Lively Case Discussion #638 6/10 - 6/13/2007

[Port Valerie]

That's one story i hadn't heard!   I don't think anyone under 75 would run away to Aruba. Boring, boring, boring.

[klaasend]

Will Tim be flying down to Aruba to board the boat with the heavy duty equipment or will he board the boat wherever it is leaving from to get to Aruba?  

Just thinking about any finds and how they'd get back into the states from international waters or otherwise.  San, not really trying to rain on your parade...honest...

Two ships

240 feet
360 feet

I don't believe Tim will be flying anywhere, nor will he need to stay in Aruba.  The ships would be big enough don't you think?

[Angiex911dsptchr]

 I sure hope so BT.... But IMO I feel it wont happen until TEs goes to Aruba.. its either gonna be some big news.. or a total let down.
 ANd.. lets say.. IF.. a BIG if.. Natalee'e remains are found in the water.. in a container of sorts. then what? Will there be any forensic evidence as to what really happened?   Would anyone be able to tell exactly what kind of crime was commited against her?   Dumb questions I have I suppose.

That's my concern, too. Even if TES finds a body in a container ... the three stooges would not have a very hard time distancing themselves from it, especially after two years. IMO.

Personally, i don't think anybody put her in a container and took her out. That would require too many accomplices. i think it happened at the VDS home and the VDS family kept it in the family. No accomplices, not even Deepak.

 I  honestly dont know what to think anymore? From what I have heard. The water.. and Dave Holloway has spoken to this person as well.. and Dave feels she is in the water. I go back and forth I guess.. I do feel she was at the VDS dump... and IMO  .. she passed in the hands of the sweaty prick Paulus.  I do feel Kalpoes and Jvds and Anita the hog are are guilty as well..and others..  But IMO JVDS is covering for his sweaty Papa

[2NJSons_Mom]

Will Tim be flying down to Aruba to board the boat with the heavy duty equipment or will he board the boat wherever it is leaving from to get to Aruba?  

Just thinking about any finds and how they'd get back into the states from international waters or otherwise.  San, not really trying to rain on your parade...honest...

Two ships

240 feet
360 feet

I don't believe Tim will be flying anywhere, nor will he need to stay in Aruba.  The ships would be big enough don't you think?

I forgot there were two ships, but didn't know where they were coming from.  Size wasn't what I was thinking of, just how he would be traveling, that's all and how anything found could be kept quiet & delivered.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

<<snip>>
 Godo evening to yah "D".. dis you bake us all some cupcakes tonight

   I  though someone else was bringing them

I might have some laying around though  

  LOL That  works!  

[Port Valerie]

I don't know what to think any more, either. That's why i have -- temporarily, anyway -- returned to the simplest solution. Something bad happened and it happened at the house and the family took care of it. What happens in the house, stays in the house.

I think Deepak would have talked by now if he knew anything. I think Deepak told one lie -- he dropped them off somewhere. Maybe two lies -- he dropped them off at point a and point b. But that's it for him. If he really knew anything more, and there really was a complicated conspiracy, Deepak would be very successful by now and not still living with Mama.

[Port Valerie]

Bye for now.    i'm discouraged.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Bye for now.    i'm discouraged.

Be back soon too.. gotta run to the store real quick..
 

[klaasend]

Will Tim be flying down to Aruba to board the boat with the heavy duty equipment or will he board the boat wherever it is leaving from to get to Aruba?  

Just thinking about any finds and how they'd get back into the states from international waters or otherwise.  San, not really trying to rain on your parade...honest...

Two ships

240 feet
360 feet

I don't believe Tim will be flying anywhere, nor will he need to stay in Aruba.  The ships would be big enough don't you think?

I forgot there were two ships, but didn't know where they were coming from.  Size wasn't what I was thinking of, just how he would be traveling, that's all and how anything found could be kept quiet & delivered.

I'm not sure on the details.  Maybe Red can give us more information soon and clarify some of this.

[Easywriter]

I’m thinking the Kalpoes did leave Joran and Natalee somewhere along the beach.  They knew something was wrong, but not how bad which explains Satish’s question about how she was.  Joran did what he did and hid her body near the fisherman’s huts, which explains why he took the cops to the location and tried to pin it on Deepak.

Paulus went into action quickly, unbeknownst to Joran, and had her taken out to deep water.  Paulus was smart enough to realize that something might wash ashore, if she was not contained and weighted down in some manner.  He knew Aruba did not have the capability to make a serious deep water search and it probably never occurred to him that this one teenager from Alabama would garner the attention and resources that she has.

Cremation and burial in a cemetery just sounds more difficult to me and would definitely involve others that might not be trustworthy.

That’s just what I am thinking right now……

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Klaas
  back from the store.. dunno if I broke your record.. lol

But wasn't there suppose to be a FP post about Tes  a few days ago?  

[Angiex911dsptchr]

I’m thinking the Kalpoes did leave Joran and Natalee somewhere along the beach.  They knew something was wrong, but not how bad which explains Satish’s question about how she was.  Joran did what he did and hid her body near the fisherman’s huts, which explains why he took the cops to the location and tried to pin it on Deepak.

Paulus went into action quickly, unbeknownst to Joran, and had her taken out to deep water.  Paulus was smart enough to realize that something might wash ashore, if she was not contained and weighted down in some manner.  He knew Aruba did not have the capability to make a serious deep water search and it probably never occurred to him that this one teenager from Alabama would garner the attention and resources that she has.

Cremation and burial in a cemetery just sounds more difficult to me and would definitely involve others that might not be trustworthy.

That’s just what I am thinking right now……

  Easy.. I know you are good with keeping us up to date with Jossy info.. but have you heard ANYTHING at all lately?

[igsigs]

they could have SHUT this down weeks ago

but they have not

And why is that? Because this is not a    Cold Case

The KLPD reviewed the case for 6 months. Plenty of time to say *we tried*, present an inconclusive finding and shut it down. Instead they went to the judiciary, asked for and recieved an extension.

IMO, the extension is all about interviews.

[robots]

they could have SHUT this down weeks ago

but they have not

And why is that? Because this is not a    Cold Case

The KLPD reviewed the case for 6 months. Plenty of time to say *we tried*, present an inconclusive finding and shut it down. Instead they went to the judiciary, asked for and recieved an extension.

IMO, the extension is all about interviews.

i feel like a HOT FUDGE SUNDAE !!!!


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...delicious  

[robots]

they could have SHUT this down weeks ago

but they have not

And why is that? Because this is not a    Cold Case

The KLPD reviewed the case for 6 months. Plenty of time to say *we tried*, present an inconclusive finding and shut it down. Instead they went to the judiciary, asked for and recieved an extension.

IMO, the extension is all about interviews.

 

[igsigs]

 

[Angiex911dsptchr]

they could have SHUT this down weeks ago

but they have not

And why is that? Because this is not a    Cold Case

The KLPD reviewed the case for 6 months. Plenty of time to say *we tried*, present an inconclusive finding and shut it down. Instead they went to the judiciary, asked for and recieved an extension.

IMO, the extension is all about interviews.

i feel like a HOT FUDGE SUNDAE !!!!


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...delicious  

  But..but.. a sundae with whipped cream on top?

[Sue]

Will Tim be flying down to Aruba to board the boat with the heavy duty equipment or will he board the boat wherever it is leaving from to get to Aruba?  

Just thinking about any finds and how they'd get back into the states from international waters or otherwise.  San, not really trying to rain on your parade...honest...

Two ships

240 feet
360 feet

I don't believe Tim will be flying anywhere, nor will he need to stay in Aruba.  The ships would be big enough don't you think?

Klaas, Approx.. How far from shore is international waters If you know
And I would think if they found anything they would call the FBI

[Easywriter]

I’m thinking the Kalpoes did leave Joran and Natalee somewhere along the beach.  They knew something was wrong, but not how bad which explains Satish’s question about how she was.  Joran did what he did and hid her body near the fisherman’s huts, which explains why he took the cops to the location and tried to pin it on Deepak.

Paulus went into action quickly, unbeknownst to Joran, and had her taken out to deep water.  Paulus was smart enough to realize that something might wash ashore, if she was not contained and weighted down in some manner.  He knew Aruba did not have the capability to make a serious deep water search and it probably never occurred to him that this one teenager from Alabama would garner the attention and resources that she has.

Cremation and burial in a cemetery just sounds more difficult to me and would definitely involve others that might not be trustworthy.

That’s just what I am thinking right now……

  Easy.. I know you are good with keeping us up to date with Jossy info.. but have you heard ANYTHING at all lately?

Just that it is hotter than hell there and they have been breaking records of 100 plus this week.  Do you think the heat is bothering the rat man?

[bleachedblack]

WOW that's hot even for Aruba. The water must be as warm as pee.