Lively Case Discussion #651 7/4 - 7/6/2007

[Tamikosmom]

tamikosmom-

Reading Mip6's tour around the forums it's abundantly clear he likes making manipulations to stir the pot. I hope these posts aren't just lip service by Robin, I do fear that. Do you suppose Robin is reading MiP6's as well? One can hope.......forgive me but who trusts a man who worked for Rob Smith and was willing to serve up in a deposition very negative statements about Beth? It's only a matter of time before they go after Robin........

none ... you could be right.

However ... I am clinging to the hope that Robin has bowed.  I am praying that her words challenging the Aruban position of Mark Purcell and Julia Renfro in the "The Other Side of the Holloway Story" aricle was just a beginning ... a beginning in the road to mending the gulf that has been created in the Pro Natalee/Family camp by her relationship with a man who has submitted posts to various Natalee forums which have dispicably portrayed Natalee, Beth, Jug, Dave and MB students as well as Jossy Mansur.

Janet

[Rob]

Janet- Thank You. I did see it.

There is a lot of info that has not been made public. I know some, you know some... others know some. There aren't many secrets after two years.

None of it leads to MB... and if it did I would be the first person asking for the FBI to Investigate Beth. I'm sure a lot of others would too.

Asking to look at areas already searched, including the lighthouse after 15 searches will not turn up anything at this point. Areas not searched should be.

Lorenzo was called in and questioned in the first 15-20 days of the case. His house should be searched again. (If it was searched the last time). And anyone else associated with the investigation.

This investigation can never be over until everything is searched. Even if Natalee is found in the sea.

As for Robin, I feel bad for her. She and others like her are in a bad place and need help to get Natalee back. Sometime people rely on people who take total and complete advantage of them.. Ask Mrs Bradley... she'll tell you what can happen.

I don't fault Robin, I fault those that are taking advantage of her kind heart.

[Easywriter]

tamikosmom-

Reading Mip6's tour around the forums it's abundantly clear he likes making manipulations to stir the pot. I hope these posts aren't just lip service by Robin, I do fear that. Do you suppose Robin is reading MiP6's as well? One can hope.......forgive me but who trusts a man who worked for Rob Smith and was willing to serve up in a deposition very negative statements about Beth? It's only a matter of time before they go after Robin........

none ... you could be right.

However ... I am clinging to the hope that Robin has bowed.  I am praying that her words challenging the Aruban position of Mark Purcell and Julia Renfro in the "The Other Side of the Holloway Story" aricle was just a beginning ... a beginning in the road to mending the gulf that has been created in the Pro Natalee/Family camp by her relationship with a man who has submitted posts to various Natalee forums which have dispicably portrayed Natalee, Beth, Jug, Dave and MB students as well as Jossy Mansur.

Janet

What ya want to bet that a phone call has already been made and a retraction of the earlier statement will be made before the day is through?  Then a new statement will be made that thanks MIP so much for his help.

[Tamikosmom]

Easy ... I hope not.

Janet

[klaasend]

Klaas, I sent you an email.

I just sent it to you back resized.  You can save to your PC and upload now into your profile from your PC.

[casa]

Thanks!  I'll give it a try!  

[Nut44x4]

I have no idea if this was posted here today or not...I have not seen it.
This was posted at FOB in Dutch...I did my best to translate w/ online thingy, lol. Anyway...here goes....
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Posted by MF at FOB
Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 11:54 pm

According to Dompig, they did not achieve everything they wanted to investigate in the States and the family because of the FBI "cooperation", but stressed that he was talking about the FBI stationed at Barbados, not the complete FBI, who in the beginning did a professional job.
~~~~~~~~~~
Regional Fbi-baas refused study into American side
4 Jul, 2007, 17:28 (GMT -04:00)

ORANJESTAD - the criticism on the FBI of rolled Dompig, former police
force commissioner on Aruba and time-long charged with the research of
the disappeared Natalee Holloway, has been aimed specifically at the
legal attaché of the Federal office or Investigation. This is the
highest official of the American federal police force in the Caribbean
region, stationed on Barbados.

These legal attaché ` disturbed the work of arubaanse politiekorps,
then last mentioned be able examine the American side the
collaboration of the FBI asked also of the matter. This says Dompig in
an explanation on Article in the Amigoe under the head ` police force
FBI yesterday thwarted.
This reported got meanwhile the full attention of the Dutch media;
among other things of DUTCH PRESS AGENCY, novum, Nu.nl, the world
broadcasting and the most rural and regional dagbladen. Provisions
tv-zenders predominate the video material of the makers Renée Gielen
and Dolph use van Stapele. It is unknown what has done the American
media with the information.

Dompig say in a closer conversation with this newspaper it jammer find
if the impression is awoken that ` the complete FBI frustrated the
work of police force and judicial authorities on Aruba.  "the FBI has
worked, certainly in the beginning, hard", says the oud-commissaris,
who itself has been rather trained in its career by FBI'ers and says
generally spared to have for their knowledge and working method.
The tegenwerking in the matter holloway became especially clearly then
the legal attaché with the American consul-generaal for the
Netherlands Antilles and Aruba on the island was and clearly Dompig to
understand did not give to have served of the request of the korps
collaboration, to be able hear schoolboys to the family Twitty and
Natalee's.

According to Dompig ` ' they threatened diplomatic impact ' even with
`. Police force and judicial authorities in oranjestad could itself
according to highest Fbi-baas in the region and the consul but improve
concentrate on local suspected, among which the three boys Joran of of
the ditch, Deepak and its brother Satish Kalpoe. Dompig have
eventually nevertheless laid down the request at the American
authorities.  "but what we all savages have not succeeded."
EXTORTION

With respect to the then stiefvader of Natalee Holloway, George ` Jug
' Twitty (of mother Beth meanwhile separated Twitty), Dompig the korps
specific study into him that does not say savage does, but the `
possibility of removal ' of Natalee wild examine.  "for that we had
more to be possible come concerning the contexts of the stiefvader."
The police force took into account, as it happens, seriously the
possibility of extortion of Jug Twitty, which as a president of
Phoenix Metals rich a man is and does matter internationally.
Fbi-topfunctionaris had not been stipulated there however of were
captivated.
THE DRIJFVEER OF THE MAKERS

Renée Gielen have been involved shortly after disappearance touched
in the matter holloway. They discovered gradually that the American
side remained in the research underexposed. Recent them again two
times were short behind each other on Aruba. She lays from what kind
of hair most important is:
* The time line on the day that the group schoolboys returned to
Alabama. That Natalee not present is at checking in to the mother is
just communicated after the children were by the customs authorities
and immigration, therefore on American territory. The mother is
reached in the car and she rings immediately 911 and the FBI with the
communication that its for the has been kidnapped on Aruba - there was
talk still no of. Within a couple hour them a complete gezelschap has
regulated ` that with her travels with in a private jet to Aruba. Them
comes to that with a large battery flyers with a photograph of its and
Natalee and a room arubaans phone number. On the flyer she calls on
contact with its Natalee to zoeken.
* The Twitty's have as from day one said that Joran possibly could the
Kalpoe's be and as enigen guilty to the vermissing of Natalee. The
study into possible suspected on American side by the Twitty's has
been frustrated, of which testifies Dompig. These ` high profile-zaak
did not go for money, for Natalee. Thus rolled Dompig.

* The fact that Julia Renfro and was involved Angela Dilorenzo in a
plan to bring Natalee living to the ambulance plane from crackhouse,
indicates that Joran of of the ditch cannot assassinated her.
Gielen since 1997 resident on Curaçao and have had ReGie plc in those
years six documentaries have been made from its own company. Also she
has a number of praatprogramma's and dertiendelige a serial concerning
health on its name stands. Also they correspondence clerk of two
topicality programmes in the Netherlands and has they room has been
taken programmes for the Netherlands produced.
Dolph van Stapele have been since 1996 resident on Curaçao. He came
be as a marinier and has left never more and has now own audiovisual
company. He is mainly operative as cameraman and editor. He twists
also room news for the Dutch broadcasting. All productions of Gielen
have been taken by Van Stapele and a number of this has been also
assembled by him.

last edited on Thu Jul 5th, 2007 04.30 am by MF

[casa]

Boy, I'm glad to be off that ball!  I was getting tired!

Thanks Klaas!

[Rob]

The FBI Station Chief in Barbados was dissed by Dompig and he was also the officer that asked Dompig specifically why he wanted the FBI assistance with the Condom Witness and Barbados wanted total verification from Dompig before they got involved again.

Even at this late date they were still willing to get involved and help.

However Dompig would not disclose his source and the FBI had had enough of his shenanigans. They declined the "chance' to get involved.

A source from Dompig is about as valuable as a piece of used chewing gum from Leif Garrett.

[Rob]

Renée Gielen, = PROMO-GANDA

[San]

The FBI Station Chief in Barbados was dissed by Dompig and he was also the officer that asked Dompig specifically why he wanted the FBI assistance with the Condom Witness and Barbados wanted total verification from Dompig before they got involved again.

Even at this late date they were still willing to get involved and help.

However Dompig would not disclose his source and the FBI had had enough of his shenanigans. They declined the "chance' to get involved.

A source from Dompig is about as valuable as a piece of used chewing gum from Leif Garrett.

Some people might not know who Leif Garrett is

[Nut44x4]

The FBI Station Chief in Barbados was dissed by Dompig and he was also the officer that asked Dompig specifically why he wanted the FBI assistance with the Condom Witness and Barbados wanted total verification from Dompig before they got involved again.

Even at this late date they were still willing to get involved and help.

However Dompig would not disclose his source and the FBI had had enough of his shenanigans. They declined the "chance' to get involved.

A source from Dompig is about as valuable as a piece of used chewing gum from Leif Garrett.

Some people might not know who Leif Garrett is

I agree Rob...
Oh..I seem to remember a cover of Teen Magazine.....teehee, along with posters and all that garb...

[Rob]

The FBI Station Chief in Barbados was dissed by Dompig and he was also the officer that asked Dompig specifically why he wanted the FBI assistance with the Condom Witness and Barbados wanted total verification from Dompig before they got involved again.

Even at this late date they were still willing to get involved and help.

However Dompig would not disclose his source and the FBI had had enough of his shenanigans. They declined the "chance' to get involved.

A source from Dompig is about as valuable as a piece of used chewing gum from Leif Garrett.

Some people might not know who Leif Garrett is

San-
SEE HOW VALUABLE THAT WOULD BE????

[klaasend]

The FBI Station Chief in Barbados was dissed by Dompig and he was also the officer that asked Dompig specifically why he wanted the FBI assistance with the Condom Witness and Barbados wanted total verification from Dompig before they got involved again.

Even at this late date they were still willing to get involved and help.

However Dompig would not disclose his source and the FBI had had enough of his shenanigans. They declined the "chance' to get involved.

A source from Dompig is about as valuable as a piece of used chewing gum from Leif Garrett.

Some people might not know who Leif Garrett is

Photo on the left from his hay day, on the right when he was busted for drugs:

[San]

The FBI Station Chief in Barbados was dissed by Dompig and he was also the officer that asked Dompig specifically why he wanted the FBI assistance with the Condom Witness and Barbados wanted total verification from Dompig before they got involved again.

Even at this late date they were still willing to get involved and help.

However Dompig would not disclose his source and the FBI had had enough of his shenanigans. They declined the "chance' to get involved.

A source from Dompig is about as valuable as a piece of used chewing gum from Leif Garrett.

Some people might not know who Leif Garrett is

I agree Rob...
Oh..I seem to remember a cover of Teen Magazine.....teehee, along with posters and all that garb...

Well things have changed for Leif.  He has a big drug problem now (putting it nicely).

[Rob]

It costs a lot of money to ship all the agents BACK to Aruba from Barbados and Miami. Not to mention food and housing.

There are only so many agents available for this type of investigation. Most of the FBI is involved in Terrorism. They don't have the man power or resources to ship agents all over the place based on Gerold Dompig's words.

All they asked for was verification which Dompig would not provide.

As we all know, the Condom Witness was no witness.

[San]

The FBI Station Chief in Barbados was dissed by Dompig and he was also the officer that asked Dompig specifically why he wanted the FBI assistance with the Condom Witness and Barbados wanted total verification from Dompig before they got involved again.

Even at this late date they were still willing to get involved and help.

However Dompig would not disclose his source and the FBI had had enough of his shenanigans. They declined the "chance' to get involved.

A source from Dompig is about as valuable as a piece of used chewing gum from Leif Garrett.

Some people might not know who Leif Garrett is

Photo on the left from his hay day, on the right when he was busted for drugs:

Yep

[Sue]

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[justinsmama]

Given the doggedness of Renfro's attempts at misdirection, I believe that she should definitely be investigated herself. Who, other than someone who was involved to some degree in the crimes against Natalee, behaves as Renfro has for the last 2 years?

[Rob]

Given the doggedness of Renfro's attempts at misdirection, I believe that she should definitely be investigated herself. Who, other than someone who was involved to some degree in the crimes against Natalee, behaves as Renfro has for the last 2 years?

I totally agree.