting here.

Thank you Brandi. I have a young lady and baby to check on..I will try to check back if they are sleeping. I know the baby is,but the mom is having a rough time getting to sleep..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:00:51 AM

 The 2009 Florida Statutes
 
 Title XLVI
CRIMES Chapter 790
WEAPONS AND FIREARMS View Entire Chapter
 
790.162  Threat to throw, project, place, or discharge any destructive device, felony; penalty.--It is unlawful for any person to threaten to throw, project, place, or discharge any destructive device with intent to do bodily harm to any person or with intent to do damage to any property of any person, and any person convicted thereof commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

History.--s. 2, ch. 59-29; s. 7, ch. 69-306; s. 748, ch. 71-136; s. 45, ch. 88-381; s. 4, ch. 90-124; s. 4, ch. 90-176.
 
 
From the Florida Statutes........looks like this might be a way ::MonkeyBike::

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0790/SEC162.HTM&Title=->2009->Ch0790->Section%20162#0790.162


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 01:02:39 AM
Oh IM...I am not going to bed just yet. Was just checking on some of the children I follow and thought I would ask for prayers for her and her family.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:03:05 AM
Or even this:

The 2009 Florida Statutes
 
 Title XLVI
CRIMES Chapter 790
WEAPONS AND FIREARMS View Entire Chapter
 
790.174  Safe storage of firearms required.--

(1)  A person who stores or leaves, on a premise under his or her control, a loaded firearm, as defined in s. 790.001, and who knows or reasonably should know that a minor is likely to gain access to the firearm without the lawful permission of the minor's parent or the person having charge of the minor, or without the supervision required by law, shall keep the firearm in a securely locked box or container or in a location which a reasonable person would believe to be secure or shall secure it with a trigger lock, except when the person is carrying the firearm on his or her body or within such close proximity thereto that he or she can retrieve and use it as easily and quickly as if he or she carried it on his or her body.

(2)  It is a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, if a person violates subsection (1) by failing to store or leave a firearm in the required manner and as a result thereof a minor gains access to the firearm, without the lawful permission of the minor's parent or the person having charge of the minor, and possesses or exhibits it, without the supervision required by law:

(a)  In a public place; or

(b)  In a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner in violation of s. 790.10.

This subsection does not apply if the minor obtains the firearm as a result of an unlawful entry by any person.

1(3)  As used in this act, the term "minor" means any person under the age of 16.

History.--ss. 2, 7, ch. 89-534; s. 1216, ch. 97-102.

1Note.--Also published at s. 784.05(4).
 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 01:05:42 AM
Well, Im off to bed in a few, but let me say that I dont care about any bill of rights, or anything else, all I care about is HaLeigh and getting Jr. to a safe place, Jr. has rights too, and I think if asked he would say, please take the gun away from my dad, I dont want him to shoot someone or himself.........Ronald doesnt have the right to bear arms if he is gonna threaten everyone around him with it, its against the law to have a gun in the house with a small child and not keep it locked up.....yes it is.......and so therefore he should have that gun taken away........I can guarantee you if Jr,. was to get that gun and shoot it and hurt himself or someone else ....Ronald will be arrested......and the gun then taken .......and that would be too late......



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:07:02 AM
Oh IM...I am not going to bed just yet. Was just checking on some of the children I follow and thought I would ask for prayers for her and her family.

You know I will, when eli was still with us, I looked at the caringbridge several times a day........it was heartbreaking.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 01:08:03 AM
Thank You IM for posting that,    there's more then one Law I see......Good......that one applies to Ronald and why his gun should be taken..................


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:09:16 AM
Well, Im off to bed in a few, but let me say that I dont care about any bill of rights, or anything else, all I care about is HaLeigh and getting Jr. to a safe place, Jr. has rights too, and I think if asked he would say, please take the gun away from my dad, I dont want him to shoot someone or himself.........Ronald doesnt have the right to bear arms if he is gonna threaten everyone around him with it, its against the law to have a gun in the house with a small child and not keep it locked up.....yes it is.......and so therefore he should have that gun taken away........I can guarantee you if Jr,. was to get that gun and shoot it and hurt himself or someone else ....Ronald will be arrested......and the gun then taken .......and that would be too late......



D@mn straight he doesn't......I just posted 2 chapters from the FLORIDA statutes and looks like many would apply.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 01:13:43 AM
Well, Im off to bed in a few, but let me say that I dont care about any bill of rights, or anything else, all I care about is HaLeigh and getting Jr. to a safe place, Jr. has rights too, and I think if asked he would say, please take the gun away from my dad, I dont want him to shoot someone or himself.........Ronald doesnt have the right to bear arms if he is gonna threaten everyone around him with it, its against the law to have a gun in the house with a small child and not keep it locked up.....yes it is.......and so therefore he should have that gun taken away........I can guarantee you if Jr,. was to get that gun and shoot it and hurt himself or someone else ....Ronald will be arrested......and the gun then taken .......and that would be too late......



I researched this and posted my findings. It is just a page or so back.

I respectfully request that you show me the law or ordinance that pertains to Putnam County.

I do, however, think it should be a law everywhere, as i stated in my post.

Sadly, it is not.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 01:15:43 AM
There may be more then one law, but prove it was loaded and prove he threatened someone. I can tell my friend or neighbor all day long that I am going to blow XXX brains out, but until I walk into that persons house,on their property or in public and approach XXX and tell XXX I am going to blow their brains out while brandishing said fire arm, nothing can be done.

The U.S Constitution and Bill of Rights is an important part of our justice system, if not the foundation of and anyone who respects the law,respects what they stand for.. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:19:23 AM
Well, Im off to bed in a few, but let me say that I dont care about any bill of rights, or anything else, all I care about is HaLeigh and getting Jr. to a safe place, Jr. has rights too, and I think if asked he would say, please take the gun away from my dad, I dont want him to shoot someone or himself.........Ronald doesnt have the right to bear arms if he is gonna threaten everyone around him with it, its against the law to have a gun in the house with a small child and not keep it locked up.....yes it is.......and so therefore he should have that gun taken away........I can guarantee you if Jr,. was to get that gun and shoot it and hurt himself or someone else ....Ronald will be arrested......and the gun then taken .......and that would be too late......



I researched this and posted my findings. It is just a page or so back.

I respectfully request that you show me the law or ordinance that pertains to Putnam County.

I do, however, think it should be a law everywhere, as i stated in my post.

Sadly, it is not.

I just posted the Florida statute about gun storage above..........what we don't know however whether or not he keeps it loaded, then there is the law posted up about 3 post.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 13, 2009, 01:21:21 AM
Going over the NG transcripts and this relates to my last post from LLM Papa, I had never heard this before:

GRACE: OK. Terry, what did he do for a living? What was it exactly he did there?

SHOEMAKER: He was a crane operator, among some other responsibilities.

GRACE: I`m sorry. I couldn`t hear you. Repeat. He did what?

SHOEMAKER: He was a crane operator.

GRACE: OK. Were there other people around him observing him operating the crane, amongst other things?

SHOEMAKER: Yes. He was there all night. You know, there were some times, you know, based on our conversations with FDLE, that people didn`t actually see him, but they were for very short periods of time. And people saw him there all night, for the most part. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::





Now, you do have to take into consideration that people who aren't watching you wouldn't necessarily have a clear period of time in their head, could have been they thought it wasn't long or it was longer. I'd guess nobody clocked it as they would have never expected to be asked that question.

It was also Ron's lawyer who said that PDM had the fingerprint access. Guess he was telling the truth, he just neglected to say that they didn't have it in Feb.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:25:58 AM
I absolutely respect our Constitution and Bill of Rights, however I think states have trumped Federal laws when it comes to guns. Just last yr the District of Columbia had the old law overruled by the Supreme Court that no one could have a handgun and Chicago is still fighting it now:

Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court (Update3)
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By Andrew M. Harris

June 2 (Bloomberg) -- A Chicago ordinance banning handguns and automatic weapons within city limits was upheld by a U.S. Court of Appeals panel, which rejected a challenge by the National Rifle Association. The unanimous three-judge panel ruled today that a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year, which recognized an individual right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment, didn’t apply to states and municipalities.

“The Supreme Court has rebuffed requests to apply the second amendment to the states,” U.S. Circuit Judge Frank Easterbrook wrote, upholding lower court decisions last year to throw out suits against Chicago and its suburb of Oak Park, Illinois.

The Fairfax, Virginia-based NRA sued the municipalities in June 2008, one day after the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in District of Columbia v. Heller struck down a hand-gun ban in the U.S. capital district encompassing Washington.

“We clearly disagree with the court’s conclusion,” NRA attorney William N. Howard, a partner in Chicago’s Freeborn & Peters LLP, said in a telephone interview. “The next step will be an appeal to the Supreme Court.”

“We recognize that this may not be the end of this litigation,” Jenny Hoyle, a spokeswoman for the city of Chicago’s law department said, acknowledging the likelihood the NRA would seek further review. “We’re certainly prepared for that if this happens. We’re prepared to aggressively defend our ordinance.”

Second Amendment

Adopted in 1791 as part of the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment reads in its entirety: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

In Heller, the high court struck down Washington’s 32-year- old gun law, which barred most residents of the city from owning handguns
and required that all legal firearms be kept unloaded and either disassembled or under trigger lock. Six residents had challenged the law, saying they wanted firearms available in their homes for self-defense.

“Heller dealt with a law enacted under the authority of the national government,” Easterbrook wrote, “while Chicago and Oak Park are subordinate bodies of a state.”

Chicago’s law took effect in 1982, Hoyle said. While it allows ownership of long guns such as rifles, they must be registered annually with the city’s police department. Concealed weapons, semi-automatic and automatic weapons are not permitted.

Some exemptions apply to members of the military and law enforcement agencies.

Following Precedent

Chicago U.S. District Judge Milton Shadur on Dec. 4 rejected the NRA’s request that he apply the Heller ruling to the Chicago and Oak Park laws, stating he was bound to follow a 1982 appeals court ruling upholding a ban by the Illinois village of Morton Grove.

That decision came from the U.S. Court of Appeals in Chicago, the same body that issued today’s opinion. The 15 judges of the Seventh Circuit hear appeals from the federal courts of Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin.

Easterbrook, joined by Circuit Court Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer, said they, too, were bound to follow the precedent of a higher court, the U.S. Supreme Court, in its ruling on the Second Amendment not applying to states.

An appellate court departure from high court precedent “undermines the uniformity of national law,” Easterbrook wrote.

The judges rendered their ruling one week after hearing arguments.

Applicable Law

A San Francisco-based federal appeals court, with jurisdiction over cases from California, Oregon, Washington and six other Western U.S. states, in April ruled the Second Amendment can be read as applicable to states and counties.

Still, the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals’ decision in Nordyke v. King allowed to stand an Alameda County, California regulation that outlaws gun possession on county property.

Howard, the NRA’s lawyer, cited the Nordyke ruling as one of the reasons for his client’s challenge to the Chicago court outcome.

“This thing is headed for the Supreme Court,” University of Chicago Constitutional Law Professor Richard Epstein said in a phone interview.

“This is a question where you cannot run a split administration and there’s no way the circuits can resolve this amongst themselves,” he said.

The 7th Circuit case is National Rifle Association of America v. City of Chicago, 08-4241, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit (Chicago). The 9th Circuit case is Nordyke v. King, 07-15763, in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit (San Francisco).

To contact the reporter on this story: Andrew M. Harris at the federal court in Chicago at aharris16@bloomberg.net.

Last Updated: June 2, 2009 17:16 EDT

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=awIn1M4tWxi8&refer=worldwide


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:27:52 AM
Going over the NG transcripts and this relates to my last post from LLM Papa, I had never heard this before:

GRACE: OK. Terry, what did he do for a living? What was it exactly he did there?

SHOEMAKER: He was a crane operator, among some other responsibilities.

GRACE: I`m sorry. I couldn`t hear you. Repeat. He did what?

SHOEMAKER: He was a crane operator.

GRACE: OK. Were there other people around him observing him operating the crane, amongst other things?

SHOEMAKER: Yes. He was there all night. You know, there were some times, you know, based on our conversations with FDLE, that people didn`t actually see him, but they were for very short periods of time. And people saw him there all night, for the most part. ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::





Now, you do have to take into consideration that people who aren't watching you wouldn't necessarily have a clear period of time in their head, could have been they thought it wasn't long or it was longer. I'd guess nobody clocked it as they would have never expected to be asked that question.

It was also Ron's lawyer who said that PDM had the fingerprint access. Guess he was telling the truth, he just neglected to say that they didn't have it in Feb.

If I read correctly I think they had it, but it wasn't working properly so they used a back up system.......... ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Honestly who knows anymore, that bolded section was just the first time I'd ever heard that stmt.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 13, 2009, 01:38:38 AM
If anyone is interested please pray for a sweet little girl named Jessica , she is on her final journey here on earth and Wednesday is her 11th birthday. Her website is...... http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/jessicaeasley.... if you would like to read her story. I have followed her journey for a long while now.

God Bless all the children tonight and always!
I hate it when kids get this disease. I did play therapy volunteer work years ago in our Childrens Hospital just for one summer and it was heartbreaking.
TY for posting that. I needed that. I was in a whiney feeling sorry for myself mood most of the day. I did go and visit my GD and babysat ( well, watched her sleep ) and I came home feeling better. Nite all.
..
I want some kind of results out of PCSD. Not Art Harris /Cobra/ Blogger tid bits stir it up mud slinging. There has to be something wrong with them down there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 01:46:28 AM
I absolutely respect our Constitution and Bill of Rights, however I think states have trumped Federal laws when it comes to guns. Just last yr the District of Columbia had the old law overruled by the Supreme Court that no one could have a handgun and Chicago is still fighting it now:

Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court (Update3)
Share | Email | Print | A A A

By Andrew M. Harris

June 2 (Bloomberg) -- A Chicago ordinance banning handguns and automatic weapons within city limits was upheld by a U.S. Court of Appeals panel, which rejected a challenge by the National Rifle Association. The unanimous three-judge panel ruled today that a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year, which recognized an individual right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment, didn’t apply to states and municipalities.

“The Supreme Court has rebuffed requests to apply the second amendment to the states,” U.S. Circuit Judge Frank Easterbrook wrote, upholding lower court decisions last year to throw out suits against Chicago and its suburb of Oak Park, Illinois.

The Fairfax, Virginia-based NRA sued the municipalities in June 2008, one day after the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in District of Columbia v. Heller struck down a hand-gun ban in the U.S. capital district encompassing Washington.

“We clearly disagree with the court’s conclusion,” NRA attorney William N. Howard, a partner in Chicago’s Freeborn & Peters LLP, said in a telephone interview. “The next step will be an appeal to the Supreme Court.”

“We recognize that this may not be the end of this litigation,” Jenny Hoyle, a spokeswoman for the city of Chicago’s law department said, acknowledging the likelihood the NRA would seek further review. “We’re certainly prepared for that if this happens. We’re prepared to aggressively defend our ordinance.”

Second Amendment

Adopted in 1791 as part of the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment reads in its entirety: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

In Heller, the high court struck down Washington’s 32-year- old gun law, which barred most residents of the city from owning handguns
and required that all legal firearms be kept unloaded and either disassembled or under trigger lock. Six residents had challenged the law, saying they wanted firearms available in their homes for self-defense.

“Heller dealt with a law enacted under the authority of the national government,” Easterbrook wrote, “while Chicago and Oak Park are subordinate bodies of a state.”

Chicago’s law took effect in 1982, Hoyle said. While it allows ownership of long guns such as rifles, they must be registered annually with the city’s police department. Concealed weapons, semi-automatic and automatic weapons are not permitted.

Some exemptions apply to members of the military and law enforcement agencies.

Following Precedent

Chicago U.S. District Judge Milton Shadur on Dec. 4 rejected the NRA’s request that he apply the Heller ruling to the Chicago and Oak Park laws, stating he was bound to follow a 1982 appeals court ruling upholding a ban by the Illinois village of Morton Grove.

That decision came from the U.S. Court of Appeals in Chicago, the same body that issued today’s opinion. The 15 judges of the Seventh Circuit hear appeals from the federal courts of Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin.

Easterbrook, joined by Circuit Court Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer, said they, too, were bound to follow the precedent of a higher court, the U.S. Supreme Court, in its ruling on the Second Amendment not applying to states.

An appellate court departure from high court precedent “undermines the uniformity of national law,” Easterbrook wrote.

The judges rendered their ruling one week after hearing arguments.

Applicable Law

A San Francisco-based federal appeals court, with jurisdiction over cases from California, Oregon, Washington and six other Western U.S. states, in April ruled the Second Amendment can be read as applicable to states and counties.

Still, the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals’ decision in Nordyke v. King allowed to stand an Alameda County, California regulation that outlaws gun possession on county property.

Howard, the NRA’s lawyer, cited the Nordyke ruling as one of the reasons for his client’s challenge to the Chicago court outcome.

“This thing is headed for the Supreme Court,” University of Chicago Constitutional Law Professor Richard Epstein said in a phone interview.

“This is a question where you cannot run a split administration and there’s no way the circuits can resolve this amongst themselves,” he said.

The 7th Circuit case is National Rifle Association of America v. City of Chicago, 08-4241, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit (Chicago). The 9th Circuit case is Nordyke v. King, 07-15763, in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit (San Francisco).

To contact the reporter on this story: Andrew M. Harris at the federal court in Chicago at aharris16@bloomberg.net.

Last Updated: June 2, 2009 17:16 EDT

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=awIn1M4tWxi8&refer=worldwide

I am surprised since The written sources of American criminal law are The U.S Constitution, which is said
to be the supreme law of the land. The Government and State each have their own
written set of constitutions which show the general organizations as well as the
limitations on their government. A states constitution cannot conflict with the U.S
constitution or federal laws. That being said, please prove to me he keeps his gun loaded and then it goes to the other part of my last post,prove he went to Misty and threatened her. That is where it is being missed. a THIRD party said he did and again, I can tell my friend or neighbor all day long I am going to harm someone else and nothing can be done. That is how the law works. The part of my post about respecting the bill of rights and US constitution was in response to the post made by someone else stating they did not care about the Bill of rights.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 01:52:59 AM
and that would be me......and again....I do not care about the bill of rights pertaining to what we are talking about here.....Jr. is the one that Im afraid for....personally, I couldnt give a flying flip about Ronald or Misty....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 02:00:10 AM
I absolutely respect our Constitution and Bill of Rights, however I think states have trumped Federal laws when it comes to guns. Just last yr the District of Columbia had the old law overruled by the Supreme Court that no one could have a handgun and Chicago is still fighting it now:

Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court (Update3)
Share | Email | Print | A A A

By Andrew M. Harris

June 2 (Bloomberg) -- A Chicago ordinance banning handguns and automatic weapons within city limits was upheld by a U.S. Court of Appeals panel, which rejected a challenge by the National Rifle Association. The unanimous three-judge panel ruled today that a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year, which recognized an individual right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment, didn’t apply to states and municipalities.

“The Supreme Court has rebuffed requests to apply the second amendment to the states,” U.S. Circuit Judge Frank Easterbrook wrote, upholding lower court decisions last year to throw out suits against Chicago and its suburb of Oak Park, Illinois.

The Fairfax, Virginia-based NRA sued the municipalities in June 2008, one day after the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in District of Columbia v. Heller struck down a hand-gun ban in the U.S. capital district encompassing Washington.

“We clearly disagree with the court’s conclusion,” NRA attorney William N. Howard, a partner in Chicago’s Freeborn & Peters LLP, said in a telephone interview. “The next step will be an appeal to the Supreme Court.”

“We recognize that this may not be the end of this litigation,” Jenny Hoyle, a spokeswoman for the city of Chicago’s law department said, acknowledging the likelihood the NRA would seek further review. “We’re certainly prepared for that if this happens. We’re prepared to aggressively defend our ordinance.”

Second Amendment

Adopted in 1791 as part of the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment reads in its entirety: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

In Heller, the high court struck down Washington’s 32-year- old gun law, which barred most residents of the city from owning handguns
and required that all legal firearms be kept unloaded and either disassembled or under trigger lock. Six residents had challenged the law, saying they wanted firearms available in their homes for self-defense.

“Heller dealt with a law enacted under the authority of the national government,” Easterbrook wrote, “while Chicago and Oak Park are subordinate bodies of a state.”

Chicago’s law took effect in 1982, Hoyle said. While it allows ownership of long guns such as rifles, they must be registered annually with the city’s police department. Concealed weapons, semi-automatic and automatic weapons are not permitted.

Some exemptions apply to members of the military and law enforcement agencies.

Following Precedent

Chicago U.S. District Judge Milton Shadur on Dec. 4 rejected the NRA’s request that he apply the Heller ruling to the Chicago and Oak Park laws, stating he was bound to follow a 1982 appeals court ruling upholding a ban by the Illinois village of Morton Grove.

That decision came from the U.S. Court of Appeals in Chicago, the same body that issued today’s opinion. The 15 judges of the Seventh Circuit hear appeals from the federal courts of Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin.

Easterbrook, joined by Circuit Court Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer, said they, too, were bound to follow the precedent of a higher court, the U.S. Supreme Court, in its ruling on the Second Amendment not applying to states.

An appellate court departure from high court precedent “undermines the uniformity of national law,” Easterbrook wrote.

The judges rendered their ruling one week after hearing arguments.

Applicable Law

A San Francisco-based federal appeals court, with jurisdiction over cases from California, Oregon, Washington and six other Western U.S. states, in April ruled the Second Amendment can be read as applicable to states and counties.

Still, the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals’ decision in Nordyke v. King allowed to stand an Alameda County, California regulation that outlaws gun possession on county property.

Howard, the NRA’s lawyer, cited the Nordyke ruling as one of the reasons for his client’s challenge to the Chicago court outcome.

“This thing is headed for the Supreme Court,” University of Chicago Constitutional Law Professor Richard Epstein said in a phone interview.

“This is a question where you cannot run a split administration and there’s no way the circuits can resolve this amongst themselves,” he said.

The 7th Circuit case is National Rifle Association of America v. City of Chicago, 08-4241, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit (Chicago). The 9th Circuit case is Nordyke v. King, 07-15763, in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit (San Francisco).

To contact the reporter on this story: Andrew M. Harris at the federal court in Chicago at aharris16@bloomberg.net.

Last Updated: June 2, 2009 17:16 EDT

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=awIn1M4tWxi8&refer=worldwide

I am surprised since The written sources of American criminal law are The U.S Constitution, which is said
to be the supreme law of the land. The Government and State each have their own
written set of constitutions which show the general organizations as well as the
limitations on their government. A states constitution cannot conflict with the U.S
constitution or federal laws.
That being said, please prove to me he keeps his gun loaded and then it goes to the other part of my last post,prove he went to Misty and threatened her. That is where it is being missed. a THIRD party said he did and again, I can tell my friend or neighbor all day long I am going to harm someone else and nothing can be done. That is how the law works. The part of my post about respecting the bill of rights and US constitution was in response to the post made by someone else stating they did not care about the Bill of rights.


The bolded part I agree, I think these laws of not being able to own a gun are unconstitutional, and the DC hangun ban case went all the way to the Supreme Court an won by a 5/4 margin IIRC, too close for my comfort.

I already posted upthread we have no way of kowing if it was loaded or not and lastly, I'd have to look up the exact statutes in florida about threats because I know of many cases where school kids were threatening to harm others and arrested, but it's too late tonight for me to go find the states they happened in or the statutes, I'll work on it later today.

Night all


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 02:02:21 AM
Well, Im off to bed in a few, but let me say that I dont care about any bill of rights, or anything else, all I care about is HaLeigh and getting Jr. to a safe place, Jr. has rights too, and I think if asked he would say, please take the gun away from my dad, I dont want him to shoot someone or himself.........Ronald doesnt have the right to bear arms if he is gonna threaten everyone around him with it, its against the law to have a gun in the house with a small child and not keep it locked up.....yes it is.......and so therefore he should have that gun taken away........I can guarantee you if Jr,. was to get that gun and shoot it and hurt himself or someone else ....Ronald will be arrested......and the gun then taken .......and that would be too late......


Thank you for that IM, I was checking on my foster daughter and the baby, he is so cute and I just fixed him a bottle and fed him and put him back in his little basinette beside his Mother,,,.....

   A 8 year old boy shot a friend of his in the leg with his fathers gun around here a year or so ago and yep....the father was arrested for not having the gun locked up and the bullets in a seperate place from the gun......

I researched this and posted my findings. It is just a page or so back.

I respectfully request that you show me the law or ordinance that pertains to Putnam County.

I do, however, think it should be a law everywhere, as i stated in my post.

Sadly, it is not.

I just posted the Florida statute about gun storage above..........what we don't know however whether or not he keeps it loaded, then there is the law posted up about 3 post.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 02:04:11 AM
Well, Im off to bed in a few, but let me say that I dont care about any bill of rights, or anything else, all I care about is HaLeigh and getting Jr. to a safe place, Jr. has rights too, and I think if asked he would say, please take the gun away from my dad, I dont want him to shoot someone or himself.........Ronald doesnt have the right to bear arms if he is gonna threaten everyone around him with it, its against the law to have a gun in the house with a small child and not keep it locked up.....yes it is.......and so therefore he should have that gun taken away........I can guarantee you if Jr,. was to get that gun and shoot it and hurt himself or someone else ....Ronald will be arrested......and the gun then taken .......and that would be too late......


Thank you for that IM, I was checking on my foster daughter and the baby, he is so cute and I just fixed him a bottle and fed him and put him back in his little basinette beside his Mother,,,.....

   A 8 year old boy shot a friend of his in the leg with his fathers gun around here a year or so ago and yep....the father was arrested for not having the gun locked up and the bullets in a seperate place from the gun......

I researched this and posted my findings. It is just a page or so back.

I respectfully request that you show me the law or ordinance that pertains to Putnam County.

I do, however, think it should be a law everywhere, as i stated in my post.

Sadly, it is not.

I just posted the Florida statute about gun storage above..........what we don't know however whether or not he keeps it loaded, then there is the law posted up about 3 post.
Thank you for that IM, I was checking on my foster daughter and the baby, he is so cute and I just fixed him a bottle and fed him and put him back in his little basinette beside his Mother,,,.....

   A 8 year old boy shot a friend of his in the leg with his fathers gun around here a year or so ago and yep....the father was arrested for not having the gun locked up and the bullets in a seperate place from the gun..


oopppss, I posted in the middle of your post, guess it is time to go to bed...lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2009, 06:36:10 AM
ron, why would you warn misty?  why would you care?  if DB could get answers from misty that you couldn't get, wouldn't you be happy?  why blow her cover?

it must be that her cover is COVERING you
I believe that also O4B, if he was really interested in Misty telling the truth he wouldnt care who she was hanging with or talking too, every time he turns around he is taking up for Misty, and then some wonder why Crystal cant stand united with him in the search for HaLeigh, and with all this doubt being placed on him and his actions, heck I wouldnt wanna stand beside him either because on the other side of him would stand Misty and I couldnt take being within breathing distance of her.....
it's all nice in theory but highly unrealistic at this point.  there's no way in he77 I'd trust anyone on ron's side when not a single one of them has stood up for Haleigh.  when they've aligned themselves with the ONE person who could help find the truth about Haleigh instead of demanding she tell the truth, what good would it do? 

AMEN~That's exactly what I've been stating all night.


FROM LLM Papa over at H4H:


Now, back in February, there was over time a plenty for most everyone...working 10 and 12 hour shifts, again, depending on where they worked in the plant. Back then, the second shift started at 4:30pm!!!

Let me start at the beginning of our conversation. Starting salary for anyone is what he believes is 12-12.99 an hour. That's whether you begin as a janitor or a welder or a painter ...whatever.

The clock in system that they have for employees NOW is a whole lot different than what they had back in February!!!! Now they have a laser time card where you have to insert the last four digits of your S.S. # and then SCAN your entire hand. Quite sophisticated stuff NOW. However....back in February, they had a time card that was done on the computer and it DID NOT ALWAYS WORK. It was common for workers to have to go back and 'clock' in when the computer was back up and running or to have co-workers do it for them, if they were busy. I asked if it was possible back then for workers to slip in or out and he quickly said, "oh yeah, no problem, guys did it all the time." There is parking that isn't within the gated/guard area, down by heavy fabrication, but not many people use that area to park in.

There is ONE guard on duty. They stay in the guard shack and only check to make sure that you are an employee of PDM. They don't check bags going in to the plant or going out. That is all that they do. There are lots of surveilance cameras all over the place, but for the most part, they're located towards the front of the plant, like where the admin/office is located and entrances areas, with lots of 'blind areas'. There are cameras inside the fabrication buildings, to fight off theft, he said.

HOWEVER, out in the yard, there are few cameras there and in the back, North 40, which is what they call the area of the yard that RC worked in, driving a crane and MOSTLY a forklift. This area is dark at night. Pitchblack dark and no lighting in area. It also is swamp land just before the river in this area. When anyone on second shift had to go in that area, they had to use their flashlights. This plant is so close to the river and it's swampland area that it is not uncommon he said to have 6 foot gators come into the=2 0yard and water moccasins are commonly found, even within the open ended fabrication buildings! He said that you go back towards the N. 40/swamp and wooded area and it's nothing to see gator eyes everywhere near and in the water. Said that they've had plenty of gators, too many to count come in the yard. He said the parking lot that is fenced and guarded is lit near the front where the guard shack is located. However it is pretty dark further back, towards the northend of parking lot...AND it is accessible by anyone who is already within the plant/yard area WITHOUT having to go by the guard up front where one drives in and out. HMMMMM There are NO CAMERAS in the North 40/swamp wooded area and it is DARK there...he mentioned this more than once! He said this is the area that RC worked.

He clocked in at one of the two time clock locations...one is in Bay 1 heavy fabrication bldg. and the other is in Bay 2, paint, etc. I asked about the lunch time and he said that the yard crew got pretty much whatever they wanted, bunch of slackers for the most part and RC was part of the 'yard crew'. They could take 1 hour for lunch and no one would know...not like the guys who worked in the fab. buildings, where supervision was a little more stricter.

So, there you have it, for what it's worth! I have notes that I jotted down, looked over and don't think I left anything out. Hope this answers some of your questions.

Have a good week!







This was an email he got from his source, you can read it all there:

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=23.4410

Good Morning,

Thank-you for re-posting Papa's excellent and detailed work information.  Mr. Shoemaker's job is not easy when so many brillant,
persistent and gutsy bloggers who are investigating and researching PDM Bridge.

NG assumed FAB took an hour and a half to be the culprit, (she of coarse didn't say culprit).


1. What if FAB cut out of work and showed up to the Threesome House, is that a shorter distance?

2. What If M. met him outside of PDM Bridge Co?

3. What if he saw you on the road when he was inroute to the M.H?

4.  FAB's (cell phone) picked up her caller ID from a land phone?  Did she call him from a land phone, when he was a work,
    (her cell phone was off because of the pings) a Caller I.D. (may have been on  a land phone) and he left work and head over?

5. She wasn't at home so FAB may not needed an hour and a half like NG is thinking, I am thinking where ever MC was he knew and
    caught her and did the job and returned to werk.

We need to reach far for a theory, because, he is a snake. IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 07:11:04 AM
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091013/ARTICLES/910129904/1002?Title=Haleigh-stepmom-s-attorney-quits-case
Haleigh stepmom’s attorney quits case
Robert Fields says he warned his client against going on TV

By Karen Voyles
Staff writer

Published: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Monday, October 12, 2009 at 9:58 p.m.
The attorney who has represented Misty Croslin Cummings has stepped away from the case.

In an e-mail to The Sun on Monday morning, Robert Fields of Putnam County confirmed that he is no longer representing the stepmother of missing Haleigh Cummings.

His decision to stop representing Cummings was apparently made Friday, shortly after Cummings’ appearance on the “CBS Early Show.”

Fields reportedly advised Cummings not to appear on the nationally televised program, but she participated in an interview anyway. Within hours, Fields decided to stop representing her.
Cummings was caring for Haleigh before she disappeared from her father’s home in February. Ronald Cummings was at work when his then-5-year-old daughter vanished. Misty Cummings, who was then Ronald’s girlfriend and later married him, has said she woke in the early morning and noticed the girl was missing.

Fields’ decision to stop representing Cummings marked the third time she has made the news in a week. In the other incidents, Ronald Cummings announced he was divorcing her and she was stopped by police as part of a road rage incident.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 07:12:10 AM
I hope this is the day Haleigh finally comes home.    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 07:32:16 AM
I hope this is the day Haleigh finally comes home.    ::MonkeyAngel::
Good morning Trim!

I also hope this is the day HaLeigh finally comes home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: NCSunny on October 13, 2009, 08:12:18 AM
I just think they need to get someone in there with some brain cells and not a dang stupid azz PI like Dominic and Cobra. They need fresh eyes and someone who is not tied to that community. There should be a search every weekend. If they aren't out looking they are never going to find her. She didn't just get beamed up in a spaceship.

I think this should have been done 8 months ago. Why wait until 8 months have passed?



It really should have Brandi......This has just gone on to long. She will be found the same way most are...just someone will stumble upon her one day.

I just can't understand why LE seems to not give a d@mn. And something else that would help is the media to just quit reporting Ron and Misty's shenanigan's. Do not have them on, do not write about them ....nothing, nada.zip. Just keep reminding people that Haleigh is missing. Let the money and trips dry up. They contribute absolutely nothing to any interview. So why keep talking about them. IT is about Haleigh!!!!!


~snipped for space~ from Darla
It really should have Brandi......This has just gone on to long. She will be found the same way most are...just someone will stumble upon her one day.

I just can't understand why LE seems to not give a d@mn. And something else that would help is the media to just quit reporting Ron and Misty's shenanigan's. Do not have them on, do not write about them ....nothing, nada.zip. Just keep reminding people that Haleigh is missing. Let the money and trips dry up. They contribute absolutely nothing to any interview. So why keep talking about them. IT is about Haleigh!!!!!


Morning Monkeys & guests

 ::MonkeyGavel::  ITA Darla, its time to stop giving them the time of day & just remind everyone that Haleigh is still missing !!

Seems the more attention they get the crazier they act.

Think this should be post of the day!  ::MonkeyKiss::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 08:16:13 AM
Making false accusations of abuse is a crime in the state of Florida, so you best be real sure you KNOW it is a fact before you report it.  about 8 hours ago from web

Sometimes people will just believe anything. NEWS FLASH Only One walked on water, and it was not Tim Miller.  about 8 hours ago from web

Maybe that rifle was in somebody elses closest that TM hangs out at, maybe somebody who's hubby is retired military.  about 8 hours ago from web

And just as a heads up, Jr does not share the room with Ron and Misty. He has his own room.about 8 hours ago from web

hangnon2hope So LE has been in Ms Sykes home how many times? Even took Ron out of the bedroom and got his gun but did not see this assault rifle. RIGHT!  about 8 hours ago from web

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 13, 2009, 08:16:19 AM
Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.



How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.


That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also. ::MonkeyRoll::

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.


Ok, first TN and RC request the help of Mark Nejame and TM.

Then GG Sykes was going to throw Misty out of a window if she did not do the poly according to TM.

Then MC and RC got upset after the Misty's results were revealed by TM and associates and did not want to have any more to do with him.

According to TM RC revealed to him the Tommy Croslin's mailbox headless rat gift. saying he was testing Misty to see how well she could lie.

Then Misty decides to go to Orlando with her new found friend, sugar mama Donna Brock of Equusearch, who they just a couple of weeks earlier said they (RC and MC) said they wanted nothing to do with anymore. Did not RC and MC know at this time that Donna Brock was with Equusearch?  Why would MC trust DB?  Was the money (chump change) too much of a temptation, or is MC just that dumb?

Then along comes TN claiming that her boyfriend funded MC's Orlando Universal Studio trip in which Ronald was suppose to meet MC. Was it really in the plan for Ronald to meet MC in Orlando or was it an after thought for some reason.

Did TN's boyfriend fund the first Orlando trip as TN stated on NG or did TM?

Where was it that RC and Jr met up with Misty so that Jr could enjoy a moment of childhood without the media spotlights or was that the real reason RC met with Misty?

Who funded RC and Jr's little vacation, was it TN, Ronald's unemployment funds, or TN'S boyfriend?

Why did TN say that MC's new found friend was paying for everything and that the friend's husband is independently wealthy?  Was TN not aware of what was going on with TM and DB prior to DB's cover being blown.

Why after Donna Brock's cover was blown did TN come clean with who funded at least the second trip?

Why would RC text message MC while she is on the set at CBS to warn her that DB was undecover snitch mama?

All I have to say about all of the above is that if RC, MC, TN and GG Sykes is that blind and stupid, and still are capable of holding Putnam LE at bay for 8 months, there is no hope for Satsuma/Palatka. 

And no little, lovely HaLeigh never had a chance.

Was




Good morning Monkeys!
Heart I intended to respond to this excellent post of yours last night.  Went to lay down for a bit...and the rest is history, but it's great to get a good nights sleep.

Can this story and the players get any more convoluted!?

How many more lies will be thrust on the public?

God bless little Haleigh and bring her home.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2009, 08:28:07 AM
Good Morning Brillant Monkeys,

This is how I think he did it...he was at work, that is where I project the incident occured.  He is so cocky with a smirk of assurance he was at work, this is where I am assuming the tragedy occured on or near the grounds.

The 20 calls he made could have been for a pack of smokes, anyone whoever smoked cigerettes knows how desperate you are without smokes. People would rather give the shirt of their backs before they give you a cigerette, this is where the physical evidence may come into play, she may be on a store video or a cigerette reciept for the smokes. Did she drop off the smokes to him and they got into a hassle again? 

This is what it sounds like to me, it happened, he wuz at werk, and she may have visited him dropped off ciggies and what happened from there...

I knew a guy who had the same exact smirk on his face, the guy said he was divorced, he was divorced and also remarried...when guys tell you something it is true but also deceptive, it is true FAB was a work and also may be true the incident happened outside the gate or outside the grounds. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 13, 2009, 09:22:05 AM
guys my opinionabout the donna thing....  misty kne wwho she was... she was on her ms friends and since misty i'm sure just looks at pictures since she cannot read (LOL)... she no doubt knew exactly who donna was... as far as ron texting either to kiss up to misty like to reel her back in so he could again keep his enemy close again or to make it seem like she didn't know who she was before... which she did.. if that is the case then it lends credibility to maybe misty telling donna the "truth" since she supposedly didn't know she should lie to her ... make it seem like you trust someone and are opening up to someone for the sole purpose of disinformation....
jmo
but she definitely knew exactly who donna was and her tes connection... without a doubt

hey penny!

I remember before Donna set her page private, I did see Misty listed as a friend.

Good point.

I also believe Misty knew exactly who Donna was when they went away together.

And Misty is no street fool. I believe she also knew what and what not to tell Donna.

JMO.



I think you're so right about Misty knowing what she was doing.......None of this was a surprise to her.

Great possibilty, but that still begs the question of why Ron texted her to tell her about Donna being a plant? D@mn, I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that house tonight, wherever they are staying ::MonkeyConfused::
like i said so that he can kiss up to misty by acting like he is looking out for her and believes her.. like hey misty look out she is a plant... and since this "cover is now blown" maybe he will reel her back into the relationship to keep his enemy close again
(because he didn't have anything to do with it but knows misty did)
or
it was to make it seem like she never knew... that way anything she told donna must have been the truth because she never knew she was a plant which is total bs because imo she definitely knew and was very careful what she "opened" up and told her
(because ron is using misty to cover his a$$ or he is covering her @ss for some reason)

More importantly how do we know he texted her???? and why do we know that?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 09:26:31 AM
Heart,
I have to tell you a story that pertains to my last post.  DH and I were out of town a few years ago and were seated a few tables away from the most annoying, loud, arrogant man who talked so loudly I couldn't hear my own children speaking to me.  It was early and I was grumpy because I can't stand obnoxious men and he was ruining my time with my family and we were on "vacation".  To make a bad situation even worse, when he got up to leave he walked past my table and gave me the "you know you want me" look.  He was coming on to me with my DH right there (although his back was to this jerk).  I said something not so nice and the guy then said " F you and your mother".  My DH was in his face in about 2 seconds saying "don't you EVER talk like that to my wife".  Then he told the guy to take it outside.  Right then and there this chicken snit dialed 911 and told them he was at Denny's, gave the address and described my DH down to the color of his shirt.  He said "this man will be dead when you get here and I killed him."
I called 911 then and reported the man, describing him down to his shoes and told them he had threatened to kill my husband and to send the police immediately.  The restaurant had already called in on him!  There were 3 of us in the restaurant on with 911 at the same time.  The whole restaurant was going nuts!!  My kids were crying because the man said he was going to kill my DH.

OMG!  Can I tell you this was very scary!  Anyway, they took the man's gun out of his car and stayed there until we had plenty of time to leave.  The LE there told my DH they may take his gun because he threatened my DH to the 911 operator but there apparently were no charges filed.  If he had done that in my state, he would have been arrested.  It's called premeditation!

Anyway, after that long story, my point is that depending on Florida laws, they may or may not have a right to take ron's gun.  However, they have more than enough reason to remove Jr. since ron sounds very unstable.  IMO

Thanks O4Bull for telling me your story. Yes there are some unstable people in this world, and some so unstable that they will take another's life.  I have had a few of my own experiences with nutjobs. RC might just be one of them right about now due to his daughter missing and/or whatever else.

However in this situation I wonder if it was that alarming to TM, did TM relay this info to LE out of his concern for Butterbean and others safety. If not, why? And if not reported to LE why is TM telling AH and TJ?

I was thinking last night, if RC was such a  badazz and off the chain, why he did not get his assault rifle or handgun and blow those Croslins off his grandma's property the night that they went there supposedly to get Misty. It was reported at one point GG Sykes made RC go in the house, but then he returned to finish the the pummeling.  Why during this fit of rage no bang, bang, but instead two rounds of fisticuffs?

Personally I do not believe in having guns in the house when there are children in the home. Accidents happen.  I never had or allowed guns in my home when my children lived at home.

And yes, it is very sad that Butterbean has to go through this, it is sad that all the innocent individuals involved have to go through this. Hopefully now some eyes will be opened within these families. 

I guess everything will come out in the wash, I hope sooner rather than later.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cherjers on October 13, 2009, 09:26:44 AM
Good Morning Monkeys-have been lurking on this thread you monkeys do great work!  Just keeping the players straight  makes my head spin. ::MonkeyConfused:: Who had a reason to kill or take Haleigh- We know why KC killed Caylee-to be free.  Could it be that Misty took a page for KC book and drudged Haleigh and JR-so she could go out and they would not wake up.--Haleigh was a sick child so she could have died form any  drug that Misty gave her- So my question to all you mokneys-did they ever test junior for drugs- I just dont see any other reason for MIsty or Ron to hurt Haleigh-dont get me wrong -they should be held resonsible for whatever happened to her-she was in their care-just dont know why these type of people have children-when they care so little for them ::MonkeyMad::  I will go back to lurking


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 09:53:10 AM
SHOEMAKER: Yes. He was there all night. You know, there were some times, you know, based on our conversations with FDLE, that people didn`t actually see him, but they were for very short periods of time. And people saw him there all night, for the most part.   ::MonkeyEek::  If he was trying to sound convincing he lost at it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 10:04:55 AM
#  LisaE Says:
October 13th, 2009 at 1:09 am

Hi Art,
Great story, but it’s killing me…,why did Tim Miller reveal to a radio station…Donna Brock’s real motive for befriending Misty? Didn’t Misty meet Donna Brock through her dealings with Tim Miller?
If so, why spill the beans?

Also, why didn’t Tim Miller give Ron a polygraph as well when he gave Misty one, with the same reasoning: that he wanted to rule out their involvement before they used Texas Equusearch’s financial resources to search for Haleigh?
Ron’s 20 unanswered phone calls to Misty combined with his making a detour to a convenience store on the way home from work makes no sense to me whatsoever! As a parent, I would have gone straight home to check on my kids.

- LisaE

Lisa–excellent points…TIM TOLD ME IT WAS AN ORLANDO STATION, NOT ONE I RECOGNIZED, AND THAT HE DIDN’T REVEAL IT, BUT THEY BROKE IT–FOUND DONNA’S NAME ON A LIST OF TE VOLUNTEERS…AND TIM LATER CONFIRMED…He says once the road rage happened, it ruined the undercover operation, so no need to hide anymore, and he released me from a promise to keep sources confidential…says for now he’s only speaking on the record with me and Steph Watts, and has turned down numerous requests for network interviews in the last couple of weeks…so stay tuned to The Bald Truth for Tim’s updates. Art
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comment-40205


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 10:05:47 AM
 And just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water, Player (Or whoever he really is  ::MonkeyRoll::) appears in the rumor thread at WS. I really thought that he was done with his nonsense, guess not  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 10:08:54 AM
#  Eliza Says:
October 13th, 2009 at 12:26 am

Thanks for the update Art! Based on the information about Ron, I am guessing that Misty may be too afraid to tell what she knows.

It could be that Misty went out for awhile and came home to find Haleigh missing. Misty may be afraid that Ron will use that machine gun on her for leaving the kids alone.

Why is Ron allowed to have an unlocked machine gun? I thought it was illegal for private citizens to own machine guns?
——-
E–I didn’t say machine guns, but assault rifle, likely semi automatic. that’s not illegal, and you can fire it as fast as you can pull the trigger…art
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comment-40204


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 10:10:59 AM
Making false accusations of abuse is a crime in the state of Florida, so you best be real sure you KNOW it is a fact before you report it.  about 8 hours ago from web

Sometimes people will just believe anything. NEWS FLASH Only One walked on water, and it was not Tim Miller.  about 8 hours ago from web

Maybe that rifle was in somebody elses closest that TM hangs out at, maybe somebody who's hubby is retired military.  about 8 hours ago from web

And just as a heads up, Jr does not share the room with Ron and Misty. He has his own room.about 8 hours ago from web

hangnon2hope So LE has been in Ms Sykes home how many times? Even took Ron out of the bedroom and got his gun but did not see this assault rifle. RIGHT!  about 8 hours ago from web

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

I take whatever hangnon2hope says, she was the one who stated that TN NEVER wanted TES to come in and search for Haleigh after the last announcement to do so, she said that TN contacted MN and he pulled in TM, but didn't want him to do the search because she believes HaLeigh is alive...............SO reminds me of Cindy anthony.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 10:14:03 AM
Lani Says:
October 12th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

Seems to me the most logical suspect would be the mothers sides of the family. I mean I read he had custody for three years and she wanted it bad. So bad she even just up and took the kids and he had to go back to court for her to give them back. The FBI should be checking every relative of the mother and every farm house, hen house, out house. It they have not then why not the “Other Side”. I look for motive and that is where it is.
—–
Lani–nothing going on re the sheffields…misty blowing smoke…been cleared long ago. but Crystal’s sister, Sarah, we just learned was arrested today for violating her probation on a DUI charge and will go before a judge in Jacksonville Oct. 13… art
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comment-40199


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 10:16:50 AM
#  Kim Says:
October 12th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

Art, Let me start of by saying that I am not trying to criticize your journalism…But I do have a qestion…In this article where it stated that Tim Miller said that Ron JR was in the room when the gun incident occured…Did this come right from Tims mouth…The reason I ask is because I had heard an interview he gave about that incident and at no time did he mention JR being in the room…If it is true that JR was there, I feel that a call to DCF is in need of being done to get JR out of what could be a very dangerous situation…Do you know first hand if anyone has called DCF regarding this incident?
———-
Kim–I hope you know by now that if I say someone said it, they said it…did you ever consider that another reporter may not have asked the question, was JR was in the room or present when he allegedly pulled the gun stunt, and I did? God is in the details, and that’s what I hope you get here. We report, you decide, wink. Art
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comment-40197



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 10:17:20 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Kimmer!! That weapon will be in my possession this week. That is one of the things Ron and I spoke of and he is getting rid of it. He is somewhat of a hot head, however he "usually thinks thngs out prettty good first" . Once he says something he can't take it back, however after he thinks for a few seconds it's something like "that was really dumb". He wouldn't do anything like that. I pretty much know him. FYI I have always maintained that Misty holds the key. I have been seeing a side of her that I never saw before. When they lived nextdoor she was the doding little sitter, Now she seems to be caught up in the cause de celeb. I had never known her to lie, but now I see one after the other. The press and LE are calling them "inconsistencies",,  ::MonkeyRoll::  Yeah, that's right let him have the weapon, that would make sense


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 10:20:19 AM
SHOEMAKER: Yes. He was there all night. You know, there were some times, you know, based on our conversations with FDLE, that people didn`t actually see him, but they were for very short periods of time. And people saw him there all night, for the most part.   ::MonkeyEek::  If he was trying to sound convincing he lost at it.
::MonkeyDevil2:: ::MonkeyDevil2::

I notice that myself in the transcipts and posted it last night.............that was the first time I'd ever heard that and my head started spinning ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 10:22:22 AM
Making false accusations of abuse is a crime in the state of Florida, so you best be real sure you KNOW it is a fact before you report it.  about 8 hours ago from web

Sometimes people will just believe anything. NEWS FLASH Only One walked on water, and it was not Tim Miller.  about 8 hours ago from web

Maybe that rifle was in somebody elses closest that TM hangs out at, maybe somebody who's hubby is retired military.  about 8 hours ago from web

And just as a heads up, Jr does not share the room with Ron and Misty. He has his own room.about 8 hours ago from web

hangnon2hope So LE has been in Ms Sykes home how many times? Even took Ron out of the bedroom and got his gun but did not see this assault rifle. RIGHT!  about 8 hours ago from web

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

I take whatever hangnon2hope says, she was the one who stated that TN NEVER wanted TES to come in and search for Haleigh after the last announcement to do so, she said that TN contacted MN and he pulled in TM, but didn't want him to do the search because she believes HaLeigh is alive...............SO reminds me of Cindy anthony.

Could be, however I believe that even TN was searching herself (not for a live HaLeigh) and asked Cobra to search in a wooded area much earlier  than when TM was bought in for his second time. Remember all the hoopla regarding TN trying to set Cobra up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 10:27:27 AM
#  think Says:
October 12th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

Whether Misty or anyone is ever arrested or charged with a crime remains up in the air, but at least for a time, if she ever winds up behind bars, Misty Croslin Cummings can say she got a taste of the good life, with mini-makeovers, hair and nails, a little spoiling, and a sympathetic shoulder to cry on and confide in, thanks to Miller and TE special agent Donna Brock. \

Oh please so now Tim and Donna want the world to see them as heros. People who saved Misty.. Does child abuse ring a bell you too minipulating a child into a going against her attorny.. nice.. How could either of u live with yourself.. So much of Tims story sounds like more lies..

Think–Suggest you start thinking…Never have known Tim to say anything that wasn’t straight on…Sounds like you didn’t get it…Art
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comment-40192



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 10:39:44 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Kimmer!! That weapon will be in my possession this week. That is one of the things Ron and I spoke of and he is getting rid of it. He is somewhat of a hot head, however he "usually thinks thngs out prettty good first" . Once he says something he can't take it back, however after he thinks for a few seconds it's something like "that was really dumb". He wouldn't do anything like that. I pretty much know him. FYI I have always maintained that Misty holds the key. I have been seeing a side of her that I never saw before. When they lived nextdoor she was the doding little sitter, Now she seems to be caught up in the cause de celeb. I had never known her to lie, but now I see one after the other. The press and LE are calling them "inconsistencies",,  ::MonkeyRoll::  Yeah, that's right let him have the weapon, that would make sense


 ::MonkeyTongue:: Last time he was on a roll posting, he also said that Ronald, Misty, Jr and TN were going to be staying with him......right!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 10:41:11 AM
Making false accusations of abuse is a crime in the state of Florida, so you best be real sure you KNOW it is a fact before you report it.  about 8 hours ago from web

Sometimes people will just believe anything. NEWS FLASH Only One walked on water, and it was not Tim Miller.  about 8 hours ago from web

Maybe that rifle was in somebody elses closest that TM hangs out at, maybe somebody who's hubby is retired military.  about 8 hours ago from web

And just as a heads up, Jr does not share the room with Ron and Misty. He has his own room.about 8 hours ago from web

hangnon2hope So LE has been in Ms Sykes home how many times? Even took Ron out of the bedroom and got his gun but did not see this assault rifle. RIGHT!  about 8 hours ago from web

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope

I take whatever hangnon2hope says, she was the one who stated that TN NEVER wanted TES to come in and search for Haleigh after the last announcement to do so, she said that TN contacted MN and he pulled in TM, but didn't want him to do the search because she believes HaLeigh is alive...............SO reminds me of Cindy anthony.

Could be, however I believe that even TN was searching herself (not for a live HaLeigh) and asked Cobra to search in a wooded area much earlier  than when TM was bought in for his second time. Remember all the hoopla regarding TN trying to set Cobra up.


That's why I take this person tweets with a box of salt.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 10:46:14 AM
any blogger on any forum is just that, a blogger with their own opinion, and their own slant on things... just depends on who you want to believe....imo...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 10:48:04 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Kimmer!! That weapon will be in my possession this week. That is one of the things Ron and I spoke of and he is getting rid of it. He is somewhat of a hot head, however he "usually thinks thngs out prettty good first" . Once he says something he can't take it back, however after he thinks for a few seconds it's something like "that was really dumb". He wouldn't do anything like that. I pretty much know him. FYI I have always maintained that Misty holds the key. I have been seeing a side of her that I never saw before. When they lived nextdoor she was the doding little sitter, Now she seems to be caught up in the cause de celeb. I had never known her to lie, but now I see one after the other. The press and LE are calling them "inconsistencies",,  ::MonkeyRoll::  Yeah, that's right let him have the weapon, that would make sense


 ::MonkeyTongue:: Last time he was on a roll posting, he also said that Ronald, Misty, Jr and TN were going to be staying with him......right!
Don't fret  ::MonkeyTongue:: they just may be living with him soon  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 10:51:10 AM
#  me Says:
October 12th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

Tim Miller really needs to get himself into a rehab asap. His “tales” are beyond ludicrous.

Why aren’t you reporting on Sarah Sheffield’s arrest and the fact she’s in Jacksonville jail? Have you seen the disgusting video she has on her website? I do hope PCSO sees it. Very very disturbing.
http://www.myspace.com/sarah32063
——–
Me–I reported her arrest a little while ago…not big news, DUI, violated probation…another sad story of a teenager with drug and alcohol and other issues. Art
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comment-40190


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 10:53:34 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Do I get a welcome back ?? No thether, no handcuffs, just Bill in Satsuma.. Player to all of my friends. Got back. 10/4. Had 2 brief encounters with local media (off camera) they didn't have a wide angle lense for me. HOPEFULLY a meeting with LE this week in Palatka. Have my March hypothesis in hand. Maybe the folks here will finally realize that I am seriously trying to find Haleigh. I spoke with Ron over the weekend and he will be working with me this week. His stock in the comunity is up and he has regained respect, The buzz here is all he wants is his child back and anyone in that way had best be prepard. Been to Meemaws 2x now and they remembered me. Cobra nope!!! LUV to all Bill     ::MonkeyEek::  Anyone else hear that Ron's stock in the community is up and he has regained respect? Because that would truly be a BOMBSHELL  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 11:00:50 AM
Am wracking my brain, trying to figure out just how Ron supposedly has regained respect in his community. 

Last I heard, Ron was called out on national tv (by NG) for being a liar. 

Is this how one regains respect in Satsuma?   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 11:01:47 AM
Am wracking my brain, trying to figure out just how Ron supposedly has regained respect in his community. 

Last I heard, Ron was called out on national tv (by NG) for being a liar. 

Is this how one regains respect in Satsuma?   ::MonkeyTongue::

In the world according to Player it is  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 11:02:49 AM
Am wracking my brain, trying to figure out just how Ron supposedly has regained respect in his community. 

Last I heard, Ron was called out on national tv (by NG) for being a liar. 

Is this how one regains respect in Satsuma?   ::MonkeyTongue::

In the world according to Player it is  ::MonkeyRoll::


::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 11:04:01 AM
Am wracking my brain, trying to figure out just how Ron supposedly has regained respect in his community. 

Last I heard, Ron was called out on national tv (by NG) for being a liar. 

Is this how one regains respect in Satsuma?   ::MonkeyTongue::


 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2009, 11:30:30 AM
SHOEMAKER: Yes. He was there all night. You know, there were some times, you know, based on our conversations with FDLE, that people didn`t actually see him, but they were for very short periods of time. And people saw him there all night, for the most part.   ::MonkeyEek::  If he was trying to sound convincing he lost at it.

He was also unloading a truck that night, because a shipment came in...I remember reading, sorry, no thread to back it up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 13, 2009, 11:38:52 AM
SHOEMAKER: Yes. He was there all night. You know, there were some times, you know, based on our conversations with FDLE, that people didn`t actually see him, but they were for very short periods of time. And people saw him there all night, for the most part.   ::MonkeyEek::  If he was trying to sound convincing he lost at it.

He was also unloading a truck that night, because a shipment came in...I remember reading, sorry, no thread to back it up.
his lawyer stated on ng that he had several tasks that night in addition to his reg crane job


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 13, 2009, 11:43:07 AM
not that it matters but not only did donna m brock go private on myspace she changed her name so that she is no longer searchable by donna brock... she is now peppermint patty LOL
here:
http://www.myspace.com/donnambrock
in case it matters but i doubt it.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 13, 2009, 11:58:25 AM
silent monkeys?????????????
that's a first lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 12:02:22 PM
not that it matters but not only did donna m brock go private on myspace she changed her name so that she is no longer searchable by donna brock... she is now peppermint patty LOL
here:
http://www.myspace.com/donnambrock
in case it matters but i doubt it.....

Thanks for the info penny!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 12:20:48 PM
O/T

DNA leads to rape suspect after 19 years, FBI says

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/13/texas.rape.arrest/

Behind The Scenes With John Walsh In Washington, D.C.
10/1/2009


Avery also sat down with John Walsh during some down time to talk about some of the cases we are looking at this week. Continuing on the pursuit of Jennifer Schuett's attacker, some new information has come to light. A different, similar crime from around the same time period and a nearby location, John believes could be linked to Jennifer's attacker, and might help provide some important clues.

"This girl is one of probably one of the bravest I've ever met in my life," says John, "and she's grown up wanting justice for years." John adds that after meeting this woman and being humbled by her courage, dignity, and desire to help other crime victims, he's personally engaged in trying to find justice for the Schuett family.
http://www.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=3566&mid=0

(http://media2.myfoxhouston.com//photo/2009/10/13/dickinson_20091013094815_320_240.JPG)

Arrest Made in 1990 Dickinson Assault

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/091013_jennifer_schuett_dickisnon

Jennifer's website

http://justiceforjennifer.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 12:23:23 PM
Haleigh Cummings – An Interview With Cobra

Posted on October 13th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in All News


William Cobra Staubs is yet another victim in the search for Haleigh Cummings. It does not seem to matter what he does, or has done, at every turn he faces adversity. As he has pointed out many times, all he was trying to do was find a missing child.

Cobra has agreed to do an interview with me to discuss the legal tangle he now finds himself in. I do not believe that most people quite understand what the case is really all about, this interview will hopefully clear up all of the misunderstandings.

This will also be an opportunity to learn a great deal about the inner workings of the bail bond industry. It is quirky to say the least. The rules and regulations are compendious and confusing.

I believe this will be a lively adventure and one that will surprise a few people.

I will be talking with Cobra at 1pm central, 2pm eastern today Oct/13 on BTR. To tune in, point your browser at www.blogtalkradio.com a few minutes before the show, you will see the link to it on the front page.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/122612


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 12:34:37 PM
HaleighNewz As of 12:30 PM ET, there has been no Divorce Petition filed in Putnam County listed on the Putnam County Clerk website. 5 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on October 13, 2009, 12:35:08 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2009, 12:38:58 PM
SHOEMAKER: Yes. He was there all night. You know, there were some times, you know, based on our conversations with FDLE, that people didn`t actually see him, but they were for very short periods of time. And people saw him there all night, for the most part.   ::MonkeyEek::  If he was trying to sound convincing he lost at it.

He was also unloading a truck that night, because a shipment came in...I remember reading, sorry, no thread to back it up.
his lawyer stated on ng that he had several tasks that night in addition to his reg crane job

He had a food break in the cafeteria. Did he get two other breaks?  Did he take the two breaks together?
We know he had a part in this this mystery, how did his swing "I wuz at verk"?   Still think she came to him at work and the
crime was in the car at verk or on the grounds, far fetched, yup, it is!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 12:39:23 PM
O/T

DNA leads to rape suspect after 19 years, FBI says

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/13/texas.rape.arrest/

Behind The Scenes With John Walsh In Washington, D.C.
10/1/2009


Avery also sat down with John Walsh during some down time to talk about some of the cases we are looking at this week. Continuing on the pursuit of Jennifer Schuett's attacker, some new information has come to light. A different, similar crime from around the same time period and a nearby location, John believes could be linked to Jennifer's attacker, and might help provide some important clues.

"This girl is one of probably one of the bravest I've ever met in my life," says John, "and she's grown up wanting justice for years." John adds that after meeting this woman and being humbled by her courage, dignity, and desire to help other crime victims, he's personally engaged in trying to find justice for the Schuett family.
http://www.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=3566&mid=0

(http://media2.myfoxhouston.com//photo/2009/10/13/dickinson_20091013094815_320_240.JPG)

Arrest Made in 1990 Dickinson Assault

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/091013_jennifer_schuett_dickisnon

Jennifer's website

http://justiceforjennifer.com/


Thanks,Heart.I put this in her Jennifer's thread.   ::MonkeyAngel::
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6114.new#new


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 12:42:11 PM
not that it matters but not only did donna m brock go private on myspace she changed her name so that she is no longer searchable by donna brock... she is now peppermint patty LOL
here:
http://www.myspace.com/donnambrock
in case it matters but i doubt it.....
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDevil:: Peppermint Patty


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2009, 12:44:55 PM
Haleigh Cummings – An Interview With Cobra

Posted on October 13th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in All News


William Cobra Staubs is yet another victim in the search for Haleigh Cummings. It does not seem to matter what he does, or has done, at every turn he faces adversity. As he has pointed out many times, all he was trying to do was find a missing child.

Cobra has agreed to do an interview with me to discuss the legal tangle he now finds himself in. I do not believe that most people quite understand what the case is really all about, this interview will hopefully clear up all of the misunderstandings.

This will also be an opportunity to learn a great deal about the inner workings of the bail bond industry. It is quirky to say the least. The rules and regulations are compendious and confusing.

I believe this will be a lively adventure and one that will surprise a few people.

I will be talking with Cobra at 1pm central, 2pm eastern today Oct/13 on BTR. To tune in, point your browser at www.blogtalkradio.com a few minutes before the show, you will see the link to it on the front page.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/122612
[/quote

Thank-you, Heart.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Miki,

You are so wonderful to give him the benefit of the doubt.  With all due respect, who said he drove home to crime a crime?
Perhaps she drove to him, brought him smokes and a scuffle occured?  Did he take two breaks together?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 12:50:54 PM
Thanks Trim!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 12:51:18 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think it's due to the most recent revelations that he warned Misty that Donna was a TES plant, whether guilty of anything to do with her bing missing, his actions create alot of suspicions. Also, I'm curious about the cell pings, if he called Misty 20 times and then Tommy why are there only 2 pings. I will never understand why he has chosen to constantly cover for Misty and even warn her that TES had planted Donna their to get information from her as I think he would want the truth to come out, yet doing what he did by texting her that info is highly suspect IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 12:52:24 PM
not that it matters but not only did donna m brock go private on myspace she changed her name so that she is no longer searchable by donna brock... she is now peppermint patty LOL
here:
http://www.myspace.com/donnambrock
in case it matters but i doubt it.....
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDevil:: Peppermint Patty

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 13, 2009, 12:52:53 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::

ITA.....Ron appears to be an insecure man who spouts off to appear tough.  I think he is dumb as a stone, but
I do not think it is even possible that he harmed HaLeigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2009, 12:53:08 PM
not that it matters but not only did donna m brock go private on myspace she changed her name so that she is no longer searchable by donna brock... she is now peppermint patty LOL
here:
http://www.myspace.com/donnambrock
in case it matters but i doubt it.....
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDevil:: Peppermint Patty

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 01:05:01 PM
HaleighNewz As of 12:30 PM ET, there has been no Divorce Petition filed in Putnam County listed on the Putnam County Clerk website. 5 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/
That's because it is a scam, imo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 13, 2009, 01:06:42 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think it's due to the most recent revelations that he warned Misty that Donna was a TES plant, whether guilty of anything to do with her bing missing, his actions create alot of suspicions. Also, I'm curious about the cell pings, if he called Misty 20 times and then Tommy why are there only 2 pings. I will never understand why he has chosen to constantly cover for Misty and even warn her that TES had planted Donna their to get information from her as I think he would want the truth to come out, yet doing what he did by texting her that info is highly suspect IMO

There is no confirmation that he texted Misty.  There is only a story from one of those "reporters" who are known for
their mis-information.  The only person who has said there were 20 calls was Tommy Croslin.  I think we are jumping
on information that is less than accurate.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2009, 01:06:55 PM
SHOEMAKER: Yes. He was there all night. You know, there were some times, you know, based on our conversations with FDLE, that people didn`t actually see him, but they were for very short periods of time. And people saw him there all night, for the most part.   ::MonkeyEek::  If he was trying to sound convincing he lost at it.

He was also unloading a truck that night, because a shipment came in...I remember reading, sorry, no thread to back it up.
his lawyer stated on ng that he had several tasks that night in addition to his reg crane job

He could get lost in the sauce...he could be absent for twenty minutes (no one would know) if the boss was on a break.
Twenty minutes of borrowed time with an additional break, he could pull it off.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 01:07:39 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think it's due to the most recent revelations that he warned Misty that Donna was a TES plant, whether guilty of anything to do with her bing missing, his actions create alot of suspicions. Also, I'm curious about the cell pings, if he called Misty 20 times and then Tommy why are there only 2 pings. I will never understand why he has chosen to constantly cover for Misty and even warn her that TES had planted Donna their to get information from her as I think he would want the truth to come out, yet doing what he did by texting her that info is highly suspect IMO

I don't think it is just the latest revelations,it has been going on for a while now and by some more then others and some monkeys have stopped posting due to it. JMO


and in case this was missed..I have a baby to play with...BBL

Haleigh Update: Father's Attorney Seeks 2nd Pair of Eyes and an NPO

TJ Hart

Six-year-old Haleigh Cummings has been missing since she disappeared from her Satsuma, Florida home on February 9, 2009. The last person to see her was her babysitter Misty Croslin-Cummings, who then became her stepmother and will soon become her father's ex-wif.

According to Terry Shoemaker, the attorney representing Haleigh's father Ronald Cummings, he believes the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office is doing an excellent job following leads and tips, but a fresh set of eyes may aid the investigation.

Shoemaker told www.actionnewsjax.com, "What we’d like to do is hire an independent private investigator that would allow them to look into some different areas, check down some different stories that have come in and possibly lead the investigation in another direction."

Shoemaker is now investigating ways to set up a non-profit organization. He says its purpose would be to 1) help get the word out about Haleigh’s disappearance, and 2) serve as a way to gather funds to pay the private investigator.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 01:08:13 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Miki,

You are so wonderful to give him the benefit of the doubt.  With all due respect, who said he drove home to crime a crime?
Perhaps she drove to him, brought him smokes and a scuffle occured?  Did he take two breaks together?

I for one don't want it to be him, I don't want it to be anyone, really, I wish none of this happened. But one has to look at everything, I have never hidden my distaste for Ron, but his behavior hasn't been exactly stellar when you look at all this, it is actually sickening.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 01:08:19 PM
HaleighNewz RT @hobbitt55: Lisa Croslin is no longer showing in custody of Jail in Tennessee5 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 01:10:28 PM
HaleighNewz RT @hobbitt55: Lisa Croslin is no longer showing in custody of Jail in Tennessee5 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/
   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 01:13:42 PM
If one of my children were possibly kidnapped you can bet I would have a gun in the home to protect the other child remaining in the home.

Without more information there is no way for me to form an opinion as to who I think may have abducted her or harmed her.

I am trying to keep an open mind and look at all of the characters involved and events that have occurred without forming an opinion.  I feel that if I form an opinion that one player only (or set of players) is involved it may limit my thinking processes where the other players are concerned.

I am just not ready to commit to one theory yet.

Hope this makes sense.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 01:19:43 PM
If one of my children were possibly kidnapped you can bet I would have a gun in the home to protect the other child remaining in the home.

Without more information there is no way for me to form an opinion as to who I think may have abducted her or harmed her.

I am trying to keep an open mind and look at all of the characters involved and events that have occurred without forming an opinion.  I feel that if I form an opinion that one player only (or set of players) is involved it may limit my thinking processes where the other players are concerned.

I am just not ready to commit to one theory yet.

Hope this makes sense.
Sure, that is the way you do it  ::MonkeyCool:: I'm the type that comes to a conclusion fast, by looking at the people and listening to them, that is the way I do it. Everybody has their own way, which I find interesting, interesting to read everybodies take on this and other cases as well. I stay out of the gun in the house talk, because for me I don't and wouldn't under any circumstances own a gun. That is my right, and I don't ever say anything about other people's rights when it comes to guns. But, with that said, it disturbs me tremendously when people have guns and kids in their house, and the guns aren't properly put away so a child can't get at it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 01:20:36 PM
HaleighNewz RT @hobbitt55: Lisa Croslin is no longer showing in custody of Jail in Tennessee5 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/
   ::MonkeyConfused::

Funny. I see her showing up there just as she has been.

Maybe hobbit55 forgot to type in the g in Crosling. (They have her listed as Lisa Crosling, not Lisa Croslin.)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on October 13, 2009, 01:21:12 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Miki,

You are so wonderful to give him the benefit of the doubt.  With all due respect, who said he drove home to crime a crime?
Perhaps she drove to him, brought him smokes and a scuffle occured?  Did he take two breaks together?

I for one don't want it to be him, I don't want it to be anyone, really, I wish none of this happened. But one has to look at everything, I have never hidden my distaste for Ron, but his behavior hasn't been exactly stellar when you look at all this, it is actually sickening.

I agree no rose, I don't want it to be anyone, I hope and pray she was spirited away to a relative where she is having a much better life than she could ever have with Ron and Misty.
The key has and always will be Misty, she knows everything there is to know about what happened. Maybe now when she is completely alone, no husband or lawyer she will tells what really happened.
No Ron is no angel thats for sure but I believe he loves his children, even if it's a somewhat spastic version of what it should be.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 01:24:26 PM
If the gun was not loaded and the ammo was stored in a separate place he has complied with the law.

If the gun had a trigger lock he has complied with the law.

These are things we do not know, to my knowledge.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:25:12 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think it's due to the most recent revelations that he warned Misty that Donna was a TES plant, whether guilty of anything to do with her bing missing, his actions create alot of suspicions. Also, I'm curious about the cell pings, if he called Misty 20 times and then Tommy why are there only 2 pings. I will never understand why he has chosen to constantly cover for Misty and even warn her that TES had planted Donna their to get information from her as I think he would want the truth to come out, yet doing what he did by texting her that info is highly suspect IMO

There is no confirmation that he texted Misty.  There is only a story from one of those "reporters" who are known for
their mis-information.  The only person who has said there were 20 calls was Tommy Croslin.  I think we are jumping
on information that is less than accurate.

Well, I will wait and see if TIm Miller comes out and states that it is not true, as to the 20 calls IIRC his own atty stated this .......I'd never trust anything that Tommy croslin stated as fact unless it was backed up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 01:30:07 PM
HaleighNewz RT @hobbitt55: Lisa Croslin is no longer showing in custody of Jail in Tennessee5 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/
   ::MonkeyConfused::

Funny. I see her showing up there just as she has been.

Maybe hobbit55 forgot to type in the g in Crosling. (They have her listed as Lisa Crosling, not Lisa Croslin.)



Well, now, I don't see her listed.

Must have been a cache problem.

Maybe she is on the way to Putnam County.

Guess time will tell.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 13, 2009, 01:37:14 PM
Looks like a busy day so far in Putnam County:

AXE    HAROLD    LEE    7/07/1963   M   W    09-04218    10/13/2009 1:33:05 PM   
STRICKLAND    CLIFFORD    CHARLES    8/06/1943   M   W    09-04217    10/13/2009 1:26:53 PM   
AKINS    MICHAEL    ANTHONY    9/29/1957   M   B    09-04216    10/13/2009 12:23:24 PM   
MACK    CEPHUS        6/20/1990   M   B    09-04215    10/13/2009 11:34:22 AM   
REILLY    LINDA    SUE    1/01/1970   F   W    09-04214    10/13/2009 10:40:16 AM   10/13/2009 10:52:59 AM
KASTENS    CHEYENNE    L    9/18/1989   F   W    09-04213    10/13/2009 5:55:57 AM   10/13/2009 7:50:00 AM
AVILES    TANIA        5/19/1991   F   W    09-04212    10/13/2009 3:40:38 AM   
HILL    ANGELA    RENEE    1/21/1973   F   B    09-04211    10/13/2009 2:15:03 AM   
MCMAHON    MICHAEL    JOHN    3/07/1981   M   W    09-04210    10/13/2009 1:21:03 AM   
KEISER    BRADLEY    PAUL    9/23/1952   M   W    09-04209    10/13/2009 12:33:22 AM   10/13/2009 8:29:57 AM


Good afternoon Monkeys!   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 01:37:18 PM
If the gun was not loaded and the ammo was stored in a separate place he has complied with the law.

If the gun had a trigger lock he has complied with the law.

These are things we do not know, to my knowledge.
Yes, I have no idea, but if the story told by Tim Miller is true, and I doubt he would make that up, that was disturbing. Now with Jr being in the room or not being in the room, I'm not sure what to think about that. Did Tim say he was in the room, or is this coming from one of the bloggers? I can't remember  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 01:38:00 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think it's due to the most recent revelations that he warned Misty that Donna was a TES plant, whether guilty of anything to do with her bing missing, his actions create alot of suspicions. Also, I'm curious about the cell pings, if he called Misty 20 times and then Tommy why are there only 2 pings. I will never understand why he has chosen to constantly cover for Misty and even warn her that TES had planted Donna their to get information from her as I think he would want the truth to come out, yet doing what he did by texting her that info is highly suspect IMO

There is no confirmation that he texted Misty.  There is only a story from one of those "reporters" who are known for
their mis-information.  The only person who has said there were 20 calls was Tommy Croslin.  I think we are jumping
on information that is less than accurate.

Well, I will wait and see if TIm Miller comes out and states that it is not true, as to the 20 calls IIRC his own atty stated this .......I'd never trust anything that Tommy croslin stated as fact unless it was backed up.
I believe Ron's lawyer did state that  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 13, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
Looks like a busy day so far in Putnam County:

AXE    HAROLD    LEE    7/07/1963   M   W    09-04218    10/13/2009 1:33:05 PM   
STRICKLAND    CLIFFORD    CHARLES    8/06/1943   M   W    09-04217    10/13/2009 1:26:53 PM   
AKINS    MICHAEL    ANTHONY    9/29/1957   M   B    09-04216    10/13/2009 12:23:24 PM   
MACK    CEPHUS        6/20/1990   M   B    09-04215    10/13/2009 11:34:22 AM   
REILLY    LINDA    SUE    1/01/1970   F   W    09-04214    10/13/2009 10:40:16 AM   10/13/2009 10:52:59 AM
KASTENS    CHEYENNE    L    9/18/1989   F   W    09-04213    10/13/2009 5:55:57 AM   10/13/2009 7:50:00 AM
AVILES    TANIA        5/19/1991   F   W    09-04212    10/13/2009 3:40:38 AM   
HILL    ANGELA    RENEE    1/21/1973   F   B    09-04211    10/13/2009 2:15:03 AM   
MCMAHON    MICHAEL    JOHN    3/07/1981   M   W    09-04210    10/13/2009 1:21:03 AM   
KEISER    BRADLEY    PAUL    9/23/1952   M   W    09-04209    10/13/2009 12:33:22 AM   10/13/2009 8:29:57 AM


Good afternoon Monkeys!   ::MonkeyBike::


Sorry, I forgot to post the link:

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 01:38:55 PM
Good Afternoon cece, does the jail ever have a slow day there?  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:39:34 PM
xxxxxxx
I didn't want to comment until I got caught up, then didn't want to go back and find your post to me so I can quote it (I've been out all day, I'm so tired!).  I just wanted to say that I do respect your opinion and find we are on the same side of most arguments.  I do respect you as you have always spoke your mind, and I have to love you for that.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I'm a black and white tell it like it is and you better not lie to me kinda girl.  I've said it before, I can deal with the truth  ::Baseball:: ...but I hate a liar.  ::MonkeyMad:: (and we have a lot of those in this case, sadly)  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I just wish we never ever got upset with each other but I know that's not gonna happen. ::MonkeyAngel::  I just like to see adults agreeing to disagree and treating each other respectfully.  We can learn from each other and I really don't mind someone challenging my way of thinking or disagreeing with me, as long as they're polite.  A good, clean debate can sometimes even sway my opinion.   ::MonkeyDevil::


 

BUMPED

Great Post from O4B, thought it should be bumped....... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 13, 2009, 01:43:26 PM
Good Afternoon cece, does the jail ever have a slow day there?  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyTongue::

Hi NRCG!  I think their revolving door policy keeps them pretty busy.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 01:43:55 PM
TJ Hart has a new article up:

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5429075.php

Haleigh Update: Father's Attorney Seeks 2nd Pair of Eyes and an NPO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 01:45:25 PM
If the gun was not loaded and the ammo was stored in a separate place he has complied with the law.

If the gun had a trigger lock he has complied with the law.

These are things we do not know, to my knowledge.

Thank you Dsn, I tried pointing that out last night.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:46:00 PM
If the gun was not loaded and the ammo was stored in a separate place he has complied with the law.

If the gun had a trigger lock he has complied with the law.

These are things we do not know, to my knowledge.
Yes, I have no idea, but if the story told by Tim Miller is true, and I doubt he would make that up, that was disturbing. Now with Jr being in the room or not being in the room, I'm not sure what to think about that. Did Tim say he was in the room, or is this coming from one of the bloggers? I can't remember  ::MonkeyConfused::

According to AH, Tim stated that-now if he didn't tell AH that, I'd expect him to make it known that his words were twisted, but he has been very forthright in what he believes and how he feels lately........digrace was on that comes to mind, an absolute disgrace that these two that hang out with druggies and thugs are involving Haleigh and jr in this lifestyle......incredibly sad IMO  ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 01:47:26 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

o/t...for those who prayed for sweet Jessica last night...she earned her Angel Wings at 3:50 AM this morning. Thank You for your prayers!

Please pray that today is the day that Haleigh is found.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: sailcat on October 13, 2009, 01:48:18 PM
If one of my children were possibly kidnapped you can bet I would have a gun in the home to protect the other child remaining in the home.

Without more information there is no way for me to form an opinion as to who I think may have abducted her or harmed her.

I am trying to keep an open mind and look at all of the characters involved and events that have occurred without forming an opinion.  I feel that if I form an opinion that one player only (or set of players) is involved it may limit my thinking processes where the other players are concerned.

I am just not ready to commit to one theory yet.

Hope this makes sense.
Sure, that is the way you do it  ::MonkeyCool:: I'm the type that comes to a conclusion fast, by looking at the people and listening to them, that is the way I do it. Everybody has their own way, which I find interesting, interesting to read everybodies take on this and other cases as well. I stay out of the gun in the house talk, because for me I don't and wouldn't under any circumstances own a gun. That is my right, and I don't ever say anything about other people's rights when it comes to guns. But, with that said, it disturbs me tremendously when people have guns and kids in their house, and the guns aren't properly put away so a child can't get at it.
Very well said, No Rose! I grew up with guns - hunting, target-shooting, etc. But I wouldn't have a gun in the house with children around. Just me & my opinion... There's an article in the paper today about a 10-year-old boy in Louisville "critically wounded while target shooting." It happens, and it happens too often. I feel like I'm pretty well-protected at home with a couple of noisy dogs and a 7-iron by the door. ;-) On the other hand, if the coyotes keep getting closer, I may have to get my shotgun back from my buddy who keeps it locked in his gun safe. -Sailcat


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 01:49:17 PM
TJ Hart has a new article up:

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5429075.php

Haleigh Update: Father's Attorney Seeks 2nd Pair of Eyes and an NPO

Thank you Brandi, I forgot to post the link when I posted the info. Im running back and forth here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:50:54 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

o/t...for those who prayed for sweet Jessica last night...she earned her Angel Wings at 3:50 AM this morning. Thank You for your prayers!

Please pray that today is the day that Haleigh is found.
::MonkeyWaa::

I read her story and it broke my heart, God's newest angel is now home ::MonkeyAngel:: Prayers for her family and those that love and miss her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 01:51:05 PM
TJ Hart has a new article up:

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5429075.php

Haleigh Update: Father's Attorney Seeks 2nd Pair of Eyes and an NPO
Thanks Brandi  ::MonkeyCool::  And IM thanks for bumping the post, she said it very well.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 01:52:33 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

o/t...for those who prayed for sweet Jessica last night...she earned her Angel Wings at 3:50 AM this morning. Thank You for your prayers!

Please pray that today is the day that Haleigh is found.
Thanks Darla.  Jessica  ::MonkeyAngel::   IM, thanks, so Tim did say Jr was in the room?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:53:51 PM
TJ Hart has a new article up:

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5429075.php

Haleigh Update: Father's Attorney Seeks 2nd Pair of Eyes and an NPO
Thanks Brandi  ::MonkeyCool::  And IM thanks for bumping the post, she said it very well.

YW-NRCG and yes she did........ ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 01:56:53 PM
If one of my children were possibly kidnapped you can bet I would have a gun in the home to protect the other child remaining in the home.

Without more information there is no way for me to form an opinion as to who I think may have abducted her or harmed her.

I am trying to keep an open mind and look at all of the characters involved and events that have occurred without forming an opinion.  I feel that if I form an opinion that one player only (or set of players) is involved it may limit my thinking processes where the other players are concerned.

I am just not ready to commit to one theory yet.

Hope this makes sense.
Sure, that is the way you do it  ::MonkeyCool:: I'm the type that comes to a conclusion fast, by looking at the people and listening to them, that is the way I do it. Everybody has their own way, which I find interesting, interesting to read everybodies take on this and other cases as well. I stay out of the gun in the house talk, because for me I don't and wouldn't under any circumstances own a gun. That is my right, and I don't ever say anything about other people's rights when it comes to guns. But, with that said, it disturbs me tremendously when people have guns and kids in their house, and the guns aren't properly put away so a child can't get at it.
Very well said, No Rose! I grew up with guns - hunting, target-shooting, etc. But I wouldn't have a gun in the house with children around. Just me & my opinion... There's an article in the paper today about a 10-year-old boy in Louisville "critically wounded while target shooting." It happens, and it happens too often. I feel like I'm pretty well-protected at home with a couple of noisy dogs and a 7-iron by the door. ;-) On the other hand, if the coyotes keep getting closer, I may have to get my shotgun back from my buddy who keeps it locked in his gun safe. -Sailcat
   ::MonkeyCool:: I have a barking dog, and we do have coyotes in the field, but never has one gotten into our yard, unless they would become super jumpers over our fences  ::MonkeyDevil::  Yes, I get way to upset reading and hearing about so many accidents from guns, guns that kids get their hands on, and end up accidently shooting themselves or another. I grew up where hunting season was a big deal, my dad never had a gun in our home, and I just carried on from there. I lived many years without one, and have no intentions of purchasing one.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 01:57:55 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

o/t...for those who prayed for sweet Jessica last night...she earned her Angel Wings at 3:50 AM this morning. Thank You for your prayers!

Please pray that today is the day that Haleigh is found.
Thanks Darla.  Jessica  ::MonkeyAngel::   IM, thanks, so Tim did say Jr was in the room?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Yes according to AH......will see if Tim comes out ans states he didn't, but just needed to say those clips are large capacity of 32 rounds each............ ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


There, he says Ronald lead him to a closet, where he kept an assault rifle, with two clips, each holding 32 rounds, and pulled it out.

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller tells me Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head.

“Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’

“I said, ‘Ronald, give me that damn gun! You don’t need that gun around here. We don’t need anymore problems,’ and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’

“And Junior is in the room, watching, and I’m thinking, ‘Here we go. He’s got a gun in the closet that doesn’t lock. It’s not in a locked gun case and there’s Junior in the house. It felt like child endangerment to me.

So I said, ‘Ronald, you already lost one child, and even at Junior’s age, they’re curious, and you don’t want to lose another child being irresponsible with this damn gun.’ That was the bedroom where he said he slept with Misty and Junior.”


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 02:01:11 PM
If one of my children were possibly kidnapped you can bet I would have a gun in the home to protect the other child remaining in the home.

Without more information there is no way for me to form an opinion as to who I think may have abducted her or harmed her.

I am trying to keep an open mind and look at all of the characters involved and events that have occurred without forming an opinion.  I feel that if I form an opinion that one player only (or set of players) is involved it may limit my thinking processes where the other players are concerned.

I am just not ready to commit to one theory yet.

Hope this makes sense.
Sure, that is the way you do it  ::MonkeyCool:: I'm the type that comes to a conclusion fast, by looking at the people and listening to them, that is the way I do it. Everybody has their own way, which I find interesting, interesting to read everybodies take on this and other cases as well. I stay out of the gun in the house talk, because for me I don't and wouldn't under any circumstances own a gun. That is my right, and I don't ever say anything about other people's rights when it comes to guns. But, with that said, it disturbs me tremendously when people have guns and kids in their house, and the guns aren't properly put away so a child can't get at it.
Very well said, No Rose! I grew up with guns - hunting, target-shooting, etc. But I wouldn't have a gun in the house with children around. Just me & my opinion... There's an article in the paper today about a 10-year-old boy in Louisville "critically wounded while target shooting." It happens, and it happens too often. I feel like I'm pretty well-protected at home with a couple of noisy dogs and a 7-iron by the door. ;-) On the other hand, if the coyotes keep getting closer, I may have to get my shotgun back from my buddy who keeps it locked in his gun safe. -Sailcat
   ::MonkeyCool:: I have a barking dog, and we do have coyotes in the field, but never has one gotten into our yard, unless they would become super jumpers over our fences  ::MonkeyDevil::  Yes, I get way to upset reading and hearing about so many accidents from guns, guns that kids get their hands on, and end up accidently shooting themselves or another. I grew up where hunting season was a big deal, my dad never had a gun in our home, and I just carried on from there. I lived many years without one, and have no intentions of purchasing one.
::MonkeyNoNo::

Looks like he stated that the clips and the assaukt rifle are kept in the same place and that is scary, it's so easy to pop in a clip and chamber a round that's why I have a semi automatic ::MonkeyMad:: Mine are kept seperate and the ammo is under lock and key.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 02:03:43 PM
 Wow, thanks IM. And he shares the same room with Misty and Ron, for Heaven's sake, the child should have his own area to sleep, not with them  ::MonkeyNoNo:: And shares a room with an assault rifle in the closet.


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Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 02:18:10 PM
I missed this part last night on NG. Apparently Misty has signed the divorce papers:

Quote
GRACE: Please don`t sugarcoat it for me the way you did on the morning shows. Because if you are doubting aspects of Misty Croslin`s story, that means you doubt the whole story, whether -- you know, you may want to take the light version and think she went out that evening and somebody else came into the home.

I don`t know how likely or probable that is. Or you may take a more realistic look that she was the last one with the child and most typically that is the person responsible for the disappearance. But has the divorce been signed yet?

SHOEMAKER: I know that Misty was in our office today. We gave her the paper. She`s no longer represented by anybody. She looked them over, she took them to a notary, brought them back signed. And they will be filed shortly.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 13, 2009, 02:24:58 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.


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Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 02:28:07 PM
If the clips are loaded then I agree they should be stored separately.

Thank you for the links all.

 BBL, in and out today so it may take a few for me to respond.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 02:28:11 PM
TJ Hart has a new article up:

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5429075.php

Haleigh Update: Father's Attorney Seeks 2nd Pair of Eyes and an NPO

Thanks,Brandi.   ::MonkeySkate::


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Post by: O4Bull on October 13, 2009, 02:29:59 PM
Darla:  Thank you for sharing Jessica's story, I'm sorry for her family but happy she's in Heaven, free at last  ::MonkeyAngel::

IM:  Thanks for all the gun related information.  I know it's not a popular subject but it's part of this case.  I'm just praying if ron did
       decide to take out some others he won't include his little boy.  He seems the type that might, especially since he wouldn't want
       Crystal to have him (IMO, because he's so selfish and vindictive)

Heart:  I get what you're saying about ron not threatening with the gun or shooting the croslins.  It may be that his behavior
           differs when under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol and that's what we're seeing/hearing.  Maybe drugs/alcohol
           make him meaner (thus the tough guy attitude) and when he's sober, not so much.  Just speculating, I really don't
           know but I do agree it's puzzling at least.

Interesting to see lisa is out of TN jail, gosh I hope she takes a deal and runs her mouth.  Although, who knows what we can
believe from any of these people.

I'm going to be busy today but will check in later, hoping for good news for Haleigh as always.



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Post by: Kat_Gram on October 13, 2009, 02:33:55 PM
Ron's standard answer on NG was always I was at work.
This is what we thought :
He was a crane operator. Easily checked to see if he was on the crane all night and PCSD must have checked this out.
Along comes his lawyer and say that they have a handprint hi tech thing , now we find out that they didn't have that system in Feb of 2009.
He made 20x phone calls to Misty from work, only two pinged from PDM verified.
Now we find out he was mostly where he could be seen and that he wasn't always on the crane, he operated a forklift. Also two areas of PDM.
He also called her brother to check and see or whatever, but he did call her brother.
I am not trying to PIN it on Ron, but there are some details coming out recently where his alibi isn't as 100 % as we were led to believe from Ron and his Mother as per what he said on NG.
There are alot of details coming out from various sources, some true, some not true recently. What we do know is that because of Ron and Misty's lifestyle, Haleigh might have been collateral damage with all of their fighting and need for drugs and all that goes with that.


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Post by: O4Bull on October 13, 2009, 02:35:04 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.
I'm not sure Crystal wouldn't get temporary custody.  Why would you be so sure she wouldn't?  She has unsupervised visitation on her weekends and she is his mother.  I personally believe he should not be with ron as long as misty can be anywhere near him and the state should see to that. 

Not saying you're talking to me, but I am not bashing ron, he's part of this case and I think it's okay to look at every aspect.  Haleigh "was stole" while in the care of his underage minor bed partner/babysitter in HIS House.  LE has not cleared ron, his attorney has even stated that.  JMO


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Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 02:40:15 PM
Wow, thanks IM. And he shares the same room with Misty and Ron, for Heaven's sake, the child should have his own area to sleep, not with them  ::MonkeyNoNo:: And shares a room with an assault rifle in the closet.
::MonkeyNoNo:: According to Tim Miller yes, but I thought they were living in a trailer on GGMS lot, if so he should have booted Misty to another room and hidden the gun where jr wouldn't have access to it. ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 02:40:43 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.

I wish I could help you here Magnolia,but I don't understand it nor do I find it proper to trash him and call him names, I do not understand why folks are so set on calling DCF at every rumor about Ron they hear either. more circus IMO. That is just me though.



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Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 02:43:38 PM
Wow, thanks IM. And he shares the same room with Misty and Ron, for Heaven's sake, the child should have his own area to sleep, not with them  ::MonkeyNoNo:: And shares a room with an assault rifle in the closet.
::MonkeyNoNo:: According to Tim Miller yes, but I thought they were living in a trailer on GGMS lot, if so he should have booted Misty to another room and hidden the gun where jr wouldn't have access to it. ::MonkeyMad::

I thought per TM they were living in GGS house not a trailer on her property.


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Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 02:44:31 PM
Darla:  Thank you for sharing Jessica's story, I'm sorry for her family but happy she's in Heaven, free at last  ::MonkeyAngel::

IM:  Thanks for all the gun related information.  I know it's not a popular subject but it's part of this case.  I'm just praying if ron did
       decide to take out some others he won't include his little boy.  He seems the type that might, especially since he wouldn't want
       Crystal to have him (IMO, because he's so selfish and vindictive)

Heart:  I get what you're saying about ron not threatening with the gun or shooting the croslins.  It may be that his behavior
           differs when under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol and that's what we're seeing/hearing.  Maybe drugs/alcohol
           make him meaner (thus the tough guy attitude) and when he's sober, not so much.  Just speculating, I really don't
           know but I do agree it's puzzling at least.

Interesting to see lisa is out of TN jail, gosh I hope she takes a deal and runs her mouth.  Although, who knows what we can
believe from any of these people.

I'm going to be busy today but will check in later, hoping for good news for Haleigh as always.



YW - O4B...........sadly I've seen that happen in so many cases, and it would break my heart to something happen to Jr, especially with Haleigh gone already.


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Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 03:08:38 PM
DCf is only going to remove children who are in immediate danger.  My grandson was brought to us to visit with bruises on his back.  The dad said it was from playing "round and round in circles all fall down".  We let it go at that and thought maybe he hit his lower back playing.  The next week he was brought to us with bruises on his lower legs in what appears to be a hand print.  We took him home and took pictures.  We called dcf the next day and they said because we waited we can not prove that the bruises were there before we got him!  Like what???  Like WE put the bruises there?  GMAB!  They said because we did not call them first and let them take the pictures we can not use them in Ct.  DCF went to the fathers home and have determined my grandbaby is in NO IMMEDIATE DANGER!  Go figure.  The worker that is sent out to investigate has to be able to prove IMMINENT danger to remove the child.  YES, FL DCF is a mess.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 03:09:43 PM
Not trying to make it about ME, just showing you how it works.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 03:13:47 PM
Not trying to make it about ME, just showing you how it works.

and doesn't work, it's sad to see DCF fail so may kids...........did they ever find that child here in Florida they lost ::MonkeyConfused::


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Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 03:15:47 PM
The b/f  under five (can't remember her name, sorry)?  I don't think so.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 13, 2009, 03:16:25 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.

I wish I could help you here Magnolia,but I don't understand it nor do I find it proper to trash him and call him names, I do not understand why folks are so set on calling DCF at every rumor about Ron they hear either. more circus IMO. That is just me though.



Thank you, Searching. ::MonkeyCool::
 I feel the same way.  I can't see that it does a thing to help find HaLeigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 03:17:20 PM
Wow, thanks IM. And he shares the same room with Misty and Ron, for Heaven's sake, the child should have his own area to sleep, not with them  ::MonkeyNoNo:: And shares a room with an assault rifle in the closet.
::MonkeyNoNo:: According to Tim Miller yes, but I thought they were living in a trailer on GGMS lot, if so he should have booted Misty to another room and hidden the gun where jr wouldn't have access to it. ::MonkeyMad::

I thought per TM they were living in GGS house not a trailer on her property.
You are right, they are living in HER trailer, I thought they were in some type of travel trailer and she had a house too, but this is from TM:


Miller says he first became alarmed after Misty “miserably” flunked a polygraph and a voice stress test he says she asked him to set up to clear her name—after initially balking. In getting to know the couple, to make them feel comfortable, he’d dropped by the Satsuma trailer where they lived with Annette Sykes, Ronald’s grandmother


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Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 03:18:22 PM
The b/f  under five (can't remember her name, sorry)?  I don't think so.

Yeah that one. I can't even remember how long ago it has been now.........sad that I can't remember her name anymore ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 03:36:02 PM
Not trying to make it about ME, just showing you how it works.
Hi DSN... That is the way it works,their hands are tied but don't you think that is because rules and laws have had to be put in place due to malicious/unfounded calls? I mean,take this case for instance. Ron has been investigated several times and was deemed unfounded allegations,now,due to an article by I believe AH, some bloggers are calling DCF on him AGAIN as they did last time, due to this recent thing about the gun. Don't you think this type of careless behavior has contributed to the tying of DCF's hands??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 03:37:26 PM
Ron's standard answer on NG was always I was at work.
This is what we thought :
He was a crane operator. Easily checked to see if he was on the crane all night and PCSD must have checked this out.
Along comes his lawyer and say that they have a handprint hi tech thing , now we find out that they didn't have that system in Feb of 2009.
He made 20x phone calls to Misty from work, only two pinged from PDM verified.
Now we find out he was mostly where he could be seen and that he wasn't always on the crane, he operated a forklift. Also two areas of PDM.
He also called her brother to check and see or whatever, but he did call her brother.
I am not trying to PIN it on Ron, but there are some details coming out recently where his alibi isn't as 100 % as we were led to believe from Ron and his Mother as per what he said on NG.
There are alot of details coming out from various sources, some true, some not true recently. What we do know is that because of Ron and Misty's lifestyle, Haleigh might have been collateral damage with all of their fighting and need for drugs and all that goes with that.
You are right, and it sure now seems that his alibi at work is not air tight.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 03:40:47 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.

I wish I could help you here Magnolia,but I don't understand it nor do I find it proper to trash him and call him names, I do not understand why folks are so set on calling DCF at every rumor about Ron they hear either. more circus IMO. That is just me though.


Common sense should dictate that after the story that Tim Miller spoke of, I think it is clear that Ron is a loose cannon, and Jr is unsafe. I never called DCF or anyone else for that matter at every rumor. But this is a tragedy waiting to happen imo. Maybe if something happens people will be upset that DCF left a child in a home under those circumstances.


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Post by: alagary on October 13, 2009, 03:42:59 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

o/t...for those who prayed for sweet Jessica last night...she earned her Angel Wings at 3:50 AM this morning. Thank You for your prayers!

Please pray that today is the day that Haleigh is found.
Sorry darla , just saw this . All my prayers .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 03:42:59 PM
DCf is only going to remove children who are in immediate danger.  My grandson was brought to us to visit with bruises on his back.  The dad said it was from playing "round and round in circles all fall down".  We let it go at that and thought maybe he hit his lower back playing.  The next week he was brought to us with bruises on his lower legs in what appears to be a hand print.  We took him home and took pictures.  We called dcf the next day and they said because we waited we can not prove that the bruises were there before we got him!  Like what???  Like WE put the bruises there?  GMAB!  They said because we did not call them first and let them take the pictures we can not use them in Ct.  DCF went to the fathers home and have determined my grandbaby is in NO IMMEDIATE DANGER!  Go figure.  The worker that is sent out to investigate has to be able to prove IMMINENT danger to remove the child.  YES, FL DCF is a mess.
I'm sorry  ::MonkeyAngel:: How extremely sad, one has to wonder if DCF should even be around since so many horrible things happen under their watch.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Very shameful.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 03:44:14 PM
Not trying to make it about ME, just showing you how it works.
No, and I appreciate anyone's input, I have never had dealings with DCF and I'm stunned by some of the stories I have been reading about over the months, by our posters.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 03:46:40 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.

I wish I could help you here Magnolia,but I don't understand it nor do I find it proper to trash him and call him names, I do not understand why folks are so set on calling DCF at every rumor about Ron they hear either. more circus IMO. That is just me though.


Common sense should dictate that after the story that Tim Miller spoke of, I think it is clear that Ron is a loose cannon, and Jr is unsafe. I never called DCF or anyone else for that matter at every rumor. But this is a tragedy waiting to happen imo. Maybe if something happens people will be upset that DCF left a child in a home under those circumstances.

I have common sense and that common sense tells me I should nt call DCF based upon an AH article. I am sure that it has been reported properly. I was not there and did not see it, therefor, my common sense is telling me I should not insert myself.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 03:47:26 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.

I wish I could help you here Magnolia,but I don't understand it nor do I find it proper to trash him and call him names, I do not understand why folks are so set on calling DCF at every rumor about Ron they hear either. more circus IMO. That is just me though.


Common sense should dictate that after the story that Tim Miller spoke of, I think it is clear that Ron is a loose cannon, and Jr is unsafe. I never called DCF or anyone else for that matter at every rumor. But this is a tragedy waiting to happen imo. Maybe if something happens people will be upset that DCF left a child in a home under those circumstances.
  I couldn't agree more and if the ammo and gun are stored together and it's not locked as TM stated it's pure negligent IMO.

BBL~work calls ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 03:49:07 PM
Not trying to make it about ME, just showing you how it works.
Hi DSN... That is the way it works,their hands are tied but don't you think that is because rules and laws have had to be put in place due to malicious/unfounded calls? I mean,take this case for instance. Ron has been investigated several times and was deemed unfounded allegations,now,due to an article by I believe AH, some bloggers are calling DCF on him AGAIN as they did last time, due to this recent thing about the gun. Don't you think this type of careless behavior has contributed to the tying of DCF's hands??

I believe that a call for flooding DCF with phone calls and emails is very irresponsible.

This would only serve to prevent them from doing the work that they do get done. And I am sure there are failures, but I am willing to bet they also serve a good purpose in some cases.

JMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 03:53:41 PM
Not trying to make it about ME, just showing you how it works.
Hi DSN... That is the way it works,their hands are tied but don't you think that is because rules and laws have had to be put in place due to malicious/unfounded calls? I mean,take this case for instance. Ron has been investigated several times and was deemed unfounded allegations,now,due to an article by I believe AH, some bloggers are calling DCF on him AGAIN as they did last time, due to this recent thing about the gun. Don't you think this type of careless behavior has contributed to the tying of DCF's hands??
Like the boy who cried wolf?  Yes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: alagary on October 13, 2009, 03:56:06 PM
All depends on who has it . My shotgun stays open and loaded and within easy reach . The only time I think about it is deer season .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 04:00:43 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 04:04:15 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Just want to say how sorry I am that your GS is in this situation.

And any other child that is being abused, mistreated.

It is heartbreaking.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 04:09:51 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Do you think, as I asked before,it is like that due to high caseloads and not enough workers as well as rules/regs due to calls like in this case, from bloggers based upon an article by AH?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 04:11:15 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Do you think, as I asked before,it is like that due to high caseloads and not enough workers as well as rules/regs due to calls like in this case, from bloggers based upon an article by AH? Wanted to add, I get upset at these things because it helps in causing children in need to fall thru the cracks, such as your GS.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 04:14:31 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Do you think, as I asked before,it is like that due to high caseloads and not enough workers as well as rules/regs due to calls like in this case, from bloggers based upon an article by AH?


Have any Monkeys called them? I have not heard anyone here say that they have.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 04:22:53 PM
Wow..just wow, this is turning into a pin it on Ron thread at any cost, I don't understand why. Apart from cell pings, clocking in, and visual sightings all night, it would have taken him 20-25 mins to get home 20-25 mins to get back and god knows how long to do whatever he is supposed to have done. He wasn't out of anyones sight for long enough to have done this...no matter how much you want it to be him.
Just because he is a drug taking, bad a$$ doesn't mean he couldn't love his daughter JMO unfortunately... ::MonkeyNoNo::

ITA.....Ron appears to be an insecure man who spouts off to appear tough.  I think he is dumb as a stone, but
I do not think it is even possible that he harmed HaLeigh.

put me on the same branch as you two! He may be an a$$ but that does not mean that he harmed his daughter...imo....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 04:24:55 PM
I have a question. Why would crystal not get custody of jr. Is there no way at all that she could get him? Like if she would comply with the courts and do as they tell her. Like drug test. Parenting classes. I am just asking. I mean she seems like she has done some growing up to me from what I see and read. From before haleigh got gone. It seems to me it would be better than where he is now. Jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 13, 2009, 04:27:32 PM
:smt018 I've said it over and over... Ron didn't do it and he doesn't know where she is. Mark my words munks  : jmho, lol, but you wait and see...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Do you think, as I asked before,it is like that due to high caseloads and not enough workers as well as rules/regs due to calls like in this case, from bloggers based upon an article by AH?


Have any Monkeys called them? I have not heard anyone here say that they have.

Hi Darla, I said bloggers, not monkeys. but IIRC some were saying they were going to.will go bump it forward if I find it if you want.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 04:33:15 PM
Ron's standard answer on NG was always I was at work.
This is what we thought :
He was a crane operator. Easily checked to see if he was on the crane all night and PCSD must have checked this out.
Along comes his lawyer and say that they have a handprint hi tech thing , now we find out that they didn't have that system in Feb of 2009.
He made 20x phone calls to Misty from work, only two pinged from PDM verified.
Now we find out he was mostly where he could be seen and that he wasn't always on the crane, he operated a forklift. Also two areas of PDM.
He also called her brother to check and see or whatever, but he did call her brother.
I am not trying to PIN it on Ron, but there are some details coming out recently where his alibi isn't as 100 % as we were led to believe from Ron and his Mother as per what he said on NG.
There are alot of details coming out from various sources, some true, some not true recently. What we do know is that because of Ron and Misty's lifestyle, Haleigh might have been collateral damage with all of their fighting and need for drugs and all that goes with that.
I will agree with that (bolded), Kat_Gram.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 04:34:55 PM
:smt018 I've said it over and over... Ron didn't do it and he doesn't know where she is. Mark my words munks  : jmho, lol, but you wait and see...

Hi Nut, I hate to say this but, I think your truck is haunted.. I think I saw a ghost in there...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 04:37:34 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Do you think, as I asked before,it is like that due to high caseloads and not enough workers as well as rules/regs due to calls like in this case, from bloggers based upon an article by AH?
I think their case load is too large.  I think the workers get burned out.  I think they are reluctant to move a child without overwhelming reason to do so.  I think in the past they were too quick to move children to foster care and the foster parents had too many children to take care of and they too got burned out.  I think some foster parents were just in it for the money.  Yes, it is good money if one foster parent stays home with the kids while the other foster parent works.  Is any of it due to bloggers?  Well, if a bunch of them call and overload the system they could be taking away time from more important calls I suppose.  I just know, with the facts as we know them at this moment, there does not seem to me to be enough to warrant removing Jr.   No, foster care is not always better.  Children who go into foster care often do not come out of the system but are in it until age 18.  I am not sure how to answer you or if I even did...  I just know that the system here is atrocious even though they have been working on it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 04:40:21 PM
I have a question. Why would crystal not get custody of jr. Is there no way at all that she could get him? Like if she would comply with the courts and do as they tell her. Like drug test. Parenting classes. I am just asking. I mean she seems like she has done some growing up to me from what I see and read. From before haleigh got gone. It seems to me it would be better than where he is now. Jmo
The Courts are very reluctant to move a child once that child has become comfortable with the present surroundings.  They look at the change in atmosphere as potentially detrimental.  They have to be able to justify the move and weigh it against the damage uprooting may cause. IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 04:41:03 PM
:smt018 I've said it over and over... Ron didn't do it and he doesn't know where she is. Mark my words munks  : jmho, lol, but you wait and see...
I agree with you also Nut, at least it is my hope that it did not and does not. Although it is my belief that he is to blame for the circumstances regarding the lifestyle judging from reports from Cobra, AH, and the likes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: orbison11 on October 13, 2009, 04:41:48 PM
I have a question. Why would crystal not get custody of jr. Is there no way at all that she could get him? Like if she would comply with the courts and do as they tell her. Like drug test. Parenting classes. I am just asking. I mean she seems like she has done some growing up to me from what I see and read. From before haleigh got gone. It seems to me it would be better than where he is now. Jmo

.......

i cant see why crystal would be required to take parenting clases/drug testing, etc to have custody of BB.

she is currently raising three other children and as far as i know, she is not required to report to anyone on this.
jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Do you think, as I asked before,it is like that due to high caseloads and not enough workers as well as rules/regs due to calls like in this case, from bloggers based upon an article by AH?


Have any Monkeys called them? I have not heard anyone here say that they have.

Hi Darla, I said bloggers, not monkeys. but IIRC some were saying they were going to.will go bump it forward if I find it if you want.


That isn't necessary Searching...I am not one that has to have proof of everything that is said. I just commented that I had heard none say they had called. I don't put a whole lot of stock in anything that comes from Art, TJ or Simon and Cobra. They are all out for their 5 minutes of fame.
The only fact we have in this case is that Haleigh is missing and somebody is lying. LE has not released any facts. I was just asking if anyone from here had called. I don't think it appropriate  for any bloggers to be calling DCF or a judge. Unless they live in Satsuma and have witnessed something.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on October 13, 2009, 04:44:33 PM
Hi Monks! I was talking with a friend of mine and I think she brought up some good questions regarding Tommy.

................ What if, Tommy said he was at the trailer that night because he was, but not knocking on the door - but the one who did something with Haleigh?  IE:  what if he knows someone places him at the scene of the crime that night late, and has made up this story as a "cover my azz move"?  Did he sell his sister out as not being there to save his own hide?

We are questioning him waiting so long to say anything. Could it be either:  1.  He did not want to place himself at the scene of the crime for some reason (begs for the reason!) OR  2.  He somehow now knows someone has ID'd him as being there that night - so he had to come up with a story.  And that he went to knock for Ron -- still could have been his initial reason for going, but was that all he did?

Any thoughts?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 04:46:25 PM
Parenting classes are par for the course here when any child is in the system.  I have nothing against every parent in the state taking them.  They DO teach a lot of parenting tricks that a lot of parents are not familiar with.  If the classes are looked at from that point of view and not just as a Court ordered obligation to fulfill there is a lot to be gained from the classes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 04:49:42 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.

I wish I could help you here Magnolia,but I don't understand it nor do I find it proper to trash him and call him names, I do not understand why folks are so set on calling DCF at every rumor about Ron they hear either. more circus IMO. That is just me though.


Common sense should dictate that after the story that Tim Miller spoke of, I think it is clear that Ron is a loose cannon, and Jr is unsafe. I never called DCF or anyone else for that matter at every rumor. But this is a tragedy waiting to happen imo. Maybe if something happens people will be upset that DCF left a child in a home under those circumstances.
  I couldn't agree more and if the ammo and gun are stored together and it's not locked as TM stated it's pure negligent IMO.

BBL~work calls ::MonkeyBike::


Did Tim Miller immediately contact LE or DCF since he considered the scene so alarming, if not why?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 04:51:22 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Do you think, as I asked before,it is like that due to high caseloads and not enough workers as well as rules/regs due to calls like in this case, from bloggers based upon an article by AH?


Have any Monkeys called them? I have not heard anyone here say that they have.

Not me ::MonkeyNoNo:: although I pray Tim Miller either has or will call them and not just PCSO ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 04:54:31 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.

I wish I could help you here Magnolia,but I don't understand it nor do I find it proper to trash him and call him names, I do not understand why folks are so set on calling DCF at every rumor about Ron they hear either. more circus IMO. That is just me though.


Common sense should dictate that after the story that Tim Miller spoke of, I think it is clear that Ron is a loose cannon, and Jr is unsafe. I never called DCF or anyone else for that matter at every rumor. But this is a tragedy waiting to happen imo. Maybe if something happens people will be upset that DCF left a child in a home under those circumstances.
  I couldn't agree more and if the ammo and gun are stored together and it's not locked as TM stated it's pure negligent IMO.

BBL~work calls ::MonkeyBike::


Did Tim Miller immediately contact LE or DCF since he considered the scene so alarming, if not why?

According to the article he did relay the info to LE as he thought it was child endangerment, the rest I don't know and maybe there is more to it, we just have to sit back and wait until he tells more.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2009, 05:00:00 PM
HaleighNewz RT @hobbitt55: Lisa Croslin is no longer showing in custody of Jail in Tennessee5 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/
   ::MonkeyConfused::

Funny. I see her showing up there just as she has been.

Maybe hobbit55 forgot to type in the g in Crosling. (They have her listed as Lisa Crosling, not Lisa Croslin.)



He was looking at the pictures:)

http://radionewz.net/?p=2796


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 05:01:46 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Do you think, as I asked before,it is like that due to high caseloads and not enough workers as well as rules/regs due to calls like in this case, from bloggers based upon an article by AH?


Have any Monkeys called them? I have not heard anyone here say that they have.

Hi Darla, I said bloggers, not monkeys. but IIRC some were saying they were going to.will go bump it forward if I find it if you want.


That isn't necessary Searching...I am not one that has to have proof of everything that is said. I just commented that I had heard none say they had called. I don't put a whole lot of stock in anything that comes from Art, TJ or Simon and Cobra. They are all out for their 5 minutes of fame.
The only fact we have in this case is that Haleigh is missing and somebody is lying. LE has not released any facts. I was just asking if anyone from here had called. I don't think it appropriate  for any bloggers to be calling DCF or a judge. Unless they live in Satsuma and have witnessed something.

I soooooo agree with you. They were posting the abuse hotline number on twitter for bloggers to call in re the AH article.... THAT is what I was talking about. I think that is irresponsible at the least.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 05:13:42 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.

I wish I could help you here Magnolia,but I don't understand it nor do I find it proper to trash him and call him names, I do not understand why folks are so set on calling DCF at every rumor about Ron they hear either. more circus IMO. That is just me though.


Common sense should dictate that after the story that Tim Miller spoke of, I think it is clear that Ron is a loose cannon, and Jr is unsafe. I never called DCF or anyone else for that matter at every rumor. But this is a tragedy waiting to happen imo. Maybe if something happens people will be upset that DCF left a child in a home under those circumstances.
  I couldn't agree more and if the ammo and gun are stored together and it's not locked as TM stated it's pure negligent IMO.

BBL~work calls ::MonkeyBike::


Did Tim Miller immediately contact LE or DCF since he considered the scene so alarming, if not why?

According to the article he did relay the info to LE as he thought it was child endangerment, the rest I don't know and maybe there is more to it, we just have to sit back and wait until he tells more.

Miller said he relayed the gun incident to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, as Ronald and Misty appeared to be butting heads, with numerous family fights reported on this site, and documented by police. Ronald Cummings lawyer could not be reached for comment, nor did Donna Brock return our calls.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comments

The bolded, I wonder are there police reports on these fights or if LE is just keeping a diary.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 05:17:32 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Do you think, as I asked before,it is like that due to high caseloads and not enough workers as well as rules/regs due to calls like in this case, from bloggers based upon an article by AH?


Have any Monkeys called them? I have not heard anyone here say that they have.

Hi Darla, I said bloggers, not monkeys. but IIRC some were saying they were going to.will go bump it forward if I find it if you want.


That isn't necessary Searching...I am not one that has to have proof of everything that is said. I just commented that I had heard none say they had called. I don't put a whole lot of stock in anything that comes from Art, TJ or Simon and Cobra. They are all out for their 5 minutes of fame.
The only fact we have in this case is that Haleigh is missing and somebody is lying. LE has not released any facts. I was just asking if anyone from here had called. I don't think it appropriate  for any bloggers to be calling DCF or a judge. Unless they live in Satsuma and have witnessed something.

I soooooo agree with you. They were posting the abuse hotline number on twitter for bloggers to call in re the AH article.... THAT is what I was talking about. I think that is irresponsible at the least.

Yeah, I mentioned that in this post: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6215.msg981044#msg981044

No one responded.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 13, 2009, 05:17:46 PM
http://ow.ly/ueq6

Sheriff's Office Responds to Haleigh Rumors
 Dave Wax  Ann Butler     Created: 10/13/2009 2:12:02 PM    Updated: 10/13/2009 4:20:32 PM

PALATKA, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has responded about the latest series of rumors regarding the search for Haleigh Cummings.

Officials said not a day goes by that someone doesn't report seeing the girl who disappeared from her home in Satsuma in February when she was 5-years-old.

Calls have come in from as far away as Texas, California and Massachusetts. Calls about sightings in nearby areas come in very frequently.

Recently, two sightings -- one each in Georgia and South Carolina -- were reported. There was videotape evidence for one of the sightings. However, the girl in the video was confirmed to be someone other than Haleigh Cummings.

Sheriff's Office officials say they still follow up on every lead that comes in, and they work with other law enforcement agencies to help them track down distant leads.

Despite the tips -- well over 4,000 -- officials are still no closer to finding out what happened to Haleigh.

For complete information on the Search for Haleigh from First Coast News, CLICK HERE.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 13, 2009, 05:23:43 PM
Why would Tommy after getting a call that he wasn't expecting from Ron go there and do something to Haleigh ? He has no motive at all. They were on good terms before all of this.
That is just too bizarre, isn't it ? He has no record of hurting children in any way shape or form. He has kiddos of his own. 
Maybe with all the blame game going on, he didn't want to place himself there, maybe he was trying to protect his sister. Probably PCSD knew about those 20 x calls and the call to Tommy way before we did. He didn't come on NG and we don't know what he disclosed. Her family was right there and they were questioned early on.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 05:24:58 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.

I wish I could help you here Magnolia,but I don't understand it nor do I find it proper to trash him and call him names, I do not understand why folks are so set on calling DCF at every rumor about Ron they hear either. more circus IMO. That is just me though.


Common sense should dictate that after the story that Tim Miller spoke of, I think it is clear that Ron is a loose cannon, and Jr is unsafe. I never called DCF or anyone else for that matter at every rumor. But this is a tragedy waiting to happen imo. Maybe if something happens people will be upset that DCF left a child in a home under those circumstances.
  I couldn't agree more and if the ammo and gun are stored together and it's not locked as TM stated it's pure negligent IMO.

BBL~work calls ::MonkeyBike::


Did Tim Miller immediately contact LE or DCF since he considered the scene so alarming, if not why?

According to the article he did relay the info to LE as he thought it was child endangerment, the rest I don't know and maybe there is more to it, we just have to sit back and wait until he tells more.

Miller said he relayed the gun incident to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, as Ronald and Misty appeared to be butting heads, with numerous family fights reported on this site, and documented by police. Ronald Cummings lawyer could not be reached for comment, nor did Donna Brock return our calls.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comments

The bolded, I wonder are there police reports on these fights or if LE is just keeping a diary.

I'm inclined to go with "keeping a diary" ::MonkeyDevil2:: Good catch!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 05:25:45 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

Do you think, as I asked before,it is like that due to high caseloads and not enough workers as well as rules/regs due to calls like in this case, from bloggers based upon an article by AH?


Have any Monkeys called them? I have not heard anyone here say that they have.
Me either, nobody, so who is all calling them, people that live in Florida?  I wouldn't call, I'm not there, and wouldn't stick my nose into it. Maybe they don't believe the story that was said about the gun, I don't know. Maybe Tim himself called DCF?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 05:28:48 PM
Maybe some one can enlighten me. ::MonkeyConfused::

What exactly is the point in trashing Ronald Cummings?  We already know he is trash.
Why would anybody want Junion removed to a foster home?  I just don't get it.

The state would not put Junior in Crystal's care.  He would be placed in a foster home.
Maybe some believe that he would be better off.  But the child has been so traumatized already.
I am sure that Junior would feel that he has been "stole" too.

I wish I could help you here Magnolia,but I don't understand it nor do I find it proper to trash him and call him names, I do not understand why folks are so set on calling DCF at every rumor about Ron they hear either. more circus IMO. That is just me though.


Common sense should dictate that after the story that Tim Miller spoke of, I think it is clear that Ron is a loose cannon, and Jr is unsafe. I never called DCF or anyone else for that matter at every rumor. But this is a tragedy waiting to happen imo. Maybe if something happens people will be upset that DCF left a child in a home under those circumstances.
  I couldn't agree more and if the ammo and gun are stored together and it's not locked as TM stated it's pure negligent IMO.

BBL~work calls ::MonkeyBike::


Did Tim Miller immediately contact LE or DCF since he considered the scene so alarming, if not why?
Exactly, shouldn't he be the one to contact them, because he saw it?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 05:32:16 PM
Why would Tommy after getting a call that he wasn't expecting from Ron go there and do something to Haleigh ? He has no motive at all. They were on good terms before all of this.
That is just too bizarre, isn't it ? He has no record of hurting children in any way shape or form. He has kiddos of his own. 
Maybe with all the blame game going on, he didn't want to place himself there, maybe he was trying to protect his sister. Probably PCSD knew about those 20 x calls and the call to Tommy way before we did. He didn't come on NG and we don't know what he disclosed. Her family was right there and they were questioned early on.   
I agree, why would Tommy, I would like to see info that shows that Tommy would hurt a child, except for Misty saying he messed with her. Any indication that DCF has been called to Tommy's house, any reports from neighbors that have seen anything in the form of abuse with kids.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 05:35:29 PM
If Tim Miller turned the info into LE then LE has a fiduciary duty to report it to DCF.  IMO

That being the case I would think that DCF has been notified already and from a reputable source who can be compelled to testify by subpoena.

I think they will consider the source when anyone calls and ask if they saw this event happen firsthand.

All just my opinion.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 05:43:05 PM
If Tim Miller turned the info into LE then LE has a fiduciary duty to report it to DCF.  IMO

That being the case I would think that DCF has been notified already and from a reputable source who can be compelled to testify by subpoena.

I think they will consider the source when anyone calls and ask if they saw this event happen firsthand.

All just my opinion.
I hope they have been notified, by LE and/or Tim Miller, this shouldn't go without some sort of action. I don't think random people calling DCF makes any sense, but I guess people have a right to do that if they think it is the right thing to do.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 13, 2009, 05:46:29 PM
Oprah did a really good show on missing children today....at the end she showed about Lindsey Baum being missing....but no mention of Haleigh so far.....I think that a lot of shows are not covering Haleigh's case is because they feel that it was as LE stated an inside job and that she has crossed over...but she still needs to be brought home and punishment for whoever harmed her ....I also noticed that none of the parents were smirking,laughing,or getting confused with their statements.....some of them even were still crying over their missing child even though it had been many years ago.....God Bless Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Maven on October 13, 2009, 05:51:30 PM
FYI~ according to a poster on another forum, DCF is not very happy with all the phone calls they have been receiving.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 13, 2009, 06:06:29 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

O/T ~ we had almost exact same problem.  Our lawyer advised us to break the law in order to protect our granddaughter.  We nanny-cam'd our daughter-in-law. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 06:17:31 PM
Not trying to make it about ME, just showing you how it works.

and doesn't work, it's sad to see DCF fail so may kids...........did they ever find that child here in Florida they lost ::MonkeyConfused::

That lil girl is Rilya Wilson.  Last I heard, in 2005 (after 3 years being missing), her former caregiver was charged with her murder, even tho they hadn't at that point found Rilya.  Here's one article:

http://www.wesh.com/news/4292896/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/4292896/detail.html)

But ya know what?  In 2002, this news agency found out that there were 532 children that DCF in Florida could not 'account for'.  Some turned out to be runaways etc.  Still IMO, disgusting.  This news agency themselves looked for 24 South Florida children on the missing list, and turned up nine - two of those in under three hours.  So it's not like DCF looked very hard, they didn't even try.  IMO

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/search/sfl-amissing11aug11,0,6132015.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/search/sfl-amissing11aug11,0,6132015.story)

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 06:20:17 PM
Why would Tommy after getting a call that he wasn't expecting from Ron go there and do something to Haleigh ? He has no motive at all. They were on good terms before all of this.
That is just too bizarre, isn't it ? He has no record of hurting children in any way shape or form. He has kiddos of his own. 
Maybe with all the blame game going on, he didn't want to place himself there, maybe he was trying to protect his sister. Probably PCSD knew about those 20 x calls and the call to Tommy way before we did. He didn't come on NG and we don't know what he disclosed. Her family was right there and they were questioned early on.   
I agree, why would Tommy, I would like to see info that shows that Tommy would hurt a child, except for Misty saying he messed with her. Any indication that DCF has been called to Tommy's house, any reports from neighbors that have seen anything in the form of abuse with kids.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Today on Blogger Talk Radio, Cobra was not talking about the HaLeigh case in particular, but about the bonding business in Florida, LE in Putnam County, and his own Putnam County criminal case.

We all are aware that Cobra's case is based on his handcuffing and taking Snodgrass for a little ride.  Cobra mentioned that during that time that Snodgrass' ankle bracelet was not working properly, the distance and the timing was off.
Cobra also mentioned that after his (Snodgrass') furniture gifts were not accepted at the HaLeighbug center Snodgrass would ride/drive by yelling biotchs, and biotchs get a job.  Also that Snodgrass was in the process of selling all of his furniture, and had already sold his boat and car.

Cobra also said that Snodgrass made the statement that I did not rape that little girl. I did not take her hymen away.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 06:23:04 PM
Not trying to make it about ME, just showing you how it works.

and doesn't work, it's sad to see DCF fail so may kids...........did they ever find that child here in Florida they lost ::MonkeyConfused::

That lil girl is Rilya Wilson.  Last I heard, in 2005 (after 3 years being missing), her former caregiver was charged with her murder, even tho they hadn't at that point found Rilya.  Here's one article:

http://www.wesh.com/news/4292896/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/4292896/detail.html)

But ya know what?  In 2002, this news agency found out that there were 532 children that DCF in Florida could not 'account for'.  Some turned out to be runaways etc.  Still IMO, disgusting.  This news agency themselves looked for 24 South Florida children on the missing list, and turned up nine - two of those in under three hours.  So it's not like DCF looked very hard, they didn't even try.  IMO

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/search/sfl-amissing11aug11,0,6132015.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/search/sfl-amissing11aug11,0,6132015.story)

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::




That's her name, thanks Wyks~he rest of your post is actually frigthening ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 06:29:07 PM
Not trying to make it about ME, just showing you how it works.

and doesn't work, it's sad to see DCF fail so may kids...........did they ever find that child here in Florida they lost ::MonkeyConfused::

That lil girl is Rilya Wilson.  Last I heard, in 2005 (after 3 years being missing), her former caregiver was charged with her murder, even tho they hadn't at that point found Rilya.  Here's one article:

http://www.wesh.com/news/4292896/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/4292896/detail.html)

But ya know what?  In 2002, this news agency found out that there were 532 children that DCF in Florida could not 'account for'.  Some turned out to be runaways etc.  Still IMO, disgusting.  This news agency themselves looked for 24 South Florida children on the missing list, and turned up nine - two of those in under three hours.  So it's not like DCF looked very hard, they didn't even try.  IMO

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/search/sfl-amissing11aug11,0,6132015.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/search/sfl-amissing11aug11,0,6132015.story)

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::




That's her name, thanks Wyks~he rest of your post is actually frigthening ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

I hear ya IM!!  It's not just Florida, this is a widespread 'problem'.  However, to put it as tactfully as possible, Florida is among the worst states for foster children. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 06:30:59 PM
Why would Tommy after getting a call that he wasn't expecting from Ron go there and do something to Haleigh ? He has no motive at all. They were on good terms before all of this.
That is just too bizarre, isn't it ? He has no record of hurting children in any way shape or form. He has kiddos of his own. 
Maybe with all the blame game going on, he didn't want to place himself there, maybe he was trying to protect his sister. Probably PCSD knew about those 20 x calls and the call to Tommy way before we did. He didn't come on NG and we don't know what he disclosed. Her family was right there and they were questioned early on.   
I agree, why would Tommy, I would like to see info that shows that Tommy would hurt a child, except for Misty saying he messed with her. Any indication that DCF has been called to Tommy's house, any reports from neighbors that have seen anything in the form of abuse with kids.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Today on Blogger Talk Radio, Cobra was not talking about the HaLeigh case in particular, but about the bonding business in Florida, LE in Putnam County, and his own Putnam County criminal case.

We all are aware that Cobra's case is based on his handcuffing and taking Snodgrass for a little ride.  Cobra mentioned that during that time that Snodgrass' ankle bracelet was not working properly, the distance and the timing was off.
Cobra also mentioned that after his (Snodgrass') furniture gifts were not accepted at the HaLeighbug center Snodgrass would ride/drive by yelling biotchs, and biotchs get a job.  Also that Snodgrass was in the process of selling all of his furniture, and had already sold his boat and car.

Cobra also said that Snodgrass made the statement that I did not rape that little girl. I did not take her hymen away.

that is sick and disgusting...whether he really made the statement or Cobra is making it up, either way, it is sick to hear imo..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 06:32:34 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

O/T ~ we had almost exact same problem.  Our lawyer advised us to break the law in order to protect our granddaughter.  We nanny-cam'd our daughter-in-law. 
I can not even begin to tell you the things we have discussed here in this home to get my gs out of there. I don't have the option of setting up cameras at his dads home.  The dad kept and him did not return him after a visit and because gs had been with mom since birth makes no difference.  LE will not remove him from the home because dad kept him after a visit and filed for custody and now refuses to return him.  My advice to any single mom that has had a DNA test on the dad is to go the extra mile and file custody paperwork to make sure you retain custody.  We never thought my daughter would need custody of paperwork because she had physical custody per the child support order.  In Florida that is NOT enough.  Apparently any father who has a DNA test can refuse to return the child, file custody papers and there is nothing anyone can do, short of stealing the child back, that will matter to LE until a Court has rendered it's decision.   There are a lot of things I can not do right now because doing so would prevent me from ever helping or finding anyone.  It's sad really.  The people who abide by the law often pay the price.

All:  Sorry off topic but in a way it is relevant as to what Crystal may have been through with this system.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 06:34:04 PM
Sheriff's Office Responds to Haleigh Rumors

 Dave Wax  Ann Butler     Created: 10/13/2009 2:12:02 PM    Updated: 10/13/2009 4:20:32 PM


PALATKA, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has responded about the latest series of rumors regarding the search for Haleigh Cummings.

Officials said not a day goes by that someone doesn't report seeing the girl who disappeared from her home in Satsuma in February when she was 5-years-old.

Calls have come in from as far away as Texas, California and Massachusetts. Calls about sightings in nearby areas come in very frequently.

Recently, two sightings -- one each in Georgia and South Carolina -- were reported. There was videotape evidence for one of the sightings. However, the girl in the video was confirmed to be someone other than Haleigh Cummings.

Sheriff's Office officials say they still follow up on every lead that comes in, and they work with other law enforcement agencies to help them track down distant leads.

Despite the tips -- well over 4,000 -- officials are still no closer to finding out what happened to Haleigh.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=146582&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
Thank you Wyks for Rilya's name.  I could not believe I had forgotten it either.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 06:36:38 PM
dsntslp:
sorry that you are experiencing this with your grand child...I can't imagine how horrible that would be...
you probably have to watch what you say or do for fear that the father will then keep the child from you..how very sad...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 06:37:32 PM
Hymen...as in the thin tissue that...

That is one man that needs hanged in the town square imo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 06:43:06 PM
Hymen...as in the thin tissue that...

That is one man that needs hanged in the town square imo.

I agree...
especially if he said such a thing...what grown man thinks of such a thing to say about a missing 5 yr old girl??? (5 at the time) beyond sickening this guy!

mind you, I am not sure that I believe anything that comes out of Cobra's mouth either...but shame on him if he made up such a thing too! why would he be thinking that way either in that case? sick sick sick!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 06:43:17 PM
dsntslp:
sorry that you are experiencing this with your grand child...I can't imagine how horrible that would be...
you probably have to watch what you say or do for fear that the father will then keep the child from you..how very sad...
Yes, Thank you.  It is very hard to only do what is legal sometimes.  I am counting on the Judge to do what is right and when he sees this mess he will likely be extremely aggravated that the dad has pulled this.  I guess the only reason I am trying to share this, with the possibility some great blogger will talk about it later, is so that people understand that what is right is not always the way the law works when DCF and the Court and children are involved.

Off to eat supper now.
Thank you for the convo all.  BBL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 13, 2009, 06:44:53 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

O/T ~ we had almost exact same problem.  Our lawyer advised us to break the law in order to protect our granddaughter.  We nanny-cam'd our daughter-in-law. 
I can not even begin to tell you the things we have discussed here in this home to get my gs out of there. I don't have the option of setting up cameras at his dads home.  The dad kept and him did not return him after a visit and because gs had been with mom since birth makes no difference.  LE will not remove him from the home because dad kept him after a visit and filed for custody and now refuses to return him.  My advice to any single mom that has had a DNA test on the dad is to go the extra mile and file custody paperwork to make sure you retain custody.  We never thought my daughter would need custody of paperwork because she had physical custody per the child support order.  In Florida that is NOT enough.  Apparently any father who has a DNA test can refuse to return the child, file custody papers and there is nothing anyone can do, short of stealing the child back, that will matter to LE until a Court has rendered it's decision.   There are a lot of things I can not do right now because doing so would prevent me from ever helping or finding anyone.  It's sad really.  The people who abide by the law often pay the price.

All:  Sorry off topic but in a way it is relevant as to what Crystal may have been through with this system.

dsn ~ Would you like to jump over to musings & talk to me for a minute about this? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 06:44:53 PM
Thank you Wyks for Rilya's name.  I could not believe I had forgotten it either.

You're welcome.  And it's understandable, as it's been a long long time.  Many look back to Rilya's case as one that opened the eyes of many in the public.  There have been others, of course, but many still point to what was learned about DCF in Florida because of what happened with Rilya.  From what I understand, she's not been found yet.  So sad. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 06:46:35 PM
FYI~ according to a poster on another forum, DCF is not very happy with all the phone calls they have been receiving.
Thanks, can't say I blame them, they need to check on the homelife of Jr again, but I'm sure all the calls is an inconvenience to them. Let's just hope they check on the little boy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 06:48:03 PM

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 06:49:15 PM
BTW, my grandson...is two.  Two years and four mos.  Who in their right mind has need to spank a baby that age?  Only someone who has failed anger management 4 times and has a history of multiple DUI's (no DL) and battery.  GS says the bruises are because daddy spanked him.  When he said that I stopped questioning him at all so nobody could say I was leading him.  Yeah...DCF...call them...go ahead...

O/T ~ we had almost exact same problem.  Our lawyer advised us to break the law in order to protect our granddaughter.  We nanny-cam'd our daughter-in-law. 
I can not even begin to tell you the things we have discussed here in this home to get my gs out of there. I don't have the option of setting up cameras at his dads home.  The dad kept and him did not return him after a visit and because gs had been with mom since birth makes no difference.  LE will not remove him from the home because dad kept him after a visit and filed for custody and now refuses to return him.  My advice to any single mom that has had a DNA test on the dad is to go the extra mile and file custody paperwork to make sure you retain custody.  We never thought my daughter would need custody of paperwork because she had physical custody per the child support order.  In Florida that is NOT enough.  Apparently any father who has a DNA test can refuse to return the child, file custody papers and there is nothing anyone can do, short of stealing the child back, that will matter to LE until a Court has rendered it's decision.   There are a lot of things I can not do right now because doing so would prevent me from ever helping or finding anyone.  It's sad really.  The people who abide by the law often pay the price.

All:  Sorry off topic but in a way it is relevant as to what Crystal may have been through with this system.

BOLDED~So true and sad ::MonkeyWaa::

My heart breaks for you, your daughter and your GS, and wow that does sound like Crystals case to some degree, he took them on a working vacation and never returned them and he's never had a DNA test either. I was so protective when my grandson was born that I told my daughter all the horror stories of these cases and what happened to my stechildren when their dad basically bought ad aid for them and used every trick in the book to keep them from her, including any phone contact that she agreed to let me adopt him, thus circumventing any possible custody issues in the future if he had survived. I know that sounds harsh, but I'd go to hell and back to protect my kids and grandkids and have seen way to many stories like yours.  ::MonkeyAngel:: God bless you and your family will be in my prayers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 06:52:29 PM
FYI~ according to a poster on another forum, DCF is not very happy with all the phone calls they have been receiving.
Thanks, can't say I blame them, they need to check on the homelife of Jr again, but I'm sure all the calls is an inconvenience to them. Let's just hope they check on the little boy.

If nothing else, them being such a center of attention may just force them to open an investigation, and find out whatever the facts are re: Jr and his living environment.  At least there may be that.  It's up to them, of course, what their decision will be, based on actual facts in what they find.. or don't find. 

All anyone can do is make the call.  That isn't, IMO, charging anyone with anything based on rumor/s.  All that is doing is alerting DCF to a possible immediate danger to Jr., where DCF may not have been paying attention before. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 06:53:48 PM
Not trying to make it about ME, just showing you how it works.

and doesn't work, it's sad to see DCF fail so may kids...........did they ever find that child here in Florida they lost ::MonkeyConfused::

That lil girl is Rilya Wilson.  Last I heard, in 2005 (after 3 years being missing), her former caregiver was charged with her murder, even tho they hadn't at that point found Rilya.  Here's one article:

http://www.wesh.com/news/4292896/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/4292896/detail.html)

But ya know what?  In 2002, this news agency found out that there were 532 children that DCF in Florida could not 'account for'.  Some turned out to be runaways etc.  Still IMO, disgusting.  This news agency themselves looked for 24 South Florida children on the missing list, and turned up nine - two of those in under three hours.  So it's not like DCF looked very hard, they didn't even try.  IMO

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/search/sfl-amissing11aug11,0,6132015.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/search/sfl-amissing11aug11,0,6132015.story)

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::




That's her name, thanks Wyks~he rest of your post is actually frigthening ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

I hear ya IM!!  It's not just Florida, this is a widespread 'problem'.  However, to put it as tactfully as possible, Florida is among the worst states for foster children. 



your right!I'm so grateful my daughter is grown and the judge terminated my son's fathers rights.......that being said I already posted what I had planned to do with Eli if he had lived........sad when you have to think that far ahead of the curve, but that's just me. ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 06:56:38 PM
Am telling ya, I was stunned to read that any non-custody parent can take one or more children on vacation, keep the child/ren, hide them from the custodial parent, (isn't that ermmm illegal in and of itself?) then while gone, apply for custody... and GET IT!!  That, IMO, speaks to how broken our system is. 

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 06:57:25 PM
My thoughts and prayers for all our posters, and all the families across the country that have had to deal with such unfairness with DCF. So very upsetting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 13, 2009, 07:06:26 PM
My thoughts and prayers for all our posters, and all the families across the country that have had to deal with such unfairness with DCF. So very upsetting.

I second that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 07:06:48 PM

your right!I'm so grateful my daughter is grown and the judge terminated my son's fathers rights.......that being said I already posted what I had planned to do with Eli if he had lived........sad when you have to think that far ahead of the curve, but that's just me. ::MonkeyKiss::

It is sad to need to look so far ahead, IM.  Am glad tho that some folks do, 'just in case', no matter how hard it is at the time.  Show's that they, and you, have a very caring heart.   ::MonkeyKiss:: 

I also am in a quandry as to what to do for the future.  Oldest is no longer living with his baby mama and my grandson, who will be 3 next month.  With every beat of my heart, I do know that grandson is better off away from son, and with his baby mama.  My heart tells me no no no, I want to see him grow up, be involved in his life, etc.  My mind tells me the best thing is to advise her to go after sole and legal custody, and ask the judge to never let my son darken their door again.  It's real hard when it's your own that the child needs to be protected from.  Sigh. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 07:10:31 PM

your right!I'm so grateful my daughter is grown and the judge terminated my son's fathers rights.......that being said I already posted what I had planned to do with Eli if he had lived........sad when you have to think that far ahead of the curve, but that's just me. ::MonkeyKiss::

It is sad to need to look so far ahead, IM.  Am glad tho that some folks do, 'just in case', no matter how hard it is at the time.  Show's that they, and you, have a very caring heart.   ::MonkeyKiss:: 

I also am in a quandry as to what to do for the future.  Oldest is no longer living with his baby mama and my grandson, who will be 3 next month.  With every beat of my heart, I do know that grandson is better off away from son, and with his baby mama.  My heart tells me no no no, I want to see him grow up, be involved in his life, etc.  My mind tells me the best thing is to advise her to go after sole and legal custody, and ask the judge to never let my son darken their door again.  It's real hard when it's your own that the child needs to be protected from.  Sigh. 


Oh Wyks~That has got to be a horrific decision, but I know how well you think things thru and am sure you'll make the right decision........my heart goes out to you to :smt056


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: can on October 13, 2009, 07:10:51 PM
Wyks, I'm sorry.  :smt058


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 07:11:07 PM
My thoughts and prayers for all our posters, and all the families across the country that have had to deal with such unfairness with DCF. So very upsetting.

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sad_yes.gif)  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sad_yes.gif)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 13, 2009, 07:17:49 PM
I wonder if Putnam will be escorting Lisa back tomorrow after her court appearance..


Defendant Details       

 
Defendant Case Number Defendant Status Case Status Crosling, Lisa Carmen GS460391 PENDING OPEN   
 
 
 
 
 Appearance Details       

 
Date Judge Court Room   
10/14/2009 - 09:00 A.M. Holt, Aaron  Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B Johnson, Attorney Martesha L.
Reason  Review       
 
 
 
 
 Charge Details       

 
Charged/Cited Offense(s) Convicted Disposition Bond Date
Fugitive     $0   
 

         
 
 
 
 
 Charging Instrument   
 
 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 13, 2009, 07:18:27 PM
I wonder if Putnam will be escorting Lisa back tomorrow after her court appearance..


Defendant Details       

 
Defendant Case Number Defendant Status Case Status Crosling, Lisa Carmen GS460391 PENDING OPEN   
 
 
 
 
 Appearance Details       

 
Date Judge Court Room   
10/14/2009 - 09:00 A.M. Holt, Aaron  Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B Johnson, Attorney Martesha L.
Reason  Review       
 
 
 
 
 Charge Details       

 
Charged/Cited Offense(s) Convicted Disposition Bond Date
Fugitive     $0   
 

         
 
 
 
 
 Charging Instrument   
 
 
 



http://ccc.nashville.gov/portal/page/portal/ccc/caseSearch/caseSearchPublic/caseSearchPublicResults/?a1=1004965|2564069|CJIS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 07:18:39 PM
Thanks IM and Can.   ::MonkeyKiss::

I just hope my oldest never finds out that I'm the one who got baby mama and grandson away safely, then reported his @ss.  Hope he doesn't read here!   

:shock:  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/unsure.gif)   :silent:

Whatever, it was the right thing to do.  Feelings aside. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 07:19:09 PM
Wyks...sorry for you....
I know that you will do the right thing.
will you still be able to see your grand child? I sure hope so...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
I wonder if Putnam will be escorting Lisa back tomorrow after her court appearance..

Defendant Details       
Defendant Case Number Defendant Status Case Status Crosling, Lisa Carmen GS460391 PENDING OPEN   
 Appearance Details       
Date Judge Court Room   
10/14/2009 - 09:00 A.M. Holt, Aaron  Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B Johnson, Attorney Martesha L.
Reason  Review       
 
 Charge Details       
Charged/Cited Offense(s) Convicted Disposition Bond Date
Fugitive     $0   
 
 Charging Instrument   

It's my understanding that Lisa was en route to Putnam County today.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 07:23:35 PM
Wyks...sorry for you....
I know that you will do the right thing.
will you still be able to see your grand child? I sure hope so...

Thanks Cookie! 

And umm.. probably not.  It's kind of an all-out war against our family from hers, right now.  Probably best for grandson not to even try. 

Sorry O/T all..

I watch these cases, and am amazed at how often some do parallel the lives of readers, to some extent.  And in some cases, I'm left thinking, ..... there but for the grace of God, goes my family..  Am quite sure there are others thinking the same thing.  The fear of what 'could happen'..   My heart goes out to all of you too.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
Thanks IM and Can.   ::MonkeyKiss::

I just hope my oldest never finds out that I'm the one who got baby mama and grandson away safely, then reported his @ss.  Hope he doesn't read here!   

:shock:  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/unsure.gif)   :silent:

Whatever, it was the right thing to do.  Feelings aside. 


I'm at a loss for words Wkys for you and everyone battling these dilemnas, but I feel you did the right thing and know you will continue to do so, I hope she realizes that your grandson needs you in his life and you get to see him grow up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 07:25:23 PM
Fields said he withdrew over a disagreement in the way the case should be handled.
Misty Cummings' Attorney Quits
http://www.wesh.com/news/21286715/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 13, 2009, 07:26:17 PM
I wonder if Putnam will be escorting Lisa back tomorrow after her court appearance..

Defendant Details       
Defendant Case Number Defendant Status Case Status Crosling, Lisa Carmen GS460391 PENDING OPEN   
 Appearance Details       
Date Judge Court Room   
10/14/2009 - 09:00 A.M. Holt, Aaron  Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B Johnson, Attorney Martesha L.
Reason  Review       
 
 Charge Details       
Charged/Cited Offense(s) Convicted Disposition Bond Date
Fugitive     $0   
 
 Charging Instrument   

It's my understanding that Lisa was en route to Putnam County today.

Ok Was just going by the Nashville site


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 07:28:40 PM
I wonder if Putnam will be escorting Lisa back tomorrow after her court appearance..

Defendant Details       
Defendant Case Number Defendant Status Case Status Crosling, Lisa Carmen GS460391 PENDING OPEN   
 Appearance Details       
Date Judge Court Room   
10/14/2009 - 09:00 A.M. Holt, Aaron  Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B Johnson, Attorney Martesha L.
Reason  Review       
 
 Charge Details       
Charged/Cited Offense(s) Convicted Disposition Bond Date
Fugitive     $0   
 
 Charging Instrument   

It's my understanding that Lisa was en route to Putnam County today.

That's what I thought too, Brandi.  Was thinking her next court appearance would be in Putnam County.  That they had so many days to trade custody of her or whatever it's called, with tomorrow her atty in TN wrapping things up on her behalf?  Or maybe it's tomorrow in court that TN actually hands her over to FL?  Heck, I dunno.  Guess we'll see. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 13, 2009, 07:35:26 PM

I'm at a loss for words Wkys for you and everyone battling these dilemnas, but I feel you did the right thing and know you will continue to do so, I hope she realizes that your grandson needs you in his life and you get to see him grow up.

Thanks IM!   ::MonkeyKiss::  Hope so too. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 07:37:01 PM
Bud's Girl,
Sure, I 'll meet you in 'Musings'.  I don't think I have ever been there but I'll find it, lol.

Wyks,
Just be honest so you can live with yourself.  You have to face yourself in the mirror, not any of them.  This will also allow you to keep your credibility.  Should the tide ever turn years from now and it is your son who becomes the better parent you will still have your credibility and the Court will hopefully hear you then as well.

Thank you all for the kind words.

Ok, to Musings I go...sorry for so much off topic.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 07:39:25 PM
Hiya, wyks and all monkeys, just got caught up reading and I wish we could find out just on real clue to find HaLeigh.....it bothers me everyday and night as to just where is she and if she is gone, where is her little body, Gosh there has to be someway to find her.....
    I really wish that this Donna girl had been able to get the truth out of Misty, I dont care how its done, it needs to be done, HaLeigh deserves to be found and this sure doent need to be a cold case with no resolve.....

   Do we know if NG is gonna talk about Haleigh case tonight.?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 13, 2009, 07:41:07 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I have read all your post today with my heart breaking for all my monkey friends that have endured this hell you have gone thru....I will keep all of you in my prayers for God to comfort you and to give you  the strength that you need each day. ::MonkeyAngel::

I admire each of you ladies.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 13, 2009, 07:41:32 PM
Bud's Girl,
Sure, I 'll meet you in 'Musings'.  I don't think I have ever been there but I'll find it, lol.

Wyks,
Just be honest so you can live with yourself.  You have to face yourself in the mirror, not any of them.  This will also allow you to keep your credibility.  Should the tide ever turn years from now and it is your son who becomes the better parent you will still have your credibility and the Court will hopefully hear you then as well.

Thank you all for the kind words.

Ok, to Musings I go...sorry for so much off topic.

Link for musings:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6126.800  Can also be found by clicking on "home" in left hand corner of page under your avata, which gives you the index then scroll down till you see it  and also by using the "jump to" feature in the lower right hand of the page. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 13, 2009, 07:42:36 PM
I wonder if Putnam will be escorting Lisa back tomorrow after her court appearance..

Defendant Details       
Defendant Case Number Defendant Status Case Status Crosling, Lisa Carmen GS460391 PENDING OPEN   
 Appearance Details       
Date Judge Court Room   
10/14/2009 - 09:00 A.M. Holt, Aaron  Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B Johnson, Attorney Martesha L.
Reason  Review       
 
 Charge Details       
Charged/Cited Offense(s) Convicted Disposition Bond Date
Fugitive     $0   
 
 Charging Instrument   

It's my understanding that Lisa was en route to Putnam County today.

That's what I thought too, Brandi.  Was thinking her next court appearance would be in Putnam County.  That they had so many days to trade custody of her or whatever it's called, with tomorrow her atty in TN wrapping things up on her behalf?  Or maybe it's tomorrow in court that TN actually hands her over to FL?  Heck, I dunno.  Guess we'll see. 


I just checked Putnam inmates and arrests and warrants.. no Lisa Croslin or Crosling
maybe they have them in the green room... ::MonkeyTongue::



http://public.pcso.us/jail/history.aspx

http://public.pcso.us/jail/inmates.aspx

http://www.pcso.us/warrantsSearch


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 07:44:25 PM
Hey Jersey, there you are....Thanks for the links,,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 07:44:56 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I have read all your post today with my heart breaking for all my monkey friends that have endured this hell you have gone thru....I will keep all of you in my prayers for God to comfort you and to give you  the strength that you need each day. ::MonkeyAngel::

I admire each of you ladies.

I agree and admire them so much for doing what is right even when it's the hardest thing to do. God bless you all and you'll all be in my prayers too ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 07:48:19 PM
I wonder if Putnam will be escorting Lisa back tomorrow after her court appearance..


Defendant Details       

 
Defendant Case Number Defendant Status Case Status Crosling, Lisa Carmen GS460391 PENDING OPEN   
 
 
 
 
 Appearance Details       

 
Date Judge Court Room   
10/14/2009 - 09:00 A.M. Holt, Aaron  Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B Johnson, Attorney Martesha L.
Reason  Review       
 
 
 
 
 Charge Details       

 
Charged/Cited Offense(s) Convicted Disposition Bond Date
Fugitive     $0   
 

         
 
 
 
 
 Charging Instrument   
 
 
 



http://ccc.nashville.gov/portal/page/portal/ccc/caseSearch/caseSearchPublic/caseSearchPublicResults/?a1=1004965|2564069|CJIS

Scheduled Appearance List Sorted by Case Number

Session Date: 10142009
   Crosling, Lisa    GS460391       OPEN       10/14/2009  -  09:00       Review       Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B       Fugitive
http://ccc.nashville.gov/portal/pls/portal/PORTAL.PROD_RPT_GSLOAD_CASE%23.show


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 07:54:54 PM
I wonder if Putnam will be escorting Lisa back tomorrow after her court appearance..

Defendant Details       
Defendant Case Number Defendant Status Case Status Crosling, Lisa Carmen GS460391 PENDING OPEN   
 Appearance Details       
Date Judge Court Room   
10/14/2009 - 09:00 A.M. Holt, Aaron  Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B Johnson, Attorney Martesha L.
Reason  Review       
 
 Charge Details       
Charged/Cited Offense(s) Convicted Disposition Bond Date
Fugitive     $0   
 
 Charging Instrument   

It's my understanding that Lisa was en route to Putnam County today.

Ok Was just going by the Nashville site

What is showing on the docket page is Lisa appears in the Davidson County court for review tomorrow. Don't know if it is just that they have not updated their records or if she is still there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 08:03:31 PM
HaleighNewz RT @garden_virgo: VINE site info, Off. ID:239820 Name:LISA CARMEN CROSLING DOB:09/10/69 Age:40 Custody Status: (Transferred) Loc: Unk Agency
http://twitter.com/

I wonder if they transferred her to Metro because of the court date tomorrow, or because they're getting ready to send her back to Putnam?33 minutes ago from web
http://twitter.com/garden_virgo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 13, 2009, 08:03:42 PM
Thanks IM and Can.   ::MonkeyKiss::

I just hope my oldest never finds out that I'm the one who got baby mama and grandson away safely, then reported his @ss.  Hope he doesn't read here!   

:shock:  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/unsure.gif)   :silent:

Whatever, it was the right thing to do.  Feelings aside. 

   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 13, 2009, 08:04:10 PM
Hey Jersey, there you are....Thanks for the links,,

Your Welocme HH... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 08:06:54 PM
LISA CROSLING has been transferred from Davidson County Sheriff's Department to Metro Davidson County Detention Facility.Transfered10/13/09. about 1 hour ago from web 

@jobellc That's what the email said. I signed up for VINE through the prison. They send you info. when an inmate is transferred or released42 minutes ago from web in reply to jobellc

http://twitter.com/garden_virgo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 13, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
Where I live, we have some of the best legislation regarding child custody issues. For some reason, even with that, mistakes are made. And plenty of them too. Sometimes it is due to not enough workers. Sometimes it is who the dirtiest player is. Too many times here there is a inquest where it was all written down in their own papers.
..
I know of a Mom who seemed to just throw the towel in and let the Dad have the kids. She was running out of money to keep going to court to fight this guy who always wanted to not pay the child support. ( Big motive here ) Are the kids in harm's way, not in that case, but they would have been better off without having their Dad fight their Mom every week over some issue of his. The Mom lives in a different town now and sees the kiddos every second weekend. Not good for the kids or the Mum, but hey, it all worked for the Dad ! He won ! He'll pay for it later when the kids grow up a bit more. Hope they tell him where to go !
..
Getting back to Snodgrass, he is the perfect boogey man. Since there was no break in, how did he get in ? Didn't they toss his house ? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 13, 2009, 08:18:29 PM
LISA CROSLING has been transferred from Davidson County Sheriff's Department to Metro Davidson County Detention Facility.Transfered10/13/09. about 1 hour ago from web 

@jobellc That's what the email said. I signed up for VINE through the prison. They send you info. when an inmate is transferred or released42 minutes ago from web in reply to jobellc

http://twitter.com/garden_virgo

Thanks, Heart. That makes sense.

I almost signed up for the VINE thingy, then decided not to.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 08:24:42 PM
Where I live, we have some of the best legislation regarding child custody issues. For some reason, even with that, mistakes are made. And plenty of them too. Sometimes it is due to not enough workers. Sometimes it is who the dirtiest player is. Too many times here there is a inquest where it was all written down in their own papers.
..
I know of a Mom who seemed to just throw the towel in and let the Dad have the kids. She was running out of money to keep going to court to fight this guy who always wanted to not pay the child support. ( Big motive here ) Are the kids in harm's way, not in that case, but they would have been better off without having their Dad fight their Mom every week over some issue of his. The Mom lives in a different town now and sees the kiddos every second weekend. Not good for the kids or the Mum, but hey, it all worked for the Dad ! He won ! He'll pay for it later when the kids grow up a bit more. Hope they tell him where to go !
..
Getting back to Snodgrass, he is the perfect boogey man. Since there was no break in, how did he get in ? Didn't they toss his house ? 

 ::MonkeyEek:: Sounds like my ex hubby and his first wife and you are spot on about paying for it later, they cut him out of their lived when we divorce and they have nothing to do with him, no graduations invites, no wedding invites, nada zilch nothing, for all practical purposes in their mind they have no dad ::MonkeyTongue::


Snodgrass always comes to mind because I heard he had a boat, and if the door was never really locked he could have easily gotten in.........I don't remember whether they tossed his house or not, but bet some other monkey will  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 13, 2009, 08:29:03 PM
NG talking about Jon and Kate...I am thinking no Haleigh on her show tonite


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 08:30:13 PM
NG talking about Jon and Kate...I am thinking no Haleigh on her show tonite
I am so tired of hearing about these two people......OMG


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 08:33:44 PM
Snodgrass has always been on my hinky meter since I heard about him...the arse wipe that he is...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 13, 2009, 08:37:28 PM
Snodgrass has always been on my hinky meter since I heard about him...the arse wipe that he is...
His wife/ex-wife Joann said that misty was always at their house asking for money and drugs....could that be the threesome that they were talking about that took place in return for drugs?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 08:41:34 PM
Thats one of the things I dont understand, why in the world after what Misty supossingly went through would she even want to go over to smadgrass's house or anywhere around him for that matter, much less have HaLeigh anywhere around this Man.....makes my skin crawl just to think that he actually had access to any kids.....yuk


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 08:41:56 PM
Snodgrass has always been on my hinky meter since I heard about him...the arse wipe that he is...
His wife/ex-wife Joann said that misty was always at their house asking for money and drugs....could that be the threesome that they were talking about that took place in return for drugs?

ewwwwww...anything is possible with that crowd of losers...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 08:44:31 PM
NG talking about Jon and Kate...I am thinking no Haleigh on her show tonite

I know, almost the entire hour. Who gives a chit about Jon and Kate. Another dysfunctional family that have the nerve to air their dirty laundry on the tele.

Unbelievable!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 08:47:23 PM
NG talking about Jon and Kate...I am thinking no Haleigh on her show tonite

I know, almost the entire hour. Who gives a chit about Jon and Kate. Another dysfunctional family that have the nerve to air their dirty laundry on the tele.

Unbelievable!

that is about it Heart! I am really sick of both Jon and Kate...they are both a mess...all they care about is the money that their kids are making for them...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 08:54:49 PM
Snodgrass has always been on my hinky meter since I heard about him...the arse wipe that he is...
His wife/ex-wife Joann said that misty was always at their house asking for money and drugs....could that be the threesome that they were talking about that took place in return for drugs?

ewwwwww...anything is possible with that crowd of losers...

According to one of AH's articles that coped  drugs from someone that Sunday, the day prior to HaLeigh missing. Remember the school bus stop conversation that one of AH's witnesses said she overheard between Misty and some other female in another vehicle. The talk was supposedly about some bad chit that they had got the night before.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 13, 2009, 09:00:02 PM
Do we know how far that snodgrass lived from Ron's trailer? Or if he was required to wear as ankle bracelet at the time...According to his charges Misty and Haleigh sure met his mo....Big sister lil sister.....It bothers me when Misty said that Haleigh wanted to be just like her...So if Misty dressed up and made pictures would Haleigh think that it was ok?...Or would Misty make pictures and trade them to Snodgrass for drugs ....maybe he got thinking about more than just pictures and took her one night?....and he probably figured he was going to prison anyway..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 09:00:26 PM
NG talking about Jon and Kate...I am thinking no Haleigh on her show tonite

I know, almost the entire hour. Who gives a chit about Jon and Kate. Another dysfunctional family that have the nerve to air their dirty laundry on the tele.

Unbelievable!

that is about it Heart! I am really sick of both Jon and Kate...they are both a mess...all they care about is the money that their kids are making for them...
They finally got Octu Mom out of the spotlight (applause), now they are on to Jon and Kate (thumbs down).


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: crimedontpay on October 13, 2009, 09:01:54 PM
Hi, all you Monkeys!  I see nothing much has changed on Haleigh front while I've been missing the past few days.  My household has changed drastically this past week and that has pretty much elminated any time I have for participating and really getting involved in this case, but I try to catch a few pages of posts here and there.

Off topic before I go ... Wyks ... I absolutely understand your dilemma.  I've been there ... am still there, matter of fact.  All we can do is what our gut tells us to do and let matters unfold as they will.  For myself, I just try to avoid having regrets I know I'll have later if I don't so what my gut tells me is the right thing to do.

Thanks Monkeys for letting me be a part of the discussion.  I'll be lurking when I can!

 
::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 09:08:39 PM
o/t....but does any monkeys know what the name of this medication that you can give to babies with gas or colic, its been around for years and it smells really bad......like rotten onions, my Mom use to make me buy it for my children when they were babies.........TIA...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 09:10:31 PM
Do we know how far that snodgrass lived from Ron's trailer? Or if he was required to wear as ankle bracelet at the time...According to his charges Misty and Haleigh sure met his mo....Big sister lil sister.....It bothers me when Misty said that Haleigh wanted to be just like her...So if Misty dressed up and made pictures would Haleigh think that it was ok?...Or would Misty make pictures and trade them to Snodgrass for drugs ....maybe he got thinking about more than just pictures and took her one night?....and he probably figured he was going to prison anyway..... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Total Distance: 5.8 mi
Total Time: 13 Minutes

from: 101 Ganey Ln



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 09:12:11 PM
o/t....but does any monkeys know what the name of this medication that you can give to babies with gas or colic, its been around for years and it smells really bad......like rotten onions, my Mom use to make me buy it for my children when they were babies.........TIA...

Asphidity


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 13, 2009, 09:13:06 PM
o/t....but does any monkeys know what the name of this medication that you can give to babies with gas or colic, its been around for years and it smells really bad......like rotten onions, my Mom use to make me buy it for my children when they were babies.........TIA...

Hi HH.  Was it paragoric?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: orbison11 on October 13, 2009, 09:14:23 PM
o/t....but does any monkeys know what the name of this medication that you can give to babies with gas or colic, its been around for years and it smells really bad......like rotten onions, my Mom use to make me buy it for my children when they were babies.........TIA...
,,,,,,
i remember something called phenergan, i know i spelled it wrong, but that would be the phoenetic sound of it i think



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 09:15:18 PM
o/t....but does any monkeys know what the name of this medication that you can give to babies with gas or colic, its been around for years and it smells really bad......like rotten onions, my Mom use to make me buy it for my children when they were babies.........TIA...

Hi HH.  Was it paragoric?
Thats it MuffyBee thanks for answering,.....and Thank You Heart......my grandmother use to make us take that if we mentioned bellyache, and since I just saw the both of them posted, I had them mixed up.....Thanks again....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 09:17:26 PM
they actually have some new stuff on the market for gassy or colicy babies...my little grand daughter had to have it...can buy it at Target and Walmart...just about anywhere in the pharmacy area where baby meds are sold...works really well...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 09:18:42 PM
You can get that paragoric no more they stop giveing that out awhile back. My mom use to give it to my little brother because he would never sleep. If it is the same as what I am thinking.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 09:19:19 PM
My Monkey,
Thank you for the prayers and kudos.  Please do pray, I believe in prayer.

Muffy Bee,
Thank you for directions to Musings.

All,
Did anyone confirm a name for the A/C guy?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 13, 2009, 09:20:18 PM
Do we know how far that snodgrass lived from Ron's trailer? Or if he was required to wear as ankle bracelet at the time...According to his charges Misty and Haleigh sure met his mo....Big sister lil sister.....It bothers me when Misty said that Haleigh wanted to be just like her...So if Misty dressed up and made pictures would Haleigh think that it was ok?...Or would Misty make pictures and trade them to Snodgrass for drugs ....maybe he got thinking about more than just pictures and took her one night?....and he probably figured he was going to prison anyway..... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Total Distance: 5.8 mi
Total Time: 13 Minutes

from: 101 Ganey Ln


Thank you !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 09:20:35 PM
I mean you can't get paragoric anymore


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 09:22:49 PM
Emetrol for upset stomach.

Umm, for gas...  lemme' go get the bottle of drops for infants, brb.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 13, 2009, 09:23:27 PM
:smt018 I've said it over and over... Ron didn't do it and he doesn't know where she is. Mark my words munks  : jmho, lol, but you wait and see...

Hi Nut, I hate to say this but, I think your truck is haunted.. I think I saw a ghost in there...

B O O !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 09:23:35 PM
My Monkey,
Thank you for the prayers and kudos.  Please do pray, I believe in prayer.

Muffy Bee,
Thank you for directions to Musings.

All,
Did anyone confirm a name for the A/C guy?

Will do every night for your precious grandson ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 09:25:57 PM
HH~mylicon drops can help for tummy aches, of course paregoric was the best for tummy problems and teething ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 09:27:50 PM
You can get that paragoric no more they stop giveing that out awhile back. My mom use to give it to my little brother because he would never sleep. If it is the same as what I am thinking.

 ::MonkeyEek:: When did they quit giving it? My stepson just had it 6 months ago when he got E-Coli......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 09:28:04 PM
Awww!  The gas stuff we have for infants is generic.  They only say gas relief drops for infants.  No "name"  Sorry.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 09:28:41 PM
Really , you cant buy paragoric anymore, dang that shows how long its ben since mine were babies, ok I will wait and see what dsneslp, comes up with then......I have to get something that you can buy over the counter for the time being..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 13, 2009, 09:32:10 PM
It is really strange how that A/C guy has been able to remain un-named.....but what is even stranger is that Ron called and asked Misty if he was there yet and then wanted to talk to him...hummm about what...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 13, 2009, 09:37:02 PM
Awww!  The gas stuff we have for infants is generic.  They only say gas relief drops for infants.  No "name"  Sorry.
OK  Thanks anyway.......and Thanks Island and everyone that answeed me, Ill write it down and go look for what i can in the morning,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 09:49:52 PM
Daughter is informing me that Mylicon works well and is probably what the no name stuff I have is.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 13, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 09:53:03 PM
Daughter is informing me that Mylicon works well and is probably what the no name stuff I have is.

that is the stuff I was trying to think of that my grand daughter had to use..poor little mite had acid reflux when she was really tiny...better now..thank goodness...she is only 1 yr old now .... ::MonkeyKiss::  love her madly....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 09:54:19 PM
ARS of Satsuma
Satsuma, FL 32189
 
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2 cents..pretty sure the a/c guy is not a suspect from what was printed early on ....do you have some thoughts on him?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 09:57:51 PM
Daughter is informing me that Mylicon works well and is probably what the no name stuff I have is.

Most likely it is, almost are gas drops are simethicone (generic name)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 10:02:28 PM
Aw, Im, just saw where you said the same thing.  Great minds and all that, lol.  TY.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 13, 2009, 10:02:44 PM
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2 cents..pretty sure the a/c guy is not a suspect from what was printed early on ....do you have some thoughts on him?
No I don't think that he is a suspect either but I was just wondering stuff like how did he keep his name out of this ...what did Ron say to him ...what did he see when he was there ...what was Misty like???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 10:03:20 PM
The A/C guy...
I just could not remember hearing a real name.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 13, 2009, 10:05:36 PM
ARS of Satsuma
Satsuma, FL 32189
 
Exceptional Heating & A/C Service. Fast & Available 24/7.
 


2 cents..pretty sure the a/c guy is not a suspect from what was printed early on ....do you have some thoughts on him?
No I don't think that he is a suspect either but I was just wondering stuff like how did he keep his name out of this ...what did Ron say to him ...what did he see when he was there ...what was Misty like???

yeah...no interviews, no gossip about him, no nothing...like he dropped off the face of the earth isn't it...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 10:10:26 PM
Aw, Im, just saw where you said the same thing.  Great minds and all that, lol.  TY.
::MonkeyJnBox::

I used bottles of it when my kids were little, it will be forever imprinted on what brain I have left ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 10:15:23 PM
Aw, Im, just saw where you said the same thing.  Great minds and all that, lol.  TY.
::MonkeyJnBox::

I used bottles of it when my kids were little, it will be forever imprinted on what brain I have left ::MonkeyBike::

You can't buy paragoric over the counter anymore, because dumb-azz parents overdosed their kids with it to make them sleep.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 10:22:21 PM
Aw, Im, just saw where you said the same thing.  Great minds and all that, lol.  TY.
::MonkeyJnBox::

I used bottles of it when my kids were little, it will be forever imprinted on what brain I have left ::MonkeyBike::

You can't buy paragoric over the counter anymore, because dumb-azz parents overdosed their kids with it to make them sleep.
There's a good question.  What date did they stop selling it?  Before June of 2008?  (The Anthony case, sorry)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 13, 2009, 10:30:22 PM
You can still get phenergan. 
<snip>
PRESCRIBED FOR: Promethazine is prescribed for treating nausea or vomiting, motion sickness, and allergic reactions and for sedation. <snip>
http://www.medicinenet.com/promethazine/article.htm
 

<snip>
What is Phenergan?


Phenergan is an antihistamine. It blocks the effects of the naturally occurring chemical histamine in your body.

Phenergan is used to treat allergy symptoms such as itching, runny nose, sneezing, itchy or watery eyes, hives, and itchy skin rashes.

Phenergan also prevents motion sickness, and treats nausea and vomiting or pain after surgery. It is also used as a sedative or sleep aid.

Phenergan may also be used for other purposes not listed in this medication guide.<snip>
http://www.drugs.com/phenergan.html

My son was prescribed phenergan for nausea and vomiting last year.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 10:30:45 PM
Aw, Im, just saw where you said the same thing.  Great minds and all that, lol.  TY.
::MonkeyJnBox::

I used bottles of it when my kids were little, it will be forever imprinted on what brain I have left ::MonkeyBike::

You can't buy paragoric over the counter anymore, because dumb-azz parents overdosed their kids with it to make them sleep.
There's a good question.  What date did they stop selling it?  Before June of 2008?  (The Anthony case, sorry)

Don't hold back Darla ::MonkeyTongue:: tell us how you really feel!

You can still get it by RX, and 17yrs ago I still had to have an RX, but I know whe I was a baby it was OTC.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 10:37:04 PM
So it would have been prescription only and not OTC.  TY, ty.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 10:40:36 PM
It has really been a long time since they took it off the market for over the counter.

And yeah I can tell it the way I feel it. I am so sick of these sorry azz parents doing harm to their kids. If you don't want them give them to someone who does. Oh wait....that would cut out all the welfare checks and food stamps so they can sit home on their lazy butts and drink, drug, and shack up and doff off another innocent child that they don't want every nine months.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 10:45:34 PM
It has really been a long time since they took it off the market for over the counter.

And yeah I can tell it the way I feel it. I am so sick of these sorry azz parents doing harm to their kids. If you don't want them give them to someone who does. Oh wait....that would cut out all the welfare checks and food stamps so they can sit home on their lazy butts and drink, drug, and shack up and doff off another innocent child that they don't want every nine months.

Not to mention the "benefits" they are gathering on the back of the child ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 10:51:14 PM
It has really been a long time since they took it off the market for over the counter.

And yeah I can tell it the way I feel it. I am so sick of these sorry azz parents doing harm to their kids. If you don't want them give them to someone who does. Oh wait....that would cut out all the welfare checks and food stamps so they can sit home on their lazy butts and drink, drug, and shack up and doff off another innocent child that they don't want every nine months.

Not to mention the "benefits" they are gathering on the back of the child ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


That is the honest truth....you would not believe how many kids in the U.S. support their parents instead of the other way around.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 10:53:09 PM
I remember when my mom would have to get a presription for paragoc lol how ever u spell it. They did take it off the markett because of parents not useing it as directed. And it has been off the market for a long time. He is now 28.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 10:57:20 PM
I remember when my mom would have to get a presription for paragoc lol how ever u spell it. They did take it off the markett because of parents not useing it as directed. And it has been off the market for a long time. He is now 28.

Not unless it has been in the last 8 months, I just had my stepson at my house and he had it for E-Coli.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 10:59:29 PM
Omg you are not kidding my dad lived with me for 7 years. And about 2months ago my mom moved in. And my dad could not stand it he hates my mom. And he moved out. And now he hates me all because I did the same thing for my mom as I did for him. I did not tell my dad no. When he needed me. I sure could not turn my mom down. And he has said some reallr awefull things about me and has not talked to me or anything. And he has. Been in the hospital 3 times in a month n a half. He has copd and cronic lung disease. I am just so shocked that he treated me the way he has and still does. It hurts me bad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 11:01:52 PM
It has really been a long time since they took it off the market for over the counter.

And yeah I can tell it the way I feel it. I am so sick of these sorry azz parents doing harm to their kids. If you don't want them give them to someone who does. Oh wait....that would cut out all the welfare checks and food stamps so they can sit home on their lazy butts and drink, drug, and shack up and doff off another innocent child that they don't want every nine months.

Not to mention the "benefits" they are gathering on the back of the child ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


That is the honest truth....you would not believe how many kids in the U.S. support their parents instead of the other way around.

I'm afraid to even ask ow many, we have the A's and those who have followed their path ::MonkeyDevil2:: Octomom, Jon and Kate, and soooooo many others, makes me sick ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 13, 2009, 11:02:18 PM
Really , you cant buy paragoric anymore, dang that shows how long its ben since mine were babies, ok I will wait and see what dsneslp, comes up with then......I have to get something that you can buy over the counter for the time being..

HH - It may be different everywhere --  where I live you can't get paregoric over the counter, but you can get it behind the counter.  Have to ask one of the pharmacy employees for it & depending on the pharmacy, they may scan your driver's license or have you sign for it, no prescription.

Just like if you get the original Nyquil with the good stuff in it. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 11:03:18 PM
Well don't know bout that. The only thing I know is they don't give it out for you to give to your child that has problems sleeping.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 13, 2009, 11:04:14 PM
Luvmyboys, I was talking about little kids whose parents collect welfare checks and what not because they are to lazy to work...not grown kids taking care of elderly parents.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 11:06:33 PM
Well don't know bout that. The only thing I know is they don't give it out for you to give to your child that has problems sleeping.

It's main usage is for intestinal problems (thats why some pediatricians will give it for colic, and mine gave it for teething), but they are usually pretty rigid as it's a derivative of Opium ::MonkeyTongue:: But if you have severe intestinal problems it's usually not that hard to get prescribed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 11:08:17 PM
Oh my bad darla


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 13, 2009, 11:11:29 PM

I wonder why Marie stopped twittering -- or did she open a different account?  The one I have, the last time she left a msg was 10/7


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 11:22:17 PM
Paregoric, or camphorated tincture of opium, also known as tinctura opii camphorata, is a medication known for its antidiarrheal, antitussive, and analgesic properties. It was a household remedy in the 18th and 19th centuries, when it was widely used to calm fretful children. In the 20th century its use declined as governments regulated it. Until very recently in the U.S., paregoric was a Schedule V drug, and was available over-the-counter in pharmacies in several states by simply signing a register/logbook. Today, paregoric can still be found in the pharmacopeia, but it has been re-regulated as a Schedule III drug under the Controlled Substances Act.) The drug is available now only by medical prescription.

The principal active ingredient is powdered opium (containing the equivalent of 0.4 mg/mL of morphine). Other ingredients are benzoic acid, camphor, glycerin, anise oil and purified water. The main effect of this preparation is to increase the muscular tone of the intestine, and also to inhibit normal peristalsis. Its main medicinal use is to control fulminant diarrhea. It is also an antitussive (cough suppressant). Problems with its use include opiate dependency and analgesia which can mask symptoms of diseases that need treatment.

more...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paregoric


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Maven on October 13, 2009, 11:23:38 PM

I wonder why Marie stopped twittering -- or did she open a different account?  The one I have, the last time she left a msg was 10/7

I saw a few comments the other day round the net, that said Marie announced on her MySpace page that she was closing her MS and Twitter accounts because of nasty comments.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 11:26:19 PM
Omg you are not kidding my dad lived with me for 7 years. And about 2months ago my mom moved in. And my dad could not stand it he hates my mom. And he moved out. And now he hates me all because I did the same thing for my mom as I did for him. I did not tell my dad no. When he needed me. I sure could not turn my mom down. And he has said some reallr awefull things about me and has not talked to me or anything. And he has. Been in the hospital 3 times in a month n a half. He has copd and cronic lung disease. I am just so shocked that he treated me the way he has and still does. It hurts me bad.

OT: kinda.
Luvmyboys, I just wanted to say that we went through that with Dad and mom as well, and I don't know your dad, but for some,the prospect of death is over whelming and scary. It is more then some can handles and some just don't know how to handle it so they push everyone away by lashing out. I do think some lash out and push loved ones away because they think it may be easier on the loved ones when that time comes. Just love your dad and let him know you love him no matter what, it may hurt when he is mean,but when he is,just remind yourself that he is in a place that is over whelming him and he is trying to cope,he does not love you any less. In the end, you will be proud of yourself and know that he left this world knowing that you loved him no matter what. I know it is unsolicited advice,but I know how bad it hurts and just wanted to extend a hand. Hugs to you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 13, 2009, 11:28:39 PM
Good advice Searching - Now come take care of my dad!

Nah, I am kidding, I would not give him up for anything.
Still, I have heard your advice loud and clear.  TY


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 13, 2009, 11:28:56 PM
Really , you cant buy paragoric anymore, dang that shows how long its ben since mine were babies, ok I will wait and see what dsneslp, comes up with then......I have to get something that you can buy over the counter for the time being..

HH - It may be different everywhere --  where I live you can't get paregoric over the counter, but you can get it behind the counter.  Have to ask one of the pharmacy employees for it & depending on the pharmacy, they may scan your driver's license or have you sign for it, no prescription.

Just like if you get the original Nyquil with the good stuff in it. 

Paregoric was available 'over-the-counter' on a signature basis in the United States until the Controlled Substance Act classed it as a Schedule III Narcotic in 1973.
http://www.answers.com/topic/paregoric



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 13, 2009, 11:31:07 PM

I wonder why Marie stopped twittering -- or did she open a different account?  The one I have, the last time she left a msg was 10/7

I think she was thiking of not using her Myspace or twitter accounts because some people were directly tweeing ugly things to her, like how disppointed in her they were etc., and other nasty comments. I realize people talk bad about both sides of HaLeigh's family, but to send it addressed to her in a tweet knowing who she is in pretty sad ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 13, 2009, 11:37:26 PM
Good advice Searching - Now come take care of my dad!

Nah, I am kidding, I would not give him up for anything.
Still, I have heard your advice loud and clear.  TY

You are welcome. any time.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: luvmyboys on October 13, 2009, 11:44:20 PM
Awww ty searching for the very careing words. I needed to here them thanks again. Goodnite everyone


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 13, 2009, 11:58:16 PM
Good advice Searching - Now come take care of my dad!

Nah, I am kidding, I would not give him up for anything.
Still, I have heard your advice loud and clear.  TY
,,
Searching that is so kind, understanding and compassionate.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 14, 2009, 12:02:16 AM
Awww ty searching for the very careing words. I needed to here them thanks again. Goodnite everyone

You are welcome luvmyboys. Hope it helped. Good night and sleep well.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: IBE on October 14, 2009, 12:04:09 AM
OT

Klaas, I have been looking for you online. I tried to start a new toping in Missing Persons... the grandmother of the daughter of a good friend of mine is missing. Can't find the post and also with computer problems, wish you email again. Thanks  IBE


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 14, 2009, 12:06:17 AM
Good advice Searching - Now come take care of my dad!

Nah, I am kidding, I would not give him up for anything.
Still, I have heard your advice loud and clear.  TY
,,
Searching that is so kind, understanding and compassionate.


Thanks Kat_Gram, I just know how it feels and I also can not stand to see anyone hurt and try to help ease the pain somehow if I can. I am a bit strange I guess but even if I don't know them, It breaks my heart to see someone in pain..I just hope it helped.

Good night folks. had a long night and very early morning.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 12:10:21 AM
Island, are you still here, I dont know if I missed you or not.....Have ben reading E_MAILS.....and talking to KP on Twitter...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2009, 12:11:28 AM
OT

Klaas, I have been looking for you online. I tried to start a new toping in Missing Persons... the grandmother of the daughter of a good friend of mine is missing. Can't find the post and also with computer problems, wish you email again. Thanks  IBE

OT

I'm bringing this link from a post  in our Missing Person's Forum by long time poster IBE:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6274.msg981559#msg981559

Vera Ramirez is 86 yrs old. The grandmother of the daughter of a friend of mine. She took her daughter to work in South LA and hasn't been seen since. Reported to  Police but nothing heard. Pray please. I understand this is a lady in all true senses of the word.

Thanks,  IBE

I hope Vera Ramirez is found soon, and IBE can give us an update if she gets more information.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 14, 2009, 12:12:26 AM
OT


Klaas, I have been looking for you online. I tried to start a new toping in Missing Persons... the grandmother of the daughter of a good friend of mine is missing. Can't find the post and also with computer problems, wish you email again. Thanks  IBE
IBE did you find help yet?  I can try....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 14, 2009, 12:13:18 AM
Ah, good.  Muffy Bee has it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 12:27:43 AM
Island, are you still here, I dont know if I missed you or not.....Have ben reading E_MAILS.....and talking to KP on Twitter...

I'm here, just peeking in every now and then as I'm also working on the local case info here........I did see her on twitter. Sad that Marie has been personally attacked by some on her twitter acct. For somene to say they are disappointed in her becuase she is frustrated at the shenanigans of FAB and Misty is sad and makes me wonder about how sad their own life must be ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: callie4u on October 14, 2009, 12:59:32 AM
I very seldom post but have been reading these forums ever since Natalee Holloway went missing as she lived very near me in Alabama.  Anyway, I have a question for some of you smart monkeys.
My question is this.  I understand RC called Tommy C and asked him to check on Misty.  I know this is in question but according to phone records he did call TC.  Now if TC went over there and knocked and tried to summon someone to the door and the place was dark as he has stated then why didn't TC tell him that she was either not at home or that nobody came to the door.  Has it been shown that TC called Ronald back?  If so, and this report was given to RC, then why did he not go home at that time and check on them?
Otherwise, what was the point or purpose in calling Tommy in the first place.  Has anyone already addressed these concerns?
I so hope Haleigh is alive and well somewhere, but where could she be?  It is so sad for these children that cannot be safe around their own family.  SAD.  Caylee Anthony's fate is so sad and such a beautiful little girl who is not able to live her life.  Just makes me sick.  Thanks to all of you for all of your input and ideas.  I really enjoy reading and keeping up to date thru you all.

Also, let me say that I think Tim Miller is one of the most unselfish and giving person I know about and have tried to contribute a little to TES because of him and his HUGE heart.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: callie4u on October 14, 2009, 01:37:19 AM
Am I the only one here?  IM & HH where are you guys?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 14, 2009, 01:44:29 AM
Posted by IBE

Quote:
My friend just called. OK I have to take time to post this correctly.

Her daughter has received a text from her sister (my friend's other daughter) that they have found her, but no details

I told my friend, maybe they are all rejoicing and crying. My friend thinks she is deceased. I told her she could call me anytime tonight. Will keep you posted.
endquote


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 14, 2009, 01:48:36 AM
Hi Callie4U,

Your question seems to be the same question a lot of others are asking.

Sorry I can't be of more help but did not want you to think you were being ignored.

Maybe another  monkey who has not gone to bed yet can fill us both in on a reason for this???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: callie4u on October 14, 2009, 01:57:10 AM
Hi Callie4U,

Your question seems to be the same question a lot of others are asking.

Sorry I can't be of more help but did not want you to think you were being ignored.

Maybe another  monkey who has not gone to bed yet can fill us both in on a reason for this???

thank you


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 14, 2009, 02:03:37 AM
IBE quote:

Someone found her!!!

OK, she got lost, was in a car accident in Glendora. Is in the hospital, alive but don't know her condition! Thanks. Now prayers for her to heal as I understand she is very fragil.
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: IBE on October 14, 2009, 02:04:54 AM
Thanks dsntsip for updating here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 14, 2009, 02:08:49 AM
Aw, just trying to help.
Worried about stealing your thunder more than anything.
So glad she has been found.  I am in tears and do not even know her.  I would not have left that thread tonight though if you didn't.

Huge hugs,
Now I can go to bed, lol.

Bigger hugs and more prayers that she will pull through.

We will work on the CA Silver Alert when you are ready.  Just let me know.

Dsn


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: IBE on October 14, 2009, 02:09:13 AM
My mother drove cross country from Indiana when she was 86. Have a WWII Vet friend who is 86 plays golf 3 times a week and rides his bike to the Marina and sometimes El Segundo almost every.

Things to look forward to. ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 14, 2009, 02:10:54 AM
Yes,  always looking forward...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: IBE on October 14, 2009, 02:14:35 AM
Here a few hours ago I was having a pity party for I was bitten twice by a spider yesterday (now deceased with one slam on the leg). Bites are fist size but nothing compared to what the rest of this evening would bring.
 
Thank you Monkey Family. What has it been??? five years now??? Computer problems have kept me away, but this will be solved in Nov.

You guys were my family every night. Thanks.
 Love, IBE


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: IBE on October 14, 2009, 02:15:31 AM
Wow.. this is posting without me clicking on Post.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: IBE on October 14, 2009, 02:16:29 AM
Gads, these posts were supposed to be on the other site.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: IBE on October 14, 2009, 02:19:03 AM
Thanks Dsn

Bed for me too after some tea.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 14, 2009, 02:19:52 AM
Watch that spider bite for veins that look discolored and appear to keep growing... 

lol,
I'll quit now.

But really, did you get a good look athe spider?  Was it a brown recluse.  Do watch for what looks like a vein that gets darker and darker and seems to grow in a line.  Like the vein gets longer and longer.  (Like blood poisoning)

Ok, It's the mom in me...I'll quit now.  I really am going to bed now.

Hugs,
Nite*


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 14, 2009, 02:23:46 AM
Thank you all!   ::MonkeyKiss:: 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: clarice on October 14, 2009, 05:16:20 AM
I would like to try and clarify something I had inquired about recently. It was regarding TN's and her many addresses. I do not have her living on Rita Lane. Another poster just responded with White Pages saying she does. That is a new listing, I believe as of August this year. I have her addresses and she did not live on Rita Lane on Feb 9 of this year. Of course, unless she was renting two separate homes. One being in Fruitland Park (84 miles away) and one being in PP. She does not/did not show as living in PP on Feb 9. She had moved to Fruitland Park Nov 08. When all this was being discussed and posted, there was a change made to White Pages. Seems to be what all are taken as fact. Not in my opinion since that was not on the White Pages till recently.

If Teresa was not living at PP and it can be proven, then there is an entire new way of looking at the case due to time restraints and travel. Of course I don't think she could have made it to Satsuma either if RC called her during or after 911 either. He had to have called her before....but how much before it yet to be determined.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on October 14, 2009, 06:14:26 AM
PP = Pomona Park?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 07:57:41 AM
I would like to try and clarify something I had inquired about recently. It was regarding TN's and her many addresses. I do not have her living on Rita Lane. Another poster just responded with White Pages saying she does. That is a new listing, I believe as of August this year. I have her addresses and she did not live on Rita Lane on Feb 9 of this year. Of course, unless she was renting two separate homes. One being in Fruitland Park (84 miles away) and one being in PP. She does not/did not show as living in PP on Feb 9. She had moved to Fruitland Park Nov 08. When all this was being discussed and posted, there was a change made to White Pages. Seems to be what all are taken as fact. Not in my opinion since that was not on the White Pages till recently.

If Teresa was not living at PP and it can be proven, then there is an entire new way of looking at the case due to time restraints and travel. Of course I don't think she could have made it to Satsuma either if RC called her during or after 911 either. He had to have called her before....but how much before it yet to be determined.

A local told me Fruitland Park............could be gossip or could be true ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 07:59:30 AM
Am I the only one here?  IM & HH where are you guys?

Hi callie4u~sorry, I had gone to bed and not signed out.........I have a bad habit of doing that. I'm off to work, but will be checking in ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:07:40 AM
I would like to try and clarify something I had inquired about recently. It was regarding TN's and her many addresses. I do not have her living on Rita Lane. Another poster just responded with White Pages saying she does. That is a new listing, I believe as of August this year. I have her addresses and she did not live on Rita Lane on Feb 9 of this year. Of course, unless she was renting two separate homes. One being in Fruitland Park (84 miles away) and one being in PP. She does not/did not show as living in PP on Feb 9. She had moved to Fruitland Park Nov 08. When all this was being discussed and posted, there was a change made to White Pages. Seems to be what all are taken as fact. Not in my opinion since that was not on the White Pages till recently.

If Teresa was not living at PP and it can be proven, then there is an entire new way of looking at the case due to time restraints and travel. Of course I don't think she could have made it to Satsuma either if RC called her during or after 911 either. He had to have called her before....but how much before it yet to be determined.
Hi Clarice, this past Sunday Cobra and TJ on Blogger Talk Radio stated that TN lived in Fruitland .

Earlier in the case when these guys were asked about the distance I believe that they were talking about the PP location, because they were responding to a the question of how TN got to RC's so fast that night/morning.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on October 14, 2009, 08:11:23 AM
OK...lie number 1.......Misty told the reporter in the airport that she didnt fail the poly............then on the Earl Show she told the lady that she failed the poly possibly because she felt guilty because she was the last one to see HaLeigh.......

She also told that same reporter that she was NOT flying to New York.
She was probably told by Donna to NOT say where she was going, so she said "NO" when asked about NYC. Perhaps if she had told where exactly she flying to the press would be waiting for her.

Probably.

I was just surprised (not sure why) yesterday how easily and matter of factly told the reporter a lie. It seemed so easy for her.

BTW .. I don't think I have welcomed you to the forum, MYView! Allow me to do that now!

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LOL, actually you did, back in April. I don't know how to post a link to a post from here.
Quote from: MyView on April 28, 2009, 03:11:16 PM
I'm new, but have been reading here for a long time. What a mess these young one's are, sad for their children.


Hi MyView:
Nice to see you posting, and welcome again.

heh .. a double welcome then!

I swear  ...

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This should be my avi!

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on October 14, 2009, 08:15:06 AM
Who knew the magic of hygiene ? First Leonard Padilla thought if he bailed Casey out of jail and she could get a shower, her nails,makeup and hair done she would confess "who she gave Caylee to." Now Tim Miller thinks if Misty gets hair and makeup done and some new clothes she will tell all. This would be laughable if not so sad! Misty does not need to be comforted and coddled. She has been protected for 8 months. Misty needs to see what the rest of her life will be if she continues her present course. Donna as a mother figure ?? Did you see her My Space ? Tim has used very poor judgement IMO and attention has once again been diverted from Haleigh,IMO. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I totally agree with you and I was very offended by TM's hillbillie post.
I was surprised by that as well. I am amazed that this derogatory term is used by those who would never publicly refer to African Americans by using the "N" word. I prefer to see the individual and not the stereotype. JMO

Yes, BM, you are right.  But in the world of MC, this is probably the nicest thing I have heard her called yet.

 ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on October 14, 2009, 08:16:32 AM
If Misty is afraid of the thugs and druggies if she talks, did she ever give it any thought that one of them could kill her before she talks? And not only that, now that the info is out about Donna and Misty, aren't both of their lives in danger if indeed the thugs and druggies have anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, I know I would be.

This is my concern also.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on October 14, 2009, 08:24:22 AM
Come to think of it, since Teresa said tonight on NG that Misty ws staying with someone that she met during the Tim Miller tests, then Misty already knows that this woman is connected to Tim in some way and already had and idea what was going on, so I dont think its gonna bother her too much, she is gonna hang right there with Donna and continue to free load and throw a little tidbit out there every now and then just to keep in her good graces....she has no where else to go!!

HH, I thought MC knew, also, due to where they met.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:30:16 AM
#  Tricia Says:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

Hi Art,

About the road rage incident. It sounds like Donna was an active participant in the harassment. Either she was the driver following the other person or she was the one flipping her off.
What does Donna say about this.

Tricia–

Delighted to see such an esteemed guest drop by…!

Tim Miller tells me she doesn’t dispute losing her cool, and blowing Donna’s Undercover Mama super sleuth role.

She was the driver; Misty, the passenger, so it was the adult who apparently had a meltdown. Maybe the stress of it all got to her; playing double agent with no training, maybe bonding too deeply with her target? Wondering, maybe nervous she’d get made before learning, if there was anything to learn, what happened to Haleigh…?

I understand Misty developed some real affection, even felt spoiled and cared for, getting her hair and nails done, staying in hotels, going to theme parks. Tim says Donna grew to like Misty, felt badly for her handicaps in life, and Misty confided in her new best girlfriend as her marriage to Ronald was going South.

Sources tell me Donna has been regularly talking with investigators, who are losing patience with Misty, even warning her recently that she is in their crosshairs and could spend life in prison if they ever make a case and charge her … unless, that is, she comes clean and lays it all out, or at least what they believe she knows she’s not telling. –Art

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comment-40271


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: clarice on October 14, 2009, 08:32:48 AM
I would like to try and clarify something I had inquired about recently. It was regarding TN's and her many addresses. I do not have her living on Rita Lane. Another poster just responded with White Pages saying she does. That is a new listing, I believe as of August this year. I have her addresses and she did not live on Rita Lane on Feb 9 of this year. Of course, unless she was renting two separate homes. One being in Fruitland Park (84 miles away) and one being in PP. She does not/did not show as living in PP on Feb 9. She had moved to Fruitland Park Nov 08. When all this was being discussed and posted, there was a change made to White Pages. Seems to be what all are taken as fact. Not in my opinion since that was not on the White Pages till recently.

If Teresa was not living at PP and it can be proven, then there is an entire new way of looking at the case due to time restraints and travel. Of course I don't think she could have made it to Satsuma either if RC called her during or after 911 either. He had to have called her before....but how much before it yet to be determined.
Hi Clarice, this past Sunday Cobra and TJ on Blogger Talk Radio stated that TN lived in Fruitland .

Earlier in the case when these guys were asked about the distance I believe that they were talking about the PP location, because they were responding to a the question of how TN got to RC's so fast that night/morning.

According to my records, Teresa moved to Fruitland Park in November of 08. I do not have her living at Rita Lane In pomona park, despite what she told LE. I do have interesting info on that address and various family members living there at  one time. I suspect it was "in the family" or still is. But Teresa was not living there, according to records. She states it now, after all the sleuthing and has notified "White Pages", IMO.  I am suspect that she wasn't living on Rita Lane on Feb 9; unless she was paying rent on two homes. Of course that can be possilbe but not likely.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:35:52 AM
#  Tricia Says:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

Hi Art,

About the road rage incident. It sounds like Donna was an active participant in the harassment. Either she was the driver following the other person or she was the one flipping her off.
What does Donna say about this.

Tricia–

Delighted to see such an esteemed guest drop by…!


Tim Miller tells me she doesn’t dispute losing her cool, and blowing Donna’s Undercover Mama super sleuth role.

She was the driver; Misty, the passenger, so it was the adult who apparently had a meltdown. Maybe the stress of it all got to her; playing double agent with no training, maybe bonding too deeply with her target? Wondering, maybe nervous she’d get made before learning, if there was anything to learn, what happened to Haleigh…?

I understand Misty developed some real affection, even felt spoiled and cared for, getting her hair and nails done, staying in hotels, going to theme parks. Tim says Donna grew to like Misty, felt badly for her handicaps in life, and Misty confided in her new best girlfriend as her marriage to Ronald was going South.

Sources tell me Donna has been regularly talking with investigators, who are losing patience with Misty, even warning her recently that she is in their crosshairs and could spend life in prison if they ever make a case and charge her … unless, that is, she comes clean and lays it all out, or at least what they believe she knows she’s not telling. –Art

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comment-40271
BBM Am I the only one who threw up in my mouth a little when I read that part?

....and uhmm, trish ... they were "flicking"  :smt098 the girl off ... stay informed please  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:37:56 AM
I would like to try and clarify something I had inquired about recently. It was regarding TN's and her many addresses. I do not have her living on Rita Lane. Another poster just responded with White Pages saying she does. That is a new listing, I believe as of August this year. I have her addresses and she did not live on Rita Lane on Feb 9 of this year. Of course, unless she was renting two separate homes. One being in Fruitland Park (84 miles away) and one being in PP. She does not/did not show as living in PP on Feb 9. She had moved to Fruitland Park Nov 08. When all this was being discussed and posted, there was a change made to White Pages. Seems to be what all are taken as fact. Not in my opinion since that was not on the White Pages till recently.

If Teresa was not living at PP and it can be proven, then there is an entire new way of looking at the case due to time restraints and travel. Of course I don't think she could have made it to Satsuma either if RC called her during or after 911 either. He had to have called her before....but how much before it yet to be determined.
Hi Clarice, this past Sunday Cobra and TJ on Blogger Talk Radio stated that TN lived in Fruitland .

Earlier in the case when these guys were asked about the distance I believe that they were talking about the PP location, because they were responding to a the question of how TN got to RC's so fast that night/morning.

According to my records, Teresa moved to Fruitland Park in November of 08. I do not have her living at Rita Lane In pomona park, despite what she told LE. I do have interesting info on that address and various family members living there at  one time. I suspect it was "in the family" or still is. But Teresa was not living there, according to records. She states it now, after all the sleuthing and has notified "White Pages", IMO.  I am suspect that she wasn't living on Rita Lane on Feb 9; unless she was paying rent on two homes. Of course that can be possilbe but not likely.
This would be very very important if it could be proven, IMO.  I feel like she's hiding something and then with all the lies she's been caught in, secretly taping LE, and vouching for misty as a great mom it wouldn't surprise me if this is true.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:41:23 AM
Good advice Searching - Now come take care of my dad!

Nah, I am kidding, I would not give him up for anything.
Still, I have heard your advice loud and clear.  TY

You are welcome. any time.  ::MonkeyKiss::

Searching, I think you are a tender-hearted monkey and I'm proud to be in the cage with you.  We don't always agree, but there's always more than one way of seeing things.  I just wanted to make sure you knew that I was touched by what you did.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:44:51 AM
what happened to all the morning monkeys?  everyone sleeping in?  Well, that's dangerous 'cause you guys know I'm gonna talk to myself.

Do we know if Lisa C is going to show up in FL today?  I'm gonna go have a looksey around and see if I can find out.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 09:48:54 AM
I would like to try and clarify something I had inquired about recently. It was regarding TN's and her many addresses. I do not have her living on Rita Lane. Another poster just responded with White Pages saying she does. That is a new listing, I believe as of August this year. I have her addresses and she did not live on Rita Lane on Feb 9 of this year. Of course, unless she was renting two separate homes. One being in Fruitland Park (84 miles away) and one being in PP. She does not/did not show as living in PP on Feb 9. She had moved to Fruitland Park Nov 08. When all this was being discussed and posted, there was a change made to White Pages. Seems to be what all are taken as fact. Not in my opinion since that was not on the White Pages till recently.

If Teresa was not living at PP and it can be proven, then there is an entire new way of looking at the case due to time restraints and travel. Of course I don't think she could have made it to Satsuma either if RC called her during or after 911 either. He had to have called her before....but how much before it yet to be determined.
Good Morning, and thanks clarice  ::MonkeyCool:: That is an excellent question, and I have always wondered how she got there so fast, with an 8x10 pic of Haleigh, none of this adds up, when you look over everything  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 09:54:57 AM
I would like to try and clarify something I had inquired about recently. It was regarding TN's and her many addresses. I do not have her living on Rita Lane. Another poster just responded with White Pages saying she does. That is a new listing, I believe as of August this year. I have her addresses and she did not live on Rita Lane on Feb 9 of this year. Of course, unless she was renting two separate homes. One being in Fruitland Park (84 miles away) and one being in PP. She does not/did not show as living in PP on Feb 9. She had moved to Fruitland Park Nov 08. When all this was being discussed and posted, there was a change made to White Pages. Seems to be what all are taken as fact. Not in my opinion since that was not on the White Pages till recently.

If Teresa was not living at PP and it can be proven, then there is an entire new way of looking at the case due to time restraints and travel. Of course I don't think she could have made it to Satsuma either if RC called her during or after 911 either. He had to have called her before....but how much before it yet to be determined.
read thru your post quickly because i'm at work... but rita lane address is way older then august in fact it goes back to at least mar/apr/// i remember that was the first address i had found for her and others claimed at that time it was an old address...
altho i get what your saying about the change thing on white pages... the public can edit that at will by claiming to update your info and that they are the person...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 10:01:54 AM
#  Tricia Says:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

Hi Art,

About the road rage incident. It sounds like Donna was an active participant in the harassment. Either she was the driver following the other person or she was the one flipping her off.
What does Donna say about this.

Tricia–

Delighted to see such an esteemed guest drop by…!


Tim Miller tells me she doesn’t dispute losing her cool, and blowing Donna’s Undercover Mama super sleuth role.

She was the driver; Misty, the passenger, so it was the adult who apparently had a meltdown. Maybe the stress of it all got to her; playing double agent with no training, maybe bonding too deeply with her target? Wondering, maybe nervous she’d get made before learning, if there was anything to learn, what happened to Haleigh…?

I understand Misty developed some real affection, even felt spoiled and cared for, getting her hair and nails done, staying in hotels, going to theme parks. Tim says Donna grew to like Misty, felt badly for her handicaps in life, and Misty confided in her new best girlfriend as her marriage to Ronald was going South.

Sources tell me Donna has been regularly talking with investigators, who are losing patience with Misty, even warning her recently that she is in their crosshairs and could spend life in prison if they ever make a case and charge her … unless, that is, she comes clean and lays it all out, or at least what they believe she knows she’s not telling. –Art

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/12/exclusive-misty-cummings-undercover-mama/#comment-40271
BBM Am I the only one who threw up in my mouth a little when I read that part?

....and uhmm, trish ... they were "flicking"  :smt098 the girl off ... stay informed please  ::MonkeyLaugh::
No, you were not alone  ::MonkeyTongue:: Actually most of the low lifes in this case, cause me to throw up a little in my mouth  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on October 14, 2009, 10:02:20 AM
what happened to all the morning monkeys?  everyone sleeping in?  Well, that's dangerous 'cause you guys know I'm gonna talk to myself.

Do we know if Lisa C is going to show up in FL today?  I'm gonna go have a looksey around and see if I can find out.  ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: OMG!  ::MonkeyEek:: I'm here, O4Bull!  Good Morning! 

 ::MonkeyTease::     ::MonkeyHaHa::

Bring Haleigh home!!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 10:16:39 AM
 When Ron was showing TM what he was going to do with that assault rifle, I don't know but that is like premeditation of what he planned to do, if he found out that Misty knew more  ::MonkeyEek:: The gun was loaded, correct?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So the gun I'm guessing is back in Ron's closet? Player over on WS was saying he was going to get ownership of the gun  ::MonkeyConfused:: What a mess


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 10:23:19 AM
 ::MonkeyCheer2:: Good morning, CBB and NRCG
I thought I was the only one awake.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm hoping to hear that LC had a long long ride home with FL LE and has decided it's in her best interest to tell them everything she knows.  I'm hoping that will lead to finding Haleigh.

I wish we knew what Donna shared with LE during her 2 hour chat.  Holding out hope for justice for our baby girl Haleigh.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 10:25:00 AM
When Ron was showing TM what he was going to do with that assault rifle, I don't know but that is like premeditation of what he planned to do, if he found out that Misty knew more  ::MonkeyEek:: The gun was loaded, correct?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So the gun I'm guessing is back in Ron's closet? Player over on WS was saying he was going to get ownership of the gun  ::MonkeyConfused:: What a mess
I wonder if it's the same kind of "he said, he said" deal with no proof so that LE can't do anything about it?  Kinda like the road rage incident with DB/MC?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 10:29:04 AM
::MonkeyCheer2:: Good morning, CBB and NRCG
I thought I was the only one awake.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm hoping to hear that LC had a long long ride home with FL LE and has decided it's in her best interest to tell them everything she knows.  I'm hoping that will lead to finding Haleigh.

I wish we knew what Donna shared with LE during her 2 hour chat.  Holding out hope for justice for our baby girl Haleigh.  ::MonkeyAngel::
Good Morning  ::MonkeyCool:: That would be nice, but Lisa probably doesn't remember anything even if she has info  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 10:30:28 AM
When Ron was showing TM what he was going to do with that assault rifle, I don't know but that is like premeditation of what he planned to do, if he found out that Misty knew more  ::MonkeyEek:: The gun was loaded, correct?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So the gun I'm guessing is back in Ron's closet? Player over on WS was saying he was going to get ownership of the gun  ::MonkeyConfused:: What a mess
I wonder if it's the same kind of "he said, he said" deal with no proof so that LE can't do anything about it?  Kinda like the road rage incident with DB/MC?
I don't know how things like that work  ::MonkeyConfused:: But, he actually demonstrated his intentions, which scares me to death, I'm sure the police took Tim seriously, at least I would hope so.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 10:36:37 AM
::MonkeyCheer2:: Good morning, CBB and NRCG
I thought I was the only one awake.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm hoping to hear that LC had a long long ride home with FL LE and has decided it's in her best interest to tell them everything she knows.  I'm hoping that will lead to finding Haleigh.

I wish we knew what Donna shared with LE during her 2 hour chat.  Holding out hope for justice for our baby girl Haleigh.  ::MonkeyAngel::
Good Morning  ::MonkeyCool:: That would be nice, but Lisa probably doesn't remember anything even if she has info  ::MonkeyRoll::
They should be trying to figure out how misty tics via her mother... i hope that is what they are doing as i doubt any of these drug heads have any valid memory or perception of reality especially 8 months later... really wish they could get an undercover fbi profiler to analize misty instead of tinkerbell/peppermint patty that to me seems a little off her rocker and yes i know i don't know her and yes i am judging her because i  feel like it and i don't care what her intentions are or how nice she is... to me she seems a little loopy JMO of course


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 14, 2009, 10:38:19 AM
When Ron was showing TM what he was going to do with that assault rifle, I don't know but that is like premeditation of what he planned to do, if he found out that Misty knew more  ::MonkeyEek:: The gun was loaded, correct?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So the gun I'm guessing is back in Ron's closet? Player over on WS was saying he was going to get ownership of the gun  ::MonkeyConfused:: What a mess
I wonder if it's the same kind of "he said, he said" deal with no proof so that LE can't do anything about it?  Kinda like the road rage incident with DB/MC?
I don't know how things like that work  ::MonkeyConfused:: But, he actually demonstrated his intentions, which scares me to death, I'm sure the police took Tim seriously, at least I would hope so.


From twitter:

Unconfirmed report that DCF and LE went to RC's home to investigate story about rifle. Firearm was found to be secured as required.
17 minutes ago from HootSuite @hangnon2hope Is DCF saying that there was no unsafe situation yesterday or are they investigating the incident that TM reported?
23 minutes ago from HootSuite in reply to hangnon2hope@hangnon2hope Was DCF looking for the assault rifle? If so, are you saying that they found it and it was secured properly?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 10:39:29 AM
Thanks Magnolia  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 14, 2009, 10:41:51 AM
Thanks Magnolia  ::MonkeyCool::

Good Morning! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 10:44:10 AM
::MonkeyCheer2:: Good morning, CBB and NRCG
I thought I was the only one awake.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm hoping to hear that LC had a long long ride home with FL LE and has decided it's in her best interest to tell them everything she knows.  I'm hoping that will lead to finding Haleigh.

I wish we knew what Donna shared with LE during her 2 hour chat.  Holding out hope for justice for our baby girl Haleigh.  ::MonkeyAngel::
i'm curtious too... hoiwever i don't think we wil learn anything valid ... either a because misty knew all along who she was or
b because misty is a total psycho and if she did it or knows who did she will never tell anyone becvause in her mind it didn't happen .... she has been lying to herself also... this girl is total out of site out of mind... if she denys it enough then she can believe her own lies as well without even breaking a sweat


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 10:49:47 AM
# RT @judy404: Nancy Grace Tonight: Misty Croslin's mom just transferred to Florida to face charges of petit theft, forgery2 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 10:53:46 AM
::MonkeyCheer2:: Good morning, CBB and NRCG
I thought I was the only one awake.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm hoping to hear that LC had a long long ride home with FL LE and has decided it's in her best interest to tell them everything she knows.  I'm hoping that will lead to finding Haleigh.

I wish we knew what Donna shared with LE during her 2 hour chat.  Holding out hope for justice for our baby girl Haleigh.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Lisa Croslin/Crosling remains the same as yesterday. She was transfered from the Sheriff's office to the County in Tennessee on yesterday and on the docket for an appearance this morning at 9 a.m. for review.

    General Sessions Scheduled Appearance List by Case Number
Defendant    Number       Case Status       Court Date       Appearance Reason       Court Room
Crosling, Lisa    GS460391       OPEN       10/14/2009  -  09:00       Review        Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B       
http://ccc.nashville.gov/portal/pls/portal/PORTAL.PROD_RPT_GSLOAD_CASE%23.show


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 11:01:58 AM
When Ron was showing TM what he was going to do with that assault rifle, I don't know but that is like premeditation of what he planned to do, if he found out that Misty knew more  ::MonkeyEek:: The gun was loaded, correct?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So the gun I'm guessing is back in Ron's closet? Player over on WS was saying he was going to get ownership of the gun  ::MonkeyConfused:: What a mess
I wonder if it's the same kind of "he said, he said" deal with no proof so that LE can't do anything about it?  Kinda like the road rage incident with DB/MC?
I don't know how things like that work  ::MonkeyConfused:: But, he actually demonstrated his intentions, which scares me to death, I'm sure the police took Tim seriously, at least I would hope so.


From twitter:

Unconfirmed report that DCF and LE went to RC's home to investigate story about rifle. Firearm was found to be secured as required.
17 minutes ago from HootSuite @hangnon2hope Is DCF saying that there was no unsafe situation yesterday or are they investigating the incident that TM reported?
23 minutes ago from HootSuite in reply to hangnon2hope@hangnon2hope Was DCF looking for the assault rifle? If so, are you saying that they found it and it was secured properly?

hangnon2hope @HaleighNewz Ask the people that made reports what was reported. DCF & LE investigated what was reported.

@HaleighNewz I know DCF will not make anything public but maybe TJ can contact LE for confirmation.

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 11:04:53 AM
::MonkeyCheer2:: Good morning, CBB and NRCG
I thought I was the only one awake.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm hoping to hear that LC had a long long ride home with FL LE and has decided it's in her best interest to tell them everything she knows.  I'm hoping that will lead to finding Haleigh.

I wish we knew what Donna shared with LE during her 2 hour chat.  Holding out hope for justice for our baby girl Haleigh.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Lisa Croslin/Crosling remains the same as yesterday. She was transfered from the Sheriff's office to the County in Tennessee on yesterday and on the docket for an appearance this morning at 9 a.m. for review.

    General Sessions Scheduled Appearance List by Case Number
Defendant    Number       Case Status       Court Date       Appearance Reason       Court Room
Crosling, Lisa    GS460391       OPEN       10/14/2009  -  09:00       Review        Birch Bldg, Court Room 3B       
http://ccc.nashville.gov/portal/pls/portal/PORTAL.PROD_RPT_GSLOAD_CASE%23.show

LISA CROSLING has been transferred from Davidson Co. Sheriff's Department to Metro Davidson Co.Detention Facility.10/13/09.
http://twitter.com/MysticFlower14


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 11:06:38 AM
# RT @judy404: Nancy Grace Tonight: Misty Croslin's mom just transferred to Florida to face charges of petit theft, forgery2 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
Thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 11:07:49 AM
Thanks Magnolia  ::MonkeyCool::

Good Morning! ::MonkeyJnBox::
Good Morning, everyday I come in here and get more and more confused  ::MonkeyDevil:: I'm confused enough in my life, and then trying to figure all this out.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 11:08:36 AM
 Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 11:21:52 AM
When Ron was showing TM what he was going to do with that assault rifle, I don't know but that is like premeditation of what he planned to do, if he found out that Misty knew more  ::MonkeyEek:: The gun was loaded, correct?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So the gun I'm guessing is back in Ron's closet? Player over on WS was saying he was going to get ownership of the gun  ::MonkeyConfused:: What a mess

That part to me has been unclear, I know he showed Tim two clips/magazines and they were both stored in the closet with the gun ::MonkeyConfused::  Yes, that player has been hitting the sauce again I think, he also said that TN, FAB and MC and Jr were goint to be living with him ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 14, 2009, 11:35:29 AM
THESKY973DOTCOM That gun story...DCF got the report last night and informed PCSO just this morning. Source close say nothing criminal at this point17 minutes ago from web

Me:
waiting for clarification on this statement though.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 11:38:47 AM
When Ron was showing TM what he was going to do with that assault rifle, I don't know but that is like premeditation of what he planned to do, if he found out that Misty knew more  ::MonkeyEek:: The gun was loaded, correct?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So the gun I'm guessing is back in Ron's closet? Player over on WS was saying he was going to get ownership of the gun  ::MonkeyConfused:: What a mess

That part to me has been unclear, I know he showed Tim two clips/magazines and they were both stored in the closet with the gun ::MonkeyConfused::  Yes, that player has been hitting the sauce again I think, he also said that TN, FAB and MC and Jr were goint to be living with him ::MonkeyHaHa::
Yep, thats what he said...lol....and remember he said he was going on a trip with them or something......thats guy just plain needs to stop  blogging drunk, well a few people do....lol.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 14, 2009, 11:40:17 AM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php

Posted: Wednesday, 14 October 2009 11:35AM

Haleigh Update: Rumors of Dad and His Guns Spark Investigation


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 11:40:31 AM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php




update about investigation into the Gun thing...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 14, 2009, 11:43:21 AM
NRCG you have nanners!

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 11:50:52 AM
NRCG you have nanners!

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!
Good Morning,,,,,,send me a nanner too....Im hungrey,,,,lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 11:53:08 AM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php

Posted: Wednesday, 14 October 2009 11:35AM

Haleigh Update: Rumors of Dad and His Guns Spark Investigation


Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday night and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office received information from the agency Wednesday morning.
 
Our source also says the sheriff's office has not yet been involved in this matter, but are they being kept in the loop should something criminal evolve from the DCF investigation.


So I am wondering where DCF obtained their info from, concerned citizens or TM?

Bolded above, so did TM inform LE as reported in AH's article or not?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 11:54:00 AM
When Ron was showing TM what he was going to do with that assault rifle, I don't know but that is like premeditation of what he planned to do, if he found out that Misty knew more  ::MonkeyEek:: The gun was loaded, correct?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So the gun I'm guessing is back in Ron's closet? Player over on WS was saying he was going to get ownership of the gun  ::MonkeyConfused:: What a mess

That part to me has been unclear, I know he showed Tim two clips/magazines and they were both stored in the closet with the gun ::MonkeyConfused::  Yes, that player has been hitting the sauce again I think, he also said that TN, FAB and MC and Jr were goint to be living with him ::MonkeyHaHa::
   ::MonkeyConfused::  Thanks, I can't figure out why or how so many people can squeeze into a mobile home, there would be no privacy at all  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 11:56:46 AM
When Ron was showing TM what he was going to do with that assault rifle, I don't know but that is like premeditation of what he planned to do, if he found out that Misty knew more  ::MonkeyEek:: The gun was loaded, correct?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So the gun I'm guessing is back in Ron's closet? Player over on WS was saying he was going to get ownership of the gun  ::MonkeyConfused:: What a mess

That part to me has been unclear, I know he showed Tim two clips/magazines and they were both stored in the closet with the gun ::MonkeyConfused::  Yes, that player has been hitting the sauce again I think, he also said that TN, FAB and MC and Jr were goint to be living with him ::MonkeyHaHa::
Yep, thats what he said...lol....and remember he said he was going on a trip with them or something......thats guy just plain needs to stop  blogging drunk, well a few people do....lol.......
   ::MonkeyLaugh:: Love the new Miz Nancy look.  I can't figure this player out, but I sure think he must be a lot like Joy Wray and her involvement with the Anthonys, though Joy has been quiet lately  ::MonkeyRoll:: Why he wants to get involved with these people living there, he is elderly and I would think for his health and sanity, to leave well enough alone, but that's up to him what he wants to do.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 11:57:35 AM
NRCG you have nanners!

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!
Thank, might take a minute, I'm still having trouble with getting into my account  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 12:11:28 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php




update about investigation into the Gun thing...

snipped:

 
Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday night and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office received information from the agency Wednesday morning.
 
Our source also says the sheriff's office has not yet been involved in this matter, but are they being kept in the loop should something criminal evolve from the DCF investigation.






Oh HH I remember player and those carzy drunk blogging post, they were at least amusing to say the least.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 12:16:53 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php

Posted: Wednesday, 14 October 2009 11:35AM

Haleigh Update: Rumors of Dad and His Guns Spark Investigation


Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday night and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office received information from the agency Wednesday morning.
 
Our source also says the sheriff's office has not yet been involved in this matter, but are they being kept in the loop should something criminal evolve from the DCF investigation.


So I am wondering where DCF obtained their info from, concerned citizens or TM?

Bolded above, so did TM inform LE as reported in AH's article or not?
Heart, you always have the best questions  ::MonkeyCool::  I don't know the answer, but I'm sure we might find out.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 12:16:58 PM
When Ron was showing TM what he was going to do with that assault rifle, I don't know but that is like premeditation of what he planned to do, if he found out that Misty knew more  ::MonkeyEek:: The gun was loaded, correct?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: So the gun I'm guessing is back in Ron's closet? Player over on WS was saying he was going to get ownership of the gun  ::MonkeyConfused:: What a mess

That part to me has been unclear, I know he showed Tim two clips/magazines and they were both stored in the closet with the gun ::MonkeyConfused::  Yes, that player has been hitting the sauce again I think, he also said that TN, FAB and MC and Jr were goint to be living with him ::MonkeyHaHa::
   ::MonkeyConfused::  Thanks, I can't figure out why or how so many people can squeeze into a mobile home, there would be no privacy at all  ::MonkeyRoll::

Me either, can you imagine living in that  cramped and tense enviroment ::MonkeyDevil2::  But maybe the view makes up for it ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 12:23:37 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php




update about investigation into the Gun thing...

I wonder how long it took FAB to hear the net outrage about the gun and locked it up ::MonkeyDevil2:: He did have plenty of time to "get er dun" ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 12:30:51 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php




update about investigation into the Gun thing...

I wonder how long it took FAB to hear the net outrage about the gun and locked it up ::MonkeyDevil2:: He did have plenty of time to "get er dun" ::MonkeyKiss::
Thats what I said, gee he heard the same thing we did, he's crazy, but he isnt stupid, he knew what was gonna happen, Im sure he took care of everything before anything came down about this gun....probably why he missed the EMShow, he was just covering his tracks and taking care of things at home..... they need to find Misty, lock her up, then see what Ronald does then...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 12:31:19 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM Well Greenwood gave an update and said it was Teresa Neves that was at the MH at 7 the night HaLeigh was taken, so.....
19 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope Saw that
18 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 12:39:03 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM Well Greenwood gave an update and said it was Teresa Neves that was at the MH at 7 the night HaLeigh was taken, so.....
19 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope Saw that
18 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 12:39:03 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM Well Greenwood gave an update and said it was Teresa Neves that was at the MH at 7 the night HaLeigh was taken, so.....
19 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope Saw that
18 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM
I read these and they were talking about how Greenwood had made several mistakes in some of his statements, meaning that he said the wrong persons name when he talked about who stopped by the mobile home that afternoon.....it was Sykes...not Neves...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: lady on October 14, 2009, 12:41:29 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM Well Greenwood gave an update and said it was Teresa Neves that was at the MH at 7 the night HaLeigh was taken, so.....
19 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope Saw that
18 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM
I read these and they were talking about how Greenwood had made several mistakes in some of his statements, meaning that he said the wrong persons name when he talked about who stopped by the mobile home that afternoon.....it was Sykes...not Neves...
IIRC it was TN who told GGS to go over and check on the kids right??? switching stories like this is not helping find Haleigh..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 14, 2009, 12:41:30 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM Well Greenwood gave an update and said it was Teresa Neves that was at the MH at 7 the night HaLeigh was taken, so.....
19 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope Saw that
18 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

HI Brandi,

Thank-you for the update information.  May I ask please, what does it mean? LOL. 
I understand (if correctly) that T.N. was at RC's,  M.H., at 7:00 (dinner time?) on the eve of Haleigh's disappearance? TIA
The links did not work for me.

O.T.

Granny Sykes could weld a cast iron pan, why would they need anything else?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 12:44:28 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM Well Greenwood gave an update and said it was Teresa Neves that was at the MH at 7 the night HaLeigh was taken, so.....
19 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope Saw that
18 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM
I read these and they were talking about how Greenwood had made several mistakes in some of his statements, meaning that he said the wrong persons name when he talked about who stopped by the mobile home that afternoon.....it was Sykes...not Neves...

Oh. That's possible.

This is just too confusing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 12:46:00 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM Well Greenwood gave an update and said it was Teresa Neves that was at the MH at 7 the night HaLeigh was taken, so.....
19 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope Saw that
18 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

HI Brandi,

Thank-you for the update information.  May I ask please, what does it mean? LOL. 
I understand (if correctly) that T.N. was at RC's,  M.H., at 7:00 (dinner time?) on the eve of Haleigh's disappearance? TIA
The links did not work for me.

O.T.

Granny Sykes could weld a cast iron pan, why would they need anything else?

Hi seahorse.

Just posting what I saw relayed on twitter.

I am as confused as the rest of us.

HH made a comment above about it that makes as much sense as anything else at this point.

 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 12:51:17 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image75-1.png)

So does this status mean the "review" has been held, Lisa has been released from this case and is on her way to Putnam County?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on October 14, 2009, 12:52:13 PM
Ok, I've been out of the Haleigh thread for a while, can anyone give me an update? Did Misty return to Ron? I read clicking on pages that they are getting a divorce? Any more news in a nutshell? I know you guys are busy, you don't have to answer if other things are pressing. Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 12:57:28 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 12:59:16 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image75-1.png)

So does this status mean the "review" has been held, Lisa has been released from this case and is on her way to Putnam County?



Yes mam, I believe so,  thanks Brandi!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 01:01:23 PM
Ok, I've been out of the Haleigh thread for a while, can anyone give me an update? Did Misty return to Ron? I read clicking on pages that they are getting a divorce? Any more news in a nutshell? I know you guys are busy, you don't have to answer if other things are pressing. Thanks
Hi Boo Money, I believe that it was Brandi that posted a piece out of NG's transcript from this past Monday where Ron's attorney stated that Misty signed the divorce papers on Monday.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 14, 2009, 01:01:40 PM
Ok, I've been out of the Haleigh thread for a while, can anyone give me an update? Did Misty return to Ron? I read clicking on pages that they are getting a divorce? Any more news in a nutshell? I know you guys are busy, you don't have to answer if other things are pressing. Thanks


Boo in a NUTSHELL! Same Chit....different day! Nothing but lies and confusion.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 14, 2009, 01:03:50 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM Well Greenwood gave an update and said it was Teresa Neves that was at the MH at 7 the night HaLeigh was taken, so.....
19 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope Saw that
18 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

HI Brandi,

Thank-you for the update information.  May I ask please, what does it mean? LOL. 
I understand (if correctly) that T.N. was at RC's,  M.H., at 7:00 (dinner time?) on the eve of Haleigh's disappearance? TIA
The links did not work for me.

O.T.

Granny Sykes could weld a cast iron pan, why would they need anything else?

Hi seahorse.

Just posting what I saw relayed on twitter.

I am as confused as the rest of us.

HH made a comment above about it that makes as much sense as anything else at this point.

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Thank-you Brandi.

There seems to be an overload of information, (if, if,)T.N. were at the M.H. it would be nutso.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 01:04:43 PM
Ok, I've been out of the Haleigh thread for a while, can anyone give me an update? Did Misty return to Ron? I read clicking on pages that they are getting a divorce? Any more news in a nutshell? I know you guys are busy, you don't have to answer if other things are pressing. Thanks

SHOEMAKER: I know that Misty was in our office today. We gave her the paper. She`s no longer represented by anybody. She looked them over, she took them to a notary, brought them back signed. And they will be filed shortly.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
Ok, I've been out of the Haleigh thread for a while, can anyone give me an update? Did Misty return to Ron? I read clicking on pages that they are getting a divorce? Any more news in a nutshell? I know you guys are busy, you don't have to answer if other things are pressing. Thanks


Boo in a NUTSHELL! Same Chit....different day! Nothing but lies and confusion.

That sums it up pretty well.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 14, 2009, 01:11:41 PM
Hi Monkeys,

The more I read the less sense this case is making, could anyone explain this, please?

RT @hobbitt55: Tenn court Dismisses Lisa's fugitive charge. Case Closed http://bit.ly/11jr5a

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 01:30:39 PM
hangnon2hope @THESKY973DOTCOM Well Greenwood gave an update and said it was Teresa Neves that was at the MH at 7 the night HaLeigh was taken, so.....
19 minutes ago from web in reply to THESKY973DOTCOM

THESKY973DOTCOM @hangnon2hope Saw that
18 minutes ago from web in reply to hangnon2hope

http://twitter.com/hangnon2hope
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM
   ::MonkeyEek:: Well that changes things


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 01:32:26 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


He had plenty of time to cover his tracks, something tells me Ron is pretty good at covering his tracks.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 01:33:22 PM
Hi Monkeys,

The more I read the less sense this case is making, could anyone explain this, please?

RT @hobbitt55: Tenn court Dismisses Lisa's fugitive charge. Case Closed http://bit.ly/11jr5a

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz
   ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyConfused::  I have no idea


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 14, 2009, 01:35:06 PM
I dont know why I am even bothering posting as I know it will be ignored as my last TJ link was between certain monkeys, but TJ just corrected his info.. PCSO and DCF were at the house already... go check the article again as I am not posting the link again for someone to post it behind me and be treated as though I never posted.. I am off to do the life thing.. Take care.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 01:37:37 PM
Hi Monkeys,

The more I read the less sense this case is making, could anyone explain this, please?

RT @hobbitt55: Tenn court Dismisses Lisa's fugitive charge. Case Closed http://bit.ly/11jr5a

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

I believe Lisa Croslin had a warrant out for her arrest in Putnam County, FL (for stealing and cashing checks.)

This occurred after she moved to Tennessee.

Tennessee LE picked her up and held her as a fugitive from justice.

She is being sent back to FL as we speak (I believe) and in custody, so the fugitive from justice charges are no longer being held against her.

This is how I understand it, I may be wrong.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 01:43:47 PM
I dont know why I am even bothering posting as I know it will be ignored as my last TJ link was between certain monkeys, but TJ just corrected his info.. PCSO and DCF were at the house already... go check the article again as I am not posting the link again for someone to post it behind me and be treated as though I never posted.. I am off to do the life thing.. Take care.

CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency, however no report was written.
 
Our source also says the sheriff's office has not yet been involved in this matter, but are they being kept in the loop should something criminal evolve from the DCF investigation.
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 01:47:59 PM
OMG...... ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 01:54:18 PM
OMG...... ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyViolin::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 01:55:59 PM
I dont know why I am even bothering posting as I know it will be ignored as my last TJ link was between certain monkeys, but TJ just corrected his info.. PCSO and DCF were at the house already... go check the article again as I am not posting the link again for someone to post it behind me and be treated as though I never posted.. I am off to do the life thing.. Take care.

CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency, however no report was written.
 
Our source also says the sheriff's office has not yet been involved in this matter, but are they being kept in the loop should something criminal evolve from the DCF investigation.
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php
Thanks, and so now we know that DCF and a Officer went to check out Tims allegations into the gun thing........everything is so crazy with this case............Where's HaLeigh.........wish someone would tell what the he11 happened that night..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 01:56:41 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 01:56:51 PM
THESKY973DOTCOM: Source missed detail! SOURCE "I inadvertently lied to you.I just found out that a deputy go to the house with a DCF worker"34 minutes ago from HootSuite


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 01:57:15 PM
OMG...... ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyViolin::
lol....that is too cute..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 02:00:58 PM
I dont know why I am even bothering posting as I know it will be ignored as my last TJ link was between certain monkeys, but TJ just corrected his info.. PCSO and DCF were at the house already... go check the article again as I am not posting the link again for someone to post it behind me and be treated as though I never posted.. I am off to do the life thing.. Take care.

Searching, I don't think it's about who "gets credit" for posting what and when, we all post over each other all the time......I appreciate everyone posting links as some miss them as I have done in the past, it's about getting the info out there and IMO I never have a problem with someone posting anything after I did, nor do I need "credit" for it..........we all appreciate any links from anyone ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 14, 2009, 02:05:19 PM
OK This is my 2 cents worth.

Red started SM, and we have some of the most thoughtful capable mods and Admin on the web. Missing persons threads, especially a missing childs thread is not the place for all this petty sniping. I do not know about the other Monkeys but I am sick to death of it. If you have a beef to pick with another Monkey take it somewhere else. There is a lounge and a musings on SM. Sometimes 10 people post a link at the same time. I was not aware that only one person could post a link and that everyone has to answer that said post. I am not here to feed some posters ego and attention seeking . I am here for Haleigh Cummings.
For Gods sake have some respect for Red and Admin. They give us a place to share our thoughts and to get news.

Klaas sorry if I overstepped my bounds, but I am fed up with this crap.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 02:06:09 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::

That is why I said if TM had of reported it to the proper authorities instead of AH, then perhaps Ronald would not have had the time to cover his tracks (that is if all of this is facts).

But second thought perhaps TM did the right thing by going to AH due to what Cobra was saying about some in Putnam County LE, you never know.

Poor Butterbean, I wonder if all of this supposed concern and frenzy for his safety is actually jeopardizing this child's safety. Sometimes too much pressure on one can drive a person to do something they would not normally do.

This is a very sad situation.

Just tell me where the hell is HaLeigh and get this over with.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 02:11:47 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::

That is why I said if TM had of reported it to the proper authorities instead of AH, then perhaps Ronald would not have had the time to cover his tracks (that is if all of this is facts).

But second thought perhaps TM did the right thing by going to AH due to what Cobra was saying about some in Putnam County LE, you never know.

Poor Butterbean, I wonder if all of this supposed concern and frenzy for his safety is actually jeopardizing this child's safety. Sometimes too much pressure on one can drive a person to do something they would not normally do.

This is a very sad situation.

Just tell me where the hell is HaLeigh and get this over with.

AMEN~

I thought TM did state he relayed the gun incident to LE, now maybe it is possible it took the pressure from a bunch of ticked off people calling and emailing them to get them off there arse........I do worry about corruption and the GOB at PCSO ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 02:12:22 PM
OK This is my 2 cents worth.

Red started SM, and we have some of the most thoughtful capable mods and Admin on the web. Missing persons threads, especially a missing childs thread is not the place for all this petty sniping. I do not know about the other Monkeys but I am sick to death of it. If you have a beef to pick with another Monkey take it somewhere else. There is a lounge and a musings on SM. Sometimes 10 people post a link at the same time. I was not aware that only one person could post a link and that everyone has to answer that said post. I am not here to feed some posters ego and attention seeking . I am here for Haleigh Cummings.
For Gods sake have some respect for Red and Admin. They give us a place to share our thoughts and to get news.

Klaas sorry if I overstepped my bounds, but I am fed up with this crap.


Amen, I wasnt aware that we had to do that either, if you look you will see I posted that link just seconds after it was posted, when I went over to retrieve it no one had posted it, as soon as I did and the thread came back it was posted twice, and that happens everyday here, all day long,,,,, Im sick to death of it too,  I dont need for anyone to answer me too feel like Im a part of this Forum, once its posted I know everybody can see it and thats my intentions to begin with......I mean Really, this is not a chat room, this is a missing children forum and Im here to try to help find HaLeigh not for someone to talk too.......give a rest...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 02:14:52 PM
Hi Monkeys,

The more I read the less sense this case is making, could anyone explain this, please?

RT @hobbitt55: Tenn court Dismisses Lisa's fugitive charge. Case Closed http://bit.ly/11jr5a

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

I believe Lisa Croslin had a warrant out for her arrest in Putnam County, FL (for stealing and cashing checks.)

This occurred after she moved to Tennessee.

Tennessee LE picked her up and held her as a fugitive from justice.

She is being sent back to FL as we speak (I believe) and in custody, so the fugitive from justice charges are no longer being held against her.

This is how I understand it, I may be wrong.


Thanks Brandi  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 02:15:24 PM
OMG...... ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Tell me about it  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 02:15:58 PM
OMG...... ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyViolin::
  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 02:17:30 PM
OK This is my 2 cents worth.

Red started SM, and we have some of the most thoughtful capable mods and Admin on the web. Missing persons threads, especially a missing childs thread is not the place for all this petty sniping. I do not know about the other Monkeys but I am sick to death of it. If you have a beef to pick with another Monkey take it somewhere else. There is a lounge and a musings on SM. Sometimes 10 people post a link at the same time. I was not aware that only one person could post a link and that everyone has to answer that said post. I am not here to feed some posters ego and attention seeking . I am here for Haleigh Cummings.
For Gods sake have some respect for Red and Admin. They give us a place to share our thoughts and to get news.

Klaas sorry if I overstepped my bounds, but I am fed up with this crap.



Well said, some people miss links because they are only checking in every now and then and some are actually posting at the same time, and I'm appreciative for any info at this point.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 02:19:18 PM
I dont know why I am even bothering posting as I know it will be ignored as my last TJ link was between certain monkeys, but TJ just corrected his info.. PCSO and DCF were at the house already... go check the article again as I am not posting the link again for someone to post it behind me and be treated as though I never posted.. I am off to do the life thing.. Take care.

Searching, I don't think it's about who "gets credit" for posting what and when, we all post over each other all the time......I appreciate everyone posting links as some miss them as I have done in the past, it's about getting the info out there and IMO I never have a problem with someone posting anything after I did, nor do I need "credit" for it..........we all appreciate any links from anyone ::MonkeyTongue::
And to add to that, I don't sit here and keep reading all the threads that I follow. I'm up and down all day doing many other things, sometimes I miss things, I do go and read everybodies posts, but I don't retain everything from all the cases, that would be impossible. Just this case and Caylee's case is enough for anyone's mind to be on overload  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 02:20:56 PM
OK This is my 2 cents worth.

Red started SM, and we have some of the most thoughtful capable mods and Admin on the web. Missing persons threads, especially a missing childs thread is not the place for all this petty sniping. I do not know about the other Monkeys but I am sick to death of it. If you have a beef to pick with another Monkey take it somewhere else. There is a lounge and a musings on SM. Sometimes 10 people post a link at the same time. I was not aware that only one person could post a link and that everyone has to answer that said post. I am not here to feed some posters ego and attention seeking . I am here for Haleigh Cummings.
For Gods sake have some respect for Red and Admin. They give us a place to share our thoughts and to get news.

Klaas sorry if I overstepped my bounds, but I am fed up with this crap.


  ::MonkeyCool:: Thank-you, I know I appreciate the mods and their hard work, I agree with your post 100%


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 02:22:19 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::

That is why I said if TM had of reported it to the proper authorities instead of AH, then perhaps Ronald would not have had the time to cover his tracks (that is if all of this is facts).

But second thought perhaps TM did the right thing by going to AH due to what Cobra was saying about some in Putnam County LE, you never know.

Poor Butterbean, I wonder if all of this supposed concern and frenzy for his safety is actually jeopardizing this child's safety. Sometimes too much pressure on one can drive a person to do something they would not normally do.

This is a very sad situation.

Just tell me where the hell is HaLeigh and get this over with.
That's an excellent question, I sure hope nothing more jeopardizes Jr's safety. The poor kid has enough to deal with.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 02:25:54 PM
I dont know why I am even bothering posting as I know it will be ignored as my last TJ link was between certain monkeys, but TJ just corrected his info.. PCSO and DCF were at the house already... go check the article again as I am not posting the link again for someone to post it behind me and be treated as though I never posted.. I am off to do the life thing.. Take care.

Searching, I don't think it's about who "gets credit" for posting what and when, we all post over each other all the time......I appreciate everyone posting links as some miss them as I have done in the past, it's about getting the info out there and IMO I never have a problem with someone posting anything after I did, nor do I need "credit" for it..........we all appreciate any links from anyone ::MonkeyTongue::
And to add to that, I don't sit here and keep reading all the threads that I follow. I'm up and down all day doing many other things, sometimes I miss things, I do go and read everybodies posts, but I don't retain everything from all the cases, that would be impossible. Just this case and Caylee's case is enough for anyone's mind to be on overload  ::MonkeyEek::

I agree, I have to look back to remember certain facts that I have forgotten it's so crazy especially coming on the heels of the CA case and then the Lindsey B case, my mind is fried ::MonkeyConfused::  Also, I'm at work and just checking in when I can


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 14, 2009, 02:26:37 PM
I dont know why I am even bothering posting as I know it will be ignored as my last TJ link was between certain monkeys, but TJ just corrected his info.. PCSO and DCF were at the house already... go check the article again as I am not posting the link again for someone to post it behind me and be treated as though I never posted.. I am off to do the life thing.. Take care.

Searching, I don't think it's about who "gets credit" for posting what and when, we all post over each other all the time......I appreciate everyone posting links as some miss them as I have done in the past, it's about getting the info out there and IMO I never have a problem with someone posting anything after I did, nor do I need "credit" for it..........we all appreciate any links from anyone ::MonkeyTongue::
And to add to that, I don't sit here and keep reading all the threads that I follow. I'm up and down all day doing many other things, sometimes I miss things, I do go and read everybodies posts, but I don't retain everything from all the cases, that would be impossible. Just this case and Caylee's case is enough for anyone's mind to be on overload  ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyCheer4:: good posts!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 02:31:07 PM
Just came across this quote from Bill Clayton. Seems appropriate to me:

“The folks you help won't remember it and the folks you hurt won't ever forget it.”



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 14, 2009, 02:31:42 PM
Hello Friends,

I myself can be called a azzbackwards monkey....when I sign on I start on the last page and go back....sometimes its easier to catch up that way. Hope all are having a good day....yesterday was a heart breaking day on here reading the trials some of have been thru....so sad. God Bless all The Monkeys...and God please bring the missing children home. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 02:38:43 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::
i don't understand why dcf would be sent to check out the gun scenario ... shouldn't it be le that figures out if a gun is being kept in illegal manner... then if true le should report it to dcf... dcf would have investigated the fact that he did a b and c with the gun in front of jr but not determine if the gun keeping is "safe"...
this guy put a gun in his mouth in front of a child and said he would blow everyone's teeth out their heads and then his own.... that to me does not sound like something you send dcf into blind.... sending a dcf worker into a house with an alleged loaded semi and an unstable person...hhhhhmmmmm...
does anyone else find this dcf story a little off????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 02:40:37 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::
i don't understand why dcf would be sent to check out the gun scenario ... shouldn't it be le that figures out if a gun is being kept in illegal manner... then if true le should report it to dcf... dcf would have investigated the fact that he did a b and c with the gun in front of jr but not determine if the gun keeping is "safe"...
this guy put a gun in his mouth in front of a child and said he would blow everyone's teeth out their heads and then his own.... that to me does not sound like something you send dcf into blind.... sending a dcf worker into a house with an alleged loaded semi and an unstable person...hhhhhmmmmm...
does anyone else find this dcf story a little off????
Penny, its been told that the DCF worker took a officer with them when they went to investigate, so I dont know,,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 14, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::


I really do not know what to believe anymore in this case. You can't trust anything the media puts out and LE ain't talking.
i don't understand why dcf would be sent to check out the gun scenario ... shouldn't it be le that figures out if a gun is being kept in illegal manner... then if true le should report it to dcf... dcf would have investigated the fact that he did a b and c with the gun in front of jr but not determine if the gun keeping is "safe"...
this guy put a gun in his mouth in front of a child and said he would blow everyone's teeth out their heads and then his own.... that to me does not sound like something you send dcf into blind.... sending a dcf worker into a house with an alleged loaded semi and an unstable person...hhhhhmmmmm...
does anyone else find this dcf story a little off????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 14, 2009, 02:47:46 PM
Hi Monkeys,

The more I read the less sense this case is making, could anyone explain this, please?

RT @hobbitt55: Tenn court Dismisses Lisa's fugitive charge. Case Closed http://bit.ly/11jr5a

http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz

I believe Lisa Croslin had a warrant out for her arrest in Putnam County, FL (for stealing and cashing checks.)

This occurred after she moved to Tennessee.

Tennessee LE picked her up and held her as a fugitive from justice.

She is being sent back to FL as we speak (I believe) and in custody, so the fugitive from justice charges are no longer being held against her.

This is how I understand it, I may be wrong.



Brandi,

Twitter is vague and sometimes misleading because it is so vague, you are very clear in your writing and thinking.  Thank-you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 14, 2009, 02:48:26 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::


I really do not know what to believe anymore in this case. You can't trust anything the media puts out and LE ain't talking.
i don't understand why dcf would be sent to check out the gun scenario ... shouldn't it be le that figures out if a gun is being kept in illegal manner... then if true le should report it to dcf... dcf would have investigated the fact that he did a b and c with the gun in front of jr but not determine if the gun keeping is "safe"...
this guy put a gun in his mouth in front of a child and said he would blow everyone's teeth out their heads and then his own.... that to me does not sound like something you send dcf into blind.... sending a dcf worker into a house with an alleged loaded semi and an unstable person...hhhhhmmmmm...
does anyone else find this dcf story a little off????

 Well Just got in the middle of the quote Sorry.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 02:49:39 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::
i don't understand why dcf would be sent to check out the gun scenario ... shouldn't it be le that figures out if a gun is being kept in illegal manner... then if true le should report it to dcf... dcf would have investigated the fact that he did a b and c with the gun in front of jr but not determine if the gun keeping is "safe"...
this guy put a gun in his mouth in front of a child and said he would blow everyone's teeth out their heads and then his own.... that to me does not sound like something you send dcf into blind.... sending a dcf worker into a house with an alleged loaded semi and an unstable person...hhhhhmmmmm...
does anyone else find this dcf story a little off????
Penny, its been told that the DCF worker took a officer with them when they went to investigate, so I dont know,,
yeah i get that dcf had an officer with them probably for safety but my point is shouldn't this have been something that le investigated before they sent dcf in at all... like if my psycho neighbor has been known to play with loaded guns and threaten people's lives and has no regard for his own obviously since threatening suicide then if i have to go feed his cat i would want le in their making sure the place is clear before i get there not just accompanying me....
also if this story was valid enough for dcf to investigate (they do not have to investigate unless they feel something is a credible threat which by the way leads me to believe that tim may have reported this firsthand otherwise they would have blown it off as heresay) then it should also be valid enough to grant emergency temporary custody to crystal or the state for that matter


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 14, 2009, 02:50:45 PM
Just came across this quote from Bill Clayton. Seems appropriate to me:

“The folks you help won't remember it and the folks you hurt won't ever forget it.”



Brandi, you are so right. I know this is not about me, and people only see a small portion of what is going on, I went thru 3 straight days of being called a liar non stop on twitter by my SM posting name. yes, twitter has nothing to do with SM but when my name here is used to harass and belittle me, it hurts and if folks new the full scope and then would go back and read, they would maybe understand how I feel, or maybe they wont until it is done to them. I walk away and come back to things like

@beachbum1206 thats true.....oh and a certain omeone just posted at SM seeking attention AGAIN....OMG,,,,,its about HaLeigh,not your azz.about 1 hour ago from web in reply to beachbum1206

I have not and will not say a word to that person in that way but keep on getting it thrown at me. Hope some will get the picture and start understanding why I feel as I do.

Searching,  there is nothing Klaas nor I nor any of the other mods can do about something that is tweeted/posted or remarked on in some other place.  A missing child's thread is no place for this.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 02:51:32 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::


I really do not know what to believe anymore in this case. You can't trust anything the media puts out and LE ain't talking.
i don't understand why dcf would be sent to check out the gun scenario ... shouldn't it be le that figures out if a gun is being kept in illegal manner... then if true le should report it to dcf... dcf would have investigated the fact that he did a b and c with the gun in front of jr but not determine if the gun keeping is "safe"...
this guy put a gun in his mouth in front of a child and said he would blow everyone's teeth out their heads and then his own.... that to me does not sound like something you send dcf into blind.... sending a dcf worker into a house with an alleged loaded semi and an unstable person...hhhhhmmmmm...
does anyone else find this dcf story a little off????

 Well Just got in the middle of the quote Sorry.
unforgivable..... ::MonkeyMad:: i am never talking to you again  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Searching on October 14, 2009, 02:51:35 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::
i don't understand why dcf would be sent to check out the gun scenario ... shouldn't it be le that figures out if a gun is being kept in illegal manner... then if true le should report it to dcf... dcf would have investigated the fact that he did a b and c with the gun in front of jr but not determine if the gun keeping is "safe"...
this guy put a gun in his mouth in front of a child and said he would blow everyone's teeth out their heads and then his own.... that to me does not sound like something you send dcf into blind.... sending a dcf worker into a house with an alleged loaded semi and an unstable person...hhhhhmmmmm...
does anyone else find this dcf story a little off????
Penny, its been told that the DCF worker took a officer with them when they went to investigate, so I dont know,,
yeah i get that dcf had an officer with them probably for safety but my point is shouldn't this have been something that le investigated before they sent dcf in at all... like if my psycho neighbor has been known to play with loaded guns and threaten people's lives and has no regard for his own obviously since threatening suicide then if i have to go feed his cat i would want le in their making sure the place is clear before i get there not just accompanying me....
also if this story was valid enough for dcf to investigate (they do not have to investigate unless they feel something is a credible threat which by the way leads me to believe that tim may have reported this firsthand otherwise they would have blown it off as heresay) then it should also be valid enough to grant emergency temporary custody to crystal or the state for that matter
'Penny, it was reported to DCF, they have to investigate.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 03:00:11 PM
Just came across this quote from Bill Clayton. Seems appropriate to me:

“The folks you help won't remember it and the folks you hurt won't ever forget it.”



Brandi, you are so right. I know this is not about me, and people only see a small portion of what is going on, I went thru 3 straight days of being called a liar non stop on twitter by my SM posting name. yes, twitter has nothing to do with SM but when my name here is used to harass and belittle me, it hurts and if folks new the full scope and then would go back and read, they would maybe understand how I feel, or maybe they wont until it is done to them. I walk away and come back to things like

@beachbum1206 thats true.....oh and a certain omeone just posted at SM seeking attention AGAIN....OMG,,,,,its about HaLeigh,not your azz.about 1 hour ago from web in reply to beachbum1206

I have not and will not say a word to that person in that way but keep on getting it thrown at me. Hope some will get the picture and start understanding why I feel as I do.
searching ... hi
i like your posts and lately it seems like all you have been talking about is posters and twitters etc etc... this was already addressed by klaas and i believe muffy last week....please stop talking about it before you get yourself kicked out....
who gives a chit about what a poster here or anywhere else says about you
not trying to be mean but let's all put on our big girl panties and man up LOL
i don't want to see you or any other monkey that gets dragged into this conversation get kicked out of here... and for the safety of my membership i will not comment on this again but guys just cut it out....
we have mods here guys not babysitters...
I hope that doesn't sound too harsh but it's true this is no place for whining and moaning about egos and credit IT IS ABOUT HALEIGH (and occasionally the peopleofwalmart for chits and giggles)
K I'm done now


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 14, 2009, 03:09:09 PM
Just came across this quote from Bill Clayton. Seems appropriate to me:

“The folks you help won't remember it and the folks you hurt won't ever forget it.”



Brandi, you are so right. I know this is not about me, and people only see a small portion of what is going on, I went thru 3 straight days of being called a liar non stop on twitter by my SM posting name. yes, twitter has nothing to do with SM but when my name here is used to harass and belittle me, it hurts and if folks new the full scope and then would go back and read, they would maybe understand how I feel, or maybe they wont until it is done to them. I walk away and come back to things like

@beachbum1206 thats true.....oh and a certain omeone just posted at SM seeking attention AGAIN....OMG,,,,,its about HaLeigh,not your azz.about 1 hour ago from web in reply to beachbum1206

I have not and will not say a word to that person in that way but keep on getting it thrown at me. Hope some will get the picture and start understanding why I feel as I do.


This is my point....WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH HALEIGH? Take it to twitter or wherever. It does not belong here!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 03:10:25 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::
i don't understand why dcf would be sent to check out the gun scenario ... shouldn't it be le that figures out if a gun is being kept in illegal manner... then if true le should report it to dcf... dcf would have investigated the fact that he did a b and c with the gun in front of jr but not determine if the gun keeping is "safe"...
this guy put a gun in his mouth in front of a child and said he would blow everyone's teeth out their heads and then his own.... that to me does not sound like something you send dcf into blind.... sending a dcf worker into a house with an alleged loaded semi and an unstable person...hhhhhmmmmm...
does anyone else find this dcf story a little off????
Penny, its been told that the DCF worker took a officer with them when they went to investigate, so I dont know,,
yeah i get that dcf had an officer with them probably for safety but my point is shouldn't this have been something that le investigated before they sent dcf in at all... like if my psycho neighbor has been known to play with loaded guns and threaten people's lives and has no regard for his own obviously since threatening suicide then if i have to go feed his cat i would want le in their making sure the place is clear before i get there not just accompanying me....
also if this story was valid enough for dcf to investigate (they do not have to investigate unless they feel something is a credible threat which by the way leads me to believe that tim may have reported this firsthand otherwise they would have blown it off as heresay) then it should also be valid enough to grant emergency temporary custody to crystal or the state for that matter
'Penny, it was reported to DCF, they have to investigate.
actually dcf does not have to investigate everything that is reported... they take a call decide if credible decide if an investigation is needed and then decide if a case needs to be opened....
my friend's daughter's father tried to report abuse against the mother once he found out she started dating someone new and when he called dcf he rambled on about that the mother was abusive and on drugs and wouldn't let him see the kid (he was denied visits by the court) and this was a woman who had many of other dcf cases opened due to domestic violence from when he was in the picture... anyways they determined that since he hadn't seen the kid in over a year he would have no way of knowing any of these alleged facts and did not investigate... they never even phoned her and after he did it he called the mother to say he had just done it and she better watch out blah blah blah so she called dcf and wanted to let them know her new address in case they wanted to come investigate and they said no thanks we don't need it and no investigation was done...
my point is they definitely do not investigate every claim they judge its credibility first... if you thinkabout it in just this case alone i'm sure dcf has been flooded with reports about roin from annonymous people from the very beginning yet they were not all investigated... and if you recall kp had to pretty much light a fire under their asses to get them to investigate b4 so... i'm just saying they do not investigate every report


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 03:34:30 PM
Case Type: DR - DOMESTIC RELATIONS
File Action: 134 - DISSO-ATTORNEY W/OUT CHILD
Case Status: ACTIVE
Location: Cashier
Case Num: DR09-1779
State Case Num: 552009DR001779A000XX
SAO Case Num:


10/13/2009 9.0000 MOTION FOR ORDER OF REFERENCE
10/13/2009 8.0000 MOTION FOR ORDER WAIVING 20 DAY PERIOD
10/13/2009 7.0000 WIFE'S WAIVER OF SPPERANCE
10/13/2009 6.0000 NOTICE OF FILING REPORT OF SPECIAL EXAMINER
10/13/2009 5.0000 STANDING FAMILY LAW ORDER
10/13/2009 4.0000 MOTION FOR JUDGMENT ON PLEADINGS
10/13/2009 3.0000 MARITAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
10/13/2009 PAYMENT OF $408.00 BY: CUMMINGS, RONALD ON 10/13/2009
10/13/2009 2.0000 CIVIL COVER SHEET
10/13/2009 1.0000 PETITION


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 03:35:20 PM
Case Type: DR - DOMESTIC RELATIONS
File Action: 134 - DISSO-ATTORNEY W/OUT CHILD
Case Status: ACTIVE
Location: Cashier
Case Num: DR09-1779
State Case Num: 552009DR001779A000XX
SAO Case Num:


10/13/2009 9.0000 MOTION FOR ORDER OF REFERENCE
10/13/2009 8.0000 MOTION FOR ORDER WAIVING 20 DAY PERIOD
10/13/2009 7.0000 WIFE'S WAIVER OF SPPERANCE
10/13/2009 6.0000 NOTICE OF FILING REPORT OF SPECIAL EXAMINER
10/13/2009 5.0000 STANDING FAMILY LAW ORDER
10/13/2009 4.0000 MOTION FOR JUDGMENT ON PLEADINGS
10/13/2009 3.0000 MARITAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
10/13/2009 PAYMENT OF $408.00 BY: CUMMINGS, RONALD ON 10/13/2009
10/13/2009 2.0000 CIVIL COVER SHEET
10/13/2009 1.0000 PETITION
filed in St. John's County // Divorce filing for RC/MC


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 14, 2009, 03:36:55 PM
Case Type: DR - DOMESTIC RELATIONS
File Action: 134 - DISSO-ATTORNEY W/OUT CHILD
Case Status: ACTIVE
Location: Cashier
Case Num: DR09-1779
State Case Num: 552009DR001779A000XX
SAO Case Num:


10/13/2009 9.0000 MOTION FOR ORDER OF REFERENCE
10/13/2009 8.0000 MOTION FOR ORDER WAIVING 20 DAY PERIOD
10/13/2009 7.0000 WIFE'S WAIVER OF SPPERANCE
10/13/2009 6.0000 NOTICE OF FILING REPORT OF SPECIAL EXAMINER
10/13/2009 5.0000 STANDING FAMILY LAW ORDER
10/13/2009 4.0000 MOTION FOR JUDGMENT ON PLEADINGS
10/13/2009 3.0000 MARITAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
10/13/2009 PAYMENT OF $408.00 BY: CUMMINGS, RONALD ON 10/13/2009
10/13/2009 2.0000 CIVIL COVER SHEET
10/13/2009 1.0000 PETITION
filed in St. John's County // Divorce filing for RC/MC
YAY, good find O4B......finally, something showed up.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 03:37:30 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::


I really do not know what to believe anymore in this case. You can't trust anything the media puts out and LE ain't talking.
i don't understand why dcf would be sent to check out the gun scenario ... shouldn't it be le that figures out if a gun is being kept in illegal manner... then if true le should report it to dcf... dcf would have investigated the fact that he did a b and c with the gun in front of jr but not determine if the gun keeping is "safe"...
this guy put a gun in his mouth in front of a child and said he would blow everyone's teeth out their heads and then his own.... that to me does not sound like something you send dcf into blind.... sending a dcf worker into a house with an alleged loaded semi and an unstable person...hhhhhmmmmm...
does anyone else find this dcf story a little off????

 Well Just got in the middle of the quote Sorry.
unforgivable..... ::MonkeyMad:: i am never talking to you again  ::MonkeyTongue::

LOL, I was just catching up and was like ::MonkeyEek::  then I caught on ::MonkeyJnBox:: I'm slowwwwwww today!  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 03:39:33 PM
Thanks,O4B.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 03:41:01 PM
If TM had of reported this to DCF and/or LE immediately then perhaps Ron would not have had the time to cover his tracks.


CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency


Looks like he would have had plenty of time since by the wording of this article it seems that DCF didn't even get the report until Tuesday ::MonkeyNoNo::
i don't understand why dcf would be sent to check out the gun scenario ... shouldn't it be le that figures out if a gun is being kept in illegal manner... then if true le should report it to dcf... dcf would have investigated the fact that he did a b and c with the gun in front of jr but not determine if the gun keeping is "safe"...
this guy put a gun in his mouth in front of a child and said he would blow everyone's teeth out their heads and then his own.... that to me does not sound like something you send dcf into blind.... sending a dcf worker into a house with an alleged loaded semi and an unstable person...hhhhhmmmmm...
does anyone else find this dcf story a little off????
I would think LE and DCF would check on this, but since I really don't know, I can't say for sure. But anyone who does such a horrific thing in front of a child, I can't imagine how scared Jr must have been. And to think what if it was loaded and went off, while Ron was demonstrating, the horror that would have been.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 03:45:39 PM
crystal0430 we need HaLeigh home with us, so she can be with her family, where she belongs.... I Love You HaLeigh I will never give up on you.luv mommy
14 minutes ago from web   
 
  crystal0430 missing my baby girl HaLeigh if anyone know anything about her where abouts or anything about her... Please contact the police...

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 14, 2009, 03:46:37 PM
Can't Putnam County just declare Gma's house a war zone?   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2009, 03:47:00 PM
Klaasend just said last week there is nothing she can do about what is posted  in places other than Scared Monkeys.  Please don't use Haleigh's Missing Person thread as a vehicle to air personal grievances.  It simply does not belong in a missing little girl's thread.   




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 03:48:44 PM
Thank-you Muffy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 14, 2009, 03:50:51 PM
Klaasend just said last week there is nothing she can do about what is posted  in places other than Scared Monkeys.  Please don't use Haleigh's Missing Person thread as a vehicle to air personal grievances.  It simply does not belong in a missing little girl's thread.   




Oh no, not me, again?  I keep my posting's 'in good faith" that are required by the state of Florida, I hope.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 03:52:48 PM
Klaasend just said last week there is nothing she can do about what is posted  in places other than Scared Monkeys.  Please don't use Haleigh's Missing Person thread as a vehicle to air personal grievances.  It simply does not belong in a missing little girl's thread.   



hey muffy i never got a response from you about if we can post a link to a white pages search... not post a number but rather alink to where a number is... not for the purpose of actually calling people but for more of an address thing


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 14, 2009, 03:53:15 PM
CROSLIN    LISA    CARMEN    9/10/1969   F   W    09-04237    10/14/2009 3:36:39 PM   

http://public.pcso.us/jail/inmates.aspx

LISA  CARMEN  CROSLIN
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 10/14/2009 3:36:39 PM  - Booking#: 09-04237
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 9/10/1969 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
831.02-   FRAUD UTTER FALSE INSTRUMENT   F   T    $5,004.00    
831.01-   FORGERY OF ALTER PUBLIC RECORD CERTIFICATE ETC   F   T    $5,004.00    
812.014-3a   LARC PETIT 1ST OFF   M   S    $504.00    
                $10,512.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=756988&IMG=


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 14, 2009, 03:54:30 PM
Klaasend just said last week there is nothing she can do about what is posted  in places other than Scared Monkeys.  Please don't use Haleigh's Missing Person thread as a vehicle to air personal grievances.  It simply does not belong in a missing little girl's thread.   




Thank you MuffyBee.  I often leave this thread because of that very reason.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 03:54:37 PM
Lisa Croslin in Putnam County now:

CROSLIN    LISA    CARMEN    9/10/1969   F   W    09-04237    10/14/2009 3:36:39 PM   

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 03:55:43 PM
off topic but are we all females here?
i never realized klaas was a female till muffy's post and it got me curious...
i guess it doesn't matter but now i am curious as to if we have any male regular posters on here...
please respond if you want to


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 03:56:22 PM
Lisa Croslin in Putnam County now:

CROSLIN    LISA    CARMEN    9/10/1969   F   W    09-04237    10/14/2009 3:36:39 PM   

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image86.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 03:56:56 PM
Thanks,Cece and Brandi.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 03:57:22 PM
Klaasend just said last week there is nothing she can do about what is posted  in places other than Scared Monkeys.  Please don't use Haleigh's Missing Person thread as a vehicle to air personal grievances.  It simply does not belong in a missing little girl's thread.   




Thank you MuffyBee.  I often leave this thread because of that very reason.
Me too, it is getting beyond old. Thanks for posting that Muffy. Have we heard where Misty is living, something about a friend, wonder what friend and if Ron has been over to visit her?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 14, 2009, 03:58:56 PM
Thanks,Cece and Brandi.  ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 03:59:35 PM
Can't Putnam County just declare Gma's house a war zone?   ::MonkeyGavel::
i just pictured granny in one of those old school war helmets smoking a cigar and spitting in a can LMAO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 03:59:36 PM
Thanks,Cece and Brandi.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Heh .. I was probably typing when cece hit her enter key.

GMTA ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 14, 2009, 03:59:46 PM
off topic but are we all females here?
i never realized klaas was a female till muffy's post and it got me curious...
i guess it doesn't matter but now i am curious as to if we have any male regular posters on here...
please respond if you want to

I only "know" (have gathered) two ppl i am pretty sure are males...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 04:00:58 PM
Can't Putnam County just declare Gma's house a war zone?   ::MonkeyGavel::
i just pictured granny in one of those old school war helmets smoking a cigar and spitting in a can LMAO

Not much of a stretch is it?

Sorry. I am ashamed of myself for saying that. Sort of.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
Lisa Croslin in Putnam County now:

CROSLIN    LISA    CARMEN    9/10/1969   F   W    09-04237    10/14/2009 3:36:39 PM   

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image86.png)
$1051.20 says hank will get her out soon somehow


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 04:01:33 PM
off topic but are we all females here?
i never realized klaas was a female till muffy's post and it got me curious...
i guess it doesn't matter but now i am curious as to if we have any male regular posters on here...
please respond if you want to

LOL~I remember thinking that in the beginning too and then someone thought she was married to RED ::MonkeyLaugh::......on this thread I think it mainly females, but ya never know by the names whether it's a she or a he ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 14, 2009, 04:02:05 PM
Lisa Croslin in Putnam County now:

CROSLIN    LISA    CARMEN    9/10/1969   F   W    09-04237    10/14/2009 3:36:39 PM   

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx

photo:

(http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=59601)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 04:05:39 PM
Lisa has been around the block more than a few times, wow, 40 years old  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2009, 04:07:52 PM
Klaasend just said last week there is nothing she can do about what is posted  in places other than Scared Monkeys.  Please don't use Haleigh's Missing Person thread as a vehicle to air personal grievances.  It simply does not belong in a missing little girl's thread.   



hey muffy i never got a response from you about if we can post a link to a white pages search... not post a number but rather alink to where a number is... not for the purpose of actually calling people but for more of an address thing


Penny, did you email Klaas at the address I provided? You said something about having problems with your email.  You may want to get a throw away one to use.    I have answered several other questions for you  that had to do with posting telephone numbers.  In my opinion, I would say no, don't post a link to where a number can be found.  I haven't run across that question and that's why I referred you to Klaas, who can also possibly give you a more complete explanation.  If in doubt, just don't post the links for now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: KCJackie on October 14, 2009, 04:09:46 PM
off topic but are we all females here?
i never realized klaas was a female till muffy's post and it got me curious...
i guess it doesn't matter but now i am curious as to if we have any male regular posters on here...
please respond if you want to

LOL~I remember thinking that in the beginning too and then someone thought she was married to RED ::MonkeyLaugh::......on this thread I think it mainly females, but ya never know by the names whether it's a she or a he ::MonkeyTongue::




 ::MonkeyJnBox:: I was the one that thought she was married to Red.


::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 04:09:48 PM
Lisa Croslin in Putnam County now:

CROSLIN    LISA    CARMEN    9/10/1969   F   W    09-04237    10/14/2009 3:36:39 PM   

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx

photo:

(http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=59601)

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: WOW~Hard to believe I'm older than her, she looks older than my grammy ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2009, 04:10:00 PM
off topic but are we all females here?
i never realized klaas was a female till muffy's post and it got me curious...
i guess it doesn't matter but now i am curious as to if we have any male regular posters on here...
please respond if you want to

I only "know" (have gathered) two ppl i am pretty sure are males...

OT~  Yes, there some males that are regular posters at SM.  Please discuss it over in musings, though, okay?   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 04:12:00 PM
off topic but are we all females here?
i never realized klaas was a female till muffy's post and it got me curious...
i guess it doesn't matter but now i am curious as to if we have any male regular posters on here...
please respond if you want to

LOL~I remember thinking that in the beginning too and then someone thought she was married to RED ::MonkeyLaugh::......on this thread I think it mainly females, but ya never know by the names whether it's a she or a he ::MonkeyTongue::




 ::MonkeyJnBox:: I was the one that thought she was married to Red.


::MonkeyTease::

LOL~I knew it remember that one........... ::MonkeyRoll:: 

That was funny ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 04:18:05 PM
I'm guessing years of drug abuse took it's toll on Lisa, how sad. And I wonder how long it will take for the family to come up with the bail money?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 04:20:43 PM
Lisa has been around the block more than a few times, wow, 40 years old  ::MonkeyNoNo::
she looks like a sad old man


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 04:21:25 PM
Can't Putnam County just declare Gma's house a war zone?   ::MonkeyGavel::
i just pictured granny in one of those old school war helmets smoking a cigar and spitting in a can LMAO

Not much of a stretch is it?

Sorry. I am ashamed of myself for saying that. Sort of.




LOL no you're not... your ashamed that you are not ashamed LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 14, 2009, 04:25:38 PM
muffy...
thanks for the answer and no i haven't fixed my email... too lazy to get a throw away one and i hate email anyways ( i get enough at work)
i won't post the links until i confirm with klass
the only reason i ever did was for address/household member verifications
 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 04:26:02 PM
Lisa has been around the block more than a few times, wow, 40 years old  ::MonkeyNoNo::
she looks like a sad old man
Yes, if I didn't know she was a woman, I would be sitting here trying to figure out if the pic was of a male or female  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 04:27:04 PM
off topic but are we all females here?
i never realized klaas was a female till muffy's post and it got me curious...
i guess it doesn't matter but now i am curious as to if we have any male regular posters on here...
please respond if you want to

LOL~I remember thinking that in the beginning too and then someone thought she was married to RED ::MonkeyLaugh::......on this thread I think it mainly females, but ya never know by the names whether it's a she or a he ::MonkeyTongue::




 ::MonkeyJnBox:: I was the one that thought she was married to Red.


::MonkeyTease::

I did too.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 14, 2009, 04:29:04 PM
Lisa looks like she has led a very hard life...a hard life of partying would be my guess...
Misty...look at mom...this is what is in store for you if you don't change your lifestyle..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2009, 04:32:09 PM
muffy...
thanks for the answer and no i haven't fixed my email... too lazy to get a throw away one and i hate email anyways ( i get enough at work)
i won't post the links until i confirm with klass
the only reason i ever did was for address/household member verifications
 ::MonkeyWink::


Okay Penny.   ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 04:47:13 PM
Johnny Marcus Sheffield, Jr. - black truck - on scanner.  Just read this on WS rumor thread, they are saying this is Crystal's brother. Also I am so upset, one of the new posters on WS has as her avi Popcorn Kitty  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 04:50:20 PM
Johnny Marcus Sheffield, Jr. - black truck - on scanner.  Just read this on WS rumor thread, they are saying this is Crystal's brother. Also I am so upset, one of the new posters on WS has as her avi Popcorn Kitty  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 04:52:45 PM
Johnny Marcus Sheffield, Jr. - black truck - on scanner.  Just read this on WS rumor thread, they are saying this is Crystal's brother. Also I am so upset, one of the new posters on WS has as her avi Popcorn Kitty  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyDevil2::
I was like you shouldn't have Popcorn Kitty  ::MonkeyDevil::  Let's see now what happens with Crystal's brother  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 04:59:36 PM
LISA  CARMEN  CROSLIN
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 10/14/2009 3:36:39 PM  - Booking#: 09-04237
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 9/10/1969 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
831.02-   FRAUD UTTER FALSE INSTRUMENT   F   T    $5,004.00    
831.01-   FORGERY OF ALTER PUBLIC RECORD CERTIFICATE ETC   F   T    $5,004.00    
812.014-3a   LARC PETIT 1ST OFF   M   S    $504.00    
                $10,512.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=756988&IMG=


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2009, 05:04:28 PM
Johnny Marcus Sheffield, Jr. - black truck - on scanner.  Just read this on WS rumor thread, they are saying this is Crystal's brother. Also I am so upset, one of the new posters on WS has as her avi Popcorn Kitty  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hope someone shares what else might be said on the scanner.  I just read what is posted here.  If I started listening to the scanner, I think it would be awfully hard to tear myself away... ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Don't worry about some one over yonder using Popcorn Kitty as an avi.  I'm fairly certain it was borrowed from somewhere else before it was posted/used here at Scared Monkeys, IIRC.  But I know what you mean.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 14, 2009, 05:15:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/OXNQZHfOOJo&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0xcc2550&color2=0xe87a9f&border=1

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Tiny-Pink-Glitter-Heart.gif)  Where is Haleigh (http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Tiny-Pink-Glitter-Heart.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 14, 2009, 05:15:58 PM
Johnny Marcus Sheffield, Jr. - black truck - on scanner.  Just read this on WS rumor thread, they are saying this is Crystal's brother. Also I am so upset, one of the new posters on WS has as her avi Popcorn Kitty  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hope someone shares what else might be said on the scanner.  I just read what is posted here.  If I started listening to the scanner, I think it would be awfully hard to tear myself away... ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Don't worry about some one over yonder using Popcorn Kitty as an avi.  I'm fairly certain it was borrowed from somewhere else before it was posted/used here at Scared Monkeys, IIRC.  But I know what you mean.   ::MonkeyDevil::
Popcorn Kitty????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: alagary on October 14, 2009, 05:19:16 PM
little cartoon icon that gets used when waiting for stuff. cant find it now


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 14, 2009, 05:23:08 PM
little cartoon icon that gets used when waiting for stuff. cant find it now

Here I am!!!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/media-MyCollectionOfAsianHorrorTop1.gif)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 05:23:29 PM
Johnny Marcus Sheffield, Jr. - black truck - on scanner.  Just read this on WS rumor thread, they are saying this is Crystal's brother. Also I am so upset, one of the new posters on WS has as her avi Popcorn Kitty  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hope someone shares what else might be said on the scanner.  I just read what is posted here.  If I started listening to the scanner, I think it would be awfully hard to tear myself away... ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Don't worry about some one over yonder using Popcorn Kitty as an avi.  I'm fairly certain it was borrowed from somewhere else before it was posted/used here at Scared Monkeys, IIRC.  But I know what you mean.   ::MonkeyDevil::
I will go see, I could never listen to the scanner, because I don't want to get hooked on it like the webcam in front of the Anthonys, that was addicting, and don't want myself to do that again. I just thought Popcorn Kitty should be here, I honestly never saw that before here, so it surprised me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 05:26:28 PM
little cartoon icon that gets used when waiting for stuff. cant find it now

(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/kittycorn.gif)

 ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 05:28:30 PM
Johnny Marcus Sheffield, Jr. - black truck - on scanner.  Just read this on WS rumor thread, they are saying this is Crystal's brother. Also I am so upset, one of the new posters on WS has as her avi Popcorn Kitty  ::MonkeyRoll::
::MonkeyTongue::

Well frankly with this case I would have to give up popcorn kitty for Valium kitty anyday ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 05:28:32 PM
Cece.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
I need this.

(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/valium-kitty3.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 14, 2009, 05:29:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/OXNQZHfOOJo&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0xcc2550&color2=0xe87a9f&border=1

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Tiny-Pink-Glitter-Heart.gif)  Where is Haleigh (http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Tiny-Pink-Glitter-Heart.gif)

thanks Cece...

see, when I see stuff like this of Haleigh and her family, I really feel bad ...because no matter what, I really feel that this family loved Haleigh to the best of their ability...all of them...I don't think that they have made the best of choices, probably unbeknown to them that the choices were bad that they made...Look at the examples in the parents' lives that they have had for role models....not giving any of them a pass on what happened to Haleigh....but maybe we all could soften our hearts a bit and see that this child is loved......Misty is the key to this, we all know that...I don't believe that her parents, Ron or Crystal had anything to do with her disappearance..
Maybe Ron and Crystal are/have done the best job by their kids that THEY know how to do? dunno...but I do know that when I see pictures and videos such as this with her dad and her family...I just feel bad for all of them, Haleigh the most of course...but they all have to be suffering...jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 14, 2009, 05:30:02 PM
Cece.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
I need this.

(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/valium-kitty3.gif)


I couldn't find that one!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 05:31:24 PM
Johnny Marcus Sheffield, Jr. - black truck - on scanner.  Just read this on WS rumor thread, they are saying this is Crystal's brother. Also I am so upset, one of the new posters on WS has as her avi Popcorn Kitty  ::MonkeyRoll::
::MonkeyTongue::

Well frankly with this case I would have to give up popcorn kitty for Valium kitty anyday ::MonkeyKiss::
I prefer Valium Kitty to Popcorn Kitty, but I like both  ::MonkeyTongue::  I went to the rumor thread to see if anything else was being said about Crystal's brother, I didn't see anything, so who knows?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 05:34:22 PM
Cookie I understand what you are saying, but through the years following a lot of cases, I have seen many happy photos and videos of families, and that didn't stop a family member from hurting or killing a family member. I just don't put a lot into photos, I have many photos of myself with the kids, and nobody would know that the smile was fake, and there was no happiness.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 05:37:46 PM
Cece.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
I need this.

(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/valium-kitty3.gif)
G

Great minds think alike~I was just looking for him :smt117

Thanks for finding him.... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cookie on October 14, 2009, 05:39:26 PM
Cookie I understand what you are saying, but through the years following a lot of cases, I have seen many happy photos and videos of families, and that didn't stop a family member from hurting or killing a family member. I just don't put a lot into photos, I have many photos of myself with the kids, and nobody would know that the smile was fake, and there was no happiness.

I know...I have seen it as well...
this time though...I don't think that the family did anything to Haleigh..jmo...





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 14, 2009, 05:40:27 PM
Thanks to those who filled me in on "Popcorn Kitty", very cute.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: alagary on October 14, 2009, 05:46:49 PM
smile NRCG , can't hurt  ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 05:47:07 PM
Thanks to those who filled me in on "Popcorn Kitty", very cute.

We usually bring him out when there is a court case to watch.

Just so you know. ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 05:47:56 PM
Cookie I understand what you are saying, but through the years following a lot of cases, I have seen many happy photos and videos of families, and that didn't stop a family member from hurting or killing a family member. I just don't put a lot into photos, I have many photos of myself with the kids, and nobody would know that the smile was fake, and there was no happiness.

I know...I have seen it as well...
this time though...I don't think that the family did anything to Haleigh..jmo...




We may never know  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 05:49:27 PM
smile NRCG , can't hurt  ::MonkeyTease::
I do, just don't feel like it, but there is always a fake smile available  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: alagary on October 14, 2009, 05:51:54 PM
We'll smile and high five when there is an arrest in this


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 05:57:06 PM
We'll smile and high five when there is an arrest in this
Yes, and let's hope soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 14, 2009, 06:28:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/OXNQZHfOOJo&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0xcc2550&color2=0xe87a9f&border=1

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Tiny-Pink-Glitter-Heart.gif)  Where is Haleigh (http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Tiny-Pink-Glitter-Heart.gif)

thanks Cece...

see, when I see stuff like this of Haleigh and her family, I really feel bad ...because no matter what, I really feel that this family loved Haleigh to the best of their ability...all of them...I don't think that they have made the best of choices, probably unbeknown to them that the choices were bad that they made...Look at the examples in the parents' lives that they have had for role models....not giving any of them a pass on what happened to Haleigh....but maybe we all could soften our hearts a bit and see that this child is loved......Misty is the key to this, we all know that...I don't believe that her parents, Ron or Crystal had anything to do with her disappearance..
Maybe Ron and Crystal are/have done the best job by their kids that THEY know how to do? dunno...but I do know that when I see pictures and videos such as this with her dad and her family...I just feel bad for all of them, Haleigh the most of course...but they all have to be suffering...jmo

I agree Cookie,
Those children look comfortable and happy.  It isn't fake and there is no fear in their faces.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 14, 2009, 06:30:24 PM
http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=e63aa670abc242e1df9c812fecc832bd&topic=23.4500

Hi Monkeys,

fourth post down (I think) on the link above: FAB going on tour? Does he sing? Really what kind of tour? $$$$,? TIA.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 06:34:24 PM
http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=e63aa670abc242e1df9c812fecc832bd&topic=23.4500

Hi Monkeys,

fourth post down (I think) on the link above: FAB going on tour? Does he sing? Really what kind of tour? $$$$,? TIA.

I cannot speak for that poster, but the way I take it, he/she meant he might go on some shows to talk about Haleigh in order to get money and hire a PI.

Just my take on it. They may have meant something entirely different.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 06:54:06 PM
Originally Posted by camcneishg 
ok, listen to me here....I just got off the phone with DCF...they called me, I did not call them.....the FIRST they heard about this gun situation was yesterday after my call into LE.....they are calling Tim NOW.....unreal, huh??? looks like LE dropped the ball when TM told them about this....it should have been reported right away...and wasn't.....UNREAL!!         ::MonkeyEek::  I just read this on WS, though you all might be interested.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 06:57:16 PM
theNancyGrace Everyone RT: #HLN. We are going to make this a trending topic before 8 o'clock!

theNancyGrace RT @HLNTV Tonight on Nancy Grace: Tension in Hayleigh Cummings case heats up, Misty Croslin's mom locked up. Details at 8pm ET on #HLN11 minutes ago from web

theNancyGrace Urgent: Amber Alert Issued for 1-yr-old boy! Missing: Malakai Izaak Mascorro Age: 1 From: Justin, Denton County, T (cont) http://tl.gd/m0ts18 minutes ago from Twitlonger

http://twitter.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 14, 2009, 07:04:29 PM
http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=e63aa670abc242e1df9c812fecc832bd&topic=23.4500

Hi Monkeys,

fourth post down (I think) on the link above: FAB going on tour? Does he sing? Really what kind of tour? $$$$,? TIA.

I cannot speak for that poster, but the way I take it, he/she meant he might go on some shows to talk about Haleigh in order to get money and hire a PI.

Just my take on it. They may have meant something entirely different.



Thank-you. Good luck to him, what will the PI find almost a year later? ...

Cobra did a great job, locating WBG, N.N., the (supposely) new PI would have an easy job connecting the dots?

Is the divorce isn't final?  When the papers are signed it that final?  or could the divorce be withdrawn?  TIA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 07:11:01 PM
My mind is blank, Simon Barret, please could someone give me the link to his site? I just for the life of me can't remember  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks, when I get done making supper there was something I needed to check on, on his site. Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 07:13:44 PM
Originally Posted by camcneishg 
ok, listen to me here....I just got off the phone with DCF...they called me, I did not call them.....the FIRST they heard about this gun situation was yesterday after my call into LE.....they are calling Tim NOW.....unreal, huh??? looks like LE dropped the ball when TM told them about this....it should have been reported right away...and wasn't.....UNREAL!!         ::MonkeyEek::  I just read this on WS, though you all might be interested.
::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::  Go ahead, ask me if I'm surprised but this.....wondering about the GOB network in that county ::MonkeyBike::

O/T ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: Just got my son's STAR reading report and it's 11.5 ::MonkeySkate:: Now, I'm wondering if they sent me home with someone else's baby ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 14, 2009, 07:15:41 PM
My mind is blank, Simon Barret, please could someone give me the link to his site? I just for the life of me can't remember  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks, when I get done making supper there was something I needed to check on, on his site. Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

Here is his home page.  Is this what you were looking for?

http://www.bloggernews.net/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 07:16:29 PM
Originally Posted by camcneishg 
ok, listen to me here....I just got off the phone with DCF...they called me, I did not call them.....the FIRST they heard about this gun situation was yesterday after my call into LE.....they are calling Tim NOW.....unreal, huh??? looks like LE dropped the ball when TM told them about this....it should have been reported right away...and wasn't.....UNREAL!!         ::MonkeyEek::  I just read this on WS, though you all might be interested.

Forgot to say thank you NRCG ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 07:16:58 PM
My mind is blank, Simon Barret, please could someone give me the link to his site? I just for the life of me can't remember  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks, when I get done making supper there was something I needed to check on, on his site. Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::
http://www.bloggernews.net/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 14, 2009, 07:19:44 PM
No Rose, here is the link to his last article on Haleigh:

http://www.bloggernews.net/122624

Haleigh Cummings Update: Rumors of Dad and His Guns Spark Investigation
Posted on October 14th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in crime
Read 3,053 times.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 14, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
My mind is blank, Simon Barret, please could someone give me the link to his site? I just for the life of me can't remember  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks, when I get done making supper there was something I needed to check on, on his site. Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


?? is this it ?? http://zzsimonb.blogspot.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 07:31:28 PM
My mind is blank, Simon Barret, please could someone give me the link to his site? I just for the life of me can't remember  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks, when I get done making supper there was something I needed to check on, on his site. Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.bloggernews.net/

You're cooking?    ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 07:40:57 PM
DCF in FLorida fails yet again: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

ESCAMBIA COUNTY - A mother...charged with causing the death of her 18-month old daughter...and throwing her body in the trash... will have her first appearance in court today.

It's continuing coverage of a story we brought you yesterday...
Christian Rochelle Woods is also facing child cruelty charges...In addition to a manslaughter charge.

Escambia County Sheriff David Morgan says Woods left town last Friday and went to Mobile.

Morgan says she left her children...Two year old son Jetarious...and one year old twins Myleaha and Mykayhla...alone in a home on Scotland Circle.

They only had six open containers of jello to eat.
The home had no electricity or running water.
Investigators say, when Woods returned she called them from a nearby grocery store, claiming that...
Myleaha was missing.

But deputies didn't believe Woods...and contacted a grandfather who went to the home.

He found Jetarious malnourished and with a welt on his forehead.
That's when deputies arrested Woods.

Twelve hours later...investigators say she admitted to putting Myleaha's body in a trash can behind the house.

Investigators then found Mykayhla alive under a bed.
Mykayhla and Jetarious were hospitalized.
Woods is being held in the Escambia County Jail without bond.
Death Investigation• IN FLORIDA NEWS


DCF had investigated and found no reason to remove these innocent children :gaah: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

http://www.weartv.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wear_vid_4482.shtml



Baby dead in trash, 2 others neglected
Woman left kids alone for 2 days, officials say
Thyrie Bland and Rebekah Allen • tbland@pnj.com / rallen@pnj.com • October 14, 2009

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  A mother of three toddlers confessed that she found one of her 18-month-old twin daughters dead and put the baby's body in a trash can after leaving the children alone for two days, authorities said Tuesday.


 
Christian Rochelle Woods, 21, a single mother, left her children home alone from 10 a.m. Saturday to 9:30 a.m. Monday with only six cups of Jell-O in the living room, Sheriff David Morgan said.


When Woods returned, she found her daughter, Myleahya, dead and put her body in the trash can at her back door, Morgan said.


This afternoon, she was in court to answer a manslaughter charge in connection to the toddler's death. She also is charged with aggravated child abuse due to neglect of Mykayhla, and her 2-year-old son, Jaterius. This afternoon, Jaterius was in good condition and Mykayhla was in fair condition at Sacred Heart Hospital.

Judge John Simon set bail totaling $1 million: $500,000 for the manslaughter and $250,000 for each child abuse charge.


Assistant State Attorney John Molchan represented the State Attorney's Office.


When Simon asked if anyone was there to speak on Christian Wood's behalf, no one in the courtroom spoke.


Molchan said an autopsy revealed the toddler weighed 11 pounds. Though the children were left with cups of Jell-O, there was food in the pantry and milk in the refrigerator.

The case began about 3 a.m. Tuesday when investigators found Myleahya's body and her twin, Mykayhla, barely alive under a bed at a home in the 5600 block of Scotland Circle in Bellview.

"I was, obviously, shocked by the case itself," Morgan said.

A cup of water and bottle of cranberry juice sat on the sidewalk in front of Christian Woods' Scotland Circle residence this morning.


Yellow crime-scene tape were all that remained in a trash can outside the house.


Residents in the neighborhood remained shocked a day after the case unfolded.


"I don't like to think about," said Woods' neighbor Martin McManus, a single father of a 13-year-old boy. "All you can do is try to keep your own children safe."

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McManus has lived two houses from Woods for about a year but said he never spoke with her nor saw her outside with her children.


"This is not a rough neighborhood, but I never expected anyone like that lived here," he said of Woods.


Jeff Martin, spokesman for the medical examiner's office, was not available this morning to comment about Myleahya's cause of death. Other employees with the office said Martin is the only person who can release information about an ongoing case.


Mykayhla and Jaterius were at Sacred Heart Hospital on Tuesday being treated for signs of neglect, including dehydration. Morgan said his officers have been told the children are expected to survive.



The siblings were left alone at a rental home that had no electricity or running water, Morgan said.

Jell-O cups were left in the living room for the children to eat while the mother was away, he said. There was no water or juice available.


Woods' electricity was disconnected on Monday, Gulf Power Co. spokesman Jeff Rogers said, adding Woods allowed a grace period to expire. The company was working with Woods to keep the electricity flowing, Rogers said.

Woods told investigators she was at work in Mobile, Morgan said. The sheriff said his office has not verified that she has a job there.

Woods' arrest report lists her as being unemployed.

Woods was being held without bond Tuesday at Escambia County Jail.

An autopsy was performed Tuesday on Myleahya, but the results were not available. A time of death has not been established, Morgan said.

Missing-child report
The story of the children began to unfold about 2:30 p.m Monday when their mother went to a Winn-Dixie and called the Sheriff's Office to report Myleahya was missing and possibly abducted, Morgan said.

She also called a grandparent and asked him to go to her home to get the other children. The grandfather found only the 2-year-old boy at the home, Morgan said.

Investigators went to the home but did not find the twin girls, according to an arrest report.

The investigators launched "an aggressive investigation" to find them, the report says.

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Investigators questioned Woods for about 12 hours, and she gave conflicting stories about what happened to the children, Morgan said. She finally admitted that Myleahya was dead, and she thought Mykayhla was still alive, he said.



Investigators went to the home at about 3 a.m. Tuesday and found Myleahya in a trash can behind the home.

They found Mykayhla under a bed. They thought she was dead, too, until her eyes fluttered, Morgan said.

"I can tell you that there was jubilation in the room," the sheriff said.

Morgan said the home that the children were left in was in disarray.

"The home was filthy, and there were several roaches throughout the home," according to a Sheriff's Office arrest report.

The Department of Children and Families has visited the house in the past. There was a complaint of neglect filed concerning the boy, said Janice Thomas, circuit administrator for the Department of Children and Families.
::MonkeyNoNo::


Thomas could not provide details of the case, citing privacy laws. But she said the department did not recommend the child be removed from the house nor any court action.

Neighbors react
Crime scene unit investigators paraded in and out of Woods' empty home Tuesday afternoon.

The house stands out in the quiet Bellview neighborhood, with its thick, overgrown grass in a neighborhood of well-kept lawns. The blinds were cracked and broken and a paring knife was lying in the driveway.

On the front porch, there was an unopened box of 82 Parent's Choice diapers. There also was a tiny, red ladybug costume lying above a tiny tan lion costume.

Neighbors said they hardly knew Woods and said she mostly kept to herself. Most neighbors refused to be identified for this story.

Charlotte Potter, 56, has lived across the street from Woods' home since 1986. She said Woods lived there about a year, but they only spoke once when her car battery died, and she needed a jump to get to work.

"She talked real kind and real soft. I would have never guessed," Potter said. "It makes me just sick to my stomach though. I was never fortunate to have kids of my own. I would have tried to help her if I had known."

Neighbors said Woods had an erratic schedule that had her coming home sometimes in the middle of the night.

Some neighbors said they didn't realize she had children.

Potter said it seemed like Woods lived alone with her children, but sometimes another woman she guessed was an older sister stayed with her.

Potter saw an elderly man at the house Monday evening.

"I thought he was looking for the lady that lives here," Potter said. "He said no, he said he was concerned about his two granddaughters."






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cece on October 14, 2009, 07:46:27 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/101409_Lisa_Croslin_extradited_to_Florida

Lisa Croslin extradited to Florida

Updated: Wednesday, 14 Oct 2009, 7:09 PM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 14 Oct 2009, 7:09 PM EDT

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The mother of Misty Croslin Cummings has been extradited to Florida from Tennessee. Lisa Carmen Croslin, 40, was arrested on September 24 in the Nashville area on charges of forgery. She was returned to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office on Tuesday.

Police said her arrest was not related to the case of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, whom investigators said disappeared in February of this year while in the care of Lisa's daughter Misty.

(http://media2.myfoxorlando.com//photo/2009/10/14/lisa_carmen_croslin_20091014190831_320_240.JPG)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 14, 2009, 07:49:38 PM
and she gave conflicting stories about what happened to the children, Morgan said. She finally admitted that Myleahya was dead...... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 07:56:29 PM
and she gave conflicting stories about what happened to the children, Morgan said. She finally admitted that Myleahya was dead...... ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyWaa:: Yes - the baby was dumped in the trash can, and then I read there was no electricity and it's been in the 90's here with high humidity....these babies had to be burning up  :2brickwall: :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 14, 2009, 07:57:00 PM
and she gave conflicting stories about what happened to the children, Morgan said. She finally admitted that Myleahya was dead...... ::MonkeyEek::

In my opinion that should be 1st degree murder. OMG how cruel can a human be. These incubators  should be sterilized so they can never have another child.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 08:02:22 PM
Didn't someone report that Misty was going to be in NY this Thursday as well as last Thursday?

Tomorrow is Thursday. Has anyone heard anything about her whereabouts?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 08:02:40 PM
and she gave conflicting stories about what happened to the children, Morgan said. She finally admitted that Myleahya was dead...... ::MonkeyEek::

In my opinion that should be 1st degree murder. OMG how cruel can a human be. These incubators  should be sterilized so they can never have another child.

Me too, I think they may charge it up from there ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 14, 2009, 08:02:56 PM
NG is referring to Misty as Croslin now instead of Cummings....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 08:06:57 PM
NG is referring to Misty as Croslin now instead of Cummings....

I think that is normal. She called her Croslin 2 nights ago:

Quote
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, Satsuma, Florida. A 5- year-old little girl tucked into bed, five hours later, she`s gone, vanished, the back door propped wide open. Daddy comes home from the night shift to find not a trace of little Haleigh. The last person to see the 5- year-old alive that night, new stepmother Misty Croslin.

Bombshell tonight. Just hours after Croslin handcuffed by cops on alleged road rage, she flies first class to New York, taking to the air to declare she`s innocent. How does a fish get caught? He opens his mouth. Even in one brief interview, she can`t keep her story straight. Minutes after Croslin`s debacle on national TV, her lawyer dumps her.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 14, 2009, 08:08:21 PM
Donna Brock and Misty were at Orlando,Universal.and Cocoa Beach


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 08:08:48 PM
NG is referring to Misty as Croslin now instead of Cummings....

I think that is normal. She called her Croslin 2 nights ago:

Quote
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, Satsuma, Florida. A 5- year-old little girl tucked into bed, five hours later, she`s gone, vanished, the back door propped wide open. Daddy comes home from the night shift to find not a trace of little Haleigh. The last person to see the 5- year-old alive that night, new stepmother Misty Croslin.

Bombshell tonight. Just hours after Croslin handcuffed by cops on alleged road rage, she flies first class to New York, taking to the air to declare she`s innocent. How does a fish get caught? He opens his mouth. Even in one brief interview, she can`t keep her story straight. Minutes after Croslin`s debacle on national TV, her lawyer dumps her.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/12/ng.01.html

I think you are right, I never heard her ever call her Cummings that I can remember ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 08:09:36 PM
Didn't someone report that Misty was going to be in NY this Thursday as well as last Thursday?

Tomorrow is Thursday. Has anyone heard anything about her whereabouts?



I haven't seen anything.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 08:10:51 PM
Didn't someone report that Misty was going to be in NY this Thursday as well as last Thursday?

Tomorrow is Thursday. Has anyone heard anything about her whereabouts?



I haven't seen anything.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks, Trimm.

I thought it might be in error when I read it the other day.

Probably was.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:10:54 PM
AH on Ng said that Donna Brock was not an agent of LE, but of TM. This was working until the road rage incident. According to TM someone tried to run Brock and Misty off the road in the road rage.

Schiavo says that TM's scheme did not work at all. Nothing was gleaned from the scheme.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 14, 2009, 08:10:56 PM
Donna says that she heard Misty talking to Ronald on the phone and Misty was very aggressive/mean in the way that she was talking to Ron...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:13:01 PM
Donna says that she heard Misty talking to Ronald on the phone and Misty was very aggressive/mean in the way that she was talking to Ron...

NG to Nejame: Your client is up in the investigation.

Nejame: If Tim could do a do over he would.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: my2cents on October 14, 2009, 08:13:43 PM
gotta go check on the mother in law....looks like NG is going to be old news anyway....NG has to be fast to get a bombshell before the monkey do  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:16:13 PM
Didn't someone report that Misty was going to be in NY this Thursday as well as last Thursday?

Tomorrow is Thursday. Has anyone heard anything about her whereabouts?



I haven't seen anything.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks, Trimm.

I thought it might be in error when I read it the other day.

Probably was.

Yes, there was a report of Misty going to NY this coming Thurs., reported on Blogger Talk Radio by TJ Hart this past Sunday.

Don't know if her present circumstances is going to effect that trip or not.  No Donna, no Ronald.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:18:55 PM
My mind is blank, Simon Barret, please could someone give me the link to his site? I just for the life of me can't remember  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks, when I get done making supper there was something I needed to check on, on his site. Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

Here is his home page.  Is this what you were looking for?

http://www.bloggernews.net/
Yes, thank-you so much, I just couldn't remember  ::MonkeyConfused::  Congrats IM with your son  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 08:20:12 PM
My mind is blank, Simon Barret, please could someone give me the link to his site? I just for the life of me can't remember  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks, when I get done making supper there was something I needed to check on, on his site. Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

Here is his home page.  Is this what you were looking for?

http://www.bloggernews.net/
Yes, thank-you so much, I just couldn't remember  ::MonkeyConfused::  Congrats IM with your son  ::MonkeyAngel::

YW~although after reading the score I wonder if he is really mine ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:23:25 PM
NG: Talk of Misty having learning disabilities.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:28:17 PM
No Rose, here is the link to his last article on Haleigh:

http://www.bloggernews.net/122624

Haleigh Cummings Update: Rumors of Dad and His Guns Spark Investigation
Posted on October 14th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in crime
Read 3,053 times.
That is what I wanted the new article and the comments  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks for all the responses to my question, I appreciate it  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:29:35 PM
My mind is blank, Simon Barret, please could someone give me the link to his site? I just for the life of me can't remember  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks, when I get done making supper there was something I needed to check on, on his site. Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.bloggernews.net/

You're cooking?    ::MonkeyDevil2::
Microwaving, my specialty  ::MonkeyRoll:: Thanks, the comments on the new article, they get a little mean over there  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:30:11 PM
AH on Ng said that Donna Brock was not an agent of LE, but of TM. This was working until the road rage incident. According to TM someone tried to run Brock and Misty off the road in the road rage. ::MonkeySlide::

Schiavo says that TM's scheme did not work at all. Nothing was gleaned from the scheme.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:30:48 PM
My mind is blank, Simon Barret, please could someone give me the link to his site? I just for the life of me can't remember  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks, when I get done making supper there was something I needed to check on, on his site. Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


?? is this it ?? http://zzsimonb.blogspot.com
Thanks, I have never seen this blog of his before, interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:33:37 PM
Marc Klass going off on TM big time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:33:41 PM
and she gave conflicting stories about what happened to the children, Morgan said. She finally admitted that Myleahya was dead...... ::MonkeyEek::
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just one horrible story after another.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:37:09 PM
Nejame vs Klass

Ellie Jostad said that Shoemaker stated that RC does not remember saying that he would blow Misty's teeth through the back of his head.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:38:11 PM
Didn't someone report that Misty was going to be in NY this Thursday as well as last Thursday?

Tomorrow is Thursday. Has anyone heard anything about her whereabouts?



I haven't seen anything.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
Me either, and thanks for all the NG updates  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 08:38:30 PM
and she gave conflicting stories about what happened to the children, Morgan said. She finally admitted that Myleahya was dead...... ::MonkeyEek::
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just one horrible story after another.
I know-I was shocked when I heard it on the news tonight, then furious when I heard DCF had found the allegations of neglect unfounded ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:39:19 PM
If TM did not have a recorder with him during these conversations with RC, TM just might be chit out of luck.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:39:47 PM
Donna says that she heard Misty talking to Ronald on the phone and Misty was very aggressive/mean in the way that she was talking to Ron...
A girl/woman not only scorned, but used as well, never a good outcome when that happens  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 08:41:24 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 08:42:20 PM
If Misty "runs Ron", then either she's got dirt on him, or he's got it really really bad for her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 08:45:18 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark

As a guest on the NG show, I have noticed many times where MK speaks out on something and really does not have his facts straight.

My opinion of him as an "expert" guest has dwindled over time so that I don't put too much stock in what he says, personally.

That's just my opinion of him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 08:45:40 PM
If TM did not have a recorder with him during these conversations with RC, TM just might be chit out of luck.
HaleighNewz NANCY GRACE: Ronald's attorney says that Ronald does not remember saying those things to Tim Miller.5 minutes ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:47:09 PM
gotta go check on the mother in law....looks like NG is going to be old news anyway....NG has to be fast to get a bombshell before the monkey do  ::MonkeyTongue::
Have a good evening  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:48:50 PM
Marc Klass going off on TM big time.
   ::MonkeyEek::  Not again


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:49:27 PM
Nejame vs Klass

Ellie Jostad said that Shoemaker stated that RC does not remember saying that he would blow Misty's teeth through the back of his head.



  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:50:11 PM
If TM did not have a recorder with him during these conversations with RC, TM just might be chit out of luck.
I would imagine so  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 08:51:07 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: clarice on October 14, 2009, 08:53:52 PM
I hope that TM had a recorder because I firmly believe RC threatened that. How convenient that RC does not "RECALL" saying that...hmmmmmm.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 14, 2009, 08:58:23 PM
Nejame vs Klass

Ellie Jostad said that Shoemaker stated that RC does not remember saying that he would blow Misty's teeth through the back of his head.



  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ron finds saying that he does not remember will be better than admitting to the truth....in Sinsuma you can get away with that. That bunch is way out of control.jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::
for impeding on an investigation, per the donkey's rear


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 09:05:10 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::

All I can say about that Putnam County is giving Cobra a run for his money or lack of his money  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:06:39 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark

As a guest on the NG show, I have noticed many times where MK speaks out on something and really does not have his facts straight.

My opinion of him as an "expert" guest has dwindled over time so that I don't put too much stock in what he says, personally.

That's just my opinion of him.
yes, Nancy is usually days behind, so no surprise her guests are too.  Mark doesn't need to be such a jerk because from what I'm reading online he just screwed himself with a lot of people.  He'll probably lose donations because of his snarky attitude before he loses donations because of anything TM did. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:08:17 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::

All I can say about that Putnam County is giving Cobra a run for his money or lack of his money  ::MonkeyEek::
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm beginning to wonder just what the heck is going on in PC.  Somebody there may just be dirty.  This is getting ridiculous.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:10:38 PM
I take back any snarky comments I made about Mark Nejame.  He's redeemed himself, IMO.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:11:38 PM
Okay,  I'm all alone here again!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 09:12:13 PM
I hope that TM had a recorder because I firmly believe RC threatened that. How convenient that RC does not "RECALL" saying that...hmmmmmm.
A recorder, or third, fourth, fifth party that heard Ronald say all that TM is saying RC said.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 09:13:05 PM
Okay,  I'm all alone here again!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


You are not alone 04Bull!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 09:14:09 PM
I take back any snarky comments I made about Mark Nejame.  He's redeemed himself, IMO.   ::MonkeyDevil::
Yeah, because imho, he is the wizard behind the curtain.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 09:14:21 PM
Nejame vs Klass

Ellie Jostad said that Shoemaker stated that RC does not remember saying that he would blow Misty's teeth through the back of his head.



  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ron finds saying that he does not remember will be better than admitting to the truth....in Sinsuma you can get away with that. That bunch is way out of control.jmo

Yup.

Seems to have worked for all these months so far for Misty.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 09:18:18 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::

All I can say about that Putnam County is giving Cobra a run for his money or lack of his money  ::MonkeyEek::
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm beginning to wonder just what the heck is going on in PC.  Somebody there may just be dirty.  This is getting ridiculous.
There has been talk among some of the outsiders (TJ, Cobra, perhaps AH) that has hinted around about dirt going on within the Force.  Cobra has been the more vocal of it.  Statements have been made that some in the Force wants Sheriff Hardy's job.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:19:57 PM
Okay,  I'm all alone here again!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


You are not alone 04Bull!
ah, thanks Heart!  I was beginning to feel like the thread killer. LOL

What do you mean the wizard?  :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:23:11 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::

All I can say about that Putnam County is giving Cobra a run for his money or lack of his money  ::MonkeyEek::
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm beginning to wonder just what the heck is going on in PC.  Somebody there may just be dirty.  This is getting ridiculous.
There has been talk among some of the outsiders (TJ, Cobra, perhaps AH) that has hinted around about dirt going on within the Force.  Cobra has been the more vocal of it.  Statements have been made that some in the Force wants Sheriff Hardy's job.
I've haven't heard that, sounds interesting.  Not sure what to think about Cobra as I was "away" for a while and missed a lot of that stuff, IIRC.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 09:27:27 PM
So, as of last count, I come up with Misty's mother and Misty's brother and Crystal's sister are in jail.

Have I missed any other "family" members?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 09:29:42 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::

All I can say about that Putnam County is giving Cobra a run for his money or lack of his money  ::MonkeyEek::
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm beginning to wonder just what the heck is going on in PC.  Somebody there may just be dirty.  This is getting ridiculous.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling that way ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:30:38 PM
I remember one of the "talking heads" (a lawyer, but I don't recall which one ATM) said that he got paid better being an expert on a panel (ie...NG, Greta, Geraldo) than in practice (he was a regular guest).  I may be misremembering (is that a word?) and it could be that another guest was simply commenting that attorneys can make more money as a regular guest than a practicing attorney.  Anyway, the point is that MK gets paid for his opinion.  NG has mentioned before that he is her good friend and she is donating proceeds from her book to his foundation IIRC.  I didn't hear her take up for TM, but she didn't bash him either.  Last time she did, she caught a bunch of backlash from viewers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:32:37 PM
So, as of last count, I come up with Misty's mother and Misty's brother and Crystal's sister are in jail.

Have I missed any other "family" members?
I read that Crystal's brother was pulled over (was heard on the scanner) but think it was for no insurance because they were supposed to take his tags (which meant car would be impounded).  I didn't stay with the convo, but while I was reading they said it was her dad or brother, most likely her brother.  Don't quote me!!  Maybe someone else saw it?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 09:34:46 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::
for impeding on an investigation, per the donkey's rear

IMO Mark Klass may be jealous of Tim.......I can't find any other reason for him to continually berate Tim Miller, I' sure his organization does a good job at whatever they do, but this is about the 4th time he's gone off on Tim in months and I'd bet if his daughter's case was as cold as this one was, he'd do just about anything to get answers and justice! I commend TM, whatever it takes-it's not like he's destroyed anyone's character or morals you have to have them first place in order to destroy them ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 09:35:08 PM
So, as of last count, I come up with Misty's mother and Misty's brother and Crystal's sister are in jail.

Have I missed any other "family" members?
I read that Crystal's brother was pulled over (was heard on the scanner) but think it was for no insurance because they were supposed to take his tags (which meant car would be impounded).  I didn't stay with the convo, but while I was reading they said it was her dad or brother, most likely her brother.  Don't quote me!!  Maybe someone else saw it?

It's just too bad the family cannot stay out of jail long enough to find Haleigh.

She just keeps getting lost again. In all the commotion.

So darned sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: cw618 on October 14, 2009, 09:39:59 PM
hi monkeys late as usual
i thought i would help you with
the mileage, from -to- satsuma

http://www.freemaptools.com/how-far-is-it-between.htm

East Palatka, Florida -TO- satsuma,florida
Distance as the Crow Flies....7.581
Distance by Land Transport....10.004

fruitland, Florida -TO- satsuma,florida
Distance as the Crow Flies....8.861
Distance by Land Transport....10.044

crescent city, Florida -TO- satsuma,florida
Distance as the Crow Flies....12.272
Distance by Land Transport....13.128

i forget who asked about the phone listings
for the phone book listing for TN, that could
just be the, listing had not updated yet
in my area the listings update every fall
and idk what to think, about the lastest
drama of cummings & co. its like reading a B movie


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 09:42:13 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::
for impeding on an investigation, per the donkey's rear

IMO Mark Klass may be jealous of Tim.......I can't find any other reason for him to continually berate Tim Miller, I' sure his organization does a good job at whatever they do, but this is about the 4th time he's gone off on Tim in months and I'd bet if his daughter's case was as cold as this one was, he'd do just about anything to get answers and justice! I commend TM, whatever it takes-it's not like he's destroyed anyone's character or morals you have to have them first place in order to destroy them ::MonkeyDevil2::
BBM ...  no kidding!  and I agree MK is jealous that TM has a bigger following than him, IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 09:48:22 PM
Okay,  I'm all alone here again!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


You are not alone 04Bull!
ah, thanks Heart!  I was beginning to feel like the thread killer. LOL

What do you mean the wizard?  :)

Do you think that TM came up with that little Donna Mamma thing all by himself.

I don't.

Who do you think was behind obtaining the Voice analysis guy, and the hypnotist.  I don't think it was TM idea.

TM is just the  man in the middle, but I hope that he does not get caught up as NG stated.

I did hear it said after Misty's polygraph and hynosis that TM is carrying out things that his boss legally cannot and/or should not.  More or less a civilian can where a legal person cannot.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 09:49:28 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::
for impeding on an investigation, per the donkey's rear

IMO Mark Klass may be jealous of Tim.......I can't find any other reason for him to continually berate Tim Miller, I' sure his organization does a good job at whatever they do, but this is about the 4th time he's gone off on Tim in months and I'd bet if his daughter's case was as cold as this one was, he'd do just about anything to get answers and justice! I commend TM, whatever it takes-it's not like he's destroyed anyone's character or morals you have to have them first place in order to destroy them ::MonkeyDevil2::
BBM ...  no kidding!  and I agree MK is jealous that TM has a bigger following than him, IMO

And more succesfull at finding the missing.
 ::MonkeyGavel::
Missed you today, glad to see you back!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 09:54:10 PM
So, as of last count, I come up with Misty's mother and Misty's brother and Crystal's sister are in jail.

Have I missed any other "family" members?
I read that Crystal's brother was pulled over (was heard on the scanner) but think it was for no insurance because they were supposed to take his tags (which meant car would be impounded).  I didn't stay with the convo, but while I was reading they said it was her dad or brother, most likely her brother.  Don't quote me!!  Maybe someone else saw it?

It's just too bad the family cannot stay out of jail long enough to find Haleigh.

She just keeps getting lost again. In all the commotion.

So darned sad.

When they are out of jail are they looking for HaLeigh? If so, it is well hidden.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 09:55:53 PM
So, as of last count, I come up with Misty's mother and Misty's brother and Crystal's sister are in jail.

Have I missed any other "family" members?
I read that Crystal's brother was pulled over (was heard on the scanner) but think it was for no insurance because they were supposed to take his tags (which meant car would be impounded).  I didn't stay with the convo, but while I was reading they said it was her dad or brother, most likely her brother.  Don't quote me!!  Maybe someone else saw it?

It's just too bad the family cannot stay out of jail long enough to find Haleigh.

She just keeps getting lost again. In all the commotion.

So darned sad.

When they are out of jail are they looking for HaLeigh? If so, it is well hidden.

I meant they should be looking for her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 14, 2009, 09:59:14 PM
Good night.

Apparently my posts are not making sense.

Must be tired.

Maybe tomorrow Haleigh will be found.

Have a good night, monkeys.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 10:12:27 PM
Good night.

Apparently my posts are not making sense.

Must be tired.

Maybe tomorrow Haleigh will be found.

Have a good night, monkeys.

Night Brandy, get some rest ....we are all frustrated with this case I'm amazed any post makes any sense anymore ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 10:15:01 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::
for impeding on an investigation, per the donkey's rear

IMO Mark Klass may be jealous of Tim.......I can't find any other reason for him to continually berate Tim Miller, I' sure his organization does a good job at whatever they do, but this is about the 4th time he's gone off on Tim in months and I'd bet if his daughter's case was as cold as this one was, he'd do just about anything to get answers and justice! I commend TM, whatever it takes-it's not like he's destroyed anyone's character or morals you have to have them first place in order to destroy them ::MonkeyDevil2::
BBM ...  no kidding!  and I agree MK is jealous that TM has a bigger following than him, IMO

And more succesfull at finding the missing.
 ::MonkeyGavel::
Missed you today, glad to see you back!
thank you.  I was here this morning for a bit.  ::MonkeyAngel:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 10:16:02 PM
Good night.

Apparently my posts are not making sense.

Must be tired.

Maybe tomorrow Haleigh will be found.

Have a good night, monkeys.
  night Brandi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 10:17:43 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::
for impeding on an investigation, per the donkey's rear

IMO Mark Klass may be jealous of Tim.......I can't find any other reason for him to continually berate Tim Miller, I' sure his organization does a good job at whatever they do, but this is about the 4th time he's gone off on Tim in months and I'd bet if his daughter's case was as cold as this one was, he'd do just about anything to get answers and justice! I commend TM, whatever it takes-it's not like he's destroyed anyone's character or morals you have to have them first place in order to destroy them ::MonkeyDevil2::
BBM ...  no kidding!  and I agree MK is jealous that TM has a bigger following than him, IMO

And more succesfull at finding the missing.
 ::MonkeyGavel::
Missed you today, glad to see you back!
thank you.  I was here this morning for a bit.  ::MonkeyAngel:: 

I saw your post, but missed catching you online.....I wuz at werk and just popping in and out between trades ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 10:19:04 PM
Okay,  I'm all alone here again!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


You are not alone 04Bull!
ah, thanks Heart!  I was beginning to feel like the thread killer. LOL

What do you mean the wizard?  :)

Do you think that TM came up with that little Donna Mamma thing all by himself.

I don't.

Who do you think was behind obtaining the Voice analysis guy, and the hypnotist.  I don't think it was TM idea.

TM is just the  man in the middle, but I hope that he does not get caught up as NG stated.

I did hear it said after Misty's polygraph and hynosis that TM is carrying out things that his boss legally cannot and/or should not.  More or less a civilian can where a legal person cannot.
 
I thought that's what you meant, but I didn't know for sure.  I agree and I also think MN may have helped fund it too.  I think he got a little taste of the A's and he doesn't want to see a repeat with misty (ie...casey).  JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 10:21:45 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::
for impeding on an investigation, per the donkey's rear

IMO Mark Klass may be jealous of Tim.......I can't find any other reason for him to continually berate Tim Miller, I' sure his organization does a good job at whatever they do, but this is about the 4th time he's gone off on Tim in months and I'd bet if his daughter's case was as cold as this one was, he'd do just about anything to get answers and justice! I commend TM, whatever it takes-it's not like he's destroyed anyone's character or morals you have to have them first place in order to destroy them ::MonkeyDevil2::
BBM ...  no kidding!  and I agree MK is jealous that TM has a bigger following than him, IMO

And more succesfull at finding the missing.
 ::MonkeyGavel::
Missed you today, glad to see you back!
thank you.  I was here this morning for a bit.  ::MonkeyAngel:: 

I saw your post, but missed catching you online.....I wuz at werk and just popping in and out between trades ::MonkeyRoll::
Oh, got it!  ::MonkeyKiss::  I am kinda hard to miss.  Can you tell me the reason Crystal gave for firing KP?  I saw elsewhere that she wasn't shy about saying why but I didn't read why it was. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 10:22:14 PM
Okay,  I'm all alone here again!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


You are not alone 04Bull!
ah, thanks Heart!  I was beginning to feel like the thread killer. LOL

What do you mean the wizard?  :)

Do you think that TM came up with that little Donna Mamma thing all by himself.

I don't.

Who do you think was behind obtaining the Voice analysis guy, and the hypnotist.  I don't think it was TM idea.

TM is just the  man in the middle, but I hope that he does not get caught up as NG stated.

I did hear it said after Misty's polygraph and hynosis that TM is carrying out things that his boss legally cannot and/or should not.  More or less a civilian can where a legal person cannot.
 
I thought that's what you meant, but I didn't know for sure.  I agree and I also think MN may have helped fund it too.  I think he got a little taste of the A's and he doesn't want to see a repeat with misty (ie...casey).  JMO

I sooooo agree, MN IMO got a bad taste in his mouth when it came to the A's and it seems this case is just as bad, family covering arse at the betrayal of a innocent child ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 10:24:54 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::
for impeding on an investigation, per the donkey's rear

IMO Mark Klass may be jealous of Tim.......I can't find any other reason for him to continually berate Tim Miller, I' sure his organization does a good job at whatever they do, but this is about the 4th time he's gone off on Tim in months and I'd bet if his daughter's case was as cold as this one was, he'd do just about anything to get answers and justice! I commend TM, whatever it takes-it's not like he's destroyed anyone's character or morals you have to have them first place in order to destroy them ::MonkeyDevil2::
BBM ...  no kidding!  and I agree MK is jealous that TM has a bigger following than him, IMO

And more succesfull at finding the missing.
 ::MonkeyGavel::
Missed you today, glad to see you back!
thank you.  I was here this morning for a bit.  ::MonkeyAngel:: 

I saw your post, but missed catching you online.....I wuz at werk and just popping in and out between trades ::MonkeyRoll::
Oh, got it!  ::MonkeyKiss::  I am kinda hard to miss.  Can you tell me the reason Crystal gave for firing KP?  I saw elsewhere that she wasn't shy about saying why but I didn't read why it was. 

No, but that arse in the thong is hard to miss!!! I actually forgot, but I can find out ::MonkeyWink:: and get back to you!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2009, 10:26:19 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 10:32:19 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 10:32:29 PM
Okay,  I'm all alone here again!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


You are not alone 04Bull!
ah, thanks Heart!  I was beginning to feel like the thread killer. LOL

What do you mean the wizard?  :)

Do you think that TM came up with that little Donna Mamma thing all by himself.

I don't.

Who do you think was behind obtaining the Voice analysis guy, and the hypnotist.  I don't think it was TM idea.

TM is just the  man in the middle, but I hope that he does not get caught up as NG stated.

I did hear it said after Misty's polygraph and hynosis that TM is carrying out things that his boss legally cannot and/or should not.  More or less a civilian can where a legal person cannot.
 
I thought that's what you meant, but I didn't know for sure.  I agree and I also think MN may have helped fund it too.  I think he got a little taste of the A's and he doesn't want to see a repeat with misty (ie...casey).  JMO
Totally agree. I had included the funding as well in my post to you at first but erased it  and phrased it differently.

While watching the second showing of NG, AH and MN appear somewhat not so straight forward with their responses to Nancy's questions.

Also AH screwed up when he told Nancy that Donna and Misty was the victims in the road rage incident.  Will Courtney Ballinger come out and defend herself now  ::MonkeyHaHa::

What is it that they say about weaving and deceiving    ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 10:35:24 PM
Mark Klass is saying they should arrest TM, that TM is affecting Mark's business too.

How many people has MK found, anyone know?
I'm starting to not like him much.  Why be the south end of a northbound donkey about it?  Seriously Mark
What could they arrest Tim Miller for?  ::MonkeyShocked::
for impeding on an investigation, per the donkey's rear

IMO Mark Klass may be jealous of Tim.......I can't find any other reason for him to continually berate Tim Miller, I' sure his organization does a good job at whatever they do, but this is about the 4th time he's gone off on Tim in months and I'd bet if his daughter's case was as cold as this one was, he'd do just about anything to get answers and justice! I commend TM, whatever it takes-it's not like he's destroyed anyone's character or morals you have to have them first place in order to destroy them ::MonkeyDevil2::
BBM ...  no kidding!  and I agree MK is jealous that TM has a bigger following than him, IMO

And more succesfull at finding the missing.
 ::MonkeyGavel::
Missed you today, glad to see you back!
thank you.  I was here this morning for a bit.  ::MonkeyAngel:: 

I saw your post, but missed catching you online.....I wuz at werk and just popping in and out between trades ::MonkeyRoll::
Oh, got it!  ::MonkeyKiss::  I am kinda hard to miss.  Can you tell me the reason Crystal gave for firing KP?  I saw elsewhere that she wasn't shy about saying why but I didn't read why it was. 

snipped


GLEN ST. MARY, Fla. -- When Action News showed up to Crystal Sheffield’s home in Baker County, we were welcomed into her mother’s living room. Inside is a makeshift memorial where a candle is burning. Crystal says that one candle is an “eternal candle”, and she says it will stay lit until Haleigh comes home.

Something not so eternal is the relationship between Crystal and her former lawyer Kim Picazio. Sheffield has decided to end her relationship with Picazio after many months of legal representation.

Sheffield says she’s tired of hearing rumors about the investigation being leaked out from inside sources. She believes maintaining a relationship with Picazio will do more to harm the case than help it.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2009, 10:39:20 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::

Would you trust him to hire a PI..... Instead of him going on tour he needs to get a job..
And I betcha Misty and him are still together...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on October 14, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 10:43:49 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::

Would you trust him to hire a PI..... Instead of him going on tour he needs to get a job..
And I betcha Misty and him are still together...


HE77 no, and I honestly don't think many would donate a dime to a man that still is standing by the "key" to the investigation, yes I think they are still together......remember when she returned to chitsuma, she wanted to be dropped off at a gas station  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Then we hear he is also in chitsuma. He never had steady employment before and I can't see him getting any now ::MonkeyViolin::

MOO~Misty is the key, but Ron is the lock


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: kalesdan on October 14, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::

Would you trust him to hire a PI..... Instead of him going on tour he needs to get a job..
And I betcha Misty and him are still together...


If they are still together he just wasted almost $500 filing for divorce.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2009, 10:46:10 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::

Would you trust him to hire a PI..... Instead of him going on tour he needs to get a job..
And I betcha Misty and him are still together...


HE77 no, and I honestly don't think many would donate a dime to a man that still is standing by the "key" to the investigation, yes I think they are still together......remember when she returned to chitsuma, she wanted to be dropped off at a gas station  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Then we hear he is also in chitsuma. He never had steady employment before and I can't see him getting any now ::MonkeyViolin::

MOO~Misty is the key, but Ron is the lock

You got that right.... ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 10:46:34 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.

Never seen it, but it looks like he's bowlegged the way he's walking ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 10:48:23 PM
IM:  I'm copying your post, that stack was huge!  Thank you so much for this info.  I was reading over at Simon's and if that's really KP posting, she is far from professional and I think Crystal made the right choice.



GLEN ST. MARY, Fla. -- When Action News showed up to Crystal Sheffield’s home in Baker County, we were welcomed into her mother’s living room. Inside is a makeshift memorial where a candle is burning. Crystal says that one candle is an “eternal candle”, and she says it will stay lit until Haleigh comes home.

Something not so eternal is the relationship between Crystal and her former lawyer Kim Picazio. Sheffield has decided to end her relationship with Picazio after many months of legal representation.

Sheffield says she’s tired of hearing rumors about the investigation being leaked out from inside sources. She believes maintaining a relationship with Picazio will do more to harm the case than help it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 10:53:07 PM


I saw your post, but missed catching you online.....I wuz at werk and just popping in and out between trades ::MonkeyRoll::
Oh, got it!  ::MonkeyKiss::  I am kinda hard to miss.  Can you tell me the reason Crystal gave for firing KP?  I saw elsewhere that she wasn't shy about saying why but I didn't read why it was. 
[/quote]

No, but that arse in the thong is hard to miss!!! I actually forgot, but I can find out ::MonkeyWink:: and get back to you!
[/quote]  you know you're jealous of my sexy big girl panties !  Don't hate ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 10:53:16 PM
IM:  I'm copying your post, that stack was huge!  Thank you so much for this info.  I was reading over at Simon's and if that's really KP posting, she is far from professional and I think Crystal made the right choice.



GLEN ST. MARY, Fla. -- When Action News showed up to Crystal Sheffield’s home in Baker County, we were welcomed into her mother’s living room. Inside is a makeshift memorial where a candle is burning. Crystal says that one candle is an “eternal candle”, and she says it will stay lit until Haleigh comes home.

Something not so eternal is the relationship between Crystal and her former lawyer Kim Picazio. Sheffield has decided to end her relationship with Picazio after many months of legal representation.

Sheffield says she’s tired of hearing rumors about the investigation being leaked out from inside sources. She believes maintaining a relationship with Picazio will do more to harm the case than help it.


Totally agree!!!!!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 10:54:45 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::

Would you trust him to hire a PI..... Instead of him going on tour he needs to get a job..
And I betcha Misty and him are still together...


HE77 no, and I honestly don't think many would donate a dime to a man that still is standing by the "key" to the investigation, yes I think they are still together......remember when she returned to chitsuma, she wanted to be dropped off at a gas station  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Then we hear he is also in chitsuma. He never had steady employment before and I can't see him getting any now ::MonkeyViolin::

MOO~Misty is the key, but Ron is the lock
and TN is the deadbolt  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2009, 10:58:19 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::

Would you trust him to hire a PI..... Instead of him going on tour he needs to get a job..
And I betcha Misty and him are still together...


HE77 no, and I honestly don't think many would donate a dime to a man that still is standing by the "key" to the investigation, yes I think they are still together......remember when she returned to chitsuma, she wanted to be dropped off at a gas station  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Then we hear he is also in chitsuma. He never had steady employment before and I can't see him getting any now ::MonkeyViolin::

MOO~Misty is the key, but Ron is the lock
and TN is the deadbolt  ::MonkeyJnBox::
::MonkeyBike::
OMG How True.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 14, 2009, 10:58:56 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::
   ::MonkeyLaugh:: Oh yeah, they are up to something, no doubt in my mind, and it involves money, imo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 14, 2009, 10:59:11 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::

Would you trust him to hire a PI..... Instead of him going on tour he needs to get a job..
And I betcha Misty and him are still together...


If they are still together he just wasted almost $500 filing for divorce.


Ron should have called me....I could have give him the number for a $99 divorce that was advertised in my local paper today.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 11:00:17 PM


I saw your post, but missed catching you online.....I wuz at werk and just popping in and out between trades ::MonkeyRoll::
Oh, got it!  ::MonkeyKiss::  I am kinda hard to miss.  Can you tell me the reason Crystal gave for firing KP?  I saw elsewhere that she wasn't shy about saying why but I didn't read why it was. 

No, but that arse in the thong is hard to miss!!! I actually forgot, but I can find out ::MonkeyWink:: and get back to you!
[/quote]  you know you're jealous of my sexy big girl panties !  Don't hate ::MonkeyDevil::
[/quote] ::MonkeyTongue::  You're right, I so want a pair of those, but will leave you to be the one to "bring sexy back" ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 11:01:28 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I don't know about the Trucking Guy, but RC walks as if those feet are show nuff baaaaaaaaaaad!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 14, 2009, 11:03:49 PM
Do we know where Lisa Croslin was the night Haleigh went missing?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2009, 11:04:43 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I don't know about the Trucking Guy, but RC walks as if those feet are show nuff baaaaaaaaaaad!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


 baahhhhhhahhh::MonkeyWeight::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 11:06:02 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I don't know about the Trucking Guy, but RC walks as if those feet are show nuff baaaaaaaaaaad!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
I think he walks like he crapped his pants and is trying not to squish it when he walks, or maybe he's just bowlegged?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 14, 2009, 11:07:25 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I don't know about the Trucking Guy, but RC walks as if those feet are show nuff baaaaaaaaaaad!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
I think he walks like he crapped his pants and is trying not to squish it when he walks, or maybe he's just bowlegged?

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 11:08:03 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::

Would you trust him to hire a PI..... Instead of him going on tour he needs to get a job..
And I betcha Misty and him are still together...


HE77 no, and I honestly don't think many would donate a dime to a man that still is standing by the "key" to the investigation, yes I think they are still together......remember when she returned to chitsuma, she wanted to be dropped off at a gas station  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Then we hear he is also in chitsuma. He never had steady employment before and I can't see him getting any now ::MonkeyViolin::

MOO~Misty is the key, but Ron is the lock
and TN is the deadbolt  ::MonkeyJnBox::


GMTA~I swear I was trying to find a metaphor for her involvement, but was too d@mn lazy to think any more ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2009, 11:08:45 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I don't know about the Trucking Guy, but RC walks as if those feet are show nuff baaaaaaaaaaad!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
I think he walks like he crapped his pants and is trying not to squish it when he walks, or maybe he's just bowlegged?

Maybe his thong is tooo tight... ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 14, 2009, 11:10:09 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I don't know about the Trucking Guy, but RC walks as if those feet are show nuff baaaaaaaaaaad!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
I think he walks like he crapped his pants and is trying not to squish it when he walks, or maybe he's just bowlegged?
May be, but he does not appear to be bowlegged in the pics that Ger took of him at the courthouse after the hearing for counseling for Butterbean.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 11:10:21 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I don't know about the Trucking Guy, but RC walks as if those feet are show nuff baaaaaaaaaaad!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
I think he walks like he crapped his pants and is trying not to squish it when he walks, or maybe he's just bowlegged?
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: EXACTLY........that is exactly what it looks like, you nailed it O4B-looks like something you'd see in the People of Walmart site.............BRB, have to get a rag to wipe the tea of my laptop now


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 11:12:04 PM
Jersey:   ::MonkeyLaugh::  (all this talk about ron's drawers is making me nauseated)  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

IM:  I was trying to think of one for GGSykes too.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 11:14:29 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I don't know about the Trucking Guy, but RC walks as if those feet are show nuff baaaaaaaaaaad!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
I think he walks like he crapped his pants and is trying not to squish it when he walks, or maybe he's just bowlegged?
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: EXACTLY........that is exactly what it looks like, you nailed it O4B-looks like something you'd see in the People of Walmart site.............BRB, have to get a rag to wipe the tea of my laptop now
okay, so you're getting my "drift"  ::MonkeyLaugh::
no, but seriously, don't you think it reminds you of a kid who has pooped in their diaper and they start doin' that same kind of walk he does?  that's what made me think of it.  bwahahaha


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 11:20:25 PM
On NG, they show Ron walking. He is wearin thos camo shorts.
Does he remind anyone of the Keep on Truckin' Guy ( cartoon ) from like the sixties ?
I am too young to know of the sixties, but I heard of it.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: I don't know about the Trucking Guy, but RC walks as if those feet are show nuff baaaaaaaaaaad!   ::MonkeyLaugh::
I think he walks like he crapped his pants and is trying not to squish it when he walks, or maybe he's just bowlegged?
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: EXACTLY........that is exactly what it looks like, you nailed it O4B-looks like something you'd see in the People of Walmart site.............BRB, have to get a rag to wipe the tea of my laptop now
my DH showed me that site the other day!  I was ashamed to say I saw some WT from my home state.  Speakin' of home... here's a cutie from Florida.......
(http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/327.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2009, 11:22:06 PM
Jersey:   ::MonkeyLaugh::  (all this talk about ron's drawers is making me nauseated)  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

IM:  I was trying to think of one for GGSykes too.  ::MonkeyWink::

GGRanny Thongs...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/emb_-granny-panties_0.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 11:25:33 PM
Jersey:   ::MonkeyLaugh::  (all this talk about ron's drawers is making me nauseated)  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

IM:  I was trying to think of one for GGSykes too.  ::MonkeyWink::

GGRanny Thongs...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/emb_-granny-panties_0.jpg)

You guys are cracking me up tonight ::MonkeyJnBox::

Maybe GGMS is the vault that holds the key, lock and deadbolt (in her granny panties) ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2009, 11:26:39 PM
Jersey:   ::MonkeyLaugh::  (all this talk about ron's drawers is making me nauseated)  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

IM:  I was trying to think of one for GGSykes too.  ::MonkeyWink::

GGRanny Thongs...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/emb_-granny-panties_0.jpg)

You guys are cracking me up tonight ::MonkeyJnBox::

Maybe GGMS is the vault that holds the key, lock and deadbolt (in her granny panties) ::MonkeyDevil2::

OMG..... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 14, 2009, 11:26:44 PM
Jersey:   ::MonkeyLaugh::  (all this talk about ron's drawers is making me nauseated)  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

IM:  I was trying to think of one for GGSykes too.  ::MonkeyWink::

GGRanny Thongs...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/emb_-granny-panties_0.jpg)
Jersey, you've been in my lingerie drawer?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2009, 11:28:35 PM
Jersey:   ::MonkeyLaugh::  (all this talk about ron's drawers is making me nauseated)  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

IM:  I was trying to think of one for GGSykes too.  ::MonkeyWink::

GGRanny Thongs...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/emb_-granny-panties_0.jpg)
Jersey, you've been in my lingerie drawer?

LMAO....  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 14, 2009, 11:36:51 PM
Night Monkeys and thanks for the levity, I think we all need it every now and then to break the incredible sadness of this case........hugs ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2009, 11:37:40 PM
Night Monkeys and thanks for the levity, I think we all need it every now and then to break the incredible sadness of this case........hugs ::MonkeyBike::

 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 15, 2009, 12:08:19 AM
nite! I'm right "behind" ya.  ::MonkeyGavel::

I'm here all week, folks...

cya's tomorrow


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 15, 2009, 12:08:54 AM
nite! I'm right "behind" ya.  ::MonkeyGavel::

I'm here all week, folks...

cya's tomorrow

Good Night Bull...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 12:10:21 AM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/10/06/Ron-Haleigh-Misty-Divorce-T1.jpg)


NANCY GRACE Transcript 10-14-09
Croslin and Cummings File for Divorce
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/14/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 12:11:46 AM
nite! I'm right "behind" ya.  ::MonkeyGavel::

I'm here all week, folks...

cya's tomorrow
Good night bull!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 12:12:42 AM
And hey there JG!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 15, 2009, 12:14:00 AM
And hey there JG!

Glad to see ya Heart...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 15, 2009, 12:24:15 AM
Good Night Sweet Monkey's

God Bless Haleigh... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 15, 2009, 12:26:54 AM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/haleighcummings7777777-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 15, 2009, 05:18:59 AM
Just Thinking Out Loud... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ron and Misty are up to something...

Ron going on tour to raise money for a private investigator to do what??
I would'nt trust Ron at this point who he would hire especially him consistantly defending Misty. Ron knows more .. He is a sneak..Playing both sides will catch up to him..
I wonder what he promised Misty this time to keep her mouth shut.. Money?
He is up to no good...

He could of got the answers 8 and half months ago from his teenager/babysister/wife/soon to be ex unless he knows the answers where Haleigh is and what happened.. JMO...

ITA~I have always thought she had something on him, nothing else makes sense especially texting Misty about Donna after he filed for divorce ::MonkeyConfused:: now if they are in it together I can totally see it, and sadly that's the way I do see it and always have

Also, what kind of tour would he be doing????? Speaking engagements, heck his entire vocalulary consist mainly of "I don't know Mz Nancy", and "I don't know I wuz at werk", well that and expletives ::MonkeyJnBox::
   ::MonkeyLaugh:: Oh yeah, they are up to something, no doubt in my mind, and it involves money, imo.

NRCG,

 FAB and Lit' beast are smarter that the detectives?   The Adage, "you fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time" comes to my mind.

I found the DOT traffic camera's for the road rage incident...now... were DOT camera's set-up on his route during his compute?
We wouldn't be able to see the footage, I am curious, to see if any travel could have been recorded. I would think all video from the camera's may be kept for the highways. Now are there highways in Satsuma? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 15, 2009, 06:48:08 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=146706&catid=3
Lisa Croslin Now Jailed in Putnam County
 Gary Detman  Patricia Jimenez     Created: 10/15/2009 4:57:16 AM    Updated: 10/15/2009 5:50:19 AM

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- The mother of the woman who put Haleigh to bed before she disappeared is behind bars in Putnam County.

The sheriff's office arrested 40-year-old Lisa Carmen Croslin on two felonies and a misdemeanor Wednesday afternoon.

According to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office web site, Croslin faces charges of fraud utter false instrument, forgery of alter public record certificate, and larceny petit theft.

The arrest stems from warrants that led to her arrest in Nashville last month.

Croslin is the mother of Misty Croslin-Cummings, the teenaged stepmother of Haleigh Cummings.

The 5-year-old girl vanished on the night of February 9 at her home in Satsuma. Misty Croslin-Cummings said she put Haleigh to bed.

Call Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-TIPS if you have any information to help investigators.

There is a $35,000 reward for Haleigh's safe return.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 08:13:45 AM
snipped:


The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

Sources close to the investigation tell me a local Bald Truth reader anonymously called the Putnam County abuse hotline to alert child welfare officials to our story; officials called Miller, verified the accuracy of our account, then opened a new investigation into Cummings’ fitness as a father. ::MonkeyDance::
http://ow.ly/uwZ0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 08:21:28 AM
ART HARRIS: Tim Miller agreed to fill out a sworn statement for DCF about what he saw regarding Ron’s threat/ http://ow.ly/uwZ0about 2 hours ago from HootSuite
http://twitter.com/HaleighNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 08:23:01 AM
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings Dad Probed by Child Welfare

The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

more...
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dad-probed-by-child-welfare/#more-3238


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: theboyzmom on October 15, 2009, 08:45:10 AM
Jersey:   ::MonkeyLaugh::  (all this talk about ron's drawers is making me nauseated)  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

IM:  I was trying to think of one for GGSykes too.  ::MonkeyWink::

GGRanny Thongs...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/emb_-granny-panties_0.jpg)

Alright, I just got up, popped open a diet coke and now have to spend the morning cleaning the laptop and getting a new soda.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 09:11:01 AM
#  lingo123 Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 4:51 am

Art, probably everyone else will point this out also, but just FYI: Ronald Junior (aka Butterbean) is FOUR years old, not three. He turned four shortly after HaLeigh disappeared.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dad-probed-by-child-welfare/#comment-40343




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Blonde on October 15, 2009, 09:13:23 AM
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings Dad Probed by Child Welfare

The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

more...
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dad-probed-by-child-welfare/#more-3238


OMG   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 09:37:13 AM
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings Dad Probed by Child Welfare

The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

more...
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-haleigh-cummings-dad-probed-by-child-welfare/#more-3238


OMG   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Originally Posted by camcneishg
ok, listen to me here....I just got off the phone with DCF...they called me, I did not call them.....the FIRST they heard about this gun situation was yesterday after my call into LE.....they are calling Tim NOW.....unreal, huh??? looks like LE dropped the ball when TM told them about this....it should have been reported right away...and
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6215.msg982425#msg982425


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 09:41:53 AM
@jobellc Tip from source: Investigators are looking for Jeremiah Reagan? Questions about timelines? I am checking on this tip.about 2 hours ago from web in reply to jobellc
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 09:49:01 AM
snipped:


The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

Sources close to the investigation tell me a local Bald Truth reader anonymously called the Putnam County abuse hotline to alert child welfare officials to our story; officials called Miller, verified the accuracy of our account, then opened a new investigation into Cummings’ fitness as a father. ::MonkeyDance::
http://ow.ly/uwZ0
Great, hope something is done  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 09:50:04 AM
@jobellc Tip from source: Investigators are looking for Jeremiah Reagan? Questions about timelines? I am checking on this tip.about 2 hours ago from web in reply to jobellc
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM
  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 15, 2009, 09:50:38 AM
Thanks,Heart.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 10:03:26 AM
Thanks,Heart.   ::MonkeyCool::
Top of the morning to ya Trim!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 10:06:25 AM
I hope that TM had a recorder because I firmly believe RC threatened that. How convenient that RC does not "RECALL" saying that...hmmmmmm.
He doesn't recall because if Tim did record it he doesn't want to get caught lying... hence he said it and was worried about a possible recording... i take this statement as a full admission to saying it... he came clean with his lawyer about it hence the open ended escape from a possible recording....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 10:07:29 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Whisperer! You really never know a mam until you spend physical time with them. You see their interactions with the family. Those things mean far more that some silly kid things we all did as teens and early 20s. I invite you to come here as a worker.. Ron would never know if you were hired for a day laborer or what, however I promise he'd share his lunch and whatever else you needed, He'd help show you the things he knows that you may not. And when you see how those kids love him that would be the iciing on the cake. He;s not perfect, but he turned into a fine young man who accepts responsibility and this hand he has been dealt. This hand has pushed him way back. I'll continue to support him and help in anyway. You see I know him personally as a worker, neighbor and most importantly a friend.
  ::MonkeyEek::  I want to know how much money player is getting for saying all this crap, that is my question for the day


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 15, 2009, 10:10:48 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

According to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office web site, Croslin faces charges of fraud utter false instrument, forgery of alter public record certificate, and larceny petit theft.

Would this forgery of alter public record certificate be the title to the truck that was sold?

And can someone remind me who Jeremiah R. is?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 10:15:16 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Whisperer! You really never know a mam until you spend physical time with them. You see their interactions with the family. Those things mean far more that some silly kid things we all did as teens and early 20s. I invite you to come here as a worker.. Ron would never know if you were hired for a day laborer or what, however I promise he'd share his lunch and whatever else you needed, He'd help show you the things he knows that you may not. And when you see how those kids love him that would be the iciing on the cake. He;s not perfect, but he turned into a fine young man who accepts responsibility and this hand he has been dealt. This hand has pushed him way back. I'll continue to support him and help in anyway. You see I know him personally as a worker, neighbor and most importantly a friend.
  ::MonkeyEek::  I want to know how much money player is getting for saying all this crap, that is my question for the day
Hello and A happy morning to all. ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

I had to put on my boots to wade thru that load of crap, sounds more like RC is the real  Player...Maybe thats Ronald posting about himself....as always nothing surprises me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 10:21:06 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Whisperer! You really never know a mam until you spend physical time with them. You see their interactions with the family. Those things mean far more that some silly kid things we all did as teens and early 20s. I invite you to come here as a worker.. Ron would never know if you were hired for a day laborer or what, however I promise he'd share his lunch and whatever else you needed, He'd help show you the things he knows that you may not. And when you see how those kids love him that would be the iciing on the cake. He;s not perfect, but he turned into a fine young man who accepts responsibility and this hand he has been dealt. This hand has pushed him way back. I'll continue to support him and help in anyway. You see I know him personally as a worker, neighbor and most importantly a friend.
  ::MonkeyEek::  I want to know how much money player is getting for saying all this crap, that is my question for the day
Hello and A happy morning to all. ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

I had to put on my boots to wade thru that load of crap, sounds more like RC is the real  Player...Maybe thats Ronald posting about himself....as always nothing surprises me.

A bottle of "Jack"probably gets a lot of"Yack"  I get the impression that Player likes his booze. ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: klaasend on October 15, 2009, 10:25:20 AM
May have already been posted:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=146706&catid=3

(http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/091015050221_101509_croslin_lisa_putnam.jpg)

Lisa Croslin Now Jailed in Putnam County
 Gary Detman  Patricia Jimenez     4 hrs ago

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- The mother of the woman who put Haleigh to bed before she disappeared is behind bars in Putnam County.

The sheriff's office arrested 40-year-old Lisa Carmen Croslin on two felonies and a misdemeanor Wednesday afternoon.

According to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office web site, Croslin faces charges of fraud utter false instrument, forgery of alter public record certificate, and larceny petit theft.

The arrest stems from warrants that led to her arrest in Nashville last month.

Croslin is the mother of Misty Croslin-Cummings, the teenaged stepmother of Haleigh Cummings.

The 5-year-old girl vanished on the night of February 9 at her home in Satsuma. Misty Croslin-Cummings said she put Haleigh to bed.

Call Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-TIPS if you have any information to help investigators.

There is a $35,000 reward for Haleigh's safe return.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 10:28:23 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

According to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office web site, Croslin faces charges of fraud utter false instrument, forgery of alter public record certificate, and larceny petit theft.

Would this forgery of alter public record certificate be the title to the truck that was sold?

And can someone remind me who Jeremiah R. is?
Good Morning, it could be about the title to the truck, I'm thinking it was stealing things from that elderly legally blind man. Jeremiah R, I think, but not sure was working with Kim P at the Haleighbug center, not sure  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 10:29:15 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Whisperer! You really never know a mam until you spend physical time with them. You see their interactions with the family. Those things mean far more that some silly kid things we all did as teens and early 20s. I invite you to come here as a worker.. Ron would never know if you were hired for a day laborer or what, however I promise he'd share his lunch and whatever else you needed, He'd help show you the things he knows that you may not. And when you see how those kids love him that would be the iciing on the cake. He;s not perfect, but he turned into a fine young man who accepts responsibility and this hand he has been dealt. This hand has pushed him way back. I'll continue to support him and help in anyway. You see I know him personally as a worker, neighbor and most importantly a friend.
  ::MonkeyEek::  I want to know how much money player is getting for saying all this crap, that is my question for the day
Hello and A happy morning to all. ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

I had to put on my boots to wade thru that load of crap, sounds more like RC is the real  Player...Maybe thats Ronald posting about himself....as always nothing surprises me.

A bottle of "Jack"probably gets a lot of"Yack"  I get the impression that Player likes his booze. ::MonkeyBike::
  ::MonkeyCool::  Here's another gem.          Originally Posted by player 
No Ron will not be staying here. He could if he wanted, however he will not use his friends, The gun incident was contrived by TM and there is no basis for that story. I am a strict constitutionalist and I firmly believe in our 2nd ammendment. From a folding stock semi-auto hunting type weapon to a Military fullautomatic machinegun escapes me. There is no such thing as a civilian assault rifle allowed to be owned by a US Citizen other than registered collectors. No Ron is not staying with me right now. He is temporarily scheduled to work here Friday.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 10:34:03 AM
I hope that TM had a recorder because I firmly believe RC threatened that. How convenient that RC does not "RECALL" saying that...hmmmmmm.
He doesn't recall because if Tim did record it he doesn't want to get caught lying... hence he said it and was worried about a possible recording... i take this statement as a full admission to saying it... he came clean with his lawyer about it hence the open ended escape from a possible recording....

 ::MonkeyDevil2::  Exactly~I never even considered that as the reason he was lying...........such a smart monkey ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 10:41:28 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Whisperer! You really never know a mam until you spend physical time with them. You see their interactions with the family. Those things mean far more that some silly kid things we all did as teens and early 20s. I invite you to come here as a worker.. Ron would never know if you were hired for a day laborer or what, however I promise he'd share his lunch and whatever else you needed, He'd help show you the things he knows that you may not. And when you see how those kids love him that would be the iciing on the cake. He;s not perfect, but he turned into a fine young man who accepts responsibility and this hand he has been dealt. This hand has pushed him way back. I'll continue to support him and help in anyway. You see I know him personally as a worker, neighbor and most importantly a friend.
  ::MonkeyEek::  I want to know how much money player is getting for saying all this crap, that is my question for the day
Hello and A happy morning to all. ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

I had to put on my boots to wade thru that load of crap, sounds more like RC is the real  Player...Maybe thats Ronald posting about himself....as always nothing surprises me.

A bottle of "Jack"probably gets a lot of"Yack"  I get the impression that Player likes his booze. ::MonkeyBike::
  ::MonkeyCool::  Here's another gem.          Originally Posted by player 
No Ron will not be staying here. He could if he wanted, however he will not use his friends, The gun incident was contrived by TM and there is no basis for that story. I am a strict constitutionalist and I firmly believe in our 2nd ammendment. From a folding stock semi-auto hunting type weapon to a Military fullautomatic machinegun escapes me. There is no such thing as a civilian assault rifle allowed to be owned by a US Citizen other than registered collectors. No Ron is not staying with me right now. He is temporarily scheduled to work here Friday.   ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyTongue::  First of all, no one stated it was a fully automatic machine gun, any automatic anyhing is illegal, but assualt rifles are not as long as they are semi automatic, I should know we have one........not mine technically, my dad bought it recently as it came with the truck he bought, and my neighbor's bought both of their grown sons one each ::MonkeyNoNo::

Looks like player has been  :smt030


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 10:45:01 AM
 IM, oh yeah  :smt030 :2boohoo:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 10:45:08 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

According to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office web site, Croslin faces charges of fraud utter false instrument, forgery of alter public record certificate, and larceny petit theft.

Would this forgery of alter public record certificate be the title to the truck that was sold?

And can someone remind me who Jeremiah R. is?
Good Morning, it could be about the title to the truck, I'm thinking it was stealing things from that elderly legally blind man. Jeremiah R, I think, but not sure was working with Kim P at the Haleighbug center, not sure  ::MonkeyConfused::

Jeremiah Regan is a family friend and has been a big help in spearheading the project. He said someone will always be at the headquarters, 24 hours a day.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133906&catid=3

Jeremiah Regan, administrator for the center, was contacted and asked about
the facility, its purpose, incoming donations, book-keeping, and how the
money is being used. "Please do not contact me any further via email, phone
or any other way. Any further attempts to contact me will be viewed as
harassment," he said.

Ragan's response to a request about the center's funds will not come as huge
shock to many. Suspicion and mystery has always surrounded the center from
the beginning, always providing vague explanations to the media about its
purpose and how the donations were being used. At one point Regan referred
to the center as Crystal Sheffield's "career path" which was alarming to
many.

more...

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.true-crime/2009-06/msg00723.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 15, 2009, 10:45:44 AM
snipped:


The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

Sources close to the investigation tell me a local Bald Truth reader anonymously called the Putnam County abuse hotline to alert child welfare officials to our story; officials called Miller, verified the accuracy of our account, then opened a new investigation into Cummings’ fitness as a father. ::MonkeyDance::
http://ow.ly/uwZ0

Took em long enough, YAY for Butterbean!!!!!   ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 15, 2009, 10:47:10 AM
This Player that is talking about coming to work with him and Ron ....duh.....Ron AIN'T werking . Unless it is running drugs or whitelightening.
 
Was Lisa Croslin in Satsuma the night Haleigh went missing? For the life of me I can't remember.

NRCG thanks for the answers.







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 10:47:18 AM
 Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 10:48:00 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Whisperer! You really never know a mam until you spend physical time with them. You see their interactions with the family. Those things mean far more that some silly kid things we all did as teens and early 20s. I invite you to come here as a worker.. Ron would never know if you were hired for a day laborer or what, however I promise he'd share his lunch and whatever else you needed, He'd help show you the things he knows that you may not. And when you see how those kids love him that would be the iciing on the cake. He;s not perfect, but he turned into a fine young man who accepts responsibility and this hand he has been dealt. This hand has pushed him way back. I'll continue to support him and help in anyway. You see I know him personally as a worker, neighbor and most importantly a friend.
  ::MonkeyEek::  I want to know how much money player is getting for saying all this crap, that is my question for the day
Hello and A happy morning to all. ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

I had to put on my boots to wade thru that load of crap, sounds more like RC is the real  Player...Maybe thats Ronald posting about himself....as always nothing surprises me.

A bottle of "Jack"probably gets a lot of"Yack"  I get the impression that Player likes his booze. ::MonkeyBike::
  ::MonkeyCool::  Here's another gem.          Originally Posted by player 
No Ron will not be staying here. He could if he wanted, however he will not use his friends, The gun incident was contrived by TM and there is no basis for that story. I am a strict constitutionalist and I firmly believe in our 2nd ammendment. From a folding stock semi-auto hunting type weapon to a Military fullautomatic machinegun escapes me. There is no such thing as a civilian assault rifle allowed to be owned by a US Citizen other than registered collectors. No Ron is not staying with me right now. He is temporarily scheduled to work here Friday.   ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyTongue::  First of all, no one stated it was a fully automatic machine gun, any automatic anyhing is illegal, but assualt rifles are not as long as they are semi automatic, I should know we have one........not mine technically, my dad bought it recently as it came with the truck he bought, and my neighbor's bought both of their grown sons one each ::MonkeyNoNo::

Looks like player has been  :smt030

LOL What kind of job is Ron going to do clean up the crap Player is unloading. This guy sounds mentally unstable...would not want him for a friend...birds of a feather flock together.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 15, 2009, 10:48:31 AM
Originally Posted by player 
Whisperer! You really never know a mam until you spend physical time with them. You see their interactions with the family. Those things mean far more that some silly kid things we all did as teens and early 20s. I invite you to come here as a worker.. Ron would never know if you were hired for a day laborer or what, however I promise he'd share his lunch and whatever else you needed, He'd help show you the things he knows that you may not. And when you see how those kids love him that would be the iciing on the cake. He;s not perfect, but he turned into a fine young man who accepts responsibility and this hand he has been dealt. This hand has pushed him way back. I'll continue to support him and help in anyway. You see I know him personally as a worker, neighbor and most importantly a friend.
  ::MonkeyEek::  I want to know how much money player is getting for saying all this crap, that is my question for the day
Hello and A happy morning to all. ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

I had to put on my boots to wade thru that load of crap, sounds more like RC is the real  Player...Maybe thats Ronald posting about himself....as always nothing surprises me.

A bottle of "Jack"probably gets a lot of"Yack"  I get the impression that Player likes his booze. ::MonkeyBike::
  ::MonkeyCool::  Here's another gem.          Originally Posted by player 
No Ron will not be staying here. He could if he wanted, however he will not use his friends, The gun incident was contrived by TM and there is no basis for that story. I am a strict constitutionalist and I firmly believe in our 2nd ammendment. From a folding stock semi-auto hunting type weapon to a Military fullautomatic machinegun escapes me. There is no such thing as a civilian assault rifle allowed to be owned by a US Citizen other than registered collectors. No Ron is not staying with me right now. He is temporarily scheduled to work here Friday.   ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyTongue::  First of all, no one stated it was a fully automatic machine gun, any automatic anyhing is illegal, but assualt rifles are not as long as they are semi automatic, I should know we have one........not mine technically, my dad bought it recently as it came with the truck he bought, and my neighbor's bought both of their grown sons one each ::MonkeyNoNo::

Looks like player has been  :smt030

Thas awesome, i hope my next new vehicle comes with one!!  ::MonkeyWink::  i need a 270...and a GMC Acadia...   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 11:02:14 AM
IM, oh yeah  :smt030 :2boohoo:
::MonkeyDevil::

Actually this case makes me want to  :smt030  and :smt070


DARLA~I'm not sure about where Lisa Croslin was that night.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 15, 2009, 11:03:51 AM
@jobellc Tip from source: Investigators are looking for Jeremiah Reagan? Questions about timelines? I am checking on this tip.about 2 hours ago from web in reply to jobellc
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

Hi Heart,

O.T.

Palaka County Dot traffic camera's, where was the area R worked, do you know please?  I am just browsering. Thank-you.

http://www.fl511.com/Cameras.aspx



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 11:11:13 AM
snipped:


The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

Sources close to the investigation tell me a local Bald Truth reader anonymously called the Putnam County abuse hotline to alert child welfare officials to our story; officials called Miller, verified the accuracy of our account, then opened a new investigation into Cummings’ fitness as a father. ::MonkeyDance::
http://ow.ly/uwZ0

Thanks IM, and others, for posting updates! 

Am glad to see that at least there will be an investigation, and that they are asking for a sworn statement from Tim.  They may be asking for a sworn statement from AH as well, as being what he heard from Tim.  Sworn statements carriy so much more weight.  Sounds as if this is the first that DCF has heard of this.  Could be one reason they haven't acted on Jr's behalf until now. 

We all realize how easy it would have been for Ron to simply have unloaded the gun, locked it up, storing the ammo seperately, making it all "appear" fine and dandy, legal, responsible, etc.  I kinda doubt Ron did that himself after having a 'V-8 moment' tho.  I can imagine that his mama or gma, on reading the forums and other sites, went like lightening over there and locked it all up themselves.   Then Ron could sit back and wait for any fallout from what Tim said, and simply claim as he seems to have, 'I dunno, I don't remember doing/saying that'.  As another monkey said yesterday, 'how convenient' for him.  Just my opinion tho. 

The sworn statement from Tim will likely knock that plan all to h3ll and back.   ::MonkeyTongue::

However, this whole thing does concern me a bit still.  Because now I'm looking at the local LE.  Tim's has already said that he alerted LE after this happened.  The legal DUTY of LE was to have reported it at once to DCF.  Whether LE believed it happened or not, and whether they wanted to report or not.  And with DCF saying the report from the anon caller re AH's article was the first they've heard of it.........  then........ either DCF is lying to cover their @sses, or LE is gonna be in some major trouble!!  And I kind of doubt that LE would take the heat if DCF is lying, nope.  Am thinking if LE actually did report what Tim said, then they likely won't let DCF say they didn't. 

Am thinking that not only will there be an investigation on Jr's behalf, but also that heads are gonna roll over this one.  Either DCF's or LE's.  Heh.  Ought to be an interesting thing to watch.   ::MonkeyTongue::

All in my opinion. 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 11:14:13 AM
mymonkey, thanks for answering I was wondering what Ron was going to do for player  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 11:14:14 AM
snipped:


The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

Sources close to the investigation tell me a local Bald Truth reader anonymously called the Putnam County abuse hotline to alert child welfare officials to our story; officials called Miller, verified the accuracy of our account, then opened a new investigation into Cummings’ fitness as a father. ::MonkeyDance::
http://ow.ly/uwZ0

Thanks IM, and others, for posting updates! 

Am glad to see that at least there will be an investigation, and that they are asking for a sworn statement from Tim.  They may be asking for a sworn statement from AH as well, as being what he heard from Tim.  Sworn statements carriy so much more weight.  Sounds as if this is the first that DCF has heard of this.  Could be one reason they haven't acted on Jr's behalf until now. 

We all realize how easy it would have been for Ron to simply have unloaded the gun, locked it up, storing the ammo seperately, making it all "appear" fine and dandy, legal, responsible, etc.  I kinda doubt Ron did that himself after having a 'V-8 moment' tho.  I can imagine that his mama or gma, on reading the forums and other sites, went like lightening over there and locked it all up themselves.   Then Ron could sit back and wait for any fallout from what Tim said, and simply claim as he seems to have, 'I dunno, I don't remember doing/saying that'.  As another monkey said yesterday, 'how convenient' for him.  Just my opinion tho. 

The sworn statement from Tim will likely knock that plan all to h3ll and back.   ::MonkeyTongue::

However, this whole thing does concern me a bit still.  Because now I'm looking at the local LE.  Tim's has already said that he alerted LE after this happened.  The legal DUTY of LE was to have reported it at once to DCF.  Whether LE believed it happened or not, and whether they wanted to report or not.  And with DCF saying the report from the anon caller re AH's article was the first they've heard of it.........  then........ either DCF is lying to cover their @sses, or LE is gonna be in some major trouble!!  And I kind of doubt that LE would take the heat if DCF is lying, nope.  Am thinking if LE actually did report what Tim said, then they likely won't let DCF say they didn't. 

Am thinking that not only will there be an investigation on Jr's behalf, but also that heads are gonna roll over this one.  Either DCF's or LE's.  Heh.  Ought to be an interesting thing to watch.   ::MonkeyTongue::

All in my opinion. 



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Very well put Wykes!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 11:14:28 AM
@jobellc Tip from source: Investigators are looking for Jeremiah Reagan? Questions about timelines? I am checking on this tip.about 2 hours ago from web in reply to jobellc
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

Hi Heart,

O.T.

Palaka County Dot traffic camera's, where was the area R worked, do you know please?  I am just browsering. Thank-you.

http://www.fl511.com/Cameras.aspx



PDM Bridge LLC
www.pdmbridge.com

229 Comfort Rd
Palatka, FL 32177


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 11:16:06 AM
 Good post Wyks, and I guess I'm really wondering how crooked local LE really is, I was trying to think they were just not the brightest, but I think it is worse than that. I will bet that nothing will come of the DCF investigation  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 11:16:57 AM
mymonkey, thanks for answering I was wondering what Ron was going to do for player  ::MonkeyDevil::

Your welcome NRCG.....Hope your doing well today ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 11:20:44 AM
This Player that is talking about coming to work with him and Ron ....duh.....Ron AIN'T werking . Unless it is running drugs or whitelightening.
 
Was Lisa Croslin in Satsuma the night Haleigh went missing? For the life of me I can't remember.

NRCG thanks for the answers.






  ::MonkeyCool:: Can't imagine any heavy labor going on  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 11:21:15 AM
mymonkey, thanks for answering I was wondering what Ron was going to do for player  ::MonkeyDevil::

Your welcome NRCG.....Hope your doing well today ::MonkeyKiss::
Thank-you, I hope you are also  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 15, 2009, 11:23:18 AM
IM, oh yeah  :smt030 :2boohoo:
::MonkeyDevil::

Actually this case makes me want to  :smt030  and :smt070


DARLA~I'm not sure about where Lisa Croslin was that night.......
Good Morning guys,   wasnt Lisa suppose to be at the hospital with Hank that night.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 11:30:04 AM
Thanks Mymonkey and NoRose! 

It sure seems that DCF haven't jumped on the ball with other cases, and yet with the whole world watching them, at this point one would think they'd cross every t and dot every i.  Ya know? 

And yeah, the local LE.. we've heard bits here and there.. Wouldn't be the first time if it's found that they are crooked, and what not.  Plenty of those across America, sadly.  Yet it would explain why Haleigh's case has gone no where.  Just as with Caylee's case, we sit back and wait for SOME action on the part of LE and when nothing comes as expected, we're like WTF? 

If there is corruption in the local LE and/or DCF, this may blow things sky high.  Or not. 

I just wish there could also be an independent investigation into both the local LE and DCF.  Jr removed to an entirely different state, and Haleigh's case solved.






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: jen3560 on October 15, 2009, 11:54:00 AM
Thanks Mymonkey and NoRose! 

It sure seems that DCF haven't jumped on the ball with other cases, and yet with the whole world watching them, at this point one would think they'd cross every t and dot every i.  Ya know? 

And yeah, the local LE.. we've heard bits here and there.. Wouldn't be the first time if it's found that they are crooked, and what not.  Plenty of those across America, sadly.  Yet it would explain why Haleigh's case has gone no where.  Just as with Caylee's case, we sit back and wait for SOME action on the part of LE and when nothing comes as expected, we're like WTF? 

If there is corruption in the local LE and/or DCF, this may blow things sky high.  Or not. 

I just wish there could also be an independent investigation into both the local LE and DCF.  Jr removed to an entirely different state, and Haleigh's case solved.






That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 11:58:36 AM
Thanks Mymonkey and NoRose! 

It sure seems that DCF haven't jumped on the ball with other cases, and yet with the whole world watching them, at this point one would think they'd cross every t and dot every i.  Ya know? 

And yeah, the local LE.. we've heard bits here and there.. Wouldn't be the first time if it's found that they are crooked, and what not.  Plenty of those across America, sadly.  Yet it would explain why Haleigh's case has gone no where.  Just as with Caylee's case, we sit back and wait for SOME action on the part of LE and when nothing comes as expected, we're like WTF? 

If there is corruption in the local LE and/or DCF, this may blow things sky high.  Or not. 

I just wish there could also be an independent investigation into both the local LE and DCF.  Jr removed to an entirely different state, and Haleigh's case solved.






That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

I do not know what county but I have often wondered if TN was has been under the covers with some of the Putman County folks. jmo ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 12:00:29 PM
I hope that TM had a recorder because I firmly believe RC threatened that. How convenient that RC does not "RECALL" saying that...hmmmmmm.
He doesn't recall because if Tim did record it he doesn't want to get caught lying... hence he said it and was worried about a possible recording... i take this statement as a full admission to saying it... he came clean with his lawyer about it hence the open ended escape from a possible recording....

 ::MonkeyDevil2::  Exactly~I never even considered that as the reason he was lying...........such a smart monkey ::MonkeyBike::
aaaw your just saying that because i overused my "hence" limit ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:00:52 PM
snipped:


The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

Sources close to the investigation tell me a local Bald Truth reader anonymously called the Putnam County abuse hotline to alert child welfare officials to our story; officials called Miller, verified the accuracy of our account, then opened a new investigation into Cummings’ fitness as a father. ::MonkeyDance::
http://ow.ly/uwZ0

Thanks IM, and others, for posting updates! 

Am glad to see that at least there will be an investigation, and that they are asking for a sworn statement from Tim.  They may be asking for a sworn statement from AH as well, as being what he heard from Tim.  Sworn statements carriy so much more weight.  Sounds as if this is the first that DCF has heard of this.  Could be one reason they haven't acted on Jr's behalf until now.  Could be ::MonkeyNoNo::


We all realize how easy it would have been for Ron to simply have unloaded the gun, locked it up, storing the ammo seperately, making it all "appear" fine and dandy, legal, responsible, etc.  I kinda doubt Ron did that himself after having a 'V-8 moment' tho.  I can imagine that his mama or gma, on reading the forums and other sites, went like lightening over there and locked it all up themselves.   Then Ron could sit back and wait for any fallout from what Tim said, and simply claim as he seems to have, 'I dunno, I don't remember doing/saying that'.  As another monkey said yesterday, 'how convenient' for him.  Just my opinion tho.  Exactly, I stated the same thing......this news hit far earlier than the day DCF and PCSO made their visit


The sworn statement from Tim will likely knock that plan all to h3ll and back.   ::MonkeyTongue::

However, this whole thing does concern me a bit still.  Because now I'm looking at the local LE.  Tim's has already said that he alerted LE after this happened.  The legal DUTY of LE was to have reported it at once to DCF.  Whether LE believed it happened or not, and whether they wanted to report or not.  And with DCF saying the report from the anon caller re AH's article was the first they've heard of it.........  then........ either DCF is lying to cover their @sses, or LE is gonna be in some major trouble!!  And I kind of doubt that LE would take the heat if DCF is lying, nope.  Am thinking if LE actually did report what Tim said, then they likely won't let DCF say they didn't. 

Am thinking that not only will there be an investigation on Jr's behalf, but also that heads are gonna roll over this one.  Either DCF's or LE's.  Heh.  Ought to be an interesting thing to watch.   ::MonkeyTongue::

All in my opinion. 




My answers in red, and the rest of your post I totally agree with!!!!! ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 12:03:56 PM
@jobellc Tip from source: Investigators are looking for Jeremiah Reagan? Questions about timelines? I am checking on this tip.about 2 hours ago from web in reply to jobellc
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

Hi Heart,

O.T.

Palaka County Dot traffic camera's, where was the area R worked, do you know please?  I am just browsering. Thank-you.

http://www.fl511.com/Cameras.aspx


224 comfort rd palatka fl


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 12:05:32 PM
@jobellc Tip from source: Investigators are looking for Jeremiah Reagan? Questions about timelines? I am checking on this tip.about 2 hours ago from web in reply to jobellc
http://twitter.com/THESKY973DOTCOM

Hi Heart,

O.T.

Palaka County Dot traffic camera's, where was the area R worked, do you know please?  I am just browsering. Thank-you.

http://www.fl511.com/Cameras.aspx



PDM Bridge LLC
www.pdmbridge.com

229 Comfort Rd
Palatka, FL 32177
i got #224 comfort rd
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=pdm+bridge+florida&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g1


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:06:40 PM
This Player that is talking about coming to work with him and Ron ....duh.....Ron AIN'T werking . Unless it is running drugs or whitelightening.
 
Was Lisa Croslin in Satsuma the night Haleigh went missing? For the life of me I can't remember.

NRCG thanks for the answers.






  ::MonkeyCool:: Can't imagine any heavy labor going on  ::MonkeyRoll::

Maybe he's cleaning his guns for him ::MonkeyDevil2::


FYI~Here is a photo of an semi-automatic assault rifle, and the 32 round clips.......very scary for someone so unstable to even be allowed to own a gun

Also, he is a youtube video of one in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QtHR7Gc_oU  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:13:19 PM
O/t just a little.......Where is Misty?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 12:14:20 PM
snipped:


The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

Sources close to the investigation tell me a local Bald Truth reader anonymously called the Putnam County abuse hotline to alert child welfare officials to our story; officials called Miller, verified the accuracy of our account, then opened a new investigation into Cummings’ fitness as a father. ::MonkeyDance::
http://ow.ly/uwZ0

Thanks IM, and others, for posting updates! 

Am glad to see that at least there will be an investigation, and that they are asking for a sworn statement from Tim.  They may be asking for a sworn statement from AH as well, as being what he heard from Tim.  Sworn statements carriy so much more weight.  Sounds as if this is the first that DCF has heard of this.  Could be one reason they haven't acted on Jr's behalf until now.  Could be ::MonkeyNoNo::


We all realize how easy it would have been for Ron to simply have unloaded the gun, locked it up, storing the ammo seperately, making it all "appear" fine and dandy, legal, responsible, etc.  I kinda doubt Ron did that himself after having a 'V-8 moment' tho.  I can imagine that his mama or gma, on reading the forums and other sites, went like lightening over there and locked it all up themselves.   Then Ron could sit back and wait for any fallout from what Tim said, and simply claim as he seems to have, 'I dunno, I don't remember doing/saying that'.  As another monkey said yesterday, 'how convenient' for him.  Just my opinion tho.  Exactly, I stated the same thing......this news hit far earlier than the day DCF and PCSO made their visit


The sworn statement from Tim will likely knock that plan all to h3ll and back.   ::MonkeyTongue::

However, this whole thing does concern me a bit still.  Because now I'm looking at the local LE.  Tim's has already said that he alerted LE after this happened.  The legal DUTY of LE was to have reported it at once to DCF.  Whether LE believed it happened or not, and whether they wanted to report or not.  And with DCF saying the report from the anon caller re AH's article was the first they've heard of it.........  then........ either DCF is lying to cover their @sses, or LE is gonna be in some major trouble!!  And I kind of doubt that LE would take the heat if DCF is lying, nope.  Am thinking if LE actually did report what Tim said, then they likely won't let DCF say they didn't. 

Am thinking that not only will there be an investigation on Jr's behalf, but also that heads are gonna roll over this one.  Either DCF's or LE's.  Heh.  Ought to be an interesting thing to watch.   ::MonkeyTongue::

All in my opinion. 




My answers in red, and the rest of your post I totally agree with!!!!! ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeyKiss::

if this was a dcf visit accompanied by le and not a le visit accompanied by dcf then they may have even called ahead to set up a visit time... he would have had plenty of time to unload it and lock it


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 12:23:43 PM
IM, oh yeah  :smt030 :2boohoo:
::MonkeyDevil::

Actually this case makes me want to  :smt030  and :smt070


DARLA~I'm not sure about where Lisa Croslin was that night.......
Good Morning guys,   wasnt Lisa suppose to be at the hospital with Hank that night.....
You would think she would have been, but I'm not sure, I'm sure someone at the hospital must have seen her if she was.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 12:25:47 PM
This Player that is talking about coming to work with him and Ron ....duh.....Ron AIN'T werking . Unless it is running drugs or whitelightening.
 
Was Lisa Croslin in Satsuma the night Haleigh went missing? For the life of me I can't remember.

NRCG thanks for the answers.






  ::MonkeyCool:: Can't imagine any heavy labor going on  ::MonkeyRoll::

Maybe he's cleaning his guns for him ::MonkeyDevil2::


FYI~Here is a photo of an semi-automatic assault rifle, and the 32 round clips.......very scary for someone so unstable to even be allowed to own a gun

Also, he is a youtube video of one in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QtHR7Gc_oU  ::MonkeyNoNo::
OMG, I really don't know what to say. Since I am not a gun owner, may I ask why one would need a gun like that? Is a gun like that used for hunting?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:28:06 PM
Thanks Mymonkey and NoRose! 

It sure seems that DCF haven't jumped on the ball with other cases, and yet with the whole world watching them, at this point one would think they'd cross every t and dot every i.  Ya know? 

And yeah, the local LE.. we've heard bits here and there.. Wouldn't be the first time if it's found that they are crooked, and what not.  Plenty of those across America, sadly.  Yet it would explain why Haleigh's case has gone no where.  Just as with Caylee's case, we sit back and wait for SOME action on the part of LE and when nothing comes as expected, we're like WTF? 

If there is corruption in the local LE and/or DCF, this may blow things sky high.  Or not. 

I just wish there could also be an independent investigation into both the local LE and DCF.  Jr removed to an entirely different state, and Haleigh's case solved.






That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

I do not know what county but I have often wondered if TN was has been under the covers with some of the Putman County folks. jmo ::MonkeyDevil2::

That, or does she know something on them, example-do they skim $$ off the drug bust cash or even drugs for recreational use........it does happen ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:31:09 PM
This Player that is talking about coming to work with him and Ron ....duh.....Ron AIN'T werking . Unless it is running drugs or whitelightening.
 
Was Lisa Croslin in Satsuma the night Haleigh went missing? For the life of me I can't remember.

NRCG thanks for the answers.






  ::MonkeyCool:: Can't imagine any heavy labor going on  ::MonkeyRoll::

Maybe he's cleaning his guns for him ::MonkeyDevil2::


FYI~Here is a photo of an semi-automatic assault rifle, and the 32 round clips.......very scary for someone so unstable to even be allowed to own a gun

Also, he is a youtube video of one in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QtHR7Gc_oU  ::MonkeyNoNo::
OMG, I really don't know what to say. Since I am not a gun owner, may I ask why one would need a gun like that? Is a gun like that used for hunting?

The youtube is a AK-47, and the photo is an AR-16 (civilian gun that is exactly like the military version of an M-16)...........I don't know anyone who uses them to hunt, but I'm not that knowledgable about that area anyway ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 12:32:43 PM
Thanks Mymonkey and NoRose! 

It sure seems that DCF haven't jumped on the ball with other cases, and yet with the whole world watching them, at this point one would think they'd cross every t and dot every i.  Ya know? 

And yeah, the local LE.. we've heard bits here and there.. Wouldn't be the first time if it's found that they are crooked, and what not.  Plenty of those across America, sadly.  Yet it would explain why Haleigh's case has gone no where.  Just as with Caylee's case, we sit back and wait for SOME action on the part of LE and when nothing comes as expected, we're like WTF? 

If there is corruption in the local LE and/or DCF, this may blow things sky high.  Or not. 

I just wish there could also be an independent investigation into both the local LE and DCF.  Jr removed to an entirely different state, and Haleigh's case solved.






That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

Alachua County I believe.

Neves, Theresa Ann
mother of Ronald L. Cummings, paternal grandmother of Haleigh Cummings, bd 3-7-1960, Alachua County SO Dispatcher, lives at 105 Rita Ln Pomona Park, FL, age 48
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4523.msg678560#msg678560



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 12:33:07 PM
Thanks, I would think that using a gun like that for hunting is out of the question, but I don't know for sure  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 15, 2009, 12:34:45 PM
Thanks Mymonkey and NoRose! 

It sure seems that DCF haven't jumped on the ball with other cases, and yet with the whole world watching them, at this point one would think they'd cross every t and dot every i.  Ya know? 

And yeah, the local LE.. we've heard bits here and there.. Wouldn't be the first time if it's found that they are crooked, and what not.  Plenty of those across America, sadly.  Yet it would explain why Haleigh's case has gone no where.  Just as with Caylee's case, we sit back and wait for SOME action on the part of LE and when nothing comes as expected, we're like WTF? 

If there is corruption in the local LE and/or DCF, this may blow things sky high.  Or not. 

I just wish there could also be an independent investigation into both the local LE and DCF.  Jr removed to an entirely different state, and Haleigh's case solved.






That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

I do not know what county but I have often wondered if TN was has been under the covers with some of the Putman County folks. jmo ::MonkeyDevil2::

That, or does she know something on them, example-do they skim $$ off the drug bust cash or even drugs for recreational use........it does happen ::MonkeyDevil2::
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?  Since ron seems to skirt by on all his charges I have always wondered how he got away with so much with so little punishment.  I know some have hinted he may be an informant but you'd think he'd be dead by now if that were true?  Maybe you're right.  Either way, he's not hunting with that gun, he's protecting himself.  IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 12:36:18 PM
Exclusive: New Misty Cummings’ “Double Agent” Details!

By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, (c) www.artharris.com, all rights reserved

As unlikely as it seems, both Misty Cummings, under suspicion as the last person to see Haleigh Cummings, and missing child advocate Mark Klaas, both blasted Texas Equusearch for an amateur undercover operation that used a volunteer to befriend Misty as a sort of “undercover mama” in an attempt to ferret out any information police believe the 17 year old babysitter turned stepmom may be hiding about the child’s disappearance.

What TE founder Tim Miller did was wrong, said Klaas, on HLN’s Nancy Grace Show Wednesday, and could threaten the case.

Not so, says Miller. In a statement issued by Texas Equusearch, the missing child advocate hailed volunteer Donna Brock as a hero of sorts, even though her role as a Satsuma double agent took a wrong turn on I-4 after she and Misty were pulled over by police, briefly handcuffed and released following an alleged road rage fiasco.

more...
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-new-misty-cummings-double-agent-details/#more-3236


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:36:19 PM
Thanks Mymonkey and NoRose! 

It sure seems that DCF haven't jumped on the ball with other cases, and yet with the whole world watching them, at this point one would think they'd cross every t and dot every i.  Ya know? 

And yeah, the local LE.. we've heard bits here and there.. Wouldn't be the first time if it's found that they are crooked, and what not.  Plenty of those across America, sadly.  Yet it would explain why Haleigh's case has gone no where.  Just as with Caylee's case, we sit back and wait for SOME action on the part of LE and when nothing comes as expected, we're like WTF? 

If there is corruption in the local LE and/or DCF, this may blow things sky high.  Or not. 

I just wish there could also be an independent investigation into both the local LE and DCF.  Jr removed to an entirely different state, and Haleigh's case solved.






That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

I do not know what county but I have often wondered if TN was has been under the covers with some of the Putman County folks. jmo ::MonkeyDevil2::

That, or does she know something on them, example-do they skim $$ off the drug bust cash or even drugs for recreational use........it does happen ::MonkeyDevil2::


Your right IM most LE have to work part time jobs to make ends meet, I would not think that there are very many places in Putman County to work....I live in a small time and the LE are not paid a whole lot...I know this because the pay scale was published in my local paper, along with everyones business. ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:38:49 PM
Thanks Mymonkey and NoRose! 

It sure seems that DCF haven't jumped on the ball with other cases, and yet with the whole world watching them, at this point one would think they'd cross every t and dot every i.  Ya know? 

And yeah, the local LE.. we've heard bits here and there.. Wouldn't be the first time if it's found that they are crooked, and what not.  Plenty of those across America, sadly.  Yet it would explain why Haleigh's case has gone no where.  Just as with Caylee's case, we sit back and wait for SOME action on the part of LE and when nothing comes as expected, we're like WTF? 

If there is corruption in the local LE and/or DCF, this may blow things sky high.  Or not. 

I just wish there could also be an independent investigation into both the local LE and DCF.  Jr removed to an entirely different state, and Haleigh's case solved.






That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

I do not know what county but I have often wondered if TN was has been under the covers with some of the Putman County folks. jmo ::MonkeyDevil2::

That, or does she know something on them, example-do they skim $$ off the drug bust cash or even drugs for recreational use........it does happen ::MonkeyDevil2::
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?  Since ron seems to skirt by on all his charges I have always wondered how he got away with so much with so little punishment.  I know some have hinted he may be an informant but you'd think he'd be dead by now if that were true?  Maybe you're right.  Either way, he's not hunting with that gun, he's protecting himself.  IMO

Something is Stinky in Chitsuma, besides the water. ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:41:39 PM
This Player that is talking about coming to work with him and Ron ....duh.....Ron AIN'T werking . Unless it is running drugs or whitelightening.
 
Was Lisa Croslin in Satsuma the night Haleigh went missing? For the life of me I can't remember.

NRCG thanks for the answers.






  ::MonkeyCool:: Can't imagine any heavy labor going on  ::MonkeyRoll::

Maybe he's cleaning his guns for him ::MonkeyDevil2::


FYI~Here is a photo of an semi-automatic assault rifle, and the 32 round clips.......very scary for someone so unstable to even be allowed to own a gun

Also, he is a youtube video of one in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QtHR7Gc_oU  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Or he could be collecting Players beer cans to recycle,Ron does need ciggy and beer money. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:41:59 PM
snipped:

“It was Misty who warmed up to Donna and started calling her to ask her to take Misty to the mall and do other girl things,” Miller told me. “Donna called me and said, ‘What do I do,’ so I said, ‘Play along and see what you can find out.’

“Haleigh remains our number one consideration, and we have to do whatever we can to find out what happened to her. This was more important than searching the woods or water. We believed this just might get us a clue as to where we needed to search.”
:smt045 :smt045 :smt045

To make sure his agent provacateur wasn’t later viewed as in any way tied to law enforcement, and anything she might learn dismissed should a criminal case ever be made against Misty, Miller tells me he didn’t relay to law enforcement where the pair were “every moment,” but investigators knew “we could locate Misty if they needed her.” He said Brock met regulary with law enforcment as a citizen-volunteer, and briefed them on what she learned talking to Ronald Cummings wife, hearing their fights on the phone, details about Misty’s heart-breaking childhood–and a dark side that has yet to emerge in public and could add to law enforcement’s behavioural profile of the mysterious stepmom.

“Misty has a furious temper,” says Miller, and “at times it scared Donna.” According to Miller, when provoked, Misty would explode in a rage Brock feared could turn violent fast. After Ronald texted her while Misty was on a trip to New York to appear on the CBS Early Show, that Brock was spying on her, not acting as just a friend, he says Misty pounded on Brock’s hotel door in New York, cursed her and called her a “bitch.” ::MonkeyMad::

Miller says he was told that Brock had provided “useful” information to law enforcement to aide their investigation. “I told her, ‘Don’t tell me details so I don’t let anything out that might hurt the case.’”

Sources close to the case confirm Brock briefed investigators several times and once accompanied Misty when she was questioned yet again. I’m told LE has 30 hours of Misty on tape, and has taken her on quite an emotional roller coaster ride in their interrogation room, recently laying out the consequences of withholding what she may know–possible life behind bars if they ever make a criminal case against her in connection with Haleigh’s disappearance.

While some believe her pending divorce from Ronald Cummings means she might be more vulnerable, less controlled and open to cooperating further, skeptics close to the case believe the split is a calculated move to hide the couple’s true motives and exploit media opportunities for profit.   ::MonkeyDevil2:: NO CHIT!!

Recently, Cummings attorney announced he was setting up a non-profit outfit to raise money for his own private investigator to bring a “fresh set of eyes to the case.”

Meanwhile, Miller says he’s met with the Texas EquuSearch (“TES”) board of directors to discuss “the recent events concerning Donna Brock and Misty Cummings,” and that the board “determined that the (victim’s) claim (behind) the so-called road rage’ incident was frivolous – there was no weapon — and that “Donna Brock did not violate any TES member rules. So, after careful consideration, the Board has determined that Donna Brock’s membership with TES remains current.”

In an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth, Tim Miller tells me it was Misty who reached out to Brock after she took a liking to the Orlando volunteer in August when the 17 year old babysitter was taking a private polygraph test she requested –then flunked “miserably,” along with a Layered Voice Analysis. Misty had asked Texas Equusearch to give her the tests in an attempt to remove a cloud of suspicion and help her remember what happened the night she reported Haleigh missing.

After Brock laid out her budding relationship with Misty, and fearing what might happen to her after he saw Ronald Cummings’ allegedly pull out an assault rifle and vow to kill them both if he learned his wife had anything to do with his missing daughter, Miller decided to do his best to keep her away from her husband, wire money to Brock to fund their road trip to the beach, “buy her some cheap outfits” and pay for visits to a nail and hair salon to pamper the teenager.





http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-new-misty-cummings-double-agent-details/#more-3236


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Claycat on October 15, 2009, 12:43:44 PM
O/t just a little.......Where is Misty?


I'm wondering that myself!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: O4Bull on October 15, 2009, 12:44:17 PM
Thanks, I would think that using a gun like that for hunting is out of the question, but I don't know for sure  ::MonkeyShocked::
hunting people who have ripped you off, maybe... why did he say he needs to use it "one more time"? 

thinking waaay outside the box, here's  a little theory I have tossed around for a long time...

what if ron knows who took Haleigh, and he's already "taken care of it"  (remember that SO who disappeared?)  is anyone else "missing" from the area?  any unexplained deaths or even suicides?

what would fit:
Misty may not know what really happened, only  that it's been taken care of (explains why she has guilty knowledge yet no answers)
Ron wants closure (he already knows she's gone, IMO)
Ron appears to be grieving, IMO, different stages
Ron covers for Misty but is still angry with her (happened on her watch)but he knows she's not directly responsible

Just thinking of another possibility.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:44:17 PM
snipped:


The Bald Truth has learned that Putnam County child welfare officials launched a new investigation Tuesday into the safety of Haleigh Cummings’ baby brother, “Junior,” 3, after we reported exclusively that an eye witness claimed the missing child’s father, Ronald Cummings, brandished an assault rifle in front of his son and threatened to kill his wife, then himself, if he learned Misty Cummings had anything to do with his missing daughter’s disappearance.

“I got a call from a child welfare investigator Tuesday who asked me to fill out a sworn statement about what I told you I saw regarding Ron’s threat,” Texas Equusearch director Tim Miller told The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview Wednesday. “Of course, I will cooperate in their investigation. I’m worried about a child living with a father who is careless with his guns.”With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller told The Bald Truth Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head. Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’ ”

Sources close to the investigation tell me a local Bald Truth reader anonymously called the Putnam County abuse hotline to alert child welfare officials to our story; officials called Miller, verified the accuracy of our account, then opened a new investigation into Cummings’ fitness as a father. ::MonkeyDance::
http://ow.ly/uwZ0

Thanks IM, and others, for posting updates! 

Am glad to see that at least there will be an investigation, and that they are asking for a sworn statement from Tim.  They may be asking for a sworn statement from AH as well, as being what he heard from Tim.  Sworn statements carriy so much more weight.  Sounds as if this is the first that DCF has heard of this.  Could be one reason they haven't acted on Jr's behalf until now.  Could be ::MonkeyNoNo::


We all realize how easy it would have been for Ron to simply have unloaded the gun, locked it up, storing the ammo seperately, making it all "appear" fine and dandy, legal, responsible, etc.  I kinda doubt Ron did that himself after having a 'V-8 moment' tho.  I can imagine that his mama or gma, on reading the forums and other sites, went like lightening over there and locked it all up themselves.   Then Ron could sit back and wait for any fallout from what Tim said, and simply claim as he seems to have, 'I dunno, I don't remember doing/saying that'.  As another monkey said yesterday, 'how convenient' for him.  Just my opinion tho.  Exactly, I stated the same thing......this news hit far earlier than the day DCF and PCSO made their visit


The sworn statement from Tim will likely knock that plan all to h3ll and back.   ::MonkeyTongue::

However, this whole thing does concern me a bit still.  Because now I'm looking at the local LE.  Tim's has already said that he alerted LE after this happened.  The legal DUTY of LE was to have reported it at once to DCF.  Whether LE believed it happened or not, and whether they wanted to report or not.  And with DCF saying the report from the anon caller re AH's article was the first they've heard of it.........  then........ either DCF is lying to cover their @sses, or LE is gonna be in some major trouble!!  And I kind of doubt that LE would take the heat if DCF is lying, nope.  Am thinking if LE actually did report what Tim said, then they likely won't let DCF say they didn't. 

Am thinking that not only will there be an investigation on Jr's behalf, but also that heads are gonna roll over this one.  Either DCF's or LE's.  Heh.  Ought to be an interesting thing to watch.   ::MonkeyTongue::

All in my opinion. 




My answers in red, and the rest of your post I totally agree with!!!!! ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeyKiss::

if this was a dcf visit accompanied by le and not a le visit accompanied by dcf then they may have even called ahead to set up a visit time... he would have had plenty of time to unload it and lock it

Or even remove it to his mommies............ ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:46:53 PM
snipped:

“It was Misty who warmed up to Donna and started calling her to ask her to take Misty to the mall and do other girl things,” Miller told me. “Donna called me and said, ‘What do I do,’ so I said, ‘Play along and see what you can find out.’

“Haleigh remains our number one consideration, and we have to do whatever we can to find out what happened to her. This was more important than searching the woods or water. We believed this just might get us a clue as to where we needed to search.”
:smt045 :smt045 :smt045

To make sure his agent provacateur wasn’t later viewed as in any way tied to law enforcement, and anything she might learn dismissed should a criminal case ever be made against Misty, Miller tells me he didn’t relay to law enforcement where the pair were “every moment,” but investigators knew “we could locate Misty if they needed her.” He said Brock met regulary with law enforcment as a citizen-volunteer, and briefed them on what she learned talking to Ronald Cummings wife, hearing their fights on the phone, details about Misty’s heart-breaking childhood–and a dark side that has yet to emerge in public and could add to law enforcement’s behavioural profile of the mysterious stepmom.

“Misty has a furious temper,” says Miller, and “at times it scared Donna.” According to Miller, when provoked, Misty would explode in a rage Brock feared could turn violent fast. After Ronald texted her while Misty was on a trip to New York to appear on the CBS Early Show, that Brock was spying on her, not acting as just a friend, he says Misty pounded on Brock’s hotel door in New York, cursed her and called her a “bitch.” ::MonkeyMad::

Miller says he was told that Brock had provided “useful” information to law enforcement to aide their investigation. “I told her, ‘Don’t tell me details so I don’t let anything out that might hurt the case.’”

Sources close to the case confirm Brock briefed investigators several times and once accompanied Misty when she was questioned yet again. I’m told LE has 30 hours of Misty on tape, and has taken her on quite an emotional roller coaster ride in their interrogation room, recently laying out the consequences of withholding what she may know–possible life behind bars if they ever make a criminal case against her in connection with Haleigh’s disappearance.

While some believe her pending divorce from Ronald Cummings means she might be more vulnerable, less controlled and open to cooperating further, skeptics close to the case believe the split is a calculated move to hide the couple’s true motives and exploit media opportunities for profit.   ::MonkeyDevil2:: NO CHIT!!

Recently, Cummings attorney announced he was setting up a non-profit outfit to raise money for his own private investigator to bring a “fresh set of eyes to the case.”

Meanwhile, Miller says he’s met with the Texas EquuSearch (“TES”) board of directors to discuss “the recent events concerning Donna Brock and Misty Cummings,” and that the board “determined that the (victim’s) claim (behind) the so-called road rage’ incident was frivolous – there was no weapon — and that “Donna Brock did not violate any TES member rules. So, after careful consideration, the Board has determined that Donna Brock’s membership with TES remains current.”

In an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth, Tim Miller tells me it was Misty who reached out to Brock after she took a liking to the Orlando volunteer in August when the 17 year old babysitter was taking a private polygraph test she requested –then flunked “miserably,” along with a Layered Voice Analysis. Misty had asked Texas Equusearch to give her the tests in an attempt to remove a cloud of suspicion and help her remember what happened the night she reported Haleigh missing.

After Brock laid out her budding relationship with Misty, and fearing what might happen to her after he saw Ronald Cummings’ allegedly pull out an assault rifle and vow to kill them both if he learned his wife had anything to do with his missing daughter, Miller decided to do his best to keep her away from her husband, wire money to Brock to fund their road trip to the beach, “buy her some cheap outfits” and pay for visits to a nail and hair salon to pamper the teenager.





http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-new-misty-cummings-double-agent-details/#more-3236

Can you imagine what Misty's temper was like after a three day binge of drugs and sex,I am more convinced than ever she hurt Haleigh and poor Butterbean is a very scared child.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:47:46 PM
Thanks Mymonkey and NoRose! 

It sure seems that DCF haven't jumped on the ball with other cases, and yet with the whole world watching them, at this point one would think they'd cross every t and dot every i.  Ya know? 

And yeah, the local LE.. we've heard bits here and there.. Wouldn't be the first time if it's found that they are crooked, and what not.  Plenty of those across America, sadly.  Yet it would explain why Haleigh's case has gone no where.  Just as with Caylee's case, we sit back and wait for SOME action on the part of LE and when nothing comes as expected, we're like WTF? 

If there is corruption in the local LE and/or DCF, this may blow things sky high.  Or not. 

I just wish there could also be an independent investigation into both the local LE and DCF.  Jr removed to an entirely different state, and Haleigh's case solved.






That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

I do not know what county but I have often wondered if TN was has been under the covers with some of the Putman County folks. jmo ::MonkeyDevil2::

That, or does she know something on them, example-do they skim $$ off the drug bust cash or even drugs for recreational use........it does happen ::MonkeyDevil2::


Your right IM most LE have to work part time jobs to make ends meet, I would not think that there are very many places in Putman County to work....I live in a small time and the LE are not paid a whole lot. ::MonkeyJnBox::

LMAO~I do think it is public record ::MonkeyTongue:: But, I've seen it happen in small LE dept's and even the large Metro ones, it seems the temptation can be overwhelming to some eeking by.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 12:48:52 PM
Miller says he was told that Brock had provided “useful” information to law enforcement to aide their investigation. “I told her, ‘Don’t tell me details so I don’t let anything out that might hurt the case.’”

Sources close to the case confirm Brock briefed investigators several times and once accompanied Misty when she was questioned yet again. I’m told LE has 30 hours of Misty on tape, and has taken her on quite an emotional roller coaster ride in their interrogation room, recently laying out the consequences of withholding what she may know–possible life behind bars if they ever make a criminal case against her in connection with Haleigh’s disappearance.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-new-misty-cummings-double-agent-details/#more-3236

GRACE: Before we go off on the road rage incident, I want to get back to this.

To Marlaina Schiavo, our producer on the story. Did it work? Did Donna Brock get anything out of Croslin?

MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Unfortunately, Nancy, it didn`t work at all. All that happened, at this point, was that she got to travel around with Misty and get to know her a little better. And all she could gather was that Misty has a sort of temper that no one has seen. But other than that, there`s been no new information that came from this new friendship.

GRACE: What do you mean by temper?

SCHIAVO: Well, apparently, you know, she had witnessed a couple of conversations that Misty had while they were on the road, with Ronald. And apparently, she got really, really hostile with Ronald at times, and she witnessed her just not -- not being very even-tempered.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/14/ng.01.html

He estimates the polygraph and other truth testing expenses totalled about $8,000 and the road trip about $2,000, funded out of TE donations as valid expenses in the search for a missing child. “The goal was to gain her trust, and the next thing you know, Misty was acting like Donna was her mother,” asking her opinion and advice.

“I believed we needed to take advantage of this opportunity and if we learned anything, pass it on to investigators to help in the search for Haleigh,” he tells me.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-new-misty-cummings-double-agent-details/#more-3236


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
Thanks, I would think that using a gun like that for hunting is out of the question, but I don't know for sure  ::MonkeyShocked::
hunting people who have ripped you off, maybe... why did he say he needs to use it "one more time"? 

thinking waaay outside the box, here's  a little theory I have tossed around for a long time...

what if ron knows who took Haleigh, and he's already "taken care of it"  (remember that SO who disappeared?)  is anyone else "missing" from the area?  any unexplained deaths or even suicides?

what would fit:
Misty may not know what really happened, only  that it's been taken care of (explains why she has guilty knowledge yet no answers)
Ron wants closure (he already knows she's gone, IMO)
Ron appears to be grieving, IMO, different stages
Ron covers for Misty but is still angry with her (happened on her watch)but he knows she's not directly responsible

Just thinking of another possibility.

Your theory could be very well true....That was Chad Reynolds who is missing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 15, 2009, 12:49:49 PM
Hello Monkeys,

T.Y. Heart for address and link to PDM Bridge, Just curious his route if it's on camera, means nothin' except I'm curious:)




http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-new-misty-cummings-double-agent-details/#more-3236


snip respectfully,

Miller says he was told that Brock had provided “useful” information to law enforcement to aide their investigation. “I told her, ‘Don’t tell me details so I don’t let anything out that might hurt the case.’”

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-new-misty-cummings-double-agent-details/#more-3236


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: jen3560 on October 15, 2009, 12:50:02 PM


That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

Alachua County I believe.

Neves, Theresa Ann
mother of Ronald L. Cummings, paternal grandmother of Haleigh Cummings, bd 3-7-1960, Alachua County SO Dispatcher, lives at 105 Rita Ln Pomona Park, FL, age 48
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4523.msg678560#msg678560



Thank you Heart.

I see that Wyks posted that initially.

Wyks - do you remember where you got that info from?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Magnolia on October 15, 2009, 12:51:00 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 12:51:10 PM
Exclusive: New Misty Cummings’ “Double Agent” Details!

By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, (c) www.artharris.com, all rights reserved

As unlikely as it seems, both Misty Cummings, under suspicion as the last person to see Haleigh Cummings, and missing child advocate Mark Klaas, both blasted Texas Equusearch for an amateur undercover operation that used a volunteer to befriend Misty as a sort of “undercover mama” in an attempt to ferret out any information police believe the 17 year old babysitter turned stepmom may be hiding about the child’s disappearance.

What TE founder Tim Miller did was wrong, said Klaas, on HLN’s Nancy Grace Show Wednesday, and could threaten the case.

Not so, says Miller. In a statement issued by Texas Equusearch, the missing child advocate hailed volunteer Donna Brock as a hero of sorts, even though her role as a Satsuma double agent took a wrong turn on I-4 after she and Misty were pulled over by police, briefly handcuffed and released following an alleged road rage fiasco.

more...
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/15/exclusive-new-misty-cummings-double-agent-details/#more-3236
I have to think about this one, I really do, I understand why Mark Klaas said what he did, even though I believe he could have done it with more courtesy. I think Tim Miller thought this Donna could help, I think he did that with good intentions, but what really bothers me is the behavior that Donna displayed, that was totally wrong in my book.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 15, 2009, 12:51:19 PM
This Player that is talking about coming to work with him and Ron ....duh.....Ron AIN'T werking . Unless it is running drugs or whitelightening.
 
Was Lisa Croslin in Satsuma the night Haleigh went missing? For the life of me I can't remember.

NRCG thanks for the answers.






  ::MonkeyCool:: Can't imagine any heavy labor going on  ::MonkeyRoll::

Maybe he's cleaning his guns for him ::MonkeyDevil2::


FYI~Here is a photo of an semi-automatic assault rifle, and the 32 round clips.......very scary for someone so unstable to even be allowed to own a gun

Also, he is a youtube video of one in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QtHR7Gc_oU  ::MonkeyNoNo::
OMG, I really don't know what to say. Since I am not a gun owner, may I ask why one would need a gun like that? Is a gun like that used for hunting?

The youtube is a AK-47, and the photo is an AR-16 (civilian gun that is exactly like the military version of an M-16)...........I don't know anyone who uses them to hunt, but I'm not that knowledgable about that area anyway ::MonkeyTongue::

They are not used for hunting normal animals, i dnt know about like safari animals but im pretty sure not, those shoot too many rounds too fast, u use a normal rifle to hunt you dont want to blow the animal/meat to snit you just want a precision kill. all i have seen/heard assult rifles used for is just that assult, they are used for killing ppl in the army, there is the civilian one, as you said, but theres a reason that the army one is illegal, its for killin ppl. ar-16 i suppose would just be for "fun" or for drug lord protection stuff like that.. :smt067 is pretty close to the AK-47, rapid fire assult rifle


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 12:52:47 PM
O/t just a little.......Where is Misty?


I'm wondering that myself!

Last we heard at a service station in Satsuma

I bet it is situated on a corner   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 12:56:31 PM
O/t just a little.......Where is Misty?


I'm wondering that myself!

Last we heard at a service station in Satsuma

I bet it is situated on a corner   ::MonkeyShocked::


LMAO....and screaming at folks" I am just 17".


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 12:58:14 PM
Thanks, I would think that using a gun like that for hunting is out of the question, but I don't know for sure  ::MonkeyShocked::
hunting people who have ripped you off, maybe... why did he say he needs to use it "one more time"? 

thinking waaay outside the box, here's  a little theory I have tossed around for a long time...

what if ron knows who took Haleigh, and he's already "taken care of it"  (remember that SO who disappeared?)  is anyone else "missing" from the area?  any unexplained deaths or even suicides?

what would fit:
Misty may not know what really happened, only  that it's been taken care of (explains why she has guilty knowledge yet no answers)
Ron wants closure (he already knows she's gone, IMO)
Ron appears to be grieving, IMO, different stages
Ron covers for Misty but is still angry with her (happened on her watch)but he knows she's not directly responsible

Just thinking of another possibility.
Could be, I am very bothered with the comment about the gun, and more more time  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 15, 2009, 12:58:54 PM
Thanks, I would think that using a gun like that for hunting is out of the question, but I don't know for sure  ::MonkeyShocked::
hunting people who have ripped you off, maybe... why did he say he needs to use it "one more time"? 

thinking waaay outside the box, here's  a little theory I have tossed around for a long time...

what if ron knows who took Haleigh, and he's already "taken care of it"  (remember that SO who disappeared?)  is anyone else "missing" from the area?  any unexplained deaths or even suicides?

what would fit:
Misty may not know what really happened, only  that it's been taken care of (explains why she has guilty knowledge yet no answers)
Ron wants closure (he already knows she's gone, IMO)
Ron appears to be grieving, IMO, different stages
Ron covers for Misty but is still angry with her (happened on her watch)but he knows she's not directly responsible

Just thinking of another possibility.

Ron and Misty know where Haleigh is or isn't, imo.  NG finds it hard to believe anyone could keep their mouths shut this

long, I believe NG is correct. I think TN may know something because she is squirrelly. ::MonkeyTease::

Haleigh's disappearance happened between those two Yoyo's. JMO

Why would FAB would to blow himself up if he still has another child who needs him?  Unless he is guilty.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 01:02:31 PM
ScareyCarrie thanks, I didn't think a gun like that was used for hunting, but wasn't sure. Now that we know about Misty's horrible temper, I can't imagine what it was like after a three day bender, but I have some idea, and it isn't good  ::MonkeyEek:: Watch out Ron, Misty will get you big time, if you get her mad  ::MonkeyEek:: This is not going to end good, something else bad is going to happen at least that is how I feel.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 01:02:36 PM
Thanks, I would think that using a gun like that for hunting is out of the question, but I don't know for sure  ::MonkeyShocked::
hunting people who have ripped you off, maybe... why did he say he needs to use it "one more time"? 

thinking waaay outside the box, here's  a little theory I have tossed around for a long time...

what if ron knows who took Haleigh, and he's already "taken care of it"  (remember that SO who disappeared?)  is anyone else "missing" from the area?  any unexplained deaths or even suicides?

what would fit:
Misty may not know what really happened, only  that it's been taken care of (explains why she has guilty knowledge yet no answers)
Ron wants closure (he already knows she's gone, IMO)
Ron appears to be grieving, IMO, different stages
Ron covers for Misty but is still angry with her (happened on her watch)but he knows she's not directly responsible

Just thinking of another possibility.

Your theory could be very well true....That was Chad Reynolds who is missing.
I believe Chad Reynolds went missing prior to HaLeigh missing.

Missing Haleigh Cummings Connection? Chad Eugene Reynolds, Sex Offender Missing Since February 4, 2009 from Ochlawaha, FL
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/02/15/missing-haleigh-cummings-connection-chad-eugene-reynolds-sex-offender-missing-since-february-4-2009-from-ochlawaha-fl/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 01:03:11 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 01:03:11 PM
O/t just a little.......Where is Misty?


I'm wondering that myself!

Last we heard at a service station in Satsuma

I bet it is situated on a corner   ::MonkeyShocked::
   ::MonkeyEek:: Where do you think she is at?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 01:05:15 PM
Thanks, I would think that using a gun like that for hunting is out of the question, but I don't know for sure  ::MonkeyShocked::
hunting people who have ripped you off, maybe... why did he say he needs to use it "one more time"? 

thinking waaay outside the box, here's  a little theory I have tossed around for a long time...

what if ron knows who took Haleigh, and he's already "taken care of it"  (remember that SO who disappeared?)  is anyone else "missing" from the area?  any unexplained deaths or even suicides?

what would fit:
Misty may not know what really happened, only  that it's been taken care of (explains why she has guilty knowledge yet no answers)
Ron wants closure (he already knows she's gone, IMO)
Ron appears to be grieving, IMO, different stages
Ron covers for Misty but is still angry with her (happened on her watch)but he knows she's not directly responsible

Just thinking of another possibility.

Ron and Misty know where Haleigh is or isn't, imo.  NG finds it hard to believe anyone could keep their mouths shut this

long, I believe NG is correct. I think TN may know something because she is squirrelly. ::MonkeyTease::

Haleigh's disappearance happened between those two Yoyo's. JMO

Why would FAB would to blow himself up if he still has another child who needs him?  Unless he is guilty.  ::MonkeyDevil2::
I'm with you on those thought. And thanks IM for the article  (While some believe her pending divorce from Ronald Cummings means she might be more vulnerable, less controlled and open to cooperating further, skeptics close to the case believe the split is a calculated move to hide the couple’s true motives and exploit media opportunities for profit. ) All I'll add to that is, you bet  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 01:05:15 PM
Thanks, I would think that using a gun like that for hunting is out of the question, but I don't know for sure  ::MonkeyShocked::
hunting people who have ripped you off, maybe... why did he say he needs to use it "one more time"? 

thinking waaay outside the box, here's  a little theory I have tossed around for a long time...

what if ron knows who took Haleigh, and he's already "taken care of it"  (remember that SO who disappeared?)  is anyone else "missing" from the area?  any unexplained deaths or even suicides?

what would fit:
Misty may not know what really happened, only  that it's been taken care of (explains why she has guilty knowledge yet no answers)
Ron wants closure (he already knows she's gone, IMO)
Ron appears to be grieving, IMO, different stages
Ron covers for Misty but is still angry with her (happened on her watch)but he knows she's not directly responsible

Just thinking of another possibility.

Your theory could be very well true....That was Chad Reynolds who is missing.
I believe Chad Reynolds went missing prior to HaLeigh missing.

Missing Haleigh Cummings Connection? Chad Eugene Reynolds, Sex Offender Missing Since February 4, 2009 from Ochlawaha, FL
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/02/15/missing-haleigh-cummings-connection-chad-eugene-reynolds-sex-offender-missing-since-february-4-2009-from-ochlawaha-fl/

TY Heart we can always depend on you for the facts. ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on October 15, 2009, 01:06:16 PM
ScareyCarrie thanks, I didn't think a gun like that was used for hunting, but wasn't sure. Now that we know about Misty's horrible temper, I can't imagine what it was like after a three day bender, but I have some idea, and it isn't good  ::MonkeyEek:: Watch out Ron, Misty will get you big time, if you get her mad  ::MonkeyEek:: This is not going to end good, something else bad is going to happen at least that is how I feel.

No problem! i couldnt imagine having a fully automatic in the house with a child, especially loaded!!! jeesh, thats sad, any gun is scary around a kid, loaded or not!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Looks like i better buy a gun safe when im ready for kids


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 01:06:20 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, but just imagine how scared Tim and Jr were? I would have been so terrified I would have probably dropped over.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 01:14:33 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, but just imagine how scared Tim and Jr were? I would have been so terrified I would have probably dropped over.


I am sure Ronald keeps Jr. terrified so he will not open up when being counseled. I pray Jr. is not scarred for life. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 01:17:37 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, but just imagine how scared Tim and Jr were? I would have been so terrified I would have probably dropped over.


I am sure Ronald keeps Jr. terrified so he will not open up when being counseled. I pray Jr. is not scarred for life. ::MonkeyAngel::
  ::MonkeyEek:: Isn't that a horrible thought, but you are probably right.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 15, 2009, 01:22:04 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::



sounds right, FAB likes being center of attention, FAB screwed up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on October 15, 2009, 01:28:46 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, but just imagine how scared Tim and Jr were? I would have been so terrified I would have probably dropped over.

I agree, Ron struts about making grandiose statements and playing to the crowd, he is a bully and a blowhard and apparently has one braincell that he doesn't use too often.....but he is all hot air.

I believe he never gave it a second thought. Now it's time to grow up and shut up....he may lose his remaining child over it, sad but he has to get himself under control.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 01:32:50 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.
  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::




I vote drama queen and this could be part of him "trying to convince TM" that he had no part in it ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm pretty sure he stated what he did before or after he put the barrel of the rifle in his mouth in front of a innocent scared child :2brickwall: :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on October 15, 2009, 01:39:28 PM
Thanks, I would think that using a gun like that for hunting is out of the question, but I don't know for sure  ::MonkeyShocked::
hunting people who have ripped you off, maybe... why did he say he needs to use it "one more time"? 

thinking waaay outside the box, here's  a little theory I have tossed around for a long time...

what if ron knows who took Haleigh, and he's already "taken care of it"  (remember that SO who disappeared?)  is anyone else "missing" from the area?  any unexplained deaths or even suicides?

what would fit:
Misty may not know what really happened, only  that it's been taken care of (explains why she has guilty knowledge yet no answers)
Ron wants closure (he already knows she's gone, IMO)
Ron appears to be grieving, IMO, different stages
Ron covers for Misty but is still angry with her (happened on her watch)but he knows she's not directly responsible

Just thinking of another possibility.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: I very respectfully disagree, I know you don't like Ron and would like him to be arrested for something but trying to pin a missing person who not only went missing days before Haleigh, but is probably alive and threatening our children elsewhere. No one said missing presumed dead!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 01:39:30 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.
  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::




I vote drama queen and this could be part of him "trying to convince TM" that he had no part in it ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm pretty sure he stated what he did before or after he put the barrel of the rifle in his mouth in front of a innocent scared child :2brickwall: :2brickwall:

RON is pretty good at falling to his knees....makes me go  hmmmm  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 01:41:12 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, but just imagine how scared Tim and Jr were? I would have been so terrified I would have probably dropped over.

I agree, Ron struts about making grandiose statements and playing to the crowd, he is a bully and a blowhard and apparently has one braincell that he doesn't use too often.....but he is all hot air.

I believe he never gave it a second thought. Now it's time to grow up and shut up....he may lose his remaining child over it, sad but he has to get himself under control.
I'm sure he never gave it a second thought, I wonder how many times little Jr has seen that gun, or anyother gun Ron may have. And let's hope Misty doesn't have a gun, if her temper is as bad as TM and Donna are saying  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 01:42:20 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.
  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::




I vote drama queen and this could be part of him "trying to convince TM" that he had no part in it ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm pretty sure he stated what he did before or after he put the barrel of the rifle in his mouth in front of a innocent scared child :2brickwall: :2brickwall:

RON is pretty good at falling to his knees....makes me go  hmmmm  ::MonkeyDevil2::
Yes, and when he did that early on in the case, imo, it looked about as fake as you can get.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
Dr.Fessel 
Registered User   Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 448 
 
Hey Player, if you really want Ron's side of the story out and how great he is known why don't you let him get on your computer when he is at your house tomorrow and clear up some of this stuff? No better testimony then from the horses mouth. 
  ::MonkeyCool:: Just a super great suggestion  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 01:52:28 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.
  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::




I vote drama queen and this could be part of him "trying to convince TM" that he had no part in it ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm pretty sure he stated what he did before or after he put the barrel of the rifle in his mouth in front of a innocent scared child :2brickwall: :2brickwall:

RON is pretty good at falling to his knees....makes me go  hmmmm  ::MonkeyDevil2::
Yes, and when he did that early on in the case, imo, it looked about as fake as you can get.

My thoughts also NRCG....and his mammie beside him. I may be eating crow when this all comes to a head...but I think Haleigh got between Ron and Misty during a fight and was injured and so they both are guilty so that would be a reason for the cover up between the two of them. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 01:53:47 PM
O/t just a little.......Where is Misty?


I'm wondering that myself!

Last we heard at a service station in Satsuma

I bet it is situated on a corner   ::MonkeyShocked::


LMAO....and screaming at folks" I am just 17".

Holding a cardboard sign stating: Baaby sat fur fre rom, bord, an othr (misty's spelling included)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 15, 2009, 02:04:01 PM
Dr.Fessel 
Registered User   Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 448 
 
Hey Player, if you really want Ron's side of the story out and how great he is known why don't you let him get on your computer when he is at your house tomorrow and clear up some of this stuff? No better testimony then from the horses mouth. 
  ::MonkeyCool:: Just a super great suggestion  ::MonkeyRoll::
Yea like that is gonna happen, he will be more interested in hlping player finish off that fifth of liquor then getting on the comp.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 02:05:31 PM
A Statement From William Cobra Staubs About Recent Developments

Posted on October 15th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in crime


There has been a lot of scuttlebutt about Cobra over the past couple of days, he asked me to publish an article explaining his position and exactly what is going on. To know Cobra is to love him, but he does have a bit of a habit of speaking in Cobra, I have done my best to translate, and any mistakes are entirely mine and unintentional – Simon

I do not want to take up any more radio time as there are more important news stories than mine. I do however want to address the E-mails that are asking me to make statements about Kim, Jim, and who the Lone Ranger is.

Tim Holmseth in my simple understanding of complex people, is as off the wall as the people that follow him on his site. I have had no dealings with Tim for some time, and do not plan on talking with him in the foreseeable future. In my opinion he has little honor and his integrity is now in question. To some he might even be viewed as an internet terrorist.

Many of you have likely heard the tapes put out by Holmseth. Yes I did say those things. I swore a lot. I was very angry with the system, I was very very angry with Kim, I was very angry with some online posters, and I was very angry with Tim. There does however come a day of reckoning, and this seems to be it. On one of the tapes I said that I thought Kim was the devil, and that she was trying to set up White Boy Greg. In retrospect, maybe she was just testing my integrity. Maybe she did not know what to say or do as she had me as a friend, and a client that was making her job as a lawyer unbearable. It obviously did not help that I was looking side ways at her client. Kim is, and was governed by the ethics of her profession and realized that she needed to distance herself from me in order to protect her client. I make no apology, I was merely reacting to what I had seen and perceived, if the truth is a lie, and the lie is the truth, then I was on the wrong case. I am sure that part of the frustration was caused because I was these to investigate on Haleigh’s behalf, I viewed the missing girl as my boss, not the family members. No one was above suspicion. The net result was that I managed to upset one on the best Civil Attorneys in Florida, I also took a couple of shots at the prosecutors investigators brother. Once again, I am not sure that it was the best move, but I wanted to do everything I could for Haleigh Cummings.

A lot of water has passed under the bridge, as a result Kim and I are patching up our long standing friendship.

The mission is to find Haleigh Cummings, it always has been.

There are web sites that continue to spew untruths and innuendo, it is time to put the crayons away, and get back to following the facts.

The are some very fresh insights coming to light in Satsuma, I suggest that we all get up to speed and follow the investigative facts as we know them. The rubbish being printed by crayon boy, is simply that. We must get on the right path and stop the curve balls, only then can we move forward.

The bottom line is that some of us are mature enough to forgive, there is honor in that. Since it was me that brought both Kim and Art into this mess, it is me, not them, that is responsible for the outcome.

William Cobra Staubs

http://www.bloggernews.net/122637


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 02:06:49 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.
  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::




I vote drama queen and this could be part of him "trying to convince TM" that he had no part in it ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm pretty sure he stated what he did before or after he put the barrel of the rifle in his mouth in front of a innocent scared child :2brickwall: :2brickwall:

RON is pretty good at falling to his knees....makes me go  hmmmm  ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

LMAO ::MonkeyWink:: but I gotcha


When people post Ron is a blow hard, sometimes I agree, but the I remember he played Russian Roulette with Crystal and Amber IIRC, even thought it's said the chamber was empty, many have died from such irresonsible acts thinking the exact same thing ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Plus, he's a total control freak and there is not much I'd put past him. ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 02:12:45 PM
HaLeigh Cummings sighting and suspicious activity not investigated by any law enforcement

New information on two South Carolina HaLeigh incidents suggest Putnam County Sheriff’s Department press releases contain false information

East Grand Forks, MN, October 14, 2009:  Further investigation into two police reports filed regarding missing child HaLeigh Cummings reveals disturbing discrepancies in what has been reported to the media by law enforcement. On October 13, the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department issued a press release that stated in part: “Recently, two sightings -- one each in Georgia and South Carolina -- were reported. There was videotape evidence for one of the sightings. However, the girl in the video was confirmed to be someone other than HaLeigh Cummings,” the press release said. On October 14, Write Into Action contacted both the Goodwill Emporium, North Augusta, South Carolina, and the Tiger Express Gas Station, Brunson, South Carolina, regarding a HaLeigh sighting and suspicious activity at those businesses. Police reports were filed to law enforcement by a Georgia woman living close to the South Carolina border who provided detailed information. Neither business had ever been contacted by any law enforcement, nor was any video requested. Brian Grady, management, Goodwill Emporium, said he was not aware of anything whatsoever.  “I called the police department [in North Augusta] and they weren’t aware of anything,” Grady said, somewhat confused. On February 10, 2009, the day HaLeigh Cummings disappeared, a customer at Grady’s business reported seeing two women and a man purchasing shoes and clothes for a child named “HaLeigh.” One of the customers told the cashier she had just been approved to provide foster care and was going to be taking a relative’s child who had special needs.  Grady said some his stores have cameras but no video was requested of him. “I know who you’re talking about because I watch the news,” he said. A detailed sighting of HaLeigh Cummings at the Tiger Express in Brunson on April 26 was also reported to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department.  Marlene Fail, shift manager, Tiger Express, said, “No, we haven’t heard anything.” Fail said Tiger Express has surveillance cameras but no video was ever requested and they had not been contacted by any law enforcement.
http://www.writeintoaction.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 15, 2009, 02:13:26 PM
OMG, I guess Cobra knows when its time to eat crow..... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 02:19:41 PM
After working with Marc Klaas for several years I can tell you that without a doubt Marc was fuming tonight. Caught me a bit by surprise. He really feels strongly about this situation.

He is right. Tim has now made it harder for other search groups to get law enforcement to work with them.

People will lump all search teams together will Tim now.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4289352&postcount=20


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 15, 2009, 02:22:08 PM
After working with Marc Klaas for several years I can tell you that without a doubt Marc was fuming tonight. Caught me a bit by surprise. He really feels strongly about this situation.

He is right. Tim has now made it harder for other search groups to get law enforcement to work with them.

People will lump all search teams together will Tim now.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4289352&postcount=20
I respect Klass, but he made a statement that is completey ludicrious, What if Tim's plan had worked and they found HaLeigh because of the Donna womans friendship with Misty, wonder if Mark Klass would have jumped on the praise Tim wagon....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on October 15, 2009, 02:25:36 PM
HaLeigh Cummings sighting and suspicious activity not investigated by any law enforcement

New information on two South Carolina HaLeigh incidents suggest Putnam County Sheriff’s Department press releases contain false information

East Grand Forks, MN, October 14, 2009:  Further investigation into two police reports filed regarding missing child HaLeigh Cummings reveals disturbing discrepancies in what has been reported to the media by law enforcement. On October 13, the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department issued a press release that stated in part: “Recently, two sightings -- one each in Georgia and South Carolina -- were reported. There was videotape evidence for one of the sightings. However, the girl in the video was confirmed to be someone other than HaLeigh Cummings,” the press release said. On October 14, Write Into Action contacted both the Goodwill Emporium, North Augusta, South Carolina, and the Tiger Express Gas Station, Brunson, South Carolina, regarding a HaLeigh sighting and suspicious activity at those businesses. Police reports were filed to law enforcement by a Georgia woman living close to the South Carolina border who provided detailed information. Neither business had ever been contacted by any law enforcement, nor was any video requested. Brian Grady, management, Goodwill Emporium, said he was not aware of anything whatsoever.  “I called the police department [in North Augusta] and they weren’t aware of anything,” Grady said, somewhat confused. On February 10, 2009, the day HaLeigh Cummings disappeared, a customer at Grady’s business reported seeing two women and a man purchasing shoes and clothes for a child named “HaLeigh.” One of the customers told the cashier she had just been approved to provide foster care and was going to be taking a relative’s child who had special needs.  Grady said some his stores have cameras but no video was requested of him. “I know who you’re talking about because I watch the news,” he said. A detailed sighting of HaLeigh Cummings at the Tiger Express in Brunson on April 26 was also reported to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department.  Marlene Fail, shift manager, Tiger Express, said, “No, we haven’t heard anything.” Fail said Tiger Express has surveillance cameras but no video was ever requested and they had not been contacted by any law enforcement.
http://www.writeintoaction.com/

Heart,

Do you recall early on when it was said that  one of the parents had relatives in Lexington County SC (i think it was Crystal not sure)  well Augusta Ga. is only about 70 miles from Lexington Co. SC.... this really makes me wonder about if there was a sighting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 15, 2009, 02:26:33 PM
Jersey:   ::MonkeyLaugh::  (all this talk about ron's drawers is making me nauseated)  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

IM:  I was trying to think of one for GGSykes too.  ::MonkeyWink::

GGRanny Thongs...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/emb_-granny-panties_0.jpg)

Alright, I just got up, popped open a diet coke and now have to spend the morning cleaning the laptop and getting a new soda.  ::MonkeyKiss::

Try putting those panties on your head.  ::MonkeyJnBox:: I had a roommate (in the late 1970's) who used to put her underwear on her head, everyone did that, those really silly times. These bloomers could smother a person:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 02:28:51 PM
After working with Marc Klaas for several years I can tell you that without a doubt Marc was fuming tonight. Caught me a bit by surprise. He really feels strongly about this situation.

He is right. Tim has now made it harder for other search groups to get law enforcement to work with them.

People will lump all search teams together will Tim now.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4289352&postcount=20
  ::MonkeyEek:: Tricia, you made me fall out of my chair.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: seahorse on October 15, 2009, 02:33:54 PM
I wonder how Ronald said all that stuff to Tim Miller with the barrel of a rifle
in his mouth.
  His words must have been pretty garbled. ::MonkeyConfused::

Ron sounds like a real drama queen, I guess that goes along with being a FAB.

I bet he was doing all that for show not thinking it would "backfire" on him. ::MonkeyMad::




I vote drama queen and this could be part of him "trying to convince TM" that he had no part in it ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm pretty sure he stated what he did before or after he put the barrel of the rifle in his mouth in front of a innocent scared child :2brickwall: :2brickwall:

(LOL) Funny little guy banging little head on the brick wall. ::MonkeyLaugh::

Brillant move Ronald! There should be award for his stupidity.

Why does RC even have an attorney when he is such a cluck?

Ronald must stay up all night to be this stupid.

This just takes practice to be this dumb.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 02:34:24 PM
OMG, I guess Cobra knows when its time to eat crow..... ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyEek::.................well, I think he is a bit unstable myself but with a basically good heart, but easily swayed to the dark side, that being said here ya go Cobra, and enjoy ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 02:41:05 PM
Assault Rifles for Hunting
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/160700/assault_rifles_for_hunting.html?cat=11

"Assault rifles" are less powerful than most hunting rifles.

   

Edited on Sat Apr-11-09 12:02 PM by Tim01
I've heard lots of rumors about how powerful "assault rifles" are. They are more powerful than handguns, but less powerful than most average rifles. In fact, they are near the bottom of the list. Power is expressed in foot lbs. This is most of the common hunting calibers. The "assault rifle" calibers are labeled to the right as AR15 and AK47. They are listed by power, least to most, top to bottom.



Caliber_____________________Energy in ft lbs

.22 Hornet (45 Sp)_________ 723
.357 Mag. (180 HP)_________ 960
.30 Carbine (110 RN)_______ 967
.222 Rem. (50 Sp)__________ 1094
.223 Rem. (55 Sp)__________ 1282____ AR15
.204 Ruger (33 BTSP)_______ 1308
7.62x39 (125 Sp)___________ 1552____ AK47
.45-70 (405 FP) ____________ 1590
.44 Rem. Mag. (240 FP)_____ 1650
.22-250 Rem. (55 Sp)_______ 1654
.220 Swift (55 SpBT)_______ 1765
.223 WSSM (55 SpBT)________ 1810
.30-30 Win. (170 FP)_______ 1827
.30-30 Win. (150 FP)_______ 1902
.32 Spec. (170 FP)_________ 1910
.35 Rem. (200 RN)__________ 1921
.243 Win. (100 Sp)_________ 1945
.243 Win. (80 Sp)__________ 1993
6.8mm Rem. SPC (115 Sp) ___ 2002
.257 Roberts (120 Sp)______ 2060
6.5x55 SE (140 Sp)_________ 2100
8x57 JS (170 RN)___________ 2100
6mm Rem. (100 Sp)__________ 2133
.243 WSSM (100 Sp)_________ 2147
.45-70 (300 HP)____________ 2182
7x57 Mauser (140 Sp)_______ 2200
.300 Sav. (150 Sp)_________ 2303
.260 Rem. (140 Sp)_________ 2351
.25-06 Rem. (120 Sp)_______ 2382
.25 WSSM (120 Sp)__________ 2382
.303 British (180 Sp)________ 2420
7mm-08 Rem. (140 Sp)_______ 2542
.338-57 O'Connor (200 FP)__ 2558
.240 Wby. Mag. (100 Sp)____ 2576
.308 Win. (150 Sp)_________ 2648
.270 Win. (130 Sp)_________ 2702
.270 Win. (150 Sp)_________ 2705
.308 Win. (180 Sp)_________ 2743
6.5mm Rem. Mag. (120 Sp)___ 2744
6.5x68 S (140 Sp)__________ 2779
.280 Rem. (140 Sp)_________ 2797
.30-06 Spfd. (150 Sp)______ 2820
.264 Win. Mag. (140 Sp)____ 2854
.257 Wby. Mag. (120 Sp)____ 2910
.30-06 Spfd. (180 Sp)______ 2913
.444 Marlin (240 FP)_______ 2942
.35 Whelen (200 Sp)________ 3177
7mm Rem. Mag. (150 SpBT)___ 3221
7mm Rem. SAUM (150 Sp)_____ 3221
.270 WSM (150 Sp)__________ 3304
7mm WSM (150 Sp)___________ 3410
.350 Rem. Mag. (200 Sp)______ 3419
.450 Marlin (350 FP)_______ 3427
.300 Rem. SAUM (180 Sp)____ 3501
.300 Win. Mag. (180 Sp)____ 3501
.270 Wby. Mag. (150 Sp)____ 3502
.300 WSM (180 Sp)__________ 3526
9.3x62 (286 SpBT)__________ 3544
7mm Wby. Mag. (150 SpBT)_____ 3627
7mm Ultra Mag. (160 Sp)____ 3637
.338 Win. Mag. (225 Sp)____ 3860
.300 Wby. Mag. (180 Sp)____ 4195
.300 Ultra Mag. (180 Sp)____ 4221
.375 H&H Mag. (300 Sp)_____ 4262
.338 Ultra Mag (250 Sp)____ 4540
.340 Wby. Mag. (250 Sp)____ 4801
.458 Win. Mag. (500 RN)____ 4850
.416 Rigby (400 RN)________ 4990
.375 Ultra Mag (300 Sp)____ 5073
.416 Rem. Mag. (400 Sp)_____ 5115
.378 Wby. Mag. (270 SP)____ 6062
.460 Wby. Mag. (500 RN)_____ 7504
Cartridge (Wb + type)_______ ME (ft lb)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=214519&mesg_id=214519

Google search on Assault Rifles for Hunting =  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=7XV&q=Assault+Rifles+for+Hunting&start=10&sa=N


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 15, 2009, 02:48:03 PM
O/T: Anyone watching the odd looking Hot Air Ballon running wild in Colorado with a six year old boy aboard? Somehow the child sneaked into the carry basket.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 02:52:24 PM
O/T: Anyone watching the odd looking Hot Air Ballon running wild in Colorado with a six year old boy aboard? Somehow the child sneaked into the carry basket.

I'm watching it on Fox and it's the oddest looking balloon I've ever seen, and I've never seen a balloon travel that fast.......I have no idea how they are going to get him down and pray that he doesn't get high, I've been skydiving in the TCI and at 10m feet it's cold as he77 there and it was in the 90's on the ground ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 02:56:29 PM
O/T

Breaking News:

Live now on HLN

Sherriff: 6 yr old boy  got in large helium balloon family was building.
Rope holding it in place became detached, then aircraft took off.




Deputies chase boy floating in balloon aircraft

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33330516/ns/us_news-life/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 02:58:53 PM
O/T

Breaking News:

Live now on HLN

Sherriff: 6 yr old boy  got in large helium balloon family was building.
Rope holding it in place became detached, then aircraft took off.




Deputies chase boy floating in balloon aircraft

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33330516/ns/us_news-life/

(http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/n_balloon_boy2_091015.h2.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 15, 2009, 03:01:27 PM
O/T: Anyone watching the odd looking Hot Air Ballon running wild in Colorado with a six year old boy aboard? Somehow the child sneaked into the carry basket.

Yes!I came over to see if you guys are watching this.   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2009, 03:04:07 PM
O/T: Anyone watching the odd looking Hot Air Ballon running wild in Colorado with a six year old boy aboard? Somehow the child sneaked into the carry basket.

Yes!I came over to see if you guys are watching this.   ::MonkeyShocked::

Absolutely terrifying. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 15, 2009, 03:05:22 PM
O/T: Anyone watching the odd looking Hot Air Ballon running wild in Colorado with a six year old boy aboard? Somehow the child sneaked into the carry basket.

Yes!I came over to see if you guys are watching this.   ::MonkeyShocked::
The is not looking good, poor child. Filled with helium it could go forever I'm guessing???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:06:43 PM
O/T: Anyone watching the odd looking Hot Air Ballon running wild in Colorado with a six year old boy aboard? Somehow the child sneaked into the carry basket.

Yes!I came over to see if you guys are watching this.   ::MonkeyShocked::

Absolutely terrifying. 
they said there are helicopters flying belowit toshoot it down and are speculating that if it higher then helicopters can fly that it is 7 degrees at that height and the news helicopters ave lost sight of it... might not be enough oxygen level at that height...omg even if this lands ok i don't think the boy will be ok
sorry for o/t


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: MyView on October 15, 2009, 03:08:24 PM
O/T: Anyone watching the odd looking Hot Air Ballon running wild in Colorado with a six year old boy aboard? Somehow the child sneaked into the carry basket.

Yes!I came over to see if you guys are watching this.   ::MonkeyShocked::

Absolutely terrifying. 
they said there are helicopters flying belowit toshoot it down and are speculating that if it higher then helicopters can fly that it is 7 degrees at that height and the news helicopters ave lost sight of it... might not be enough oxygen level at that height...omg even if this lands ok i don't think the boy will be ok
sorry for o/t
They've estimated the altitude is about 7,500 to 8,500 feet.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:10:53 PM
O/T: Anyone watching the odd looking Hot Air Ballon running wild in Colorado with a six year old boy aboard? Somehow the child sneaked into the carry basket.

Yes!I came over to see if you guys are watching this.   ::MonkeyShocked::

Absolutely terrifying. 
they said there are helicopters flying belowit toshoot it down and are speculating that if it higher then helicopters can fly that it is 7 degrees at that height and the news helicopters ave lost sight of it... might not be enough oxygen level at that height...omg even if this lands ok i don't think the boy will be ok
sorry for o/t
They've estimated the altitude is about 7,500 to 8,500 feet.
right but they were unsure if that was sea or land level sothe newscaster/weather guy said if the choppers are sofar below because they can't get higher then it was 7 degrees or less and they have nowl ost sight of it... it was live with a delay in case of crash but now they are showing phootage captured earlier today


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 15, 2009, 03:10:55 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/modlock5.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:13:37 PM
now they don't even know if the boy is in it still... saying he might have fallen out early on....
great reporting


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
HLN reporting that unconfirmed concerned that the 6 yr old may have fallen out of the helium balloon. 

Repeat Unconfirmed


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 03:17:21 PM
O/T: Anyone watching the odd looking Hot Air Ballon running wild in Colorado with a six year old boy aboard? Somehow the child sneaked into the carry basket.

Yes!I came over to see if you guys are watching this.   ::MonkeyShocked::

Absolutely terrifying. 
Reporting that the area of the balloon that the 6 yr old would be is small and not very secure.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:19:03 PM
HLN reporting that unconfirmed concerned that the 6 yr old may have fallen out of the helium balloon. 

Repeat Unconfirmed
i am freaking out now... i think they said the boy's name is falcon...
if he did fall out (i reallly reallly hope he didn't) how would they ever find his remains...
i'm sorry guys i know this is o/t and sorry i'm being dismal on it too but i don't see how this could end good


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:20:55 PM
HLN reporting that unconfirmed concerned that the 6 yr old may have fallen out of the helium balloon. 

Repeat Unconfirmed
they are basing that on his sibling seeing the door being open and the fact that it is flying crooked instead of straight


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 15, 2009, 03:21:03 PM
http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23balloon

covering the balloon story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 15, 2009, 03:22:43 PM
Lisa Croslin in Putnam County now:

CROSLIN    LISA    CARMEN    9/10/1969   F   W    09-04237    10/14/2009 3:36:39 PM   

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx

photo:

(http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=59601)

See the benefits of drugging.  Wonder what Misty will look like at 30?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:24:16 PM
i agree with the guy that  it is flinging around toomuch tohave somebody on board .... i hope they are searching the ground right now too ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:25:45 PM
Lisa Croslin in Putnam County now:

CROSLIN    LISA    CARMEN    9/10/1969   F   W    09-04237    10/14/2009 3:36:39 PM   

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx

photo:

(http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=59601)

See the benefits of drugging.  Wonder what Misty will look like at 30?
exactly like that she already has the downward drooping mouth


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 15, 2009, 03:27:15 PM
wow .. appears that Falcon's family was on WifeSwap TV show. (Falcon is the 6 year old boy in the balloon.)

http://abc.go.com/shows/wife-swap/episode-guide/heenemartel/132697



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 15, 2009, 03:31:42 PM
http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23balloon

covering the balloon story

Thanks,Brandi. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:32:29 PM
this is o/t and someone is going to have to tell me to stop... but based on twitter which reported that the boy was on wife swap and based on his name being falcon this is what i found
http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/wife-swap/photos/191895/21


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:33:50 PM
wow .. appears that Falcon's family was on WifeSwap TV show. (Falcon is the 6 year old boy in the balloon.)

http://abc.go.com/shows/wife-swap/episode-guide/heenemartel/132697


aaaaww i amso crying right now... we were thinking the same thing about finding a pic... so cute poor thing


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 03:35:36 PM


That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

Alachua County I believe.

Neves, Theresa Ann
mother of Ronald L. Cummings, paternal grandmother of Haleigh Cummings, bd 3-7-1960, Alachua County SO Dispatcher, lives at 105 Rita Ln Pomona Park, FL, age 48
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4523.msg678560#msg678560



Thank you Heart.

I see that Wyks posted that initially.

Wyks - do you remember where you got that info from?

Not right off the top of my head, no.. sorry.  Am looking in family notes tho, and when I find it, will let ya'll know.  It reads like something I found from a police report, (maybe the first report from that 911 report?).  Or just a compilation of info on TN that we found in research.  That she was a dispatcher for Alachua County SO has been widely reported in the media since those earliest days.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 03:36:44 PM
Thank God, it's down and it was an easy landing.praise God ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:39:58 PM
wow .. appears that Falcon's family was on WifeSwap TV show. (Falcon is the 6 year old boy in the balloon.)

http://abc.go.com/shows/wife-swap/episode-guide/heenemartel/132697


omg the story beneath the pic is so ironic and creepy now... it just landed no boy in it ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 03:40:05 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Pushing the chopper out of airspace, why??????



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 03:40:50 PM
Helium balloon down and no one is in it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 15, 2009, 03:41:21 PM
Now they say the boy fell out somewhere...omg


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 03:45:07 PM
I wonder if he ever eve got it in, I pray not and he's hiding somewhere------------otherwise I'd like to know where the balloon took off, just to check and see if he fell or even jumped out ::MonkeyWaa::

Please let this boy be hiding somewhere, afraid that he did a boo boo and nothing tragic has happened ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 15, 2009, 03:46:46 PM
NG: Talk of Misty having learning disabilities.

From the very earliest, I assumed that Misty was learning disabled, given that she had not completed elementary school.  My most relieable sources say 4th grade, but lately other sources say 6th grade.  Whatever grade it is, she had considerable difficulty comprehending her classwork.  Apparently FL  does not enforce its code regarding mandatory schooling to a certain age.  Nor does it appear to have remedial classes in the area Misty lived.  That's not at all surprizing in sparcely populated areas.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 03:47:02 PM
   ::MonkeyEek:: Hopefully he is hiding in his yard


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 15, 2009, 03:49:12 PM
   ::MonkeyEek:: Hopefully he is hiding in his yard
OMG, someone has to know where this boy is, did his brother actually see him get in the balloon or just thought he did, I hope they find him..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 03:50:03 PM
re the lil 6 yr old boy..

just heard an update on the radio that they are now questioning the family. 

it will be something for sure if this is a new way to report a child missing.  not abducted, just left in a balloon. 

 ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 03:50:36 PM
   ::MonkeyEek:: Hopefully he is hiding in his yard

Or in his closet or under the bed...........we can only pray  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Tina Bee on October 15, 2009, 03:52:47 PM
NG: Talk of Misty having learning disabilities.

From the very earliest, I assumed that Misty was learning disabled, given that she had not completed elementary school.  My most relieable sources say 4th grade, but lately other sources say 6th grade.  Whatever grade it is, she had considerable difficulty comprehending her classwork.  Apparently FL  does not enforce its code regarding mandatory schooling to a certain age.  Nor does it appear to have remedial classes in the area Misty lived.  That's not at all surprizing in sparcely populated areas.

I was watching NG last night and a caller pointed out that Misty didn't even know what 'numerical' meant and obviously she's disabled somehow.

All I can say is dropping out in elementary school is pretty stupid, but I knew a girl who stopped going to school in the 7th grade. It's sad when people short change themselves like that.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
re the lil 6 yr old boy..

just heard an update on the radio that they are now questioning the family. 

it will be something for sure if this is a new way to report a child missing.  not abducted, just left in a balloon. 

 ::MonkeyRoll::

That was my thoughts, I also had some other thoughts, I will wait and see  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: darla on October 15, 2009, 03:53:56 PM
The utter stupidity of some parents just never ceases to amaze me. What sane , responsible parent would have this in their backyard?


Forgot my manners....Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 15, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
Some youtube videos of the boys and family:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBWJXXgaYBo&feature=player_embedded#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTqpY-wprSE&feature=player_embedded#

I am sure there are many more out there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 03:54:11 PM
NG: Talk of Misty having learning disabilities.

From the very earliest, I assumed that Misty was learning disabled, given that she had not completed elementary school.  My most relieable sources say 4th grade, but lately other sources say 6th grade.  Whatever grade it is, she had considerable difficulty comprehending her classwork.  Apparently FL  does not enforce its code regarding mandatory schooling to a certain age.  Nor does it appear to have remedial classes in the area Misty lived.  That's not at all surprizing in sparcely populated areas.

There was talk earlier on about Misty having learning disabilities, that her grandma would help her, etc.  This certainly isn't 'bombshell' news for NG.  More like filler for her shows while she waits for something else to develop. 

Wonder if 'balloon boy' is going to pre-empt the Croslin-Cummings hour on NG?   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 03:55:46 PM
re the lil 6 yr old boy..

just heard an update on the radio that they are now questioning the family. 

it will be something for sure if this is a new way to report a child missing.  not abducted, just left in a balloon. 

 ::MonkeyRoll::




OMG, don't even go there or that will be Misty's next story, either that or the spaceship came and go up :smt079


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 03:56:57 PM
tmz the website is reporting how they heard via police scanner that the boy was nt in balloon.... is anyone here from colorado... any idea where i can listen to the police scanner?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 03:57:26 PM
re the lil 6 yr old boy..

just heard an update on the radio that they are now questioning the family. 

it will be something for sure if this is a new way to report a child missing.  not abducted, just left in a balloon. 

 ::MonkeyRoll::




OMG, don't even go there or that will be Misty's next story, either that or the spaceship came and go up :smt079

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Brandi on October 15, 2009, 03:58:45 PM
tmz the website is reporting how they heard via police scanner that the boy was nt in balloon.... is anyone here from colorado... any idea where i can listen to the police scanner?

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?stid=8


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 03:58:48 PM
The utter stupidity of some parents just never ceases to amaze me. What sane , responsible parent would have this in their backyard?


Forgot my manners....Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

Amen, irresponsible ones.......you have to take 2 test to get a driver's license but nothing to have a child, what nit-wits! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 03:59:09 PM
tmz the website is reporting how they heard via police scanner that the boy was nt in balloon.... is anyone here from colorado... any idea where i can listen to the police scanner?

I doubt you'll hear much over the scanner, cuz it's been reported that LE is already back over to the boy's house, questioning his family members.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Tina Bee on October 15, 2009, 03:59:13 PM
OT: Boy in balloon

I hope he's found safely.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
The utter stupidity of some parents just never ceases to amaze me. What sane , responsible parent would have this in their backyard?


Forgot my manners....Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!
Good Afternoon  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'm wondering if this is a scam of somekind  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 15, 2009, 04:02:23 PM
tmz the website is reporting how they heard via police scanner that the boy was nt in balloon.... is anyone here from colorado... any idea where i can listen to the police scanner?

I doubt you'll hear much over the scanner, cuz it's been reported that LE is already back over to the boy's house, questioning his family members.


Maybe he got where he was suppose to be living mixed up and went to the other wifes house, since his father swaped wives, mabe he went to live with that one.......ok, just kidding.... ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 04:04:11 PM
tmz the website is reporting how they heard via police scanner that the boy was nt in balloon.... is anyone here from colorado... any idea where i can listen to the police scanner?

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?stid=8
someone is reporting seeing it around and north of 28... saw it go by but nothing fell out...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on October 15, 2009, 04:04:15 PM
well, now we know what will be on NG tonight...I hope they find him soon...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 04:08:12 PM
tmz the website is reporting how they heard via police scanner that the boy was nt in balloon.... is anyone here from colorado... any idea where i can listen to the police scanner?

I doubt you'll hear much over the scanner, cuz it's been reported that LE is already back over to the boy's house, questioning his family members.


i can hear plenty they are actively searching everywhere and figuring out a flight path it sounds like... who says they are questioning the family... i don't think there is anything nefarious going on here


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 04:09:12 PM
tmz the website is reporting how they heard via police scanner that the boy was nt in balloon.... is anyone here from colorado... any idea where i can listen to the police scanner?

I doubt you'll hear much over the scanner, cuz it's been reported that LE is already back over to the boy's house, questioning his family members.



 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm ashamed to even say this, but could this be a hoax????????  this family has been on tv before, and wel......I think the family was the one that called the media to get the helicpoter's up.........sad that it even crossed my mind, but it did.

Here is his pic, he's in the middle


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 04:12:26 PM
OT: Boy in balloon

I hope he's found safely.

I do too, Tina.  It's amazing how much of America and beyond was watching this play out.  Kind of reminded me of when that little girl (Jessica?) fell into that hole/well.   

This lil boy may have just been out back playing around with the balloon, accidentally untethered it, and could be hiding so as not to get in trouble.  In which case, someone is gonna be sitting in a corner for awhile.  grounded for life.  something. 

All I'd care is to have him back alive.   I'd hug him and not let go.  Might take a couple of hours to figure out a good consequence for having NORAD involved to the point of orders to stand down.  ha! 

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Brandi on October 15, 2009, 04:13:41 PM
Is there a MP thread for Falcon yet?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 04:14:06 PM
tmz the website is reporting how they heard via police scanner that the boy was nt in balloon.... is anyone here from colorado... any idea where i can listen to the police scanner?

I doubt you'll hear much over the scanner, cuz it's been reported that LE is already back over to the boy's house, questioning his family members.



 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm ashamed to even say this, but could this be a hoax????????  this family has been on tv before, and wel......I think the family was the one that called the media to get the helicpoter's up.........sad that it even crossed my mind, but it did.

Here is his pic, he's in the middle
tv wannabes maybe but i don't tink they are stupid enough to use a missing child as a ploy to get media... these are educated people very involved in their work i'm sure they could figure out what kind of a bill they would get for wasting government resources not to mention jail time


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
tmz the website is reporting how they heard via police scanner that the boy was nt in balloon.... is anyone here from colorado... any idea where i can listen to the police scanner?

I doubt you'll hear much over the scanner, cuz it's been reported that LE is already back over to the boy's house, questioning his family members.



 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm ashamed to even say this, but could this be a hoax????????  this family has been on tv before, and wel......I think the family was the one that called the media to get the helicpoter's up.........sad that it even crossed my mind, but it did.

Here is his pic, he's in the middle
That was the first thing I thought when I turned on the tv, I have no idea, I sure hope not, but at the same time I hope so, so the kid is okay  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 04:15:22 PM
Is there a MP thread for Falcon yet?


not sure but i think there should be .... one way or another this kid is missing as of now


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Brandi on October 15, 2009, 04:15:35 PM
Is there a MP thread for Falcon yet?



Oh good! Answered my own question. Edward started one: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6287.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 04:17:51 PM
tmz the website is reporting how they heard via police scanner that the boy was nt in balloon.... is anyone here from colorado... any idea where i can listen to the police scanner?

I doubt you'll hear much over the scanner, cuz it's been reported that LE is already back over to the boy's house, questioning his family members.



 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm ashamed to even say this, but could this be a hoax????????  this family has been on tv before, and wel......I think the family was the one that called the media to get the helicpoter's up.........sad that it even crossed my mind, but it did.

Here is his pic, he's in the middle
That was the first thing I thought when I turned on the tv, I have no idea, I sure hope not, but at the same time I hope so, so the kid is okay  ::MonkeyConfused::

Exactly, I have watched and prayed, but then when I read about all the tv stuff etc, it did make my mind go ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

No matter what, I pray this child is safe and found quickly ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: penny for your thoughts on October 15, 2009, 04:19:23 PM
Is there a MP thread for Falcon yet?



Oh good! Answered my own question. Edward started one: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6287.0
thanks again brandi... bbl guys


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: strayze on October 15, 2009, 04:21:14 PM
Okay,  I'm all alone here again!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


You are not alone 04Bull!
ah, thanks Heart!  I was beginning to feel like the thread killer. LOL

What do you mean the wizard?  :)

Do you think that TM came up with that little Donna Mamma thing all by himself.

I don't.

Who do you think was behind obtaining the Voice analysis guy, and the hypnotist.  I don't think it was TM idea.

TM is just the  man in the middle, but I hope that he does not get caught up as NG stated.

I did hear it said after Misty's polygraph and hynosis that TM is carrying out things that his boss legally cannot and/or should not.  More or less a civilian can where a legal person cannot.
 
I thought that's what you meant, but I didn't know for sure.  I agree and I also think MN may have helped fund it too.  I think he got a little taste of the A's and he doesn't want to see a repeat with misty (ie...casey).  JMO
Totally agree. I had included the funding as well in my post to you at first but erased it  and phrased it differently.

While watching the second showing of NG, AH and MN appear somewhat not so straight forward with their responses to Nancy's questions.

Also AH screwed up when he told Nancy that Donna and Misty was the victims in the road rage incident.  Will Courtney Ballinger come out and defend herself now  ::MonkeyHaHa::

What is it that they say about weaving and deceiving    ::MonkeyShocked::


Courtney is related to Seph Watt, the reporter who reported on the road rage incident.   Was Seph drumming up business through Courtney?  The posting of Steph Watt's relatives was made earlier on Scared Monkeys.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 15, 2009, 04:24:08 PM
Is there a MP thread for Falcon yet?



Oh good! Answered my own question. Edward started one: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6287.0

Thanks,Brandi.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 04:26:51 PM
Well ya know, NG tapes her shows so much, she may not even have anything about 'balloon boy' tonight.  She often doesn't have the current 'breaking news', not even for several days time.  Seems her producers are too busy splicing old shows, old news, old interviews, and putting new shows together with old stuff to pay attention to what is actually breaking at the moment. 

I'm just real disappointed in JVM, who seems to be patterning herself after NG.  IMO, Jane could have gone a different route with her show, and been truly an asset in the media for the missing. 

Hope I'm wrong tho, it just all seems that way to me. 

Those producers really need to start reading our threads for the current news to broadcast!   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 15, 2009, 04:34:54 PM
I was going to hang out 4 the lock, but it is going too slow  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2009, 04:36:27 PM
I was going to hang out 4 the lock, but it is going too slow  ::MonkeyWaa::

Hi Nut  ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 04:36:54 PM
I was going to hang out 4 the lock, but it is going too slow  ::MonkeyWaa::
::MonkeyBikeYorkie::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 04:39:39 PM
Now HLN is talking to a hostage negotiator on how to confront and talk to Falcon's brother in order to get information on what occurred.

I had to laugh about that because the only hostage negotiator my little a$$ would have got would have been 3 switches plated together.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 04:39:41 PM

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Haleigh/HaleighCummings.jpg)




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2009, 04:41:38 PM

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Haleigh/HaleighCummings.jpg)




Beautiful pic of Haleigh, Wyks.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2009, 04:43:30 PM
Now HLN is talking to a hostage negotiator on how to confront and talk to Falcon's brother in order to get information on what occurred.

I had to laugh about that because the only hostage negotiator my little a$$ would have got would have been 3 switches plated together.

I know what you mean, Heart.  But maybe something happened, like the boys were fooling around and something happened.  The brother may be too afraid of what might happen if he tells, I don't know. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 04:44:45 PM
Okay,  I'm all alone here again!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


You are not alone 04Bull!
ah, thanks Heart!  I was beginning to feel like the thread killer. LOL

What do you mean the wizard?  :)

Do you think that TM came up with that little Donna Mamma thing all by himself.

I don't.

Who do you think was behind obtaining the Voice analysis guy, and the hypnotist.  I don't think it was TM idea.

TM is just the  man in the middle, but I hope that he does not get caught up as NG stated.

I did hear it said after Misty's polygraph and hynosis that TM is carrying out things that his boss legally cannot and/or should not.  More or less a civilian can where a legal person cannot.
 
I thought that's what you meant, but I didn't know for sure.  I agree and I also think MN may have helped fund it too.  I think he got a little taste of the A's and he doesn't want to see a repeat with misty (ie...casey).  JMO
Totally agree. I had included the funding as well in my post to you at first but erased it  and phrased it differently.

While watching the second showing of NG, AH and MN appear somewhat not so straight forward with their responses to Nancy's questions.

Also AH screwed up when he told Nancy that Donna and Misty was the victims in the road rage incident.  Will Courtney Ballinger come out and defend herself now  ::MonkeyHaHa::

What is it that they say about weaving and deceiving    ::MonkeyShocked::


Courtney is related to Seph Watt, the reporter who reported on the road rage incident.   Was Seph drumming up business through Courtney?  The posting of Steph Watt's relatives was made earlier on Scared Monkeys.

Just for you Nut, I didn't shorten the quote stack.   ::MonkeyWink::

Am thinking of how weird it is that Courtney ends up being related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  Kind of shoots the integrity of Steph all to bits for me.   

So was this media making media happen so media could cover it first?  Isn't/shouldn't there be a law against that?   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 04:45:38 PM
Thanks Muffy, my favorite pic of Haleigh. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: jen3560 on October 15, 2009, 04:46:28 PM


That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

Alachua County I believe.

Neves, Theresa Ann
mother of Ronald L. Cummings, paternal grandmother of Haleigh Cummings, bd 3-7-1960, Alachua County SO Dispatcher, lives at 105 Rita Ln Pomona Park, FL, age 48
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4523.msg678560#msg678560



Thank you Heart.

I see that Wyks posted that initially.

Wyks - do you remember where you got that info from?

Not right off the top of my head, no.. sorry.  Am looking in family notes tho, and when I find it, will let ya'll know.  It reads like something I found from a police report, (maybe the first report from that 911 report?).  Or just a compilation of info on TN that we found in research.  That she was a dispatcher for Alachua County SO has been widely reported in the media since those earliest days.



Thanks for looking Wyks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2009, 04:48:27 PM
It doesn't matter how much space  a post takes, there are still 20 posts to a page... But that was a nice gesture, Wyks  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Heart on October 15, 2009, 04:48:32 PM
Now it is being reported that there was a box attached to the bottom of the balloon that is no longer there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 04:50:23 PM
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Tina Bee on October 15, 2009, 04:50:35 PM
OT: Boy in balloon

I hope he's found safely.

I do too, Tina.  It's amazing how much of America and beyond was watching this play out.  Kind of reminded me of when that little girl (Jessica?) fell into that hole/well.   

This lil boy may have just been out back playing around with the balloon, accidentally untethered it, and could be hiding so as not to get in trouble.  In which case, someone is gonna be sitting in a corner for awhile.  grounded for life.  something. 

All I'd care is to have him back alive.   I'd hug him and not let go.  Might take a couple of hours to figure out a good consequence for having NORAD involved to the point of orders to stand down.  ha! 

 

There was a box attached to the balloon when it took off, but it wasn't there when the balloon landed. The box is what the 6-year-old would have been inside of. This does NOT look good. I hope he's found.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 04:51:04 PM
Now it is being reported that there was a box attached to the bottom of the balloon that is no longer there.
I just heard that also  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 04:53:51 PM


That brings up a question I've had for some time.  Ronald's mother was (is?) a dispatcher for LE, but we keep getting told it's not for Satsuma.

have we been told what County she dispatched for?

Alachua County I believe.

Neves, Theresa Ann
mother of Ronald L. Cummings, paternal grandmother of Haleigh Cummings, bd 3-7-1960, Alachua County SO Dispatcher, lives at 105 Rita Ln Pomona Park, FL, age 48
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4523.msg678560#msg678560



Thank you Heart.

I see that Wyks posted that initially.

Wyks - do you remember where you got that info from?

Not right off the top of my head, no.. sorry.  Am looking in family notes tho, and when I find it, will let ya'll know.  It reads like something I found from a police report, (maybe the first report from that 911 report?).  Or just a compilation of info on TN that we found in research.  That she was a dispatcher for Alachua County SO has been widely reported in the media since those earliest days.



Thanks for looking Wyks!

You're welcome, Jen!  Just wish I could find the source for that info.  Usually am pretty good at hanging on to those links.  Figures the one I need..........    ::MonkeyHaHa::

Have thought from the beginning how weird it seemed that in her haste to get over there, TN has the presence of thought to grab that 8x10 glossy of Haleigh, as well as her LE jacket.  LOLOL..   

Of course, the jacket could have been lying nearby with her purse/keys etc.  Especially if she had just gotten off work or something. 

But I do think being an SO dispatch, even in another county in FL, may either have given TN 'an edge'.. or maybe made her think it would. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 15, 2009, 04:54:00 PM
I was going to hang out 4 the lock, but it is going too slow  ::MonkeyWaa::

Hi Nut  ::MonkeySlide::

HI! LOL!  ::MonkeySkate:: Sorry bout not being arouns much...been buttoning up house for winter ACKKKK


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 04:54:02 PM
 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 04:57:19 PM
 ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on October 15, 2009, 04:58:17 PM
 Beautiful pics IM  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 04:58:29 PM
::MonkeyCheer4::
::MonkeyShocked::

Sorry~wrong photo........that is my window treatment fabric, not a photo of Haleigh ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 15, 2009, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: higherhopes link=
well, now we know what will be on NG tonight...I hope they find him soon...
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Hey HH ~  I found this new pic of NG if you wanna use it .....

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/NG6.jpg)


Helping to P U S H to  100      ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 04:59:13 PM
It doesn't matter how much space  a post takes, there are still 20 posts to a page... But that was a nice gesture, Wyks  ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks!   And..  oh darn...  ::MonkeyJnBox::   

I could just jump on the beds!   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

But that always bring Klaas running with her clipboard, takin names.  heheheeeee...

so I won't do that.   ::MonkeyKiss::



 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 04:59:43 PM
::MonkeyCheer4::

 ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks, although one is the beach, the other is just freaking fabric....my bad! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 05:00:25 PM
::MonkeyCheer4::
::MonkeyShocked::

Sorry~wrong photo........that is my window treatment fabric, not a photo of Haleigh ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 

Interesting tho, IM! 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 15, 2009, 05:00:42 PM
::MonkeyCheer4::
::MonkeyShocked::

Sorry~wrong photo........that is my window treatment fabric, not a photo of Haleigh ::MonkeyDevil::


LMAO --- and I messed up my quote to HH in a big way !!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
::MonkeyCheer4::
::MonkeyShocked::

Sorry~wrong photo........that is my window treatment fabric, not a photo of Haleigh ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 

Interesting tho, IM! 



 ::MonkeyBike::  LMAO............well, at leat it wasn't a pic of my car with my license tag showing ::MonkeyWink:: would hate for anyone to track me down more than they already do ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 15, 2009, 05:02:30 PM
(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/crystalhaleigh.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 05:02:33 PM
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/monkey%20fun/monkeysworking.jpg)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: islandmonkey on October 15, 2009, 05:03:24 PM
::MonkeyCheer4::
::MonkeyShocked::

Sorry~wrong photo........that is my window treatment fabric, not a photo of Haleigh ::MonkeyDevil::


LMAO --- and I messed up my quote to HH in a big way !!   ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyTease:: Just trying to get to the next thread and praying she Haleigh will be found before we start the one after it ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 15, 2009, 05:03:56 PM


 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 05:04:25 PM
::MonkeyCheer4::
::MonkeyShocked::

Sorry~wrong photo........that is my window treatment fabric, not a photo of Haleigh ::MonkeyDevil::


LMAO --- and I messed up my quote to HH in a big way !!   ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyTease:: Just trying to get to the next thread and praying she Haleigh will be found before we start the one after it ::MonkeyAngel::

Praying that happens too, IM. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 15, 2009, 05:05:09 PM
::MonkeyCheer4::
::MonkeyShocked::

Sorry~wrong photo........that is my window treatment fabric, not a photo of Haleigh ::MonkeyDevil::


LMAO --- and I messed up my quote to HH in a big way !!   ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyTease:: Just trying to get to the next thread and praying she Haleigh will be found before we start the one after it ::MonkeyAngel::

yep, I'm trying to find my PUSH sign


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 05:05:40 PM


 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::

If you squint your eyes, those kinda do look like your motorcycle, BG!  lol



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 05:07:18 PM
Get ready, we're nearly there!! 

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/monkey%20fun/monkeywatching.jpg)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 15, 2009, 05:07:34 PM


 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::

If you squint your eyes, those kinda do look like your motorcycle, BG!  lol



 ::MonkeyShocked::    ::MonkeyTease::

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/gifs/sassydance.gif)(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/gifs/sassydance.gif)(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/gifs/sassydance.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 15, 2009, 05:08:39 PM
wow going fast now  Muffy....are you doing it or me? lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 05:08:46 PM


 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::

If you squint your eyes, those kinda do look like your motorcycle, BG!  lol



 ::MonkeyShocked::    ::MonkeyTease::

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/gifs/sassydance.gif)(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/gifs/sassydance.gif)(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/gifs/sassydance.gif)

 ::MonkeyKiss::    ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2009, 05:09:39 PM
 ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 15, 2009, 05:10:09 PM
(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/gifs/laughingmonkeys.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Wyks on October 15, 2009, 05:10:16 PM
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/zMisc/dancinggranny.gif)  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/zMisc/dancinggranny.gif)  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/zMisc/dancinggranny.gif)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2009, 05:10:21 PM
wow going fast now  Muffy....are you doing it or me? lol

Team work  ::Baseball::  It's the whole cage! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2009, 05:10:58 PM
wow going fast now  Muffy....are you doing it or me? lol

Team work  ::Baseball::  It's the whole cage! 

Go for it, Nut!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Bud's Girl on October 15, 2009, 05:11:15 PM


 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::

If you squint your eyes, those kinda do look like your motorcycle, BG!  lol



 ::MonkeyShocked::    ::MonkeyTease::

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/gifs/sassydance.gif)(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/gifs/sassydance.gif)(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/gifs/sassydance.gif)

 ::MonkeyKiss::    ::MonkeyCool::


::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 15, 2009, 05:11:49 PM
 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyFootball:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyDevil2:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 15, 2009, 05:12:08 PM
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