Natalee Case Discussion #762 6/30 - 7/6/08

[San]

San…...I am undecided…

There are no early statements from Paulis and Anita either, but there are from the Kalpoe mother and stepdad, as early as 6/2.

And why these questions if Val was not even in the country?

Satish 6/30 PV

On your question if I know the name of Joran’s second brother, I can only give you the following answers:
Joran has two (2) younger brothers but I don’t know their names.  I think that Joran’s brother is fifteen (15) years old.

On your question if the fifteen-year-old brother of Joran can drive a car, I cannot answer that question.

Because they had 10 days to make up their lies and coverup for Paulus.  The day of Satish's statment is the 30th.  He was released 4 days later.  They didn't really ask Satish a hard question.  Why didn't they ask Satish if they saw the brother when they went to pick up Joran.  A brother who was suppose to be up on the computer until 3:00 am that same evening.

[klaasend]

O/T  - either this "personal text" in our profile is new or I completely missed it before.   

[Dayhiker]

San…...I am undecided…

There are no early statements from Paulis and Anita either, but there are from the Kalpoe mother and stepdad, as early as 6/2.

And why these questions if Val was not even in the country?

Satish 6/30 PV

On your question if I know the name of Joran’s second brother, I can only give you the following answers:
Joran has two (2) younger brothers but I don’t know their names.  I think that Joran’s brother is fifteen (15) years old.

On your question if the fifteen-year-old brother of Joran can drive a car, I cannot answer that question.

Because they had 10 days to make up their lies and coverup for Paulus.  The day of Satish's statment is the 30th.  He was released 4 days later.  They didn't really ask Satish a hard question.  Why didn't they ask Satish if they saw the brother when they went to pick up Joran.  A brother who was suppose to be up on the computer until 3:00 am that same evening.

Why didn't they ask a lot of questions? There were hundreds of questions they didn't asked. Did you EVER see any statements that were take after the squad car tapes where they incriminate themselves time and again? No. They never followed up on those tapes because they didn't want the three to incriminate themselves.

[Tamikosmom]

San…...I am undecided…

There are no early statements from Paulis and Anita either, but there are from the Kalpoe mother and stepdad, as early as 6/2.

And why these questions if Val was not even in the country?

Satish 6/30 PV

On your question if I know the name of Joran’s second brother, I can only give you the following answers:
Joran has two (2) younger brothers but I don’t know their names.  I think that Joran’s brother is fifteen (15) years old.

On your question if the fifteen-year-old brother of Joran can drive a car, I cannot answer that question.

Mum

Great catch!!

Why would the interrogators be question Deepak in regards to whether Val drives if it was not related to the the Natalee Holloway case.

As I stated in my post there are just too many witnesses who could come forward at some period in time and refute Paulus and Joran's contention that the younger boys were in Aruba.  I cannot comprehend Paulus taking the risk.  There are classmates ... teachers ... bus driver ... headmaster ... parents of friends ...

Janet

[Dayhiker]

Carpe, cover your eyes, Destiny is nekid

Destiny, I'll be right over with a bottle of champagne. 

[Dayhiker]

Google Translation:

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I assume that everyone agrees on these facts: Joran Natalee has taken to the beach because she is deceased in his presence. That science is due to the undercoveractie with Patrick, there is what I am concerned nothing to desist things. You can discuss the way that went, but that is another story.


http://misdaadjournalist.web-log.nl/

Why would we assume that? Joran himself said that he didn't know whether she was alive or not?

[Destiny]

Carpe, cover your eyes, Destiny is nekid

Destiny, I'll be right over with a bottle of champagne. 

Great...I'll be the one doing a fan dance with banana leaves 

[klaasend]

Crossbow just posted the link to this pic on the front page of SM.  It's a nice photo of the new Senor Frogs but even better of the parking behind where CnC used to be. 



http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_frankie/2498800161/

[San]

San…...I am undecided…

There are no early statements from Paulis and Anita either, but there are from the Kalpoe mother and stepdad, as early as 6/2.

And why these questions if Val was not even in the country?

Satish 6/30 PV

On your question if I know the name of Joran’s second brother, I can only give you the following answers:
Joran has two (2) younger brothers but I don’t know their names.  I think that Joran’s brother is fifteen (15) years old.

On your question if the fifteen-year-old brother of Joran can drive a car, I cannot answer that question.

Mum

Great catch!!

Why would the interrogators be question Deepak in regards to whether Val drives if it was not related to the the Natalee Holloway case.

As I stated in my post there are just too many witnesses who could come forward at some period in time and refute Paulus and Joran's contention that the younger boys were in Aruba.  I cannot comprehend Paulus taking the risk.  There are classmates ... teachers ... bus driver ... headmaster ... parents of friends ...

Janet

To make the story look like he was home.  It betters Paulus' alibi.  Satish was probably clueless as to why he was being asked that question.  They asked the stupid one which was Satish.  Why didn't they ask Deepak.

Even if it is 20 years from now not one of those students will come forward and make a statement.  They might say it in a conversation with someone but there will never be a statement.  What good would it do.  They don't even believe Joran's own confession in Aruba and they aren't prosecuting him for what he said on tape.

[carpe noctem]

 

THIS RIGHT HERE, IS WHO IT'S ALL ABOUT!

DON'T EVER TAKE YOUR EYES OFF OF HER.





(unless you are Rob Smith from the AHATA - Rob, don't ever take your good eye off of her.)

[Blue Moon]

San, isnt that Valentine?  Why couldnt he have helped Joran that nite.

Because I believe he was in Holland with Anita.

San

My thoughts on the Valentijn and Sebastian topic ...

As far as I know ... there is no credible backup which disputes the contentions of Anita, Paulus and Joran that Valentijn and Sabastian were in Aruba on May 29/30, 2005.

I believe if Valentijn and Sabastian had been in the Netherlands with their mother it would absolve Valentijn of all suspicion.

It is Joran and Paulus statements and declarations that the young boys were in Aruba that has made Valentijn the topic of discussion in regards to possible participation to some extent in the events encompassing the morning when Natalee Holloway disappearance.

Think about it.  The implication of Valentign and Sebastian being in Holland with Anita is ... family member in Holland ... members of the Zeola family ... the bus driver ... the teaching staff ... the students ... have all been compensated ... intimidated or possess underlying motives to participate in the coverup that has denied Natalee Holloway justice?

Thoughts?

Janet

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We are going by what 2 of the biggest liars in the world planned.  I believe the reason Paulus and Joran involved Valentign and Sebastian was because it helped Paulus and Joran with an alibi.  We all know Paulus was at the casino next to Natalee.  Why lie and say he went home to pick up his son.

I have always believed Widget on this issue.  A bus driver, teacher do not convince me because they are all part of the coverup.  A statement from Valentign might and I say might lightly sway me a little.  There is no statement from Valentign but there is a statement from Sander G. who was the same age as Valentign.  I believe if they made Val give a statement there would be proof that he was in fact not in Aruba and he would be in trouble.  This would end his dreams of coming to the U.S. and going to college.  Suspects can lie Witnesses can't.

There are two issues that I refuse to change my mind on and this is one of them.

Did I tell you I'm stubborn 

One more thing.  It is said that the young son was upset when he found out what Joran did.  When did he find out.  Wasn't he there that night.  He found out when he got home with Anita.

You go girl.  The hi-lighted part above says it all. That boy was not in Aruba when this happened.

[carpe noctem]

You can discuss the way that went, but that is another story.



Yupppppp...

The other story, that's the one we want DICK HEAD!


U GO BYE BYE NOW... you've had your 15 minutes.

[San]

We are going by what 2 of the biggest liars in the world planned.  I believe the reason Paulus and Joran involved Valentign and Sebastian was because it helped Paulus and Joran with an alibi.  We all know Paulus was at the casino next to Natalee.  Why lie and say he went home to pick up his son.

I have always believed Widget on this issue.  A bus driver, teacher do not convince me because they are all part of the coverup.  A statement from Valentign might and I say might lightly sway me a little.  There is no statement from Valentign but there is a statement from Sander G. who was the same age as Valentign.  I believe if they made Val give a statement there would be proof that he was in fact not in Aruba and he would be in trouble.  This would end his dreams of coming to the U.S. and going to college.  Suspects can lie Witnesses can't.

There are two issues that I refuse to change my mind on and this is one of them.

Did I tell you I'm stubborn 

One more thing.  It is said that the young son was upset when he found out what Joran did.  When did he find out.  Wasn't he there that night.  He found out when he got home with Anita.

You go girl.  The hi-lighted part above says it all. That boy was not in Aruba when this happened.

They keep talking and they hang themselves.

[carpe noctem]

  This would end his dreams of coming to the U.S. and going to college.


If Valentijn sets foot on US soil, he is one dead Van der sloot. IMHO

[texasmom]

THIS RIGHT HERE, IS WHO IT'S ALL ABOUT!

DON'T EVER TAKE YOUR EYES OFF OF HER.





(unless you are Rob Smith from the AHATA - Rob, don't ever take your good eye off of her.)   

I love that picture of Natalee, thanks Carpe...and you are sooooo right on sir!  She's what it's all about!

[carpe noctem]

[San]

 

[wreck]

  This would end his dreams of coming to the U.S. and going to college.


If Valentijn sets foot on US soil, he is one dead Van der sloot. IMHO

Nah, no one would do that and completely lower themselves to that. Now, should he be confronted? You bet!!

[San]

Goodnight Everyone

[carpe noctem]

She's become our baby now too, huh texasmom?

I take what they did to her VERY PERSONALLY.


It was senseless. It was sick, and it will never drop until it has been accounted for.

There must be an accounting.