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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5/15 - 5/20/08 (Read 287611 times)
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KarmaRoundUp
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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May 16, 2008, 08:25:08 AM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on May 16, 2008, 08:14:18 AM
Quote Karma...
I agree but I do have to wonder why they waited so long to investigate this pond IF the side sonar picked up anything suspicious back in february?I also don't think that paulus would be stupid enough to let joran hide anything in a pond so shallow right there on land.Why dispose of Natalee's body way out in the ocean(if that's what happened)with not much chance of being found and leave ANY evidence in a shallow pond right under investigaters noses?
Good Morning...I am wondering if they were looking for the shoe as Caps has suggested. Driver's license, room key card...
I do recall something from Beth about a shoe. Foggy on this...was it a bloody shoe? With all the shoe talk of a while back, I am not sure if Dompig said one shoe or a pair of shoes.
Good morning
The shoe started out as one shoe with blood on it.That came from Beth's notes.There was even talk about joran trying to BUY one shoe to match the one that was not missing lol
The the shoe turned into a pair of shoes(per dompig I think).I really think the whole shoe thing is bs.So if they do find joran's shoe/s,Natalee's ID or anything that belonged to Natalee,what will they do with it?It sure won't be enough to convict anyone.Even if they find her body IMO that will only give Beth and Dave peace of mind and they will be able to properly bury her but even then........they won't be able to convict anyone.Sorry to be so pessimistic but that's what I think.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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May 16, 2008, 08:41:30 AM »
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on May 16, 2008, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on May 16, 2008, 08:14:18 AM
Quote Karma...
I agree but I do have to wonder why they waited so long to investigate this pond IF the side sonar picked up anything suspicious back in february?I also don't think that paulus would be stupid enough to let joran hide anything in a pond so shallow right there on land.Why dispose of Natalee's body way out in the ocean(if that's what happened)with not much chance of being found and leave ANY evidence in a shallow pond right under investigaters noses?
Good Morning...I am wondering if they were looking for the shoe as Caps has suggested. Driver's license, room key card...
I do recall something from Beth about a shoe. Foggy on this...was it a bloody shoe? With all the shoe talk of a while back, I am not sure if Dompig said one shoe or a pair of shoes.
Good morning
The shoe started out as one shoe with blood on it.That came from Beth's notes.There was even talk about joran trying to BUY one shoe to match the one that was not missing lol
The the shoe turned into a pair of shoes(per dompig I think).I really think the whole shoe thing is bs.So if they do find joran's shoe/s,Natalee's ID or anything that belonged to Natalee,what will they do with it?It sure won't be enough to convict anyone.Even if they find her body IMO that will only give Beth and Dave peace of mind and they will be able to properly bury her but even then........they won't be able to convict anyone.Sorry to be so pessimistic but that's what I think.
I agree -- bringing Natalee home is the
only
thing we can hope and pray for. Sadly, "Justice" ( in a judicial sense) will never happen in my opinion.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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Reply #122 on:
May 16, 2008, 08:41:38 AM »
Quote from: johan555 on May 16, 2008, 03:42:48 AM
Comment by AmericaninAruba | June 13, 2005, 1:10 pm
Van der lsoot says to the security guard that was jailed “that they left him at his house with natalee still in the car he exchanged emails with her and they took off (leaving JOran at home). The story is somethign that the 3 boys made up at home by the pool” adn now other kids also said that on monday Joran walked out
into the woods
by the school and stayed a while…maybe that was the 2 boys teling him about the “story”to tell?? and also here on aruba it is known that the
cousins
of the 2 Kalpoe boys are “dangerous” people who knows if they have soemthign to do with this?? They own a car rental here and they say they moved to aruba because they were bad in suriname and apparently they are moving form aruba to the US now
I wonder if the Kalpoe relatives that have a car rental agency affiliation...
own the rental jeep I see on the ARU-BAY / CHICAGO VIDEOS.
ECONOMY CAR RENTAL???? hmmmm
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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May 16, 2008, 08:44:59 AM »
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on May 16, 2008, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on May 16, 2008, 08:14:18 AM
Quote Karma...
I agree but I do have to wonder why they waited so long to investigate this pond IF the side sonar picked up anything suspicious back in february?I also don't think that paulus would be stupid enough to let joran hide anything in a pond so shallow right there on land.Why dispose of Natalee's body way out in the ocean(if that's what happened)with not much chance of being found and leave ANY evidence in a shallow pond right under investigaters noses?
Good Morning...I am wondering if they were looking for the shoe as Caps has suggested. Driver's license, room key card...
I do recall something from Beth about a shoe. Foggy on this...was it a bloody shoe? With all the shoe talk of a while back, I am not sure if Dompig said one shoe or a pair of shoes.
Good morning
The shoe started out as one shoe with blood on it.That came from Beth's notes.There was even talk about joran trying to BUY one shoe to match the one that was not missing lol
The the shoe turned into a pair of shoes(per dompig I think).I really think the whole shoe thing is bs.So if they do find joran's shoe/s,Natalee's ID or anything that belonged to Natalee,what will they do with it?It sure won't be enough to convict anyone.Even if they find her body IMO that will only give Beth and Dave peace of mind and they will be able to properly bury her but even then........they won't be able to convict anyone.Sorry to be so pessimistic but that's what I think.
Thanks Karma for the refresher on the shoe. I thought the bloody shoe came from Beth.
I agree that there won't be enough to convict anyone.
The peace of mind for Beth, Dave and their families is what I am hoping for.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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MOMOHIO here a shot ( pond area )
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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Reply #125 on:
May 16, 2008, 08:48:14 AM »
Quote from: carpe noctem on May 16, 2008, 08:41:38 AM
Quote from: johan555 on May 16, 2008, 03:42:48 AM
Comment by AmericaninAruba | June 13, 2005, 1:10 pm
Van der lsoot says to the security guard that was jailed “that they left him at his house with natalee still in the car he exchanged emails with her and they took off (leaving JOran at home). The story is somethign that the 3 boys made up at home by the pool” adn now other kids also said that on monday Joran walked out
into the woods
by the school and stayed a while…maybe that was the 2 boys teling him about the “story”to tell?? and also here on aruba it is known that the
cousins
of the 2 Kalpoe boys are “dangerous” people who knows if they have soemthign to do with this?? They own a car rental here and they say they moved to aruba because they were bad in suriname and apparently they are moving form aruba to the US now
I wonder if the Kalpoe relatives that have a car rental agency affiliation...
own the rental jeep I see on the ARU-BAY / CHICAGO VIDEOS.
ECONOMY CAR RENTAL???? hmmmm
I think there is some car rental info in the Shango thread. I will see if I can find it...Not sure how long ago it was posted...
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MumInOhio
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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Here is one that Pita posted...says here is another...so will look and see if there is anymore around ...last I checked the Registry was down...that was a couple of weeks back....Thanks Pita...
The Misier's own several car rental companies on the island. Here's another....Janira also owns the V.I.P. Club.
QUALITY CAR RENTAL, TOURS AND BOAT SERVICES N.V.
Business address NOORD 17, NOORD
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company QUALITY CAR RENTAL, TOURS AND BOAT SERVICES N.V.
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 18 FEBRUARY 1999
Last amendment in the articles 5 MAY 2000
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
BAIDJNATH MISIER-KELKBOOM, JANIRA FRANCINA;
Residing in ALTO VISTA 76-B, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 30 JUNE 1971
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 25 FEBRUARY 1999
Authority RESTRICTED
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MumInOhio
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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Here is the other one Pita was referring to...Thanks again Pita!
The Misier Car rental business in Aruba
http://www.american-car-rental.com/american/home.do
Johan
...still looking at the map...Thanks...Was the number in your email about Noord number 2 or 3? TIA
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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I don't know if this helps any, but here is the DEN, and the appartments Caps is talking about. Seems like we have been here before, no pun intended.
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May 16, 2008, 09:08:19 AM »
Morning! They also own American Car Rental (Kali's)
BAIDJNATH-MISIER, Anjali Rotterdam 4-11-1983 P-0039
BAIDJNATH-MISIER, Kawisch Rotterdam 2-6-1990 P-0041
BAIDJNATH-MISIER, Kawita Rotterdam 5-1-1985 P-0040
BAIDJNATH-MISIER, Presanderpersad Nickerie (Suriname) 8-5-1958 P-0038
http://www.american-car-rental.com/american/home.do
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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Carpe...I can't copy...ECONOMY CAR RENTAL
Listed under that Van Gijn Car Rental....hmmm...Jossy called Lorenzo van Gijn...Juge in Curacao named van Gijn...LOL...Carpe
http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_search.afp
Can anyone copy please...TIA
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A photo of the pond area taken around the beginning of February this year. For comparison...I promise you this is the same area that is now drained.
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WOW!!! Lala's I am impressed!!!
Hotshot...Thank you!!!
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Quote from: MumInOhio on May 16, 2008, 09:23:32 AM
WOW!!! Lala's I am impressed!!!
Hotshot...Thank you!!!
Morning Mum...and those photos are not photoshopped or anything like that. That is the Monserat pond in February of 2008.
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Here is a shot from back when Lorenzo was arrested and they were calling him Van
Gijn
in the Diario
Aruba Chamber of Commerce
you'll need to capture this stuff as it has some type of copy block built in.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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Thanks Lala's - February 2008
May 2008
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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Quote from: Rob on May 16, 2008, 09:35:06 AM
Here is a shot from back when Lorenzo was arrested and they were calling him Van
Gijn
in the Diario
Aruba Chamber of Commerce
you'll need to capture this stuff as it has some type of copy block built in.
Thanks Rob...only Diario called him van Gijn from what I recall. I found it suspicious, to say the least, especially when I found the Judge with the same name in Curacao.
Lorenzo had a little talk with a Judge and walked...
I posted about it in Shango 1.
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Maybe this judge is related as in cousin or uncle. Didn't one of the arrest blurbs of that 4th suspect person say related to a high level judge and we could never figure it out?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #752 5-15-08
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on May 16, 2008, 09:47:51 AM
Maybe this judge is related as in cousin or uncle. Didn't one of the arrest blurbs of that 4th suspect person say related to a high level judge and we could never figure it out?
The one I am thinking of is 'one is the son of a high level judiciary, the other the son of a lawyer' IIRC
That didn't make sense for the Kalpoes.
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