Lively Case Discussion #609 4/30/2007

[Leslie]

From what Jossy said on Fox earlier about the information coming from   "the original suspects" - does it not sound as if the Kalpoe's are talking?

Was Steve Croes an original suspect.

No.  The original suspects are Mickey John and Abraham Jones  
and Joran, Deepak and Satish.  But Deepak did tell MJ about the "around the pool" meeting with Joran's family.

[Kimmy53]

I am dying to know what Joran is doing right now and what he is thinking about his house being dug up.  I wonder if daddy and JVS are stupid enough to talk on a phone to go over any of there 'stories'....

Well, I'd love to say he's crapping in his pants........  

[Rob]

DANA FOR JOSSY:

1) Is it possible the "tip" came from one of the Kalpoe's?
2) Where did the tip come from? (I'm betting he won't divuldge what he suspects, so I that's why I asked no.1)
3) WHY would they dig up the driveway? It was there before Natalee went missing, right? (If it's just to mess up Paulus' Day, that's good enough for me, but I just wondered).
4) Any rumours of arrests pending or what they've found?
5) Are they looking again at the physical evidence previously collected? (car seats luminoled, bones found, belt found, etc.)

DANA for TIM:
1) When are you going to Aruba
2) What caused you to go now?
3) Where are you searching?
4) How long will you be there?
5) Please convey to him that a prayer vigil in support of his efforts will be ongoing while he's there.

Dana for Larry.
1) where is Deepthroat?

[Tylergal]

Media tonight:


Dave is to be on Nancy Grace tonight.
Time:  8:00 pm Eastern
Replay:  10:00 pm Eastern & 1:00 am Eastern


John Q. Kelly is to be on Greta tonight.
Time:  10:00 PM Eastern
Replay:  1:00 AM Eastern

Ah hem.

I would rather hear Dana.  He will have Tim and Jossy, who will be as honest and forthcoming as possible.  I know that Dave always tries to play nice and not divulge nothing and demand anything.  JQK is not going to say anything that is not known.  He knows to keep things close to the vest.  He will just be there to make an appearance on Greta.  I am sure his knowledge is 10 to the 10th power for what we have but he knows how to keep a secret and keep tight-lipped, something impossible for Taco.  He just talks to hear himself talking, anything that prune face tells him to say.

[SunnyinTX]

Klaas? Is there somewhere I can post those questions for Dana that he'll see them?

BTW: SUNNY Your avatar is in the lounge.  

thanks...

[bleachedblack]

Holland is 5 hours ahead of me here. Time here - 3:39 pm time there 8:39 pm.

so it is 5 hours not 6, thanks Rob!

Well that's the way I remember it from when I was dating a girl from Holland... maybe Im wrong.. there is that possibility.  

Hmmmm did she break-up with you because you were always late for your dates?    

BB
She worked for her father that owned a lumber company in Holland and they developed a product that used garbage bags and saw dust to make some super hard stuff and were working with a company lumber company in the States called Snavley, based here in Pittsburgh, who was going to be their US distributor... we split up because her year visa was up and she went home to Holland.

Wonder what happened to her-

I was only joking Rob ....because you were having time discrepancies...get it, late for the date . I can't tell jokes well in person either....sorry    Sounds like you had a little soft spot in your heart for her.......ahhhhhh young love.  

[snoopy]

So who was hiding in those bushes??

Honestly?  I'vel ooked at that picture at least 20 times, and only one time did the picture jump off the page at me.  And it was definetaly Joran or either..........ya ready for this????........the guy in the wild painted van from waaay back that some were trying to say was Lorenzo. Very square jaw line.
      Not kidding!!!

Now when I look at the picture I can't make anything out.

[dkpen]

Jossy says he feels it may be one of the original suspects.

That could be anyone of them since there are several of them, IF this is the case.

Joran
Kalpoe's
Paulus
Steve Croes
Freddy
GVC
Guido
2 Guards

[klaasend]

Klaas? Is there somewhere I can post those questions for Dana that he'll see them?

BTW: SUNNY Your avatar is in the lounge.  

CBB - I just emailed your questions to Dana.

[SunnyinTX]

wow.  i definitely thought that was Anita.

I don't think any of us KNOW for sure who was lurking where....we saw pvds come out after a while....I wouldn't doubt that both he and anita were lurking behind the bushes....and since NONE of us were there....your guess is as good as anyone elses

[Observer]

Dana for Larry.
1) where is Deepthroat?


Rob..That whole thing pisses me off!!! Thats all we needed was another writer/reporter capatalizing on NH.

[klaasend]

TONIGHT:

8PM EASTERN - NANCY GRACE

9PM EASTERN - DANA PRETZER

10PM EASTERN - GRETA

Going to be a busy night I think, lol  

[Rob]

Holland is 5 hours ahead of me here. Time here - 3:39 pm time there 8:39 pm.

so it is 5 hours not 6, thanks Rob!

Well that's the way I remember it from when I was dating a girl from Holland... maybe Im wrong.. there is that possibility.  

thanks for confirming my assumptions.  Another site is reporting it as 7am not 7pm which wouldn't make sense to me.

It could have been 7 pm when the posted it.. SF didnt post it here til 3:30 which would have made it 8:30pm in Holland and over an hour to have been on the board.

Am I making any sense today?    I keep confusin myself.. and Im writing the same words again and again... and I look at my posts and I say to myself.. WTH am I writing

[Tylergal]

From what Jossy said on Fox earlier about the information coming from   "the original suspects" - does it not sound as if the Kalpoe's are talking?

Was Steve Croes an original suspect.

Guido was questioned very early on.

[Rob]

Dana for Larry.
1) where is Deepthroat?


Rob..That whole thing pisses me off!!! Thats all we needed was another writer/reporter capatalizing on NH.

you said it not me *******!

[Observer]

So who was hiding in those bushes??

Honestly?  I'vel ooked at that picture at least 20 times, and only one time did the picture jump off the page at me.  And it was definetaly Joran or either..........ya ready for this????........the guy in the wild painted van from waaay back that some were trying to say was Lorenzo. Very square jaw line.
      Not kidding!!!

Now when I look at the picture I can't make anything out.

Probably Joran..Young man was scared to death back then..

[kathyn2]

Its so nice to see everyone again!!  At least this new search has brought us all out again so we can say HELLO.   I hope and pray it leads to the discovery of what happened to Natalee.   I can't believe the spin ol Joe Taco is putting on it all.   I do think the Dutch got some info and I hope it pans out into good news for Beth.

[SunnyinTX]

Media tonight:


Dave is to be on Nancy Grace tonight.
Time:  8:00 pm Eastern
Replay:  10:00 pm Eastern & 1:00 am Eastern


John Q. Kelly is to be on Greta tonight.
Time:  10:00 PM Eastern
Replay:  1:00 AM Eastern

Ah hem.

I would rather hear Dana.  He will have Tim and Jossy, who will be as honest and forthcoming as possible.  I know that Dave always tries to play nice and not divulge nothing and demand anything.  JQK is not going to say anything that is not known.  He knows to keep things close to the vest.  He will just be there to make an appearance on Greta.  I am sure his knowledge is 10 to the 10th power for what we have but he knows how to keep a secret and keep tight-lipped, something impossible for Taco.  He just talks to hear himself talking, anything that prune face tells him to say.

I am with you.....I'll listen to Tim and Jossy.....but JQ is sure good on the eyes....might have to watch him .....and Dave too....aw heck I'll do my best to catch all of them

[Tylergal]

From what Jossy said on Fox earlier about the information coming from   "the original suspects" - does it not sound as if the Kalpoe's are talking?

Was Steve Croes an original suspect.

those in Holland San would be Lorenzo, Guido and Joran..

I think that would be it.. unless Van Cromvoirt is there.

Yeah, I think GVC is there.  He went after his release.

[bleachedblack]

From what Jossy said on Fox earlier about the information coming from   "the original suspects" - does it not sound as if the Kalpoe's are talking?

Was Steve Croes an original suspect.

Guido was questioned very early on.

I think he was considered a witness?