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Let's hope 2007 brings Justice for Natalee

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I beat robots 8)  :lol:

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I worked so hard to be #3. :lol:

Okay, I'm off to buy flowers. No matter how fast I go, though, Klaas will still beat me back.  :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  Too funny Tyler.

I loved your last photo also.

I left you a message on the last thread but it locked, I think it's there but don't know for sure --, geesh, I'm always a step behind.

Start counting :lol:

Tyler,  what did you tell us last year about banana peels and roses?  Thanks!

Ok ,Monkeys,a question"what do frogs and the Darwin awards have in common."Cuz should know this.Anyone want the hog when I win it.And last question,why do we care where JR is.Let sleeping dogs lie in their fleas,with the pink loose,around them.

And the Dutch didn't have time to "swing by" the Fisherman's Huts on their way to the beach bar oh, say, mid-week?  I mean, how time-consuming could that be?  I guess if Natalee was ever buried there, it might involve taking soil samples, which may have slowed them down by a day or two.

Why is it that their review of the interrogation transcripts doesn't lead them to conclude that the law was not followed in terms of asking follow-up question to non-answers - and when WILL they have the authority to haul all these characters back in for complete questioning?  It's OBVIOUS that professional interrogations were never completed with each of these suspects.

Coffee grounds and egg shells are good for roses here,along with at least a little rain.

Are we sure the Dutch haven't swung by and are we sure she was there.I would have gone by the rocks and the grave site,

Tyler-That is a pretty little boy then-LOL...I was going to say she'd be a perfect match for my grandson before you told me she was a he. :lol:

http://www.debestseller60.nl/bs/index.html

Not on the top 60. Week 18, two weeks ago, was # 39 in Holland. Note: They have a much smaller market than the US. so actual sales are not known. Must have been a one spike then nada.
Probably being used for bird cage lining by the persons who did fork over Euros for this crapola after they looked at it.  
I am going to look at Ebay and see if there is anything there related to his book.

Yes, me too.  Well, if they did, where were the Diario reporters?  They seemed to be right on the scene with Sloot & Kalpoe visits.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I will give the Dutch the benefit of the doubt.

I want them to do it right this time, don't know if that is possible at this late date.

I would imagine with all the lies, the disappearing statements, cover up, IF there is an honest person on that place they will need a huge wall to display all the documents and then start weeding it out to find the truth, if that is even possible.

Having said that, they have my support and prayers.

I do feel the truth does come out eventually, it always does.

It is difficult after all this time to be patient, but for Natalee and her family we must.

Just hope JVDS keeps talking....

Well time to go,

OS out

i wasnt trying


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maybe they don't need proof of death at the rocks,just proof from the ditch.

Thank you very much.  That is my #3 grandson.  I had three sons, one son each had one son, so I have three sons and three grandsons.  This is the baby one.  He looks just like his daddy when he was that age and many peope think he looks like his like me (but he has his grandaddy's eyes).  

I thank you so much.  We think he is beautiful but we are a little bit prejudiced. :lol:

Back :lol:

Save all that you can and just put them in the beds.  They will deteriorate and they add a lot of potassium.  I actually throw all my peach peels, banana peels, orange peels, etc., into the beds with all the coffee grounds I can get from Starbuck's, Cracker Barrel, etc.  I take 5-gallon buckets to them to save for me and pick them up and replace the containers once a week.  Nothing worms love better than coffee and they work the soil to keep it friable and the veggies and fruit add nutrients to the soil.

If you like you can just save them up in a place with a cover on them until the end of the week and then spread them around in the rose beds.  You will be surprised how quickly they will decompose and become great soil.

You can put anything edible in your garden except meat and dairy products.  The reason not to do this is because it is hard to break down and causes things you might not want to come to your garden.  Plus anything with meat or rish will lure snakes and rats as will dairy products.  You can add liquid kelp, seaweed or fish emulsion to the garden, however, without the risk of critters.

Oh, thank you.  I realized after I did it, I had boo-boo'd and thanks to GEL or Klaas, whomever fixed it.  I appreciate it.  

Right now I have a lot of clematis blooming.  I need to take pictures.  I have about 35.

Tylergal,
Your roses are just beautiful- I am enjoying the pictures.

What is the name of the peach rose recommended by your attorney friend?
I love it.

Also, any tips on getting your verbena to grow that luscious?  Mine are always a little scraggly.

Dana Pretzer Show Tonight 8pm et … TES Fundraiser … Mission For the Missing … “Hogs & Horses”

Tonight at 8pm eastern, Dana Pretzer will be interviewing many from the Texas EquuSearch fundraiser, “Mission for the Missing”, Hogs & Horses event.

Hogs & Horses Fundraiser being held on Saturday, May 19, 2007  at the Galveston County Fairgrounds, Ed Pickett Hall, 10 Jack Brooks Park in Hitchcock, TX, 1pm – 11pm

There will be numerous interviews of the many that attend including TES members and families whose lives have been affected by the loss of a loved one. Tim Miller and Dave Holloway will be just a couple of Dana’s guests this evening. We are also trying to line up Drew Kesse where there has been some movement in his missing daugter Jennifer’s case. Be sure to listen to a special Dana Pretzer show this evening. Dana will be taking phone calls through out the show.

hey Annie,maybe they didn't want press for other visits,you keeping guessing that way.

I'm back too, but you beat me by at least 30 minutes. I knew you would!  :lol:

Either Klaasend lives above the store -- or she has a jetpack!  :wink:

The store and the bank are about 1 mile away.  I'm really quick in the store though.  This time I took longer than expected because I ran into a friend in the store, lol  :lol:

Hi Guys! Just peeking in quickly. I'm doing "chores" today.

Wow, thanks!  I'm in and out... babysitting the 2 yr old who is napping.  (yeah) Just saw this post and I appreciate it.

Does this concoction work on all flowers or just roses?  Tea roses only or also the new easier to care for variety (I forget their classification)?

Wish you were closer - I could learn a ton.  Again, thanks.

profiler @ BFN posted this:

my source tell me pvs was taken to holland for questioning....any confirmation on this?

WOW! (hope it's true -- but seems unlikely)

Yeah it does,but hope it's true too.

sloots are going down

down down down

BET IT ALL

You would think he would have to be ARRESTED in Aruba first -- then transported. Why would they take him to Holland anyway? (unless they were going to hold BOTH Joran AND Paulus).

Wishful thinking again: maybe they have uncovered the corruption in the Aruban judiciary and will move ALL proceedings to Holland!  :roll:

the whole family will be in holland soon

NOT safe in ARUBA

 8)

Not safe from who? Their own country men? As far as I can tell -- they are still National heros there!!  :twisted:

when the DUTCH reveal what is coming

PAULUS and family will be wanted by everyone on the ISLAND for "WRECKING" the TOURISM

I resemble that remark!

ok, where is everyone

Wow, I slip away for a bit and I see this!  :lol:

Hiya Monkeys

Oh how I wish it were true that Paulypuss was taken to Holland for questioning.

I'm here!  Took a little nap so I can be ready for tonight, lol  :lol:

I don't think there's anything to it,but I wish it were.

I don't know much about Profiler, does he/she BS often?   :lol:

I am bringing forward this post from BUCKEYE from the last thread as I feel it is important.  


Anna and all

Satish didn't necessarily say "they will find her". Joran says he did....after having said that Deepak said that.

Joran's June 14th statement:
When I was sitting in the car I told Deepak that the girl was laying on the beach and that she was being annoying/irritating because she didn't want to go back to her hotel. Deepak asked me if I fucked her. I answered Deepak that I didn't because I didn't have a condom on me. Deepak also asked me what I was going to do with her. I had said to Deepak that she didn't want to go back to her hotel. I even told her that I lifted her up but that she didn't want me to bring her back to her hotel. Then Deepak said to me "don't f*** with that bitch" * that they will find her tomorrow on the beach.

She's annoying. He's afraid she'll chase him if they don't speed away...yet....he doesn't put the words into Deepak's mouth that "she can just walk back" or "she can sit there all night"....nope...he says (that one or the other brother says) "they will find her tomorrow"....not even "she'll wake up with the sun"..

Then you have a couple lines from Anita:

"Stay away from the Marriott".
I think Natalee was originally left somewhere around there. Anita knew the cleanup team had moved her and I think she was warning them to not be nosey...or not to look for the shoe because someone would see them.

for Tyler and all:
"There were adults there".
I have always felt that she was driving this point home to the K2. I am sure she and PVDS stressed to K2, their adult status and how much trouble they would be in.

Im here.
 :)

I don't know that much about him/her either,so I couldn't say.

And this from ADORONRON that I think is also worthy of re-reading and for those who missed it.  Some of do not seem to read back very far and miss so many of the insightful posts, I thought it worthwhile to track these two down and repost them.  

Tylergal wrote:
I think Deepak said in the back of the police vehicle that everything they had done was for Joran and then Joran mentions to him the attorneys that Paulus has employed, so it might be that some way of other Paulus has all the evidence that Deepak has and Paulus was the one who ensured an automobile transfer to go for investigation, telling Deepak all along that it did not matter who committed the crime, that he was the adult who had a young tourist girl in his car and that whatever went wrong, Deepak was responsible and further intimidating and coercing Deepak to the point that he was frightened into turning over any/everything to Freddy on Paulus' behalf or for Anita. Perhaps Paulus threatened them with deportation or is there something that Nadira has done that is illegal that she was fired for and that Paulus is privy to but is a well-guarded secret and maybe Paulus is one of the few who knows it and/or has and will protect her. I can see these boys doing this for their mother. If you understand Indian culture, then the #1 son is responsible for his mother, his siblings when the father is absent.

I am beginning to beileve Deepak has nothing over Joran and that Paulus and Joran have intimidated their "slaves" into believing that Paulus and Joran, perhaps in collusion with Freddy and Guido could can the K2. The K2 are not in the same social league as the others; therefore, it would be easy in a country such as Aruba where there is obviously no form of justice to pin everything on them as it was about to be done to Mickey John & Abraham Jones.


Hi Monkeys.

I got back from a short vacation a few days ago and it has taken a while to catch up.
That was an interesting discussion you all had last night on the possible reasons 2K have not talked.
I was going to throw some of my opinion on this 2K silence out a while back but hesitated because it seems when I do express my opinions it causes some controversy and a bit of infighting, which is not my intention. The last time I spoke up I shared my opinion on the um… er…..um……..the size 14 footwear.

Anyway here’s my take on the 2K silence.

This statement by joran; “If they find the girl, then they will see that/the shit” was not referencing physical evidence on Natalee that would incriminate 2K. It is instead a warning from joran to 2K letting them know, that if the real truth comes out, some sort of dirt joran and paulus have on 2K will be made public. I think included in the ‘dirt’ are pics/videos of depak having his way with Natalee.
Depak calls someone and says she had her hand in his pants, etc.. Later he claims he said that to throw the investigation off course. BS BS BS. When the cops let him know they were aware of that phone conversation he came up with the ‘throw the investigation off course’ lie.
It’s possible the ‘I hit the jackpot’ phone call joran references during their police car back seat conversation is a call depak made letting someone know he is going to make some money with the pics/video.
Paulus went to Fla to ensure any and all pics/videos from that night, and any other pics/videos from prior escapades were completey removed from porn web sites, wiped from the internet, and he obtained any and all pics/videos containing depak. Paulus has that ‘dirt’ stashed somewhere off the island. While the security guards were in jail, Paulus lets depak know that he already has, or soon will have, the ‘dirt’ on depak, that all ‘dirt on any others involved has already been, or will be completey eliminated, that the only pics/videos left are those showing depak. “if they find the girl, they will see that/the shit”.

When depak says “freddy needs to tell the truth”, he (depak) at that point in time thinks the beach story is the truth. It’s not. But, freddy, I believe, knows the real truth and did early on.

I have a hunch who Meneses is. Need to check a few more things out first before I settle on this individual.

I have about five hours of grass mowing to do today. Five acres of yard that grew quite a bit while we were on vacation. So, I won’t be back checking in here for quite a while. I don’t like dropping my opinions off like this and appearing to run off, but I’m busy with this that and the other all the time.

Ado



So now I can't wait to hear his hunch about who Meneses might be.  I am guessing a bartender as we have zilch from them although they had to have been involved if only as observers of the perps and their MO.

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Hey Dana- Looks like tonight's show might be one of the best ever. You really out did yourself on this one.

I can hardly wait.  

Don't forget to ask where's Renfro.... or not. :lol:

Profiler a difficult read but, IMO, does know people on Aruba. It is believable that he was told that Paulus is being questioned but as to whether it is true or not...

The story needs to be tightened up a bit.

Check this "hole" that this lady fell into in Aruba.  Wonder where it is?  Looks like she's going to be OK from what I could translate:

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/668/5/

(http://www.24ora.com/images/stories/news/mei2007/mei%2013%20-%20mei%2020/pos05.jpg)

Red deserves a great deal of credit, he is my roving reporter there.

yea, Red is alright


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 :lol:  8)

Yeah, I looking all over for any other mention.

Igs,

Is Profiler sort of semi-ProSloot?

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IMO...no.

Hi Anna! Dig up the pool! :lol:

Is that Julia Renfro.  Is she in the Sloot back yard.

Igs,
Yep, that's the word!  Dig up that pool!  Until that is done, I am just not impressed with KLPD's methods and sources.

 :wink:

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LOL@ San!  That would explain her absence!

Maybe Paulus took off for the Netherlands on his own to tell Sporter to stick a sock in it?

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Red wears many hats. Kudos to Red for helping put this all together.

Looks like an info packed show....me likes  :P

BTW Red- awesome front pages recently. I and others can see how hard you have been working on them. Now we all know why Mrs. Red can't find you...your working on those front pages.  :lol:

When I call in to Dana, people make fun of what they perceive as my "accent" so maybe those fortunate enough not to have one will call tonight.

 :evil:

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I just want to hear Tibro's accent... you sound like a female Dayhiker...LMAO!!!  :lol:  :lol:

You'd love what Angie and I sound like!!!! People say Pittsburgher's have a certain colloquialism....LOL

So Dana will be on at 8 EST or 7 Central time?

Better finish up chores so I will be ready to listen to this very important program.

Klaas, will you list the known interviewees again.  I think I remember but am not positive I have all of them.

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Good try Anna but you are not getting away without calling.  You are our pro and you have to call :smt059

This is on the front page.  Not sure who else for sure.  I'm pretty certain it's 8pm ET:

There will be numerous interviews of the many that attend including TES members and families whose lives have been affected by the loss of a loved one. Tim Miller and Dave Holloway will be just a couple of Dana’s guests this evening. We are also trying to line up Drew Kesse where there has been some movement in his missing daugter Jennifer’s case. Be sure to listen to a special Dana Pretzer show this evening. Dana will be taking phone calls through out the show.  Be sure to listen

San,
Not everyone thinks that, see Rob above calling me a female Big Foot!   :wink:

I think that means Robbie gets to call in himself tonight, don't you?  Will be waiting for that, too.

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http://www.real.com/player/?src=realplayer

http://www.winamp.com//

two players that definitely work. I know someone will ask... :D

RoFlM40!!!! you say some funny stuff!

If you don't call in I'm not going to listen to the show :smt089  :lol:

hey maybe there will be a call or two from Bombay India....LOL

Red posted this the other day:
Here is a programming note for Dana's show on Saturday ...

Guests so far:

Dave Holloway
Tim Miller
Lt Gov TX, David Dewhurst

Trying also for Singer/Writer Kevin Black but have not gotten in touch with his manager. He is most likely a go.

The mom of Tekey Buggs is also a possibility. http://missingexploited.com/category/teketria-buggs/

Members of TES as well that have been on the numerous searches that you have all discussed will join SM radio.

San,
LOL, yes you will, not fooling me! :lol:

But I hope everyone who has trouble hearing it will tune in early and get all the bugs worked out in advance.

Winamp works great for me.  I use IE if that matters.

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Still waiting for Ramm trans on Freddy 6/12 PV issue...but according to Shizaru Joran says in his book that he told Freddy both the HI story and the beach story on tuesday.

This remains a problem for Joran because Freddy is very clear in his PV that he was told the stories on different days. Also, the book does not say that Freddy changed his story to match Joran's.

I decided to check my Winamp and there is an upgrade I needed so I recommend everybody get whatever player they plan to use all lined up.

And oddly enough, I hear Dana doing an interview now that sounds like for the program tonight.

 :shock:

He could be doing some early so they can all be fit in.

He's gone now.  Told the lady to give the phone to Red then I lost it.  Seemed like an interveiw for tonight from the TES fundraiser.  Sounded very interesting.

Back to work to finish up so I will be able to listen to the entire program, hopefully.

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Is this what you're looking for?

posted by Ramm at BFN
My translation then from Freddy's PV only:

Statement Freddy Zedan, June 12th 2005

I am the best friend and neighbor of Joran. We got to know each other about two years ago. Joran and myself are both really into sports and that is how we became good friends. Monday afternoon on the 30th, Joran came to my house. He told met that the previous day, Sunday, he had befriended a girl in the Holiday Inn casino and that she had invited him to come to Carlos and Charlies that evening. He went and they danced and drank together. After that he, Deepak Satish and the girl drove off. Her friends saw that. The drove in the direction of the Lighthouse; a white car was behind them and most likely wanted to race Deepak. But that is something Deepak would never do. Joran told me that he fingered and had french kissed the girl while they were driving. He did not say that he had had sex with her. They drove to the Lighthouse, she wanted to see sharks. But Deepak only drove up to the Lighthouse because his car is very low to the ground and cannot drive up to the North side of Aruba. The girl had said to Joran that if Deepak and Satish would have lived in her town, they would be slaves. After that they drove to the hotel. When the girl had pushed open the door of the car, she fell to the ground. Joran wanted to help her but she shoved him away. (....)
The next day, Tuesday May 31st 2005 in the afternoon, I was with Joran at the raquetclub. Joran looked worried. He asked me if I could remember what he had said the previous day about the girl. I told him yes. The girl had gone missing. The FBI had been to his house during the night but he had not been home. His father had called him to find out where he was, Joran said that he was in the Raddison Casino. He told he that after that phone call he was called on the phone by Deepak and that Deepak picked him up a few minutes later. They drove to Joran's house. The FBI and the girls family were at his house. After that Joran told me that Deepak, Satish and himself did not drop off the girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel, but that the four of them drove to the beach at the north side of the Marriot Hotel. The girl had fallen several times on the way to the beach. Joran told me that at some point she "no longer came around/no longer regained consciousness" and that they had left her on the beach. He also told me that he had left his gym/sporting shoes on the beach. After Joran had told me this, I asked him why he had left her there. He answered me that at that moment he had not known what to do. Joran told me that after this he was dropped off at home by Deepak and Satish. On the evening of June the third, I met Joran at his house. (....) He told met that during this period, he could not remember if they had bought something to eat or did anything else.

Thanks GEL.

I have read that but have seen a coupla different versions given as to how Joran explains it away in his book. I mostly wanted to know if Freddy has recanted the content of that PV...it appears he has not.

And to be perfectly clear, Medleyrelay doesn't think anyone should talk about the book until she can read it for herself, lololol  :lol:

OK,didn't know if you'd seen it since ramm didn't post it in Joran's book section.

I'm really not interested in Joran's book. It's just more lies designed to counter-act the previous lies.

I am however interested in why no one wants to take the time to translate or summarize the remaining chapters? That seems odd considering there should be an interest by those that support Joran and the VDS' to get his side of the story out.

Saw that. :cyclops:

Joran's words scare his supporters. They should reflect upon that.

Thank you so much, Bobo.  That rose is apricot colored and the name is Crepuscule.  It can be purchased from one of the niche rose nurseries, like Antique Rose Emporium. www.rosesunlimitedownroot.com, www.pickeringnurseries.com or Ashdown Roses.  

Verbena does better where it is not wet all the time.  It likes a little on the dryside.  I use only organics in the garden but everynow and then I will give the drought-tolerant plants like verbena and the annuals some Monty's Joy Juice with the high middle number.

Works on anything live.  Most of my fertilizer is organics such as this and I do use alfalfa meal and cottongin trash once or twice per year, horse or cow manure.

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yep.. Igsigs, they can't believe he says what he says. They're shocked anyone could be so callous and cold hearted. In the past they were able to explain it away by simply saying he was a kid under stress during an interview or he is just someone that comes around different in interviews because there is a cultural separation.

But in a book you can carefully take your time to write and craft, Joran still comes across as someone who could have committed this crime, and infact looks even more guilty because he is unable to explain away his previous lies and might be what everyone under the sun has been calling him ~ psychopath.

8 eastern

Damn, you are entitled to a lot of naps. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

WTH. :shock:

Exactly. And the beach story he told Freddy...is beyond callous and cold hearted. To know even that story is sanitized, Joran's *good* version,  makes me cringe at the thought of what really happened.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/VDSMedleybook.jpg)

So, is she enrolled in a Dutch speaking class or is she getting it translated into one of those audio books for blind and/or illiterate people.

Is this the infamous after the beauty parlor photo of Joran where he looked like an overgrown, precocious pubescent girl.

 :lol:  :lol:

So everyone should wait for Medley to complete her Berlitz before we learn any more of what their Sporter had to say?  Well, that could take a while for sure.

Yes, it is odd all translations stopped but after that last one about his attack on Natalee, well, I can see why Sloot supporters would hesitate to go forward with even more of that.

What Joran's book says to me so far is that he thinks he is completely justified in what he did, not that he is innocent by any means but that he is entitled because he can get away with it.  It's a How We Did It book.  And how we got away with it and had been doing it for years and how we are likely to continue should we get the chance.

And he made it perfectly clear in the beginning that he thought if a female was intoxicated, voluntarily or otherwise, anything goes.  He did not even have the concept that it is illegal not to mention immoral to take advantage of semi-conscious females.  He had not wrapped his pea-sized (not Size 14 by far) brain around that fact until the interview with Greta when Natalee suddenly became sober as a judge the entire evening.

Well, something was surely wrong with her if she was talking about slaves and sharks and Hitler, topics much more likely common to Apartheid-creating Dutchie than an American.  He can't have it both ways, her drinking all day and yet sober and knowing what she was doing.  It's one or the other but can't be both.

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 :(  :(  :(

That one made me one to hang him upside down and castrate him in front of his mother.

Where in the world is Glenda?

Any PU going on at RU in the HE?

"Why is it that their review of the interrogation transcripts doesn't lead them to conclude that the law was not followed in terms of asking follow-up question to non-answers - and when WILL they have the authority to haul all these characters back in for complete questioning? "

AnnieMW1,

You raise an excellent point. Proper questioning was never done.
So, why can't the Dutch investigators override the "rule" that they have to ask suspects if they want to answer questions ?

I wish you would raise this point with Jossy, Kim G., or Dana.

Kat_Gram

I'm still on the last thread, but in case you have not seen this adorable photo yet, here it is :lol:

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/keeber/DSC00144-11.jpg)


(sorry for the interruption, everyone)

zip

joran's book upsets me and disturbs me.I like the picture Sharon and Tyler/are you FFV

Good question: there is a court order preventing the requestioning of the suspects without new evidence. That order was never appealed. I don't think the Dutch can requestion without bringing new evidence to that Judge and asking for a court order to requestion the suspects.

This order "not to question" is also part of the coverup.

I somehow doubt that means I am a lady, but I will take it for whatever, a fervent, frau vigiliante. :lol:

Just kidding, Tiger.  How about back to Plantagenet?  Is that your question?

Spock, I nominate you (Anna talks like me so I will not call) and ask Tim Miller if his planned repeat entre into Aruba is based on new evidence by the Dutch, a hunch, or what he has divulged that Dompig told him in the past?  We know we have been told he is returning and if the reason he is returning is at the request of the Dutch, then that means they have new evidence?  No?

 8)

Klaas, is it okay if I ask you to post link here for those who have gone to front page to no avail.

Click on the LISTEN LIVE on the right hand side of the page at this link:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/radio/

Evening all..

 Whewwwwww made it home fomr work with 4 minutes to spare before Dana starts!! Quiet house! Kid at work.. hubby in garage.. Yipeee

Hi Angie - looks like it will be a great show.  Drew Kesse and Jossy will be interviewed along with Dave Holloway, Tim Miller and many others!

 I caught Dana announcing it!!  :)   :D

I tunes working, i hear dana.

Red will be up first, lol  :lol:

Yep, right station...The Monkeys..

Tyler

I have never known there to be soooooo many roses.  Do you get lost in the Gallery, on a regular basis?? Not that that happened to me  :lol:  :lol:

 lol IM glad they were able to get Drew Kesse on. Im interested in what he has to say about Jennifers case.

thank you.   :lol:

Am I supposed to be hearing Frank Sinatra?

First up RED  :lol:

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(in case you forgot what he looks like, lol)

I don't guess there is any way to adjust these players so the signal would be more continuous?  Mine plays for 2 minutes and buffers for 2 minutes.  Drives me crazy!

I never have that problem with Real Player.

Red is on, saying Tim Miller has a tough job.  Missing people knows no ethnicity, no social or financial boundary and it can happen to anyone of us and people are just helpless, Tim goes 24/7 and never says no.

Dana talking about pre-recorded interviews from this afternoon.  Drew Kesse -- some new infor regarding his daughter.  Jossy to be on from Aruba.  

Red is trying to track a guest down now who has wandered off but so many people --- no one can so no to anyone, they want to talk to tim, to dave and want to know what is going on.

Whatever Red wants to do, dana is amenable. In about 2 minutes or so, we will have Dave Holloway.

 Easy.. have you ever tryed  loading WinAMp? Its the only thing that works for me.

I use Musicmatch Jukebox & have no trouble either

 HI Sleuth

Big Kudoa to Tim Miller.. God Love;em and the other memebers if TES

Red emotional talking about Dave, checking wells on her birthday to see if she is there.  Some of us tend to forget the minutia of what the family has been through.  In some respects, the family has to forget some of it in order to go forward and the details bring up some memories.  Tim Miller could barely get the words out without going through the same himself.  Dave is walking over to Red right now and Dave going to be on phone now.  

Dave is live on SM radio. Liste now. I am not fast enough.

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Try itunes.  :D

Hi Ang! I felt so bad for the stuff that was sent to you - thanks for saying screw them and sticking with us.

No problems with RealPlayer (I did download the newest version).

Good to hear Dave H on...says Tim is committted to helping Dave just as Dave is committed to helping Tim.

Jossy also to be on tonight.

I'm on dialup and all of them act up now.  Didn't used to, but now they do.  I think I am getting everything.  It just stops, buffers and picks up where it left off.

Dave Holloway on now..

Dave there as someone as who have gone through the ultimate sacrifice of loosing a child.  :(
Dave said he wants to give back to those who have helped him.
Dave going back to the first day that Batalee was missig..
said you need family support.. brother and BIL assiated him in support. They went to Aruba with him. Eventually whole family came down. Preparation is the key and hainb others help out/ Dabe says Tim is going back to Aruba sometime in mid June to do an ocean search.
 Dave said Dutch took over back in October 2006. Came to Aruba to follow up on wirnesses etc.
 He said they are trying.. searched entire VDS did forensic tests on the soil.. unaware of any results yet.
 Kalpoes searched.. he dont know why?  Maybe cell phone pinds form towers or they were there just to look around,.

Could be dialup is the problem then.  Sorry about that.

 Thanks Sweety :)

Dave talking 0000 Dave is asking for help for tim who helped him when he needed it, very emotional tone in his voice, trying to give back what was given to him ...

Dana asks about advice the first day, getting hit and panicking.

Dave says you need family support, but you are in a panic.  His brother and BIL came and assisted him for support and initially he had booked a flight and was going alone but they insisted in accompanying him.  Preparation is the key and getting people to help out.

Dave says Tim Miller says they are planning a new search in June.  Dave says Tim is committed to return to Aruba and Jossy is coming on, wants Dave's opinion on recent events.

Dave is saying Dutch took over 10/2006 and review the base documents, they came to Aruba about a month ago to f/u on poilce files and develop a case and things are hard to come by.  They are trying.  Searched VDS property, did forensic testing, Dave not aware of testing.  Went to K2 and pure speculation.  Some says it was to test cell phones and pings and others say they are just looking around.

Dana asked Dave about fund raiser and how we can help.  Corporate sponors, Dave says, including the live auction, Harley-Davidson will be auctioned off.  Vans and good food here, everyone having a good time.

Dana asks about Dave family.  He says they are ok, but stressed when they know the dutch are professional and when they execute search on primary suspect premises, it gives a high level of anxiety.  Making it day to day, keeping the faith from family friends and supporters.

I can see RED right now running aroung trying to get the next guest, lol  :lol:  :lol:

FINALLY!  I can hear!  yeaaahhh.

 :lol:  kewl beans!

 :lol:  Oops, Good evening all!

The hogs and horses fundraiser is being held today at the Galveston County Fairgrounds, Pickett Hall, Hitchcock, Texas.  We are going by our roving reporter, Red from SM, talk go some who are here and Cindy is talking about mission.  Cindy is having a great time/  There are about 300 people there.  It's their largest fundraiser that pays the bills and gets them through the year.  They have bands, a guest singer from Toronoto and the person who wrote the song dedicated to Natalee - is from Toronto -- their guest, will be there.  Texas ES does a lot..... what does the average case entail.

that initial phone call, she works with law enforcement and is a liaison between family and law enforcement.  large chore, larger than she thought but very fulfilling.

Dana says one of the kindest persons he ever met is Tim Miller.  .  . kind, dictionary describes him as kind.  

What is the commmitment for people with Texas ES.  Anyone can volunteer, but you need a special place in your heart for the missing, takes dedication and sacrifice - 40 hours per week --- no about 60 hours plus regular job, all-consuming.

Sounds like fun,  I would love to be there right now!

 Yes it does.. and for such a great cause!

Tylergal - thanks for transcribing!

I had EXACTLY the same vision!

Yes, the most important part!  :wink:

DANA says he will definitely go to the next one!

Hawgs, not Hogs, bikers --- are very supportive.  Texas ES was originally an equestrian mounted search.  NH case is probably forefront in media but there are many many, says Dana

She is saying average month or week is probably easier than average day.  Average day is 3-5 missing persons per day, some cannot be worked -- some are runaways we can close in a matter of minutes and once or twice per week, some have to be gotten down and dirty, focus daily and hourly.

These people, Dana says, put up their life savings, asking about government support.

As of now we have not received any federal grants (community support, but now they will need other things as they get calls from all over the world).  Dana promises he will be at the next fundraiser.

What can people/listeners do as far as funding.  Go to TXE.org (I missed that).  Credit cards, members, people who can coordinate, poster tours, phone managemenent, so many services we need voluntarily across the country, want chapter in every state.  Cindy Wisdom is her name.  She is on Hawgs & Horses, gone to break.

If he's there who will do the radio show, lol  :lol:

Tyler - thank you, as I know there are some monkeys that are unable to listen.

Us East coasters should try to come up with something to help get them out here.  A big fundraiser on the east coast!

 Be cool huh?

I missed what Dana was saying, bathroom break.  "Texas ES helped "her" during ..."  Someone?   Anyone?

when her daughter was missing.. whos BF was responsible

From William & Mary and FFV, if there is anyone who would like me to continue transcribing I will be happy to.  Otherwise, if everyone can hear it, I will stop because I am not verbatim and verbatim is important. I can listen to podcast and do it verbatim, but then who needs it if they can listen to podcast.  :lol:

RED looking for the next person to interview  :lol:

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All of these cable news programs are too hung up on the two year anniversary of the Natalee Holloway case.  A better question for them to ask is what did suspect status really mean?  It didn’t limit them from coming and going anywhere they please, they did not even have to answer questions if asked, so it meant very little after the brief stay in jail.  What impact does dropping it have now?  None!

 TYler.. IM happy you caught the other interviws.. I only did Daves. I think folks appreciate it who can't listen at this time. I know I dont type every single word .. when its live.  PLus I boo boo big time with typos..lol
I try and post what I can.

Live at Mission for missing Hawgs & Horses Event, Jennifer Kesse's father - May 25, her birthday, National Missing Persons Day, $1,000,000 reward offered for her return and more information regarding suspect.  Jossy & her father will be on and Jossy will discuss NH disappearance and search/investigatin, K2, VDS, what has been going on.  

Red is roving in Hitchcock.  He is rounding up guests.  Later on we will have Cindy Wisdom, Case mgr.  Ooops, we will have Cheryl Lawless, Tim's right-hand lady and mother Gayle Sheilds, Teneshia who was killed by her boyfriend and discuss domestic violence -- especially parents and what signs they should look for.  

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Exactly!

Tylergal - you're doing a great job!  Thank you so much!

Sing it, Brother Easy.  Amen.

Dana, I usually love your music, but WTF.

Tyler,
I like for you to type it as I read better than I listen and just like for somebody to sort of type along.  Maybe some of the other good typtists will pitch in and help you out?

Live doesn't have to be exact for sure.

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Will Renfro call in tonight???   :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:

From what I understand, when they lose the "suspect status" they can no longer be surveiled and that includes telephones, emails, IMs.

I've always appreciated those who transcribe when I couldn't listen.  You guys are awesome.  Just glad I can finally hear.... :wink:

 You dont like the Rolling Stones??   lol

LOL, I was just thinking the same thing.  I'm going to put some songs together for him to play one of these days!  :lol:

 :shock:  I think I would fall off of my chair if that happened.  LOL

Also, no more searches or inspections.

Well, if they ain't got nuttin by now......

Except that it's my understanding that they have ruled that the 2 year time limit does not apply any more.

Maybe she has one call she can make, lol  :lol:

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Klaas, you never cease to amaze me with you creative pics! :lol:

Wow - she thinks the fundraiser today has made at least $30,000.  How cool!

I credit being motivated, LOL  :lol:

I heard that too, the rule is somewhat arbitrary, could be 1 year in some cases could be three in others. The guideline is two years.

Who was the woman from TES who used to post here? She doesn't post any longer, does she?

 I caught that at the end.. I had to change clothing.. I am freezing.. gotta nice comfy sweatsuit on now.. Yipeee

Back again from Hitchcock, Texas, Red on the line.

Guest with Red.  Dana advises Red not to get run over.

Guest, Shell Benson, husband Walter went missing while hunting in Colorado. She has been the organizer -- she has done an amazing job.  

Dana is talking to her now.  Praising Texas ES, Tim Miller.  Telling her that it is traumatic but satisfying to organize.  She says if she did not have Tim, she would be only thinking of Walter.  She has turned a negative into a positive, redirected her misery of depression, but she believes in action and a positive energy.  

Dana asks her about therapy for body, mind and soul.  What brought her to set up and organize the event, successful event?

When Walter went missing she had never heard of Texas ES, free of charge and she was amazed and decided she needed to help them --- it's about thousands who go missing, not only about Walter and praises Tim for his efforts.  How often he stays at a search until all have left.  He works hard and is the virtue of this organization.

Dana does not like the term closure -- he likes answers or information better.  Sometimes there is never closure.  Dave will never be able to get over NH and hopes some day they will get answers.  Her husband is missing from a hutning trip.

Her husband was adventurous, boy scout, hunter, fisher, hunting in Colorado in 10/2006  and he never returned to camp.  If anyone could have done something creative or imaginary to survive, he would.   A mystery.  People do not know that when husband goes missing, you cannot collect insurance or do business in his name, it's a financial difficulty and you feel you are not alone if you are with Texas ES.  They have come through for her.   She says they have made about $30 grand today alone.  She thinks they will make money and raise awareness because she has never heard of it until her loved one went missing and others are the same - families of missing people.  Need to let community know about Texas ES.  

Dana applauding her for the work she has done in organizing this event, including her.  He thanks her and she is very gracious thanking him.  Promising again to get to next event.  Now Red coming up.

Dana saying if ok with Red, he is going to dial into aruba while talking with jossy.

Jossy will be on next..

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ROFL!! :lol:  Lurking and listening to Dana's show. This brought me outta lurkdom.....one call...LMAO  :smt044

Well, they have already searched, so does that mean they have new information?

Spock, thanks.

I just think it is ridiculous that the Dutch team has to play by the rules of the coverup.

They were sent to Aruba to do a REAL investigation.

Dana having phone trouble between him and Aruba (can you say third world?).  Thank you, Jossy, for trying to bring Aruba out of the 13th century.

Bummer

Dana having troubles dialing up Jossy.. said Arubas phone system sucks..lol

DREW KESSE

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I know the investigators covered it up and the judges sealed the lips of the suspects. The Dutch don't have alot of options unless they want to put the government and law enforcement on trial. I don't think they have the will to do that.

That's true, but the cable TH's never get that in their thick skulls.

what was that website for Kesse again?

Like me :x .

Thank you Tyler.

Drew Kesse on the phone
Jennifer Kesses father..

Drew says there is new news.. person of interest is a pic of one thats been on the website.. now he has truned into a prime suspect.
He was the last that has been her car.  
Been almost 16 months..
Some tips of slowed up in the last month or 2.
Drew says this is a kidnapping. she was taken her against her will.. they know that now. Its a fact and they know that.
Drew said go to findjenniferkesse.com  to visit the site.  If you visit the site.. pass it on to others. Has a video that will be uploaded sometime.. its a large file.

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Afterall, it was Dutch judges appointed from the Netherlands that basically closed the investigation.

I know, it drives me nuts. That and "former suspect".

Well, why the hell not?  Don't the Dutch have any BALLS???????

Dana back. Jennifer kessy would be 26 tomorrow.  A $1 million dollar reward for her safe return.  Police have come out with further pix of the suspect in her kidnapping.  Dru on line now.

Dana saw him and his wife on cable TV.  Epitome of strength, good days and bad days and disappointing days but new stuff.

The person of interest - was the actual person who parked and the last person to be in her car -- ? prime suspect.  He has a soft voice or I am losing it.  They have known for a long time about this, but have kept it quiet but time to come out.  16 months, almost?  Still get tips on a daily basis.  The tips have slowed up in the last month or two so they brought out the video as noted above but it has picked up and we are awaiting one good call that can lead us in a good direction.

Dana:  When you look at the website, (Jennifer, a beautiful young girl, no reason to disappear on her own).  This is flat out a kidnapping.  Father agrees.  She was abducted, physically taken against her will --  a fact he has known.

Go to findjenniferkesse.com.  They will soon have file up.  $1 million reward -- visit site.  We try to keep update.  If you visit, pass it on to everyone in your address book.  

Next Friday, "National Missing Persons Day...."  Dana, as a host and investigator wants to know how they can turn this from a tragedy to a positive in dealing with missing person case and prevention.

Talk about NMPD group.   A club no one wants to be in.  It's really hard, when a person goes missing, no one wants to think about it and when it comes to an adult -- people think it's okay for adults to go missing.  Adults have psychological problems but there is a difference between children and adults only in the law.  Keep it in the news.  There are 105,000 missing in USA on any given day.

website www.findjenniferkesse.com.

Dana expressing he wants Jennifer & her dad on show soon.  Dana wishing him the best and promising to stay in touch.  Jennifer missing almost 16 months.

Hopefully he'll be able to get through to Jossy now.

Tyler - great job!

Ill keep trying, rings twice then disconnects

I hope Red gets some good pics of the event and shares them!

The Dutch are in on it.

Spock, the judges that pulled the strings in Aruba are the same damn bunch Paulypuss worked with In the Netherland Antilles Court. They are as crooked as he is. I believe the KLPD are a different breed.

GAIL SHIELDS (sp)

 Shes good.. LOL  She gets word for word dang near!  <and no typos  :shock: >  I cant get it all.. just bits and peices. lol
You Go Tyler Chicky..

Maybe the nationalized communications system is being monitored.

 :shock:

Yeah, they even talk about the “former suspects” being released from “suspect” status! lol lol

I was thinking the same thing  :wink:

They are more like our FBI, right?

Hi Dihannah, I would liken the KLPD to our FBI versus a regular police squad.

Ya know, it is really depressing to think about the number of missing persons there are in this world and their families still have no answers.

Dana back with Red interviewing people, to help Texas ES.  They are in the business of getting answers for families of missing.

Gayle Shields on phone, missing daughter, Teneshisa.  Wants to know what Texas ES means to her and how they helped her.

I cannot understand her.  But they got the ball rolling and she thinks they are a  God send.   Would police be able to do what Texas ES do?  No, they are limited -- they could not cover as much area as Texas ES was.

Dana tells her it must be difficult, she has gone through what no one else should go through but like Tim, she can help to help keep children safe or through the trauma.

Her daughter's case --- Timothy -- the guy who murdered her -- her situation was if he could not have her no one else could so he murdered her.  There was a time when she was depressed, thought it was school pressure, she worked and graduated top 10% in class.  They learned after the fact that Timothy was putting pressure on her that she was not willing to do.  On spring break, she broke up with him.  Texas A&M was #1 for her and he was not willing to accept it.  The signs were there, she was depressed - she talked a lot ??? they thought relationship was over when she went off to college but he had been in touch and harrassing her ever since college.  He went to campus --- her roommate talked about how upset she was.  

He would go up there and pick her up, take her to dinner, upset her.

Dana asks what is message she would give to parents where boyfriend is doing similar -- serious situation --

what message, what signs?


If child is more depressed or quiet, ask questions, get in their business --- bad audio.

It's horrifying!  :cry:

She is praising Tim and has him on her prayer list.  Tim's mentality ---- people like that need your help.   Sorry, audio must be a poor cell phone or something.

Her thoughts on Texas ES:  They are a blessing, especially to her because when it happened they did not know where to go and someone in her family called Texas ES and within an hour they were talking and the next day they were ready to go.  Dana asking for Red.

OMG this BF of Taneshas .. if I cant have you.. bonody else can have you. She got quiet and became depressed. She graduated in top 10% in her class.. had a PT job.  Mom thought it was stress of school. Timothy her BF put alot of pressure on her. Tanesha didnt want a relationship.. was involved at texas a&N.. harassed her.. calls and trips to the campus. Her roomate was upset with him as well.
 He went to try and take her out to dinner at school. etc,,
Gail said signs to look for.. domestic violense.. depressed.. more quiet as usual GET INTO THEIR BUSINESS..  <I agree with here there.Angie>
 Talk to someone.. counsler.. etc.
Gail says she has Timoth on her prayer list at church.. to get thse people help.
  TES is a blessing to her.. and to so many other families.
Someone in her family.. called TES.. and the next day TES was there for her.

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Dana switches between calling Red the "Top Banana"  and "Roving Reporter"...   :wink:

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 I agree Easy.. My gradmother has a sister.. who I imagine is dead now.. went missing as a teen.. when THEY were teens.. My grat gram went to pick her up at a movie theatre. she wasnt there.. never to be seen again. Over 70 years ago.  No traces of her ever.

Cheryl Lawless - Tim's right hand gal

When you get that call there is no way to say NO

AMW would be a good start!

I asked about Tim MIller the phone signal was bad so she was talking about Timothy the guy who murdered her daughter. She deonst want him to get the death penalty ??

Hi Yapperz.  Please email me!  Klaas, you have my permission to give my email addy to Yap.  Thanx!!

 I heard her ok.,, IO she misunderstood your question when you asked about TIM and TES. took me a sec to figure  it out.. LOL

I missed that Dana.  Ask them how we can spread the word more and get them more national attention to help raise more funds.

The coverup is a "political" one, The KLPD unlike our FBI, is highly political.

Back live at H&H Event.  Red has been lining up interviews to talk about benefit to help a great organization, one of the best to help find the missing and solving case after case, spend their own money, their life savings, building restaurants and shopping malls (Tim) so he can do this.  He spends his personal money to do this.  

Chery Lawless, Tim's right-hand gal:  Talked earlier with her.

We are back.  We are live.  Earlier interview.

Point person for Texas ES.  Thoughts about fundraiser.  I am losing communication here..... We want to do something, we want to be here, we need more advertisement.  We turned up bikers, we need more people.  Send your dollars.  ??? Blessed Red is here and that makes it better.  She thinks this will be huge and is almost teary-eyed due to thanks.

Why a fundraiser?  Huge expense.  A few months back when Wal-Mart gave $1000, she cried.  They can go down the road or out of state.  They need to go at anytime they are called and Tim does not know how to say "no."  They get all kinds of strange cases and others would say they do not have time and resources, they will do it just for closure or answers.  Only operate on volunteers and donations, about 400 members.  

She is filling out membership applications right and left.  This is why it is so vital to pull everybody together and make the big announcement and draw attention to Texas ES.  They run low but they can not say no.  People are so gracious and so awesome, wants more benefits.  If you build a field, they will come or have a benefit they will come.

All of Texas ES very caring. *Dana*

Dana has talked to lots of families who have not given up hope but are terrified.

He wants to know what they tell them?  We are here for you and we will do everything to bring them home.  They discuss expense but it does not matter -- we are here.  The moment the phone rings, they are there, when the phone rings.

if happy ending or what, regardless or not, that does not end relationship between Texas ES and family of loved one that is lost.  Many are there who never get answers but others who are there have had answers.  Their tragedies have turned to helping others.   Still in contact with numerous families.  Sometimes they just call to say hi (families of missing) and want to know what they can do.

Dana saying they do God's work and she is saying that what Dana and Red have done with SM is beyond just words of thank you.  Passing phone to Red.  She wants to know what she can do.

Aawwwee, God Love her.  She wants to help us?  She does enough!  I want to do more for them!

Done  :wink:

Rock & Roll Heaven. (concession time.

Now Johnny Cash.  Folsom Prison.  Time keep dragging on but that train keeps a rollin' on down to San Antone....

They aren't always motivated to do the "right thing", they will do what makes the Netherlands "look best" and that doesnt include putting the Aruban judiciary and law enforcement on trial.

Dana is playing Julia's song.  :D

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 :smt046   Now THAT'S dedicated transcribing!  :lol:

 :lol:


 <got your email.. and very interesting.. TY and I will check out the links later!!>  :D

So what would you suggest?

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I just can't believe the award money hasn't been a motivator.  Or even being the 'hero' factor....

I hope Reds cell battery is a good one!!!  lol

Has anyone heard anymore on the "Paulus to Holland" rumor from this afternoon?  :?:

if you ONLY knew... :lol:  I packed his charger!! :wink:

 :lol:  :lol:

Besides lining up interviews he's been taking video of the event as well :wink:

 ROFL  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

But will he remember to use it without you there to remind him!   :roll:

There YOU are,  I was wondering where you been! Glad to see you.

with a tripod even!!

 :shock:  Missed that one.. I was gone all day..

Ty Tyler... It is amazing how good you are at this ! !

Sunfreak you have mail

Nope, nothing other than what Profiler posted at BFN.

Thank God for Mrs. Red!  Men can be so lost sometimes  :wink:

ROFL  Dana is such the multi tasker  
KUDOS to Mrs Red..   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Cant wait to see the videos as well  !!!  :)

Thanks Dana!     :lol:

LOL - Dana just mentioned the "hoping the cell phone is charged" comment - he is reading the blog as he speaks to Red. He tells Red to shout out to Mrs. Red as she did the packing    :lol:

Yeah, I suggested that after the last fundraiser, lol  :lol:

LOL, he IS, isn't he.....

Mrs. REd,  I'm sure you are SO proud!   Where would we be without the Reds and Tom and now Dana too.  God Bless you all!

Back to Dana with Red, chief banana hanging out....

safe place as long as .... :shock: Wooops, I made that up. :lol:  They raffled off the Harley.  

Red has been there for quite a few hours.  Fundraiser -- awareness --- amazing, Red spoke with niece of Walter who was interviewed earlier -  Cheryl who never heard of Texas ES but was an avid NH follower.  She admitted NH's missing was the first time she paid attention to missing persons.  It can happen to anyone, says Red.  Where is Mrs. Red :shock:

Please tell me she is not lost.... Red thinks Texas ES has gone global from Texas.  Dana not surprised but happy that victims families and victims come forward to organize --- when they have their own missing loved ones and yet positive energy helpful.  Red on bad signal.  Says people can pick themselves up by the bootstraps and be a positive force.

Where do I send the money (my own personal question).

It would be too easy, Says Red, for them to wallow in their sorry but these people whose loved ones are missing are positive and want to make a difference.  Dana praising the ones at SM who contribute through discussion.  Red agrees --- talking about all blogs for missing people --- through thick and thin these people (*us*) stay because they care and he is challenging everyone to volunteer in their own way.  Many ways to contribute, logistics in missing person case, help Tim and Texas ES if you have a phone and/or computer --- please help!

Dana saying that Mrs. Red packed Red's chargers -- encouraging him to thank his beautiful bride.  We love her, Red.  Now say it, damn it!  You love this pretty red head.

Red saying we do it because people are important, not us, prevention key.  We are trying to make them the focal point.  He is praising support of SM.  Helping finding missing people not an easy job, Red praising Tim Miller's virtues.  Guys from Texas ES left fundraiser to go out and help.

Red says he is trying to track down Gene Robinson, a Texas ES member.... works with video  :shock:  digital cameras for drone plane??? A little more time before he comes on.  Dana going on and Red will call him when he is ready.

Hopefully Dana will try Jossy again

It's the least I can do actually... Red is right, it's all about helping people and espeically TES...

DO any of you know anything about Share Our Strength?  Taste of different cities?

 That was toooooooooo funny.. lol

he listens to you more than me! :shock:  LOL :lol:  :lol:

I did a read 'round, nothing. He might be in Holland, but
under his own steam. If he was "taken' we would have seen it.
Jossy, my man !

JOSSY ON NOW!

Maybe JOSSY can tell if KLPD can interview the suspects again.

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 I tryed to help Tyler.. lol She does wayyyyyyyyyyyyy much better of a job.  and I have a hard time understanding Jossy when he is on.  :cry:

CRAP  :shock:   Pleeaaassee somebody transcribe!  I can't hear!!!  :cry:

no staute of limitations on this case Jossy says.. !!!!

Jossy thinks they are preparing the groundwork to re question the suspects.

thanks Dana with the water search question

They are not only STILL SUSPECTS, they are the MAIN SUSPECTS!

Jossy now.

Truth detector says Dana regards Jossy.  

I am listening so it will be only sketchy transcription.

Dutch team came with forensic experts, 15-20, began with search at VDS and then went to K2 residence where we know some phone calls were made on the night of Natalee disappearance as well as computer messages.....going step-by-step, video tapes, audio and processing from A to izzer.  He thinks they will find what they want.

Dana asking about 2-year limit.  He is saying there is no statute of limitation in Aruba as in USA.  There are no limitations.  Whatever they specified within our law according to the law, person can be held 2 years without charge...after 2 years --- take off list or charge but in this case -- murder, no statute of limitation.

Asking about reinterrogation without new evidence.  Jossy says not only can they but they will --- otherwise, it would be in vain.  He says they will.

Dana asks if it has or will be done.  Jossy says they are preparing the groundwork for that to occur, revisiting the areas and people.

Dana asking about Paulus Puke.  He has not been approached for repeat interview according to Jossy as far as he knows.

Dana talking to Jossy about Texas ES going back to Aruba in June regards water search, and if there have been other searches.

Jossy thinks they will search at Fishermans' Hut as that is an area of major, major importance in this case, because Joran's statements indicate he left her there early morning.  Joran says he thinks Deepak was involved at that place; this is a spot of interest and Jossy thinks they will search with sophisticated equipment (Dutch).

Dana is verifying they are still suspects.  Jossy says very emphatically they are the MAIN SUSPECTS.  Natalee disappeared in their presence.  Discussing Greta now about other suspects.  Jossy denies anyone else is involved and no one else has come forward -- no one , no one besides these 3.  The case evolves around them.  
 
Jossy, truth detector, per Dana.

There are NO OTHER SUSPECTS -- Jossy

 I heard that!!!   8)  8)  8)  8)

Yes,  they held these last year as well.   It is like a good old fashioned fair but better food - usually has food sponsored by great local restaurants, and for a great cause.  I've been to a couple of them.  I believer there is one here in August..

 :lol:  :lol:

Good Job Dana, TY

Dana !!! Quit the helium !!

Not Guido!  Not Lorenzo!  Not Koen!  Not Sander!  and most of all NOT BOETI!!!!  Just the three little pigs...Joran. Deepak. Satish.

A Scotish rendition of the Star Spangled Banner.  I love you, Dana.  Welcome to the North American Union.  :oops:

Gene Robinson - TES member

I hope  Red dont wear a size 10 1/2 or 14..   ROFL
 Dana asked him if he needed orthopedic shoes.. ha ha

Evening monkeys.  Mrs. Red, I notice that Red knows how to mince his words wisely. LOL :lol:

Charlie Daniels is Scottish???????????  :roll:  :roll:  :wink:

 Evening lalas.. :)

I would love to get TES that kind of event... I have met Billy Shore, he was originally the campiagn manager for Gary Hart.  But I think TES needs that kind of event... and if you watch the foodnetwork they are doing a national bake sale..how do we get that for TES??

I wish Dana had asked Jossy about the reported statement:

Gosh!  These TES people are wonderful!  They have hearts bigger than Texas.  I wonder if we could do a fundraiser here in Alabama for them sometime in the near future?

LOL...he is a quick study...  :lol:

Hi Angie!  owh ouy diogn?   :wink:

Red and Dana.  Red has had a long day...joking about orthopaedic shoes.  Weather in Texas cooperating, very breezy and nice, unusual for Texas.

Talking about our friend, Mrs. Red ,who has been charging with reckless abandon much to Red's chagrin.  No I made that up. :lol:

Guest.  Gene Robinson, Texas ES member regards drone planes they use with video capability and the technology they use --- amazing.  He is going to talk with Red regards technology.

Regarding technology --- shoulder-to-shoulder people are important but technolgy --- certainly they have provided tech in the way of drones being used in Iraq.  A force multiplier.  They can scan and shoot with high resolution digital imagery that gives search teams vital information in an area, and potentially can find a victim as they have done before in several searches with aerial advantage.  They use GPS coordinates and imagery and image analysis.  They pick out possible targets to foreshorten searches.   Images can produce disturbed turf where they can go search.  An invaluable resource.  Narrow a large-scale search.  Training invaluable.

Most guys are pilots...... who they use..... a train is going by (old technology).

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Hey Spock, maybe this will make you feel better.

He seemed pretty positive about this too.  And Jossy was the only news to be on the scene of the Kalpoe inspection so he does seem to know a few things.

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i dont understand

Did you know that if you go here:

http://www.texasequusearch.org/donate.html

you can donate to TES with Paypal?  :D

udjs neif  ankth uoy !!  :wink:

omg... have you two been to the darkside or something? :shock:

Huge thanks to Tylergal for transcribing  -- I can't listen 2nite, so am very, very grateful for the info - and you're doing an awesome job!

Took my kids to see Shrek 3 and to the bookstore today.  If I can spend that, I can make at least an equal donation to Texas EquuSearch.  I challenge all the other monkeys to make a donation through the website this weekend.  Doesn't matter how much or how little - we can't afford not to give - as there but for the Grace of God go we.

Thank you Dana, Red, and Tim Miller & all of TX EQ - I'm very moved tonight.

I can even read Angiespeak with typos inside the typos. LOL

I think she's referring to the Chipmonks rendition of that song durring break  :lol:

 hell no.. ROFL  Lalas is just picking on my typos..   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

FAA pilots or pilots trained by Gene Robinson.  An important aspect is the ability to cover with coordination, be able to fly drane, visual sight system of approximately 5 sq miles in 20 miles.  Boots on the ground takes days to do the same.  They can fly it in 20 minutes producing high-resolution digital imagery and go through and look at pix with GPS tech and find a target of signifcance, send troops to target without searching a broad area, typically locate and clear or determine if it is significant or not and move on.  This is why they need funds to proceed.  Police Depts on small scale cannot do this and most PDs are hamstrung secondary to lack of funds.  They have a hard time keeping people paid with overtime for ordinary cases.  

Texas ES supplants that and coordinates with LE to bring the tech to bear.  It enhances police capability.  Most are very appreciative and Texas ES can go over previous LE areas and have found vicitims.  Training is key, easy to overlook if not trained to do this.  Dana thanking Gene Robinson who is reciprocating.  He wants help and requests it.  Dana will call Red back.

 :shock:  What a dip I am.. ROFL  I just noticed it.. ha ha

I think they are trying to find some evidence so they can bring them in again. Jossy always makes me feel better :D  :D

:lol:  :lol:

Keep posting it unrelentingly.  We never know when we will be a vicitm or a loved one.  Thanx, BT.  Keep reminding all SM.

any ideas Monkeys????

:oops: a drane is a DRONE (typo) a plane that flies without a warm body.

 You have done a great job tonight Tyler!!  TY!

yes she has

Well, I don't know.  Most of my fundraisers were with the Rockefellers for Nixon and Reagan.

 Well SO HAVE you and Red and the guests!!!  :) :) :)  TY DANA!!

Spock maybe this applies to the KLPD just like the prosecutor on Aruba. I feel sure all the evidence the prosecutor had has not been presented.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162272,00.html

VAN SUSTEREN: And what's the prosecutor's view of their evidence? Do they have something brand-new to present to the court?

MANSUR: Perhaps not brand-new, in that sense. Perhaps the prosecutor has all the evidence that they haven't presented before, and that is one of the big possibilities in this case. It doesn't necessarily have to be brand-new evidence. It could have been evidence that they've hold back for their cases and will present now because they know that they have to present a strong case tomorrow

Dana back.  Channel 46 Alabama (not doing all of them but pod cast as well).  Dana, where are you going?  Are you through and now I can ask you questions about what Jossy or others told you that you cannot share on the air.  You forgot the most important question.  Where is Renfro and have all the Indians moved to Michigan, as you have some kind of phone problem with India and Michigan. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

All those things Joran said in his book could be taken as new evidence as far as that goes.  How did he know some of the things he claims to know about Natalee for instance based on his alleged three hour acquaintance with her?

I would love to be able to ask Jossy ALL the questions I want.  Like will anyone be punished for failure to gather evidence from the suspects?  If forensic evidence is ALL that Aruban courts recognize, why is that the very kind they refused to take?

Are the Dutch looking at the vids of the statements for transcribing irregularities?

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So you should be all knowledge about this... I was just saying who Billy Shore was before founding this non profit.... and I would love love to see TES get that kind of support.... Share Our Strength does all of those Taste of the Nation events... like Taste of Birmingham... etc... Taste of Atlanta...  I think that TES needs like a national event in cities like that but I have NO idea how that would work.....  :?

A start would be to try and get the networks like FOX, CNN, MSNBC to have a link to TES on their website.

not done yet

Jossy just told me he would be happy to answer any calls in the future.  I think that would make for an interesting show.  I realize this has been a jam packed program, covering a lot of bases but it might be something Dana might want to consider for the future.

That would be great!  Maybe on Wednesday of this week Dana could do a call in show with Jossy!

Mrs. Red, if someone can tell me what they want, I can work on it.  I am not a big wig.  I just worked for them.

WTH is that music???

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i sure will

Who's on the phone?  I missed her name?

Sleuth.  What a great tele voice she has.  Praising Tim.  Anna, call quick.  Time is running out.  We all do what we can.  Sleuth, CBB, Old Fart and Anna are the best on the phones.

Is that SLEUTH?

sloots are going down


dont worry  8)

I liked it... but I was thinking it would be good to work out to...



Tyler, I sent you an email....

So am I.  I have had a six-pack of Chardonnay. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

TERRIFIC SHOW DANA!!!

Very Informative.. lots of terrific info. I really enjoyed it. Thank you, Red, and Tom for putting it all together. And Klaas too!!

Thank you to TES for making a difference in so many lives.

Good Point: Like the recently disclosed phone taps on Paulus. They may have "sandbagged" a few more things.

 :D   Great job Sleuth!

 :wink:

 :P

I second that!

 ROFL  

Having a coors light here.. not many though.. gotta get up for work early AGAIN  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

NO ONE has ever done "America The Beautiful" like Ray Charles!!!

sand bagging is good

i occasionally SAND BAG when playing  8) poker

speaking of BAGS... where is RENHO  8)

Ofir - up next.  Ofir has the song she wrote and sings about Natalee

This is just a rumor

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Robots didn't you hear Renho is now the head operator for Oduber Communications on Aruba. That's why Dana couldn't get a call thru.   :lol:

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
lol

Just my opinion, but I think it needs to be scheduled a week in advance and promoted, so that there will be plenty of callers.  The word has a way of spreading across the internet exponentially.

where is the PUKE button

OFIR's site

www.myspace.com/goldcd

Excellent point!

Dana waiting on Red's call.  Ray Charles --- for purple waves of ... those are not the words I remember --- no fruited grain :shock:

AMERICA, AMERICA, GOD SHED HIS GRACE, MAY GOD

Back with Dana.  Red:  Red has Ofir Angar.  (SIC) from Canada who sang song for Natalee.  I know spelling is wrong.  She is going to talk with Dana.  Great voice!  Great person!  She has a great cheerleader voice.  She came to meet the families from Canada to Texas.  She performed "Natalee" and ??? she is "so excited."  Why she wrote the song for Natalee?  She was inspired by photograph.  She felt something very different with Natalee, an inner glow, a shining light, you cannot miss it.  She thought it strange that family had to have to find Natalee, made her cry, she felt a pain and did not even know her or the family.  She started writing something so powerful to deliver the message to bring to audience.  She wants the message heard internationally, especially wants Aruba to know nobody gets away with anything.

www.blogsfornatalee.com.  I am almost drunk.  I did not get the rest of it.  www.myspace/gocd.com.  

Where is San?  

Dana thanking Ofir.  Is she Indian Canandian.  She wants to thank everyone.  Very nice person.  Passing phone to Red.

(Please pay song, just my request.).  Red is going to sing :shock:    :lol: Says dogs will howl and our lovely Mrs. Red will attest to that.  She is pining in corner for Red to see all the charges she has made. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

NO YOU DO NOT WANT TO HEAR RED SING!!!!!  we get cracked up in Church all the time because neither of us can carry a tune in a bucket... and it's supposed to be a joyful noise unto the Lord...  :lol:

Tyler - thanks again for transcribing for those that can't hear it live.

Dana is trying to get Red to sing a few bars of Natalee's song.  Red says Mrs. Red can attest to the fact that he can't sing  (I can't either)..

Where is that damn Barf doll.

Can't wait to hear Tim.

 Good evening Rob..

Rob, would you please type that interview. :shock:

  LOL  !! :)  I am sure you both do fine!  :wink:

There is no almost hostile..... Red gets extremely hostile about this stuff he is ranting about... can you imagine carpooling with that everyday? :shock:

Ofir’s accent sounds good on a girl, but it makes me puke when it rolls off of Joran’s fat lips!   :twisted:

Red said who gives a flying ??? about what happened to Paris.  I don't.   Joran and his brother do.  They come from the PH website to Monkeys at night and read the blog and then go back to PH.  They are perverts.  don't say I said that. I track those isp's.

Red hunting up Tim Miller.   Red is the chief banana for Missing H&H for the Missing.

  LOL Tyler I tryed to help out.. but miss alot and typos.. ughh .. you did fantastic.. I stopped  :oops:  :oops:

I've been on the other end of a few IM rants, so I don't doubt what you are saying, lol  :lol:

HI Monkeys,
 Angiex911dsptchr, Anna, BTgirl, Buckeye, Dihannah1, Easywriter, greeneyedlady, igsigs, klaasend, Rob, Sam, Sleuth, Tylergal, yapperz1 and all who signed on after I copied those names quite awhile ago now.

Tyler and Angie thank you so much for transcribing. I like Easy can never listen because of this phone modem and the buffering.
 I also can't call in because of the modem being also my phone connection. I guess it really is time to think about a cell phone.

Great show Dana.

Tylergal - thank you so much for transcribing tonight.  I think San said she couldn't get the show on her media player.

:lol:  :shock:  :lol:

Ditto  :wink:

If I had to choose between a cellphone or cable, I'd choose cable in a heartbeat over the phone.

Hi Sam, yes it is a great show.

hahahahaha!!!! :lol:

Are we supposed to just call in or wait until after the Tim interview or what?  I can call after Elvis as he is from same region and has same accent so no one will notice.

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HI Sam :)

Tyler...ask & you shall receive   :lol:

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Ill take some calls after Tim.

I always tell him not to go there... LOL that y'all will hang up... LOL...

Interesting Quote:

We have reviewed this case meticulously from the beginning, and have a pretty good idea as to what happened to her. The problem is we can't voice it because we don't have the hard evidence to back it up, although I think we are within millimeters of the truth.

RED - hunting down Tim

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Tim Miller

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It happened here the other day .. something about having to have to buy beer at a beer distributor.. and how my rights are being violated... :lol:  :lol:

Who's quote was this?

Hi Sam!  No, you'd be better off getting DSL or broadband.... Never go back to dialup!  :lol:

Back with Dana & Red.  Keep posting the website and asking for donations, BT.  This is your JOB.  I am delegating this to you as chairman of the bossy SMs.  Red told me to say that. :lol:

Red is giddy, which must mean lots of money has been raised or he has seen the charges run up by Mrs. Red and is laughing instead of crying.  Some donations in the 1000s, not about what they receive, but what we give.

We all love to know his thoughts on Paulus' ultimate role.

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:



 :twisted:

Well, then, isn't it odd that the august body of ALE chose to not collect any forensic hard evidence and Prosecutor KJ thought hiding and watching would be the better course of action, sure to result in absolutely zilch in the hard evidence department.

If this is the only evidence admissible in Aruban court, then can someone please explain to me why this was the very area that was most avoided at all costs in regard to these suspects.

And will those who conducted this sort of avoidance be held accountable and if so in what manner?

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Tim Miller.  He sounds tired but happy.  What a wonderful human being Tim is (I said that).  He is praising support and yet he gives his all.  

Dana described group as "caring" In Webster --- the people at Texas ES. Tim acknowledges that --- water searches, volunteers, and it never stops --- Dana asking a word of advice for a parent  missing a child.

Tim:  "No advise.  If someone wants your child, they will get them." I think Tim has said it all.  Stalkers watch you and know what you do.  Pray --- Dana reiterates that --- pray.  Our children are 25% of our population and 100% of our future, but 100% will not make it home.

What is the line between cautious and paranoid?  Tim does not know.

that song, I'll hava a blus christmas ...without you.. ugh

I was actually a good girl today... I don't know but sounds like they made some money.... which I dearly hope for...

God Bless Tim Miller..

Who?

Is Dana still archiving the podcasts? I checked our page for him and I don't see a link to download them like he had when he was a standalone site.

O/T and going back to last night, the picture I referenced named "Vanity" was the one that Port Valerie found in her search. Everything I have read from there up to now is blurring in my mind... One thread per day is a LOT and it is back at June 2005 levels. Whew!

Dana says Tim Miller is "one class act."

Awaiting Red, talking about availability of Podcast.

Call Dana, please.  Anna, are you listening.  You have the best broadcast voice, you, Sleuth and CBB.

The fundraiser is over but not the need, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!  You are key to their being able to continue.  Red says it all.

YES ANNA... call up... you have the best voice...

Red CALL HOME>>>

Awesome show Dana and all  !!!!!!!!!   Thank You!!

Dana thanking everyone, and of course, Red, Drew Kesse, Jossy, Tim, Cindy, Gene, et al.  Thank you, Red, Dana and Tom, who Dana mentioned who does yeoman's work.  CALL, ANNA, CALL.

ROFLOL!  Dana:  doesn't know the difference btweeen an IPod or a PPod!

We need to bring Dana up to THIS century!  (music too)

We LOVE you DANA!   :smt054    :wink:

YES.

We should start a drive to get Tim Miller the Presidential Medal of Honor.

Anna on the phone now!

YES,  We should!  Great idea Rob!

ANNA sounds Great as always....

Sorry to jump in.

What is we had a SM store on ebay for TES?

Any items a Monkey wants to donate to auction/sell at the SM atore for TES would be responsible to mail to the buyer.

PS I never sold anything on eby so don't know details.

Hey Monkeys.

Great Job Dana and Red. Really neat!

Thanks Anna!

Anna is on.  Listen up.  She wants to keep in theme with fundraiser.  Re: NH.  She knew of them but knows more of them since NH.  Joe Hughston, Tim, etc.  She is asking you to send what you can --- even if it is only $10.  I am groveling.

She is discussing Dompig who did not allow the search.  She is saying that offends all the people in Aruba and those who discuss.  Asking for an attitude adjustment on the part of the Aruban officials.  Anna loves Jossy, however.  I know that.  

PLEASE CALL!  He has time for one more call.

Good idea NM.  I've sold stuff on ebay before, but not sure how to setup a fundraiser auction.  Worth checking into!

 Ditto.. Great job Anna..

great show... very proud of "my" boys... :wink:

Thanks, Tyler.  You can rest those fingers now.  Thank you.

FANTASTIC PROGRAM, DANA AND RED.   THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF TEXAS ES.  What a great human being that Tim Miller is.  I raise my cup to Rob who has always said he is an international hero and to Anna and Sleuth who are top monkey callers!

where is my sister in Dean... SAN???/

YES ANNA!  GREAT CALL!  :wink:

Thanks, I am so tired I am dragging today but I do hope if TES goes back to Aruba to do that deep water search, they are NEVER met with what they encountered last time!  Never again!

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8)

Yeah! I got to hear Anna and Sleuth.

I'm in bed and typiing is a problem :lol:

Last week I might have agreed with you but when we got home Tues evening and the phones were out it was a little scary because later we lost electricity for a few hours. It was bedtime and I kept thinking what either DH or I would do if we had an emergency. Remember Klass we are old. We do have neighbors close by but would they wake up or answer the door in the middle of the night. Especially with the power off. Most of them are older also. Our younger neighbors husband works nights and he has called us in the middle of the night from work to go check on her if he could not reach her.

I also am not sure we can get a cable modem connection. I know we could get broadband or at least I think we can. I will have to check on that.

 AMEN, ANNA, and thank you on behalf of all the monkeys

YOU AND SLEUTH are exceptional and great callers and supporters.

Thank You

they are all at http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/radio/

just go to the archives to see the back shows. I clean them up (and compress them so the download is easier) and get them out usually a couple of hours after the shows end.

Tonight's show may have to wait till the morning as it is 2 and a half hours so it will probably take me the same amount of time to do all the work to it and get it ready as a podcast.

DANA - You are such a great host.  Thanks for teaming up with Tom and Red to bring Scared Monkeys Radio.

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It would be tough without you guys and those top monkeys for sure.

Thanks Tom!

 I did not do much at all. But YW.. Tyler was awesome.


Again TY to Dana and Red and everyone.

 Thanks for taking my call  :wink:

You're pretty good with those twinklefingers on the keyboard yourself!  I am amazed you could whip out that amount of text so quickly!   :shock:

Fabulous job and also from Angie for the assist!  I read so much better than I listen for some reason.

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Tom, Thank you for the behind the scenes work!

Tgal and Angie thanks for transcribing.

Niters Sweet Monkeys.

I'll get to work on it.

Maybe I talked too long and prevented somebody else from being able to call in?  But I did want Aruba put on notice that we are watching for them to do that again to TES and they better not!

I don't want them treated that way again.  They were already in Aruba before they were told they couldn't have their equipment.  That just sucks!

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Anna - you were great and you didn't talk too long.  I bet Dana was getting pretty tired anyway.  I'm tired just trying to keep up with everyone, lol  :lol:

I enjoyed Dana’s program even with the frequent buffering interludes at my end.  I think even I would like going to an event like that and I don’t get out much these days. lol

Thank you, Rob.  See if the "Great One" has any ideas about a fundraiser.  I know how to make the calls and get the money if you can get me a mission and the targets.

EASY - I bet you would have loved it!  Maybe you can go to the one next year like Dana!

I think you would be a great person to help host such an event.  You might be ill but you have the skills and wherewithal to delegate a lot of work.  You and Rob both.  Get something going with Mrs.  and Red and I will do all I can.

Just let us know what we can do to help!

I was just looking on TES website to see what options there are to help, for those of us that may not be able to travel, etc....   I mean even if it's make some phone calls, help organize local events,  whatever...  I really want to do more than just donate money.  I want to give my time.

It is such a small thing.  I am embarrassed.  You guys that call, you, Anna and CBB, Old Fart, and who do programs and people like Dana Red, Tom, Mrs. Red, Klaas who keeps it going, et al, make Tim keep going.  He needs calls as much as money because that supports him.

Same here.. Since we are not that far away from one another Dinhannah.

Hey Anna- great call.

Ya know the Dutch have their own Navy and Marines and I'm sure they don't just sail those bid ole boats with out sonar. I'm sure if they wanted they could look at sea for Natalee. Then again, I'm sure they could break up some concrete too... if they truly wanted.

With out that concrete removed, I'll never be convinced they did everything they could. But hey, that's just me. Some people like to believe that the F-16 did a remarkable job too.

I think there is a lot that can be done.... letter writing, etc...

Exactly!  we could work together!

You and I and others like us are the support group  Let's get Red, Mrs. Red, Rob, Easy, et al, working so they can assign jobs to us.  That Klaas has enough.  Let's try to help her so that Dana and Tim can help the families of missing family members.  This monkey business is a team!  Let's go forth and support and work.

:?:  :?:

Tyler, you were great.  Angie, so were you.  Each one does what they can.  

Everyone can do something - like Tim says when he is asked what is needed most, he says pray.  Some have time, some have $, some have talents that they can utilize.  Even being here and being supportive of the family and Scared Monkeys, TES and Scared Monkeys Radio - all monkeys keep them going..

Mrs. Red.  Could you ask Red to ask them firsthand some ideas on what we can do from a distance?  I know we would ALL love to help, we just need to know how.   The nice thing is, we spread all over and can do alot of positive things across the country.

Gotta run.  Bye for now monkeys..

 There are a few posters her in PA.. we are a few hours away from one another,, be great to meet up perhaps? Just a thought.  But wth do I know.

When people call (even the nutz) it does make for an interesting show.  Not to minimize Dana’s key roll as a host, but the calls from the listeners can really set it apart from anything else on the air right now.

Unfortunately, so many of us that frequent blogs prefer the written word and are not real keen on telephone conversations.  :P

Nite Slueth...  :wink:

Thanks, Rob.  And I am with you 100% on the concrete.  Remember they still dig it up in this country with all the technology we have.  They just do, and always if poured after a person vanished.  I don't think sonar picks up thin summer weight fabrics and things like that well.

And I think the F 16's were already scheduled for a training session and they just renamed it to try to make it appear to be looking for Natalee.  What an odd way to search when just a piece of corrugated tin would obstruct finding her!  Like trying to shoot an ant with a shotgun.  Not a good idea.  Those jets were new to The NL and they needed to train their pilots and let Chavez see their new toys as well.  Had little if anything to do with Natalee.

JMO

i wrote News week to nominate Red,Tim,and Tom for the men of the year,also ABC.I will help if needed,and I have helped in the past at fundraising.

 Good night Sleuth.. Great job you did on the phone

sorry great show.

I will talk to Red when he gets back and start a thread in the lounge for a list of what to do etc....

I think there are all kinds of things to do....

Be back in a bit - need to stretch my legs, lol  :lol:

Actually, there is not a bashful bone in my body about phone calls.  Write me your thoughts.  I will do the calling; that was my calling in life.  :lol:  :lol:

Toot toot.  Tiger, let me know.  You know us Virginia gals are good at calling.  Give me sources and I will call for cash.

Great,  Thanks Mrs. Red!

I will Tyler,soon.If you want my addy,Klass can give and I can share in detail,without tying up the blog

Klaas, I am sending e-mail.

Good idea Tyler.  I'll admit, I'm not the most creative person, but give me a task(s) and I'll run with it!

nite nite,kate the wonder dog is calling

 :shock: Hope you are not referring to me and Sleuth, Easy.

You sound fine when you call yourself and I really wish you would do so.  Someone was mentioning earlier what a good Master of Ceremonies you would make and I tend to agree with that.  Perhaps you could consider some such role at some time and also put a plug for TES on your blog if you don't already have one.   Maybe there is an Alabama fund raiser for TES in their future some day.

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Angie, hush. I've talked to you a bunch and you sound fine and I've never had a problem hearing you. You silly thing, you.  :wink:

I would love to help too in any way I can.  Klass has my email.

I can't find the post but someone said you can donate to EquuSearch through Paypal.  Is that through the Network for Good site?

I have sold on Ebay too.  There is a way to sell where the money goes to a charity.  If anyone wants me to check it out just let me know.  Maybe everyone could send stuff to sell to those who know how to do it and the profits would go to EquuSearch.

Nice to see you again.

Monkeys.... thanks so much for all the support...

I have some chores to do and gotta get out of the cage.... but keep the faith... and I will see y'all soon!!

Marlee!  We both live in Ohio.  Wherabouts are you?  We could work together on whatever comes up to work on!

 You are one of the few BT..lol  TY

ROB

 I just sent you an email about an idea.. if you can check it. thanks!!  :D

I am in Toledo.  Where abouts are you?

 goodnight Mrs  Red!

Marlee, sorry, don't expect you to say on the internet and of course you don't have to tell me if you don't want.   Klaas has my email if you want to get in touch with me.....

I'm in Columbus...  So not too far.   We have some PA friends too we could try and hook up with.

LOL  I just noticed you wrote whereabouts....didn't see that when I wrote my whereabouts....must be an Ohio thang :lol:

LOL,  I'm sure you've seen the Ohio resident emails that go around.... If not, I'll have to find one and send it... So true!    :lol:

That's only a couple of hours and I love going to Columbus.  Yep on the PA monkeys too.  Let's see what Red can come up with for us.

No, I was not referring to you and Sleuth!  I was thinking back to the time someone called in with the Indian accent and later Dana asked if there was a Bombay, Michigan. lol  I was rolling on the floor for a good 30 minutes with that one!  Or, the time Renfro called in and made a fool of herself.  I sat here thinking DAMN! lol

The funny stuff is funny and the hateful stuff can be zapped!

 I sent an email to Rob about this.. and those who are in the area.. a few hours apart?   Have not heard back yet? But be nice to do something.. What I dont know off hand.. but I am sure we can think of something..:)
 I cant think right now.. I am really stressed about work and really emotional right now.. and I cant stand myself even.  lol

I've been meaning to ask poster "Buckeye" where they live.  I am assuming in OH.  Who else would use that as a name  LOL

Is it a good emotional, I hope?  Do I need to come over and kick somebodys butt at work????

Glad you let Rob know.  At least the PA and OH posters can try to get together.

Well, driving about two hours will get me to a lot of places where monkeys live, so if someone wants to give me a fundraiser job to do, just let me know.l

Laughter is the best medicine!  :wink:

I think Buckeye said he lived in OH at one time but don't remember where he said he lives now.  But... once a Buckeye fan always a Buckeye fan!

I don't think I have seen the Ohio email.  If Klass doesn't mind giving you my email I would love to see it.

If Klaas sees this, we want to swap emails.  Marlee,  I have to find them.. They are hilarious and so true....

lol I can kick butt .. trust me! Its sad emotional.. no days off..hectic schedule..and got sad sad news today. :(
  .. sighhhhhhhhh.. one of my best friends hubby.. has to have his leg amputated Monday.  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:   They are taking it very hard.. and he is suicidal.. :(   he is in the hospital THANK GOD!  People are on my last nerve at work.. and sometimes you can bend over backwards to be nice to others.. and it dont matter what you do.. They dont give a shit.
So why should I?  lol I can answer that.. I have a heart!  :)  <ok I am talking to myself and that isnt good..lol .lol >

The truth of the matter is, there is not one single monkey who would not give their all to help a man like Tim who does the work we all wish we could do but lack the skills, the money, the wherewithal, to do, although we do not lack in the advocacy.  We all want to get this done.  There is no more noble cause than rising up to help someone who has lost a loved one to bring some kind of resolution to their dilemma.  Have you ever lost a loved one to death that was guaranteed?  Has your child ever slipped from your area for a few seconds?  Have you ever nurtured someone who has lost a loved one in a disappearance case?  No monkey here wants to be left out.  Everybody wants to help.  All we need is guidance.

This is a fantastic group of people, some of the best people I have ever dealt with in my life.  This "Missing People" thing --- it does not discriminate.  It does not read the social register.  It crosses the racial barrier, the social barrier and the borders.  It is a frightful thing and it can happen to use.

Everyone here wants to do something bigger than he or she is and wants to lay down at night tired, but knowing that he/she made a difference!

You are not talking to yourself!  Cause I'm listenin'.  Sorry to hear about your friend.  If it helps, my neighbor had MS and had to have his amputated.  He has an artificial leg and that man literally does way more than my Husband does with both his legs!  He is truly amazing and NOTHING holds him back!   He's always out cutting grass, yardwork, I mean ANYTHING... So please tell your neighbor that....  
And as for YOU,  you need some time off.  You are getting burnt out and need a break!

 I could not have said it better. :cheers:

Tyler!  YOU just took the words out of my mouth.  I just coulnd't have said it as well as you!  That is sooooo true!
We also know, this could happen to ANY of US.  We ALL have loved one's who we could lose.  God Forbid!  But it's always a possibility and I can't think of anybody else, but having you all at my side!

Dihannah - I just sent you Marlee's email addy  :wink:

So true Tyler and so eloquent.... I will try and make sure to post a thread in the lounge and we will take assignments.... I don't know what all Red, Tim, Cheryl etc have discussed already.  Red was so busy that I didn't barrage him with calls... (not that I usually do...  :lol: ) but I will make sure to give out assignments....

Yes, that was a very entertaining performance!   :D I, too, get a kick out of some of the stunts some have tried in the past.  Not boring, for sure.

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 Great post Tyler

Thanks Klaas!

Y'all, Dana's show was so good tonight that I ironed 20 cotton shirts while I was listening to it, and the process was almost painless.  :lol:

Great job, Dana!

Just stopping in for a moment and it looks like I came at the right time. Excellent post, Tylergal...MrsRed, please let me know what I can do...oh, and hi everyone!! I'm doing a lot of work here at the house, but i'll try and come back later...Hope everyone is doing well tonight!!

Howdy, Mishy.

Tell your friend there is no need to be suicidal about the loss of a limb.  It can be a very rough journey, but light does shine at the end of the tunnel.  The body does adapt and the pain subsides to a degree.  I will never forget my first attempt to walk without crutches on my prosthetic limb.  The pain was so excruciating that I thought my life had ended.  Day by day I toughened and the nerves became less sensitive.  With time I learned to live with the discomfort and I have been used as an example to others.

I will never run a marathon, but I get around very well now and most have no clue I am an amputee.  There are many very helpful support sites available across the internet and I would be glad to share those links.  One of the biggest helps to me was talking to a young woman that had lost her leg in an accident.  She was a Greenpeace advocate and had no time for cosmetic prosthetic work.  She wanted something that would hold up in adverse conditions and could be patched with duct tape and a coat hanger.  Her views taught me much.

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 I am burnt out.. and she wants me to be at the hospital with her Monday for his surgery. and I cant..  :(  I cant get the damn day off cause I have to run the store.. talk about feeling bad for not being able to be there for  2 people I really care about.  It sucks bigtime.  They both understand I have my job to do.. and I am pissed I guess that I have worked for others when they needed it? My problem is I am too nice at times.. and cant say no.  :roll:  and get walked on for it too. But not much I can do. since I HAVE to be there at work..  :evil:  If it were a family member of mine.. I would QUIT!

While you were away ironing shirts, you got commended for posting the site of Texas ES and are asked to not let anyone here forget it.  You are such a great person to keep this going and the "don't forget."  Just keep it going.  We want to be reminded to help.  We want you in your sweet little sock monkey way to remind us frequently to help Tim Miller who spends 24/7 helping others.  

You are such a little sock monkey diplomat that you can keep reminding all of us without offending anyone.  You would be a great advocate for his website. PLEASE.  (I am groveling).

Easy - you are a very strong and brave person, and I'm proud to have you as my friend.

wow thank you.
:-)

Wow, good idea.  I shoulda got on some chores like that and got them done painlessly.  I hate doing laundry.    :lol:

Awww...Tyler, you are the real diplomat.

You know, a lot of churches use sock monkeys to help children's causes. I wonder if they could be used in some way to help TES. Hmmmm.........

Angie, just remind her that she is in your prayers but you have an obligation and being the friend she is, you know she would never neglect her responsibility to her loved one and neither can you -- that you still have children at home and your first obligation is to care for them which means financial support and you must work, but let her know you will morally and spiritually be with her.  I know you will.  You always are there for everybody but Angie too has limits.  "Family first."  Remind her she is doing exactly what you are doing --- thinking of family first, that you love her and will be her best advocate but "family first."  Sometimes family means unpleasant things like changing diapers, removing bandages, applying bandages, washing the toilet and no greater task hath any man or woman than providing for family - even monetarily and remind her that the best and only thing you can do at that point is prayer which is supreme.  Nothing quite matches prayer realistically.

Anna - that's perfect!  :lol:

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EASY  TY and I am going to print out your post if you do not mind and make sure she reads it and her hubby. TY..
 You have my email addy.. and if you could email me links to give them .. I would appreciate it. NO HURRY.  !!
 God love yah too Mike..  hugs to you.!

Think on it.  I think it could.  If we could get someone who could "talk" for the sock monkeys like a puppet and someone who is very familiar with them like our BT --- I bet there is money to be made for worthy causes.

  :)  I iron as I need to.. lol
Fantastic show Dana.. one of THE BEST!

Awwwe, Ange,  Sometimes it sucks being too nice at times.   My opinion is, you need to find a new job.  Something less stressful and somebody who can use your experience and talents.   Your a smart girl and with your past experience, I KNOW there is something out there for you.  Customer service is such a thankless job, especially when you managing in that type of environment.  If you friend is a true friend, she will just have to understand, you have to do what you have to do now, but understand you are with her in spirit.   I'm she she knows that!

Easy, what a great voice you are.  A good looking man like you who has suffered a limb loss and who writes as well as Tennessee or Melton.  I think you need to fulfill your calling.

I do not mean to pontificate here because it is not nice, but my neurologist sends MS patients my way with whom I talk, because he knows that I have enjoyed a rich, full life (not monetarily, but enjoying life) beyond my diagnosis.  I have been unable to walk or see and yet I saw the light at the end of the tunnel because there were people like you who inspired me and I want to inspire others that some of us are not whole but we lead wholesome lives.  Thank you for reminding us of your infirmaty for your great spirit and love for mankind.

Hey BT.  Marlee and I are going to check on Ebay auctions for fundraising.  We could possibly use some?  I can think of several ideas with that.....  :D

Uuuuhhhh,  YEssss...  I used the link tonight and made a donation!  So thank you for posting it!  :wink:

W0W! Truly AwEs0Me post!!!

I so agree.

Angie I got your email.

Rob,  please let us know what we can do.  We have OH and PA posters not too far off, that we can get together and do something.

Hi Monkeys!!  I agree with both points here, I iron only when I NEED to. One of Dana's best shows yet!

 She knows.. trust me.. they are in my prayers. I shed alot of tears today. Sad news. I cryed with her on my cell and I was at work.  :(
  His brothers  and sister and sons come into the store as well... they could hardly speak today when I saw them. All were on their way to go see him.   I told each and everyone of them to let   I am thinking of Ron ...  I hope he makes it thru surgery..  he has a bad heart too.  :(
   Im gonna shush up now.. TY Tyler.

Ange,  Tyler speaks so much better than I.  I do hope you see my post about my neighbor a page or so back.  He is an inspiration, please let him know what to expect.  He will lose nothing, it will just take some time and prayers.

You are also in my prayers, for being such a wonderful friend!

 I am sure you can come up with something.. if we can all put our heads together.. be great.  Thanks.

You have already done a lot for her by letting us know so that we will all be pulling for them and praying for them.  No greater friend --- and we will be there spiritually for her because of you, Angie.  Now, don't worry.  Some things are just not possible to accomplish and there are only 24 hours in the day and most households only have one mommy and men have only one wife --- so just be assured you have done all you can.  I can tell you are very worried about this.  Try not to be.  You do all you can and worry is your worst enemy.  So quit, lay it at the feet of the Lord and their doctors and be done with it for tonight.  Carress her head and tell her you love her.  Reach out to tell her that you care and do what you can but she too must leave it in the hands of the doctors and her maker.

OK, got the links for Dana's show and the downloads do work... I am finding that sometimes the page indicates that the connection isn't working, try back later, etc., like there might be a bandwidth problem or something.

Or maybe just SOOOO many Monkeys using it at once... yeah, that's probably it  :wink:

Tyler,  you are so special and have such a way with words.  What a real angel....