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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 - 3/12/09 (Read 207672 times)
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Lifesong
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #240 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:12:10 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on March 10, 2009, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Kermit on March 10, 2009, 02:24:03 AM
Kyle said June 6, 2007
Here's some interesting news:
John goes to Aruba on Wednesday.
For the record... June 6, 2008, right? Someone has a list, checking it twice.
Thanks 2NJ! I was just gonna ask...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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March 10, 2009, 12:14:23 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:10:05 PM
Good Morning to all Monkey's...You Monkey's are unbelievable!
TIME WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH
Yes, it will! I am pretty much strongly leaning to the new "cargo port" as the "link" instead of an "oil exploration/pipeline" one! (I can't rule out
either
, though)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:11:36 PM
GOD BLESS CAGEMAN AND FAMILY
OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND FAMILY
Amen.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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March 10, 2009, 12:15:36 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on March 10, 2009, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: Anna on March 10, 2009, 11:58:38 AM
No one drained that "pond" as it is not really even a pond but a storm sewer!
It just dries up like that when there is no rainfall. All locals would know this, too. Not a good place to hide anything.
.
Right!
I do believe it was CAPS who was telling SM that the pond was drained/was being drained.
Kyle was hearing that from someone as well - with contradictory (and correct) information from Silvetti.
Although - it appears Kyle was only hearing portions of the correct information from Silvetti.
He was and you can imagine how my posts stating it just dired up were received at the time! Of course, I had to be the biggest of liars so as to discredit me and support a couple of favorite theories held by some.
But that did not change the facts of the matter that it just dries up and often, too, so why would any local use it for hiding I don't understand.
Also by Silvetti saying a search was being done by "others" do you suppose he was just going to take the word of those searching for Jose Tromp that there was nothing there and never really planned to do a search of his own?
That's confusing.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Quote from: Lifesong on March 10, 2009, 12:12:10 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on March 10, 2009, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Kermit on March 10, 2009, 02:24:03 AM
Kyle said June 6, 2007
Here's some interesting news:
John goes to Aruba on Wednesday.
For the record... June 6, 2008, right? Someone has a list, checking it twice.
Thanks 2NJ! I was just gonna ask...
Don't forget, there's a few perfect humans out there.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #245 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:17:45 PM »
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:10:05 PM
Good Morning to all Monkey's...You Monkey's are unbelievable!
TIME WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH
Yes, it will! I am pretty much strongly leaning to the new "cargo port" as the "link" instead of an "oil exploration/pipeline" one! (I can't rule out
either
, though)
Wherever the TRUTH takes us Wreck!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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March 10, 2009, 12:18:48 PM »
Quote from: Lifesong on March 10, 2009, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:11:36 PM
GOD BLESS CAGEMAN AND FAMILY
OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND FAMILY
Amen.
May God give them strength in their suffering and loss. Nothing can return their precious daughter to them, not even this life sentence.
.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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March 10, 2009, 12:19:46 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on March 10, 2009, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Lifesong on March 10, 2009, 12:12:10 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on March 10, 2009, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Kermit on March 10, 2009, 02:24:03 AM
Kyle said June 6, 2007
Here's some interesting news:
John goes to Aruba on Wednesday.
For the record... June 6, 2008, right? Someone has a list, checking it twice.
Thanks 2NJ! I was just gonna ask...
Don't forget,
there's a few perfect humans
out there.
Those perfect humans are so focused on us that they aren't even discussing anything..............
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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March 10, 2009, 12:20:57 PM »
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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March 10, 2009, 12:21:28 PM »
Wreck, You are correct that there is no death penalty under Dutch law. I think that is pretty well true of the whole EU. And last I heard the Dutch have in custody a suspect in 9/11 which they refuse to extradite to the U.S. because they don't respect our system and will not extradite someone who may face the death penalty. So much for treaties and agreements.
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Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #250 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:21:42 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:10:05 PM
Good Morning to all Monkey's...You Monkey's are unbelievable!
TIME WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH
Yes, it will! I am pretty much strongly leaning to the new "cargo port" as the "link" instead of an "oil exploration/pipeline" one! (I can't rule out
either
, though)
Wherever the TRUTH takes us Wreck!
You know, back a few months ago when Kyle came on here and stated that there was no way they were mapping for a "pipeline" -- he may have been telling the truth after all. They were mapping for the new cargo harbor!
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jen3560
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #251 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:23:23 PM »
Quote from: Anna on March 10, 2009, 12:15:36 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on March 10, 2009, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: Anna on March 10, 2009, 11:58:38 AM
No one drained that "pond" as it is not really even a pond but a storm sewer!
It just dries up like that when there is no rainfall. All locals would know this, too. Not a good place to hide anything.
.
Right!
I do believe it was CAPS who was telling SM that the pond was drained/was being drained.
Kyle was hearing that from someone as well - with contradictory (and correct) information from Silvetti.
Although - it appears Kyle was only hearing portions of the correct information from Silvetti.
He was and you can imagine how my posts stating it just dired up were received at the time! Of course, I had to be the biggest of liars so as to discredit me and support a couple of favorite theories held by some.
But that did not change the facts of the matter that it just dries up and often, too, so why would any local use it for hiding I don't understand.
Also by Silvetti saying a search was being done by "others" do you suppose he was just going to take the word of those searching for Jose Tromp that there was nothing there and never really planned to do a search of his own?
That's confusing.
I agree - no local (Paulus) would be stupid enough to put anything in that pond - knowing it dries up regularly.
It was dry twice between June 2005 and Feb 2008 (that we know of).
I personally feel that Silvetti was at that pond at that time. To actually search it? Probably not. The "by others" he told Kyle about, IMO, was likely himself. And maybe a Monkey and his "witness"?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #252 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:24:05 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on March 10, 2009, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Lifesong on March 10, 2009, 12:12:10 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on March 10, 2009, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Kermit on March 10, 2009, 02:24:03 AM
Kyle said June 6, 2007
Here's some interesting news:
John goes to Aruba on Wednesday.
For the record... June 6, 2008, right? Someone has a list, checking it twice.
Thanks 2NJ! I was just gonna ask...
Don't forget, there's a few perfect humans out there.
Ain't it great that He made them monkeys!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #253 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:25:57 PM »
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:10:05 PM
Good Morning to all Monkey's...You Monkey's are unbelievable!
TIME WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH
Yes, it will! I am pretty much strongly leaning to the new "cargo port" as the "link" instead of an "oil exploration/pipeline" one! (I can't rule out
either
, though)
Wherever the TRUTH takes us Wreck!
You know, back a few months ago when Kyle came on here and stated that there was no way they were mapping for a "pipeline" -- he may have been telling the truth after all. They were mapping for the new cargo harbor!
Could be!
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #254 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:26:11 PM »
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:10:05 PM
Good Morning to all Monkey's...You Monkey's are unbelievable!
TIME WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH
Yes, it will! I am pretty much strongly leaning to the new "cargo port" as the "link" instead of an "oil exploration/pipeline" one! (I can't rule out
either
, though)
Wherever the TRUTH takes us Wreck!
You know, back a few months ago when Kyle came on here and stated that there was no way they were mapping for a "pipeline" -- he may have been telling the truth after all. They were mapping for the new cargo harbor!
There are so many advantages to them being down there!Oil,Port,Start a offshore business,closer to South America for both Silvetti and Schaefer to do business....All they had to do was have an appropriate PROTOCOL set up for the exact reason we're even discussing the cage/trap..That simple fact drives me crazy.Go down there without an American FBI,CIA,NSA operative..Very simple if you ask me.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #255 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:26:14 PM »
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:10:05 PM
Good Morning to all Monkey's...You Monkey's are unbelievable!
TIME WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH
Yes, it will! I am pretty much strongly leaning to the new "cargo port" as the "link" instead of an "oil exploration/pipeline" one! (I can't rule out
either
, though)
Wherever the TRUTH takes us Wreck!
You know, back a few months ago when Kyle came on here and stated that there was no way they were mapping for a "pipeline" -- he may have been telling the truth after all. They were mapping for the new cargo harbor!
You can sell a map over and over again. I was shocked at the amount companies are paying just for the bid specs, which has to include the mapping data - that's a lucrative business right there.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #256 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:26:55 PM »
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:10:05 PM
Good Morning to all Monkey's...You Monkey's are unbelievable!
TIME WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH
Yes, it will! I am pretty much strongly leaning to the new "cargo port" as the "link" instead of an "oil exploration/pipeline" one! (I can't rule out
either
, though)
Wherever the TRUTH takes us Wreck!
You know, back a few months ago when Kyle came on here and stated that there was no way they were mapping for a "pipeline" -- he may have been telling the truth after all. They were mapping for the new cargo harbor!
Well, we know John Silvetti found a need to open an office according to Kyle when that was never stated originally.
With all the huge and lucrative contracts being awarded all over the place, I would think any company worth anything could surely find any number of jobs to do.
And of course a harbor is going to be on the outward side of the island, etc. Ease of docking and all that. Aruba alone had that plus the pipeline for natural gas by itself.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #257 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:29:47 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:19:46 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on March 10, 2009, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Lifesong on March 10, 2009, 12:12:10 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on March 10, 2009, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Kermit on March 10, 2009, 02:24:03 AM
Kyle said June 6, 2007
Here's some interesting news:
John goes to Aruba on Wednesday.
For the record... June 6, 2008, right? Someone has a list, checking it twice.
Thanks 2NJ! I was just gonna ask...
Don't forget,
there's a few perfect humans
out there.
Those perfect humans are so focused on us that they aren't even discussing anything..............
Oh, well - see. I never even thought of that.
In my little world, if you don't post here - I don't even know you post.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #258 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:31:07 PM »
Quote from: Lifesong on March 10, 2009, 12:29:47 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:19:46 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on March 10, 2009, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Lifesong on March 10, 2009, 12:12:10 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on March 10, 2009, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Kermit on March 10, 2009, 02:24:03 AM
Kyle said June 6, 2007
Here's some interesting news:
John goes to Aruba on Wednesday.
For the record... June 6, 2008, right? Someone has a list, checking it twice.
Thanks 2NJ! I was just gonna ask...
Don't forget,
there's a few perfect humans
out there.
Those perfect humans are so focused on us that they aren't even discussing anything..............
Oh, well - see. I never even thought of that.
In my little world, if you don't post here - I don't even know you post.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #806 3/9/09 -
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Reply #259 on:
March 10, 2009, 12:32:18 PM »
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: wreck on March 10, 2009, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2009, 12:10:05 PM
Good Morning to all Monkey's...You Monkey's are unbelievable!
TIME WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH
Yes, it will! I am pretty much strongly leaning to the new "cargo port" as the "link" instead of an "oil exploration/pipeline" one! (I can't rule out
either
, though)
Wherever the TRUTH takes us Wreck!
You know, back a few months ago when Kyle came on here and stated that there was no way they were mapping for a "pipeline" -- he may have been telling the truth after all. They were mapping for the new cargo harbor!
OK - so for the hotels/resort part of the new harbour, we know that the bribery took place between Oduber/Breisen and this company:
ORANJESTAD, ARUBA-- A joint venture by Sol Meliá and Spanish developer Grupo Trusam to develop a luxury resort has been approved by the government of Aruba. The project will include a Meliá hotel, a casino, a spa, a beach club, several restaurants and other luxury services on the land occupied by the old Hotel Bushiri, which will become the new center of Oranjestad, the capital of Aruba.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-162287449.html
So......................did those two "award" the port itself at that time also? And the MTBS conducting a "public tender" that has not been quite so public is just an eye wash?
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===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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