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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
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Quote from: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 03:55:36 PM
Wyks, I just wanted to let you know that I did read your post & we are on the same wave length pretty much in total. Deenie, "kindred spirit" comes to mind
Thanks Capp!
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Quote from: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 04:14:16 PM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response. If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...??? They can't really do it without enlisting her help. She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?
They'd definitely have to get on the same page with Casey. And since the public seems to 'be on' them all re the passing of notes and letters between family, guess they are getting desperate for other ways of getting info back n forth without the public's knowledge. What's next, carrier pidgeon?
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Quote from: Babybear on May 03, 2010, 05:10:03 PM
Hi Sunny---To call Baez a "Sneaky lil loser" is a beautiful thing. Music to my ears, or my eyes as it were.......... He looks like a mouse trying to steal some cheese. All he needs is three long whiskers sticking out of each side of his chipmunk cheeks.
Good one Babybear!!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
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Quote from: TURBOTHINK on May 03, 2010, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: Western Observr on May 03, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too, but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.
They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years. But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.
Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.
Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.
They could have any number of folks waiting in the wings to testify they knew of sexual abuse of Casey for years by GA/LA, even by CA, from females isn't unheard of, or anyone else..... however..... they will likely also have to explain why that type of thing was known at that time yet went unreported back then, why no one sought help for her etc. Why wait til now for them to go oh yeah by the way, this happened. Wouldn't it just boil down to 'thanks for that info', but not taken seriously without reports, evidence, treatment, etc to back it all up?
How much money would it take for someone to perjure themselves?
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
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Quote from: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 07:06:19 PM
Quote from: TURBOTHINK on May 03, 2010, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: Western Observr on May 03, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too, but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.
They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years. But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.
Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.
Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.
If her boinking buddies are willing to testify that she gave them this molested story, they will be discredited as to why they did not come forward much sooner - like when Casey was first arrested or after Caylee's remains were found....I mean she is facing the DP so why be secretive as a witness if its exculpatory? After all Jesse & Tony gave that knowledge of an accusation by Casey to LE as they were both interviewed without hesitation, which also by the way would question why PTSD or a "mental block" would occur years and/or months prior to Caylee's murder. If they go with a PTSD defense, they will have to dance around why Caylee being killed is the ONLY thing Casey blocked & yet not the memory of being abused....JMO
Yeppers!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
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Wow that got long!!! I'm so sorry.
Well, sometimes in order to be truly insightful, one has to expound. Your post was just long enough to be truly insightful...and very informative. Thanks!
Ohhhh thanks, Tevye! Was hoping it would be helpful.
Yes it was, thank-you
Thanks!!
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Quote from: cookie on May 03, 2010, 08:32:16 PM
lol...it only takes once doesn't it....
Yep!!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
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Quote from: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 04:14:16 PM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response. If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...??? They can't really do it without enlisting her help.
She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?
Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination. Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind. If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day. Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view. If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body? I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred. How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional? She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony. I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month. One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder. She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.
Thanks for the reply. got kicked out for a bit and then picked up the little gson from preschool.
I know all you said (so well) is the logical rebuttal but with this crew defending her and the latest go-round of privacy motions makes me so suspicious of what kind of malarky they're wanting to pull next. I think JP will tire quickly of their redundant motions, so we'll see.
To attempt to paint her in any kind of frail, wounded light will fail and for that to happen I really think she'd need to testify and I just don't see that happening.
It would be on the order of the Menedez brothers type of shocker defense which failed them and I don't think they were half the evil she is.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
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Quote from: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:59:53 PM
Quote from: TURBOTHINK on May 03, 2010, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: Western Observr on May 03, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too, but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.
They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years. But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.
Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.
Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.
They could have any number of folks waiting in the wings to testify they knew of sexual abuse of Casey for years by GA/LA, even by CA, from females isn't unheard of, or anyone else..... however..... they will likely also have to explain why that type of thing was known at that time yet went unreported back then, why no one sought help for her etc. Why wait til now for them to go oh yeah by the way, this happened. Wouldn't it just boil down to 'thanks for that info', but not taken seriously without reports, evidence, treatment, etc to back it all up?
How much money would it take for someone to perjure themselves?
Ding!
She conveniently used it only when she needed to excuse her bad acts or when she felt someone was on to her lies enough that she had to play victim in an attempt to manipulate that person from feeling bad dismissing her from their life - that is not PTSD like at all. How would that person look on the stand bringing it out now not then, not to LE but to her defense attorneys instead....not credible. At least with
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
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Quote from: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 11:37:30 PM
Quote from: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:59:53 PM
Quote from: TURBOTHINK on May 03, 2010, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: Western Observr on May 03, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too, but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.
They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years. But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.
Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.
Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.
They could have any number of folks waiting in the wings to testify they knew of sexual abuse of Casey for years by GA/LA, even by CA, from females isn't unheard of, or anyone else..... however..... they will likely also have to explain why that type of thing was known at that time yet went unreported back then, why no one sought help for her etc. Why wait til now for them to go oh yeah by the way, this happened. Wouldn't it just boil down to 'thanks for that info', but not taken seriously without reports, evidence, treatment, etc to back it all up?
How much money would it take for someone to perjure themselves?
Ding!
She conveniently used it only when she needed to excuse her bad acts or when she felt someone was on to her lies enough that she had to play victim in an attempt to manipulate that person from feeling bad dismissing her from their life - that is not PTSD like at all. How would that person look on the stand bringing it out now not then, not to LE but to her defense attorneys instead....not credible. At least with
opps , hit the wrong key
....Tony and Jesse they reported the story she told each of them to LE when they were interviewed.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
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Quote from: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 04:14:16 PM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response. If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...??? They can't really do it without enlisting her help.
She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?
Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination. Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind. If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day. Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view. If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body? I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred. How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional? She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony. I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month. One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder. She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.
Thanks for the reply. got kicked out for a bit and then picked up the little gson from preschool.
I know all you said (so well) is the logical rebuttal but with this crew defending her and the latest go-round of privacy motions makes me so suspicious of what kind of malarky they're wanting to pull next. I think JP will tire quickly of their redundant motions, so we'll see.
To attempt to paint her in any kind of frail, wounded light will fail and for that to happen I really think she'd need to testify and I just don't see that happening.
It would be on the order of the
Menedez brothers
type of shocker defense which failed them and I don't think they were half the evil she is.
For what its worth, I've never wavered whatsoever in confidence that no matter what this defense attempts, it will fail. It begins with Casey not reporting her child missing for 31 days & ends with all her lies. Well, a ton in between but everyone gets my point. For example, the jury might ask "Why didnt she care what happened to her car? She made no effort to find it & had to have known it wasnt where she left it." OR "Why did she make up so many stories, if she doesnt remember what happened? If she was innocent but didnt remember, she wouldnt have offered any elaborate stories, right?"
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So if they go with PTSD they gotta get rid of those party pictures so the jury dont see her having a good time.
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Quote from: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 04:14:16 PM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response. If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...??? They can't really do it without enlisting her help.
She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?
Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination. Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind. If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day. Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view. If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body? I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred. How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional? She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony. I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month. One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder. She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.
Thanks for the reply. got kicked out for a bit and then picked up the little gson from preschool.
I know all you said (so well) is the logical rebuttal but with this crew defending her and the latest go-round of privacy motions makes me so suspicious of what kind of malarky they're wanting to pull next. I think JP will tire quickly of their redundant motions, so we'll see.
To attempt to paint her in any kind of frail, wounded light will fail and for that to happen I really think she'd need to testify and I just don't see that happening.
It would be on the order of the
Menedez brothers
type of shocker defense which failed them and I don't think they were half the evil she is.
For what its worth, I've never wavered whatsoever in confidence that no matter what this defense attempts, it will fail. It begins with Casey not reporting her child missing for 31 days & ends with all her lies. Well, a ton in between but everyone gets my point. For example, the jury might ask "Why didnt she care what happened to her car? She made no effort to find it & had to have known it wasnt where she left it." OR "Why did she make up so many stories, if she doesnt remember what happened? If she was innocent but didnt remember, she wouldnt have offered any elaborate stories, right?"
Yes, I think her elaborate lies will be her undoing. How can they distinguish which lies are defense mechanism ( her psyche 'protecting' her), which lies are the garden variety (that according to her mother every person does) and which statements aren't lies ( the abuse ) do they think they can pick and choose through her crazy quilt of statements and label this or that truth, this was a lie but she didn't know she was lying or she knew on this she was lying but the police coerced her.......there's just too much insanity to try and spin it. Also the many lies that had no bearing on this case whatsoever prove that she was a prolific liar long before the murder, all the crud she told TL and friends is a good example. This is such a weird circumstance that a woman who kills her child has a maniacal family support system that would be willing to back up her stories and a legal team that is willing to implicate and destroy innocent bystanders in order to promote their own agendas. Scary stuff.
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Quote from: Mtnmom on May 04, 2010, 12:20:31 AM
So if they go with PTSD they gotta get rid of those party pictures so the jury dont see her having a good time.
Mtnmom, lucky for her they already explained those party pix with the infamous ugly coping explanation.
Wonder if they forgot that one already?
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Quote from: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 04:14:16 PM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response. If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...??? They can't really do it without enlisting her help.
She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?
Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination. Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind. If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day. Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view. If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body? I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred. How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional? She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony. I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month. One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder. She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.
Thanks for the reply. got kicked out for a bit and then picked up the little gson from preschool.
I know all you said (so well) is the logical rebuttal but with this crew defending her and the latest go-round of privacy motions makes me so suspicious of what kind of malarky they're wanting to pull next. I think JP will tire quickly of their redundant motions, so we'll see.
To attempt to paint her in any kind of frail, wounded light will fail and for that to happen I really think she'd need to testify and I just don't see that happening.
It would be on the order of the
Menedez brothers
type of shocker defense which failed them and I don't think they were half the evil she is.
For what its worth, I've never wavered whatsoever in confidence that no matter what this defense attempts, it will fail. It begins with Casey not reporting her child missing for 31 days & ends with all her lies. Well, a ton in between but everyone gets my point. For example, the jury might ask "Why didnt she care what happened to her car? She made no effort to find it & had to have known it wasnt where she left it." OR "Why did she make up so many stories, if she doesnt remember what happened? If she was innocent but didnt remember, she wouldnt have offered any elaborate stories, right?"
IMO..the fact that KC did not report her child missing for 31 days (and then only because her Mom ferreted her out of her hidey-hole) tells you everything you need to know. KC killed her and was hiding from it...stupid to the max...because there was NEVER any way she could get beyond that fact!! NEVER any way anyone, friends, family, lovers, who would not question what happened. NEVER!!
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Judge Finalizes Casey Anthony Case Schedule
Judge Says Hearing Will Not Be Private
POSTED: 5:03 pm EDT May 3, 2010
UPDATED: 11:31 pm EDT May 3, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Judge Belvin Perry finalized a schedule Monday shoehorning three critical hearings in the next eight days.
On Thursday morning, a hearing will be held to talk about how much taxpayer money Anthony should be budgeted to aid in her defense, now that she has been declared indigent.
On Friday, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Perry if the budget concerns will be discussed in private. Perry decided the budget hearing will be held in open court Thursday.
Perry said he he wanted to know how many hours the defense team's experts will require and if they are willing to abide by the fee schedule set by Florida's Justice Administrative Commission.
Next week, a series of important defense motions will be heard, including a hearing on the trial's location and another to discuss whether evidence can be introduced suggesting the man who discovered Caylee's remain, Roy Kronk, should have been investigated as a possible suspect.
Perry said he also plans to consider a series of defense motions challenging the death penalty.
WESH 2's Bob Kealing said, by next week, followers of the case should expect to know how much money it will cost taxpayers to defend Casey Anthony, where her trial will be held and whether the state can keep pursuing the ultimate punishment against her.
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Television stations tonight provided a schedule in the Casey Anthony saga.
WESH-Channel 2, via its 10 p.m. news on WKCF-Channel 18, quickly noted the three hearings coming up in Anthony’s murder case. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
Anchor Jim Payne listed the hearings: On Thursday, there’s a hearing on taxpayer money that Anthony will receive for her defense; on next Monday, there’s a hearing on a change of venue; and a week from Tuesday, Chief Judge Belvin Perry will consider a motion that challenges the death penalty in the case.
WFTV-Channel 9, on its 10 p.m. news on WRDQ-Channel 27, reminded viewers that a pretrial hearing will be held Tuesday afternoon in the defamation suit against Anthony. Zenaida Gonzalez is suing Anthony for defamation for linking her to the disappearance of Caylee.
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Judge Says Hearing Will Not Be Private
POSTED: 5:03 pm EDT May 3, 2010
UPDATED: 7:04 am EDT May 4, 2010
<snipped>
Judge Belvin Perry finalized a schedule Monday shoehorning three critical hearings in the next eight days.
On Thursday morning, a hearing will be held to talk about how much taxpayer money Anthony should be budgeted to aid in her defense, now that she has been declared indigent.
On Friday, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Perry if the budget concerns will be discussed in private. Perry decided the budget hearing will be held in open court Thursday.
Perry said he also plans to consider a series of defense motions challenging the death penalty.
Meanwhile, Anthony's civil case will be back in court Tuesday. A status hearing is scheduled for the defamation suit brought by the woman Anthony said was Caylee's nanny, Zenaida Gonzalez.
Video:Judge Seeks To Hold Anthony Trial In Orlando
http://www.wesh.com/video/23322836/index.html
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Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response. If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...??? They can't really do it without enlisting her help.
She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?
Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination. Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind. If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day. Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view. If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body? I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred. How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional? She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony. I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month. One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder. She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.
Thanks for the reply. got kicked out for a bit and then picked up the little gson from preschool.
I know all you said (so well) is the logical rebuttal but with this crew defending her and the latest go-round of privacy motions makes me so suspicious of what kind of malarky they're wanting to pull next. I think JP will tire quickly of their redundant motions, so we'll see.
To attempt to paint her in any kind of frail, wounded light will fail and for that to happen I really think she'd need to testify and I just don't see that happening.
It would be on the order of the
Menedez brothers
type of shocker defense which failed them and I don't think they were half the evil she is.
For what its worth, I've never wavered whatsoever in confidence that no matter what this defense attempts, it will fail. It begins with Casey not reporting her child missing for 31 days & ends with all her lies. Well, a ton in between but everyone gets my point. For example, the jury might ask "Why didnt she care what happened to her car? She made no effort to find it & had to have known it wasnt where she left it." OR "Why did she make up so many stories, if she doesnt remember what happened? If she was innocent but didnt remember, she wouldnt have offered any elaborate stories, right?"
IMO..the fact that KC did not report her child missing for 31 days (and then only because her Mom ferreted her out of her hidey-hole) tells you everything you need to know. KC killed her and was hiding from it...stupid to the max...because there was NEVER any way she could get beyond that fact!! NEVER any way anyone, friends, family, lovers, who would not question what happened. NEVER!!
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Quote from: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 07:38:57 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23437124/detail.html
Judge Says Hearing Will Not Be Private
POSTED: 5:03 pm EDT May 3, 2010
UPDATED: 7:04 am EDT May 4, 2010
<snipped>
Judge Belvin Perry finalized a schedule Monday shoehorning three critical hearings in the next eight days.
On Thursday morning, a hearing will be held to talk about how much taxpayer money Anthony should be budgeted to aid in her defense, now that she has been declared indigent.
On Friday, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Perry if the budget concerns will be discussed in private. Perry decided the budget hearing will be held in open court Thursday.
Perry said he also plans to consider a series of defense motions challenging the death penalty.
Meanwhile, Anthony's civil case will be back in court Tuesday. A status hearing is scheduled for the defamation suit brought by the woman Anthony said was Caylee's nanny, Zenaida Gonzalez.
Video:Judge Seeks To Hold Anthony Trial In Orlando
http://www.wesh.com/video/23322836/index.html
Thanks Trim. I like the bolded part best. The hearing will not be private!
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