Natalee Case Discussion #831 3/13/10 - 4/22/10

[texasmom]

::monkeywine::

Fix one for me, Sporter!!!!!

   Wasn't there a song...It's a headace tomorrow, or a heartache attack tonight? 

[MuffyBee]

  Thanks TxMom!  You grabbed that one just for me, didn't ya? 

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They tried doing that change the language months and months ago. Their pea brains think they can mask who they are.

Is this someone trying to impersonate ABBA?  Would that be Benny or Bjorn?  Maybe Bjron because of all his neat outfits?  "Waterloo..."

[SuzieQ]

This guy kind of lost me with the stuffed animals on the back of the couch.  The only other time I've seen a grown adult with stuffed animals on their couch was a picture of Destiny's place posted on the Idiots blog site, or whatever the name of it was...

bugs bunny?  really?      Sorry, guy.

I read this and am LMAO. The first thing that popped into my mind was OMG I need to get my great granddaughters bears off the back of my couch. It must be an old age thing.

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/17307/5/



Papiamentu translation:

tourist mericano is sospecha of owing to saca potret of one skelet under lama of aruba

thursday, 18 march 2010 - 17:56

patti muldowney of 62 anja of edad, one tourist mericano of rapho township, lancaster county, pennsylvania owing to come for fast cu one photograph cu the la saca during his dilaster vakantie at aruba. the tourist owing to declara at lancasteronline.com cu the is sospecha cu is deal of the curpa of natalee holloway. click read more for see the fotonan..... on the fotonan can look at the dicho photograph cual is sospecha of have one skelet under lama, y the casa d patti, john f. muldowney cual is stop cu the potret.

[klaasend]

I was wondering when 24ora and awe24 would pick up the story 

I still can't believe that Joran is in Aruba. 

[MuffyBee]

I was wondering when 24ora and awe24 would pick up the story 

I still can't believe that Joran is in Aruba. 

If I remember correctly, he may not want to go back to the Netherlands because they were chasing him down the street, and there is a lot of unrest right now in Bangkok, Thailand.    http://www1.voanews.com/policy/editorials/Protests-In-Thailand-88455632.html  So maybe Aruba is as good a hidey hole as any other place. 

[texasmom]

I was wondering when 24ora and awe24 would pick up the story 

I still can't believe that Joran is in Aruba.

24ora is the only one I've found it at so far.

I'll believe he's there when I see it.  I've been looking!  

[klaasend]

I was wondering when 24ora and awe24 would pick up the story 

I still can't believe that Joran is in Aruba. 

If I remember correctly, he may not want to go back to the Netherlands because they were chasing him down the street, and there is a lot of unrest right now in Bangkok, Thailand.    http://www1.voanews.com/policy/editorials/Protests-In-Thailand-88455632.html  So maybe Aruba is as good a hidey hole as any other place. 

Well that's true but I know there are many Arubans that aren't happy with Joran.  It's a small island and I would feel very uncomfortable if I were him. 

[texasmom]

I was wondering when 24ora and awe24 would pick up the story 

I still can't believe that Joran is in Aruba. 

If I remember correctly, he may not want to go back to the Netherlands because they were chasing him down the street, and there is a lot of unrest right now in Bangkok, Thailand.    http://www1.voanews.com/policy/editorials/Protests-In-Thailand-88455632.html  So maybe Aruba is as good a hidey hole as any other place. 

Seems to me there would be some "unrest" in Aruba IF he's there!  

[wreck]

I was wondering when 24ora and awe24 would pick up the story 

I still can't believe that Joran is in Aruba. 

If I remember correctly, he may not want to go back to the Netherlands because they were chasing him down the street, and there is a lot of unrest right now in Bangkok, Thailand.    http://www1.voanews.com/policy/editorials/Protests-In-Thailand-88455632.html  So maybe Aruba is as good a hidey hole as any other place. 

Seems to me there would be some "unrest" in Aruba IF he's there!  

Hell, they are probably trying to find a way to make him "King"!! 

[MuffyBee]

I was wondering when 24ora and awe24 would pick up the story 

I still can't believe that Joran is in Aruba. 

If I remember correctly, he may not want to go back to the Netherlands because they were chasing him down the street, and there is a lot of unrest right now in Bangkok, Thailand.    http://www1.voanews.com/policy/editorials/Protests-In-Thailand-88455632.html  So maybe Aruba is as good a hidey hole as any other place. 

Well that's true but I know there are many Arubans that aren't happy with Joran.  It's a small island and I would feel very uncomfortable if I were him. 

Maybe he enjoys a certain amount of notoriety.     I wonder if it just takes time for the fear  PVDS held over some (basically blackmail)to wear down.   It doesn't appear PVDS was popular.  It seems more he had stuff on people and he used it to his advantage to control the them.  I don't know who's left on the island or even in the Netherlands that want to go to bat for Joran any more.  He's been quite the liability for a long time now and  with no PVDS to run cover, maybe Joran's on borrowed time, but he won't admit it, even to himself.  He is a sociopath, after all.  JMHO

[klaasend]

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[Lifesong]

I was wondering when 24ora and awe24 would pick up the story 

I still can't believe that Joran is in Aruba. 

If I remember correctly, he may not want to go back to the Netherlands because they were chasing him down the street, and there is a lot of unrest right now in Bangkok, Thailand.    http://www1.voanews.com/policy/editorials/Protests-In-Thailand-88455632.html  So maybe Aruba is as good a hidey hole as any other place. 

Well that's true but I know there are many Arubans that aren't happy with Joran.  It's a small island and I would feel very uncomfortable if I were him. 

Maybe he enjoys a certain amount of notoriety.     I wonder if it just takes time for the fear  PVDS held over some (basically blackmail)to wear down.   It doesn't appear PVDS was popular.  It seems more he had stuff on people and he used it to his advantage to control the them.  I don't know who's left on the island or even in the Netherlands that want to go to bat for Joran any more.  He's been quite the liability for a long time now and  with no PVDS to run cover, maybe Joran's on borrowed time, but he won't admit it, even to himself.  He is a sociopath, after all.  JMHO

I don't know.  I'd sure like to think of Joran as unwelcome and uncomfortable on his 'home turf', but I'm just not sure that island has changed at all, let alone enough to disown Joran.  If it is still an accepted practice to drug and rape the tourist girls then I don't imagine anyone has much trouble with Joran being back in town.  He's probably drinking and playing poker in the casinos with Sebastian these days.  Wouldn't surprise me at all.   

[texasmom]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/p1m3UfVMA7o&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x402061&amp;color2=0x9461ca&amp;border=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/p1m3UfVMA7o&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x402061&amp;color2=0x9461ca&amp;border=1</a>

Thanks Klaas!   

[klaasend]

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Holloways-Dad-Speak-Out-About-Photo-88501717.html



Holloway's Dad: Speak Out About Photo
Pa. couple claims underwater snapshot shows skeleton that may be missing teen Natalee Holloway
By VINCE LATTANZIO
Updated 11:01 PM EDT, Thu, Mar 18, 2010

The father of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway has asked a Pennsylvania couple to share their assertions that an underwater photo may show the remains of his daughter.

Patti and John Muldowney were snorkeling off the coast of Aruba last October when they snapped a photo of what appears to be a human skeleton.

The alleged remains went unnoticed until months later when the Manheim, Pa. couple was looking over trip pictures with some friends.

"The first thing that my husband said was 'Maybe that could be Natalee Holloway,'" Patti Muldowney said.

The couple showed the photo to friends, doctors and their local law enforcement before passing it along to the feds in February.

They also sent a copy to the missing teen's parents. And Thursday evening Dan Holloway called the Lancaster County couple to discuss what they had found.

"He's all in favor of it because it keeps the investigation going," John said after the conversation.

The couple also spoke to the man who wrote a novel about Holloway's 2005 disappearance.

"He called and said 'John, you may have the final chapter of the biggest crime of the century," John explained.

Beth Twitty, Holloway's mother, is also aware of the photo, but chose not to comment, her attorney told NBC Philadelphia Thursday.

Holloway was visiting the island nation in the summer of 2005 during a class trip when she disappeared. Much speculation has surrounded three men she was last seen with -- Joran van der Sloot, the son of a Dutch diplomat, and Deepak and Satish Kalope.

Van der Sloot has long been suspected in the girl's disappearance. He's made several confessions to media outlets, been arrested twice and both times released due to a lack of evidence.

The FBI will be visiting the Mundowneys in the next few days to further investigate the photo and discuss the couple's claims, agents confirmed Thursday.

While some feel the photo may just be a bunch of rocks, the elderly grandparents are sure of what they see.

"This body is laying on its back," John said as he traced over the picture with his finger.

The couple hopes, if the alleged body turns out to be Holloways', that it will bring some closure to her torn family.

"We know how those parents must feel," Patti said. "If there's any way we can help bring closure to this family, it would make us feel so wonderful."

[Keepthefaith]

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH
 

[Keepthefaith]

texasmom, Keepthefaith, Icehawk, billb, Edward, Chata and 10 Guests

Now that's an interesting combination!

[Edward]

The FBI will be visiting the Mundowneys in the next few days ??
For what ? Tea and crumpets.. ? The F.B.I. can't even find the photo sent to them.

Get to Aruba and find this pile of rocks !!

5 years..There is No way this skull could exist in that salt water .. Bones would be powder long ago.
I had various marine scientists suggest that years ago.. We only had months to find her and after that her bones would be powder.

Just another false lead in my opinion..

BUT ...F.B.I. Go Prove It !!

 

[Edward]

texasmom, Keepthefaith, Icehawk, billb, Edward, Chata and 10 Guests

Now that's an interesting combination!

I might be late to arrive but you knew I would.. 

[billb's daughter]

I was wondering when 24ora and awe24 would pick up the story 

I still can't believe that Joran is in Aruba. 

If I remember correctly, he may not want to go back to the Netherlands because they were chasing him down the street, and there is a lot of unrest right now in Bangkok, Thailand.    http://www1.voanews.com/policy/editorials/Protests-In-Thailand-88455632.html  So maybe Aruba is as good a hidey hole as any other place. 

Well that's true but I know there are many Arubans that aren't happy with Joran.  It's a small island and I would feel very uncomfortable if I were him. 

Not to disagree Klaas...
but over the last 5 yrs we know the makeup of arubans.......while there may be many good arubans....the bad arubans dictate what goes on on aruba....urine feels safer there now than anywhere else....(he feels entitled) and the good arubans will lay low as we saw when they didn't rally against the injustice perpetrated on Natalee, Beth, Dave, and family/friends......
The underground protects urine's back for now.....and I don't think that will change.....
There will never be any justice out of aruba........
And...Like Robots .......I HATE THEM ALL.....