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Quote from: lillyfinn on February 18, 2010, 11:48:55 AM
There was a previous article (sorry don't have the link right now)
When Elizabeth contacted her Grandpa from jail, she asked him to pick up two things. An expensive ring and $300 cash. I hope the police have taken the ring as evidence (maybe since it has been described, they have) that article did not say how much the ring was worth.
Seems like a "down payment" maybe an heirloom (?) from the couple, plus they must have given her some cash as her original $2K she was estimated as having when she left Arizona would have run out before she left Texas.
The "couple" would have given cash to the "adoption agent". I am sure that person(s) would have required cash.
Legally, a bank or any financial institution is required to report to the IRS if a person makes a withdrawl or deposit of $10,000 or more. Most people do not keep large sums of money hidden at home but there are exceptions.
Now either this "couple" were wealthy to have such a ring or that is something of value they owned and they were not wealthy.
Tracking that ring to to jeweler or original owner. Unless Elizabeth purchased it, then the original owner would not matter. Again, Elizabeth would be smart enough not to keep on her person a large sum of cash. If Elizabeth received more than $10K, she could have divided it up into several bank or other financial instituions.
I seriously doubt that any relative (i.e. parents) or friend would have just given her that ring. Based on her parents having drug and alcohol issues. There have been no friends of Elizabeth to speak of, except for the Smiths.
Did the Smiths give her that ring? Instead of cash, a ring she could pawn when she needed more money? I hope not. I hope it tracks back to the "couple" that have Gabriel.
according to KPHO, Tempe PD have told them that Gramps came and picked her personal items up from the jail including the ring.
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Hello Monkey's,
Would a
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Thank you for the updates everyone. This jewelry development sure is interesting I wish they would show photos of it (if LE has the jewelry) in case someone would recognize the jewelry and tie to someone they might know or have seen. You just never know it might be a piece of the puzzle that could be put together.
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Nonprofit Takes on Missing Baby Search (with video)
Jessica's Law Now to cover some search expenses
A national organization is now stepping into the search for missing baby Gabriel. Police say his non-custodial mother, Elizabeth Johnson, kidnapped him and took him across the country last Christmas.
The national nonprofit organization "Jessica's Law Now" is offering to help with some of the search expenses for Gabriel's dad, Logan McQueary.
McQueary is in San Antonio, the last place Gabriel was seen alive. Police have opened up both a homicide and a missing persons investigation.
The organization will pay for McQueary's gas, hotel stay, and even the cost of flyers he's plastering all over the city.
This weekend, the organization is holding a fundraiser at Manny's Mexican Restaurant in Avondale.
The fundraiser will run will run Friday, February 19, Saturday, February 20, and Sunday, February 21, 2010 at Manny's, and will feature live music, dancing, and food. There will also be a raffle for a Kurt Warner autographed football on Saturday.
Manny's is located at 12345 West Indian School Road in Avondale.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/nonprofit-takes-on-missing-baby-search-2-16-2010
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Quote from: darla on February 17, 2010, 01:39:41 PM
I am not going to argue with you on the facts, but when my aunt and my dad passed away from Lung disease they were both blue looking. I am not talking about neon blue just a bluish grey color.It does not last lo9ng after death, but when you basically suffocate there is a bluish tinge to the skin.
Correct. The discoloration in life is called cyanosis, this is the result of inadequate oxygen in the bloodstream . After death even those without lung disease look grey/blue for a while. The face is pale, but the rest of the body has a very dusky hue.
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http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2010-101760
2/18/2010 002 - ME: Hearing Vacated - Party (002) 2/18/2010
2/10/2010 NSI - Notice of Supervening Indictment - Party (002) 2/11/2010 Plaintiff (1)
2/10/2010 606 - ME: GJ Not/Supervening Indictment - Party (002) 2/11/2010
2/10/2010 IND - Indictment - Party (002) 2/11/2010 Plaintiff (1)
2/5/2010 IAD - Initial Appearance Document - Party (002) 2/5/2010
2/3/2010 DCO - Direct Complaint - Party (002) 2/3/2010
1/26/2010 152 - ME: Not Guilty Plea Arraign - Party (001) 1/26/2010
1/21/2010 002 - ME: Hearing Vacated - Party (001) 1/21/2010
1/14/2010 IAD - Initial Appearance Document - Party (001) 1/14/2010
1/14/2010 NSI - Notice of Supervening Indictment - Party (001) 1/15/2010 Plaintiff (1)
1/14/2010 606 - ME: GJ Not/Supervening Indictment - Party (001) 1/15/2010
1/14/2010 IND - Indictment - Party (001) 1/15/2010 Plaintiff (1)
1/12/2010 DCO - Direct Complaint - Party (001) 1/13/2010
Case Calendar
Date Time Event
1/15/2010 8:35 Status Conference
1/20/2010 8:30 Preliminary Hearing
1/25/2010 8:30 Original Arraignment Hearing
2/8/2010 8:35 Status Conference
2/12/2010 8:30 Preliminary Hearing
2/18/2010 8:30 Original Arraignment Hearing
3/9/2010 8:15 Initial Pretrial Conference
4/5/2010 8:15 Initial Pretrial Conference
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In missing baby Gabriel case, a suspect pleads not guilty
Tammi Peters Smith, the Scottsdale woman implicated in the case of missing baby Gabriel Johnson, entered not-guilty pleas Thursday morning to felony counts of forgery and conspiracy to commit custodial interference in Maricopa County Superior Court.
She remains free on $15,000 bond.
Tempe police say they believe that Smith is withholding information about the baby's mother, Elizabeth Johnson, who has been charged with kidnapping, child abuse, custodial interference and conspiracy to commit custodial interference.
Johnson and the baby, then 8 months old, disappeared in December in the middle of a custody dispute with the baby's father. Johnson was later arrested in Miami and remains in custody. The baby has not been found, and investigators have not determined whether the child is alive. San Antonio police are searching a landfill in that city because the baby and Johnson were last seen together there, shortly after Christmas, and because Johnson had initially told the boy's father that she had killed him and thrown his body in the trash.
She later recanted the story.
Police and prosecutors believe that Smith, 37, provided Johnson with adoption advice and contacts for a place to stay after she fled with Gabriel. And the forgery charge comes from an allegation that she falsified documents as to who isthe child's father.
Smith had no comment as she left the courtroom Thursday,
but her attorney Amy Nguyen,
said that they do not know why Smith has been charged.
"We know it has nothing to do with the disappearance of baby Gabriel," Nguyen said. "It's all speculation at this point. We haven't been given any information by the state."
Nguyen said that Smith was "anxious to get it behind her."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/02/18/20100218missing-baby-gabriel-not-guilty-plea0218.html
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Enema woman has a new attorney according to that last article : Amy Nguyen
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Quote from: Northern Rose on February 18, 2010, 03:22:03 PM
Enema woman has a new attorney according to that last article : Amy Nguyen
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5 years since Amy Lynn Nguyen was first licensed to practice law in AZ.
See license details Hide license details
State License status Year acquired Last updated by Avvo
Arizona Active 2004 07/11/2008
http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/85012-az-amy-nguyen-419726.html
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She works inthe Mimerer & Derrick offices. Guess Kimerer cost too much
AMY L. NGUYEN
Graduated from Arizona State University College of Law in May, 2004, cum laude. While at the College of Law, she clerked at the Federal Public Defender’s Office, Capital Habeas Unit, and interned with Judge Robert C. Broomfield of the Federal District Court for the District of Arizona.
Ms. Nguyen joined law firm of Kimerer & Derrick, P.C. as an associate attorney in 2004, where her entire practice is dedicated to criminal defense in state and federal courts. Although most of her practice consists of trial level cases, Ms. Nguyen also represents defendants in various levels of appeal, including direct appeal, Rule 32 Petitions for Post Conviction Relief and Federal Petitions for Habeas Corpus Relief.
Ms. Nguyen is admitted to practice law in the State of Arizona, the Federal District Court for the District of Arizona, and the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. She is also a member of Arizona Attorneys for Criminal Justice (AAXJ) and Arizona Women Lawyer’s Association (AWLA).
http://www.thefirmthatcares.com/amynguyen.html
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The shite cleaning business must be slow right now
to have to settle for a relatively Jr lawyer.
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Quote from: seahorse on February 18, 2010, 12:25:19 PM
Hello Monkey's,
Would a
serial number
be inside of an expensive ring for insurance purposes?
I am not sure about that but I do know that for expensive jewelery the jewler would leave his mark on it somewhere.
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The information about the ring is interesting but what I don't understand is why LE didn't file it as possible evidence? To be honest, when I first heard of the ring I didn't think twice but shouldn't they have? No wonder they give jewelery rather then money, seems to work.
Northern Rose you are so funny, I just love your sense of humor.
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Quote from: Northern Rose on February 18, 2010, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: seahorse on February 18, 2010, 12:25:19 PM
Hello Monkey's,
Would a
serial number
be inside of an expensive ring for insurance purposes?
I am not sure about that but I do know that for expensive jewelery the jewler would leave his mark on it somewhere.
Thanks, NoRose.
What if JS gave that to EJ? He must have a collection of stuff from Wills... the way they operate, jmo.
LE may know where it came from and must be legit. jmo.
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Quote from: Northern Rose on February 18, 2010, 03:33:35 PM
The shite cleaning business must be slow right now
to have to settle for a relatively Jr lawyer.
Could it be this attorney will barter? You know exchange for goods and or services?
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I guess it is not uncommon to give fine jewelry in these underground adoptions. It is not has traceable. The more I learn about this case the more I am shocked this stuff goes on.
I can't believe they (LE) turned this ring over to the grandfather. Maybe at the time they were thinking she killed the baby or gave him away. Not really understanding she could have sold him in a underground adoption. Or as Mark Klass would say human trafficing.
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Quote from: Missiontoconvict on February 18, 2010, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on February 18, 2010, 03:33:35 PM
The shite cleaning business must be slow right now
to have to settle for a relatively Jr lawyer.
Could it be this attorney will barter? You know exchange for goods and or services?
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Quote from: seahorse on February 18, 2010, 03:57:12 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on February 18, 2010, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: seahorse on February 18, 2010, 12:25:19 PM
Hello Monkey's,
Would a
serial number
be inside of an expensive ring for insurance purposes?
I am not sure about that but I do know that for expensive jewelery the jewler would leave his mark on it somewhere.
Thanks, NoRose.
What if JS gave that to EJ? He must have a collection of stuff from Wills... the way they operate, jmo.
LE may know where it came from and must be legit. jmo.
I think LE messed up with the ring IMO. EJ clearly knew it had to be hid as why else would she tell Gramps that he needed to get it?
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Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!
Northern I agree with you on the ring. LE should have kept that until they found where it came from. A picture of that ring broadcast may be the one link that can find Gabriel. I remember her telling her grandpa to come get her money and the ring. But had no idea it was such an expensive one.
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