Natalee Case Discussion #839 6/14/10 - 6/17/10

[Shan1628]

Hi Janet-

In response to your questions I answered in italic:


- Do Peruvian authorities get it?  Does the family of Stephany get it? I would reference Stephany's sister's comment to Greta last night regarding how if Aruba actually used video footage this might have ended with only losing Natalee (she implied this)...but yes I do think both "get it".

Do they comprhend that a corruption Aruban investigation has had an agenda since May 30, 2005 to prevent justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway? I think Mr Flores is a very bright man as are his sons, they are also likely smart enough to not play their entire hand on global TV

Do they comprehend that affording Aruban investigators the hard drive to that laptop can not be considered furthering the cause of justice for Natalee Holloway? I really do not feel Aruba will get the hard drive and likely not even a copy, but they might get hard copies of documents or emails or internet history.......

Thanks for your response None.  It was appreciated.

Waiting to see how all this plays out in where it is at.  Patience is not one of my strengths.  Trusting God with the outcome of a situation when I can do absolutely nothing is so difficult for me.

I am off for the evening.

Good Night All

Janet
5:15 PM PT

Janet, I thank you for your insight today!  You have clarified a lot of confusing information for me.  Have a great night. 

[darleenofalabama]

Good night, Tamikosmom.  I'm going to sign out for now, too.  See y'all later.

[carpe noctem]

Anna  - 

I've been thinking of you all day as I've been listening to HLN - they all say "Jinkasaurus".

Me too! lol  That was an Anna original.

...and it is exactly the way Nancy says it.

[klaasend]

Dear God, Kermit; nevermind the skirt--that fabric is her blouse.

Kyle photoshopped that to show as an example how it could have been Natalee's body.  That is not really what it looked like it is Kyle's rendition.

[klaasend]

Nite Janet and Darleen

[klaasend]

Posted by Resigned at RU: 

resigned wrote:


Back to Joran van der Sloot - He killed a Peruvian woman in Peru - he should stand trial and serve his sentence in Peru. That's the breaks. Don't kill people when you go into a foreign country and you won't be in that position.

When he his hands around Stephany's throat while she was still breathing did he think ---oh shit - this will be a real inconvenience to my mother if she has to come and visit me in Peru? Nope.

Anita should look at the bright side, for the first time in 5 years she'll at least be able to know where Joran is at night and if he gets in anymore trouble - he's in the right place.

[Kermit]

Monken, I have certainly noticed that Dave is a perfect gentleman!  While, I don't think that Robin told anyone to stalk him, I have heard (and seen her own posts that seem to substantiate) that she if friendly with people known to be at the very least involved in the spin against Beth as well as the spin to try to support the Aruban government's cover-up, and blockages of any progress toward justice for Natalee; these same people are also defenders of that multiple murderer and his father.  Therefore, they appear to be on the side of the government's actions to hide information and prevent justice for Natalee--as it certainly seems that stalker is doing.  No one on the side of justice for Natalee should be even remotely, or indirectly, friendly with such people--even at the social media level.

WOW that was very diplomatic and well said darleen.

[nonesuche]

Posted by Resigned at RU: 

resigned wrote:


Back to Joran van der Sloot - He killed a Peruvian woman in Peru - he should stand trial and serve his sentence in Peru. That's the breaks. Don't kill people when you go into a foreign country and you won't be in that position.

When he his hands around Stephany's throat while she was still breathing did he think ---oh shit - this will be a real inconvenience to my mother if she has to come and visit me in Peru? Nope.

Anita should look at the bright side, for the first time in 5 years she'll at least be able to know where Joran is at night and if he gets in anymore trouble - he's in the right place.

LOL the advice for Anita is a classic !

[MsVada]

I guess I am one that is on the fence about the crab trap and natalee being in it.....Granted the colors match in the picture posted but I am not convinced that the clothing would  have deteriorated in salt water so much.  I have a friend who dives locally and can remember him pulling up an entire leather wallet and denim jacket that had been in for years.  He found the license of the owner and called,  turns out that the jacket was lost off a fishing boat more than 6 years before.  shortly after removing from the salt water, they deteriorated.  Bones would have been found, am I missing something?


I did see a pic a lil while ago from some people who were diving and thought they discovered remains,  I think they were dismissed as anything substantial.

[MsVada]

Dear God, Kermit; nevermind the skirt--that fabric is her blouse.

Kyle photoshopped that to show as an example how it could have been Natalee's body.  That is not really what it looked like it is Kyle's rendition.

Oh, I thought it was an actual pic....my bad.

[klaasend]

Dear God, Kermit; nevermind the skirt--that fabric is her blouse.

Kyle photoshopped that to show as an example how it could have been Natalee's body.  That is not really what it looked like it is Kyle's rendition.

Oh, I thought it was an actual pic....my bad.

JUST TO CLARIFY:

THIS IS REAL - NOT PHOTOSHOPPED




THIS IS PHOTOSHOPPED BY KYLE

[nonesuche]

Rest well Janet ! Darleen don't forget to polish your tiara!

Enrique Flores is on NG speaking right now.......

[Mon Quixote]

ZOMG - it took me freakin forever to get back in!!!  Couldn't remember the user name, then forgot the password and ugh, so frustrated.  But the point is I'm back and more than ever, so very grateful for all of y'all!!!!

I found SM when Caylee went missing and have found you guys to be the most amazing ppl here on earth.  I know if somehting happened to me (or my babies) this is where I would go for help.  Now I find myself poring over teh Nat threads catching up and snorting at greta and NG since you guys scoop them all the time. 

I wanted to add that I can do Spanish and some Portuguese translations if you need it.  I am so very proud to be a monkey, even if I mostly lurk.  TY all for the work you do.

More than anything, I'm so gald JVDS is where he belongs.  Be it what it may, Karma, poetic justice, jail in Peru is so much better for him than jail in Aruba.  Character building shall we say.

(And Carpe, really, you should come with a warning label....) 

[nonesuche]

Enrique Flores stated he and his family do not care where the location is for Joran, they want justice and they do not want him on the streets in Peru, or Aruba, or the US.

Additionally, only until Peru's case against Joran is COMPLETE, will Peru allow Aruba to interview Joran.

AP is reporting Anita needs funds to get to Peru.....

[MsVada]

Thank you Klaas

I had not seen the original before now.  I can see the resemblance with what Kyle had photo shopped now.   Do we  know how large that trap is?  IIRC  it barely fit on the back of Koen's boat?

[Mon Quixote]

Anna  - 

I've been thinking of you all day as I've been listening to HLN - they all say "Jinkasaurus".

Me too! lol  That was an Anna original.

...and it is exactly the way Nancy says it.

When I first heard jinkasaurus, my first thought was, WTH kind of dinosaur is that?  I haven't seen it on Dinosaur Train..."

And for the record, Jinkasaurus' translations were all crap when I saw her the other day.  totally wrong context. 

[Blue Moon]

Enrique Flores stated he and his family do not care where the location is for Joran, they want justice and they do not want him on the streets in Peru, or Aruba, or the US.

Additionally, only until Peru's case against Joran is COMPLETE, will Peru allow Aruba to interview Joran.

AP is reporting Anita needs funds to get to Peru.....

What is it with these people.  Why doesn't she call Beth and "request" some money in exchange for the location of Natalee's remains?  These people are Soooooooooooooooooooo crude and make me sick to my stomach.

[San]

Nancy Grace said that Joran's claim that Stephany attacked Joran has been disproven by forensic evidence.

[San]

Enrique Flores stated he and his family do not care where the location is for Joran, they want justice and they do not want him on the streets in Peru, or Aruba, or the US.

Additionally, only until Peru's case against Joran is COMPLETE, will Peru allow Aruba to interview Joran.

AP is reporting Anita needs funds to get to Peru.....

Ain't that a crock.

[carpe noctem]

Anita could always go to that place Gary Coleman went to.

What was it? 250% interest or something.

Hi MQ!