Home
Blog
Radio
Missing Persons
Crime
May 21, 2024, 08:05:30 AM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
Home
Help
Login
Register
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09 - 3/19/09
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09 - 3/19/09 (Read 229333 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Buckeye
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 5376
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #800 on:
March 19, 2009, 10:56:49 AM »
Could you post the "blame Joran" post in red, so I don't miss it?? I'm not good at the business connections so I sometimes skim.
Logged
Lifesong
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2223
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #801 on:
March 19, 2009, 10:58:49 AM »
Quote from: Lifesong on March 19, 2009, 10:53:57 AM
Caps was blaming the USA over a year ago
. Seems some are a little late to the party.
If I see a post where he blames Joran, I'll be sure and post it...
CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #1139 on:
January 24, 2008
, 09:04:16 PM »
Quote
"I need a name for an USA CASINO MOB BOS war planner Planner that is connected or have links to the FBI or DEA
No kiddnaper because no kidnap,
..."
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg331977#msg331977
He called out on it immediately too:
Casa
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #1141 on:
January 24, 2008
, 09:15:31 PM »
Quote
So you like others are blaming this on someone from the USA and absolving anyone from Aruba? Where have we heard this before? I admit this is a different approach though!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg331979#msg331979
Logged
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #802 on:
March 19, 2009, 11:28:15 AM »
END OF SUBJECT I GUESS
I'm biting my tongue
Logged
Buckeye
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 5376
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #803 on:
March 19, 2009, 11:32:02 AM »
Quote from: klaasend on March 19, 2009, 11:28:15 AM
END OF SUBJECT I GUESS
I'm biting my tongue
Sheesh....the kid is going to get the wrong info regarding the scientific process:
http://www.idealtruevalue.com/servlet/the-66525/Detail
Logged
Lifesong
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2223
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #804 on:
March 19, 2009, 11:34:59 AM »
Quote from: Buckeye on March 19, 2009, 11:32:02 AM
Quote from: klaasend on March 19, 2009, 11:28:15 AM
END OF SUBJECT I GUESS
I'm biting my tongue
Sheesh....the kid is going to get the wrong info regarding the scientific process:
http://www.idealtruevalue.com/servlet/the-66525/Detail
Logged
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo
Buckeye
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 5376
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #805 on:
March 19, 2009, 11:36:46 AM »
Thank you Lifesong.
Logged
Buckeye
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 5376
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #806 on:
March 19, 2009, 11:37:40 AM »
That bag might not be big enough for some heads...
Logged
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32407
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #807 on:
March 19, 2009, 11:43:03 AM »
Quote from: klaasend on March 19, 2009, 11:28:15 AM
END OF SUBJECT I GUESS
I'm biting my tongue
I think she's serious too...that's the scary part.
Wonder what Kyle would have to say about all of that.
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #808 on:
March 19, 2009, 11:46:09 AM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2009, 11:46:11 PM
Do Lou and Johan honestly believe that their expertise in analyzing the ROV images exceeds that of Kyle Kingman.
I am a believe in Kyle Kingman's own words.
Janet
+++++++++
KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS
Kyle Kingsman:
The sediment in this case is fine-grained sand which is preferencially deposited to make a body form. For sand to preferentially deposit, there needs to be a lower energy state where the sand collects and stays. This can be achieved either with a shallow depression creating accomodation space and lower potential energy (not the case) or by creating small eddy currents due to surface friction. The sediment around the door area is being eroded or removed by currents. Where the body was, it is being deposited. Basically, the fabrics created enough resistence for sediment to preferentially collect on it. Further, bacterial staining due to decaying organics acts as a mild cementing agent. Combined, you will have sediment erosion around the body form and deposition on the body form which collects through time. In this case, possibly 2 1/2 years.
The Search for Natalee Holloway
Monday, November 26, 2007
I. Mobilization
Key Personnel:
Kyle Kingman
- Field Project Manager, Geophysical Engineer and Marine Geologist - Responsible for side scan sonar acquisition, digital processing, analysis, and target identification. Kyle will assist in side scan sonar operation and guide the ROV (remotely operated vehicle) team to each sonar target.
Posted by Kyle Kingman
http://jlbworld.com/files/chapter23/sitedevotedtoseasearch.htm
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007/11/mobilization.html
Kyle Kingman
Geophysicist and Marine Geologist
Greater New York City Area
Current Manager at Kingman Geophysical Solutions
Past Manager at Kingman Geophysical Solutions
Education Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey-New Brunswick
Kyle Kingman’s Summary
Kyle Kingman’s Specialties:
Project Management, Sonar Acquisition, hydrographic survey, data processing,
remote sensing data analysis
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/b/65/464
BUMPED
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #809 on:
March 19, 2009, 11:56:28 AM »
Quote from: texasmom on March 19, 2009, 11:43:03 AM
Quote from: klaasend on March 19, 2009, 11:28:15 AM
END OF SUBJECT I GUESS
I'm biting my tongue
I think she's serious too...that's the scary part.
Wonder what Kyle would have to say about all of that.
Lou and Johan
You must believe that Kyle Kingman's own words were all fabricated. There is not another way to explain your contradictory analysis of the trap and its contents.
Janet
++++++
THE SKULL
KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS
Kyle Kingman:
Dateline (Tim Uelinger) had an agreement with Tim Miller to 'do a story to tell about and help promote TES and give TM recognition, and perhaps a 10 minute side-line story on Natalee along with 11 other missing persons. Dateline tagged along with TM for a while pre-NH search. They (TM and Dateline) came on the Persistence between 15-Dec and 30-Dec. I found the trap on 1:45am Christmas morning. I got the OK to begin our ROV dive series for the 29th, so I made it our first dive. We got visual of the fish trap and that it was suspicious.
Basically, the fish trap door was open and there appeared to be a skull and torso-shape in sand on the door inside the trap
Reviewing the 29-Dec video I noticed the torso shape in sand had a 90 degree angle and that the sand was supported from falling through the bottom of the trap, which was slightly excavated by currents. I proportioned out the distance from the top of the head, to shoulder, to that 90 degree angle and it was a match to Natalee's photo of her standing -head, to shoulder, to the end of her denim skirt. I showed TM the proportional match and the possibility of a skirt under the sand and he said he's going to tell the parents. I said definitely not until we sample the trap and get results. He made the call to Dave and Beth independently.
Kyle Kingman:
The most likely to remain at or near it's original location was the skull,
which is why I was so convinced the object pictured was a skull.
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #810 on:
March 19, 2009, 11:57:00 AM »
Quote from: Buckeye on March 19, 2009, 11:37:40 AM
That bag might not be big enough for some heads...
Logged
hotping
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3747
All Prayers Will Be Answered in Time!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #811 on:
March 19, 2009, 12:07:05 PM »
Good Morning/Afternoon Monkeys!
New Lifetime Movie to Spotlight Missing Teen
By Kristin Brzoznowski
Published: March 18, 2009
LOS ANGELES: The true story of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, an American teen who vanished while vacationing in Aruba, is the backdrop of a new Lifetime Movie Network original film.
Tracy Pollan of Law & Order: SVU stars as Beth Twitty, Holloway's mother. Alongside Pollan are Grant Show (Swingtown) as Beth's husband, Catherine Dent (The Shield) as Beth's best friend and newcomer Amy Gumenick as Natalee. The movie is based on Twitty's book, Natalee Holloway: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith.
Natalee Holloway will premiere on April 19 at 8 p.m. on Lifetime Movie Network. Immediately following the film, the channel will air a special public service announcement featuring Beth Twitty about how to remain safe while traveling abroad. Natalee Holloway is produced by Sony Pictures Television for Lifetime Television.
http://www.worldscreen.com/articles/display/20187
Logged
In God We Trust!
Prayers Will Bring Natalee Home!
May 2010 Bring Natalee Home to Rest In Peace!
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #812 on:
March 19, 2009, 12:15:08 PM »
I have some Zip Lock bags that are one inch by two inch that have loose gemstones I got in S. America. Sounds about right for the brain of some people. Yes, it is very scary that they are serious in thinking baggies only come in one size when every grocery store has several.
Have to agree that not even the larger ones would hold the big headed egos of some people who always know more than the experts on any given subject when in reality they are so wrong every time.
Remember the lecture we got on cadaver dogs and scents from armpits which are used by only S&R or tracking dogs! Totally WRONG on all counts but went on and on and on about it.
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #813 on:
March 19, 2009, 12:19:30 PM »
Lou and Johan
When Kyle Kingman's position on board the Persistence is considered ... it could be assumed that his "opinion" is derived from a foundation that reflects his field of expertise.
Janet
+++++++
A REMINDER
ROV ANALYSIS - TRAP AND SAMPLIES
The fabric - The Tarp - The vertebrae - The Skull
Kyle Kingman:
Dateline (Tim Uelinger) had an agreement with Tim Miller to 'do a story to tell about and help promote TES and give TM recognition, and perhaps a 10 minute side-line story on Natalee along with 11 other missing persons. Dateline tagged along with TM for a while pre-NH search. They (TM and Dateline) came on the Persistence between 15-Dec and 30-Dec. I found the trap on 1:45am Christmas morning. I got the OK to begin our ROV dive series for the 29th, so I made it our first dive. We got visual of the fish trap and that it was suspicious. Basically, the fish trap door was open and there appeared to be a skull and torso-shape in sand on the door inside the trap Reviewing the 29-Dec video I noticed the torso shape in sand had a 90 degree angle and that the sand was supported from falling through the bottom of the trap, which was slightly excavated by currents. I proportioned out the distance from the top of the head, to shoulder, to that 90 degree angle and it was a match to Natalee's photo of her standing -head, to shoulder, to the end of her denim skirt. I showed TM the proportional match and the possibility of a skirt under the sand and he said he's going to tell the parents. I said definitely not until we sample the trap and get results. He made the call to Dave and Beth independently.
Kyle Kingman:
I took the proportions of the body form from the head, to shoulder, to a 90 degree angle which I believed to be the hem line of Natalee's skirt. I then took those proportions and matched them to the photo of Natalee with what she was last seen wearing. The proportions matched within an inch from head, to shoulder, to skirt line. Based on this comparison and with what we believed we saw in the Dec 29th video, Tim Miller contacted the family and told them the 99.9% comment. I told Tim not to do anything until we have forensic results back after the site is processed. Jan 7th we sampled the contents and in my opinion we found the skirt under the sand along with the other items The blue fabric was found right where the skirt is pictured. If it isn't her, it will forever haunt me as a major cosmic WTF.
Kyle Kingman:
We all know it wasn't a blouse, but I believe they were sent some piece of fabric other than the fabric found inside the trap.
Kyle Kingman:
The portion of the discolored blue fabric was presumably on the bottom of the fabric. In my opinion this discoloration is not another type of fabric, but rather biological staining or discoloration from biological growth caused from a high organic carbon content and decay. Basically, during decay a biological mat will form around the organics from remains. This is what I believe it is on the bottom of the fabric.
Kyle Kingman:
It was confirmed by the FBI that they received a fabric sample send by Richardson and that it wasn't a match to Natalee's blouse. I think the video can prove or disprove whatever the FBI was sent was the same object or not. I strongly believe it's blue denim.
Kyle Kingman:
Notice the end of the skirt is an identical match to the 90 degree angle in the sand. I believe her left arm was outstretched with her legs slightly bent. I did not edit the legs. I believe the tarp was placed over her and tucked around her, or perhaps tied down. I believe there are several rocks laying on the sand which were placed on the tarp, or inside the tarp over her body which explains their unusual location. Either way, the proportions appear promising.
Kyle Kingman:
The fabric(s?) are not visible on either the Dec 29th or 30th dives. There is about an inch of sand over the fabrics. The fabrics are completely covered. The diver sampled the sand and found the fabric underneath the sand. He then bagged the blue fabric. If the other bag contains fabric, it was also in the sand. There was also something possibly recovered from far inside the trap. In the video the diver is inside the trap with just below his knees showing. I don't know what was sampled far inside the trap if anything.
Kyle Kingman:
In my opinion that last pic from Jan 7th should be absolutely intriguing and flip your mind from what you thought you knew. In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric.
Kyle Kingman:
Notice the blue fabric swayed in the current.
Kyle Kingman:
The blue tarp piece was found approx 6-10 ft away from the trap opening.
Kyle Kingman:
I am 100% confident other important items are at that site and can be found during processing of the site with a suction system. The only confirmation of items sampled were blue fabric and the piece of tarp. This is the only thing Richardson and Mos independantly confirmed. Remember, they each only confirmed one piece. One confirmed blue fabric, the other confirmed tarp. From the video you see both.
Kyle Kingman:
The most likely to remain at or near it's original location was the skull, which is why I was so convinced the object pictured was a skull.
Kyle Kingman:
… John verbally BASHED me about the trap for what I said to Tim Miller about the sand body-form and that I believed her skirt was under the sand
Kyle Kingman:
I'm sorry if this is disturbing. I took the picture of Natalee standing on the beach and cropped, rotated, and scaled the image to correlate with the trap body form. Notice the end of the skirt is an identical match to the 90 degree angle in the sand.
Kyle Kingman:
The bag that is above the denim bag looks to me as though it contains pieces of vertebrae.
Kyle Kingman:
As of the 2nd week of Feb, this is what I had learned from the FBI: The contents of the trap were being actively investigated. The forensic results of a fabric sample showed the fabric sample was not a match to Natalee's blouse and that no DNA match to Natalee was found within that fabric sample. Human remains were found, but the FBI was not and would not comment on the case. The FBI did not comment on the remains, but rather the fabric sample.
Kyle Kingman:
In my opinion, the blue fabric is quite possibly Natalee's skirt. The divers found the denim where I suggested a week earlier (Dec 29th) to Tim Miller that there was likely Natalee's denim skirt under the sand. Also in my opinion, the deni-like fabric is a match in terms of color, quantity, and structure to Natalee's skirt. It's not a lot of denim folded in the bag, but then again her skirt was rather small.
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #814 on:
March 19, 2009, 12:21:03 PM »
Quote from: hotping on March 19, 2009, 12:07:05 PM
Good Morning/Afternoon Monkeys!
New Lifetime Movie to Spotlight Missing Teen
By Kristin Brzoznowski
Published: March 18, 2009
LOS ANGELES: The true story of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, an American teen who vanished while vacationing in Aruba, is the backdrop of a new Lifetime Movie Network original film.
Tracy Pollan of Law & Order: SVU stars as Beth Twitty, Holloway's mother. Alongside Pollan are Grant Show (Swingtown) as Beth's husband, Catherine Dent (The Shield) as Beth's best friend and newcomer Amy Gumenick as Natalee. The movie is based on Twitty's book, Natalee Holloway: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith.
Natalee Holloway will premiere on April 19 at 8 p.m. on Lifetime Movie Network. Immediately following the film, the channel will air a special public service announcement featuring Beth Twitty about how to remain safe while traveling abroad. Natalee Holloway is produced by Sony Pictures Television for Lifetime Television.
http://www.worldscreen.com/articles/display/20187
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #815 on:
March 19, 2009, 12:24:11 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on March 18, 2009, 09:34:40 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on March 18, 2009, 09:17:14 PM
Klaas, do you still have that picture of the cage with the diagional measurment
on it? Isn't it 42" on the bias?
To calculate the diagonal you multiply the length of one side of the square by the square root of 2.
BUMPED!!
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #816 on:
March 19, 2009, 12:25:12 PM »
And no one is going to make me believe for one moment that Natalee's family approves of stalking posters, posters who have supported them from the time it was only a local rumor that one of the MB students had gone missing. Stalking posters and even their children who are exactly Natalee's age or a few years older and on the same path Natalee would have traveled had she survived her trip to Aruba.
Stalking and trying to collect personal information that is none of their damned business.
At least I am 99% certain Beth would never go along with that kind of cheap behavior. She has far far more class than that.
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
2NJSons_Mom
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 11324
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #817 on:
March 19, 2009, 12:29:02 PM »
Quote from: hotping on March 19, 2009, 01:01:20 AM
http://www.oisolutions.net/news.html
Offshore Innovative Solutions
May 2008: Mexico Job Demar/Pemex
4-1-08 to 4-18-08 OIS charted a boat from Gulf Fleet to head down to Del Carmen , Mexico to do a 20'' and 8'' p/l inspection. Using our Sub-Atlantic SuperMohawk with an Innovatum Smartrack and 704 Bathy with video overlay the crew inspected 25 Kilometers of 20'' p/l and approx. 1 kilometer of 8'' p/l along with Marsopa platform riser inspections and rock bed survey. Check back soon for pictures.
2/26/08 OIS IS MOVING:
We are combining our Lafayette office and St. Martinville shop into one facility on Commission Boulevard in Lafayette just a block away from Southpark Industrial Parkway. The move will take place during the month of March. Our new address is 100-A Commission Blvd., Lafayette, LA 70508. The office phone numbers will remain the same.
12/15/2007 Offshore Innovative Solutions is currently part of the search for Natalie Holloway
More events and news to follow
But no news or updates since the search for Natalee......hmmmm
On OIS experience page there's a picture of a vessel, named Commander. Since they manage their ROV equipment on chartered ships, this makes sense.
Commander is owned by Adams. See specs here:
http://www.adamsoffshore.net/pdf/occapplot.pdf
Last job news listed on OIS site mentions Gulf Fleet charter. Gulf Fleet signed an agreement May, 2007 with an investment firm based in Miami.
http://www.gulffleet.com/site6.php
H.I.G. Capital Invests to Expand Gulf Fleet Management
May 1st, 2007-H.I.G. Capital, a leading Miami-based private equity firm, has announced it has completed a significant investment in Gulf Fleet. H.I.G. Capital is dedicated to management buyouts and recapitalization of middle market companies as well as growth equity investments.
H.I.G. partnered with management to consummate the transaction. "We are pleased to work with H.I.G. to leverage their oil patch experience and continue growing our business" said Mike Hillman, the Chief Executive Officer of Gulf Fleet Management. "The recapitalization of Gulf Fleet Management allows us to continue growing our fleet of first-class vessels, and gives us the flexibility to follow our customers from Brazil to Alaska, from West Africa to the North Sea, and throughout Shallow and Deep Water assignments in the Gulf of Mexico." For more information about H.I.G. please see their website
www.higcapital.com
.
more here about the news release:
http://www.higprivateequity.com/cms/NewsRelease.aspx?id=264
NOTE: Contact info & address
FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT:
Jeff Zanarini
jzanarini@higcapital.com
H.I.G. Capital, L.L.C.
1001
Brickell Bay
Drive
Miami, FL 33131
(305) 379-2322
Logged
R.I.P Dear 2NJ - say hi to Peaches for us!
I expect a miracle _Peaches ~ ~ May She Rest In Peace.
SOMEONE KNOWS THE TRUTH
None of us here just fell off the turnip truck. - Magnolia
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #818 on:
March 19, 2009, 12:29:59 PM »
I never believed the Kalpoes parents owned any motel. Nor that Patrick van der Em lived across the street from them and the dates given were long before Deepak and Satish arrived in Aruba.
But the idea that Jossy and even Julia attended a sex party where Natalee was killed fits the phrase I heard this morning.
Crazy as a Soup Sandwich!
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
«
Reply #819 on:
March 19, 2009, 12:32:57 PM »
2NJ,
Remember Grande? I think you just entered his territory. He was terrific at those corporate things and did a lot of work on the Bickell Bay connections. I know they are just offices but still, contact is contact.
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Up
Print
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09 - 3/19/09
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
FORUM RULES
-----------------------------
=> Forum Rules and Tips
-----------------------------
Polls, Polls and more Polls
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons Polls
=> Current Events/News Polls
=> Crime and Trial Polls
=> Just For Fun Polls
-----------------------------
Missing Persons - High Profile
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons High Profile
===> Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
===> Kyron Horman - Portland Oregon
===> Caylee Marie Anthony - Florida (BODY FOUND)
=====> Caylee's Law - by State
=======> Caylee's Law - text
=======> ALABAMA
=======> ALASKA
=======> ARIZONA
=======> ARKANSAS
=======> CALIFORNIA
=======> COLORADO
=======> CONNECTICUT
=======> DELAWARE
=======> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
=======> FLORIDA
=======> GEORGIA
=======> HAWAII
=======> IDAHO
=======> ILLINOIS
=======> INDIANA
=======> IOWA
=======> KANSAS
=======> KENTUCKY
=======> LOUISIANA
=======> MAINE
=======> MARYLAND
=======> MASSACHUSETTS
=======> MICHIGAN
=======> MINNESOTA
=======> MISSISSIPPI
=======> MISSOURI
=======> MONTANA
=======> NEBRASKA
=======> NEVADA
=======> NEW HAMPSHIRE
=======> NEW JERSEY
=======> NEW MEXICO
=======> NEW YORK
=======> NORTH CAROLINA
=======> NORTH DAKOTA
=======> OHIO
=======> OKLAHOMA
=======> OREGON
=======> PENNSYLVANIA
=======> PUERTO RICO
=======> RHODE ISLAND
=======> SOUTH CAROLINA
=======> SOUTH DAKOTA
=======> TENNESSEE
=======> TEXAS
=======> UTAH
=======> VERMONT
=======> VIRGINIA
=======> WASHINGTON
=======> WEST VIRGINIA
=======> WISCONSIN
=======> WYOMING
=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
-----------------------------
Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
-----------------------------
=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
-----------------------------
High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
-----------------------------
=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
-----------------------------
Missing, Exploited and True Crime
-----------------------------
=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
-----------------------------
Natalee Holloway
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
-----------------------------
Current Events and Musings
-----------------------------
=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
-----------------------------
The Monkey Lounge
-----------------------------
=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
-----------------------------
Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
-----------------------------
General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
Loading...