Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/30/2007

[shadow]

well, I did run updates when I got it a couple of months ago, but haven't since. Everything was fine on the mac until I went to my profile and started changing some stuff and then it wouldn't let me on again...

Take care everybody!!! These quote stacks are hard to get used to, but I love this "post reply" window!! Very nice!! 

See ya Mishy!

[mishy]

angie, if you're still here, did you ever get the email I sent to your aol last night?

 Mishy I never did get it???    AOL is being screwy bigtime.. its pissing me off. I get some emails.. hit reply and off it shoots a blank one. Mrs Red emailed me and I tryed 3 times til she finally got my reply. I dont use AOL to be on SM but use it mainly for emails.  You can call me if you want Mishy. Hope there is nuttin wrong? 

no sweetie, I was just curious. I just had a question, but I now have the answer...

Thanks everyone for your help today!!! I'm off to do some

[Destiny]

Well it's nity nite time for me....see Ya all in the mornin'

Destiny

[shadow]

Ahh I'M sorry Shadow..I should have known..Seems like 90% are females on this forum..sorry

Don't even worry about it  . . . just thought I should let you know.

[shadow]

Well it's nity nite time for me....see Ya all in the mornin'

Destiny

Good night Destiny!

[Slogger]

Well it's nity nite time for me....see Ya all in the mornin'

Destiny

Thanks, Destiny; and thank you (all) for the warm welcome.

Goodnight

[sirensong]

Hi to all the new monkeys!

I have a couple things in my mind right now about what Joran said in his book.  He admits he lied on the night Beth came to town, and asked Deepak and Satish to lie and say they dropped her off at the HI.  It leads me to believe, that whatever was going on, the K2 new full well.  I am thinking they provided the drugs.  They believed his story about leaving her on the beach.  They were shocked to find that Joran told Freddy he left her on the beach.  
I think something went wrong in the car, or at the light house?, and Joran had them drop him and Nat off, saying he would take care of it.  That's why they asked "how's the girl" the next day. HE needed THEM to lie for him. Joran was also relieved that the police hadn't gone to K2's house that night, since "everyone knew Deepak's car".  He was setting them up from the beginning.  I don not believe they picked him up.   I believe alot of answers can be found in Jorans book through his thinking he is so smart, but he has messed up.
 I also noted he said he didn't want to have sex without a condom, "because who knows who else she had been with".  He mentions the group of people with Beth that night of the 30th sticking up for "thier little angel".  I think this was a revenge rape for her not falling for thier advances earlier in the week, (his and his pimp buddies).  I can just see it now, big man that he is, he will take care of" this little bitch".  There is so much anger in his talk of her, I am sure she was targeted.  He most likely did drug her the night she had to be helped back to the room.  Just to get back at her for not being the little American slut he thought all the tourists were.  When he saw the reaction, he knew he could do it again and take her out of CnC's himself.  She didn't go with them willingly.  

[sirensong]

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[shadow]

Hi to all the new monkeys!

I have a couple things in my mind right now about what Joran said in his book.  He admits he lied on the night Beth came to town, and asked Deepak and Satish to lie and say they dropped her off at the HI.  It leads me to believe, that whatever was going on, the K2 new full well.  I am thinking they provided the drugs.  They believed his story about leaving her on the beach.  They were shocked to find that Joran told Freddy he left her on the beach.  
I think something went wrong in the car, or at the light house?, and Joran had them drop him and Nat off, saying he would take care of it.  That's why they asked "how's the girl" the next day. HE needed THEM to lie for him. Joran was also relieved that the police hadn't gone to K2's house that night, since "everyone knew Deepak's car".  He was setting them up from the beginning.  I don not believe they picked him up.   I believe alot of answers can be found in Jorans book through his thinking he is so smart, but he has messed up.
 I also noted he said he didn't want to have sex without a condom, "because who knows who else she had been with".  He mentions the group of people with Beth that night of the 30th sticking up for "thier little angel".  I think this was a revenge rape for her not falling for thier advances earlier in the week, (his and his pimp buddies).  I can just see it now, big man that he is, he will take care of" this little bitch".  There is so much anger in his talk of her, I am sure she was targeted.  He most likely did drug her the night she had to be helped back to the room.  Just to get back at her for not being the little American slut he thought all the tourists were.  When he saw the reaction, he knew he could do it again and take her out of CnC's himself.  She didn't go with them willingly.  

Hi Sirensong. You are on to something here . . . but I think Joran knew who had been with Natalee against her wishes. IMO.

[klaasend]

Hi to all the new monkeys!

I have a couple things in my mind right now about what Joran said in his book.  He admits he lied on the night Beth came to town, and asked Deepak and Satish to lie and say they dropped her off at the HI.  It leads me to believe, that whatever was going on, the K2 new full well.  I am thinking they provided the drugs.  They believed his story about leaving her on the beach.  They were shocked to find that Joran told Freddy he left her on the beach.  
I think something went wrong in the car, or at the light house?, and Joran had them drop him and Nat off, saying he would take care of it.  That's why they asked "how's the girl" the next day. HE needed THEM to lie for him. Joran was also relieved that the police hadn't gone to K2's house that night, since "everyone knew Deepak's car".  He was setting them up from the beginning.  I don not believe they picked him up.   I believe alot of answers can be found in Jorans book through his thinking he is so smart, but he has messed up.
 I also noted he said he didn't want to have sex without a condom, "because who knows who else she had been with".  He mentions the group of people with Beth that night of the 30th sticking up for "thier little angel".  I think this was a revenge rape for her not falling for thier advances earlier in the week, (his and his pimp buddies).  I can just see it now, big man that he is, he will take care of" this little bitch".  There is so much anger in his talk of her, I am sure she was targeted.  He most likely did drug her the night she had to be helped back to the room.  Just to get back at her for not being the little American slut he thought all the tourists were.  When he saw the reaction, he knew he could do it again and take her out of CnC's himself.  She didn't go with them willingly.  

BINGO

[shadow]

Hi to all the new monkeys!

I have a couple things in my mind right now about what Joran said in his book.  He admits he lied on the night Beth came to town, and asked Deepak and Satish to lie and say they dropped her off at the HI.  It leads me to believe, that whatever was going on, the K2 new full well.  I am thinking they provided the drugs.  They believed his story about leaving her on the beach.  They were shocked to find that Joran told Freddy he left her on the beach.  
I think something went wrong in the car, or at the light house?, and Joran had them drop him and Nat off, saying he would take care of it.  That's why they asked "how's the girl" the next day. HE needed THEM to lie for him. Joran was also relieved that the police hadn't gone to K2's house that night, since "everyone knew Deepak's car".  He was setting them up from the beginning.  I don not believe they picked him up.   I believe alot of answers can be found in Jorans book through his thinking he is so smart, but he has messed up.
 I also noted he said he didn't want to have sex without a condom, "because who knows who else she had been with".  He mentions the group of people with Beth that night of the 30th sticking up for "thier little angel".  I think this was a revenge rape for her not falling for thier advances earlier in the week, (his and his pimp buddies).  I can just see it now, big man that he is, he will take care of" this little bitch".  There is so much anger in his talk of her, I am sure she was targeted.  He most likely did drug her the night she had to be helped back to the room.  Just to get back at her for not being the little American slut he thought all the tourists were.  When he saw the reaction, he knew he could do it again and take her out of CnC's himself.  She didn't go with them willingly.  

Hi Sirensong. You are on to something here . . . but I think Joran knew who had been with Natalee against her wishes. IMO.

edited to clarify: against her will

[IBE]

Thanks Klaas I went to the TES site but couldn't find any info on where they were searching. Anyone know if it is WLA (West Los Angeles) or Orange Co or Fla???

I downloaded the application, but if they are searching in the area where I live, the search will be over by the time they get the application by mail!

I 10 is the Fwy you take to go East!!! for sure.. to FLA branching off in other states and the 405 is for sure to Orange Co.

According to the Sex Offender DB there are many around this area. I worry about the children.

[klaasend]

Thanks Klaas I went to the TES site but couldn't find any info on where they were searching. Anyone know if it is WLA (West Los Angeles) or Orange Co or Fla???

I downloaded the application, but if they are searching in the area where I live, the search will be over by the time they get the application by mail!

I 10 is the Fwy you take to go East!!! for sure.. to FLA branching off in other states and the 405 is for sure to Orange Co.

According to the Sex Offender DB there are many around this area. I worry about the children.

Pretty sure it's calif.  Let me check, brb

[shadow]

If she did agree to go with them, she did not know who she was actually leaving with (driver & addl. passenger) or where she was really going.  She was obviously under the influence of something that was going to have a very strong effect in a short period of time. IMO

[klaasend]

IBE - definately California.  I suspect they will search in the Los Angeles area.  Maybe you can call the TES toll free number and ask them how or when you can volunteer?

[sirensong]

 ??:I wasn't done with my post, but I had trouble with my keyboard!!  Wanted to also say that I love the new forum, and thanks to all who made it possible.  And Hi to all the usual monkeys, too!

I PRAY something breaks in this case.  I just can't stand to see someone so evil walking around blaming his victim to everyone who will listen.  What a monster.    

I just saw the new smileys!!  Woo Hoo!  I luv smileys!

[casa]

Think I'm gone for the night.  I'll see everyone tomorrow!  Nite!

[klaasend]

Nite Casa!

[shadow]

Think I'm gone for the night.  I'll see everyone tomorrow!  Nite!

Nite Casa!

[IBE]

thanks Klaas I'm sort of upset by this... I'll stay online to see if you have info! Where he lived is "very close to home"  Ugh but lots of good people live around there too.

He rented a house... we'd he get that kind of money... House rents are about $2100 and up!!!