Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)

[Live*Learn*Love]

In the press conference right now, she said she doesn't know of any (of the suspects) vechicles being impounded but will follow up on it for the news.

[SunnyinTX]

Chelsea went missing on Thursday. He is arrested on Sunday with mud up to his knees. My question is, what do you suppose he had been doing to get mud up to his knees? To go out to dinner in public with obvious mud on the clothing, is like flaunting it...IMHO

Hi Shell...I have looked all over and can find nothing that confirms this statement that was made by 'someone'.....I can't believe this is true. I saw a statement in one of the news article that the person who waited on him at the restaurant saw nothing strange or odd about him.  I think mud up to his knees might be a tad odd.

[SunnyinTX]

I can't seem to find how many years he actually served of his 6 year sentence in the prior conviction... certainly not all 6 

SIX YEARS for his punishment makes me sick too! When will our injustice system 'get it'???
One strike, you are out...put away for the rest of your freakish, miserable life. Preferably  , but prison will do, lol.

I read somewhere, I think within last 6 pages here, that he served 5 years of a 6 yr sentence.

that's what I have read too...he could have and should have gotten 10 years.....if he had gotten the 10 years Chelsea might still be alive.

[piwannaberookie]

If you look up John Albert Gardner on the San Diego Court website, and scroll down to mental health, his name is listed under there at  least 5 times. http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/portal/page?_pageid=55,1056871&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

[SunnyinTX]

Apparently his vehicle or what was found inside of it was evidence when they found him.

Edward...where did you read this please???

[SunnyinTX]

In my humble opinion, the best thing that can be accomplished on the border states and California and Arizona in particular - is lock the borders, and begin executing those on death row.

Those new death sentences - process their appeal in a competent fashion and none of this 20-30 years (or dying of old age) on death row. Prisons are over-crowed by repeat offenders and certainly not building enough prisons. Personally I could careless if they are overcrowded, except it puts guards in danger.

When people respect the law - the crime rate goes down, and if it doesn't, alot of trash is cleaned up and is unable to cause further harm.

 

[SunnyinTX]

Thanks norose

I'm trying to follow the scanner talk going on at WS, and some that is being reported does not involve this case, but evidently there is some info about a tip, don't know much more.

nrcg, I was trying to listen to it too.............too darn confusing

[Shell]

Actually, there are a lot of men who are around town rather dirty. A lot are in agricultural jobs (San Pasqual Valley is an agricultural preserve), construction (which is going on in the communities due to fires in 07) or taking care of horses etc. Depending how dirty, it might not look so odd. Just my opinion. We do not know if the dirt to his knees is a fact or not.

[Edward]

DNA can be done very quickly - don't let 'em fool you with all this backlog non-sense. And when someone is missing and feared murdered and raped - they do expedite those samples to the front of the line. It's logical and makes sense, and in this case Gardner is not going on a crime spree while samples are processed. This is a good move - however it's after the fact and someone committing crimes on 13 year olds should not have been in any position to commit any future crimes.

The underwear being recovered was the item that allowed a sample along with the sexual predator data-base cross-reference. Gardner was in that data-base.

As for Megan's Law and Jessica's law and any other laws - predators do not respect laws. I won't out and out call it all a failure, but there's nothing that can really be done other than locking them up and throwing away the key. Most here already know that. The recidivism rate is over 80%. That's too high to try and figure out who may offend and who may not. The odds just aren't there for any consideration for these predators.

The two choices are - execution on first offense or life in prison (with no possibility of parole) if a crime has been committed on a young person under the age of 14. Hopefully the age of idiocy will be coming to an end after the next election cycle and we will finally have representatives that take crimes against our children seriously.

Any way - prayers for Chelsea and her family and all who knew and loved her. She sounded like a lovely and wonderful young lady that had so much to give.

It sure is good to read this and think.....Rob is back!

Gary condit is your best case to show violence towords women.. Gary was fried for a crime he did not commit.. He did fool around with Chandra.. but
 A illegal did rape and murdered Chandra Levy in a park in Washington D.C. later he bragged about it.
Illegals do far more crimes then our leaders want to tell us. I monitor the situation via news reports and web data bases.
Illegals are not U.S. citizens and should have NO RIGHTS.
What the United states likes to do is convict them of crimes and send them home.. then they re enter our nation and do it again. It is said we do not have the right to execute them.

On March 3, 2009 D.C. police and federal prosecutors announced they had arrested Ingmar A. Guandique, a 27-year-old illegal immigrant from El Salvador, as a suspect in the case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Levy

Our Gutlass politians will not address the problem as it should be. they are too busy kissing the worlds ass.

[Edward]

Apparently his vehicle or what was found inside of it was evidence when they found him.

Edward...where did you read this please???

sorry
I am not at liberty to say at this time.

[SunnyinTX]

Actually, there are a lot of men who are around town rather dirty. A lot are in agricultural jobs (San Pasqual Valley is an agricultural preserve), construction (which is going on in the communities due to fires in 07) or taking care of horses etc. Depending how dirty, it might not look so odd. Just my opinion. We do not know if the dirt to his knees is a fact or not.

thanks Shell....eeewwww  dirty men in restaurants!    Wish we could find out of he works.......and if so where.

[SunnyinTX]

Apparently his vehicle or what was found inside of it was evidence when they found him.

Edward...where did you read this please???

sorry
I am not at liberty to say at this time.

okey dokey

[Shell]

in the video gallery here: http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12048619
video from 3:47 pm

That 13 year old was victimized in the Townhouse in RB

[Live*Learn*Love]

On scanner they just said they found pants and socks by del dios.

[Shell]

Actually, there are a lot of men who are around town rather dirty. A lot are in agricultural jobs (San Pasqual Valley is an agricultural preserve), construction (which is going on in the communities due to fires in 07) or taking care of horses etc. Depending how dirty, it might not look so odd. Just my opinion. We do not know if the dirt to his knees is a fact or not.

thanks Shell....eeewwww  dirty men in restaurants!    Wish we could find out of he works.......and if so where.

Yes, and some of them smell of horse ****!

[Edward]

was she not in running shorts ?

[SunnyinTX]

in the video gallery here: http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12048619
video from 3:47 pm

That 13 year old was victimized in the Townhouse in RB

Thanks shell..............

[SunnyinTX]

On scanner they just said they found pants and socks by del dios.

thanks.......how close is that area to where the panties were found. 

[Edward]

steph is not back with us yet.. but I expect he will be.
http://stephww.wordpress.com/


SunnyinTX
 I do not want to say anything before the authorities do.

Besides my info is hearsay...until proves true.

[SunnyinTX]

Actually, there are a lot of men who are around town rather dirty. A lot are in agricultural jobs (San Pasqual Valley is an agricultural preserve), construction (which is going on in the communities due to fires in 07) or taking care of horses etc. Depending how dirty, it might not look so odd. Just my opinion. We do not know if the dirt to his knees is a fact or not.

thanks Shell....eeewwww  dirty men in restaurants!    Wish we could find out of he works.......and if so where.

Yes, and some of them smell of horse ****!

eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww so I guess a guy wet and muddy would not seem odd at all, in some restaurants anyway.