Natalee Case Discussion #762 6/30 - 7/6/08

[johan555]

my identity must be protected in case this comes out At September 27, 2007 5:30 PM,  Anonymous said…

THIS POST WAS MADE ON A BLOOGER PAGE. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. ! THE WHOLE GANG ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF SCUMBAGS.





Anonymous said...
Joran van der Sloot may you rot in Hell.
Hello I am a cousin from Deepak I seen it all

Natalee Holloway had been at the casino, and had been drinking with the Joran Van der Sloot he is as guilty as hell the creep slime vampire bat . The two brothers one called Satish and Deepak and Joran Van der sloot, and I thinks a fellow named Steve all creeps , whom had been arrested about this case in 2006, had a plan. They had done this type of thing to so many other other girls in Aruba before. They were to give Natalee a last drugged drink to go, and Joran was to put a drug in her drink, I think a 'Date Rape Drug". He did. Natalee was not really so drunk when she left with Joran Van der Sloot, she was drugged! by all means Joran had asked her to go with him to see the Light House she was pulled to the car . Natalee was not sure about going and had refused at first , but with the drink and the drug in it, she followed him to the awaiting car like a sheep waiting to be slaugthered. It was just her and Joran Van der sloot, not the rest of the guys in the car , as has been reported by other withnesses. Joran started to drive to the Light House but Natalee passed out cold almost as soon as she got in the car! Joran then turned around and drove to a beach close to her hotel! He parked and dragged her out of the car onto the beach where the other three guys came out of hiding. The two brothers and the Steve guy. They all took turns raping her and when the last brother was nearly finished, Natalee woke up but was very groggy, and the second brother finished, as she started to fight them off. They were very angry and surprised, as one of them who gave Joran the drug, was supposed to give enough to keep her out, nearly all night!They all held her down, as Joran put his hands over her nose and mouth and hit her aswell until she died! Remember, Natalee was very drugged but still managed to fight them off, as best she could. She was a good girl but at the wrong place at the wrong time . She had been tricked and drugged. Other girls had been victims, as well waking up on beaches in the morning light, knowing something terrible had happened to them, but not actually remembering what it was.

The boys had not expected Natalee to wake up, so this was a surprise to them all! One of them quickly called someone the father of Joran van der Sloot and soon another car drove up to the parking spot on the beach. This person brought a black, zippered, coroner's, body bag. They then all helped put her inside. I couldn't see the face of the man who came with the bag, but thought it strange that someone could come up with a body bag so quickly! Next they put Natalee in the back seat of the car who's owner brought the body bag. Natalee was inside the bag and it was dark, so they thought no one would be able to see into the back seat, and I assumed that they did not have to drive far to hide the body.

But fortunate there were other withnesses as well . The first gardener that worked for the Van der Sloot family was said to have been deported he seen it aswell but was sent home to where he came from with some money to keep his mouth closed. He was forced and taken by a small plane, to an island not more than 5 or 10 minutes away, from Aruba, to a 'Compound" in the jungle. The 'People running drug things in Aruba, did not want him to talk since he saw something that night the father of joran van der sloot carrying a big black bag and surely something weird , as he had already spoke to someone, a reporter, I think, and they would have killed him aswell, but it would have looked to suspicious, so they just said he was "deported". The first gardener was from a group of poor people , and came to Aruba to work for the Van der Sloots, in order to earn money for their poor family.So some main "withnesses " gone the drugbarons at the aruba drug kartell, so authorities didn't make any attempt to find him, as they thought he would never tell and he couldn't be found anyway. If those same people thought he had talked about what he saw, they would not hesitate to kill the entire poor family, so that no one would be left to talk! It would be mass genocide! He, however, did talk what he really saw that night to some guards that night , and some other people know about what actually happened. I have to say that at least two of the young men that raped Natalee, and killed her, went straight home after the beach to set up alibi's the bastards.
The First Gardener got up around 4 AM to 4:30 AM, or when ever his usual morning work begins, and that is when he saw the guys with the body bag. He knew something was terribly wrong but he quickly turned around and went back to where he slept until no one else was around. When this gardener, told the wrong person that he saw the Van der Sloot boy at a certain time, I think his first statement was correct. This was his only mistake, and they had to get rid of him. They had no idea he saw them with the black body bag. I cannot tell you where she is buried, as if one of them finds out I have repeated this much, they will try and move it. I just know some very powerful people way up in the island gourvernement with some powerfull influence on that Island helped those guys hide the body and coverup all the tracks.
Poor me I am afraid to talk

The Dutch authorities sent those guys over to Aruba, as they had already been in trouble and they were an embarrassment to the Dutch Authorities. Joran Van der Sloot and the two brothers, would go to school and leave whenever they felt like it rich new kids and you know the rest aswell and the teachers were too afraid to call them on it!
Those three got away with first degree 'Murder' all the time. They finally got into such trouble that they had to be sent away. Joran was back in Aruba, at it again, along with his friends. but fled to Holland to the city Arnhem and sometimes city Haarlem in Holland
You know that the Island survives on it's drug and tourist industry. Many drugs are sent from Aruba. This is why the authorities are so afraid of this story, as they all get kick-backs from the drug money, I know there was a big up coverup meeting there were also six people who had a meeting this year in an Aruba Courtroom.
One included the current Judge. They were talking about the case, and especially about Satish Deepak. They said he was a loose cannon and unstable, and were worried that he might talk! It seems everyone, all adult, in that courtroom, knew what happened to Natalee including the Senior Van der Sloot, who was there in the room with the Judge and four others. They were not in session, as the Judge had his robe open and was standing around with the rest of these people.

Poor Natalee Holloway case is a real problem for Aruba may God have her soul, as she is not the only one who has gone missing because of the same type of action, or drugs. So the Drug kartell warned to sent Joran van der Sloot to Holland They cannot kill the entire Van der Sloot Family and the others that have been arrested, which would probably solve Aruba's problem, as far as the drug business goes.
I have seen that Joran Van der Sloot boy was wearing a blue and white stripped shirt the night Natalee was murdered, and Satish wore a blue T-shirt.


I have to say the gardener said Natalee, is buried under two false floors under the old gray garden shed, on the Van der Sloot property! But because if they catch wind me talking, the body will surely be moved! The first floor of the gardeners shed had some pallets for a floor, and under this floor is another false floor that has dirt over it, so it looks like the ground, but if you look closely, you will see two small handles near the edges of the floor that can be taken up. Even the present gardener doesn't know it's there. In this shed is a lawn mower, and a rake, a bucket and some garden tools. There is also a terrible odor that is partially from the fish cut up to fertilize the gardens. This is what throws them off the scent, so to speak. Natalee is not alone under there. There is another body in there with her,

Well may be you can help
my identity must be protected in case this comes out .
I hope you are very careful with this information and I leave it with you, because you seem to be the only one who can help

I am a cousin from Deepak I seen it all

[WhiskeyGirl]

Just wanted to say goodbye-I really do think this will be my last post-unless someone has a specific question I could help you with.
I have been doing a lot of digging the last few days,and I have come up with some info I am afraid I can't share, but I find very disturbing.
I had a long chat with Anita yesterday, she told me some things that I was checking on today, and I think if this thread goes where I think it will, all of you will be very surprised.
Just remember the phrase "innocent until proven guilty" and don't get reading to lynch anybody yet. Anything I might post right now would be things most of you don't want to hear, and I think I can accomplish more doing legwork, rather than sitting in front of the computer. I am all caught up in this thing now, and I have to follow it to where ever it goes. There are some lines of investigation the police haven't followed, because they were so determined to make everybody happy by serving the ones that everyone wants to be guilty.
Do any of you remember the story I told you about when I was in college and had a similar experience to Natalee? Well, lets just say she wasn't as lucky as I was when I walked that long, dark, lonely road back to my friends house.
Anyway, after I post this, if any of you had a question to ask, I will answer it, but then I'm gonna be gone.
Don't ask me why people open up to me like they do, it has always been that way all my life, must be a gift, I guess, that why I make a good reporter, but this has been a very enlightening couple of days.
You all take care and be well

Posted by: scubajap | Friday, August 19, 2005 at 10:04 PM

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/natalee_hollowa_45.html

Today, I would say...

Why would Anita be giving scuba stuff to check into?  Were Anita and Scuba the investigators?

How would Anita know "things"? 

Shouldn't the investigation be secret?

[Observer]

just an interesting insight from the sidelines:

yesterday i was having a discussion with a man who was an ex-navy seal, a hawaiian police officer, and head of security of a major casino chain, and now runs security for the leading yacht manufacturer in America...his experience in both crime and casino security is extensive...while discussing entirely seperate issues, i asked him if he had heard of natalee holloway ("of course," was his reply, "i've followed it closely up until the last year.") and what was his opinion.

his view:

a. she was raped by all three boys and murdered by the judge's son; he places no weight or truth in the overdose theory, or anything else joran or the kalpoes have publically stated

b. he refuses to believe the case wasn't solved and her body recovered within the first two days

c. whomever is at the blackjack table, the casino could have identified that person within hours, faster--minutes-- if a player's card had been offered for comp time...he was emphatic about this, and is positive it is paulus, and is also positive that there is corruption and collusion from top to bottom within the law enforcement and judicial systems on aruba

his exact quote:  "there is some really wrong down there, something is very, very wrong...those boys should have been arrested and the girl's body recovered within two days...its just sad, just impossible...to have happened...without something being very, very wrong down there.  And i mean the police.  all of them."

i have to note that he later emphasized that he would be very surprised if she was taken out to sea because that is not the case in other murders or crimes on the island that result in bodies of deceased people; he thinks that story birthed out of news reports claiming that was a strong way to dispose of a body--even in hawaii no one, professionals or amateur killers, use the sea, unless the person is killed while out at sea; they use cane fields or burial in isolated places, and he thinks that is the most successful element of the misinformation campaign...he believes she was buried and then reburied, is certain paulus was involved in that disposal...he thinks the police literally covered up the evidence while searching, and buried the body deeper with their own keystone cops efforts, which as a professional, he believes also has to have been done deliberately--not because she or anyone was involved in drugs or trafficking, as he has heard suggested--because of tourism, stating that when he worked for casinos, also totally reliant on the tourism trade, they reacted the same, even though as he emphasized, they would never muddle a murder case, and really didn't have any in his own 20 year experience, but rapes, robberies, sexual assault, and armed or physical battery, those get kept off the crime sheet by deliberate muddling as a matter of rote to keep the tourists thinking absolute safety and protection, and to maintain the customer flow
"its just such an easy case...something is very, very wrong down there."

[Observer]

Just wanted to say goodbye-I really do think this will be my last post-unless

Why would Anita be giving scuba stuff to check into?  Were Anita and Scuba the investigators?

How would Anita know "things"? 

Shouldn't the investigation be secret?

Because Anita has known the truth for three years now..She has sought help from her pro VDS/Aruba supporters online,investigating the victims,lying about them and creating smoke screens and misinformation everywhere they can. Anita has been very hands on with the misinformation campaign online while her husband/suspect works internally damaging the Investigation. Joran sits back and probably giggles himself to sleep after reading the dirty deeds done online and on TV.
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Refugees on June 20, 2006:

medleyrelay wrote:
I have been asked to start a thread about the Bearmans --I am doing this for Anita - so any of you VDS supporters try to help me with this please!!

Jodi Bearman was a chaperone. She has the travel agency and booked/planned the whole trip. She went with them as chaperone and flew back with the FAB 7 to Aruba asa she arrived back in the USA.

She had everything to gain by keeping Joran in the picture because she could have been blamed or sued by the family.

Many of the first rumors came out of her mouth.
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medleyrelay wrote:
Honey I think you have raised enough objections - now why dont you find another thread - obviously you are having a problem dealing with this one - and I do find it very curious how some of you get your undies in a twat over some people when they ask for information about MB people - that to me is quite fascinating -- but of course it is ok for the HMI crew to spend hours, months and now a year spewing tons of lies about Joran and his family - saying really really hateful things -- but a few questions are asked here about one of the MB families and some of you loose your mind.

I am sure that Joe has much knowledge on all of this -- I am not sure at all if he knows every minute detail that some of you experts do - that have made it their business to study all things MB -so give my dear friend a break here - if she wants to read what some of you NICE KIND WONDERFUL SUPPORTIVE people have written and perhaps learn something let her!

My goodnes do you have any idea how it is to have your beloved son under suspicion for something he has not done -- think about it --you that want to troll and derail this thread - please a littlle kindness would be nice! Just a small amount of kindness!!

[WhiskeyGirl]

I sometimes look back at some old posts and wonder what were they thinking?  Were they planting information?    Preparing the public for what was to come? 

Look at the date and comments of a poster named "sneakypete" (not stinkypete) from June 11, 2005.  I don't see these posts referenced often.  What case related was happening June 9-11?

Crime & Corruption
See other Crime & Corruption Articles

Title: Major Break in Natalee Holloway Case
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=98168

If you read the comments, this "sneakypete" seems to have all the answers for posters to this article.  imho

'no punishment'  'dutch boy'  'blame others'  'girls gone wild'

[MumInOhio]

Klaas, San or *******......Could you please fix my boo boo in the Prayer Thread? I meant Gloria, but my thoughts are with April as well. TIA

[klaasend]

Klaas, San or *******......Could you please fix my boo boo in the Prayer Thread? I meant Gloria, but my thoughts are with April as well. TIA

Added Gloria right before April 

[MumInOhio]

Klaas, San or *******......Could you please fix my boo boo in the Prayer Thread? I meant Gloria, but my thoughts are with April as well. TIA

Added Gloria right before April 

Thank You...Klaas...


WhiskeyGirl … here are a couple of posts from the Shango thread, posted recently…

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.560


Quote SS

I have been working on an assumption that the car chase and the decapitated body were diversions set up by Renfro to coverup things that were occuring simultaneously.  On July 11th, someone unidentified and in his 20s was arrested at his home in Oranjestadt.  On July 11th Tiel from Diario was involved in the car chase.  I am looking at this as Tiel being setup to keep the media away from the arrest.

Quote Mum…Thanks Finngirl
JUNE 10TH. AND 11TH.

On 7-12 PAUL REYNOLDS told MSNBC, “I know that my sister had a meeting with the FBI June 10, Friday. And from that meeting, she became convinced that Natalee was no longer alive. She called her mother and told her that. And our family was—was—began the grieving process. You know, we were told the report would come out the next day. Later that night, we saw the reports that confessions had been made, that something bad had happened. Shortly thereafter, it was retracted. The next morning, there was a report that said Natalee was confirmed dead. And these reports came from the deputy commissioner. They came from the spokesperson from the Ministry of Justice. And then, all of a sudden, these statements and these confessions just disappeared.” “I am not aware of any follow-up information. You know, this seemed to disappear from sight, these confessions did. At the time, we thought that because the investigation is kept secret, we thought it was ongoing, and maybe they just didn't want to release it officially at that time. But, as we see that the appeals, the hearings are showing there's no evidence, but yet we have these confessions, it doesn't make any sense. It's as if they are being hidden or taken away.”

And possibly the Aruba-bay videos…….

[MumInOhio]

 


Whiskey Girl…a couple more…

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.500


Quote from: MumInOhio on June 27, 2008, 02:49:09 PM

the link is no longer available.

www.nbc4i.com/news/4593143/detail.html

Another Arrest Made In Case Of Missing Ala. Teen
POSTED: 9:38 am EDT June 10, 2005
UPDATED: 9:34 am EDT June 11, 2005

ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Police in Aruba investigating the disappearance of an Alabama teenager made another arrest early Saturday. It comes just hours after police said one of three men recently arrested admitted "something bad had happened" to Natalee Holloway.

Police aren't commenting on the latest arrest, which was the sixth since Holloway went missing May 30.

Late Friday, one of three young men who took Holloway to the beach during her class trip to Aruba said "something bad happened" to her, police said.

The three men arrested by Aruban police early Thursday morning had been designated "persons of interest" in the case and were detained soon after Natalee Holloway's disappearance. Police officials questioned the trio, and then released them back to their families.

And more…..

This one from the AP about the same arrest:
By MICHAEL NORTON, Associated Press Writer

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Police investigating the disappearance of an Alabama honors student in Aruba arrested a man at dawn Saturday, hours after one of three young men already in custody admitted "something bad happened" to the woman after they took her to the beach.

It was unclear if the 6 a.m. arrest was related to the admission. The same team of officers who arrested five others in the case during the past week went to a home just outside Oranjestad, the capital, and came out with a handcuffed man who looked to be in his 20s.

And then I posted:
OK....I just read that the arrest I posted above was NOT related to Natalee!

Next I posted:
Same arrest....now it didn't happen!

by Norman 'Gus' Thomas
Caribbean Net News Senior Regional Correspondent
E-mail: rc@caribbeannetnews.com
Saturday, June 11, 2005ORANJESTAD, Aruba:

Law enforcement officials in Aruba are calling recent reports coming out of the USA in relation to the disappearance of an Alabama teenager as "untrue and misleading." 18-year-old Natalee Holloway vanished May 29 after leaving an Oranjestad nightclub.

According to US reports, police in Aruba arrested a man on Saturday morning, after one of a trio that was previously held reportedly told police "something bad happened to her".

CNN's 2:00 pm report on Saturday stated that a senior police officer had told them that one of the three men arrested had confessed to killing Halloway.

Aruba police told Caribbean Net News Saturday that they have been engaged in an unsuccessful island-wide search for Holloway, who had come to the island with 124 other students from the USA to celebrate their graduation from Mountain Brook High School.

Caribbean Net News contacted CNN Headline News in Atlanta who said that they have reporters on the ground in Aruba and were adamant that they are sticking by their story.

However, officials in Aruba maintain that no confession was made and there has been no other arrest apart from the five made earlier.

According to one US report, police this morning visited a home on the outskirts of the capital city of Oranjestad and were later seen coming from the house with a young man wearing handcuffs, but the Aruba police have also denied this.

However, police did confirm to Caribbean Net News that, of the arrested trio, two are brothers and hail from Suriname while the other is a 17-year-old Dutchman who is the son of a top member of Aruba's legal circle.

« Reply #512 on: June 28, 2008, 10:53:23 AM » SS

The drama of the car chase was no doubt orchestrated to divert the media attention away from the 5th suspect who was brought in for questioning.  Who was protecting the 5th suspect?

[Observer]

Klaasend and Destiny...MBOX 

[ldstlou]

my identity must be protected in case this comes out At September 27, 2007 5:30 PM,  Anonymous said…

THIS POST WAS MADE ON A BLOOGER PAGE. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. ! THE WHOLE GANG ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF SCUMBAGS.





Anonymous said...
Joran van der Sloot may you rot in Hell.
Hello I am a cousin from Deepak I seen it all

Natalee Holloway had been at the casino, and had been drinking with the Joran Van der Sloot he is as guilty as hell the creep slime vampire bat . The two brothers one called Satish and Deepak and Joran Van der sloot, and I thinks a fellow named Steve all creeps , whom had been arrested about this case in 2006, had a plan. They had done this type of thing to so many other other girls in Aruba before. They were to give Natalee a last drugged drink to go, and Joran was to put a drug in her drink, I think a 'Date Rape Drug". He did. Natalee was not really so drunk when she left with Joran Van der Sloot, she was drugged! by all means Joran had asked her to go with him to see the Light House she was pulled to the car . Natalee was not sure about going and had refused at first , but with the drink and the drug in it, she followed him to the awaiting car like a sheep waiting to be slaugthered. It was just her and Joran Van der sloot, not the rest of the guys in the car , as has been reported by other witnesses. Joran started to drive to the Light House but Natalee passed out cold almost as soon as she got in the car! Joran then turned around and drove to a beach close to her hotel! He parked and dragged her out of the car onto the beach where the other three guys came out of hiding. The two brothers and the Steve guy. They all took turns raping her and when the last brother was nearly finished, Natalee woke up but was very groggy, and the second brother finished, as she started to fight them off. They were very angry and surprised, as one of them who gave Joran the drug, was supposed to give enough to keep her out, nearly all night!They all held her down, as Joran put his hands over her nose and mouth and hit her aswell until she died! Remember, Natalee was very drugged but still managed to fight them off, as best she could. She was a good girl but at the wrong place at the wrong time . She had been tricked and drugged. Other girls had been victims, as well waking up on beaches in the morning light, knowing something terrible had happened to them, but not actually remembering what it was.

The boys had not expected Natalee to wake up, so this was a surprise to them all! One of them quickly called someone the father of Joran van der Sloot and soon another car drove up to the parking spot on the beach. This person brought a black, zippered, coroner's, body bag. They then all helped put her inside. I couldn't see the face of the man who came with the bag, but thought it strange that someone could come up with a body bag so quickly! Next they put Natalee in the back seat of the car who's owner brought the body bag. Natalee was inside the bag and it was dark, so they thought no one would be able to see into the back seat, and I assumed that they did not have to drive far to hide the body.

But fortunate there were other witnesses as well . The first gardener that worked for the Van der Sloot family was said to have been deported he seen it aswell but was sent home to where he came from with some money to keep his mouth closed. He was forced and taken by a small plane, to an island not more than 5 or 10 minutes away, from Aruba, to a 'Compound" in the jungle. The 'People running drug things in Aruba, did not want him to talk since he saw something that night the father of joran van der sloot carrying a big black bag and surely something weird , as he had already spoke to someone, a reporter, I think, and they would have killed him aswell, but it would have looked to suspicious, so they just said he was "deported". The first gardener was from a group of poor people , and came to Aruba to work for the Van der Sloots, in order to earn money for their poor family.So some main "witnesses " gone the drugbarons at the aruba drug kartell, so authorities didn't make any attempt to find him, as they thought he would never tell and he couldn't be found anyway. If those same people thought he had talked about what he saw, they would not hesitate to kill the entire poor family, so that no one would be left to talk! It would be mass genocide! He, however, did talk what he really saw that night to some guards that night , and some other people know about what actually happened. I have to say that at least two of the young men that raped Natalee, and killed her, went straight home after the beach to set up alibi's the bastards.
The First Gardener got up around 4 AM to 4:30 AM, or when ever his usual morning work begins, and that is when he saw the guys with the body bag. He knew something was terribly wrong but he quickly turned around and went back to where he slept until no one else was around. When this gardener, told the wrong person that he saw the Van der Sloot boy at a certain time, I think his first statement was correct. This was his only mistake, and they had to get rid of him. They had no idea he saw them with the black body bag. I cannot tell you where she is buried, as if one of them finds out I have repeated this much, they will try and move it. I just know some very powerful people way up in the island government with some powerfull influence on that Island helped those guys hide the body and cover up all the tracks.
Poor me I am afraid to talk

The Dutch authorities sent those guys over to Aruba, as they had already been in trouble and they were an embarrassment to the Dutch Authorities. Joran Van der Sloot and the two brothers, would go to school and leave whenever they felt like it rich new kids and you know the rest aswell and the teachers were too afraid to call them on it!
Those three got away with first degree 'Murder' all the time. They finally got into such trouble that they had to be sent away. Joran was back in Aruba, at it again, along with his friends. but fled to Holland to the city Arnhem and sometimes city Haarlem in Holland
You know that the Island survives on it's drug and tourist industry. Many drugs are sent from Aruba. This is why the authorities are so afraid of this story, as they all get kick-backs from the drug money, I know there was a big up cover up meeting there were also six people who had a meeting this year in an Aruba Courtroom.
One included the current Judge. They were talking about the case, and especially about Satish Deepak. They said he was a loose cannon and unstable, and were worried that he might talk! It seems everyone, all adult, in that courtroom, knew what happened to Natalee including the Senior Van der Sloot, who was there in the room with the Judge and four others. They were not in session, as the Judge had his robe open and was standing around with the rest of these people.

Poor Natalee Holloway case is a real problem for Aruba may God have her soul, as she is not the only one who has gone missing because of the same type of action, or drugs. So the Drug kartell warned to sent Joran van der Sloot to Holland They cannot kill the entire Van der Sloot Family and the others that have been arrested, which would probably solve Aruba's problem, as far as the drug business goes.
I have seen that Joran Van der Sloot boy was wearing a blue and white stripped shirt the night Natalee was murdered, and Satish wore a blue T-shirt.


I have to say the gardener said Natalee, is buried under two false floors under the old gray garden shed, on the Van der Sloot property! But because if they catch wind me talking, the body will surely be moved! The first floor of the gardeners shed had some pallets for a floor, and under this floor is another false floor that has dirt over it, so it looks like the ground, but if you look closely, you will see two small handles near the edges of the floor that can be taken up. Even the present gardener doesn't know it's there. In this shed is a lawn mower, and a rake, a bucket and some garden tools. There is also a terrible odor that is partially from the fish cut up to fertilize the gardens. This is what throws them off the scent, so to speak. Natalee is not alone under there. There is another body in there with her,

Well may be you can help
my identity must be protected in case this comes out .
I hope you are very careful with this information and I leave it with you, because you seem to be the only one who can help

I am a cousin from Deepak I seen it all

Hey Johan!! Good lawd the fireworks are going off big time and my dog is going nuts!!! lol


Back on topic, this doesn't sound like what happened to Natalee...reads more to me like another victim of joran and the posse telling what happened to her and trying to fit it in to Natalee's disappearance.
Definitely though the emotion makes me believe she was a victim or very close to a victim or joran's.

[Observer]

A little birdy sent me this pic of Koen in Georgia..Apparently he is feeling festive for the Holiday 

[texasmom]

A little birdy sent me this pic of Koen in Georgia..Apparently he is feeling festive for the Holiday 

Yuck!  He is disgusting! 

Looks like they might have nicked him a little too! Has a little red going on around that star. 

[carpe noctem]

A little birdy sent me this pic of Koen in Georgia..Apparently he is feeling festive for the Holiday 

Yuck!  He is disgusting! 

Looks like they might have nicked him a little too! Has a little red going on around that star. 

Hey Koen,


Vanilla Ice just called from the year 1991. He wants his royalty check
mailed out TODAY. He said you stole his haircut!

 

[carpe noctem]

[Observer]

Well Carpe..Even Vanilla Ice rode in style..But no matter what Koen drives,all the Kalpoes still love him..Here's his pimp mobile,I am sure he won't be braggin about it when visiting Aruba this month though

[AZSunny]

A little birdy sent me this pic of Koen in Georgia..Apparently he is feeling festive for the Holiday 

My gosh, is that really Koen?  He has aged and his hair has darkened if it is.  He is still fat though

[Observer]

Better not get involved in any Bangbus activities this time around in Aruba Koen..Your little Sister and Daddy in Georgia wont be too happy..

[Observer]

[Destiny]

WOW...just now checked Diario online...they start postings new stories a little after midnight...almost every story is about Hendrick Croes....

 ‘PREGUNTANAN MANDA DI OFICINA DI HENDRICK CROES, PA INTEROGACION DI AGENTE MADURO’
Friday, 04 July 2008

ORANJESTAD(AAN): Durante tratamento di e caso contra Edgar Maduro, un agente policial acusa di a entrega un denuncia falso contra Hendrick Croes, fiscal a bisa cu e ta tuma hopi na malo cu Maduro lo a entrega un denuncia falso.

El a bisa cu mirando cu nan tin cu traha hunto, asina e lo no por confia e agente policial aki. Segun e fiscal, despues cu el a sinti cu algun cos no tabata cuadra den e declaracionnan di Maduro, el a invita Maduro pa puntre algun cos y Maduro a manda un carta pe, den cual Maduro a bisa cu e ta hasi uso di su derecho di no papia, mirando tambe cu e preguntanan di O.M ta bin directamente for di oficina di Croes mes.

Segun fiscal e ta haya esaki un ofensa contra Ministerio Publico cu ta stroba e relacion di confianza cu e tabata tin cu agente Maduro, den e trabao cu nan mester hasi hunto.

Maduro a splica cu e motibo cu el a manda e carta pa Fiscal tabata cu dos agente policial a bise cu e preguntanan cu O.M tabata bay puntre, a wordo manda directamente cu fax di parti di oficina di Hendrick Croes y su abogado Ruiz pa fiscal Mos, kende lo a mande pa e agentenan policial cu mester a interoga Maduro.

Fiscal a nenga cu esaki tabata e caso, pero Maduro mes na dado momento lo a wak e fax aki y esey a pone rabia, mescos cu un articulo cu a sali den corant di MEP, unda cu Croes a papia varios disparate den direccion di Maduro, papiando hopi malo di dje como persona.