Haleigh Cummings #5 3/08/09 - 3/11/09

[no rose colored glasses]

Patrick Sessions who is visiting the families of Haleigh said on Jane Velez-Mitcchell that the ring that Misty is wearing is a ring that belong to I believe (Misty's mother).

Thanks for that info. 

[no rose colored glasses]

post by Lola:  Thank you for finding the articles. I'm in Illinois and it was n the news here. I could not believe how much each sold for!


I live in Illinois as well!
Mobile homes are lovely...my mother lives in a lovely double wide in a retirement community...she has more room in hers than a lot of people do...Also, I think that the one that Haleigh lived in looked to be very nice to me..especially for a young family....when I was their age, I would have loved to have lived in that nice of a home!  just my 2 cents if anybody cares...

I will agree about when I was their age, I too would have liked that home. I was surprised there was so much room in the mobile home, I didn't realize it was that big.

[no rose colored glasses]

I don't LIKE any of these people.
Most of them have criminal records involving drugs.
Some of them have records that suggest violence.
No one would expect them to not comb their hair or wear dirty clothes and carry on with water streaming out of their eyes. Or snot coming out of their noses. On tv, 24/7.
But to become engaged, get tats, buy new clothes, make plans for the future, get a lawyer, get a spokesperson, make plans to get different housing, get donations.
These ppl were not ppl that I would like in my life before this happened and they aren't going to get any character , values or moral now are they. They are what they are, before, today and tomorrow.
I care that a little girl is missing. It doesn't look very good does it ? Thirty days.

I always love your posts, and I always agree with you whether you are on this forum, or on Caylees. 

[cookie]

If I am ever on television crying, I will let the tears and snot pour down my face.  I can't believe everyone doesn't know to do this by now.  I also fear Ron and Misty are the guilty ones here.

I would too, but the medicine I'm on for depression, sometimes I can't cry even if I want to, it's almost like I become numb, and it may appear like I have no emotions. And then other times I cry at a drop of a hat. Maybe Crystal is on some meds, or maybe she is numb and there are no more tears.

true Rosie and maybe Ron is on meds as well and there are no more tears...

I thought that Susan Smith's crying was fake and no tears, I feel that Crystals crying is real with no tears so I don't know what to think of it all...

[Jerseygirl345]

snipped from Brandi's post above: "They're going to have a small wedding for the time being, and when Haleigh comes home, they're going to have a big wedding at the church," said Annette Sykes, who is Cummings' paternal grandmother.

and my reply to this is ...how do they know that Haleigh won't be found before the small wedding? she could be found at any moment....the kid is not away at college or on vacation...the child is missing....hello???? any thought processing going on by anyone in this family???
WTF! just wait and have one wedding for pete's sake..!!

so so true

I almost came back on last night after I signed off becasue while I was trying to sleep something hit me...Misty saying thats what haleigh wanted for them to marry,  ( lets not forget the past tense word) Well if thats so whats the hurry -Wait for Haleigh to be found so she can attend the wedding... Selfish losers..

[Dolce]

I don't LIKE any of these people.
Most of them have criminal records involving drugs.
Some of them have records that suggest violence.
No one would expect them to not comb their hair or wear dirty clothes and carry on with water streaming out of their eyes. Or snot coming out of their noses. On tv, 24/7.
But to become engaged, get tats, buy new clothes, make plans for the future, get a lawyer, get a spokesperson, make plans to get different housing, get donations.
These ppl were not ppl that I would like in my life before this happened and they aren't going to get any character , values or moral now are they. They are what they are, before, today and tomorrow.
I care that a little girl is missing. It doesn't look very good does it ? Thirty days.

Well said!

[no rose colored glasses]

If I am ever on television crying, I will let the tears and snot pour down my face.  I can't believe everyone doesn't know to do this by now.  I also fear Ron and Misty are the guilty ones here.

I would too, but the medicine I'm on for depression, sometimes I can't cry even if I want to, it's almost like I become numb, and it may appear like I have no emotions. And then other times I cry at a drop of a hat. Maybe Crystal is on some meds, or maybe she is numb and there are no more tears.

true Rosie and maybe Ron is on meds as well and there are no more tears...

I thought that Susan Smith's crying was fake and no tears, I feel that Crystals crying is real with no tears so I don't know what to think of it all...

It can be hard to tell sometimes, at least for me. But one thing for me is Ron appears fake, I just don't trust him, and again my opinion, I could be wrong, sure won't be the first time.

[no rose colored glasses]

snipped from Brandi's post above: "They're going to have a small wedding for the time being, and when Haleigh comes home, they're going to have a big wedding at the church," said Annette Sykes, who is Cummings' paternal grandmother.

and my reply to this is ...how do they know that Haleigh won't be found before the small wedding? she could be found at any moment....the kid is not away at college or on vacation...the child is missing....hello???? any thought processing going on by anyone in this family???
WTF! just wait and have one wedding for pete's sake..!!

so so true

I almost came back on last night after I signed off becasue while I was trying to sleep something hit me...Misty saying thats what haleigh wanted for them to marry,  ( lets not forget the past tense word) Well if thats so whats the hurry -Wait for Haleigh to be found so she can attend the wedding... Selfish losers..

Exactly, Haleigh would probably love to be the flower girl.

[Jerseygirl345]

snipped from Brandi's post above: "They're going to have a small wedding for the time being, and when Haleigh comes home, they're going to have a big wedding at the church," said Annette Sykes, who is Cummings' paternal grandmother.

and my reply to this is ...how do they know that Haleigh won't be found before the small wedding? she could be found at any moment....the kid is not away at college or on vacation...the child is missing....hello???? any thought processing going on by anyone in this family???
WTF! just wait and have one wedding for pete's sake..!!

so so true

I almost came back on last night after I signed off becasue while I was trying to sleep something hit me...Misty saying thats what haleigh wanted for them to marry,  ( lets not forget the past tense word) Well if thats so whats the hurry -Wait for Haleigh to be found so she can attend the wedding... Selfish losers..

Exactly, Haleigh would probably love to be the flower girl.

OMG Rose she would make a beautiful flower girl...

[Dolce]

Can someone please explain as to why Caylee's picture is up in the back ground of this photo.....

[Wyks]

If anybody is curious as to where all of the hate for Ron is coming from - please send them a link to the last 20 pages on this forum. I have realized that I'm never going to be the popular one on this particular forum so I will take my medicine and continue to check in to see if anything has changed and the focus is back on finding Haleigh. Hope you all have a wonderful day and remember to keep all of your skeletons locked tightly in the big secret closet just in case a tragedy happens to you and you need your community's help. We all have skeletons...and seeing them stare back at you during an unimaginable tragedy after they've been exaggerated and embellished would have to be a nightmare.

In the future I will be trying to exercise my right as a member of this forum to scroll on by posts such as these.  It's taking all my patience and then some, to sit back and

IMO <---

OH LO.... my oh my... AGREED Wyks. Do me a favor and post your cute zippy when you come across one and I'll know to keep scrolling.

YIKES on a cracker.  MOO ----> (My Opinion Only)

That is all.

All righty then!   

And... "yikes on a cracker"  BWAHAHAHA!  Love that expression!

[no rose colored glasses]

Can someone please explain as to why Caylee's picture is up in the back ground of this photo.....

Dolce, your young with good eyesight, my eyesight isn't, I see a little girl, but can't make out anything else. 

[supersleuth99]

This blogger gives some good pointers..
Blog is called Eyes for Lies

here is the video they are referring to.:
http://www.news4jax.com/video/18684460/index.html

Sunday, February 15, 2009

Ronald Cummings, Misty Croslin and Little Haleigh
Many, many, many of you have asked me to review the case of missing Haleigh Cummings. She went missing last Monday night from her home, and hasn't been seen or found since. Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, and his girlfriend, Misty Croslin, tell us that Croslin put Haleigh to sleep, later went to sleep herself, and when she woke up to use the bathroom in the middle of the night, she found the kitchen light on, Haleigh was gone, and the back door was wide open, propped by a brick.

When I watch Cummings and Croslin speak, many things jump out at me. They are so numerous, I don't have the space here to write them all out, but I will identify a few things I've noted:

   1. When I first saw Ronald Cummings crying in his first plea for his daughter, several things jumped out at me. His crying episode was eerily reminiscent of a child's cry. Most adults don't cry like children. He whined, and acted out of breath, yet he wasn't. It was notable and perplexing.

      Yet he did sound truly congested; however, no tears fell from his face. Later on, however, he did cry very genuine and sincere tears, and the pouting cry notably changes into a regular cry. I find his behavior inconsistent here, and I can't explain it. Is he under the influence of something? He seems really glassy-eyed.

   2. I am also immediately struck by how he portrays no composure of hope in this interview. He seems to have zero hope that his daughter could still be alive. Why isn't he hanging onto the fact that if he and others get out there, they can potentially find her? This disturbs me.

   3. Why isn't he talking to his daughter on camera? "Haleigh, I'm here for you, if you are watching this. I'm going to find you." Does he even think about her being out there, and watching the news? Why isn't he thinking about being strong for her?

      When I see this interview, it seems to be more about Cummings being devastated than finding Haleigh. It's like he is feeling sorry for himself. Why? This is odd. Haleigh's mom, ironically, does talk to her daughter on camera, as I would expect any parent would, if they feared their daughter was kidnapped. She says, "Everybody's here for you. If you're watching these, your momma misses you, daddy misses you ... your whole family misses you and we will bring you home" (source).

   4. At time marker 1:15, Cummings drops down to the ground crying. This is so unusual for an adult to do. Children do this, but how many adults have you seen do this? Especially when the news is not conclusively devastating yet? How come everyone else who loved Haleigh is so composed and acting "normally", but Cummings is not? Here his cry is very shallow. It's not believable for me. If I re-look at this with the angle that Cummings could befeeling sorry for himself, it makes more sense.

   5. He says, "I know somebody took my little girl...some sorry piece of trash that will be wasted when it's all over." This is baffling to me. Haleigh was once found floating in a nearby waterway and nearly drowned, so how could he so conclusively rule this out? How can he so confidently rule out that Haleigh didn't wander away, that he didn't lock the door as he thought he did, that when Croslin's relatives came to visit earlier that night, that they didn't unlock another door or open a window when he was away?

      Would you as a parent be so certain about this, especially since you know your daughter wandered away before? This bothers me.

   6. At one point, Cummings says, "All I want is my children…All I want is my child back.” I thought this was very unusual. Another day, he talks about how others are making this situation all about a custody issue. That was really strange, but if we pair that, with this statement above, you have to wonder, is he afraid he won't have either of his children, perhaps, due to something he has done here? Then this strange slip might actually make sense, wouldn't it?

   7. Then he says something that unnerved me in a huge way. Cummings says, "I’d give my life for my child’s life back.”

      What? Why is he saying this? It makes no sense. Is that why his cry is so confusing? Does he fake concern and worry, and then really cry over what he may know already happened to his daughter? You would think he would have said instead, "I'd give my life for my child back", but that is NOT what he says. Does this indicate that he believes his daughter is not alive? Is that why he thought earlier, "All I want is my children..." because he fears if the truth comes out, he will lose them, or at least his remaining son?

      It's troubling, to say the least.

   8. Notice how Cummings reiterates that he is trying to do the best he can, that someone stole his child while he was at work? Is he building an alibi? Setting a timeline? Why isn't he focusing his energy on getting Haleigh back instead of feeling sorry for himself? Most parents of missing children are focused on getting their children, and don't care at all about themselves, but Cummings is notably different. Most parents know they have to be strong for their children, and work to bring them home. Why not Cummings?

   9. The reporter then asks, "Can I ask when you noticed the back door was open, and if that was what kind of alerted you to something?" Just before the reporter asks Cummings this, he is crying, sobbing and somber. Then listen to Cummings' response to the question. His demeanor and voice change dramatically. It's very notable and very alarming for me. You don't stop crying and change your entire demeanor when you are deeply sobbing and in pain like Cummings wants us to believe he is. You just don't do it, yet oddly Cummings does. Cummings says in an angry, deep and controlled tone, "No. My girlfriend was awake at 3 o'clock in the morning when I got off of work." When he says this, there is a deep anger in Cummings' voice that appears out of nowhere. It's chilling. Clearly, this question got Cummings angry. Why would that be?

  10. Later in the interview, Cummings says very strangely and out of nowhere, when he deeply sobs, "I do plan to take the trash out when it is time." This blindsides you. It's not related to anything being said at the time. It's like Cummings is in his own world. I am sure like most people, at first you think, what is he talking about?? It's absolutely perplexing.

      But when I watch him say it and watch his emotions, he shows pure destitution in his face. Like someone sold his soul. It's absolutely haunting. I can't help but wonder, is this some type of warning he is contemplating suicide "when it is time"? Perhaps, if he were to get caught?

      What else could this statement mean? Is he warning us? Is he under the influence of drugs here and extra emotional? Also, just after he says it, and thinks about it, he also shows true distress and sadness on his face. It's alarming and notable. But when the reporter asks the next question, all of these genuine emotions fade away again.

  11. The reporter asks, what would you say to people who may have information out there? Notice Cummings doesn't even think to talk to his daughter again. Why?

  12. Both Cummings and Croslin's body language in all the videos I see displays a sense of defeat. They are hunched over. Their shoulders come forward. They physically look down, and act subdued. It appears they have no hope whatsoever, again and again, that Cummings' daughter will be returned to them. This strikes me as very odd. Why aren't they tense, nervous and anxious to find her? That would be normal. They should be on edge that things might not happen fast enough, yet there is no urgency with these two. Anyone can spot that? Why aren't these two on a mission to find Haleigh? Compare their behavior to that of George and Cindy Anthony. It's notably different.

  13. News reports say that on the 911 call, Cummings was in a rage, and really worried about his daughter. I don't hear that in the call at all. I don't hear any indication of fear, stress or true and genuine alarm. I hear feigned anger, by his threats and choice of words.

  14. Why did Croslin wait 30 minutes from waking up and finding Haleigh missing to alert someone of the possible abduction? Why didn't she summon for help earlier? Especially since she knows Haleigh once wandered off and nearly drowned before?

  15. What predator is going to go into a house late at night, and risk taking one child out of a room full of people? Let's say Haleigh wandered outside; there should have been some proof of a door unlocked or something, but Cummings and Croslin deny that. They, instead, tell us that the door where the predator went out, had to be forced closed, that Haleigh couldn't open it, and couldn't reach the deadbolt. This tells us that the door likely stuck when you opened or closed it. That would likely mean the door made a fair amount of noise to open and close it, and it took some effort to open it, right? What predator would use that door?

      What predator would turn on a light in the kitchen, risk announcing himself and make it possible to be clearly identified by someone in the house or outside? What predator would take the time to bring or find a cinder block, and take the time to prop the door open? How come there are no signs of forced entry into the home? To me, these are highly unlikely or implausible circumstances.

  16. I also haven't seen Cummings or Croslin participate in any searches reported by any news agencies. Have I missed this? I have looked for it several times. Has anyone seen them help in the search? Post fliers, or go look for her themselves? If they haven't, why aren't they?

  17. Cummings and Croslin have told two different stories of where Haleigh slept that night. This is interesting. You would think their stories would be the same. Cummings told Nancy Grace that Croslin slept in the same bed as the children on February 11. Then on February 12, Croslin says that Haleigh was in a different bed in the same room. Why aren't they getting their facts right?

      Worse, when they are both on Greta van Susteren's show, Greta asks, "How far was Haleigh physically from you, Misty?" Croslin says, "Probably, like, not three or four inches away." Look at Cummings' eyes when Croslin talks. They are plastered towards Croslin though he doesn't turn his head. It's very controlling behavior. He is fascinating to watch.

      Greta then asks Croslin how far they were apart a second time, and at that time, Cummings shakes his head in a side-to-side motion, indicating he is thinking "no". With that, Croslin backtracks and says, "No, um, I'm not sure. It wasn't that far away." Next, as Greta is talking again getting ready to ask another question, Cummings is trying to coach Croslin, and tell her what to say! I can't hear what he is saying, but why does he feel the need to do this? Cummings then says, "No, I know where the beds were at. They were about four feet apart from the edge of the bed she was in to the edge of the bed Haleigh was in."

      These two can't even agree where the beds were placed in this room! Forget about who slept in what bed. This is a huge inconsistency. Clearly, both are capable of describing how far two beds are apart, but if the facts aren't true, we wouldn't be surprised to see such a discrepancy, would we?

  18. Earlier on the Greta show, Greta asks Croslin who was closest to the back door: Haleigh or Croslin? Look how long it takes Croslin to answer that. She makes an "Hmmm...I don't know" expression. Why doesn't she know? She should spout the answer off without thought, but she doesn't. She finally answers and when she does, under his breath, Cummings says, "I'd like to comment." He doesn't say what is on his mind because Greta didn't hear him, but it shows he is controlling nonetheless, over and over.

  19. Also in the Greta interview, Cummings says to Croslin, "Look at the camera" at one point. He gives us every indication he has a temper, and is very controlling and manipulative. Cummings also nods his head when hears what Croslin says at points in the interview, as if he approves. He is scrutinizing her every word, and Croslin knows it.

  20. Croslin also keeps saying the same story over and over again. She says something to the effect that she got up, went to the bathroom, found the kitchen light on, and then she went back and found Haleigh was gone. She always finishes it with "That's all I know." I find her memory of that event is quite sparse and lacking. You would think she would remember more detail. When we recollect a story, oftentimes, we remember different details, or thoughts--things we were thinking at the time. Yet Croslin seems to have no "thinking memories" of her experience. It is more like she is talking from rote memory. She only repeats the same thing over and over again.

  21. The same is true for her 911 call. The details are sketchy at best. Her memories don't flow logically. It doesn't make sense.

          911: "911, what's your emergency"

          Misty Croslin: "Hi...umm...we just woke up...and our back door was wide open, and we can't find our daughter."

          We just woke up?

          911: "OK, when did you last see her?"

          Misty Croslin: "Um, we like just...you know...it was about 10 o'clock... we were...she was sleeping- I ...she?...cleaning...

          Why doesn't she have normal recollections here?

I so hope I am wrong for Haleigh's sake. It doesn't look good from where I am sitting now.

[rana]

Amen.  Preach it sista.  We all live in glass houses.  You have said what I have thought many times when reading posts.  And heaven forbid any of us are ever in this position.

Glass houses indeed... but very different situations IMO.

No one is perfect... but how many of us here:  No

1.) Have ANY drug charges -  dropped or not,  No

2.) Have multiple drug charges -  dropped or not, No

3.) Have other charges - dropped or not, No

4.) Have had leaving the scene of an accident charges - dropped or not No

5.) Have had restraining orders against us No

6.) Call our significant other a stupid effing b.... or the male equivalent for ANY reason.  Before,during and after I beat the snot out of him for shoving me across the room,no longer a significant anything to me either,though he is afraid of me

7.) Have had Child Protective Services come to our homes for ANY reason, Yes, to place a friends children with me and another time because a girl I met and spoke witth 10 minutes showed up an hour later,left her infant twins with me for 4 months,said she would return in an hour when she left them

8.) Have kids out of wedlock with two (that we know of)  underage/minor individuals..... Eeerrmmm, I was the underage individual,my oldest whom has finished college,married and has children/owns her home was a product of a rape,thank you, and my oldest sons father was hit by a bus and killed when he was 2.. Then I met and married a sailor and had 3 more beautiful children.

9.)......oh heck nevermind -- I'll stop there.  Good idea,Some of these things you should not use as a tool to judge people..

Sheesh.

Give me a break.

Again, I will say, I form my judgments by facts,which there are not many substantiated facts out there, Other then Haleigh is missing.  From what I have seen , Neither side is perfect so BOTH should be suspect. Ron is not perfect and neither is Crystal,neither are any of the other family members... So, we have that both sides have issues,both are not perfect and have made mistakes, I would more be asking WHY one side is on tv and on the net pointing the finger every where they can and it has been shown the person online is telling mis truths.. That is a question I have.....Thought this was about Haleigh,not them making RC and others look like monsters and themselves like innocent victims, far as I see it Haleigh is the ONLY victim here and I hope she is found soon , alive and well.  So can we please move on with out the slanted views?

The number 6 sounds like clear and necessary self defense. IMO, that's not the case with Cummings. Was Misty threatening Ron's person physically or verbally when he called her that name? Misty is very small. I doubt Ron was in fear for his life.

The number 7 sounds like a GREAT thing - something to be proud of in this csae (in the red text.)

I wasn't aware that Ron had extra babies placed in HIS care as you did, so that dosn't apply to him does it?

And the number 8.... Rape is not a choice. You did the best and had your wonderful child after the tradegy of rape. Also, I too know people who had a child out of wedlock while under 18. They too  subsequently married. That is great and wonderful. But that didn't happen here either.... with either baby mama so it does not apply.

Number 9 --

Given every example you cited (very different from Cummings outcomes)  I would find all those commendable, admirable actions to be prasied not disparaged. However, conversely, the Cummings examples are not a glowing endorsement.. in my opinion

Self-defense is always a great thing.

Saving babies is always a wonderful thing. 

Carrying a pregnancy to term when you want to give birth and cherish the child is beyond a wonderful thing.

You said no to all the others.

I do not see ANY correlation b/w your examples and Cummings.......in my opinion.

MOO <--- My Opinion Only

[Kat_Gram]

I don't LIKE any of these people.
Most of them have criminal records involving drugs.
Some of them have records that suggest violence.
No one would expect them to not comb their hair or wear dirty clothes and carry on with water streaming out of their eyes. Or snot coming out of their noses. On tv, 24/7.
But to become engaged, get tats, buy new clothes, make plans for the future, get a lawyer, get a spokesperson, make plans to get different housing, get donations.
These ppl were not ppl that I would like in my life before this happened and they aren't going to get any character , values or moral now are they. They are what they are, before, today and tomorrow.
I care that a little girl is missing. It doesn't look very good does it ? Thirty days.

I always love your posts, and I always agree with you whether you are on this forum, or on Caylees. 

I came to this blog for Natalee Holloway.
Beth was criticized for looking nice. Well, it was the way she was, an attractive, well spoken educated woman whose grooming was a habit. She didn't turn herself out any differently than what she did her entire life. She looked gaunt some times and we don't know what kind of anguish she felt. She was a lady and always presented herself as one.
Mark Lunsford and his parents were decent , honest people who loved Jessica.
Ed Smart was always well turned out also.
These people presented themselves as what they are and were.
So does this bunch. Not much good has been shown to us about any of them.
The Anthony family aslo showed themselves for what they were too.
I don't know how people could warm up to the Croslin / Cummings / Griffs clan. Feel some sympathy for the GrandMother, Ms. Neves, and of course pain that a little girl is missing, but beyond that, I really don't give a damn about any of them.
I want whoever did this to be discovered and bought to justice.
I assume LE wants the same thing becasue they are working hard to get a result.


 

[cookie]

snip post from Searching:
Again, I will say, I form my judgments by facts,which there are not many substantiated facts out there, Other then Haleigh is missing.  From what I have seen , Neither side is perfect so BOTH should be suspect. Ron is not perfect and neither is Crystal,neither are any of the other family members... So, we have that both sides have issues,both are not perfect and have made mistakes, I would more be asking WHY one side is on tv and on the net pointing the finger every where they can and it has been shown the person online is telling mis truths.. That is a question I have.....Thought this was about Haleigh,not them making RC and others look like monsters and themselves like innocent victims, far as I see it Haleigh is the ONLY victim here and I hope she is found soon , alive and well.  So can we please move on with out the slanted views?

Again, Searching, I think that you are me in a monkey suit ....agreed with your views here...

[Jerseygirl345]

May have already been posted:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133403&catid=3



Haleigh's Mother Obtains a Spokesperson and Seeks an Attorney
Posted By: Jessica Clark     19 mins ago

SATSUMA, FL -- Haleigh's mother's side of the family has asked a spokesperson to help them.

Wayanne Kruger from Arizona has come to Satsuma, Florida to help Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's mother, while the search for the missing five year old continues.

Kruger told First Coast News Sheffield's mother, Marie Griffis, sought her out.

Kruger said she will help the family find a home in Putnam County. All of them live in Baker County. Kruger will also speak on their behalf and help them find an attorney.

Griffis said she wanted a spokesperson because she did not know how to handle the media.

Kruger said her young daughter was molested by her godfather in the early 1990's.

Since then, she has helped many families in the middle of child abuse cases and thought she could help Sheffield, even though it's a child abduction case.

Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her Satsuma home February 9th.

Kruger said when she saw Sheffield on television, she remembered when she was on television for the first time. "I was shaking, and I was upset. I didn't know what to say and I didn't know what to do."

Kruger said she is helping Sheffield for free.

Lawyer! Why?

Just a guess, but maybe to try to get custody of Ron Jr.

Thats what I was thinking- Custody- War with the Hatfields and the McCoys...

[cookie]

snip post from Searching:
Again, I will say, I form my judgments by facts,which there are not many substantiated facts out there, Other then Haleigh is missing.  From what I have seen , Neither side is perfect so BOTH should be suspect. Ron is not perfect and neither is Crystal,neither are any of the other family members... So, we have that both sides have issues,both are not perfect and have made mistakes, I would more be asking WHY one side is on tv and on the net pointing the finger every where they can and it has been shown the person online is telling mis truths.. That is a question I have.....Thought this was about Haleigh,not them making RC and others look like monsters and themselves like innocent victims, far as I see it Haleigh is the ONLY victim here and I hope she is found soon , alive and well.  So can we please move on with out the slanted views?

Again, Searching, I think that you are me in a monkey suit ....agreed with your views here...

quoted my own post that I have the same views and thoughts as quite a few posters on here..this one just caught my eye at the moment....lots of good views and posts from a lot of people on here....

[no rose colored glasses]

supersleuth99..thank-you for that, very interesting, well written and made excellent points.

[Jerseygirl345]

Can someone please explain as to why Caylee's picture is up in the back ground of this photo.....

I blew the pic up and looks like Haleigh -In the purple dress..